Gadgetory

the Coolermaster each 500 p case features two huge and distinctive 200 millimeter RGB fans up front a tinted tempered glass side panel window and a vertical GPU mount with room for 360 rads on the top and front a tasteful PSU shroud and helpful cable management covers in the back the H 500 P will make your next build both easy and sexy just like me click the link in the description for more hey what's up guys and welcome back to Pauls hardware this is my monthly builds video it is November as you can maybe tell and today's monthly builds video is going to be a little bit different than my usual monthly builds video for one main thing I've actually already built my monthly build for this month that's right here that is a about a 1700 ish dollar all AMD build in the new NZ xdh 400 I and I just posted that video yesterday so check it out as well as checking out my builds playlist where you can find all of the builds I have done as for today I'm gonna be going over some parts lists so a quick glance at the parts list for this build and then I have two other parts lists that I have put together based on your feedback from last month so the question was what builds you want to see this month the answer by about 30% of you was the best gaming PC for 800 dollars now what I've done is I've made two gaming pcs that are $650 and about eleven hundred fifty dollars and I'm going to talk more theoretically about choosing the parts that go into a build the general price expectations that you should have and especially since it's about a week until Black Friday right now how you should sort of go and go about your thought process when you're choosing parts to put into a new system that you're building right now and also sort of a challenge because I'm gonna show you guys the prices I'm looking at and I have just last night and this morning put together builds that I think are kind of the best bang for your buck at different price points and let me know if you guys over the next week or so can find some Screaming deals with the Black Friday stuff going on and perhaps get these builds or equivalent of these builds for much less money I think that's very very possible so of course we're gonna start off with that NZXT h100 i built and then we have the 1151 $1,150 price points and then we also have the $650 price point and these are actually tied very closely together so first off the H 400 I build and this is already assembled I'm gonna be testing this this will run you about 1700 ish dollars depending on how you buy stuff and where you buy it it's got an r7 1700 CPU in it which is an 8 core 16 thread processor you can get for less than $300 285 on Amazon right the Rev of two of the NZXT crack in X 62 which is a 280 millimeter all-in-one liquid cooler the Rev 2 version does have support for the m4 sockets so you get a bracket in there that is compatible and that was definitely nice to have motherboard was only a seventy-five dollars and this is probably if anything the weak points in the build not that it's a bad motherboard or anything it's got a very nice set of features but it's only a $75 motherboard so when you're looking at an upgrade path you're probably not gonna have the greatest of power delivery on this motherboard although you do have to m dot two slots which is part of the reason why I chose it as well as four dimm slots for ddr4 2 m dot 2 slots is actually really hard to find down in the budget B 350 range but asrock has several motherboards that have that which I thought was nice my memory is a big challenge right now because it is very overpriced and I ended up going with a corsair dominator platinum kit for this build and that was because the memory that I had on hand actually wasn't working it wasn't compatible immediately upon installation so definitely a recommendation to double-check call the qvl lists the memory lists that motherboard manufacturers put out to double-check that the memory that you're purchasing will be compatible with the motherboard and processor that you choose you can also check AMD's lists for that as well because they have some lists available on their websites so I'm with the corsair dominator platinum there are cheaper 16 gig Kix kits out there but this one looks pretty nice and and I had it so there we go so shiva has a new series of SSDs their budget oriented that they're called a TR 200 so I had afford an 80 gig version of that that they sent over so I dropped that in there available 240 480 and 960 gig capacities and a 240 at least right now is gonna run you about $90 and I haven't found a price for the 480 but it should be roughly twice that moving over to the big-ticket item and the reason why I chose to do an all AMD build was because Vega 56 was actually selling for kind of close to the retail price so I actually set up a filter which you can use on PC part picker to just choose for instance a specific type of GPU and see what's available until 2 just choose the lowest price version gigabyte has one for $465 right now guys last week you could find a Vega 60 fifty six four four hundred and if not four hundred dollars a four hundred twenty dollars which is still 20 bucks more than the MSRP I do not recommend buying a Vega 56 at 460 470 dollars at 400 to 420 there's an argument to be made that it is powerful enough to be competitive with the gtx 1070 and even more so if you are planning to buy a freesync monitor at the same time because those pair well together but when you're looking at these expensive prices due to cryptocurrency mining it just doesn't it's not practical to buy that for gaming so for that reason the builds we're going to talk about next I