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which hasn't there's a bunch of Springs with which it's very it's a different method that's why that's how they don't have any copyright violations I'll tell you where they were hamsters the keepers my patent patent infringement the hamsters you'd be surprised lately hamsters are more like the backbone of the internet yeah yeah their would make most hoops most Linux machines they run running through the two are powered by hamsters or the data back and forth and a yeah well there's different amps just different hamsters for different tasks certain some hamsters carry the data back and forth right other hamsters spin the wheels just to generate power yes science obviously and some just just sit around don't do anything just taking those are the supervisors you have to have somebody who's calling the shots hey guys how's everyone doing welcome this is awesome hardware this is a live show we discuss technology to talk about computers and computer parts and what's new with computers and we stream every every Tuesday evening at 5:30 p.m. Pacific to twitch TV / awesome hardware as well as our YouTube channels my channel Paul's hardware as well as Kyle's channel bit wit we're streaming the first half of episode number 171 right now it's December 4th 2018 and we have much important news to discuss with all of you today but first a word of warning we do drink beer on the show and we occasionally use adult language you know sometimes we curse like sailors tales demonstrating right now so mind your ears and if you have any young ones then please send them away in case you're wondering we're currently drinking Lagunitas brown sugar which is 10 percent which is a 10 percent but these are the last of them so we're we're finishing that off gonna be a long show finishing that off and one more thing to note before we dive right oh we click on those things now before I dive into the show proper a quick note that we do have stores where we sell merchandise unashamedly branded with our 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orders over 50 20 percent off over orders over 100 and he also has this new design at the eat bit Boyd last year new batch stuff also available on a variety of products it's adorable so good it's me check it out buy some stuff if you do buy stuff or if you happen to donate during the live stream we will be reading off your donation comments and also thanking you for buying stuff during the after party which is linked in this video's description attach a message to your donation and even any message you want yeah within reason that'll be great alright let us dive into some technology news first off wait I didn't I didn't do the lower thirds and then do the lower thirds there there okay alright first off we have a rumor from WCC F Tech in the leaks and rumors category so you know obviously this could all be lies that we are spreading right now green disseminating but this is all about AMD's next generation of products and it's it's fairly exciting if true of course it true the rumor was actually from a website a Taiwanese website gamer comm TW and this a one-team W yeah I believe T W is Taiwan I think pretty sure sounds I'm 95% sure of that yeah but yeah here's a slide slide apparently these slides are from a gigabyte presentation it's a slide it must be true not directly from AMD but gigabyte of course works with AMD and makes motherboards and such and this has a bunch of stuff like about current socket and for stuff but also upcoming socket name for stuff so right now we can see the stuff second half 2018 that's right now and all this stuff is currently available Raven Ridge gonna clear it all out on in the next-gen and I don't know why this is blocked out this is blocked out right here but socket and for for the next generation is codenamed Matisse are the CPUs themselves are codenamed Matisse 3000 series Verizon CPUs codename Matisse they're supposed to be seven nanometers n2 based processors that means not only we got a die shrink from 12 nanometer down to five from 12 nanometer down down to seven five nanometer shrinkage shrinkage I can relate is what they used to call me a nice that's a I mean percentage-wise that's I mean if you look at that's a that's a lot of shrinkage going on it is right there but shrinkage in Swiss sea views is a good thing so not just the die shrink also the Zen too so if we if you look at Zen stuff and Zen plus stuff the 1000 series of right into the 2000 series of Rison that there's more incremental updates there this is an actual refresh of the core architecture so there still remains much to be seen like I said still much in the rumor and speculation category but both of those things together could potentially mean that Andy's might have some pretty competitive products coming out here especially when you look at the stagnation that's happened on the Intel side with they're still delayed until 2019 ten nanometer products so other interesting stuff about this leak again if true is that they're still sticking with the am for socket I was kind of surprised about that they promised support for a m4 through 2020 so I guess that makes some sense but I wouldn't have been surprised for them to say