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What's Your Favorite PC You've Ever Built? - Probing Paul #19

2017-09-18
the Corsair void Pro headset features comfortable microfiber mesh fabric and memory foam ear cups custom tune 50 millimeter neodymium drivers with dolby headphone 7.1 surround support and a unidirectional noise cancelling microphone with LED mute indicator available in RGB and Wireless trim too so click the link in the description for more information how's it going guys welcome back to Pauls hardware this is probing Paul episode number 19 my monthly Q&A video where I answer questions that you guys ask usually in last month's videos so going back to last month which was episode 18 I always seem to get a screen cap with my eyes closed apparently for this but these are all the history of probing Paul's going back many many years so check them out I guess if you want me to answer other random questions for today I'm gonna dive right into it again all these were asked in last month's video in the comments section so if you have questions want me to answer for next month leave them down there starting off with Austin Shoffner who asks could AMD put the Vega 56 or 64 chips on a PCB with gddr5 as far as the video memory or are these chips designed only to work with one type of VRAM the only reason I would suggest this is lower costs and cad MSRP a lot better yields feel like HP m2 is extreme overkill seems almost pointless right now now the decision to go with HP m2 memory by AMD or Radeon technologies group was made pretty early on from my understanding and it was definitely a risk that did not pay out andy's kind of known for doing stuff like this in the past I mean go all the way back to them being the first ones to integrate the memory controller onto the processor and other steps that they've made a 64-bit processing that kind of thing they've done some cool stuff in the past HP m2 memory doesn't stand out as one of their best decisions now for any benefits the HP m2 might have as far as the increased amount of bandwidth it's a it's a it's available and the performance in some games it's probably gonna be some time before we see the software catching up to sort of take more advantage of the hardware's capabilities and like we've heard from lots of sources although maybe not directly from Radeon technologies group is it hbm to yields are low that's led to difficulty bringing the product to market now when it comes to the actual physical capability of what the Jeep you can do the GPU was designed with a memory controller that's integrated and that memory controller only works with HBM - so it's not something where they could just take it and swap out that memory there's benefits that are gained there but it's just not paid out here for AMD so I think that's a big reason why we're seeing limited availability of Vegas 56 and 64 chips and I don't know hopefully that improves in the future but it's just one of those future things that we're not really sure what the answer is gonna be so thank you for your question though next up from everything is fire hey Paul if you weren't a tech tuber would you still have a system or systems with enthusiast grade parts 1080i is until X processors dual GPUs and extravagant water loops for example wouldn't know if you were in if you were into videography or very into gaming before making your channels so there's multiple threats to answer this question I would say yes but definitely not to the extreme that I have right now if I go back historically I have purchased top-end graphics part cards before before I was into the tech world very much but I was into computers so like I bought a 7800 GTX back in the day and video graphics card that was like 500 bucks at the time that was a huge investment for me because I was you know wasn't making a ton of money at the time and everything I have I was why I was an early adopter of intel's enthusiast platform back when they introduced X 56 and they're their first enthusiast class stuff with their triple channel memory and that was in the Hallam and I got an i7 920 but this is kind of where the the genesis of like I've done a few entry-level like I did an entry-level X 399 builds theoretical build recently I did an entry-level X 99 build and I'm probably gonna do something similar with the with X 299 but the idea is for people who are into computers you see that enthusiast class of hardware is like man that's that's where the real power players go and the people who are like impractical with how they spend the money and they don't really care if they're gonna make use of it they just want like a really really fast computer like I have some level or appreciation for that but I also understand that if trying to invest in that type of hardware it's really expensive so you got to kind of figure out what you can invest in if you are just buying the stuff outright yourself now the things I probably wouldn't do extravagant water loops is something that I always had a fascination for and a vague interest in but never any inclination to investing my own money and so that's probably something that wouldn't have dove into if it wasn't for like the connection I originally got two years ago when I originally built Arctic Panther Jay helped me kind of figure out how to actually put it together and do the hard line to bending and everything he also put me in touch with ek and they sponsored the build so water cooling is one of those things where the price to performance doesn't pan out quite as much and it's it's it's that extra notch up of enthusiasts level and I would say that's probably something that it would have taken a bit more for me to get into if it wasn't for the fact that I did YouTube and stuff but videography I've been interested in going all the way back to college actually went to college for cinema television and that was a big reason why I built my own computers because like I didn't like going into the lab to edit and stuff like that I'd rather have my own computer that I built and like be able to edit in my dorm room or whatever but yeah I I