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this video is brought to you by the fractal design define r5 computer case featuring expansive radiator support and noise optimized engineering click the link in the description for more information you you hello everyone welcome to Paul's hardware this is the video you guys have been waiting for it asking for for so long jay is here how's it go Jay I'm doing good how are you I'm doing fantastic you didn't seem prepared for me to ask you a question I interviewed before it like it feels like an interview this iske so instead of diving right into the build and starting putting all this water cooling system together Jay and I we're just gonna have a conversation here for maybe 15-20 minutes just get you guys warmed up for it that sound it sound good I like being warmed up okay we're going to get straight to the build I won't mess around with you guys but I do need to start off by saying a slew of thank you so many many thank yous and the first one goes out to you that's right you guys watching this video right now there's no way that I or J could do any of the things that we do without you guys your support your likes your feedback comments everything that you guys do for us so thank you so much for all that support right absolutely even the dislikes those helped us out - I still like dislikes which is weird I also need to thank the sponsors for this bill for the hardware of course so so I'm going to go run right down the line Intel of course for the 59 60 X it's long I did swap that out we also have Asus for the X 99 deluxe motherboard that's in their gigabyte of course for the two gtx 980 with gaming g1 gaming windforce graphics cards that I'm using fractal who supplied the fractal design thousand watt Newton 80 + Platinum par spot as well as the define r5 case as well as the Kelvin closed-loop CPU cooler that I've been using temporarily we're going to be swapping that out but it's still done a great job up till this point GCL a huge huge thank you to G scale for providing the 32 gigabytes 4 by 8 gigabytes ddr4 memory kit that's from the Ripjaws 4 series and then of course Samsung for providing not only the 850 Evo that's in there right now that the operating system is loaded on but Samsung's also sending me over a couple more 850 pros and I'm going to do another video on that after everything's set up to talk about rate yeah raid and how I do video editing and how I copy footage and all that good stuff and then of course I can't go without thinking of the suppliers of the water cooling parts so we have ek of course who have provided lots of stuff I did an unboxing of all these parts so you can check it out for the radiators pump and reservoir CPU block GPU block as well as all the furious Vardar fans which are quite angry at me they're very furious also a terminal and then primo chill who has provided all of the fittings as well as the rigid ptg tubing and then of course a huge thank you to je once again for being here not only on his day off but also on a day when he could be benchmarking a gtx titan x who says I have a Titan X I hate the time okay one last thing to say before we jump in here and that is that while we are doing all the hard line tubing and everything today this is not going to be the final video on this build not quite I will point out that I'm still going to be doing some sleeping on the power supply and then I'm also going to be doing a side panel mod but that's coming in the future because we just we want to get the wire clean stuff soon you're going to be sleeping the power supply yeah the pump because the pump needs to be sleeved top needs leading and so does that yeah when we need to get rid of the red here on the the Furious bars but yeah that'll be another project coming up we've talked enough let's let's build J let's do it all right the other thing the other thing we didn't mention to you guys is that it's 90 degrees outside today of course but that's that's why I'm a water cooling right and it's so freakin cold in the Northeast yeah there's snow everywhere but that's okay alright so we have taken a dive or JS actually been mainly taking a dive into the graphics cards themselves now these cards actually have kind of a different means of disassembly J then then some you have experience so what is what's the magical juju for getting the GeForce GTX 980 g1 gaming graphics cards and often times you'll just have all the screws on the back of the plate and it just comes apart like a clamshell but as you can see here these screws are all underneath the cooler these three or not these four on the GPU or not so let's put scratching you think of it okay um we're not using those anymore so I just kinda want to show the the procedure for taking it apart on a wind force card since you know people have started water cooling these things so you start with a three back here next to the g1 gaming logo and they're they're pretty tight uh she said hey and then you do the four around the GPU here these are spring-loaded screws so make sure you keep some tension on that when you unscrew them where they could go flying across the room that's all that's always the fun of disassembling a graphics card is hunting down the screws they've gone absolutely well so they said that was all scratched up looks like that our time assembling it easy so this is the part two where people have been confused like it's still not coming apart the amount of thermal paste and the heat pads that they use on these they act like glue so I mean I'm putting a lot of tension on that it's not coming apart so you want to kind of start towards the front there you go you can just wiggle it apart this one came apart easier than the other one the other one I thought I had missed the screw this must have been the upper card and still it's some