like well that's our rise into stuff and we're gonna support like our resident is that we're going to support that through 2020 but now here's the next generation of stuff that's cool we're more badass they're committed to the customer according this still a.m. for socket still backwards and forwards compatible so you have a x5 70 chipset motherboard to replace the current generation of x4 70 ships at motherboards but you could take a 2700 X and slot it into a and AM for x5 70 motherboard and it would work likewise you could take potentially again if true the 3000 series processors which will still be aimed for and slot them into an X 370 motherboard or an X 470 motherboard however you would lose support for a lot of the features of the next generation of products including PCI Express Gen 4 hub which is a pretty which is pretty significant it's a big one that's a biggie yeah yeah there's PCI Express Gen 4 still in the works we're expecting a pretty big bump up in bandwidth much like the jump from PCI Express Gen 2 to Gen 3 and this would also theoretically mean that this is going to be the first generation of consumer products to support PCI Express Gen 4 which would be another kind of like feather and AMD's cap for the stuff they've been doing recently right I mean I think that's a that's a pretty big thing for AMD to be able to say is that they're if they're actually going to be to Intel to the market with with support for that so that's cool too yeah of course PCI Express Gen 4 is the type of thing that you'll have to have support for on the desktop platforms as well as products to slot in there so we'll have to be looking at like the next generation of graphics card or an actual product that is PCIe gen 4 but for compatibility you know I don't complain about that other interesting thing about this is the expectation is potentially that it will launch its Computex 2019 Computex happens at the beginning of June every year in Taiwan and that would also mean that what we talked about last week AMD's Epic Rome processors which are also seven nanometers and two products AMD has promised will be the first seven nanometer products to launch so if we're expecting rise in 3000 series at Computex that logic would indicate that the epic processors would probably prior to that sure so that might be a little bit more information on when to expect those legit I wouldn't be surprised to see some more stuff on that at CES which is the beginning of January but hopefully more on that once next month I guess there is talk of up to 15% instructions per clock per fruit it reprove moment performance improvement with this next generation of CPUs so that's pretty exciting too again process shrink in the new architecture so and then the last note in the article that also thought was was worth pointing out is that they said they're also aiming to fix and improve upon the memory controller by reducing the memory delay and allowing a better support for higher frequency lower latency memory so an improved support for lauralee instant memory is good that's been one of the kind of sticking points with Rison as you always have to be like I'll make sure you get the compatible memory so you can work and get it running at the higher speed wider compatibility much like with Intel where you often don't have to worry about what kit you're getting would also kind of narrow the gap between their platforms so that's good cool cool all-around exciting good news again if true speaking of what may or may not be true according to Ivan and bear in mind this is Ivan he's very trustworthy generally speaking as nickname is crazy Russian he's that old could he be trustworthy and interesting this was posted by Linus tech tips they're looking over at walmart.com at the overpowered gaming desktop PCs never ISM these overpower gaming desktop PCs are infamous infamous ever since Linus tech tips broke the news that they suck lies tech tips first on the scene reporting about these Walmart you know supposedly really good gaming PC's and last Texas was like no we're here to report the truth to people first of all we're gonna be we're gonna break this story and they got a lot of traction from that they were they were the first I'm joking of course Kyle brought this up now I feel like I know I feel like one of my own viewers who comments first after sanity video that's just been posted to take credit for being first because I technically won the first to make a video about the Walmart gaming pcs however I will give credit where it's due Steve from gamers Nexus was the first to actually post a video about the PC with with the app physically in hand I was just making speculation although I I retract part of that credit because I was first to publish a video online about a physical Walmart PC because of I was on floatplane that it was on flat plain days before Steve's video ever went up on you to see the only way people would have known that is if they subscribe to you on floatplane you must give me more money and then you can no more knowledge is money knowledge is money now you owe me part of your floatplane money for for putt for promoting your floatplane channel and my channels get a 15% Oh beautiful maybe I should finally follow up on that since