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they want alright gaming we should just about be life yay hi everyone how's it goin and welcome to awesome hardware that's it this is episode number 185 live show we dream in live right now to youtube and twitch TV we discuss technology computers other random stuff stream every Tuesday night at 5:30 p.m. to civic time and you can watch the entire show on twitch.tv slash awesome hardware or you can watch on youtube where the show is split in half because I collaborate with my friend Kyle here who's channels called bit wit we just finished the first tab it's on his channel so check that out if you missed it if you're watching live thank you so much for being here we love you guys yeah we're gonna talk about a few things on my half of the show including some some Zen some Zen to rumors that were kind of bouncing around this week that we want to kind of debunk or maybe just provides more information on EA's origin client had a security security flaw that was exposed that you guys will 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bouncing around it for the past day or two and actually followed up with them aside today to get the straight poop oh nice as it were that's investigative journalism I know I was I felt very journalistic who speaking of journalists techpowerup had the original article on this and if I may be a little critical here I felt please do it this was not perhaps not handled the best by techpowerup this is comment' to be constructive criticism we do techpowerup stuff all the time they have a great website but just just looking at this is the original article posted yesterday April 15th msi betrays AMD socket a.m. for longevity promise no zen to for 300 series before we read any of the texas article let's look at the source here this comes from reddit and it was posted on reddit by master three five five three because the redditor I believe is sourced in Germany and this appears to be MSI's German tech support responding he asked them if they would be supporting the next generation of rising processors Zen two is what they're based on Rison 3000 series is what the processors will be called and the answer from tech support was basically no and that led to a bunch of people being like Spiral what the hell yeah now he posted this on reddit and that's where it got picked up and published by other other other sources of news such as tech power up I just felt like this was not handled the best then I mean look at the first line here greedy motherboard vendors such as MSI want you to buy a new motherboard every two generations of processor for no sound reason at all no accusatory no right okay note that he gets through the entire first paragraph as well as most of the second before even pointing out where the source comes from it's such a bold first statement for a random reddit post yeah for a random reddit post from a random tech support guy we've all seen we've had countless stories on this show before where a tech support rep just got the info wrong and then the company had to come in and say that's not that's not know don't know and yet this like it's a very accusatory post for just some little bit of evidence this right here should have been the first line of the article from at least from what I know yeah headline which is the source right because anyone who's reading this article is hopefully going to sort of reality check all right this is a reddit post a single tech support response yeah anyway so this article talks about these those of the of where this information actually came from support email to an ex 370 X power titanium owner which is MSI higher-end motherboard MSI tech support confirming supposedly that they will not be extending Zen to support to AMD 300 series a representative of another motherboard vendor and this is from tech power up they said that they contacted another motherboard vendor on condition of anonymity who told them that Zandu processors have a steeper have steeper electrical requirements than 300 series motherboards or that some 300 series motherboards don't meet that's valid sure that's yes that's a physical limitation we do that damage we do not know the answer to this question right now right it's worth debating yeah I just feel like this article was was a little hot little poorly phrase especially when you consider that this article has now been followed up by another article today MSI's clarification because they issued a press release now in the original article you'll note that the writer of the article bt a runner did update down here at the bottom update 1604 ms i posted a clarification on this issue but who's gonna read that little bit you'll note that there's no update indicated up further up in the article to the top of the article all I'm saying is we want as much information as we can about this and I feel like they were not being quite as direct with it as possible now MSI has issued a press release sort of dealing with this and I have I believe and there's my screen cap of it that I pulled from my email so there it is I may need to try to make this smaller that's not gonna get smaller okay so loud and clear we will support it no and that's it's not a direct answer that's why oh no that's why I wanted to read this right here so we could hopefully get a little bit more information it's come to our attention that MSI customer supporters we got I believe misinformed and MSI customer with regards to