have mainly chosen Nvidia cards because the AMD cards just can't seem to keep their prices down moving on though the NZXT th400 i new case from NZXT it's a micro ATX case and that's actually why I had a little bit of a difficult time finding a proper motherboard for this case but it's $150 definitely a premium a high-end case but it does have a very nice set of features and definitely check out that video if you want to see me assembling all this stuff in there coolermaster 650 watt 80 plus gold power supply about 95 bucks and then three NZXT err RGB fans 9zx eq+ LED controller and an NZXT internal USB hub rounding things out so is able to plug in all the fans and use the NZXT cam software to control my lighting and make it kind of fancy and do the marquee effects and stuff so we'll be following up with a test video on this system do some more lighting effects and of course see how the performance is since it is the first all AMD system I've built in quite some time let's move on to our next builds and these shouldn't hopefully be a little bit more practical and a little bit more helpful for you guys I want to address one thing right from the get-go and that is Intel Intel has launched coffee Lake just recently it's LGA 1151 but it uses newer chipsets z 370 is the chipset that's available on motherboards right now for it however those motherboards tend to be a little bit more expensive there are some budget options in there but the reason I'm not choosing any coffee like s CPUs or motherboards for these next couple builds that I'm going to show you guys is because of this here's the 8400 which is a 6 core 6 thread CPU and it's pretty fairly reasonably priced $199 just not there it's not in stock by it so y-you can't recommend the CPU you can't buy the 8600 k forces you to pay just the low low price of 100 extra dollars for the privilege of having your six core CPU unlocked so you can overclock it which i think is pretty absurd so I don't recommend that right now 300 bucks it's just a crazy market for that finally I have the 8700 case still selling for forty to fifty dollars more than what insult sold us the MSRP was and doesn't matter anyway because it's still a lot of stock so for that reason my next two bills are gonna be am beat AMD based AMD based because there's very viable entry-level quad core options for them there's very viable upgrade path on a m4 going from quad core with four threads all the way up to eight cores and 16 threads and AMD has promised that am four will be a main stream platform socket for in the next couple years at least we're looking at lifespan through 2020 so there's a fairly reasonable expectation that come the next year or so as AMD is working on Zen to stuff which is still in the rumor phase right now you might get a CPU in the future that could drop into this so all that said here is the $650 budget gaming PC we got the quad core we got a b3 15 motherboard for 85 bucks we got eight gigs of memory an SSD a GTX 1063 gig and then I reasonably priced case and power supply now I made a quick pie chart because pie charts are so fun just listing the various components here the seven main components CPU motherboard memory storage video card case and power supply the price of each one with the six hundred and fifty dollar builds and then the price of each one with the one thousand one hundred and fifty dollar builds so you can look relative to the other parts in the system how much is being spent on each component the video card in both systems is going to be the most expensive part at about a hundred and ninety dollars that's about twenty nine percent of the cost of the $650 builds CPU and cooler is next at a hundred dollars fifteen point two percent of the cost and then beyond that you're gonna have memory of course since memory is still pretty expensive sixteen point seven percent of the cost at one hundred and ten dollars after that you have motherboard with eighty-five dollarz 12.9% storage with $79 12% and then power supply and case both coming in about seven to seven and a half percent at forty five and fifty dollars each the system went to sleep over here so it got a little bit quieter alright looking at the eleven fifty dollar bill to break down here we can see the video card becomes a larger chunk at four hundred bucks 33.7% CPU cooler and CPU and cooler $195 16.4% s-- memory 14.3% storage eleven point eight motherboard eleven point Oh so again just just sort of keep in mind these general comparisons when it comes to how much percentage of the total cost of prism you might be spending on each part bear in mind it can fluctuate a bits when you're looking at different price points and especially if you're looking at kind of the bare entry-level $650 versus something a bit more full-featured at eleven fifty and I will go down the comparisons between these two builds as I get to the next one so our CPU for the 650 build is the risin 312 hundred and quad core is now budget two guys keep that in your heads now quad core is budget quad core hyper threading is clawing its way up out of budget six core is more mainstream but a quad core will fully get you by and it's really nice you can get a decent quad core from AMD on their current gen platform for $100 and you got to pair that with a motherboard of percept rosen and gigabytes a be 350 gaming three and also as I'm also showing you guys here a big way to get a little bit of extra bang for your buck in general and of course in the holiday season as well is mail and rebates I generally don't include include those in the overall cost of the system but this motherboard at 85 dollars also as a $15 mil and rebate from Newegg