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where's and we should be live good morning good afternoon good evening everybody and welcome to pocket now live I believe it is episode number 19 and it's not the last episode next week will be the last episode of season one so don't don't be desperate we'll be back we're just taking a short summer break summer vacation as usual so everything should be all right but until then I am Anton denied managing editor and I am joined today not as usual but as usual in a tandem by Taylor Martin senior editor hi Taylor had a y'all that wasn't you Tony that was for you and I'm not gonna follow up with a question on that at least weapon action so you how are you today I am great I'm doing great I held up I'm I promised you a couple of minutes to talk about your new your new toy so before we start talk about your new toy well I would have gotten it if I knew I was actually gonna talk about it it's in the other room but I guess it's through yeah i think the controllers around here somewhere right there is i'll get the controller will do sort of savannah I God ok your Mac Atlas best yeah will do I haven't opened this controller so will will open this one really quickly um yeah so far it's great it's nothing I mean obviously it's not going to take from the likes of console gamers or PC gamers it's just a little lightweight android-powered gaming console but it's as you can see the controller is kind of inspired by the xbox controller but it's it's more of a way to bring game development for mobile to the limelight someone Syrian we are we are going to have a a coverage on this sometime in the near future um that's up to you yes yes we will we will hear I'm not sure how other people can see you but I can see like a frame every 10 seconds so hopefully that's only on on my end and while we are at the introduction Airy stage I would like to tell everybody that you guys can ask Taylor and myself questions both on youtube and um somebody is not needed to please please everybody who are in here and we are not talking to you meet your microphones if you have a question on youtube or pocket now posted with all caps so i can spot it between all the comments and the feed yes is moving constantly and how about we just kick this off right now and dinner please choose somebody to talk to well I will publicize the links on all the other social media channels okay i'm still like I think my internet connection is is on the fritz right now um but worst case scenario i'll be here on my own until you come back libby great want it well it'll be payback for that one time that I had to do the last 30 minutes of the show by myself all right let's go with um we'll go with Mac I have not ever seen you here before so we'll start with you how are you doing today hi I'm good how are you great give me well well yes here fine true okay loud yes loud okay not not too loud it's good it's a good thing okay fine so do you have any questions for myself for Tony yeah I want to talk about WWDC because that's the topic obviously so how how do you think you will see the new iPad ah the fifth generation you know redesigned slimmer thinner stuff like that I highly doubt it i don't think they're gonna do anything truly new this year probably more sorry again that's ok i will plastic um I imagine if anything if we see any new hardware there'll be new macbooks of course right now as well chica yeah haswell chipsets retina MacBook Airs which I will be terribly terribly jealous of yeah um and maybe maybe but I'm not putting any kind of weight into it maybe the the iWatch but there's rumor saying that it will have an event of its own apple is trying to get into this yearly cycle with the iPads even though they've you know kind of gotten out of it they heard and then they kind of fell out of it I don't imagine we'll see anything now because the ipad mini came out in october yeah don't worry exactly september-october so we'll probably see that yearly cycle we probably won't see anything it'll probably be an event to itself but yeah I would like to see the new thinner design because if you compare this to new Sony the tablet who was you know reviewed on your website hmm ah it's much slighter much thinner so it would be nice to see Apple you know going through the water tube it's waterproof exactly so there you go I don't need that but I would like to just jump in with with just a short short short sentence I wouldn't mind if we wouldn't see any new hardware at all I would I would still be excited to see only iOS 7 a new iOS 7's and I just lipstick on a pig and the see Tim Cook say available I don't know august one for everything beyond iphone 4 and above and ipad 2 and above and that will make me happy so I don't need new hardware the iphone 5 is a youthful the ipad 4 is a good tablet I just need a new fresh look of iOS and that's my two cents here well but that's what i really really want a new fresh look of iOS i was the iphone user for five years and i switched to galaxy s4 which is here by the way and it's nice it's laggy a little bit but they have some updates coming so that's good so yeah i would like to see some fresh anyways definitely yeah Oh which galaxy s4 is that that's the Snapdragon 600 model I live in Hollywood yet international wanna look at the lag edition yeah I don't like it there there is an update that I applied to mine when I was reviewing the AT&T model and it it almost completely eradicated the leg yeah there is one update you know since two days actually and it's available in Germany not important right now or us so yeah that's they say like fix its it's you know it's much better and faster so also nice ad for guys I had our video and out it is but I i cannot see anybody I can hear audio but I can see myself dropping in and out but if you guys see everything ok then that's just Google again and end up at the lay back and relax I can see perfectly fine so that's good yeah my face I'm getting that is you guys seem so I don't mind here I'm the host I'm just a guest yeah it just relax you know you're gonna do this to me again Tony aren't you yeah well every time every time he nervous here google is not working I bring it down man but back to you ya know the iOS 7 will uh I was going on somebody's dog going somebody's rubbing something I've been trying to identify that sound and and um yeah I'm not gonna talk about that let's move on okay that's probably my dog actually no uh which is my ciao ciao and that's the voice I can't do anything about that sorry I swear I swear it sounds it sounds differently over here no no it's not related to you no no no nothing like that I just messing with you come on its friday niggas casual time at least is right evening for me actually the same for me so yeah so i would love to see iOS 7 but i wrote an editorial unlike Tony I don't really care if they really change the software they just need to upgrade the the interface because iOS really hinges on application support so that's what its applications are great they are pretty much the best and we all know that right but i want the fresh look i want the new notification center to look better and funk better like on Android for example so that's one chemisty my only two wishes I'll be wicked we're gonna have to ask you to make out yourself okay um my only two wishes one is the the new interface which it's almost positive is going to happen to open api's so i can share to tweet but from an example in the browser set my default apps to change the keyboard mouse change the keyboard open api's but then then you run into the people who are like ah you just want it to be like android no I'd like options options are great sure they always good so how do you like your headphones I love them yeah me too lot of use they get a lot of use exactly so do you have more questions for us no just want to say you know I love your website love what you're doing so keep it up well thank you thank you okay all the best okay take care of useful and okay i don't i'm sure you know the drill maybe yeah well much need myself sure well when you're done I we ask you to drop out so another person can join sure no problem have a good time take care of it thank you my and dinner apparently so for me everybody is lagging but apparently according to youtube comments I am the only one lagging for you guys in the viewers so but in case I just drop out then the Hangout keeps on going on Taylor you know what to do and you're actually the only one this laggy for me as well now but if you drop out it doesn't go live anymore then then it means that the live is just over so without me there's no life ha before we go to the next guest I have a question from front pocket now and I'd like you to learn to try to answer it it says do you think apple will add lock screen widgets or more notification widgets and iOS 7 he says I am eighty percent sure about that they will do i lock screen widget what do you think um the lock screen widget maybe I don't know it depends on what your definition of a widget is sorry I'm trying to pull youtube comments so select screen widgets I would say maybe in the form of probably weather or stock strollers like what you see a notification center you might see those on the lock screen but in Notification Center there are so many more possibilities there's not a lot that you can do with a widget on lock screen as Android is a perfect example of there are some that are great but most of them are kind of limited in what they can actually do as far as Notification Center I'd love to see third-party widgets on here we go again