residual warmth leftover from when I was benchmarking last night right there you go but as you can see stuff two cables in there you have one for the fan control one for the LED control don't yank this apart you want to be mindful of that cable that way you can salvage it because you never know if you're gonna need to put this card back together for warranty or upgrade or whatever now once you do that you take the main cooler off then you can get access to the silver screws which will allow the backplate to come off and then when you're done just kind of screw everything back together and then you'll end up with the cooler like this just reassemble so you don't lose your screws and stick it back in your GPU boxes and we're going to we're gonna list that on eBay as a new gtx 980 see ya there you go the new stealth edition just be very creative on the angles which you shoot it at no PCI Express connector required remote remote mounting the next step is going to be removing that back plate of course and then we're going to do some cleaning to get the GPU all cleaned off Jay has already lifted off some of the thermal pads but these are thermal pads we have replacement thermal pads here for the MOSFETs so we don't need to keep this stuff we're just going to toss that and the next step we're gonna be installing them blocks yep sweep yeah I mean they even show right here I wish I could get it that nice like I mean you could never ever get such a thin yeah that is pretty pretty pristine there so NJ's ugly little because it could I mean look how big the nozzle is on this thing it's impossible there so we we know from doing YouTube for a while that there's no right way to do thermal paste no matter which way you do and say hey here's how you should do thermal paste people say it's wrong so Jay is using the X pattern which I haven't seen actually since CAG did it back when we did our wow that was so long ago but that is recommended by ek and Jay and I can't even put as many lines as they recommend because it would just be way too much they want like a stars yeah like that but when I get X in and across but the the Eco therm that they send with it it's a non-conductive so it's not going to matter that it gets over here you know on the conductors and crap so this is the way I've done it in every single water block I've ever done and thermals have always been perfect across the board so that that's the way I do it but you guys could technically do the P method on this but anytime I've ever done the P method it doesn't spread all the way to the corners and believe it or not getting out getting full coverage on a GPU diet it's not like a CPU where it's just in the center this is the die so because most CPUs have us have a heat spreader on it throw a die is much smaller than the spread over here we actually want full 100% coverage over that entire day because this is the die this is not a heat spreader so everything from edge to edge under there is the architecture so you one at full coverage and you do want it to run over the sides a little bit so you're covering the entire thing okay it actually matters and we are now ready to connect the block to the GPU this is the moment of great portent and there it is well that was anticlimactic no now you got to flip it over and get all it all tight now that's why I use the box like this because this way two sticks out you'll never get it flat you put on the table it falls off and I so I always go like this and then of course this is why you need to purchase the ek back plates because they will line up properly with the ek blocks right and that is what will be next just some screws to screw in yep ok so there's always that common debate back plates do they do anything on air cooled cards not as much most of them don't even contact anything on the back but II can know is that the back of the BC PCB gets just as hot as the front because everything that connects to it it has flux that goes through and as you can see we do have active capacitors back here in the BRM componentry is on the back of the card as well this is also the back of the GPU these are the conductors right here specifically for the GPU so these get freaking hot as well so ek actually as you can see here with their back plates they have special cutouts that that's going to touch anything on the back plate that gets hot as thermal pads are going to mount on there so when you tighten this down this becomes a heat spreader it's a back plate but it's also a heat spreader so any active cooling you have in your case good case flow it's going to help cool the back of the PCB on these cards so so I put that out there when you want to cool at least with the ek blocks they are going to make in contact which means you do need to put the thermal pads there too you don't want to just say a screw it and crank it down because you then could create a short on the backyard net that'll lead to a very terrible day that's me how I know that I don't know though J like I only bought the back plate for the aesthetics so I don't really want the heat dissipation all right we'll go ahead make the thermal pads off all right GPU blocks are installed and good to go both of them side by side of course we need to still install the connector between those meanwhile inside the case here I've gone ahead and installed our 360 rad up at the top we're getting the fans installed on that - here's the two fittings so our hard line is going to need to be up in this area going down into this area we've also got the front radiator installed right up here fittings are the connectors up at the top which Jay has recommended is the best option to keep your portal and the future if you're just joining us J was just explaining to me how he is trying his best to get a handle on the nut down there so we have come to the point in the