really enjoy this stuff and I don't think I could do what I do as often as I do if I didn't actually think it was pretty cool and everything all right next question from Nick has arrived are you ever gonna do home automation he says it is very fun that is alright so a good question and something that I have speculated about getting into so let's start from the negative side first I follow on Twitter Internet of and Internet of on Twitter it's a really funny account to follow because he'll point out all of the snafu situations that have people have gotten into because manufacturers like sticking Wi-Fi into everything now and giving them Internet access and being part of the Internet of Things home automation when it comes to like like like keys you know like the remote locks they have and that kind of thing I'm a little bit sketchy er about I'm not quite ready to take a lot of the vital functions of my home and give them Internet and Internet access and that kind of thing a little bit more curious about DIY sort of making things that function in your home using technology but that's not necessarily part of some larger scheme or some big company that sold you the product or something like that so maybe I might get into something like that I know that's a little vague but I haven't I haven't really researched it too much what I am in the process I've just started the process of doing right now is upgrading my entire electrical system in the home so I'm gonna get a tesla powerwall I've already put a deposit down on that and I'm gonna be getting a solar put in and then we also have some some home improvement plans that are in the works so I'm probably gonna document a lot of that stuff and I do plan on trying to integrate technology to some degree so home automation is probably gonna be part of that and it's just gonna be like we'll see how far I go with it and also kind of what I'm familiar with because like I said I don't want I don't want Internet connected locks on my home for example I'm not I'm not quite to that point yet but yeah hopefully that gives you good answer Nick thank you for the question moving on to the next question Peter no wack Peter Peter Nowak I hope I'm pronouncing that ok hi Paul I bought my PC as a budget rig some time ago I switched from the G 32:58 a very very capable dual-core an entry-level CPU to an i7 4790k my question is there a point to changing my motherboard will I increase performance when I switched from an MSI b85 PC mate to some z97 chipset based motherboard by the way next nice content keep up the good work thank you very much Pyotr so I believe this is the motherboard the MSI be 85 G 41 PC mate from MSI a budget motherboard but you know it's got all the basic functions that you kind of want on there but it is limited by the chipsets which is the Intel v85 chipset which is a business chipset which is not part of Intel's scheme for having fully unlocked overclocking capabilities so for that you need to upgrade to a z97 motherboard but is that really worth it C 97 is sort of on its way out you can tell because Newegg has some of them still around and hanging out in stock but most of them are refurb models there is an as rocks that you can buy new for about $125 pricing is a little all over the place but maybe not necessarily the best pricing if you're comparing it to modern stuff right now so the answer to your question is do you want to overclock if you want to overclock if you're interested in that and if you've got an a you know one hundred and hundred twenty-five dollars to spare then sure maybe upgrade your motherboard pop it in there and then you can maybe get a little bit more performance out of your CPU bear in mind if you do that you're probably gonna want an aftermarket CPU cooler which you can get away with for thirty to forty dollars and then you also might consider that if you already have Windows installed on the system and activated if you swap your motherboard there's a good chance you will need a new copy of Windows to install on that new system because the software will look at it as a new system completely so it's kind of your trade-offs I would say since you've got a 4790k that already runs at a pretty decent clock speed as it is unless you really really just want to dive into overclocking you're probably fine as is and just you know hang out with your system because you got a pretty capable system right now give it another year or two and then can I look at the landscape and see if there's any upgrade options that make sense to you for upgrading your platform overall next up is Dylan bright god what would be some good jobs or degrees to get into if someone wanted to work in the hardware aspect of computers rather than software or data alright big ole grain of salt with my recommendations here because like I said I went to college for cinema television so I'm gonna kind of give you high-level recommendations here if you want to work with software with hardware you're going to want to be focused on your engineering and we're gonna be focused on science so physics just just the fundamentals of how electricity works the fundamentals of design because that's a lot of the stuff that goes into actually developing the hardware to function properly if you're looking at jobs then I would definitely say consider some entry-level positions it's actual computer manufacturers and then beyond that don't ignore software completely that's actually a mistake that I would say I've made in the past I am not very good at like coding or the software side I have a you know decent grasp of the fundamentals but you know I can't go in and write my own code for it for the most part so I would say keep that in mind because they do pair together very closely and you don't want to get too you know I have too much knowledge on one side without the other so I hope some of that information has been vaguely helpful but let's move on to the next question this is what I call the a fanboys lament right now and sorry I Boog I didn't mean to like specifically call you a fanboy but you do say you do to start out by saying