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recently most notably the rise in 727 hundred which is available on Amazon for er $20 Wow not currently in stock but ships in four days I guess you have to wait that I mean this this went up earlier today so this usually goes for as much as 300 but usually around 250 or so that's about a $30 price trap which makes it very even more compelling than it already was this is also on comes with the Wraith spire which does a bit better job of cooling so get this overclock at a bit you'd basically have a 2700 X right in that range so that's good deal that's not all though 2600 is still the same that's been 165 for quite a while which is still a great deal 2600 X though is down to about 185 if you get out on new egg so that makes that brings up the question 2,600 2,600 X you get a bit more clock speed you do get a the rate spire with the 2600 X as well 20 bucks more that's a trade-off you can get it if you're not overclocking and you want better cooling but I don't know you can get I mean if you look for deals the the hyper 212 Black Edition I got that for 30 bucks I was on stuff for like 22 or 23 what the rebate it was with a rebate banana yeah and the 2700 220 and then the 27 X I guess 290 that's not the greatest deal 2700 seems to be sort of joining the 2600 is like a really really nice sweet spot sleeping you for yeah what uh hurt equivalent what's the 9900 case still floating at ninety nine hundred cased over well over 500 usually 52525 last I looked at it which is a lot more the 9700 K which is an eight-core non hyper serrated CPU which the 2700 is like very comparable to it's it's it's a little bit behind it especially if you look at looking at single core performance but it's more than twice as much or about twice as much $410 this is a 220 no comparison there so a better value this could potentially means n2 is coming we've been talking about rumors for Zen - it's supposed to be seven nanometer a little chip --let's and might have as many as 16 cores and 32 threads on a single little am for socket processor but we don't know exactly when that's gonna happen so right not too uncommon for the order for price cuts for the last generation leading up to a next generation launching helps clear out inventory and everything so if you can't wait then that's that's a good deal going along with that Zen to the Zen to rumors we have X 570 some more rumors of that this is from video cards accom and this is just a text list of motherboard SKUs that video card says they received we've received a list of upcoming X 5:17 ASUS motherboards for AMD Rison 3000 series there they all are including the crosshair 8 formula crosshair 8 hero as well as Wi-Fi edition crosshair 8 impact mini ITX cool we got some Strix boards we've got some prime boards we got a Pro workstation board we got some tough gaming boards in there too so Asus you know not to not very not too surprising to see all those but I would say nice hopefully like that impact will come out you know close to launched that's something that asus has kind of been known for delaying a little bit right um but also a popular form factor for people when I build a little tiny computer with ace that's a new one 578 I think the ACE is like more oh no that's a workstation oh okay workstation yeah Road right ws usually workstation for you so maybe they just maybe they just got the ACE name for work their workstation line yeah not sure it's a new one as rock we've already kind of talked about this but asrock also had a bunch of x5 70 series motherboards leaked that was through the Eurasian Economic Commission website so those are all listed there they're all on a jumble of tech stuff so it's hard to kind of see which is which but you know I guess some in summer x0x 570 pro-4x 570 Pro for our to look they have the the pro 4 and the revision to come out at the same time that is thinking ahead there as rock-headed themselves x5 7 TM Pro 4 actually the well we only know of the x5 70 chipset according to this the like the be 450 and be 350 some of the budget issues all right I'm sorry as Rock Pro boards there are actually some good deals for what you get for the price so something you might anyway what are they gonna call the the budget boards be 550 it looks like when X 5 70 comes out that will be to kind of go along with the new CPUs I mean assuming these like screenshots are accurate at all and that X 470 be 450 and I guess 8320 will still exist ok so and and replace they've also been stuff like MSI had the BIOS update that went out that said it was for rising 3000 series support and everything so like if my my guest right now based on all these rumors and everything is that there's something like you know you need an x5 70 board for support for the highest end chips but then you still can use x4 70 or be 450 for other ones I don't know we'll see what kind of a trade-off you get there I have to imagine that and hopefully for people to learn especially if they're going for 16 core a butte Mike why do you need to be 450 successor though I guess my new models new design I can see updated be 415 chipset motherboards coming out from manufacturers with may be updated power delivery if that's required for the higher court count CPUs that would be good something like that but I mean it's not really necessary if being for if it's not gonna add features right now yeah it's true x5 70 might be more features oh well X I'm sorry x5 70 is supposed to have support for PCIe gen for it so that's that's the right thing so I don't know I also get excited to see new board designs and stuff yeah that's is they you know because they change from gen - Jen's and how many be 450 builds have we done in the last 2 years or last year - a lot a lot so