third-party third-party third-party I don't necessarily want to use all Apple software all the time Twitter Facebook stock apps I'd rather use tweet bot in Notification Center but then again I never even open Notification Center ever it's like 5,000 notifications long by now so that's me it's kind of useless as in its current form so any protein Notification Center we'd great there's your wordy answer how about you pick our next guest too well I will try to solve some technical difficulties here okay I'm just be a comment on YouTube what are my headphones these are audio technica ath m 50s they're some of the best headphones that you can get under 150 bucks under 200 hundred three hundred they're just they're great headphones for the price so there's that audio technica ath em 50s as for the next person let's go with I need like a randomizer but yeah just close my eyes and pick one uh we'll go with Nicholas Oliver you have to mute your mic so how are you I'm great how are you reading are you we're getting something I'm from England echoing do you have any cables any Williams you have any hit to go again well I'm you seeing my phone is in my store oh I got it I can hear you but we're getting I can hear terrible terrible like a comparable waka and you just block it sometime later what you say Tony thank you Tom come you know me I will well it's trying to ask you to plug insane sounds and head back just look at him in five or ten minutes yeah we can hear you we can apply what you're saying yeah it's okay boy me really quick oh he dropped out okay alright then we'll choose um oh gosh I'm what I'm gonna slaughter this name anupam nuff I probably slaughtered that what's up how's it going did it bad that slaughter your name now you did it okay yes it's a rare occurrence are you I'm good unfortunately though uh hang out update didn't do at nothing at all oh yeah I gotta and I don't know what it was for it's probably some bug fix or something it brought my conversations to life yeah yeah I don't know how but it did so do you have any questions for us today uh no I'm just uh just trying to think like if in WWDC they try to because I just was reading a editorial by Steven about the I radio thing that they just apparently they have a contract with sony music apparently state yup I have a song they if they have that now so it could be like maybe the fall of this year maybe they could even launch I radio or something because they have the mate almost all three major companies running on it yeah well so that's like you get there Beatles on streaming yeah since they have the monopoly on the monopoly on the Beatles yeah it's is that something we've used I radio / Spotify Pandora or google music i would i would test it out using all access i would give it a shot there's nothing nothing wrong with trying something new all the time Oh God unlike Google Play where it's all us exclusive typing at least Apple get distributes all their products almost all over the world right away you know who was like almost conservative almost over their stuff yeah music is a tricky beast though yeah I mean is there there are a lot of companies out there that just don't like streaming they don't like selling digital copy still there still stuck in the 90s and love their CDs but yet digital music is a strange beast and for a watch on call it iOS 7 do you guys have feel that uh if there's not if it's what uh Anton said it's putting lipstick on a pig what would you do with that um I've already said that the just an updated interface will make me happy just because it's been six years since the interface has really been updated I mean they've added wallpapers folders Notification Center and multitasking and yeah but what happens if like it's like it's like exactly like what you add the prediction say it's just like a flatter version just flat you know what I'll tell you what will happen absolutely nothing will happen because about the only people who are tired of iOS as it is right now are our us the geeks are the media the users and so on your your sister my mother my ex-girlfriend or anybody else from the street who uses iOS they use it because they have a product which works out of the box without any tinkering and they don't really care about the relative icons or the notification shade which is a problem with in taylor's case-- they they wouldn't care so that's 99% of user base and us one percent I don't think we really really matter in this equation yeah I'm just curious if they're gonna actually what you just said earlier to the previous boy get open api's cut because so annoying after a while even iOS in progress of its life is getting annoying it's not gonna happen I know I ever say that straight up but Tim Cook said that he's not against it which is starkly different from from Steve Jobs Steve Jobs would just roll in his grave at that but Tim Cook said he's not against opening the api's yeah so that's a total difference there that's a signification that signifies a totally different Apple yeah if they do a complete literal over all the companies like it's almost to me like it's a because they're they're trend is not usually we're not gonna change that off yet we're going to kind of keep it safe and stuff but if they do a super revamp of the whole platform it's gonna be a sh gonna be interesting but it's gonna send me a shock to everybody as well because they just took your width or they're gonna take a right turn up they took off return you turn all to another direction yeah they I've said it and gotten some some negative feedback some some I raised some flames you know proud of the cattle and said that Apple is slowly turning into you know the new blackberry that they're they're just stagnant and they're they're too conservative to jump on changes and push forward because they want to play it safe and keep the people they have happy and and they're still gaining subscribers so it's of obviously working right now but how long can they ride that same wave that's the question yet I've always ask me they're just playing catch-up now you stood they were the leading dog but you're just playing catch up to me right now they do that in a lot of different areas though they'll revolutionize it at some point again we shot some it's it's gonna be a while haha yeah that's about that's about it all i have to say about it yeah so do you have any other questions for for Tony or myself no you guys do I just want to say like you guys do a great job what you guys do it every day and in and out so yeah keep it like you thank you have a nice day as well me too I'm weekend Thank here that I but alright is your Christian here a couple of questions at do I look and sound okay that's a relative thing good question from from YouTube Anton what do you think about these Nokia EOS leaks to be honest I was skeptical at the beginning but now I'm seeing more and more leaks showing or trying to depict about the same thing I have said it before and I will continue saying it I don't really care how to knock your iOS we'll look I don't care if it's gonna be this thick of a phone it's gonna have this big of a lens I just want pure view on Windows fell and that's and regardless of how it will look I'm going to buy it favor um what you keep talking while I find a picture hold on thanks question what is the current display on your smartphone what type of display I saw that question I didn't as probably resolution or or the type of this movie all right now I have a wxga galaxy note 2 so it has a Super AMOLED panel this is what I was on what device galaxy note 2 we're going to know too so that's that's right now your daily driver that's your main phone yep this is all I was gonna say about the use this I made that picture i called that out it's fake but there have been more realistic pictures of it too did you see the video from this morning no i didn't that shows exactly that camera hump and it doesn't look fake to me in the video at least i don't i don't think all of them are fake but that one definitely was how do you have two different light sources in it not affect both parts of the picture yeah but that exact thing is on video now oh yeah well let's see I gotta find my title okay let us move on I've seen somebody who I have not yet met who has left the debt awesome then let's talk to somebody else I have never met Carlos aponte I made I made your neighbor Latin sounding so I'm sorry for that it's okay can you kind of can you guys hear me okay yeah I can hear you I cannot see you but as long as I can hear you we're just gonna suppose this is ready I'm gonna see my complete noob um I don't use hang out very often so I'm trying to figure all this stuff out I apologize but um no all right we are at episode 19 and we haven't figured it out either so I'm actually it works i feel kind of bad but um I'm actually curious I I watched the d11 interview with um with 10 dunno he's got an HTC device and just received a notification yes how does mean isn't what ghum sound yes I should probably knew that I'm sorry I can spot boom sound even from a quickie hang up I was here to cross the pond he knows yes my own rings he hears it I was hanging out with some friends the other night and my my wife called and everybody is like wow that's not so loud and as I guess it's my awesome phone and you know like you guys said it's a conversation starter so oh yeah i was watching the 11 interview team come cook and I felt like I don't know if you guys saw the Q&A session towards the end but it seemed like he was kind of getting beat up a lot a lot of questions a lot of people from developers