I've been on the hook for like eight months to supposedly sign up for that we have it nevermind point being these Walmart pcs are called overpowered gaming desktops and reports of their crappiness have been embraced by and large by the gaming community because anytime you have a large company trying to do something and they do a crappy job at it you know point pointing and laughing is a fun thing to do but more more more to the point there is a public service in here because if you have somebody shopping at Walmart who's like oh this PC gaming thing my my kid has been talking about fortnight or whatever them they want to play and they want a gaming PC Oh Walmart has one they could easily be duped into buying a very low quality product over paying for the hardware that's actually included and there are many many faults in these systems pointed out in both Kyle's videos as well as gamers Nexus video which now has 2.6 million views so you guys have probably already all heard this before and then of course science has also followed up and done a video on that as well now the original story that we're going to be talking about right now is that Walmart his head apparently canceled these overpowered gaming desktops and they took them off the website and they weren't for sale anymore they're back but as is often the case as we try to talk about something on the live show they are now back so Wow I'm just refresh it I just refreshed but I guess you could get an overpowered gaming desktop DTW one and pick that up on Tuesday December 11th in Irvine wait that's cheaper than it was yes they dropped the price by 200 bucks don't you feel bad for buying it at the full pray did ya and I do how dare they this come I feel like changes everything I received some credit doesn't Walmart in store right now something you can call them and complain I will call complain go right now record the conversation did the whole thing until you get them to like offer you the refund for it and then and then dropped it oh by the way I'm the one who did about your crappy pcs so the speculation earlier today was that Walmart had dropped them as a result of all as a negative flack and feedback however that does not seem to be the case so that kind of changes the the slant of the surge by a question later on but that's fine don't worry about it never mind but like I said Steve's Steve's video so gamers Nexus video and this is it - almost 2.7 million would you also brought that single video just to give some perspective here a video that goes this big for a channel as as largest gamers in excess they grew almost a hundred thousand subscribers within a month they were close to like 370 370 K before they posted this video and now they're at 460 basically so congratulations I mean huge shout to say even then the team over deserve it that's an absolutely massive massive gains they're awesome this is the story of the like late November early December YouTube gains has been so many stories of that we had you know bps custom sprain yeah our friend he'd want drew Polly just way up from from the the giveaway that just ended yesterday yep by the way if you entered in the giveaway that coordinated giveaway that me Kyle and PPS customs did you may check your email because emails were sent out last night and you've got 48 hours to respond to indeed but anyway point being don't buy gaming PC from Walmart and I guess that's how we can you might not even get the right PC yeah all right other news this week the NVIDIA Titan RT x video card has now been announced confirmed it's supposed to be available for sale this month the launch is December 2018 I don't know if they're actually available for sale and videos website or anything like that but there's an entire tackle linked in this video's description all my articles I'm discussing today by the way I linked in the description if you guys are interested and yeah this is a this is a massive beastly $2,500 graphics card the Titan r-tx this was expected but it also kind of crept up I don't know if you were watching video YouTube channels tech channels you may have spotted it because there were several leaks in the past week yeah Jay's $0.02 Lake is like oh this RT X happens to be in my video usually on the Linus had his in in the wind show and popped it out there I saw a the slow mo guys tweeted a picture with like this the computer they had in the background that said Titan on it so these cards were sent out early and NVIDIA apparently gave people the okay to like leak them teased them like T's I guess that it's a if it's a leak would be like unauthorized righties I guess would be a more accurate word that's true it's true so it doesn't seem as as as dirty now right when you had all it at ease we were hoping to title this episode J's 2 cents exposed I know but then people would just think we had nudes of little J's that would kind of benefit in any way that would kind of be a tease as well that's absolutely there depends on who you ask yeah really really does definitely a tease for me anyway though if you have 2500 dollars to spend and he wants the highest end graphics card now available this Titan RDX has 4608 cuda cores 576 tensor cores it's got a base clock of 1350 megahertz in a boost of 1770 