good chipset is excellent entry-level chipset board and this is slightly eyes to the side when it comes to talking about AMD and the rice and stuff in general but like I really like the longevity of the platform oh there since the 300 series I am going to be doing an update on my htpc built at some point and that is a at some point that is an X 370 motherboard yeah that I need to keep using because it's got am three mounting holes and the passive cooler I have needs them and it's not it hasn't been updated right so I need to use that motherboard it's nice you can swap the CPU and still good I could still upgrade to a second gen rise in you know a 2000 series right now if I wanted to and not no not yet completely sure but there's a chance I might even be able to drop in a third gen rise in CPU and write out system but we'll see it's the perfect showcase of of wide open platform like that's nice okay so that's that's all that's all we have to say about that I'll do that the oculus rift s you gonna get one thing out of these no no I've got buying anything VR in a very long time no VR not excited I've not even using my current VR headset I didn't really want to get my VR setup back setup because yeah like I'd like to jump in and play beat Sabre oh yeah I've only really tried that once it's the only game you need I've heard and it's it's so fun you know but yeah the rift s successor to the original oculus rift so not like the oculus go which is a more budget kind of standalone thing this will connect to requires a computer to run it and everything like that good we need to require computers more often yeah but it's uh it's it's new and different and update its gonna be $400 it's arriving in spring so that's not too specific but I'm a TechCrunch article which is linked in the description along with all the articles I'm discussing today it has sort of a bullet point rundown of Canada updates features biggest improvements are a move to the new inside out insight camera tracking system which has five onboard cameras on the headset itself so you don't need any external thing to you can just you just use it checks you don't need any like lighthouses or no it just replaces all that yep it just just looks whatever at as what's around you and and tells how you move around and stuff like that that's awesome so that's cool a little bit of an update to the resolution each eye is going from 10 it used to be 10 80 by 1200 now it's 1280 by 1440 it's a bit more resolution but it's also dropping the frame rate from 90 Hertz to 80 Hertz so that means that the PC requirements are still largely the same but the article says you might need a faster CPU depending on your situation this new headset was built in partnership with Lenovo so there kind of says that's a maybe a plus but also maybe a minus because they weren't really super happy with the kind of more plastic knee design um but whatever they go excuse me it is shipping what's updated oculus touch controllers it does not have on ear headphones that's using the near ear speakers that the oculus ghost started using they greenlit this design only after a more ambitious redesign was cancelled so not sure how I feel about that like keeping it cheaper so more people can buy it that's one thing but a more ambitious design like I mean that's that's fun I'd like to see what they had in mind it's $400 otherwise and that it's an ambitious price yeah 40 bucks is still a lot of money for a lot of people considering the you know that's on top of the price of your PC but it's definitely a lot more accessible than the original price of the oculus rift which sold $800 oh yeah if you got the rift InTouch combo together so there you go there's a bit more stuff about it on the oculus rift website and I'm sure everyone's gonna buy it there's a notifying me thing on the page TechCrunch said the rift s is more expensive but feels cheaper with lenovo's hard plastic design so hmm that's that's a shame that it feels cheaper than the go feels cheaper than the original oculus really is which which does kind of suck getting something like that but less expensive who knows maybe it just feels like that and it's actually really durable and it's gonna last a long time sure that's complete speculation like a condom but I can say it anyway move on to my next segment which is oh joy oh yeah back oh wow bring back some oh joy so you are ending on this is the badness but you were talking about and as I warned you guys earlier a good thing we have extra Beauty err bad in it then the Oh dry segments is bad news with no resolution or silver lining or anything like that so just pure pure that's what we're here to talk about now so of course the number one topic for oh joy the EU has passed article 13 it's even an unlucky number and births are terrible it says they renamed it to article 17 but I don't know is that that's just what the article says they decided to go their partners were talking about it recently isn't calling an article 13 this is something that I think in the u.s. you might not have heard about it all because it's an EU thing but this has a lot to do with copyright and protections and in particular how the internet works because on the internet it's very easy to go and take that picture or that video or that song and copy it onto your computer and you know then re-upload it somewhere else or maybe make your own thing a derivative work from it and there's a whole wide range of abuse case scenarios in there and on one side of it you have people stealing other people's content which is wrong and on the other side of it you have new unique works being created which should be encouraged yeah nice and I stogie there I'm trying to eat this very slowly so that it's not loudly in the microphone that were