and things like that asking about different things did you guys watch that what's your feelings on it I have a feeling that that Apple wants to respond to you know like you said it seems like it's mostly the geek circle the media but they don't want to make these changes strictly for the sake of respond and maybe they're kind of gonna trickle it out so it seems like they did it on their own oh yes yes definitely they definitely move at their own pace they do their own thing and or it I should say it we've been talking about this a pocket now Apple does its own thing but um uh I don't know I think Tim Cook is he's I don't know the the expression is under the fire I don't know he's under fire I don't know what it is I don't know the expression but he's um the the in the middle of the spotlight right now because he's feeling some really major shoes and and if Apple's not innovating it's going to be taken as Tim Cook's fault as shed even if Steve Jobs would have ran the company and and done the same exact thing as it's doing right now you know he would been under less scrutiny because he Steve Jobs yeah so so Tim Cook is under a lot of pressure and it's it's really hard to say what's going to happen and I have one more question that's we're talking about iOS getting stale and kind of old and i agree i actually somewhere in my stuff i have a work iphone that i hate when I have to use it I wish they would just let me use my android but um do you what Len is Android gonna get stale I mean they've made some changes in tweaks but I mean how come how do you think they'll be able to keep it up probably not the pace are going right now because there's a Matias Duarte has been implementing change after change after change after change I can change but the way that the androids going and we've seen we've been seeing a lot of this since i 0 android is moving more towards being able to update the operating system without updating the operating system so updating all the absent services separately from android so everyone is on a level playing field and the updates themselves I imagine will slow down I don't know Tony we know you hate google um but the updates themselves we'll see probably become less radical and maybe only to improve the interface and the core experience as in how you navigate how you interact with the operating system so at that point when it becomes that will see it become more still probably a little bit interesting I agree I appreciate the time oh yes yeah thanks for joining us today thank you i'm i'm reading the group chat over here and tony's losing it so do you have any other questions for us no not very i was surprised i got in i kind of didn't have anything prepared like a speech or anything but just uh I just remembered watching the 11 thinking man he's just getting beat up at the media and I was just curious if anybody else called the same so I appreciate it thank you oh yeah so have a nice weekend and take care you two do you know say if Tony refreshes we drop off air so we can't do that um is do you have any audio Tony I don't think you can hear me yes I do you do awesome so do you want to pick the next person or like every word probably so I'm just trying to figure out what you are talking about uh it's like a game isn't it there's it isn't that fun happy one we're hearing that this is lagging from zach as well as anybody else having lag because i'm getting leg from Tony and Tony only you just just hold out just just just carry over carry on in case you you can hear everybody else probably problem on my end I cannot quit so just take it away all right um Zack you've been here since the beginning uh she could unmute yourself and I'm not even gonna try it not your last name I'm not even sneezing sneezing wow you should have heard Michael Fisher but you that yesterday i was on the UV he did it horrible I don't even remember I can't even remember how you said it amazing that what you said yes that's correct form using okay I won't forget that now how are you doing great awesome do you have any questions at a kiss you can't ask Tony a question because I he can only hear every fifth word so you can okay how can space a mile long enough he might be able to hear it um I thought that I was now I'll just say this I was wondering about the nexus 7 i'm thinking of buying a 7-inch android tablet to replace I've rooted Kindle Fire right here with Android for up to two I was thinking of buying at the nexus 7 but it's over a year old so what should I do if you don't want to go to the Nexus 7 I would definitely recommend looking at the note 8.0 as have one over there register pricey for me it's a little bit expensive there's a little more expensive um in that price range I could buy a nexus 10 for that much yeah but in that price range i would say yeah it's probably just a nexus 7 there's nothing really maybe except for the phone pad but I don't even know what Tony's waving the phone data yeah I knew he would I knew you would not everyone wants to take calls on their tablet Tony do they make a Wi-Fi only model I don't know I don't think so cuz I would kind of get exactly using your pc if you don't want to do they make a Wi-Fi model Tony I don't think they do because that would defeat the purpose it wouldn't be a foam pad then unless you could just be a pal yes you did voice over IP I don't know out um so yeah my suggestion is probably stick with a nexus 7 because it may be outdated but really the only thing terrible terrible about it is to display ok also um can I just ask a couple o ask / well asking about you guys as predictions for um like iOS 7 for ww see if there's gonna be our seven oh yeah no they're almost definitely be iOS 7 what do you think it's gonna be yeah that's that's the major question that nobody really knows the answer to I would I mean we're gonna see the interface change the question is whether that's going to be in a major way or if it's just going to go flat if they're just gonna take the icons i already have and make them flat and upgrade the the settings i air application what do you mean like make it flat like oh alright so well look at those icons right now they look kind of 3d and glossy um good point so for flat would be if let me get an exact here my well just just think windows phone 7 or Windows Phone 8 that is yes yes where the hunger is is glossy or anything I'm looking okay to see if I can find so I got something to show off this is if you ask if you had a phone to this this is basically the Tony phone yes um yes I switch my camera whore to you but i'm not sure if people can see you because i cannot so i will probably watch that take of the tony phone and the recording tomorrow morning it's like this plus this put together so so basically to go flat you're just taking out all the glossy unnecessary visual aspect and making it very stark and just flour cookies if you could do that with an appt nap I mean like just change your app icon Google is relatively Google's pretty flat this is the perfect example of going flat so the old man was was 3d and glossy the new and is just straight color okay yeah okay good I guess that's all okay thanks for talking with me oh okay I get myself a shout out like my Twitter yeah Tony could you lock the camera on him I don't know if you can even see him it is it is locked on him I have no idea but the recording will look like but it is on him ok my twitter my personal twitter is z SH bees zsc hme easy and then I run a i'm working on running a small tech website and tech you know i run it i'm a website and i have a a youtube channel it's table top tech one word te voet opt e CH so you go youtube.com / user / table top tech or um and also our websites table top deck blogspot com I'm working on it okay all right well you take care and have a great weekend okay see ya I need to turn this back on get out of there apparently I am back but who knows for hon so I have a question here from YouTube do you think most current Apple users will leave iOS if this next iteration disappoints my answer is short no no most people are happy with you I can hear myself echoing so someone needs to mute themselves if Apple will lose some users it will probably be from from the new users those who probably would consider iOS but since theoretically the new iOS will be the same they will probably switch to android or windows phone but current users I think personally that will not walk away from iOS 7 if it will be the same as iOS 6 most of them are already happy with it as it is um there's a question on YouTube for me do you think that Google will ever try hard to market their Nexus devices to peeled to the general public or will they always be a developer phone tablet whatever um they've been trying to do that more and more and it's failed several times now as far as someone blocked themselves I don't know how to happen oh yeah I don't know but they have done that before with the google or not google the Galaxy Nexus on verizon LTE model the sprint model the t-mobile version of the nexus s 18t model if they make success they've done it several times and it really hasn't worked that well I think to date I don't know if numbers will back it up but the most popular Android or Nexus has been the nexus 4 and then x 7 and putting them in google play and allowing people to buy direct from google in a straightforward very simple way has helped matters but it's probably not ever going to happen until you get one in a carrier store for a subsidized price at least not here in the states because people don't see that phones are worth five six seven hundred dollars