I imagine there'll be people overclocking this as well it's 24 gigs of GDD are six memory not HBM two by the way so not like the HBM to that the Volta is using so somewhat interesting there the HP m2hb M&H PM to thing didn't seem to take off I'm wondering how much of that has to do with the success of Vega hmm or just continued availability there but boy being 24 gigs of DDR 614 gigabit per second that's a 384-bit interface so he got 672 gigabytes per second total memory bandwidth there's a six megabyte l2 cache the GPU itself is still the tu 102 so that still is the same GPU as the 2080 TI this one's just fully unlocked with all the cuda cores 4608 vs 4352 with the 28 e TI founders edition so so there you go RK xbox r-tx titan being nicknamed the t-rex which kind of makes sense cuz there's a tee and an RN and X in the name yeah Titan RT x t-rex and it's kind of a cool nickname so I feel I'm not sure if I should endorse it single precision throughput of 16.3 teraflops double precision compute performance I think this is right I just can't wait to see the SLI benchmarks yeah I don't know that is sorry so you actually for double precision you're still better off with a Titan to be apparently because you've still got a lot more double precision floating point yeah this is this is this is part of how they differentiate like their Quadro cards and stuff from these 10 cards but um yeah hundred and thirty teraflops with tensor performance that's up from 57 for the 2080 Ti so the holy moly pretty huge jump and also up from 110 from the Titan V damn so cool turned an 80 watt TDP as well that's what's kind of surprising to me because the Titan V was like a big a big is a big triple slot card right you this is supposedly a 30 watt 30 watt greater TDP 280 Watts versus 250 also 280 Watts versus 260 on this awesome et angle salon but it's also still the ones I've seen are still that same dual slot cooler looks like a 20 vti it looks exactly like the 2080 I found really interesting was I and that cooler has already been proven to like I mean it's not bad cooler but you know it's better they're better right anyway so there you go there's a rundown of the 1090 X moving on them nuts so chromium Microsoft is building a chromium powered web browser and they're finally apparently giving up on edge or continuing to develop the web browser the sort of core web web browser that edge became after they moved on from Internet Explorer so what's what's a chromium again so chromium Cromer says chromium essentially chromium is like open source core web browser chrome is Google taking chromium and sort of making it fancy Google version I see so you can you can get you can get chromium by itself and you have a very bare bare bones web browser with a lot of speed and sure functionality and stuff that you would you expect if you've ever used chrome before right chromium is just open source and stuff so chrome is Google's take on chromium so whatever Microsoft calls this browser will be Microsoft's take on chromium so dumb I will dumb I mean okay I I feel like I'm so like I'm so apathetic now towards Microsoft being able to make a functional and easy to use and efficient web browser I remember when Windows 10 was first coming out everyone was like the they're ditching Microsoft or Internet Explorer it's gonna be this new thing called edge and like everyone got their hopes up and I even I was like kind of excited and an edge came out and it completely blew and I felt like at that point I just I was like Microsoft no matter what tools you give them they they'll take chromium and they'll make it their own Microsoft II way and they'll basically just turn it into another edge like that's that's that's what deep down I feel like is gonna happen I hope they prove me wrong and that has to be it's a viable alternative to be fair and to play devil's advocate or somebody like when was the last time you used edge I've had to use edge here and there in the last few months from freshman up on an under compute like in fresh installs when I have it installed Chrome yet and I just got to use it for certain things there was the other the other day I had to use edge for something I don't know the the download speeds for a geforce driver took three times as long on edge than it did with Chrome or Firefox so that was this week so I have used it recently and not been happy with it it still sucks just as much as I remember it but I hope I hope they change so I will say that just in my reading and browsing on the internet I haven't used that very much myself but I have I feel like I have read more edge sort of like edge actually isn't that bad sort of articles or people who are discussing like what they've done with it and think changes that they made to it so I feel like edge is probably a more palatable and acceptable web browser than Internet Explorer ever was but at this point they're obviously you know trashing the core of the entire thing and it's going to depend on what they're able to do with their take on chromium and if they're able to get people to take advantage of it I I could see some Benes benefits from this because there's some I think there's some there's some core security benefits to it but overall I think I would I'm just