mobbed up yes yeah article 11 yes is also included as part of this but just a few facts about the matter this was approved I believe yesterday depending on your time I think yesterday in Europe at this point approved by the European Parliament three hundred and forty eight votes for and two hundred and seventy-four against this has been going on since 2016 when it was first voted on there's been a lot of controversy around it and a lot of influence because you have some pretty heavy hitters I'm sort of on both sides of it's kind of pushing for Pro this and anti this the pro this is largely the rights holders for creative works so the music industry is a big one and in film industry RIAA I believe also involved there and pushing for it on the other side you have companies like Facebook tube and Google which large internet companies which often aggregate contents sometimes redistribute contents and they have been pushing against this because now that it has passed those companies such as Facebook YouTube and Google that hosts content on their websites will be responsible for checking all uploaded content for copyrighted material that is from article 13 that's so the question the question that you must ask yourself if you want to try to look at this from an objective perspective whether you're hearing about it for the first time or otherwise is is this copyright directive meant to empower creators and news publishers or are these draconian rules that are a threat to the freight to freedom of expression I don't think it's an easy or simple answer I would lean towards this is a bad thing if you want my personal opinion I like I like the ability to the the thing that pops up on the internet very often derivative works this has often been called it's it's it's kind of a bit of an oversimplification I think but calling it like a meme killer because memes right it's like a you take a picture you know like the say I've seen very often shown the that you know the dude with the girl and like the dudes looking back yeah yeah the girl and Nick and his girlfriend's like I add some captions and take something out of context and use that is a copyrighted photo right so according to this law the copyright owner of that I'm sorry according to the this directive I guess would be what it's called the copyright directive any of these websites are now responsible for blocking that being posted if it is if it is copyrighted content also involved is just the fact that the Internet is far too broad and expansive and has too much content being thrown around on it yeah for any for it to be reasonable to assume that you're gonna have human eyeballs looking at everything so there's gonna need to be some sort of automation going on here so which is gonna suck right now we're to deal with that yeah so the the most direct example of what will sort of I guess need to happen to comply with this in the EU and potentially beyond there if other countries try to do something similar to this is that is the YouTube Content ID system which automatically has a database of existing content and if you put something else up and it's recognized it's like oh that's the flagged because that's already been used somewhere else and it can be a song or it can be video or anything like that so so is that gonna be more strict perhaps in in the UK more strict than it already is like it's more aggressive of an algorithm that goes around content I deem you know anything that's even remotely suspicious because obviously like you said there's no way that manual review could be to be had well the the problem I think we'll be alright so either either we're looking at a bunch of the kind so if you're looking from our personal perspective stuff that we post like this this show for example in this show we take articles from the internet we show them on the Internet I'm still showing by the way lots of lots of chat conversation everything we show those articles on the Internet and I think there's something to be said for the writers of articles like researched original contents because that because researched original articles are repurposed all the time yeah we're doing it now to some degree I would argue that we you know discuss it in context and hopefully add our own opinions and we do a we make some sort of change or modification to that I try to be thorough by posting links to everything that I discussed about there that we talked about so you know if the original content creator were to stumble across at the back I well they'll it's linked in the description I think there's a reasonable level of attribution and everything that can go on there but according to this if we do anything beyond like individual words or very short extracts then news aggregators will be required to pay for snippets of articles that are taken from places so there's just there's just an incredibly wide range of implications and applications to this law in general and it's not good news if you prefer that content to be freely distributed online and I say that without any attempt at like and I say that knowing that there there is like I said at the beginning of this discussion there's kind of both sides of it I think the answer lies somewhere in the middle I don't think it's something that's easily like you can write a couple sentences about and say all right here's the law that's going to take care of that but ultimately again I feel my opinion I think the passage of this is a very bad thing and we're gonna have to wait and see how this affects youtube lots of other sites like YouTube Google how it affects stuff like our show it's entirely possible that this show might not no longer be available in the EU not necessarily right away what will happen next is the EU member-states will