which means that you can get it for as cheap as $70 if you count mail and rebates of course the things I'm looking for in a be 350 motherboard are going to be four dimm slots so you have plenty of space for memory I'd like to see some kind of cooling going on on power delivery and I mean you can take a closer look at those power delivery phases yourself maybe in a review on the specific motherboard I'm not going to go into that now but good to have if you're planning on doing a bit of overclocking and then of course you want at least a few full-size PCI Express slots so you can have some expansion options down there and then beyond that you have at least one m2 slot and this gigabyte board they've positioned it right below the graphics card slot which isn't the best position but at least it is there for expansion beyond that you're usually going to have roughly the same configuration otherwise when it comes to SATA connectivity as well as IO on the back for memory my main yeah my main goal said it's just compatible it just works and is compatible so the Corsair Vengeance lpx kits the 3000 speed is very compatible with AMD this kit has worked in every single AMD testbed I've said it I plugged it into you can run it at the 29:33 divider easily just by setting the XMP settings and it is 10 or 20 bucks more than other comparable 8 gig 2 by 4 gig kits right now but paying a little bit more for the peace of mind compatibility is worth it when it comes to storage you're gonna want an SSD that's just I don't recommend getting a cheapo hard drive to install into you're putting your operating system on this windows probably Windows 10 3 4 min ago to the future is just kind of a pain in the butt so for entry-level 240 gig 250 gig is is the SSD that you're going to want to go for those will cost you about 79 to 80 dollars right now sorting by price in this capacity range they do start to ramp up pretty quickly but generally speaking a standard SATA SSD all of the new ones are relatively comparable to each other so double check a review of course this SanDisk SSD plus version as well as the SK Hynix that are both down here in the $80.00 range are both totally fine for you and the next of course you want that graphics card in this parametric filter I have actually included both three gig and 6 gig graphics cards so sorted by price you can get a GTX 1063 gig for a hundred and ninety dollars which is you know right about where it should be and then if you do want to jump up to six gig the cheapest is two hundred and sixty dollars so that is a good $70 in but you will get some benefit from the six gigs so if you're wanting to invest a little bit more money on this build I would say upgrading the graphics card would be a good place to start there is the GTX 1060 that I have chosen it's the small one but it is of course reasonably priced finally for case and power supply you should be able to get a very solid decently appointed case such as the cooler master master box five it's got a clear side panel windows so you can look in at your build it's got a painted black interior it's a solidly built case with good construction good cable management routing options you know there are some benefits and features that you don't get with a $50 case but this is what you should be looking for this is totally gonna get you by I've worked with this case and it's totally fine and again a $10 million rebate will get for 40 bucks which is pretty nice finally power supply 80 plus bronze is what you'd want and 550 watts you can get away with 500 I like getting a little bit more Headroom on my power supply but you should be able to get something like this from a reputable manufacturer like Corsair EVGA for about forty to forty five dollars and again man those mail-in rebates right now $20 mil rebates so anyway you can get this as cheap as 25 bucks right now and that's the rundown of my six hundred and fifty dollar budget gaming PC so just to reiterate what I'm going for here is the basic quad core from the AMD Rison platform I'm going for a be 350 motherboard with those specs I was looking for I'm going for an 8 gig 2x4 geek kit that I know is compatible its rise in with the speed of 3000 or better I'm going for a 240 or 250 gig SSD a GTX 1063 gig for as cheap as possible a $50 case with good appointments and features and you know take your pick of which one you think looks best and then a solid 80 plus bronze rated 550 watt power supply 658 72 if you get these from all the least expensive places and then again as I showed you guys lots of mail and rebates going on right now so take advantage of those if you want to jump you back to my comparison here and I want to point out so the differences in price so going from a hundred to two hundred dollars on the 1150 bills we're jumping from a quad-core with four threads to a six core 12 thread so we're tripling our number threads available for a little less than double the price and I'd say that's a nice jump up for the motherboard we're going full-size ATX and I've gone with the X 370 chipset you can still get away with a be 350 chipset motherboard for this build and you can save a little bit of money that way the X 370 chipsets motherboards though tend to be a little bit they intend to be built a little bit better with a little bit better power delivery so potentially better overclocking and maybe some better features more on that in just a second from memory I've jumped from 2 by 4 gigs to 2 by 8 gigs and it's not quite double in price about $60 more so you're getting more gigs per dollar if you can afford to go with the 2 by 8 gig kit for storage I'm going from 240 to 480 double the storage