gonna be curious to see once Microsoft actually launches this and starts deploying it in Windows 10 or whatever if people will distinguish it based on or like even even know that it's based on chromium and and find some that that makes them a little bit more amenable to trying it out because I know there's a ton of people who would just never even try edge because like I always get it in an explorer right I hate Microsoft web browsers there's never gonna give this a chance sure I'd be somewhat curious to see if people give a chromium powered web browser that Microsoft makes do you know does the article state if they're gonna keep the edge name or if it's gonna be called something else I would expect them to rebrand it again because it's different yeah and because like I said there's there's enough people that don't like edge that but there's no mention in the article of the article because it doesn't doesn't really confirm that it's just an I think they're working on they would need to rebrand it for sure yeah if it is gonna be that much different it needs to have a different name most likely all right I'll give it a shot I'll give a shot ten nanometer Intel products are available now that's right on uh in in the form of this ten nanometer cannon Lake Nook oh the nOCA and actually has gone up for sale so cute at major US retailers now this is this is somewhat significant potentially maybe this might indicate that Intel is having a bit more success with their ten nanometer manufacturing process and yields that they're able to do a wider launch because prior to this there have been some ten nanometer notebook products based on this same processor available but the fact that it's a little more widely a little bit available now to the point where they're able to put it into these the looks and sell them means that there's more of them so they go Intel is obviously completely fulfilled their ten nanometer promise to sell ten nanometers stuff I want to check the actual price of this nook Intel box nuke eight i3c ysm one nuke eight home mini PC with Windows 10 currently available at Amazon for five hundred and forty dollars is this one of the bare-bones ones that you've to install your in memory and stuff how do you tell I think for that price it should include a yeah and ok and chums for me it comes with memory comes with yeah this is also contain so you got memory installed so yeah this is a this is a full computer do they not sell anything else that's the only see the only ten enemy or CPU there's no i-5 very sevens right now in the Nook no this is the only CPU that's currently available okay so there it is stats around screen again articles in the description if you got to want to read the whole thing but the a380 121 you is the actual product which is a two core four thread processor two point two to three point two gigahertz clock speed base and boost and four megabyte cache 50 watt TDP so low-power processor it's tied in with an AMD Radeon 540 GPU with 512 stream processors 32 texture units 16 RPS and 2 gigs of gddr5 memory the one for sale there also you know they can configure these in different ways but the one person for sale there also had 4 gigs of memory installed so yeah to two aspects to the story one being if you really want that Intel 10 nanometer product you can buy it I guess to being yes the potential implication of them actually having a few more of these available which might be a good indication when it comes to the their yields are improving the actual fabrication process but then but then the third sobering fact is that there is no update or any indication that there might be anything sooner on the desktop side when it comes to socketed ten nanometer Intel processors you know because we're still not expecting those until late 2019 it'd be interesting to see this chip compared to a like a comparative I 3 that's been in a previous gen Nook just to see if there's any difference there like like another I 3 you skew processor 2 cores 4 threads the most comparable I believe in an tech has done some testing on that with the with the laptop that came out and sort of trying to suss out the like like what's your actual what's the amount of processing power per core mm-hmm and per second or whatever and then you can sort of extrapolate that to say well at this frequency you'd get this much performance improvement so if you get that core times 10 if there's going to be a 10 core you know Intel mainstream processor at 4.8 gigahertz then you should be able to get X performance right so yeah there's some of that that's that's gone on I think but I don't have any of it to reference right now so we will have to wait so there so rather than do that we're gonna just just have a nice easy segue into our sponsor spot hey oh yes Toshiba Toshiba has chosen to sponsor and I have to apologize last week when Kyle was saying Toshiba 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in the system that I'm giving away during the charity livestream that I was supposed to announce at the beginning of this livestream but I didn't but I mean I can announce nevermind oh that's it after the sponsors but I still have my have to point is you could potentially win one during the livestream anyway all these