need to accept the copyright directives text and then they will have two years to implement it so I'm sure some EU Member States might do that more quickly or less quickly but if you're seeing stuff happening today by the way that's probably not the immediate result of this if if that's what you like I complained on Twitter earlier about a copyright claim that went out on my channel this morning I don't think that's because of this is it in effect now starting now know that you new member states need to accept it and they have two years to implement it oh I see yeah but it's basically like it's been voted on it's yeah it's gonna happen so Dan yeah so that's crazy how their phrasing this or pitching this as a win for creative types that's that's the argument for it because on the one hand like that would be the like for that would be the argument of that the massive corporation that owns the rights to millions and millions of various pieces are the creatives they're the creatives because they bought that or whatever than they and they yeah so that's ass backwards right there so that I feel like that description when it's coming from you know a huge media company isn't that what it was pretty disingenuous yeah so I think the underlying I think the underlying point there is true yes people who create content unique content should be compensated for that and they should have some level of protection for their work just being stolen and reproduced elsewhere that someone else is going to make money off of it without them benefiting from it so it's theoretically meant to address that problem but it's it's doing it in a way that is much more favorable to large companies that holds that whole massive amounts of rights to various contents okay let's see if people are saying VPN VPN is is an option absolutely but you know you can use VPNs in China for quite a while and then they were like oh maybe we should just outlaw those because people are using it to break the law so who and outlaw the law breaking tool if if the e is gonna do this who knows if they'll take it that for or anything that's crazy yes dammit UK okay so yeah definitely free speech is is at issue here as well especially when it comes to the news articles that's another fact of this I apologize I can't dive deeper on this right now guys so feel free to check the alright I only posted one article in the description from a gadget on this feel free to do your own research just bear in mind there's a ton a ton of misinformation going around about this right now so use your judgment and think like yeah when you're reading something it's it's usually pretty easy to tell where the writer is coming from if they're trying to push one side or the other right and then there's also lots of articles where they're trying to be very diplomatic about it sort of lay out both sides but like I said I think I and many of you in chat will agree that this is a bad thing yes why it's a no joy statement if that wasn't a tip all right charter is getting sued poor charter you know how we usually talk about Internet Service Providers kind of in the negative side here but poor charter is being sued by a bunch of those big companies that we talked about that Oh own rights to music and music music labels Sony universal and Warner suing charter because they're claiming that the cable that charter profits from music piracy by failing to terminate the accounts of subscribers who legally download copyrighted songs the lawsuit also complains that charter helps with subscribers pirate music by selling packages with higher internet speeds you've got to be kidding me that's a great pirate image there for the article - Oh perfect um this one's from ARS technica by the way and there's no way isn't that what you want more internet speed Kyle okay so I can get all those pirated software's that much faster oh my god why I mean there is no other reason why no one would want fast internet other than piracy clearly vets intent so obviously this many legs for this lawsuit to stand on coming from Universal Warner subsidiaries the complaint was filed in the US District Court in Colorado Charter has a copyright policy that says repeat copyright infringers may be disconnected but according to the lawsuit they have failed to disconnect to those repeated infringers in practice the music labels are also asking for statutory damages of up to one hundred and fifty thousand for each work infringed these alleged violate this occurred between March 2013 and May 2016 under the DMCA ISPs can't be held liable for Internet users copyright infringement of the ISPs error I'm sorry if the ISPs adopt reasonable adopt and reasonably implements a repeat infringe or policy so Charter says they did that the music labels say no you didn't and now they're in now they're in court about it the law is apparently a little bit vague about the actual steps that the ISPs are supposed to take so there's no there are no winners in this circumstance because even if the even if the music labels lose and charter wins and charter I mean and maybe you have charter and you'd like him but they're one of those but they're one of the big ISPs that doesn't always doesn't always act right moving on though one more thing to talk about here this is news from the Asus side of things motherboard vice.com it's the article Kim Zetter wrote it ASIS software updates have been pushing malware to hundreds of thousands of customers according to this article and this was done through the Asus trusted automatic software update tool crazy this was discovered by researchers from cyber security firm Kaspersky Labs and basically attackers were able to compromise one of the one of Asus servers that handles updates for its live software update tool then this