potential support for next-gen AMD CPUs on the X 370 X bar gaming titanium the motherboard through the state we want to clarify this current situation at this point we are still performing extensive testing on our existing lineup of 300 and 400 series and four motherboards to verify potential compatibility for the next-gen AMD Rison CPUs to be clear our intention is to offer maximum compatibility for as many MSI products as possible that's good that's good doesn't mean that's also not a being that's not a that's not a statement of commitment they're saying we're gonna do as much as we can right to make sure we have as much compatibility as we can yeah for this entire range of processors not a guarantee but now knowing what we know about the developments of hardware and and and the and in the PC space it's it's there's a lot of steps that go into bringing hardware to the market yeah so to me this is MSI hedging a little bit to make sure that if there are high-end am4 CPUs Rison 3000 use that do require newer motherboards for whatever reason right whether it's because they're just being crappy and trying to convince you to buy new motherboards sure or whether it's because there's actual electrical power delivery requirements or that otherwise from jumping from an eight-core 16 thread CPU to a 16 core 32 thread CPU until they're the same thing that's available on this platform when they went to eight core and in so it gets a lot of flack for it sure this is one of AMD's sort of selling points yeah and when they came out with a m4 they're like we're gonna support this platform form through 2020 which is next year now they didn't say this platform will support every single CPU that we launched through 2020 maybe it will maybe it won't personally I don't get to give AMD a ton of credit if I am able to take a be 350 or X 370 motherboard that launched in when was that 2017 and take a processor that launches in mid to late 2019 with hell yeah a bunch more cores and threads and drop it in there with a BIOS update or something I think that's a pretty significant achievement and something that you don't see that often yeah I wouldn't expect that sure but there's been some level of promise made to us that it will potentially support three so I can see somebody who dropped three hundred bucks on the high-end X 370 board a year and a half ago being like alright I was really hoping to upgrade to this and it would suck if they're like alright Rison 3000 series we're going to support up to the eight core 16 thread for older motherboards but if you want any of the newer ones that have higher core counts or something like that you have to buy an x5 70 board or whatever is required there we still don't know that right we have to wait and see and you wouldn't you would think that if if they added you know that if they had support for the next gen of Verizon CPUs on their X 370 X power gaming titanium that they I mean like that's that's a very well-built board it's it's it's pretty high-end it's very very high-end and it's got really good power delivery on it so like if they're not gonna offer support on that that means they're not gonna offer support on any of their be 350 board either I would imagine at least at least for those affected rise in 3000 skews so I feel like to coincide with AMD's promise msi is going to try though they're working together msi an AMD are in talks about this whole thing and AMD doesn't want to obviously look bad and msi doesn't want to make a MV look bad so they're gonna try their best to please the customer and fulfill the promise that AMD made years ago so i feel i feel more positive and optimistic about that that i do this article so to round this out msi did publish several lists of their existing x 370 be 350 X 470 and be 450 motherboards that have been updated to support next-gen AMD ap use so again here like I just to try to sum up and be clear about where I'm trying to levy criticism versus where I'm trying to say let's let's wait and see what happens I think the articles and the handling of the follow-up article from tech power up could have been it could have been better it could have been more straightforward to people who are reading this especially people who don't have an initial impression of what's going on right they're not familiar with with any of this a it's it's a it gives a bad impression and I don't I don't think it's the best journalism to be perfectly honest with you at the same time we absolutely should be looking closely at AMD as well as their motherboard manufacturer partners when it comes to this next generation the Verizon 3,000 CPUs right and motherboards and everything that goes along with it I think we should give credit where credit is due if they're able to maintain compatibility across the whole range I wouldn't be too surprised again if there's backwards compatibility to an extent but that some newer higher core count CPUs do require a new motherboard right and I think it will be a question for the future whether we can analyze that and say they did this to sell more motherboards or they did this because they had to yeah couldn't they couldn't physically make these new processors work on existing motherboards because of how their design yeah intentions are everything with Intel recently you could go back and you could take LGA 1151 version 2 processors and then drop them into older LGA 1151 motherboards with customized firmware right and they would still work and in that