are based on toshiba's BICS flash technology there's the RC 100 there's also the TR 200 series of SSDs so check those out yep links are in the description big THANK YOU to Toshiba for sponsoring awesome hardware thanks to Shiva and making a high quality NAND flash products that are both fast and affordable what you up alright okay we have one more segment before we end my half of the show and that is let's not put my busy pretty good nope it my PC today guys saris are accurate I know you're all disappointed next week next week folks show is supposed to be oh yeah what what that's supposed to be sword fight it is yeah it's our fight alright so we have to sword fight questions sword fighters we're Kyle and I argue about stuff and then you guys vote and let us know who was great starting off with the r-tx titan now we already mentioned there's a bunch of leaks and they were planted Nvidia planted the leaks and sent out some of these r-tx titans of people just like hey you guys could accidentally show this off prior to the official announcement date so they were not leaks I guess teases yeah they were teasers they were teasers approved teasers we want to pull you guys okay about what you thought of them these are TX Titan leaks or teases did they impress you would they did they did they spread the knowledge of the end the the existence of this product and and seed that in your mind so that in the future you would potentially buy them or did you see it did you see through it as the as the shameless ploy it was to exploit your your eyeballs by exposing them exposing your eyeballs to this level of exploitation what do you think how were they were they fun new way to tease a fool new product are we stupid and okay um you know what I'm gonna say they were stupid and I hated them because I am super salty and the fact that I did not get one and if I don't get something that I want then whoever did get the thing is dumb and the whole initiative revolving around the thing that I didn't get is also dumb so I'm gonna play the card I'm gonna play the supersalty you - Burkhardt and it's dumb and because you know what things that I get from from from people from companies they're not done they're good they're great because I'm happy and you know I got the thing that I wanted and I get to like mess around with it I can do whatever I could just let it sit there and collect us but at least I got one I feel special you know and screw all the other clubs you didn't get one you know I feel superior like I'm on a pedestal I got this cool thing but when other people get the cool thing that I want makes me feel like I've fallen off the pedestal now of a sudden they're on a pedestal and I'm I'm just joke like I'm just a regular guy and that that rose me the wrong way you know I want to feel I want to feel superior to everyone else and so you know we've clearly clearly it can't be the fact that they're just better than me in some way that that's why they got the product it must be the fact that they are in fact GPU shills there are their marketing skills and they were clearly paid off or were promised certain things by the companies and they did not and she acquire them from honorable gains from honorable methods and because of that they are shells okay I feel like we learned more about Kyle from that answer than we did about the actual SPX I stand by everything I said but but and by I'm going to respond with obviously the retort which is that I thought they were a fun way to tease a cool new product you're only saying that cuz the only other choice that's true I don't have anything to add to that really all right so wait let me think how am I gonna argue that I should argue this see it's really difficult you got excellent it yes you actually have to think about arguing your point so look I mean when it comes to when a you're a marketing person at Nvidia and you're like hey we want to kind of spread the word about this thing and you you're not really given any marketing dollars to spend to like buy ad space because it'd be silly for a product like this it's really a niche product it's high-end and whatever so you're like hey I've got a few samples I can send them out what better way to kind of get a little bit little buzz go a little word of mouth and then like oh it accidentally appeared on the wind show like oh just shut up they're like Oh J like how didn't I go it's just accidentally in the shot and made it through the editing process and didn't cut it out or anything like that where you are arguably no I am arguing for it because it's it didn't sound out it's like sarcasm you're you're you're saying something that is obviously far out there and absurd because people are people see that and they out and they instantly know what it is they know it's planted no one thought that that was just like actually accidental but they saw it they or wherever it and so that's you know that's a basic positive marketing campaign and that's the best I can do it Thank You Man let's see what people let's see this most people didn't notice I I can I kind of like that that's that's actually the the the worst thing as an Nvidia marketing person that that you could hear is that people I don't like not that you hated it that you didn't