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to do a transverse thing which is called nice nystagmus just missed agnus yeah I tweeted a bit about it but the good news is heroes doing much better there he is there there's I did a video of his dismissed agnus you can sort of see his eyes going back and forth there so this is on the 25th which is five days ago when we're in the car on the way back from the vet we took him to a specialist to check it out because we were concerned that he might have had a stroke or something like that yeah had you ever heard about this condition I was not familiar with this condition at all okay it's somewhat common that must've been really scary then more recently here he is we took him to the park a couple days ago and he was super stoked he's still wobbly his head his head kinda leans to the side he's over there right now he seems so much better now though when I came over then in that video yes yes he's improved he's doing good Thanks to everyone who you know responded I had tweeted to ask for some support and the day that happened in everything but just wanted to say thanks you guys for that I'm like heroes right here now he knew that we were talking about him we're talking about him I don't know good boy yes he's very good boy though second thing my wife is extremely pregnant streep leap for extremely extremely and adventures just update on that no baby yet everything's still fine no problems or anything just still waiting just babies just chilling just a game in time but should be very soon so pre-emptive warning there's a chance we won't be able to do the livestream next week do you think I think it's like it's gonna be between now and a week from now it's animo sleek most likely a damn likely most likely yes so that's a cool thanks also to everyone who has been tweeting and stuff about that cuz lots of support words of encouragement and everything you know I'm I'm I'm I'm of course frazzled and everything I don't know what's going on but well we'll get through it yeah we're excited okay you will get back to the the regular meet of the show which is tech news so I'm gonna dive into some some of this stuff right here some you it I guess it's a lot of rumors bouncing around this week starting off with the story over on WCC f tech about AMD rise in 3000 CPUs right the third generation of Verizon this will use Zen to architecture the the current 2000 series uses then plus let's just based on 12 nanometer mmm-hmm original Rison was original Zen which is 14 nanometer now the shrinking it down seven nanometer oh yeah and we're hopefully gonna get a lot of benefits from that cool we already know that Lisa su will be giving a keynote at Computex I was gonna say later this month but late late in May is when that's happening I believe on the 27th Kyle will be attending coputex and doing some reporting on that I'll be reporting from home and hopefully you know with the baby and everything but the rumor from WCCO F Tech here is sourced from a popular Chinese tech portal aha specifically this website really Billy Billy Billy Billy Billy this is the translated Billy Billy article itself about some information this is all derived from people who various motherboard manufacturers who have already received rise in 3000 cpu samples and according to those sources which you know are a lot of them are in China or Taiwan they say that there are quad cores into CPU samples that have been sent out to a lot of manufacturers just quad cores so that they can drop them into the motherboards that they're developing so that they can test them and make sure that they work right now these being early samples they are probably not representative or not necessarily indicative of final retail performance or clock speeds things could change but even with that said these manufacturers according to this rumor which again could be BS this could all be BS we've got to point that out we're in the rumor area here but 15 percent instructions per clock boost over his n plus and then plus was already a 2 or 3% for IP C boost over originals n so nice nice gains here 15 percent IBC improvement like it's like oh my gosh are you Intel 12 years ago or something like that yeah cool but also potentially a 4.5 gigahertz boost frequency which is also a nice gain typically is in two parts if you're dealing with XF our frequencies will hit four point two maybe four point two five sometimes four point three depending on the chip itself in the cooling you have attached to it but also like the XF r2 and and stuff very effective at running higher clock speeds and and and giving some noticeable performance improvements with gaming so shrink that down to seven nanometer new architecture hopefully this information is at least vaguely accurate because these are all good this is all good news and it's also somewhat within the realm of possibility from what we might expect here that's pretty cool the same report is also indicating that the x5 70 platform because we are expecting new motherboards to launch along with the Zen 3 stuff or the Zen to rising 3000 series stuff will potentially offer 40 PCI Express Gen 4 lanes from the CPU and the PCH now how many did x4 70 have you know officially I don't I don't know off the top of my head and and I want I want to clarify here that what we're talking about is potentially some something akin to like what Intel says when they're talking about their PCIe lanes so 28 right yeah mm-hm 20 and I believe 28 was 16 for direct PCI Express slots and then either 4 or 8 for like m dot 2 slots and stuff like that and then there was another and then 4 or H that went to the PCH for connecting up SATA ports and and that kind of thing yeah because they split them off and intel has done some kind of weird stuff with how they advertise the amount of PCI Express Lanes available on their main stream platform which in reality is 20 because they have 16 directly available in the cpu for your PCI Express slots and then they have four that go off to the to their chipset right DMI 3.8 whatever