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the Coolermaster each 500 p case features two huge and distinctive 200 millimeter RGB fans up front a tinted tempered glass side panel window and a vertical GPU mount with room for 360 rads on the top and front a tasteful PSU shroud and helpful cable management covers in the back the H 500 P will make your next build both easy and sexy just like me click the link in the description for more excellent hey guys welcome back to Pauls hardware today's video is my follow-up to my entry-level thread Ripper build this system all put together with current pricing costs about one thousand eight hundred and fifty dollars so I know that's expensive for entry-level but we're talking about thread Ripper here we're talking about a high-end desktop computer and the CPU at the heart of the system is the AMD thread Ripper 1900 X which is an 8 core 16 thread processor and it is the cheapest CPU that you can purchase to get yourself into this platform and my advice to people who are looking to build something like this is consider that CPU is an entry-level point and then possibly upgrading to the 12 core 1920 X or the 16 core 1950 X and who knows maybe AMD will release even higher core count CPUs on this platform in the future we're not really sure I know nothing about that by the way I'm just speculating but first off a quick rundown of the parts that's installed and then I'm going to go through the setup process and we're gonna do some testing on the system to give you guys a better idea of the performance now first off I have swapped two parts out of this from the build that was published last week and that's linked in the description if you guys want to check it out first thing is gonna be our graphics card I originally installed an NVIDIA founder's edition gtx 1070 TI and that has been swapped for the zotac mini version of the 1070 TI it's basically the same design as their gtx 1070 mini from ZOTAC a2 fan design and a fairly short overall design the PCB is only about 7 inches long and the entire card is only about 8 and a half inches long so that actually gives us a little bit more breathing room towards the front of the system where the CPU cooler is and I swapped that out last night and actually the zotac logo lights up in white which max matches a little bit better with the whites logo lighting up on our CPU coolers CPU cooler is the inner max liqui Macs bread Ripper Edition the 240 millimeter version of that's substantial 240 millimeter aloma aluminum all in one liquid cooler in the Front's some very nice clean-looking tubing on there as well and that is already keeping the CPU very cool although we're gonna test that a little bit further in just a moment here our motherboard is the asrock x3 99 Tai Chi which at 338 dollars is again still entry-level when it comes to thread Ripper the motherboards tend to be fairly expensive although it is a very very nice motherboard from the testing I've done so far it's got all the stuff you'd want it like a debug LED surface mount and power and reset buttons eight ddr4 dimm slots for lots of memory and even a little bit of our GB LED on there although it is subtle it's just lighting up blue right now and I haven't installed the software yet to play with that the memory is a g.skill kits and what I actually installed in here and the build originally was a 32 gig kit this is actually back to a 16 gig kit g.skill 16 gigs 4x4 dr 4 it is ddr4 3200 speed and actually that is one of the things that i have not set up I've set up most of the stuff on the system yet but the memory is still at 2133 so I need to go and set that up beyond that the rest of the hardware is registering in the operating system so of course we got our 2900 X here X 299 Taichi motherboard there is our memory the graphics card showing up here as well and if you're looking at the actual speeds here for the 1070 TI they are locked as far as the speeds from the manufacturer you can overclock this if you want to yourself I'm rerunning it at the stock speeds today just to show you guys what you get coming out of the box with this but it's got a base clock of 1607 and a boost at 1683 we'll see how much higher it gets beyond that for storage for keeping things pretty simple from the echo again as an entry level system my recommendation is to find yourself a 250 gigabytes or there abouts SSD for this particular build I'm using a Kingston HyperX fury SSD and that is going to get the job done it's a SATA SSD and that gives us tons more expandability options for both adding drives as well as utilizing the nvme and dot two slots that are available on this motherboard since one of the main reasons why you might consider thread Ripper is taking advantage of all those PCI Express gen3 lanes against this is entry-level we're not really doing that I don't have a bunch of nvme drives that are gonna be plugged in but expandability future upgrade options are all there of course it's a test today I have also connected up an SSD just externally so I can load games off of it and that's just connected via USB 3.0 our power supply is a Corsair RM 850 I if you look at the description and the