even care which is actually the way I like to treat a lot of things that I don't like just to yeah different but at the same time did it really cost them anything because it costs them a few graphics cards that could have otherwise sold for $2,500 apparently but but I lost that one so short and chews you drink your sucker the t's didn't cost them anything because at the end of the day J is still gonna do a video on the Titan RT X Linus is still gonna do a video on the Titan r DX so they're still gonna get are still gonna get featured in big ways with dedicated videos and the T's itself was just kind of like a bonus like a you know people notice it that's great if not then whatever it doesn't really I mean we're still gonna get a video from this guy and this guy and this guy so I feel like they didn't really have anything to lose they're just so if you could if we could sum up this question and answer especially if anyone from in videos watching I think what it boils down to is that they should send up more Titan RT X's to more youtubers yeah because that would help them and be good a big good think more people would notice certainly this poll shows that people didn't notice in video so you should just well I'll be honest I've never never just I've never gotten a Titan I have no Titans neither right zero to be so spoiled at Newegg I could go into I could go in when the Titans would come in I'd just take them yeah I wouldn't take me to I'd borrow them I burn we returned all of them I would take them I would take them they come in to get photos take it I'd be like I'm just gonna borrow that and then we'd like set them up and test them and everything back then I didn't even know what I had yeah I didn't even know what I had I would just take it home for the weekend and now just have my way with it we're all thirsty look at it look at that someone told you you know Callie one day when you have a million subscribers everybody's still won't send you one of these I would have I would have held on to it you know i would i would have cherished it every second with it that I had no all right what are the question here this one's we're gonna we're gonna run through this quick because I'm going a little over already but Kalyn Steve when I made this drop old had killed Walmart's gaming PC's and they were no longer available for sale obviously that's been proven false by the website that we pulled up like like an hour ago mm-hmm but we're still gonna argue this were Kyle and Steve too brutal were they too critical of Walmart's gaming PC's and I'm gonna I'm gonna say I'm gonna say no I'm gonna take that I'm gonna since I get to choose an answer this easy one I want to say no easy answer obviously you know they're doing a public service here they're trying to show the quality of a product that is the benefit of a Youtube reviewer of a product as being able to get that first look or that look at something before you actually buy it and Kyle and Steve both clearly showed that the Walmart overpowered gaming PCs are inferior products you don't get very much for your money so they were very straightforward and direct in that and I think they did a public service therefore no they were not too brutal they were direct and honest Kyle why were you wrong let me argue now against myself Paul tell you yes even I were so brutal to a fault I'll be we were just trying to spread the joy of PC gaming and you know sometimes you can go too far as a reviewer sometimes you just well you know you get emotionally attached or emotionally driven and sometimes your emotions can carry you away you can get carried away with your emotions and suddenly it becomes more of a personal video or personal piece than something more objective and you know we are reviewers at the other day but we're all still human and sometimes those emotions and subjective feelings can can creep into our content and occasionally no reviewer is perfect occasionally we let those feels get the best of us and you know if we're arguing for this straw poll I will say that it's very likely very possible that Steve and I could have contracted some of that in you know in our Walmart videos so Kyle would would you like to apologize to Walmart no absolutely oh my god no puss concludes all right results wow it's a big spread oh Jesus how are you so wrong we were so wrong here and your assessment that should've stuck with my original video there's no usually there's I put a third option in there you know like just for people who don't who want to you know chaos and stuff but I actually somehow as I was making this straw poll like I hit some button and it just popped up as like a that's fine then all right speaking of that's fine that's fine for this episode sure is for this half of awesome Parker thank you guys so much for watching woo it's thumbs up button if you're watching in the future on my channel and again links in the video subscription if you guys want to read up on any of the articles we've discussed yep other than that if you're watching live we're gonna switch over to Kyle's channel right now so jump over that links in the description and then once we're done with all that we will move on to the after party as well thank you so much for watching bye back good