case you could be like intel you sold us a new platform and forced us into a new platform when you didn't necessarily need to write but anyway there's more to be said on this topic but let's move on for now yeah hopefully we've clarified that to some extent I think so AMD more news they're launching Rison embedded SOC s these are either going to be very interesting to you or not interesting at all I'll try to move through it quickly embedded processors so these are SOC s which means that they have CPU cores as well as graphics and integrated into them and these are going to be sold to OEMs and ODMs which means they're not necessarily something that you're gonna be able to buy straight up oh wow why is that why is that so large oh it's Perl interests and a bunch of mobile devices so here the new two years the two new SOC s or processors rise and embedded are 1606 G and the are 1505 G impressive thing about these processors is the TDP 12 to 25 watts frequency they go up to 3 point 3 gigahertz or 3.5 gigahertz depending on whether you talking about 215 at 16 model only 2 cores and 4 threads so we're not talking about a huge amount of power but Vega 3 GPU integrated and dual 10 gigabit NICs support wow that's a little thing here on the end right that I was like that's that's kind of weird so talking about really low power somewhat capable processors it's very nice you could see you could see a fair amount of implementations for this though you're probably looking at little like you know like those little mini PCs that like like ZOTAC likes to sell they're all integrated really small yeah but like all you got is a bunch of ports on the side and you plug it in and you're like here a new pc you can plug a monitor monitor into it or whatever type of chip that would do good and like an intel look like you can do some really light you know 720p or 1080p gaming probably won't appear in an intel look but similar products yeah I could imagine Atari is gonna be using this in their new VCS console so hmm you know that that's that's one implementation of it um you don't need necessarily a massive amount of graphics one power to to emulate Atari video games but they're gonna be available this quarter already have support from hardware and software companies including Advantech asrock dfi i base metronome and strata cache sun's impressive display support capabilities actually out of these processors that's pretty cool on the next okay next one here we go three 4k sixty displays now we're not talking about gaming we're not talking 3d acceleration but for embedded solutions for like a lot of people have at restaurants or the places where they need displays no signage and digital signage yes exactly so yeah up to three for K displays up to 60 frames per second h.265 encode and decode at ten bit and vp9 decode capabilities as well so for video playback you know of an encoded video or something like that sure seems seems pretty cool so anyway like I said limited application for those of you who might be looking to build a gaming PC or something like that right but what I was kind of interested in something like this for is like maybe like a pfsense box or something like that you wouldn't necessarily need the graphics for it but low-power SOC for something along those lines the two ten gigabit NIC capabilities of it and you'd have to get granted that's just something that's available from the SOC it needs to be implemented with those ports from like in a hardware integrator like asrock sure to support that but something like a really small sort of central server for a home or something like that that could sort of administrative everything shut down all your computers to save power but you have one single low-power unit that has like your network network attached storage it handles DVR capabilities for a TV or something along those lines right so yeah you can see a lot of potential applications for this nice so cool let's move up I'm interested this is from TechCrunch we have the e a Origin client which has recently received an update this update actually was pushed out on Monday so if you guys are playing Apex legends or any of the other games available on the Origin client definitely make sure that your client itself is updated because there is an exploitable bug affecting Windows users with the origin app installed this has been patched but older versions of the clients would still be susceptible the source of this bug is actually kind of an interesting launch feature which reminded me a little bit of the way steam launches games but the origin client has its own URL scheme that allows gamers to open the app and load a game from a web page by clicking a link with origin colon slash slash to four double forward slash in the address that's weird researchers daily be and Dominic Penner of underdog security found that the app could be tricked into running any app on the victims computer by using this dis URL based launch method this allowed any app to run at the same level of privileges as the logged in user only course could be used to allow a hacker to run PowerShell commands that's bad this could be triggered could be triggered by a malicious link in an email or web page or of course via malware because malware can often redirect your browser in the same sort of way it was also possible according to the the security of the researchers tremendous underdog security to steal a user's account access token using a single line of code if