they're worth a hundred dollars fifty dollars tuner bucks and that's it that's my answer okay let us talk to that person I wanted to talk to in the beginning who left and is now back Rodriguez I'm not sure if your first name but the one on the yellow shirt you're the only one three guys here you hear me yes we can't allow and clear I cannot see what I can hear you oh yeah hi hi where are you from today I drunk around yeah columbia awesome columbia WABC or or anything else and i have a question about WWDC go ahead do you think do you think the iOS will look uglier now that it's more flat because i think so well this is a tricky bug ago has its objective it's it's very much objective not in your opinion in my opinion I love flyer I love arc flat interfaces I mean I love it too but in the iphone i think it wouldn't look ask nice I don't know we haven't seen it um I haven't felt some some themes in cydia for a flat interface and they don't look bad but they also themes in cydia are pretty half-baked usually sue them I know this much and just just quickly I I have two opinions one as an iOS user who would say that I don't really care how iOS 7 will look like because I like it the way it is and one has a tech editor a geek a tech writer and I'm saying that I hope as a tech guy that iOS 7 will be completely different from iOS 6 mm that'd be nice iono on our question you had sure about the Sony event I heard some rules or seen some rumors that somewhere I don't know about a four point eight inch 1080p Snapdragon 800 Sony but everyone is wondering about the cigar Ephraim but what about the other one I think it was called name honami something like that yeah I remember reading something about that was it wasn't that the rumored phablet know as that still daddy konami's another one with that 20 megapixel camera such like that yeah I remember reading the rumors um I haven't really heard much else about it so I don't you think it's not gonna happen right um might I mean if it's rumored it could most most rivers have some hard truth like I can eat like there's part truth in any rumor but I don't think Sony needs another normal sized decent sized film because the experience that is still a good phone what the soul needs is oh yeah it's small compared to a fail but but what they need is something to differentiate something to to be different because if they come up with another phone after the Xperia Z is just going to another competitor for the s4 another competitor for new one and why not another competitor for the Xperia Z so if they come up with a tablet that would be a step ahead of Samsung because Samsung is slated to release the note 3 sometime in august or September so they would have a competitive edge here so I'm just hoping that they are coming up with a six-point something inch with stylus or not phablet and what i hopes about the tree luminous display can you repeat the question please what are your hopes on that tree luminous display that is my technology of funny yeah I have no idea what you're talking about and I have no shame in of them um i have read about it i really had not don't pay much attention to sony because their displays just haven't really been great yeah but that's just a marks truth I don't know I mean I mean look at the Xperia Z or as Tony says I Xperia said the displayable map is the worst 1080p display on a phone that I've seen by a long shot you can hold the phone at certain angles and can't read what's on the display like not even a sharp angle just a slight angle and it's just where I guess it's polarized that it's you can't see anything on the display it's it's bad the contrast is low the colors are okay when you enable the Mobile BRAVIA Engine 2 the colors are really really nice but that's only in videos and pictures so in day-to-day usage the displays really not that great it's the worst part around so I hey ok thanks for your time BRB yeah take care and if you could um just drop out of the chat so someone else can jump in oh yeah sure thank you have a nice clean a good buy you out the question why is Sony pudding so bad displays into their flagship devices and this is a really a good question because I know Sony can is able and and and they really can do great this place why is it a simple question they can't why is it so crappy on the experience and that's the question i don't know i mean their televisions are bad but their their phones displays are pretty awful at least the last two and i don't know about the tablet i didn't watch the full review from from i want to call him Tony but Michael why always want to call him Tony because what he calls him Tony Stark i guess but uh Michaels xperia tablet z review i I don't know about the display on that so well she said I I have watched the review and if you had not tailored please go ahead after this and watch it i want to sale i have watches missed the displayport shoe the display she says a display is good but sony is trying to compensate for for some aspects of the display with oversaturating and with very colorful wallpapers but overall it is very very super amoled like saturated and that is according to him and Michael love saturate the colors a good display this right here is the pinnacle of a mobile display the the contrast could be better the blacks aren't terribly but black but this and the HTC One and the galaxy s4 have probably the best displays on mobile devices I I wouldn't say the s4 has one of the best displays out there because not it is said I afraid I don't know I don't have I have a problem with super ambulance being saturated but Samsung did a great thing with the galaxy s4 they allow you to tone down the saturation to a point where colors look almost almost natural my biggest problem is that once I step outside of my room outdoors I can't see anything on the screen yeah that is a problem with the AMOLED but I don't know maybe I'm the only one who feels this way but when you tone down the s 4's display and set it to the natural screen mode is it just me or does it just not look or feel is nice like what in the operating system it's meant to look just just pop and look really cartoony turn it down it looks really drab and that's because you've gotten used to using the the phone the icons TouchWiz with a supersaturated setting use it like that for a week and then you'll get used to it maybe I don't know it just doesn't look optimized for for normal sector yell at you yeah your coal mine okay hold on um you choose okay I can't go with that question there was a question I was trying to find that I can't find it so the changes you're expecting for that I don't think we'll see the ipad 5 at WWDC if we see one this year it'll be with the iphone announcement in September ish but iphone or ipad 5 may be a new design I don't know I don't want to put too much into that because the design on the new iPads are the existing iPads isn't bad but I'd like to see the larger iPads have the same design as the ipad mini that i have in the other room and that's gonna be only happen yeah same thickness same shape i love that and the same colors as a black one like that would be great all black I've had other than that maybe a processor a bump but it doesn't really need it definitely doesn't need it the displays at the peak resolution so I don't know other than that iOS 7 and a new design probably not much you Tony if you have anything to add to that I would say that I really wouldn't mind if Apple would skip the ipod really needy iphone 5 and the iPad 5 and instead give us just the iOS 7 we all dream about but if I have to choose i'd say that yesterday would you yeah i agree with you the ipad any should land this looks to the ipad the big ipad it has to be much much lighter and much much portable because if you're comparing it with the sony xperia tablet z who is a 10.1 inch or somewhat larger than the ipad and it still looks and feels better about the iphone there's nothing wrong with the iphone as it is today so I'm just seeing a spec bump in iphone 4s with a slightly faster processor slightly larger memory slightly better camera slightly something slightly something and probably iOS 7 so slight slight slight and every sense of the word that's that's apples game so yeah I would if I have my way and Cesare is right on point if I had my way iphone 5s which or the iphone 6 i guess would be a much larger phone I can't really comfortably use the iPhone because it's too small I have big humongous matey Paul's and typing on the iphone is pretty difficult so if i could get an iphone in 4.5 4.7 4.85 inches i would be in heaven so to speak okay let's see let's choose somebody else from from the gentleman and ladies below Taylor please alright um I think I saw is it finish think I saw that this is his first time and i hain't no so let's welcome him you'll have to unmute yourself it's on the top right we can't hear you did anyone else hear him as i can not me if you look at the top right of the window there should be a little red button it'll say you're muted all right see if you can figure that out we'll go to someone else and try to come back if we can get you unmuted I haven't been here in a while Tony are there any new people I can't tell if they're new or old sorry oh uh I can I can tell you that uh cami doesn't have video but he's new and also as Aldean ease Aldean is also near the gentleman with the glasses in the middle okay um we haven't picked a regular yet would you like to do that or stick to new people up to you really okay your guests okay now I hurt my foot so I am now in pain too um we'll go with SL Dean I i may have