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ZEN BENCHMARKS! Ryzen 7 1800X Review vs 6850K, 7700K & FX-8350

2017-03-02
the master key series of mechanical keyboards from Coolermaster features genuine Cherry MX switches and the flexibility of choice whether you want small medium or large you can pick your size and pick your color with RGB and clear white LED backlighting options click the sponsor link in the description for more information excellent well it's been a while since I had the opportunity to test a completely new computing platform so I had to make some tough decisions when it came to my rise in benchmarks until I had about three days to test the CPU since this past week was kind of bookended by trips to San Francisco that I made and I wanted to show a range of comparison systems against the new $500 AMD Rison 7 1800 X I do also have the 1700 and 1700 X but they arrived later in the week so I'll be testing them in a follow-up video now if you didn't already know the 1800 X's AMD's flagship 14 nanometer 8 core CPU with 16 threads via simultaneous multi-threading 20 Meg's of cash and 24 PCI Express gen3 lanes has a base clock of 3.6 gigahertz and a turbo of 4 gigahertz although mine ran my grand gesture little bit fashioned that out of the box with my gigabyte or ax 370 gaming 5 motherboard reisen CPUs will fit in new socket and 4 motherboards with a variety of chipset options with X 370 and be 350 chipset variants providing overclocking support since all Rison CPUs are multiplier unlocked for overclocking I want to focus this video on the benchmarks rather than the specs that you guys probably already know though so here's a rundown of my three comparison systems that I will be testing the 1800 X against so my rise in testbed features the r7 1800 X of course the Noctua and HQ 12s special edition cooler 16 gigs of Corsair Vengeance lvx memory running at 29 33 megahertz a gigabyte Horus a X 370 gaming 5 motherboard and the GT x 1080 founders Edition graphics card from Nvidia to keep things fair I used 16 gigs of DDR 4 running at 29 33 and all the test beds except for the am3+ 1 and 4 the CPU frequency I ran a slight 100 megahertz overclock which was actually how the gigabyte board ran the r7 1800 X out of the box that or it was writings extended frequency range feature kicking in but I was not running with the system in Windows 10 high performance mode so I don't believe that was enabled anyway the 1800 X ran at 4.1 gigahertz on one or two cores and 3.7 gigahertz on all cores my FX 8350 system as shown in my build video for it features an FX 8350 8 core cpu running at 4.2 gigahertz boost with a cooler master hyper 212 Evo cooler 16 gigs of ddr3 2400 memory from g.skill and a salut saver tooth 990 FX to play on motherboard and also used the founders edition GTX 1080 by 7700 K system is none other than the classy RGB build so I'll link that video if you want a full parts list on the build itself it's got an mg XT Kraken X 62 cooler ASUS Maximus 9 hero motherboard 16 gigs of g.skill ddr4 again a 29 33 I did remove two of these six that you can see shown here when I was doing the testing and an asus strix GT X 1080 that I under clocked to match the founders edition GPU frequency the CPU was again overclocked by 100 megahertz running at 4.5 gigahertz boost and finally the X 99 system was 268 50k was also featured at a previous build video which I will link to but it has a coarser h100 iv2 CPU cooler Asus x99 deluxe 2 motherboard 16 gigs of DDR 4 in a quad channel configuration this time 4 by 4 gigs but also running at 29 33 and an EVGA GTX 1084 the wind that was also under clocked to match the founders edition frequency the 68 50k was also given that 100 megahertz OC bump as well running at 3.9 gigahertz turbo up from its 3.8 stock frequency of course I welcome your feedback about my CPU clock speed decisions as well down in the comments but for now let's dive into the benchmarks will start with Cinebench of course this is our fifth being tested with multi thread mode as well as single thread mode and the 1800 X as shown in the preview benchmarks by AMD cleaning up here with the multi-threaded score of 15 84 of course thanks to it having 16 threads compared to 60 850 kada as 1270 100 K that has 8 FX 8350 that has 8 really really nice boost from the old performance of the FX 8350 here although when you switch over to single thread you do see that intel does still have the single thread instructions per clock performance boost at least with the 7700 K and the skylake architecture 68 50 K with Broadwell e is coming in just behind but we will see that change with further tests next is CPU