parts list for the system I've recommended a 750 watt power supply this is just one that I have and is functional and able to be used and put in the system because the system is actually going to be a setup for a charity auction giveaway the Cal and I are going to be running towards the beginning of December still more details forthcoming on that but we've decided we're probably gonna be doing the everyone does a small donation amounts and then we pick a winner from all the people who have done donations so this system could be yours in the future who knows and finally of course the case the fractal mesh if I see chosen not just because it looks pretty sexy but also because it's got a nice big tempered glass side panel window so you can look inside at your finished build and lots of airflow since this is a system that could potentially have lots of hardware integrated into it on top of what's already there and I have plenty of airflow to keep things cool now speaking of airflow that was actually one of the first things that I needed to do with this system well technically the first thing was updating the BIOS I did that when on the x3 ninety-ninth XG motherboard first off because the BIOS that shipped with was a very earlier vision in fact the revision I had wasn't even available for download on their website but I've updated now to version 1.7 that is the version that has support for nvme raid on this platform as well which is a really nice other nice feature of the thread Ripper platform you can take multiple devices that are nvme connected raid them up and even make them bootable and haven't gotten into testing that either yet hopefully I will soon but the trade-off there is that I have a really nice CPU cooler here from inter max and that has already been keeping the CPU temperature super chilly and hardware info 64 you can see the actual temperature and then you can see the offset temperature as well so I haven't run a load test on this but we're going to do that in just a second but we can already see we're idling down in the 28 to 29 degrees Celsius range and dishing alright I don't know if you guys can tell but I've changed some things here basically I was getting the memory set up and I had everything configured and all I had to do was go into the UEFI and actually set the XMP settings for my memory which I had switched over to this Ripjaws 5 kit from g.skill all the memory of using in the testing today is from g.skill but not all memory is made the same and since risin likes faster memory I recommend typically trying to hit that 29:33 memory divider if you can't get up to 3200 but that will get you better performance single-threaded performance better gaming performance out of Rison processors both on the mainstream side as well as talking about 300 per year so when I discovered that this kit was amongst the memory could sit ahead I was excited because it's the speed is 3200 ddr4 3200 castle NC 16 pretty tight timings not not the tightest but pretty good however could just could not get it to post at all trying to run it the XMP settings 3200 a little quirk to the UEFI here from asrock you actually have to go in and tell it to use XMP settings and then you can go and and change the actual memory speed if you want it so I tried the 3200 that's where I tried that weird 3066 or whatever it is tried 29:33 tribe loosening the timings up nothing was working couldn't get it to post so decided to switch over to this kit try to Z kit also from g.skill with the super-tight 3200 speed cast latency 14 timings that the kid I have in there right now is using this one won't work either there's quirks there's different types of memory there's different types of modules that they actually stick on the memory there's dual rank and single rank depending on whether you have a memory in just one side a memory on both sides all these things can affect compatibility with Rison platform so all this is to say I have been spoiled so far because most of the memory I've tried with Rison has been pretty successful for me but if you run into this issue the solution is going to be the motherboards manufacturers website go over to the support page for your particular motherboard check the memory qvl lists these are basically memory kits that asrock has tested themselves and verified to work that's the faster speeds you'll see single channel dual channel and quad channel whether or not it's verified it looks like they put different notes for these and here you have a data of X your Corsair crucial G skill so I for example just did a quick search for the specific memory kits that I attempted to use them it's not on this list at all so and that's probably an indication that it hasn't been tested and probably wouldn't expect it to work so anyway just double check this list if you want to make sure that the memory kit that you get works with the motherboard and then the configuration that you're using and you'll have a much better time just going in there and plucks it plugging in X and P values and not having to go through troubleshooting and everything long story short I have now installed the g.skill Triton C RGB kits that I have used with