you're a Mac user the Mac OS client was not affected but again origin rolled out a new client update to their clients on Monday so just make sure you've got that update if you use that software have there have there been any reported instances of actual compromise or is it not is the vulnerability backdoor was just brought to our attention not that I referenced in the article fortunately this is one of those things that was brought up by I believe white hat hackers underdog security so they let them know of the vulnerability and origin went ahead thanks the Lord's work dated okay so yeah hats off again cheers Cheers white hat security researchers out there we really appreciate it I'm updating my origin as soon as I get home all right did you know seen Notre Dame yesterday I did not see anything about Notre Dame I don't follow the news really I'm kind of under a rock but wifey sauce does and she informing me of the Notre Dame burn that's pretty crazy yeah it was crazy to see yeah just cuz it's one of those things that seems timeless yeah semen it's like it's gonna be there forever and something like it's just burning yeah if like the Eiffel Tower got bombed it was just no longer there like what is even Paris yeah I don't even know sounds absolutely crazy fortunately as of now it seems I mean I don't think they've come out with any further information about what caused the fire to start originally but it doesn't appear to be arson it doesn't like I said I don't speculate but it doesn't seem to be a terrorist act or anything like that okay maybe it was an accident maybe it had something to do with these they're doing renovations on it at the time but why are we talking about this on a tech show the reason is because well I was interested in following doesn't yesterday but there is a really cool implementation of technology which might help to restore a Notre Dame and the articles linked and all my articles linked to the description by the way if you guys want to check out more reading but this is from MIT Technology Review Notre Dame had a digital scan done of the entire Cathedral four years ago in 2015 so yeah Notre Dame itself is eight hundred and fifty years old it's located in Paris massive damage yesterday and a fire fortunately I mean relatively fortunately it's mostly the wood parts were burned a lot of it was built of stone so that stuff stayed intact it's just black stone now but this digital exact digital replica was captured by an architectural and architectural historian named Andrew Talon unfortunately he has passed away so Andrew but have his hard drives passed away but we greatly appreciate the work he has done there's be a great WD or see a dad there's a National Geographic video that's linked in the article where you where it goes over his procedures his methodology for capturing this digital scan you can see the equipment that he used there its uses lasers it shoots a bunch of lasers out they bounce off it it determines how long for the lasers to return back to the sensor and then you basically map out a 3d model so this will hopefully allow them to I have to imagine this is going to be helpful with the restoration project there's been a bunch of really rich people in Europe they're like the Louie Vuitton guy and a couple other oh really the guy apparently in France if you they don't like over almost 100 for a designer in Europe or France or whatever you can you can just drop a hundred million on something like that but it's funny because is I don't remember the names there's two dudes one guy was like I'm gonna I'm gonna donate a hundred million towards his restoration and he was like the Louie Vuitton guy or something like that and then the other guy who's like his kind of rival yeah it was like I'm gonna donate 200 it's like a it's like a really generous rivalry yes so someone someone in chat said 700 millions been donated 700 million okay that's nothing about 350 this morning that's up from earlier so that's cool but here's a lot of angry designers here's the actual digital recreation looks like I'm in the matrix you know and granted they're bouncing around here so I imagine it's it's gonna resolve itself it's one of Jensen's retracing demos yeah you you this is this is using Ansel I believe you got to see how the whole thing's put together and then much useless space I guess the whole reason I wanted to bring this up is you know it was a it was a there's a huge tragedy yesterday whether you're Catholic or French or European or you just appreciate works of art or anything like that there's a lot of sort of silver linings to the story that a bunch of artwork they were able to remove from it before it burned down so that was cool but you know they're gonna rebuild it I am oh yeah I have no doubt about that if they rebuild this and cool that they were able to do this just in time another thing that I I caught a lot of yesterday was people who were like their yesterday or a day before or something like that timmi timmi tech TV I don't know if you're watching right now but he was there he was in he did a Europe trip or something I saw some of his posts on on Twitter and he visited and he was like they're like within the last week oh my god so he got to kind of see it before it Wow for the the burning down happened but yes many objects inside notre dame were saved by the 400 or so firefighters who tackled the blaze there have been no major injuries reported so you know it's a sad thing but there there's