mark overall score here again sees the 1800 X cleaning up with a score of fifteen thousand six hundred and sixty three sixty eight fifty K coming in second 7700 K coming in third and that FX 8350 barely able to get close well couldn't quite break 10 K but then of course the single thread score is once again tell us the story that the instructions per clock performance of the Intel CPUs is still outpacing what we have with rise in seven so single throats for of 2065 not quite keeping up with the 68 50 K and definitely lagging behind the 7700 K with its core of 2647 next up we have blender and this is just doing the splash fishy cat render which is available for download from the blender website pretty quick render here but we can see at the 1800 X with all of its cores and all of its threads did a pretty damn good job here coming in with a score of about 36 seconds just over that that is less than half of what the X FX 8350 got so again showing where we have come in the past 5 years when you compare it to the old excavator CPU next up let's look at handbrake I was using it to re-encode one of my 4k videos it's about a four gig file about 12 to 13 minute long video and coding it down to 1080 from 4k and here's a 1800 X wins again the score of 8 minutes and 30 seconds lower is better here of course and again just about half of the score of the FX 8350 so impressive there and also nice to see it again outperforming v68 50k in the 7700 K again I think thanks to all of the cores and threads available Adobe Premiere Pro CC this was again a 4k video render one of my own video projects coming in a very very tight race here between the 1800 X and the 68 50k I will say of just one second but the 1,800 X did win one once again coming in a couple minutes ahead of the 7700 K and again just destroying the FX 8350 as it should in case you're wondering this is about a 13 minute long project being rendered to 4k 30fps with 48 megabits per second bitrate next up let's switch over into gaming benchmarks and here is where I want you guys to pay close attention because gaming is important and a lot of you I think are concerned about gaming performance with Rison let's jump right into it with synthetics we have a 3d mark firestrike Ultra score overall 5000 for $2.99 for the 1800 X that's largely and thanks I think to the physics core 18,857 just just blown out of the water at once again with all of those course threads 17,000 was what the 68 50k was able to muster 14,000 was up to 7700 K I was able to put out but bear in mind this is a synthetic test we also have 3d mark time supply which is a DirectX 12 test again the 1800 X wins with a score of 7500 72 overall and again I think that's largely in part to the CPU score of 7500 43 which is a good thousand points more than what the 68 50k was able to achieve and we jump over to real-world tests though the story does change and I apologize I had a limited amount of time to run gaming tests only have two games that I ran GTA 5 instead of 6 the GTA 5 just look at the numbers here compared to 4k and 1080 now 4k we see pretty similar numbers across the board even the 8350 and that is because at 4k we're seeing more of a GPU bottleneck than a CPU bottleneck the GPU is in outputting as many frame so it's not given a CPU enough to work with however when we jump to 1080 we see that the Intel platforms are able to get the 1080 GT X 1080 graphics card to output about 140 frames per second but the 1,800 X is about 15% slow or 118 frames per second and this was repeatable this isn't just a fluke benchmark of course the 8350 showing that it's really really not up to the task of keeping up with the modern GT X 1080 only outputting about 90 frames per second but yeah that 1800 X performance is a bit of a concern let's move to sieve six and this is in direct x12 mode and this is a bit more of a CPU intensive game depending on what test you're running of course at 4k the graphics score was sixty four point five frames per second for the 1800 X again coming in shy of what's the 68 50 in the 7700 K were able to produce getting 68 FPS and 71 FPS respectively not quite as big of a gap as we saw with GTA 5 but still they seen under 2 X lagging behind in game performance 99 percentile I'm going to be trying to include these scores as much as possible for this for the future but here again we saw not as good at performance this is the 1% of Solus frames and what their average frame rate was and we saw 51 FPS for the 1,800 X whereas the other two Intel platforms hits 54 and 56 frames per second when we jump over to 1080 with 6 we see that gap widened even a little bit more with 1,800 exiting 69 frames