slaughtered that hello how are you how do you do ah I was doing okay until I slammed my foot down and now sir like any moving with me I can yes yes I'm very far far away I'm from Jordan actually nice you're actually closer to me than to him yes and so do you have any predictions for WWDC actually I think that WWDC if I phone or App will want to do something new they have to enlarge their screen for the iPhone because it's small as you said and we have big fingers and begins yes it was designed it was large when it was made and now it's small so yeah it's time you compared to other phones right now you know like this for or the HTC One it's time guys let me ask you something you are complaining that the iphone 5 as it is now with a 4-inch screen is too small don't you think that that could be exactly apples niche I mean the iphone is currently the smallest high-end phone you can get and all the people who don't know large phones will probably go to the iphone how about that there's no reason that they can't keep a 4-inch phone and there are at least two phones they're not but they could I mean these two iPads we said they weren't going to make a small iPad because Steve Jobs said that if we wanted to make a small iPad we'd have to sell it with sandpaper so people could sand the tips of the fingers down so they created right so I mean why not it's it's a difficult samsung it's a different apple though Tim Cook is proving that i'm not saying that will but i would i would love it if they did because they're cutting out just as there in that niche they're providing a small high-end phone for people with small hands they're also cutting out all the people with bigger hands that have trouble using it yeah but not all the people like Apple you know but there is much of them and the most of the consumers this days want a bigger phones like this well I'm justice you want yeah this right here is is one of the perfectly shaped and sized homes the nexus 4 I and I love the size and shape really good that sure yes it's 4.7 inches and why can't you know Apple do that why not you know yeah like the health now most of the consumers as I said it want bigger phones so why not the Apple made a one big one small and have not a very trouble with the price like it'd be the same ole same ole but not as you think like let's see this for now we have the active we have the rugby stuff and we have the normal work right and the minute it is it is contrary i believe to everything what Apple is and represents throughout the history not now not under the Steve Jobs a robot as company Apple is not a following company Apple is the company that tells you what you need so you don't tell Apple what to do Apple tells you what you need and and as such I don't see Apple following a trend set as specifically by competitors Jesus whoa whoa whoa I can't remember where but I edit somewhere app customers pay us for us to tell them what they want absolutely i think that was from from tim cook's the 11 interview i think yeah it was something like that but um you say that but they also make several sizes and laptops and tablets there's no reason they shouldn't in phones there is no legitimate reason they should not make a different sized phone two sides agree um but I was gonna say something and I totally forgot it as I said but oh this yeah right I may have that um I'm gonna try to think this through mm them then bumping the size of the iphone 4s to the five going from 3.5 to 4 inches was half as ered at best I mean like from Taylor that wasn't quite a size that was for the aspect ratio yes it was it wasn't they say it's a bigger display it is technically but really it's only a taller display which means it's not really bigger because bigger in size of portrait devices moves wider because that's what makes it easier to use easier to type on their their way to gloss over that and kind of smooth it over was to say it's bigger but you can still use it with one hand if you want and you're talented and have meaty paws the size of mine you can use this phone right here one hand the note 2 I use it one-handed all the time just saying just saying Apple I have another question yes or you'd better first of all what you prefer the Galaxy Nexus or the LG Nexus from the side of the screens like the Emulex alexis or the l just like the nexus for Galaxy Nexus yeah well do know the the nexus for the Galaxy Nexus had a pretty terrible display I hated it from day one the AMOLED the Super AMOLED was very very pixelated you could see because it was pentile the grit the whites were really gray if you turn the display down they looked like parchment they look like paper rather than a display and that just it killed me killed me so there's that we don't know about that yes but between the two it would be hard to choose between design because I like the design of both of them even even plastic it felt much nicer than the plastic samsung uses today so there's nothing about using a windows phone in the future yes I have considered it um the thought of leaving google and everything I have and all the accounts i use and everything behind just kills me because i use google plus very frequently gmail calendar which i can get those on windows phone I use YouTube a lot which that's you know they're working on a new app but what are some of the other services keep just all these google services that i used a in a day out I wouldn't be able to use them so there's that but I would make the jump for the EOS camera I would do it fits as good as it's supposed to be it's rumored to be I would definitely use Windows Phone I would go back to carrying two phones I will we recently had in my country the nokia 920 recently just a few months ago wow we're really in this situation what we have android and i have a rooted phone actually it's not much but it's an android yeah well do you have any more questions for us actually I have one for Anton okay yes please let go where is your so good it opens your see me to hear you where's your cigar that's what I've ran out and i can't wait for for me to meet hi Mary vera in Berlin for e flat so that he can bring me some awesome endurance of ours thank you for this and I wish you the next time Thank You Santa care david awesome week thank you never um okay uh uh I see mr. James lanik here who I have not seen before so let's try dude I'm sorry I'm still finding cold let's try to talk to him James we cannot hear you but there's a here yes we got it all right yeah I've been trying to join this hangout for all my tablet I to figure it out ever since episode one and i have not so yeah so you're walking around a minute ago I kind of figured you were on a computer so what do you want to talk about today Jake um um I was talking up I guess I saw y'all talking about WWE see so I always think of you probably see the ipad mini 2 and not the ipad 5 because the ipad mini still doesn't even ever it in a display or an a6 processor stumped I'm thinking they'd probably upgrade that besides the I've I've had five because I fi forward has a Retina display and do you think they would do it at nine months versus a full year I mean that they have their their typical fall schedule now that they follow I don't think we'll see hardware not not mobile hardware at WWDC I would love to be wrong I would love a Retina display ipad mini because my ipad mini gets more use than probably any other mobile device i have but the display is terrible i am a pencil drunky and it's so bad I've seen on my sister has one and it's just I look at the pixels and it's just terrible i have a galaxy note 8.1 right now and i can and the display bothers me on that too look ya know the mid sized tablet sector is definitely the black sheep of tablets and they just don't get any love in the display area how'd you lose audio again Tony what is going on I say that you're getting frustrated I don't think you can hear me so do you have another question for me or a prediction or anything oh oh yeah I'll sink it um if iOS 7 is like the flop and a disappoints do you think most people will go for like Android or those stick with iOS and squawks only the vocal minority are really begging for a new iOS most people like my mother she's a she loves tech she's got more tablets than I do she has several phones but she is perfectly happy with iOS the way it is right now so I don't think so she's she's it along the lines of what most of the iOS users are in terms of being content with iOS 6 I think that's the only iOS lated question there's just one more it's not really related to WWDC yeah there's my contracts my contracts up around like October and I was thinking of either the Galaxy Note 3 when it comes out or the HTC one I don't know if it'd be really relevant what October um if the note 3 is out then I will probably have it I will most definitely own it but between the two it really depends do you want something that large you already have a note 8 do you want another device that's really close in size to that or would you rather have something that is defined as a definite phone yeah I was just wondering like how easy would be in a hold of one hand and if it would be like practical if it's around the same size as the note 2 it's it's easy one-handed I use a type one handed all the time you just have to learn how to hold it differently I hold it like this so it's very loosely used in my hand but I use it one-handed and can reach everything on the display so if it's around the same size it'll be fine if your hands are around the same size as mine which I'm guessing it probably not that and the one will most