some silver linings to talk about so damn move Facebook sucks you guys should not use Facebook all right this was this I don't have a lot to say about this story it was kind of a late addition and it's on a telegraph technology excuse me intelligence page which is a paid website to read the whole thing but I've read multiple stories about this multiple locations Facebook has filed for a patent and have been granted to that patent in the United States for a system which can detect photos people have uploaded that feature items such as alcoholic drinks and snacks the company would then pass those images to the brand's which would then turn them into advertisements for Facebook users to say see so it would in turn it into advertisements add your pictures without your filament although if you are using Facebook surfing to the shoot in terms of service which means you do can send okay continue I deleted my facebook account but good I should do the same point being here like I'm gonna phrase this thing I still need to know my friends birthdays I try to think back like five years and 10 years and 15 years and sort of the evolution of the Internet in my lifetime and everything like that and there was a there is a I feel like there is this Golden Age of online reviews in like the mid to late 2000s before like 2010 2011 2012 when you could go online you could read reviews from actual people of things and their feedback and responses to them when we worked at Newegg that was one of the things I was most proud of about the Newegg website was the review system right and that I knew the guy who monitored the reviews yeah and like I knew how he worked and as like he does it right yeah he knows that if you just let a review come in that's paid for or that's a shill or that's fake or whatever in us yes it's Dennis yeah he still works over there I don't usually say his name I follow him on Twitter because it's all's me and it's a this is going back several years but he never wanted people to know that that was his job I don't know of course is alias I don't know if that's still his real name yeah it's not really his actual name is Gerard Ishod yes yes hey Roger so point being sort of like so if it's five years later and you're a a marketer you're trying to market and sell a product and you're like ah this whole online trend of real people saying like I use this product and it was good that's great we need more of that yeah and they're like well but people use the product and they think it sucks and they go screw that all we need is pictures of people with the product and then we can post that just to their friends they're using that product and then they will buy that product but I'm holding it as my son is using that yeah obviously I want to use it too it's in their room yeah they've out for it anyway there's lots of questions about what how will the information that you upload to the Internet be used this is just an example of Facebook getting a patent to use the images that you upload for ads okay everyone delete their Facebook now this is terrible this is this is unprecedented there's nothing there's never anything I wouldn't call it unprecedented really in the past I've never seen add of like Grey Goose vodka from one of my friends smashed an abortion once Facebook bought Instagram everyone there was like alright anything you post on Instagram can is now the property of Facebook to be used how they how they prefer I don't know if this is anything deeper that it's just gonna be like some algorithm based thing that was like you know it goes in and it recognizes the product and then automatically feeds that to your friends as an ad and wonder how this is gonna look is it gonna be the actual picture that your friend took wasted at a party with like a Grey Goose lot logo at the bottom and it's just gonna be like that's it and that's the ad and it's gonna be under you know when you when you're scrolling through your Facebook feed it's gonna say sponsors gonna give a little sponsored tags you know it's sponsored and it's just a picture of your friend smashed off his ass with a bottle of Grey Goose for the like is that how is that how raw its gonna be is it just a general literal pork over of the actual image and they slap their brand on it or is it gonna be altered at all I just I mean I cannot say for sure because the article is slightly limited in that information is your friend gonna look 15 pounds later I also don't pay them to be able to read the whole article which kind of sucks but yeah I mean that's crazy the idea that a picture you post if it happens to have a product in it might be identified by Facebook so scary image scanning algorithm and then fed whether it's to your friends or just to random people like hey here's a real person using that product obviously they're having a good time and this awesome selfie that you set up to you like you know did everything perfect I mean maybe if and now and now guess who they don't have to pay yeah some marketing company ever like yeah develop some campaign and do something like like specialized photographer was gonna say be a little different if they asked for your permission and you got a cut for advertising this product oh they wouldn't do that no I know maybe in a perfect world but I'm just saying this seems this seems like the the user is getting fucked over what it would it change your reaction to this if you were getting a cut yeah yeah yeah welcome to the real world asshole