per second whereas the 60 at 50 and 70 700k hit 85 and 78 of course still doing great compared to a 350 but I think you guys are more concerned about how it performs against modern Intel CPUs in this respect 99 percentile did a little bit better with the 1800 X hitting 49.8 which did outperform the 68 50 and then average turn time which is more of a CPU based test but I think here still the instructions per clock won out as we saw the 7700 K outperforming hitting 18 point seven seconds average trend time whereas 1800 X only hit 22 point two now I do want to briefly now touch on temperatures and power draw but please take my numbers with a big ol grain of salt simply put my measurement methodology was a bit shaky because most of the temperature monitoring software that we rely on isn't fully functional with rising yet it's not reporting proper numbers i-264 for example is just completely wrong so my power draw numbers as well a little bit shaky since they're relying on instantaneous and peak measurements from my kilowatt power strip and I'm going to be improving my power draw technology here soon as well but that said my motherboard thermal sensor that I am am 90% sure is reading from the CPU socket take the 1800 X's load temps at about 65 to 75 degrees Celsius under full load across all cores and that is what the ambient being about 19 to 20 degrees Celsius here in my garage as for power draw I saw sublet 300 watt peak power draw across all tests with my rise in platform that's pretty nice only hit 291 watts max which is pretty good still about 20 to 30 watts more than the 7700 K based system but AMD in their documentation wasn't really claiming that it outperform the 7700 cake's more is it they're bringing the performance per watt back up in line with what Intel currently has and I'd say for an 8 core 16 thread system that's a pretty good results when it comes to power draw but now it is conclusion time and it's a little complicated on paper and in practice the raw power of 16 threads is undeniable for workstation tasks for video editing and for transcoding and I'm very glad that I have the FX 8350 benchmarks from that system back there so we can see just how far AMD has come in the past five years or so IPC improvements have closed the performance gap with Intel or at least narrowed it to a much much smaller margin in such a way that it's easy to say that AMD has created a powerful and much more affordable consumer solution for home and professional desktop use those gaming results are hard to swallow though and even though I only ran a couple gaming tests I have been in touch with Steve from gamers Nexus who verified that they saw gaming FPS numbers lagging behind intel's current cpus in a similar fashion across the titles that they tested it's a frustrating result that really puts the brakes on wholeheartedly recommending the 1800 X for anyone who is purely building a system for PC gaming why the gaming numbers are suffering with Rison it's still not wholly known but it's clear that single thread performance is still king when it comes to gaming and decisions made by AMD at the microarchitecture level could be limiting performance with certain instruction sets for more in-depth discussion though I highly encourage you to check out the gamers Nexus coverage of the rise and launch because Steve had some very insightful thoughts on this topic while you're at it look all over the internet for a lots of coverage on reg and because lord knows there's tons and tons of places where AMD was sending these processors out I am going to spend a little bit of time this morning to look at some articles find the good ones and I'll post links to those down in the description so there you have it guys an exciting launch to be sure but definitely tempered somewhat by the less than stellar gaming performance I was feeling that the less expensive rise in CPUs like the 1700 will provide a better price to performance for a gaming build and as the dust settles from this launch and more outlets publish their numbers I think things will become more clear especially when testing across a wide range of different gaming titles in the meantime here's one more reminder to 1700 and 1700 X have showed up and though I did not have time to cover them today I will be working on that like immediately I'm also going to be doing some overclocking of course as well so hit that like button share this video if you enjoyed it subscribe for more videos just like it check that description once again for links to other reviews that I think are good and as always thank you for watching
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