lots of different writers and tests and different thread Ripper tests and I know it works and lo and behold I installed it set the XMP 3200 cast latency 14 and it works it needed a boot twice and out works um so yeah but let's move on from there and do some audio testing first off I did notice that everything was pretty loud when I first set this system up so I had to go into the UEFI and go into the fan test it's thin over the fan tuning function and as rocky UEFI and that allowed me to just default set all of the fans connected to silent mode and that has quieted things down greatly although it does still of course ramped up with a CPU temperature increases but here's a quick sound test at idle that's not the quietest but it's not too bad at all now let's try a burn test I'm going to run unit in heaven 4.0 as well as the i-264 burn test at the same time and let it run in about 15 minutes and then let's see what it sounds like so as you can probably tell from that sound test the Mesha fee allows lots of area to flow through it also lets out a pretty decent amount of noise and of course we're doing a full system burn test right now and running in heaven 4.0 as well as the ida 60 for system stability tests so this is about the max that you could reasonably expect as far as a load on the CPU and the GPU at the exact same time all that said it's been going for a little over 15 minutes now and fortunately the cpu clock speeds have been been pretty consistent we're hitting at about 3.8 to 3.9 gigahertz across all of the cores all eight of them so that's pretty nice in fact I feel like you couldn't do much better manually overclocking this CPU compared to what it is right now but of course there're four CPUs do get binned dies they get the best rise and dies that goes into thread rivers so we should expect pretty o'clock speeds and performance from them now again that offset is showing us the CPU temperature of 94 degrees with a max of one oh one point six but again that's 27 degrees hotter than it actually is the actual max temperature for the CPU was seventy four point six during this test and we're actually hitting more rounds the high 60s is what it's actually settling in at now I'd of 64 showing the temperature slowly climbing and that is again because we're using an all-in-one liquid CPU cooler and the liquid will slowly get warmer and warmer over time it can take a half an hour to an hour to actually hit the max temperature but chances are we're not gonna get more than a couple of degrees warmer than we currently are right now and here we can see that our ZOTAC 1070 TI mini doing a fine job especially given that there's a lot of heat going on in the system right now from the CPU and the GPU at the same time again I have not done any overclocking of this card and it's sitting about 1911 megahertz max frequency although it's typically sitting more at the 1825 to 1850 megahertz range right in there so not bad at all considering that we have an overclock that's running at the stock frequencies and I would imagine you could probably push this up another hundred megahertz or so with a bit of manual overclocking temperatures as well are perfectly reasonable 75 degrees is what it's sitting at right now it only topped out at 76 so again for a smaller size card with a smaller size cooler and two fans on there I think this is actually a great combination for this particular system so next up let's do some actual testing I've run a few CPU benchmarks and a few gaming benchmarks just to give you guys a better idea of how the system will perform I just want to point out that I have not tested the CPU at all ever before and I've not tested this GPU the 1070 Ti at all ever before so I don't have a whole lot of comparison numbers because I don't think that would be fair to do a direct comparison although I do have some stuff for the CPU to show what it's up against but let's start out with cinnamon then we'll play a threaded test here and what I would expect to see from the eight core thread Ripper is basically an 1800 X level performance but a little bit faster because it is gonna be running at a slightly higher frequency mostly due to the fact that it's better been chipped and xfr and my experience with thread Ripper has led to higher peak clock speed and in fact running about 3.8 or 3.9 went under full load across all the cores and it's running at about four point one to four point I think at four point one six six was the max single core frequency that I saw which is pretty nice and in fact probably a faster single core speed than you can achieve if you're doing an all core overclock and trying to get to 4.0 or 4.1 which is doable but anyway I didn't want I didn't want this to be mainly about overclocking let's look at the numbers Cinebench is up first of course and I do have some comparison numbers for this 17:43 was our multi-threaded score that is just a little bit just a little over 100 points faster than there are seven 1800 X which hit 1644 single-threaded performance hit 167 and here if you're looking at some of the Intel comparisons of course they do have better single core performance however 167 is again a few points