build where we are we may or may not be at a stopping point the stopping point for us is mounting that pump /r add the ekx res 140 which as you can maybe tell now that a lot more of the parts are in here there's not a ton of space for so the plan was to put it up on top of the drive cage right here however the mount for the bracket leaves a lot of space down underneath as you can see right where the pump sort of extends yeah so this this little section of the pump down there and you're not supposed to set that directly on anything because you might get some vibration so what we're going to try to do right now and we'll see if it works is I have a metal 120 millimeter fan bracket that we're going to mount right here and then hopefully mount the bracket for the pump out right here and set it in there so J is setting that up yeah and we're going to give it a moment of truth test here in just a moment and see if that will actually work for us that could work yeah I mean this is a metal bracket and then there's four points where it will mount and then still a decent amount of clearance on that Reds on all sides and more than enough room for acrylic fittings on the top beautiful okay I got the CPU block here so let's up it precariously right there this is a mounting hardware and this is our thermal paste we have instructions here I'm gonna ignore oh oh I read the instructions all right so it's an optimal insert that that's what the plastic piece is I've never done so it comes with two right this is the two version and I'm guessing the one that comes pre-installed with yeah this is the - I - it says right there and I - should be used for AMD or LG they 2011 - three well I guess you better install it should I I've never I didn't do it in skunk works and I'm still sitting like high 50s low 60s under low should I I'm gonna go with J then I'm gonna choose it's J telling me for one and it's the easy route it's the easy route and I said I've never done it but I've never experienced any negative okay now do you ever like this right I mean if you want to open it for the sake of seeing when it's like it's just four screws in an overhang yeah we'll do that we'll do another video in the future I'll have clean the shame is their pity UK definitely has some pretty liquid stuff okay so that's gonna go right there and we're done it's a lure crooked so okay straighten it out there you go cap things here and some washers and I got two sets of these which is probably what I will need this Forge to tell the difference between them so love em is locked alright we got the block here that's that's how that's supposed no it's not put the springs on too quick I love when it has some let's eat I like I like blocks whether you're talking about a custom block for water cooling loop or a they're all in one cooler or heck a an air cooler for that matter I love blocks to give you the rails that mop that up right at the beginning it makes it easy to drop it on it's centered the thermal paste is going to spread really well nice and evenly and then it's just there it's not sliding around it's being held in place that's please I got some your tension Springs and then these little caps maybe the caps are pretty they are attention to detail it's nice clean finish there's a lot of companies out there that make a really pretty block and then have really ugly hardware Hey hardware's just visibles block it's still important I'm doing four corners method here you never never look at that never look at it while you're tightening it down though that look so the fact that you're cracking the block doesn't matter how far do you go down in this please stop no threated okay they'll stop when there's when you're tightening it that's sometime soon but then you freaked me out good luck well hey GPUs terminals if there is a difficulty here it's these little rings because the o-rings are very important we need a watertight seal and Jay has been taking the ones from the little single credit terminals that come on the cards and then replacing them over onto our two card parallel terminal we've settled on the position of the radiator we got to mount it up right here and we've also worked out a drainage you said radiator that I said radius a pump the pumps right here it's mounted to the radiator back to the parts of the system all inside yes it's just back to the basics but Jay worked out this awesome little drainage system so it's kind of in the back we're going to use some of the flexible tubing and some of the flexible tubing fittings that I did in Jay has this this little guy he added on here so this is going to go at the end of the tube we'll cut the tube off right around there and then it's got a little clamp on it you're like little release valve and then of course for safety it's capped on the end so to drain in the future I just got to pull that cap off twist the valve and then hang that out we'll just tuck it away at the back of the system there and a nice easy way to drain the system which is very important and where people don't think about drainage drainage isn't partner this is a real problem it is I'm just ecstatic that we actually have this pump installed here we were really kind of at a loss for a while how to do this but this is a metal bracket that actually came with a silver stone item don't worry Josh if you're watching I removed the silver stone logo it was from a silver stone power supply actually so I pulled that off and we're able to mount the bracket for the pump right there and it's actually pretty sturdy too there's a little bit of clearance at the bottom I can back up a little bit and you can see down there once we get the rigid tubing installed that's actually going to give it even more support and other than that look everything's coming together that's pretty well folks the build is finished all completed