less than double the price for the video card we're going from a 1063 gig all the way up to a gtx 1070 full-fat 8 gig and that is a very nice upgrade and GPU performance case we're just increasing the price by about 30 bucks for a nicer case with some better features and the power supply again just jumping up by about 25 ish dollars to get ourselves an 80 plus gold rated unit so here is what those price increases have gotten us and total price listed here with all of the cheapest prices from PC park Pickers 1180 328 again big jump in CPU core processing performance going up to that 6 core and AMD is nice enough to give you simultaneous multi-threading on there 6 core Rison 5 processors so you get 6 cores and 12 threads for the low low price of just under $200 overclockable comes with a very decent CPU cooler in the box so I really like that for value there isin 5 1604 motherboard we have the x3 70 gaming X this is another asrock motherboard and I chose this one mainly because it's got a pretty decent sale going on for about a hundred and thirty dollars from super Beezus you can also get it for about that same price from Newaygo but that's using a mail-in rebates and this motherboard got some very positive reviews you can see from the reviews here on Newegg it's got some pretty a pretty decently upgraded power delivery configuration it's a 12 phase power delivery set granted the phases aren't everything this is definitely built a lot better than a lot of those be 350 boards I was looking for beyond that looking for the same specs four dimm slots of course nice to have a little bit RGB lighting not of course a key selling point but hey it's there and then here since we are upgrading the board and spending a bit more money we've got some other features such as a couple RGB headers on there but more functionally speaking to MDOT two slots on this board one down here one up here also X 370 will allow you to do two-way GPU configurations that's again not very practical but it is it is there now for the memory again just doubled the capacity so went from a 2 by 8 gig or two by four gig kit to 2 by 8 gigs so you can again get by with 2 by 4 gigs with this same build so the idea with me going with the 650 build in the 1150 build if I didn't make this clear enough was take anything from the 650 build and kind of swap in stuff from the more expensive build and you can kind of get yourself into the middle there with whatever parts you might think are more important to you than others but I did the cert by price here with the parametric filter again Corsair kits that are dee-dee-dee-dee are 3000 3200 and you can get you can save 15 or 20 bucks by going with the the blue kit and you know maybe just paint it or something like that it's the same memory inside it's just blue anyway that fit figure that out whether or not you care about aesthetics or not again the same parametric filter here for the SSD just I'm looking for 300 to 600 gig range rather than the down in the 250 gig range and here we can see the prices are much more reasonable with SSDs this capacity when you're comparing its of spending say 90 bucks on a 240 gig it's not that much to upgrade to this if you sort by price per gigabyte right over here you can actually see where you get the best deal so the W the Western Digital 500 gig SSD is a great deal right now for 140 bucks maybe consider that one and then of course video card we wanted a gtx 1070 we want the cheapest gtx 1070 you got a ZOTAC and a gigabyte both mini versions available down here and then maybe consider some of these other options if you want to spend a little bit more money if you want to a beefier cooler or something like that but don't spend too much more even the mini versions you can still overclock and there's not really a whole lot of variance between the max speed you can get case of course we gotta have a case in power spot I think 80 dollars is a good budget for a case in this range and for 80 bucks I think the fantex P 400 is a fine option again you got some RGB lighting options that are in there solid builds I got tempered glass USB 3.0 so a lot of those kind of blingy nice features and a case I've worked with and is super easy to build in a good case by fantex there's other $80 case options there too as long as they're full-size ATX then you know choose whatever one you think looks prettiest finally we are paying another $20 for a more premium power supply 80 plus gold rated rather than bronze means we'll have a little bit cheaper power bill with this power supply and 650 watt gives us a little bit more Headroom for upgrade options in the future whether you're talking about adding drives or adding I guess mainly adding drives or upgrading to possibly a more power hungry graphics card and those are my builds for November 2017 I hope you guys have learned a little bit about choosing the parts for your system because I know it can be a challenging process especially now that there's mainstream and enthusiasts on the Intel and AMD sides there's just so many choices around right now but guys if any of you use this as a template to build yourselves a new PC this holiday season I would love to hear about that in the comment section down below I don't have a feedback straw poll for this month because I think what I'm gonna do for next month towards the beginning of December is kind of do the same the same MO that I did right now give you guys sort of general guidelines for parting on a system but we'll do it after Black Friday rather than before anyway thank you guys so much for watching this video hit the thumbs up button if you did enjoy it and we'll see you guys next time