higher than our 1800 X which scored 160 for CPU mark our overall score was seventeen thousand nine hundred and thirteen a very respectable score and in fact faster than most of the mainstream stuff that I are pretty much all the mainstream stuff I've tested which makes sense fast in 1900 X and you really have to go up to something like the 1950 X or 1920 AK X on the AMD side or something like a 79 60 X or 79 80 X II on the Intel X into Z estat form and/or get higher than that single third performance stills holding strong at just over two thousand two thousand ninety six and that again just edges out the eighteen hundred X's score of two thousand eighty one next I threw some blender render tests edit starting with splash fishy cat remember these are time and seconds so a lower score is better here thirty two point nine seconds was a score for the 1900 X and again that's just a little bit faster than the eighteen hundred X's of thirty three point six seconds next to the BMW twenty seven render takes a little bit more time so two hundred and seventy eight seconds was the score for our 1900 X Y again beating out the eighteen hundred X and I won't point out here also beating out the i7 eighty seven hundred K next let's move into some gaming tests starting off with 3d mark firestrike ultra again not doing many comparisons here but I want to focus on the physics test on the CPU side twenty thousand for forty nine was the nineteen hundred X's score with a graphic score of 47 ten and an overall score of 48 24 my comparison numbers here bear in mind please we're using 1080 T is so the GPU score is definitely not comparable but the physics score may be is and at twenty thousand it did beat out all of these tests have run currently on the mainstream platform whether you're looking at Rison or intel's coffee liqueur qibla key moving along to rise of the Tomb Raider DirectX 12 test and I'm doing the geothermal valley test specifically for this one one hundred and ten point two frames per second was the average framerate at 1920 by 1080 with a minimum of seventy seven point nine and moving out to 1440 we had an average of seventy point one with a minimum of fifty eight point one and our final Test player unknowns battlegrounds at 1920 by 1080 we had an average frame rate of 81 fps zero point one percent low was 46 fps and at 2560 by 1440 average frame rate was just over 60 that's good that's a good number to be able to hit with d-10 70 TI 61 FPS on average and a 0.1% low of 40 point five so there you go guys some tests on my entry-level thread Ripper builds coming in at the low low price of about one thousand eight hundred and fifty dollars I'm pretty impressed with the system overall although of course it does come with a set of caveats like most due to some degree main issue for me at least testing this was of course the memory configuration getting fast memory to run with a risin or threader per processor is definitely the way to go however it can be quirky and this was probably my first experience encountering some actual difficulties getting some sticks of memory just to plug in and play nice at the rated speeds that the memory was set to so a definites encouragement for me that you guys to double check those memory qvl lists make sure that whatever kit you've gotten has been tested at the rated speed or a dive into some of the more advanced overclocking features there are several videos on that I still theoretically have one coming on that as well because there are some extra things that you can do with memory to try to eke out a little bit more performance or get it running at the proper speed for my solution it's not a very practical one for the actual intent of this build because the kid I put in there cost about twice as much if not more than twice as much as most of the 16 gig 4x4 kits that you can buy that are even that same rated speed but what I'm gonna do is get a kit that I can swap into here to go along with the giveaway that is rated at at least three thousand if not 3,200 so you will if you happen to end up with the system you'll be able to see the same speeds that I did in my testing today and for now you know we've got the g.skill RGB stuff in there so you know it's RGB I guess I couldn't escape RGB for this build no matter how much I tried other than that though the case of course nice good airflow temperatures were very reasonable throughout and I like the combination of the higher flow case as well as that enter max look max Red River did a specific cooler I thought the GPU did a great job as well very reasonable speeds very reasonable temperatures very reasonable noise as well I would say also generated from that so if you guys are interested in this build and maybe putting it together for yourself a list of all the parts is down in the description below so feel free to check that out if you have any feedback for me on my testing of this system or the build in general of course leave those comments in the comment section as well I think he has so much for watching this video I'll be back with more very soon so don't forget to subscribe to Paul's Hardware thanks for watching and we'll see you next time