they whatever they call that and and and that splits off so they say oh well you could have 20 PCI Express lanes available there that's what the manufacturers can connect up but it's all using it's all month multi-plex from 4 lanes so you still have effectively 4 lanes I have a feeling that's what AMD is talking about here too I wouldn't blame them for using that phraseology to advertise their products Intel already does it but for anyone who's looking at this and being like oh my gosh these are gonna be competing with thread ripper and other high-end desktop CPUs with that many PCI Express Lanes I doubt it yeah specifically in the article they reference a leak this is what is this from it's a leak datasheet talking about an X 570 chipset motherboard which is listed under the enthusiast segment talking about the PCI Express line connectivity they have broken it up to eight plus four plus four which is a pretty standard breakdown for mainstream for a mainstream platform you have a GPU slot and then maybe some add-on card slots there's also a PCIe up link over here that's listed as by for Gen 4 as well then they've got connectivity listed for USB 3.1 and SATA and USB 2.0 so again this is this is talking about what's going to be available on this platform I don't see like some sort of crazy native massively upgraded PCI Express controller integrated into the end of the CPU but it does seem like they're probably going to be pushing for more connectivity in than what's currently available on an Intel mainstream site that would make a lot of sense other information in this article again all potentially not true but they talked about B 550 which I imagine we would continue to be interested in as we have been interested in B 350 and B 450 because they offer overclocking and very very reasonably priced motherboards that get the job done by and large for most people without neediness Benz 180 or 200 and 200 plus dollars but B 550 is for casuals or for casual users according to the article and will not have PCI Express Gen 4.0 support huh which is probably fine because you're not gonna need it that much because B 450 and the amount of bandwidth of a with PCI Express Gen 4 versus gen 3 and graphics cards that can actually use it it's probably gonna be less of a big deal so I can see that as a differentiating factor for B 550 to be 2x 570 we're also expecting B 550 to launch two months after the X 570 stuff does late q3 and potentially further confirmation here that the a320 chipset one of the oldest and lowest end chipsets from Rison which I'm sure everyone who bought a system based on the a320 chipset was like you know what in three years if I can't upgrade this to a 16 core 32 thread processor I'm gonna be pissed that's probably what a lot of people were thinking when they invested in their a320 chipset platform but probably won't support rise in 3000 series so there is a small segment of an for socket wielding CPU computer users who might not be able to upgrade which honestly again probably isn't that huge of a deal although I'm sure there will be still some people who complain about it yeah it probably cost AMD more money to add support for 3000 series on a320 than that would actually bring in yeah I mean that and the fact that those boards are gonna be so cheaply built like at the lowest possible you know support for everything for everything in there that the idea of being able to drop in some of these higher end chips that are probably gonna have slightly more power requirement at least yeah that that's understandable to me motherboard manufacturers are said to be expecting 12 and 16 core parts so further continued rumors that that's going to be a thing which we've surmised for quite some time ever since Lisa first held up to the first rise in 3000 part chip rise in 2000 part where we showed it and was like hey if that's the CPU die with 8 cores on it and then they is the space here for maybe they had another one yeah just kind of weird an awkwardly position so we're still still expecting that anyway though let this article's link down in the description if you guys want to check it out one other rumor that I've seen bounced bouncing around although I don't think it's directly referenced in the article is that these products will be launching on July 7th which would be 7 7 and AMD has already shown us that they're real hard up for that that that lucky number 7 since they launched the Radeon 7 with the vega 7 nanometre 777 right super lucky which doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility to me that would be q3 technically but I could see them doing a bunch of announcements and stuff and demos at Computex and then launching roughly a month later yeah four or five weeks later they don't in the past that's possible but again still rumor could could be not true they could launch earlier maybe they're just gonna close down completely and never never sell anything ever again that could that could be what they do next story and this is just sort of a little bit of a supplement to that one that we were just talking about to show that hey maybe there are some viability to some of these rumors going around this is an official statement from Asus directly from the Asus website about 300 and 400 series and 4 motherboards and their next-gen AMD rise and CPU compatibility they are starting to list some other boards that are getting updates and the BIOS versions that will support this next generation of CPUs so cool that's that's that's fairly official now what they're not saying here is like the entire range of 3000 series CPUs will be supported you know are there gonna be some special class CPUs like those real high core count ones that do have special requirements we're not sure it would be cool if they did support the entire range I wouldn't be too surprised if they didn't and you did have to have some higher-end board or the new generation to support those really high court count ones but we will wait and see as for now though if you are currently rocking an asus x4 70 B 450 X 370 or be 350 