fuck yeah it's my picture I took it I made this ad for you that you're potentially gonna you know if I've got 2,000 friends on Facebook or whatever I did all the idle legwork where's my cut yeah at least leave your free bottle of Grey Goose Jesus I've no traveling with them co-opting my images and using them however they see fit you've got to opt into it as long you gotta opt into it you got as long as I can wet my beak too I guess capitalism I mean you've gotta opt into it you should have the full right to say no I want to be a Facebook user and use the platform but not be subjected to this advertising it would be nice to have and I want nothing to do with it you should have that option too but if you do have the option to opt in you should get paid for it I have opted out of Facebook entirely at this point so all I have is a placeholder account so I can manage my hardware page I literally keep it for friends birthdays who I forget I'm like oh god is it Paris birthday all right one more oh please you just brought something up so on and pointed out I was gonna tweet this but I didn't here's a fun social experiment to do delete your Facebook account see if anyone knows wait any given number of months and then have your birthday come and go and see how many people still remember your birthday I tested this recently yeah not many people throw their birthday that's exactly why I kept my birthday private on Facebook that's so because I don't want a bunch of people just saying it to say it exactly so do you have anything to say Anika happy birthday thanks thank you thank you that's not where I was leading on Liriano sir I had an event just recently and they revealed they're pretty cool looking monitored 43 inch VA yeah I saw joking productions uh yes Joker has a video this is the predator CG for three 7kp and there's an article on tech power up about it just launched today and it's not launched it was shown at an event oh you actually have Joker went to the events this is also linked in the description I don't know what he's saying here but there's there's a monitor it's a predator see for three 7kp 43 inch VA panel covers 90% of the DCI p3 color space it's pretty good 4k resolution 144 Hertz refresh rate with adaptive sync support and a maximum 100 I'm sorry 1000 semi-free sync nits of brightness yes free sync adaptive sync support is free sync which means it should also be supported by juicing g-sync select g9 cards what is it 916 about max enemy above I forget something like that but yeah 1000 its brightness which means it should also be able to meet the HDR 1000 certification although it's not clear from these articles whether or not that is supported there's jokers jerker's video as well as the tech power article techpowerup article or linked in the description so yeah just one of those monitors it has an absolutely kind of crazy spec range but the size as well yeah that's pretty impressive and you can do it that and 4k monitors are becoming a lot more viable now that we have a next generation of GPUs that are slightly printing the performance curve down with in price range for a few more people so yeah that's cool it's got three HDMI inputs and that's probably because this seems to be like kind of a crossover product aimed not just at PC gamers and in desktop computer users but also at console gamers yeah because you could easily plug a console into this you're not gonna bring necessarily be able to game it to max resolution and everything we can still plug it this is for gamers who like gaming in the living room yes I think it's it's kind of DisplayPort so if you want to use actives adaptive sink or the g-sync variant of that which no 4k TV does that's also true it's also got a USB 3.1 C port so that's convenient comes with a remote control also part of the kind of a crossover most monitors don't have remotes but you know sometimes I would like a remote for a monitor I would say it right now I've got 4k monitors side-by-side the one on the left has its controls tucked away on the right side against each other sighs so no wonder enough to get to the growls right and right now I'm switching back and forth between two computers so I keep having to go up to get inputs what and its really annoying it's actually made me really appreciate the the sort of new thing that the joystick symbologies have yeah as a single those are great button at the bottom with a little joystick full g-spot because it allows you to push it maneuver around do whatever controls he wants yeah and you don't have to reach around the side or anything like that's some feeding on anything yes that's convenient I'm not sure how much this is gonna cost because we have conflicting information from both sources techpowerup says - it's gonna be 1499 gyros 200 and available in the summer euros Joker says 1299 US dollars okay that's a better price I'm gonna go with Joker's Joe Joker I think he's got a right 1299 US dollars yeah should be available summer 2019 so nice keep an eye out for that if he wants a very large high-resolution display with some really cool features cool that's nice okay we have one more segment for my half and that is mail time oh yeah so we're gonna get some mail over there that's a mail alright so this was so guys if you want to send either of us mail check the video description I have my peel Box listed down there you can send stuff over I checked my PA box with some regularity and random things appear there we're gonna unbox a