powered on temperatures we're getting about we're adding about 30 C max on everything under full load we use that new and visit line tubing overclocked to seventeen hundred megahertz on the GPU and the CPU is not running actually at seven megahertz gigahertz seven make a stuff up alright so we're gonna tell you guys a quick story here because as J was certain was explaining to me moments ago when it comes to custom builds when it comes to more complicated bill sometimes you hit a stopping points and that's where we're at right now that's actually every time sir every single time I've never done a custom build that didn't require me to stop rethink or have to do something really different okay now the first potential stopping point that we hit today was the mounting of the reservoir / pump yes as J is pointing at with the pointer fortunately we got around that we've actually mounted it as you may have heard earlier to the radiator we used a metal 120 millimeter fan bracket that actually pulled off of a since I was a player because Paul came up with the idea of mounting it to the radiator somehow with the little plastic bracket he found this guy that one but this is plastic it would not have held up and so I said well what about like a metal one off of a power supply or something if Paul was like I don't think I have a 120 on a power supply first when you grab that any one point I went over there pull is okay this will work perfect and it was black now so it actually matches I'm perfectly happy to leave it in there and it's providing a pretty solid mount for the pump now let's move on to the stopping point which is when we were about to start looking at bending the tubing right so okay the biggest challenge we're going to have here is making it pretty going from this red to the inlet on the pump and basically the way we have it arranged that's what makes the most sense we were getting ready to do a test bend or get a fire up the heat gun and stuff we took out the Primo chill bending kit this is a 10 by 13 millimeter piece of det g tubing means the inner diameter is 10 mil Aerodyne verse 13 this is a 10 mil bending kit mm-hmm it does not fit in here at all if it does not fit you must equate to rustic but you can't so you can't heat and bend the ptg tubing without and all something else are you going to bend it if there's nothing in there like a man this basically acts like a mandrel okay it won't allow it to collapse on itself the moment you try and bend this if you heat it with nothing in it it will just it will just kink it was kink it there's nothing keeping its shape so you have to have an insert like this I have this exact same bending kit and I also have primo chill btg tubing at home that I've used plenty of times you guys have seen builds that I've done with it no problems whatsoever so one of two things have happened here pyrrha chill does not make this two they outsource it just like everyone else they go to a plastic supplier same thing with the silicone they found suppliers that have products that they need one of two things have happened here either both of these or one of these have some sort of a variance in tolerance I'm leaning more towards it might be the silicone insert but it could also be this tube it's it's close enough to where you would think you could get it to fit with a little bit of lubrication here we go again guys trying to fit it in there just wouldn't we tried I mean I can get it started but even if this was like say it say you had oil on there you're not gonna get it down far enough we could have tried to just shove it in there and bend it but the problem is then even if we have the oils in there you're heating this up if those start to evaporate at all and you lose any of that viscosity you go to pull this out and it breaks off in the tube that's a worse time than it not fitting because then do that whole tube of scrapped the silicone insert is scrapped at that point and then you're never going to get that piece out and if you did it'd be so short you wouldn't do anything with it so the best thing to do here was to stop probably contact the manufacturers and say hey we're having a tolerance problem here see what they recommend I'm actually going to this piece of tube home and I'm going to test it with my silicon piece so we can determine if the problem is the tube of the silicon because I have more tubing at home so I can at least compare J's going to test my tube out and he'll he'll get back to all of us with my socks out poles over all right but that to sum it up at least wraps up this video so guys I'm sorry we didn't quite get as far as we were intending to today but just go sometimes you're like the sexiest part I know the sexiest part which is a tomb bedding tube bending but uh don't worry because we're going to do that still the tube bending will still happen just going to be a little bit away miss Paul off set aside as much time as I need to get this build done even though I've got two more acrylic tubing builds to do as well as finish the parvum build and skunkworks is getting an upgrade which we'll talk about in future may have already set - the good news is there's lots of content coming for you guys so stay tuned thank you for watching this video don't forget to hit the like button don't forget to subscribe don't forget to go to my 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talking we should be facing you right I can use the in-camera audio or something if it's okay you also might notice some some of them I like like some things with building in production like I don't care some of your Paul isms some of my Paul isms are I'm like I will easily let that slide for the sake of this thing is still going something your glasses are all glittery so but only you can see that way I could see that well Paul's a Paul's a vampire