motherboard you can check this list to see if yours will be getting an update if you might be thinking about a CPF upgrade and I will say for a lot of people who are on that 300 series like that's kind of cool like it you got an entry-level X 370 or be 350 motherboard a few years ago and now you're getting a new CPU that's launching that you could just slot in there yeah yeah they're still expecting that there will be compatibility requirements for support for certain features like for rise in 2000 series you had to have a 400 series motherboard to take advantage of xfr 2.0 and precision boost overclocking which are good and useful features so it's not like there won't be any reason to upgrade but for for some people who are looking for a drop-in upgrade the work it will be in the cards for some that's cool alright moving on Navi more AMD rumors also again from WCC F Tech but they're juicy so we'll talk about it this is actually a little bit more physical because there's some pictures involved here these are sourced from twitter twitter user Komachi and sukkah who posted these pictures of a blue PCB which seems to be that of a high-end graphics card now if you look closely here you can see the AMD logo that's that's in it right there next to the PCI Express slot here so the theory here is that this is the PCB for a high-end graphics card possibly based on the new seven nanometer Navi GPUs that am DS Radeon technologies group have been working on developing for quite some time there is of course the clear AMD branding on the PCBs themselves granted these are just like snapshot pictures that have been taken so you know somewhat dubious and in their sourcing and everything but you know they look they look fairly legit it looks like a gamers Nexus mod mat of kind of does your right makes me want to build a computer these have already been analyzed and analyzed and alloys din a builds I'd analyzed in a build site video and alloys didn't feel too much severe watch his videos he goes over the PCBs and talks about the connection points for lots of different things so he spent 16 plus minutes going over that so feel free to watch it it's links in the article which is linked in the description things that they have discovered and been able to somewhat confirm again assuming this is legit are the GDD are packages which are scattered around the the actual GPU mounted location should be BGA anyway this is where a GPU goes around here these are all package connectors so these would be ball grid array connection points for G DDR packages and you can count up the actual number of contacts on there it's a hundred and eighty and that means that it's GD GD d r6 so that wouldn't indicate that this is a current generation next generation products there are also eight DRAM packages scattered around the GPU itself so that means it's 256-bit memory bus interface which is also pretty common for a higher-end graphics card that's basically the configuration that the r-tx 20 70 has there's some connection points for display connectors it has two DisplayPort a single HDMI connection and what appears to be a USB type-c which would be a virtual which would probably be for a virtual link connection for VR headsets also something you would expect on a next-generation graphics card it's got an eight phase-- vrm which you can also kind of see right up here on the top right I'm sorry the VRMs are right here these is a phase V RMS build late I think speculated these are each of these BRM packages is 70 amps so it's a pretty over built as power delivery goes so probably looking at a 250 or 300 watt TDP card but of course a lot of this again is speculation based on just contact pads and stuff like that very top right here is the connection points for PCI Express power Dule eight pins as what's laid out on the PCB but of course often these cards are designed with all of those connection points there and then it's up to the card manufacturer to take that design and integrate the VRMs as they see fit and they can they can sometimes cut down on that so it's not a guarantee that we're looking at to eight pin connectors right is the upshot of that finally and this from the build site video he looked at these connections these these three holes right here this triangle and he said he's seen this as a mounting solution for blower style fans and a lot of the PCB analyses that he has done so reference might be a blower style so it might be a reference design with a blower style fan which which which would can I don't know but we see reference design cards of blower style fans all the time NVIDIA has finally sort of decided that that's not the best way to go there's different ways of looking at it oftentimes you can be like well a blower style cooling solution is good for specific scenarios so for smaller form factor builds and stuff like that AB Laura style fan allows third-party manufacturers who are building these cards to differentiate their cards with overbuilt coolers with two or three bands cooling solutions and stuff like that yeah there's pros and cons I think to looking at that but point is Navi that's a little a little bit more juice on that this this seems fairly legit just looking at it but you know we've seen you've seen plenty of fakes that have been designed to try to fool people but again a lot of the none of this stuff seems like completely outside the realm of possibility it's not like we're looking at this and be like oh my gosh let's get this crazy thing that we've never seen before and it's good 512 bit what kind of like pictures that isn't that like just a straight these are these appear to be pictures of I think shrink-wrapped PCBs if f ed yes if I had to guess they almost look like they're black lip or something like back letter or like I don't know just kind of like the look like they're glowing yeah these here's the actual Twitter most of it I think these are wrapped up so like this is to PCBs next to each other and I think they are in some sort of plastic wrapping so if these work because oftentimes a piece the