few those right now now this actually came in last week and I had no idea what it was or where it came from it's from mouch in China and China like untracked know and it said underwear on it so I thought what is very-- it's this it's under way it's is it your size it's very lacy it'd be really creepy if it was like your exact waist size it's like how should think so I is this actually came in last week I immediately brought it back to my wife to be like this was sent by a fan okay this is so so did we get a real-time demo is it gonna be all registry I don't know why this has arrived or what we're gonna do with it or anything of it for whoever did send that we have a letter here this is from Larry mr. Larry uh he's to say hello Paul this past year I got into computers I've learned so much from you and Kyle I have two questions first as I just finished my first build a asus prime v 450 plus and a risin 320 200 G that's a nice solution there I use the factory CPU fan but later swapped and swapped it out with an aftermarket fan from be quiet now the question well change of the fan I pulled the CPU out of the socket does this hurt anything no pins are broken it receded and I had my CMOS cleared and it booted reason I asked this question is now I'm scared to remove the fan to make sure the thermal paste is good it maintains 25c at idle and 52c at load next what let me answer your first question before I move on to the next one you're totally fine yeah risin risin heatsink there so the rising heatsink fans which are good I mean they're not awesome but compare them to Intel's stock heatsink fans and they're significantly better they have upgrades like an actual copper slug at the bottom that's much better if you heat dissipation right and I like that they just have a nice clean black fan finish like you can install it and it doesn't stand out and look matches with IDs or anything like that yeah these are somewhat aureus though for the stock thermal paste that's pre applied on there it's like glue so I've seen so many people go to remove these and pull the entire CPU out of the socket it's not the best I wouldn't want to do that if I could avoid it right you can't avoid that by pulling it off while it while it's warm you can either run this run the system for a while turn it off and then pull it off immediately while single arm to you can give a little twist I've seen people take hairdryer and pointed at it just to warm it up and loosen it up as well but honestly even if you pull the whole CPU out as long as you're pulling straight out right up so you don't bend or damage any of the pins you can remove it clean it off drop it back in I have I have been to pin or two from pulling it out that way at an angle and not really being conscious of of doing it straight up so it is a serious concern so as long as you're pulling it straight up or if you're heating up first you should be okay and if you do bends pins on a PG a processor like that they can be bent back yes you have to be very careful it's not for the faint of heart but you can bend them back get everything back to where it should be and reinstall it and use like a razor straight address and from everything you're saying here 25 C at idle 52 C under load you're good it's really no need to check your thermal face you're totally good next question is I want to build one more and I want to use an ASIS prime X for 70 Pro is this a better board so Larry I would my question be what cpu are you gonna installed in that in that x4 70 Pro we often recommends the the 50 series motherboards which would be B 450 there's also be 350 because you can still overclock with them and one of the main advantages of the higher-end like an X 470 is two-way graphics card support but most people really never do that yeah yes some of the higher-end boards do have other nice features sometimes they have better power delivery for overclocking higher and see if you use and everything I would not recommend an ace whose prime X 470 with another rise in 320 200 G and I would recommend an X 470 if you're thinking of something like a 2700 X or a 2600 X something you're gonna like overclock a bit other than that you're probably gonna be paying more for extra features and your power delivery and stuff like that that you're not gonna actually make use of he also says I'll try to send you some cookies next time because I don't know if Kyle shared or not did he say police which cookies Larry sent you cookies you didn't share I'm concerned that he might have sent it to my P o box after it oh right Larry we're having done we will absolutely your cookies Larry yeah please resend them because I don't think I'll ever know the old box is no longer active okay so if you guys want to send anything right now seven to Paul it's my video box yeah and you're gonna do another one at some point yes okay eventually we'll update with that yeah what do we got here okay I just opened this is from Alex W from Minnesota I'm guessing that's bent MN and Andrew W oh sorry Andrew W oh my gosh there's a thumb screw on 100 my god Oh whose RGB blocks there's little like toy blocks like maybe block that's an RGB these are really cool Andrew halls cutest oh man Oh Paul's cutest fan the baby bottle and a bottle of beer to buck this there was so much thought and love Wow Ord into these shoes like this this is this is awesome that's gotta be the most endearing gift I've ever seen Andrew this is amazing thank you so much and I can't the letter