definitely be easier to use one handed so if you're looking for one-handed use probably i would say HTC one it'll have a higher density display probably a better camera well I don't know about that I take that back I've learned HTC One welcome back Tony oh it's good to be back all right so if you have another question for Tony or anything since he just got back what feel free to ask who knows for how long um no I think that's about it so ok I got a question for you can you guys hear me yes I can what I see a lot of nodding so I think the consensus is we can hear Tony I'll see that his face is turning red that's the first thing yeah thanks for joining us James if you want a we can have people follow you on twitter or whatever if you give us your handle you can not the camera on you but I wouldn't if I if I would know which thumbnail is him yeah well he old hag of anyway what I have a twitter account but I just use it to like look at people's tweets like famous people I don't really post on it so so your twitter stalker um yeah basically yeah all right well thanks for joining us have a have a great weekend thank you and we'll see you next week hopefully later please all right we're gonna go with a usual we'll go with donessa just because we share pain right now yes exactly hello how are you horrible I want to die right now but it's fine i'll get used to it wow it's pretty awful but um maybe talking about WWDC will alleviate some of that pain by making me feel more pain because i know you don't like iOS oh I really don't but I mean most of my best friends have the iphone and actually my cousin who's texting me right now uh she hates android because she had she every time to get to another phone she has a really bad experience and i think overall people that don't like I'm doing is because it's a little more complex than iOS and they're just so yeah I always ask you guys something I don't know if you and Tony know about but one of such best friends it's asking me and keeps asking me which cover is better for the iphone 5 the lifeproof the atlas or the other one incipio I think it is and I keep telling her is that so far is the lifeproof yes if you're looking for for quality and you know being water resistant stuff like that water of the lifeproof or otter box I don't really know of the incipio one there a lot of incipio cases I don't know and I don't know what the Atlas case I've heard of it but I haven't seen it or used it but lifeproof and otterbox I can definitely attest to their quality but I have a question for you yes yes uh what would it take at this WWDC for iOS what feature that would make you switch to iOS yeah nothing they could do nothing cuz i had a pass today I don't remember a fool but I heard my cousin telling me about um how they're gonna switch and do something drastic with colors or bring a cup of color to iOS and then I was thinking so instead of the generic great grayish blue gonna make you I don't know they're gonna give you the opportunity of Kenya to red purple or bad i mean it's iris is great i really like their devices the laptops at the phones but it's just that it's so clean for my taste in a way that i can't do i can't tweak it the way i would like to do it and my cousin Tom Brundage jailbreak and I'm like yeah but I should be having that option kind of full not just me jailbreaking the phone because I just I don't want to do that but I mean she's so if they if Apple put one feature in there that just put android to shame you wouldn't do it no because it's just one feature ok ok ok question question back right back at you thinner what's that one feature that we put android to shame I have no idea clue mind reading app or something that the app that tells you what you want because that would be the most Apple centric at possible yeah they do tells you what the application made by apple cold 1000 wish it yeah and you have to pay for it it's like like thirty dollars a month and it tells you what you want all the time like like a maple lab ok Google now Apple I've got google now which Tony hey Tony hates it I can't because not existent here so you're just jealous Oh relied was see read but then over time because theory beats out of the things that people will ask her it went straight to just completely us together don't drop the ice bombs sorry oops it's the truth I don't I'm gonna have so much hate for it and I get that you're an apple fan but it is what it is this is why I like Google now if I can show you this i have a google search isle of man TT um at some point last week like beginning of last week and i'm getting new stories automatically from sources i would never read before just because i don't really read use i'm getting news updates because i searched for it last week ok tanner I love you want to know and everybody do you guys want to know why I don't like Google now this ok this is my galaxy s4 and now i'm gonna start okay i'm gonna do it like this i'm gonna fire boooo now boom that's my google now whether let me let me ok this the keyboard is gone this is my google mail whether that's all here no more cards it's just sample cards that's all and when I get back I the keyboard goes away this is my google now so this dear google is why i do not lie your google now hold on let me turn the brightness up on mine so I can show you all right so if you can see this we've got maps I don't know if that is at the top maps Isle of Man stocks weather hey I got wet or too I just know this is a constant flow of stuff all the time so when you can actually use google now because of your geographic location it's great I feel sorry for all of you who cannot humble brag yes indeed okay so do you have any more questions D&S no i guess i'll wait for you guys to go to the middle pc hey what's gonna happen see what happens a good big thing I if there's that one feature that just wind you and you just swoon over it I will laugh a lot out loud well it's alright I don't pray because I like Android probably a little more than iOS but nobody knows that I didn't say that all right thank you for joining us you want to lock the camera on her so it is logs on her right all right have an egg a great weekend take care everyone I'll see you guys next week for the last last of the season yes don't cry don't cry I'll try thank you there may be a cliffhanger so you have to come back mr. Dallas Henley of the gun I can now actually hear you awesome headed home bar you from I'm from Michigan I'm Michigan and what do you want to talk about today I want to know what your favorite feature in Iowa today what could be the next big thing in Iowa hmm that we're off button sorry I had to I had to know um today my favorite feature in iOS honestly it's just the app ecosystem you want to consider that a feature because that's really it yeah the multi-tasking isn't great okay sorry go ahead Tony good no I was about to say I would a deer a deer to that but I would also say that i really like a quick way of updating your facebook status and tweeting from the notification shade and that is something which i really prefer and again the apps the way the apps look whether if it's on the iphone or it's on the ipad and the entire ecosystem and how well everything is interconnected and it just works that is probably the main feature which which I prefer on iOS hmm well the only thing I have to disagree with there is the integration the interoperability because apps can't work together and do things they have to work separately but i will say that my favorite feature i'm going to stim away from the app ecosystem and say that gesture support is probably the best the coolest feature because on my ipad 4 fingers swipe back and forth and go between most recent apps and closed with a pinch funny you should mention that and we we don't usually talk about this that much because we are luckily not in the case it's not the case but but iOS is probably the best operating system when it comes to accessibility options hearing impaired for for for those who have sight problems the blind so that I think that's the leading OS right now that offers that that is true but I had actually a hold on blind podcaster on Twitter that's the twitter handle blind podcaster I'm tweeted me and said at least on Android hangouts are a lot more accessible with talkback than voiceover on I was from a blind user of both well that depends is that a a limitation of the OS or is that a limitation of the hangouts app itself I don't know that I can't like we should check yeah but it'sit's interesting but yes iOS as a general rule is better for the hearing and visually impaired mm-hmm but we're off topic i think ellis go go ahead any other questions thoughts thank you so you think that um iphone app iphone net not really act on iowa and general has better app and android would you yes yes i do a lot of people would agree i tend to disagree but that's just me I'm not playing the devil's advocate but i just i prefer the extended functionality over the form the iOS apps are definitely prettier in most cases but android apps having settings built into the app instead of having go to go to a settings out and to toggle things and you know things like that it's just you know if you mean yeah nap Taylor what is your tablet choice I'm left now that the android is the iowa it's die pad mini is it okay yep no te on verizon that is my answer it now okay I think you got vape it on my question thank you you're very welcome and have a nice awesome awesome weekend ladies be joining us right take care Taylor please we have time for I think two calls h okay two calls each we're keeping