facility the manufacturers the PCB is not the same facility that will actually do like BGA mounting and solder reflow and another other surface mount stuff so this if I had to guess and if this is legit it's like these PCBs are produced in one facility they're being transported to another yeah somebody opened up a package and snapped a picture up like I say so maybe that's that's pretty cool thank God for guys like builds wait till just like be able to tell us from looking at it yeah a simple shot like this is what potentially might constitute that I up and find his video fascinating that's awesome okay moving on VR VR enthusiasts now have a new product to buy from valve this is their index VR headsets oh it is finally launched yeah well they have announced pre-orders okay they are starting tomorrow Wow they've also revealed specs and we have some high-res pictures and stuff like that so this was not made in partnership with HTC right HTC of course worked with valve to make the vive original VR headset mm-hmm but they're now going to be offering this in what appears to be for four different bundles or like a bundle or you can buy parts individually it's going to be powered by the steamvr platform so it will be compatible with steam VR games some might need updates because some of the features are different in the resolutions a little bit different the full index bundle which is up here on the top left is $1,000 includes a headset to VR controllers to steamvr tracking 2.0 base stations these are the base stations as well as I'll require cables and notes if you have the HTC vive or the vive Pro you can get just the headset alone or the headset with the hand controllers for 750 headset alone is 500 hand controllers by themselves are 280 and this will work with your existing light boxes if you own an original HTC vite oh that's cool and then the Hat the handsets you said the controllers would work as well these controllers will work with existing HTC vive light boxes the light boxes that they are selling here though will not work with existing HTC original valve stuff I see so if your light boxes broke or you're trying to replace one or something like that right you should not buy one of these and expect it to just drop in and work with your existing HTC vive card where okay I thought there was a picture of just the box at some point here they're these these steam because they're steamvr tracking 2.0 right so the new headset and hand controllers are compatible with the old light boxes gotcha so you can't save some money if you did buy that old stuff that's kind of useful blah blah blah base station base stations are a hundred fifty bucks each and again won't work with that 1.0 Hardware original vive that same controllers differences though updates which is pretty impressive is the headset itself has two custom 1440 by 1600 LCD panels which is the same resolution as the vive pro the original vibe was 1080 by 1200 the difference though and it because it is upgraded even though it's the same resolution as Avaya pro it's upgraded with full RGB sub pixels instead of pentile so three RGB sub pixels per pixel instead of just two so that should provide higher image image detail and reduced screen door effects will not have the deep blacks of led though since it is an LCD display with the backlight so there's a slight trade-off but you do get a higher refresh rate hundred and twenty Hertz with an optional experimental quote unquote 144 Hertz mode which I think will be pretty nice hi every you know four monitors is really nice I am you got him ran from your eyeballs that's cool to the vibe in the Vice Pro are 90 Hertz in case you're wondering pixal persistence is down to just point three three milliseconds I included that because it seemed like a valid statistic I don't look at VR stuff off enough too often enough to have a point of reference for that but there has dual element lenses with a hundred-degree field-of-view about valve is actually not disclosing the exact field of view index for this device because they say there is a lack of an industry standard measurement right now so fair enough but they say it should be 20 degrees better than the vibe okay so there there you go the index controllers themselves hey there they are these were codenamed Knuckles during product developments because they actually strap to your hand which i think is a good feature because in VR you're so immersed sometimes you don't want throw stuff it does feature your basic per finger tracking which is an update from the vibe controllers so doesn't just sense your main finger and trigger finger but it can actually sense your other fingers on the controller it's that allows for gesture support for control and stuff like that the controllers have USB type-c battery life of about seven hours they got fun texture on the and the wrist straps I guess the headset itself has over ear sound but they it's actually not on here they they're near-field off ear speakers so they kind of sit that means they float they float like a centimeter or two away a reef away from your ears yeah like that no interesting I mean which is the this review from upload VR says they sound great and if it means it's not pressing down in your ear like I'm all for that and also since they're off year that means you're gonna be able to hear if somebody's next to you being like hey you person in VR like you know right the house is on fire yeah you can't see the real world at least you can hear a little bit of it yes so I'm all for that - that seems reasonable yeah so kind of cool new device IMAX debating pre-ordering one of these myself just because the video on it and I do like the original vive and you already got the light boxes hey I got the light boxes I would probably get the full kit just so I can do that but I will see we'll see I do want to reset the the VR setup and over how much the original vive lunch for launch price is like 800 where's it more than that no I think your was 800 I think 800 seems yeah that sounds about right so this is the full kit here