was used to unwittingly install this malicious backdoor on PCs that's connected to that server to get the Asus live update I believe these are mostly laptops that were affected so so bear that in mind the Kaspersky report estimates that half a million Windows machines were affected that's 500,000 those of you who want me to do if you want to see me I was about to go to Google transient see me do more math in my head follow me it all and make a new youtube channel for that weird thing about this though is that it seemed like they were only targeting about 600 of those actual systems because the attack had a bunch of MAC addresses that were coded into it so they were looking very at they were looking for specific targets huh half a million in fact that systems 600 of those that they were actually looking for theoretically what's on a system if it found one of those targeted addresses the malware reached out to a command-and-control server that the attackers operated which then installed additional malware so this this adds this like very cloak-and-dagger kind of thing to it because usually when I think of like malware and attack or something like that I imagine like a hacker would want to do something that has a cast a wide net right you know yeah do something that you can try to get it you know two percent of the people who you try to get to reinstall your malware actually gonna do it anyway but now you're like what are these systems have in common how did they get those MAC addresses yeah I mean I guess there's ways to do that and why are they a target who are those people yeah are they he's whose employees or are they like celebrities are they celebrities or government people or something like that item YouTube no it's it's just it's I just had to speculate what if it what if it was you pal what if you're one of those MAC addresses I would feel special in a bad ways that'd be weird though I don't know why they would do that it's a lot of work to go to uh but yeah Kaspersky said that they notified Asus of this back in January and we're hearing about it now so that is disappointing Asus for their part has responded today according to them only several hundred pcs were infiltrated not 1 million or half a million they also say that they helped customers fix the problem they patched the vulnerability that allowed the Asus live update utility to be taken over and they have updated their servers after the attack they do have a patch I saw them tweet about it but you had like tweet to them to get the patch it wasn't like this that here go here too right to download it I'm sorry not to patched a diagnostic tool you can't download to see if you're if you're affected with the malware so I don't know how they're actually distributing that or if that's just the tweet I saw earlier today that wasn't actually ready yet so anyway not good news for Asus also no Asus that did the response to this they never even mentioned Kaspersky I just feel like this isn't that kind of like it it's like a common courtesy yeah thanks for pointing this out they brought is people's attention and usually when you hear stories about this and its public and they're like trained to you know fix things most of the time it's like you know we tried to tell them about this a while ago right didn't get anywhere so usually they're like alright well we're just gonna make this public yeah and then there's kind of that the clean up after the fact that they try to do so I feel like there's probably some saltiness towards Kaspersky from Asus like thanks for causing this fire that we now have to put out when in reality it's like dude they they probably saved you from from being in an even bigger fire had they not told you about it or had this just gone you know undiscovered it could have been a lot more than six hundred so it's just be grateful cuz Persky by the way are the ones who named this attack shadow hammer just sounds like a weapon in World of Warcraft that's like that or if it's the it's the weapon of the Thor Thor power supply the Asus Thor has a shadow hammer so that um it was Thursday X called the shadow axe no no this was Mjolnir was the hammer hacks the hacks axe shoot I'm nothing but if somebody and chats gonna say it in like two minutes no but yeah this is only like tangent star breaker Thank You Chet Jamie Jamie 42 wins that way this is only tangentially related and I only get Italy I know I said that you said genitally so I can say because genitals part of that wording have you done many Asus builds recently like those an asus motherboard and loaded up windows ten no not recently not like super recently with Windows 10 standard updates asus has a hardware ID thing that recognized in window that right that Windows Update recognizes and automatically prompts you to install software called thesis armory crate oh yes I have seen that no and I never install it I just don't like it because it's a pop-up that happens automatically with standard Windows updates I don't want that software yeah it's an engine that's this is not related that's that the armory create is not malware distribution - right unlike that but this type of attack is something that could be distributed in that same sort of way yeah I don't I really don't like that neither do I know like third parties advertising to make their windows so Asus just the software I like the Sun I'm sorry I like I seem to like their hardware recently a lot more than their software yeah all right that's all I got for today my half so guys we're gonna cut now we're just a trip to Cal safe if you're watching on YouTube the link is in the description if you're watching on twitch stay right where you are thumbs up button if you do this video 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