to we're totally oh here here a letter somebody gonna read that we got okay however much you want Andrew said Andrew and Elizabeth thank you congratulations on having sex yeah everyone everyone should be me I've done the deed and growing your family that's good - I've been watching your content since the new egg days always found you to be the most relatable to my interest and an incredibly level-headed guy which is highly appreciated in the outrage media clickbait era we find ourself - thank you I appreciate that you've absolutely my wife is the creative type and wanted to make you something special for your exciting times this month we hope you enjoy them we wish you and your wife all the best in your newest adventure we know you'll be both be fantastic parents sincerely Andrew and Elizabeth and it's at the bottom of says don't real read live beginning you should put at the top of of your letters with there's nothing bad I'm sorry but still Andrew you gotta put that at the top you know if you don't want us to read it live but thank you so much I like seriously oh my god cool this is amazing I'm gonna show my wife and she's gonna be she's gonna be blown away to RGB okay I want a baby wifey sauce make a baby we got one more we have one more okay this one's from oh it says please be careful loose items this is Billy Billy Coates this is recent yeah because we I missed I missed the first first one give your Spyderco the Spyderco shirt it's packed well it's packed well you know gotta commend the guy thank you the exact same okay sexy time for Kyle alright Billy let's see what you got that might just be for packaging magazine might be a letter here oh wow it's like the internet is throwing you a little baby shower this is Oh Billy Billy wrote a lot Hey it's Philly first sorry about you're not getting my package in time also the wife and I would like to congratulate your wife and yourself on becoming parents oh that's cute little tutu onesie you hurts Oh elephants we also have some other festive animals glorious oh yeah little unicorns like internet internet either corns so Billy has four kids wow oh wow congratz billion on your four kids my wife has two from others and now one with me I have one from another plus one with my wife and I had together they all range in age from nine going up to two one two girls two boys Parenthood is amazing wouldn't trade it for anything pretty sure you're going to be a great dad to your daughter I really really hope I am oh my finger may be small but I got daddy wrapped all around it [Laughter] speaking from experience they're still my wife's belly and that very applies there anything I'm ready sure you're going to be oh wait here's also I wanted to say thank you for what you and Kyle did you do on your show you've inspired me to finally bite the bullet and build myself my own PC I build peace fast for others but not myself so this past Christmas I took about fifteen to sixteen hundred dollars came up with a nice system for me components include a rising 727 index a master liquid ml 360 our RGB l1 and MSI X 470 gaming Pro carbon ATX motherboard G still transy RGB 2 by 16 geeks 3200 speed rim excellent pairing for that CPU yes memory sets 3200 in the bios of course samsung 860 Evo and that to say SSD msi radiant rx 580 Bakic armor graphics card nice Thermaltake versed j25 tempered glass RGB case and a see sonic 750 watt focus platinum Paris flight so you're building in January first love the system so far I went that route so I can approach so I can upgrade that so I can upgrade later on down the road anyway sorry for rambling inside your package you'll find some baby clothes with the wife and I picked that for y'all and a car seat cover to help your baby grill so this is the this is the car seat killer cool to the Gold Bug I love that it's very nice yeah it's nice little canopy little baby canopy very soft and look at these I like the pattern of hard yeah we've got some embellishment and they even have little back pockets for like the tiniest smartphone in the world that's so cool I'll have to get hurt it's a smartphone babies are just like pcs you just get to accessorize okay that's included a knife for you from me that I think there's a little better than the one you use now it is slightly alarmed to find out there's a knife is that switchblade it's a switchblade these are illegal in the US this is awesome I don't think does it legal no they're not that's pretty cool though the only switchblade I own is the one I bought from Taipei because I couldn't file in the u.s. ah this is so cool I hope your wife and my kid yourself enjoy everything and enjoy parents parent parenthood thanks Billy cooks Billy thank you so much thank you for resetting this if this is muscle jarring shipping combo in the world switchblade with baby cocks we got some clothes for your daughter and we got a knife yeah get all that nice and sharp too it's not a switchblade because it's assisted opening it's an assisted opening knife whatever you want to call it yeah I didn't know that was a all right well thank you Jeff for correcting us thing and thanks Billy for sending us illegal blade that's awesome all right guys your wrap we're ready cut we're gonna continue live streaming though in the after party so let's look at the description click it there join us we're just gonna answer some QA and and good stuff like that thank y'all for watching hit the thumbs up button on your way outs and we'll be right back adios