is 200 dollars more than that but it's you know a bit more high-end you got higher resolution yeah built in head news news special features yeah okay clipped oh says vive was 800 bucks that sounds reasonable me too alright valve recommends an nvidia gtx 1070 or better to power this headset but they do say that a gtx 970 or am dr x 480 will work although that is a minimum yeah I wouldn't a nose for entry-level VR sure yeah connects to your PC via display port and USB although you can buy a virtual link cable for it for an extra $40 put that RTX card to use man too bad you got to pay an extra 40 bucks for that virtual link is nice and virtual link would replace the USB and DisplayPort with a single cable right so there you go everyone everyone by the index do it just kidding of course alright couple more stories you shut up oh my god AMD has beat earnings expectations look at this we're talking about the stock market there no apparent reason that's what's what Sam do you doing now look at that let's buy some today they're apparently down point zero 6 but now and after hours trading how does that work after hours trading that seems shady plus 1.1 to amd's revenue from their computing and graphics segment sell fell 26 percent year-over-year to 831 million they said that the client was due to lower graphics channel sales but was offset by increase client processor and data center GPU sales hmm point is that they beat expectations but just just ever ever so slightly which I thought I had written down but now has apparently disappeared from my notes they they're they adjusted their earnings per share to 6 cents beating the expectation of 5 cents that's per share of course really just barely made it and they reported revenue of one point two seven billion which was above estimates of one point two six billion Wow so that just uh justjust seems like just by a hair granted point 0.01 billion is still a lot of money but you know just that just just sliding by here but things are looking better for the next quarter they're expecting revenue between one point four eight and one point five seven billion the analysts say they'll probably hit one point five two billion but again that's up and that's because they've got a lot of stuff in the works and then several big big launches coming up soon right so anyway just gotta throw that in the mix so AMD any of you guys who were reading those stock markets last story here and this is just about a unique little computer made by a company called Compu lab called the air top three why is it sitting next to a render of a hard hat what the hell's going on at the front i/o Brenna yo is very it's very important so these are computers that you need to be made in bulk for use in like on like on location environments I mean it's like you do you buy a bunch of these to use for your company or something the actual computer is called the air top three and the unique thing about it is that is passively cooled completely familis completely fanless you have a break out example of it here with a nightmare is hey and you can fit up to 300 watt TDP system in there they're saying which means you can outfit it with a ninety nine hundred K or future Zeon e CPUs they can do it nvidia quadro r-tx 4000 and they're up to 128 gigs of DDR for memory to MDOT to 20 to 80 SSDs and for 2.5 inch storage devices so lots of room for storage and somehow passively cooled how how hot is that gonna get I'm pretty amazed by this honestly I would expect it the they would the CPU itself would reach a certain temperature and you know ain't Intel it's been very cagey about their TDP listings for like their newer CPMs like well it'll run at this TDP when it actually runs at the frequency listed on all cores for an extended period of time of course it's nowhere near that TDP it's much higher yeah but because that Intel thinks that because it throttles itself to stay within certain range that they could be like it's 95 watt TDP and everything so obviously you're not gonna be running a 99 hundred K in this system full bore in the same way that you would when you're outfitting it with like three hundred and sixty millimeter all in one liquid cool or something like that a little throttle before you get the chance to do that anyway most likely but still impressive I would be curious to see some some reviews on these formats of these systems or something like that so they're super and they're just super compact too which I think was this kind of fun just with some of the small form-factor builds you know several of us have attempted recent yeah our quad row is the only thing it ships with yeah these are not made for like gaming they do they do have something called a err top two in firma inferno which was aimed at gamers yeah there it is oh wow passively cooled air top to inferno this is from February of last year okay and you know it's red on the side so their Inferno for gamers fast mast again I don't know about the performance of these this also just seems to be an article on it existing not the actual performance but anyway just one of those things popped above my feed and I was like wow that's that's cool really small and I imagine in certain use cases very useful especially for companies that need to buy in bulk and have aftermarket support and everything know RGB that's true chats pointing out so obviously it's going to suffer as a gaming computers for that reason yeah that's lower now alright well guys we are going to and my hat is wow yeah I I kept things fairly short I was going to do a follow-up segment at the end but honestly it's already 7:20 and we've got a bit a bit of after-party coming here too so we're gonna switch over to that so thank you guys so much for watching my half of the show try to keep it short and sweet again all the articles that talked about are linked down in the video's description should check it out down there I need to update the description with the after party link ok it's there but it should be live on my channel home entirely thanks again for watching thank you yes everyone