it to the five minutes because that would be a first wait I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with another regular Cesare you've been here and chatting it up in the group chat all the whole time so how are you today even uh I kind of chat the lock ya see that so I want to start with a question for you actively I want to hear you're pretty patience 4wd beauty WWDC if it's anything that we haven't already talked about well I want to see how I always can get smarter I don't know how they can do that better that's what I was going to ask you what height x nowhere context-aware Siri ok so the big no-nos theory no I know and I'm stemming from it but the big divide between Google now and Siri is that Google now is context-aware it knows things it learns from your searches it learn from what you have installed all sorts of different things Siri is something you have to call upon you have to say I want to open you and I have to ask you a question but with google now it's not like that it's it's a totally different syren experience will assist them to have to ask for her to do something right so where I'm going with that is not only Siri but they need to improve Syria Apple needs to catch Siri up with everything else but I'd like to see them bring some of that context aware from google now to other parts of the operating system you open something up and it knows you want to search you open up I don't know i'd be there are a lot of ways they can make it smarter I'm than what it already is and one of those ways is to make like I've said before open up the api's and lets you share something to tweet by it or share something to gmail or share something to another third-party app from the browser to set default apps there are ways that that make it smarter than what it already is without a lot of effort that should happen I don't see why they don't make the api's go and just have the option to share to work with a nap regular it simplistic they like having to train ya know I conducts okay they have their own thing but they should help the other apps developers it's too closed out now oh yes oh alright so you were going to ask me a question or Tony now that was the question I want to know how I can you meet it as it's Friday they never it's Friday that's my excuse yeah i was thinking that widgets are android swing gestures hmm so and so at least on the iphone what can they do besides the ABS know something to the you are I don't know thank you said stuff I I'd like to see something different than the wall of icons all right Kenny Smith is going to have to stop you know aside from the fact that iOS looks the way it looks it has the static grid of icons yes I think iOS is is a very very very matured OS so in terms of features there's not really that many things which can be at it of course there could be added a couple of minor tweaks changes improvements but as as a whole iOS is a very much your OS cell hit me they'll have toggles toggles quick toggles in this in Notification Center where you can just tap from anywhere and turn off Wi-Fi or turn on Wi-Fi or mute instead of having to back out of what you're doing go to the Settings app find the setting and then turn it on or off for jailbreak like I ain zoo stuff all right Wow Cammy Smith please please oh that's the weights the way he's gonna be for the remainder of the skull he's going to come and go so that's what i have so about the apple event and I'm do you see what happens the next day I'll have an exam so I don't have to stay up with watch you should you should take Lucy pocket now because we will have the usual pocket now round table or it's not going to be a round table is going to be live coverage where Taylor michael brandon and myself will be watching the event with our left eyes and watching ourselves and you guys with the other eye and commenting on things they happen take someone does it look at the direction absolutely and we're the best at that okay so have a great show and a great night likewise greg egan take care man okay i think it is my turn let's talk to to whom let's talk two bedroom it's metal estima okay yeah you don't talk to carrie smith i have to by the time i see his name he's gonna be out anyways no pedo please unmute then let's talk hi guys hi oh you're from Brazil yeah Rio Rio that is very nice how's the weather I hope it's it's warmer than here it's a very warm that is good i want to move there what do you want to talk about yeah what talks about what do you guys think that maybe because everybody asks what will make people not go from iOS to Android and my questions it's exactly the opposite what do you think that maybe Apple can do to make people go from Android to iOS if there is something at this point in time I don't know free phones yeah well they already almost reforms I mean if the if maybe they not not them maybe not now or maybe later in the year they have like a larger phone if that's going to make them I'm not sure that's gonna be the solution you know better I think that Apple right now is exactly in that stage in which Microsoft was when Apple was taking hits at it I mean Microsoft had that that well established position on the market they had the so-called monopoly an apple was the new kid on the block was the alternative now Apple is the one established on the market and Android with HTC with Samsung and all the rest are the alternatives and they are all hitting on Apple's so I think that that the the balance is shifted a little bit over time yeah maybe later what do you think um stop typing or else we're not gonna be able to hear you it's of course when I go to be proactive Cammy Smith stops joining so I missed the question are you asking still about what no the question was what does apple have to do to convert people from right yeah and I said that Apple is in this moment in the exact same situation in which Microsoft was when Apple was kicking its ass now Android is kicking apples ass yes what Apple will have to do to get Android users to use iOS um file a lawsuit against google win and put Google out of its misery which is not ever going to happen so I honestly honest answer I don't know um maybe in an iWatch that really puts every other SmartWatch to shame but even then you're only talking to a small number of users who care about a watch that has notifications and apps and functionality when you have stuff like Google glass on the horizon smartwatches kind of a small little blip on the map so I think that we have now in 2013 reach a point where Windows Phone Android and iOS are so well established and they all offer their unique features aside from doing the same things that it's no longer about shifting users from one platform to the other but it's about fighting for new users first smartphone owners because I'm not sure a windows phone guy will go iOS or Android because they love Windows Phone and that's the same as valid for Android and iOS so I think that it's no longer a question of stealing users from each other maybe probably from blackberry or from symbian as much as it's a question of getting first times too expensive so if a new guy will never buy an iPhone that is a new guy so this it's the case around the world unless you are in the USA I'm here in in Eastern Europe and then I phone costs one thousand dollars but that's just Apple Apple is or at least they want to be all about premium and they they will tell you to your face if you can't afford us move away yes they don't they don't mind yeah yeah because they're doing so well pretty much everywhere else in the world are pretty much everywhere in the world yeah they're there they're doing well i mean android is far ahead in terms of market share but Apple is just killing everyone in terms of revenue profit margins everything but the only thing that really bothers me because I just love Android and I love mixing with custom roms and stuff but if when you go to accessories I mean the cases and stuff apple just kick it's because everybody makes beautiful cases beautiful lifeproof stuff but I just wanted I left yeah I know I I just want a lifeproof for my s4 and I may never see it I never seen on the s3 and never see on the s4 that's the only thing that bothers me on the android android because not the system yeah that's because there's one iphone a year and there is close to a hundred android smartphones per year if not more so what if your application it is yeah yes of course all right do you have any any other questions or thoughts or anything else you'd like to share with us not that's ok thanks a very very good pleasure to be here if you guys the pleasure was on our and i'm gonna lock my camera on you because i see you have your twitter handle right there so everybody if you want to follow bedro that's where you can find him on twitter better ok thank you very much have an awesome awesome weekend well bye take care my tire taylor final call of the day is yours all right i'm gonna go with Alex uh you're sure I don't know how to pronounce the last name you've been sitting there very patiently expressionless and and calm so how are you how are you you guys hear me yes you can doesn't me a stock paceman wondering i know this is an apple call of wondering about the HTC is too late to get agency one is the next best thing around the corner the next big thing is always around the corner but that's the problem it's a it's a catch-22 you wait it out and and pick the next best thing or the next big thing or do you just buy something now if you're cautious you wait because there is always something on the horizon but once you wait