what does a die-hard fan of AMD like me do in this case and this is just the the the PC building landscape right now he doesn't have a GPU he has a full built computer his rx4 80 died and he had to return it and apparently he hasn't been able to get it replaced so I'm not sure what the deal is there he wanted to wait for Vega it's been six months there's no Vega and now that it's actually out there really overpriced he wanted to buy a Vegas 64 but yeah so he's a click away from buying a tiny DTI since he's been saving for so long but he's just not sure whether he should take the plunge or not he says I still hate him video simply because they're dominating the market I don't think that's a reason that hates a company but I mean I can understand that if you're into AMD I mean they've done some stuff in the past that a lot of people have looked at like their support for open source and that kind of thing but yeah AMD has put anyone who is a big-time AMD fan in a pretty difficult situation right now where the only practical graphics cards to invest in are going to be like in the sub hundred dollar range or right around that range some super cheap stuff that's still available or $400 plus and even $400 plus the only practical stuff is like a gtx 1070 which you can actually get for around $400 or gtx 1080 or gtx 980ti because AMD's high-end options vega 56 and vega 64 are all grossly overpriced pretty much everywhere you look and I believe that is still the case as of this morning so I might actually direct my my answer here to AMD rather than to fans of AMD because AMD look at the situation that this person is in eyeball guy the only direct like like advice I could give to you is unless you're ready to drop the money on a freesync monitor right now a freesync monitor and an overpriced vega card might balance out to be somewhere in the range of what you could also buy a GTX 1080 and a g-sync monitor for that are kind of equivalent I know that's general again and there's lots of specifics you could get in and say yes or no but that's kind of what we're looking at here if you're investing in freesync then maybe you could you could make the justification to buy a vega cart if not dude drop the money on that 1080i because it's significantly faster than a vega 64 and it's available and you can buy it it's not ridiculously overpriced compared to the MSRP that Nvidia originally came out with it for so this is where I think AMD is gonna suffer the most in this current situation they're gonna have fans who are really put in a spot where they have no other practical choice but to invest in the competition's hardware and once they've done that and tried it out and tested it what's it gonna take to get them to go back to AMD and I think that's the biggest question right now but you know that's gonna play out in the next few months as we continue to watch the prices of graphics cards and whatnot all right what is your favorite PC you've ever built asks the obsidian sword I like your I like your avatar here - all right so this made me think back on many many pcs have built in the past I of course have fond places in my heart for all of them going all the way back to the Hewlett Packard system that my dad bought which I didn't really build so I guess that one doesn't count but point being there's lots of systems I've used over the year that over the years that I'm a little bit nostalgic for but arctic panther i think has to take the cake for this one I don't have them all right here the the case is over there here's the power supply it is continued it's continuing to be a work in progress originally built a little over two years ago my first ever water cooling system full water-cooled full loop water-cooled system that I ever built with hard line tubing did more case modding than I've ever done with any system before I'm still modding the case I just posted a video I think yesterday where I added a USB type-c port to my define our five so yes it's it's gotta be arctic panther it's just investment of time it's been a lot of fun I've learned a ton of stuff doing that build and I've definitely gained a huge appreciation for the guys who do like full custom mods all the time because it's a huge labor of love and I think I think yeah that pretty much hopefully answers your question final question here from Alex Collins this one's a little off-topic so bear bear with me but hey Paul is it hold me closer tiny dancer or holding me closer Tony Danza or is it meant to be both these are the questions that need answers in life and Alex I'm happy to inform you that I'm gonna be able to provide a definitive answer to this question right now now Elton John Sir Elton John forgive me certain Elton Hercules John to be specific came out with his hits classic song tiny dancer in 1971 on the album madman across the water now Elton John hails from England he is English Tony Danza a famous American actor and boxer I was born in 1951 in Brooklyn New York so at the time when Tony Danza when tiny dancer came out Tony Danza would have been about 20 years old in 1971 now he actually got famous or was originally known for his role in taxi taxi as a TV series actually roll was was on TV from 78 to 82 this is all before my time in case you're wondering by the way so based on all this I have to say I'm gonna say it's tiny dancer not Tony Danza I don't think Elton John would have been aware of mr. danza's work by that time although who knows maybe maybe Tony went and took a trip to England you know in his late teens and met a young Elton John and maybe that was where it was all sourced from I was not able in my limited research to find any definitive evidence of that however so I'm gonna say tiny dancer that's what I'm going with because that is all for this sort of strangely ending episode of probing Paul I hope you guys have enjoyed it if you did hit the thumbs up button and of course don't forget to leave me some questions for nuts next month I'll be perusing those very soon thank you so much for watching and we'll see you next time
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