you're also gonna buy something and then something else is going to come out so my advice is to just get what you want now and try to look away with it yeah and try to be happy with it even when new stuff comes out that's how I've managed to keep using things like the Galaxy Note 2 or the nexus 4 I use older devices because it just doesn't bother me anymore looking at this 2 1 i'm like that's really a pretty high opponent that ages cream and the quad core processor is very fast and all that and also what we're gonna go from there and everything is really great i mean what else they put on you can't really chew off the course and 4k displays and twenty five megapixel cameras and better numerous better battery life we have two big things yep those are the two things that they talk straight to my heart if you have a phone that has a great camera and awesome battery life I'm sold that's the Nokia 808 PureView okay and it has to have a decent legitimate relevant operating system yeah and just keep on adding to the list symbian does not count anymore share accounts is got point seven percent of the market yeah that dropped from like eighty percent 2.7 in like two years I think that was one of Nucky as biggest mistakes yeah so and the apple uh-oh you call we call is it you guys don't think a visor come from there jbb software could you repeat the question I could I didn't get a leaker I at the Apple what he called a WC I guess you know WWDC I you guys not be any new devices will come from there I don't burn new macbooks but no new iOS devices that's my prediction that's what I Jenny what's prediction is yeah we'll see macbook pro or mate excuse me macbook air with a Retina Display new mac pros and probably no iOS devices are it said the iphones gonna release two iphones and have the five is funny but cheaper version and the six is going to be a hand version so you guys think is that the true that's just a rumor hi read an article what what i read an article that said that your article was wrong thing that most people fail to remember is that old models of iphones are still high end and cheaper you look at the iphone 4s now it's almost as high end as the iphone 5 just a smaller screen the cameras just as great by real life and everything is pretty much on par you just don't have LTE it's cheaper iphone 4 is just slightly more lightweight older than the 4s and it's even cheaper and you know on down the line so that's the the model that apple is created they don't really need a cheaper iPhone because that's what last year's model serves so yeah that's what I always said uh I would ask this question for a while now I remember I remember a hard copy was on your guys side I mean I'm not sure I remember that I think Simon hired some time with some students write that bad things about HTC it was like Vic I that's retro or like a like I think the HCI ain't government find them with something that I I think I covered a story as I remember it I i I'm here to follow about what happened it doesn't do disturbed and then do oh I have only followed the story up till the point where where Samsung acknowledged that they will no longer use and employ anonymous marketing policies and politics and and that's just about it so they basically not necessarily admitted but indirectly admitted to that but I'm not sure whether the Taiwanese government or the officials have officially find them with something or or something like this so I couldn't follow up on that but I know that HTC UK is right now very busy selling samsung UK about that and trying to find yours and ongoing there's an ongoing Twitter war between HTC UK and Samsung UK yes as we speak but but no matter what the result even a great fine millions hundreds of millions of dollars it's just a slap on the wrist of Samsung absolutely yeah but the 20 billion dollars or what what amounts i have read today that they had lost in their shares because some analysts predicted that that shares are going down because the galaxy s4 is no longer enjoying that buzz that's just I'm not going to comment everybody knows I hate analysts but that that might hurt if it's the case and regardless of what the cause is the stock went down and they lost a lot of money today I don't happen at some point when you're starting fleet I think that this would be my last question is that I mean I'll talk by 2013 all phones be waterproof by now but that's on behave of money how come my prize if I'm making waterproof phone like you know all of them by now all right yeah every show every phone should be waterproof right now but it's not the technology has been there for years and it's just not there it's not being implemented I have a company called Lake hope Ally order that you can send your phone in a day and waterproofing for you yep nada yeah that idea really a thing um if I'm not mistaken it voids your warranty though everything was your foreign to him because they open it up and they I think they sprayed them with that layer of whatever no coding yeah yeah so I mean that technology companies like that have been around for the better part of a decade really there was one back when I got my first blackberry I thought about doing it same exact concept but it's just not implemented on a large scale my only the only explanation I can find as why that may be hello Cammy Smith uh is because it's hard to work into a manufacturing process may be that it's more expensive than the payoff would be something to that degree that you know it's probably be there they are doing very very very small quantities they cannot make an autumn ization process in which they probably coat 10,000 thousands they just work by the order and the it's its manufacturer it's probably not on a huge scale like Samsung would need it on a scale of hundreds or at least tens of millions of phones and that's a big project when you have a small company like Liquipel at least I think it's a pretty small company looking at color compared to sams yeah compared to pretty much any company looking to do something somebody dancing um when a small company like that looks at a scale on Samsungs magnitude it's it's just totally different so because you could because if you look outside of the galaxy s4 if you look at the galaxy note 2 the s3 s4 the active the many all these different phones if they coat all of them that's hundreds and hundreds of millions of phones they would have to code what I think that the phone is still sell better and thank you that's an added plus like la vivienda Xperia Z or Sony am I I think the only part of the thing about it or the new tablet from Sony that is waterproof and that's you know that's a sighting of the one that we might have a like a like for example for Apple watch the only big benefit I see from switching from a from a from an Android to an apple going to be benefit is like it's expired so you can get advice on that on the iphone that's like the only benefit I see for myself but you made from Andrew to an apple they're out it may be no I mean I'm not saying I will and this thing that would only benefit I see you know of course a year that the more acts the medical system but I think that I mean I know a google play store has much good stores up you know any funding for me is that there that virus pretty even the boy free you know click Angus anyone its kind of that's my opinion yeah oh but if you look at it from that perspective if if every company used a waterproofing technology it wouldn't be you know a big selling feature anymore because F as if it were easy enough for someone like HTC or Samsung to apply it to their phones then you would see all the other companies use it as well that was right yeah oh yeah but it wouldn't be a selling feature anymore it's like uh just like a two thousand million power battery isn't anymore it's just just something that every phone has gentlemen let us wrap this up yeah I gotta get back to work people like toys yeah thank you very much for joining us as you view yes thank you for joining us all right on the head thank you guys very much have a great day or night very guys all right yes likewise Thank You Ann you happy you have an awesome weekend it's here see you later I think I lost him again but that's nothing new and with that let's let's wrap this up in or do you have any final thoughts on today's call um I do not WWDC we're gonna see you not everything is it's I don't but I'm gonna talk about it anyway WWDC and we'll see you know Iowa seven new macbooks new Mac Pro and maybe some features may be a new serie but I think as far as iOS hardware it goes also oh yeah I want to play it all weekend good and hopefully this Google hangout thing will work out better monday when we will have our live coverage of the apple WWDC event we will have lots of news posts courtesy of Stephen shank theater afficher Brenda minimun and myself will be live on the Hangout bringing use as it happens and then of course the entire editorial team will just flood your feeds with editorials and until then I will wish you a very very awesome weekend this has been pocketnow live episode number 19 we have one left of the season after which we'll take a season break I have an answer denied managing editor you can find me right there on Twitter and on Facebook and I've been joined today by Taylor Martin let me switch over to you that is where you can find him on Twitter right there cats Peter thank you very much for joining thanks everybody for joining us I'm sorry if we didn't talk to everybody we are doing our best till next time everybody take care have an awesome weekend Matt Matt see you later