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2013-09-10
come to a special edition of pocket now live this is super exciting this is iphone day I have a calendar and I cross off every day until I phone day and today there were no more crosses left to be to be made we are here to talk about iphone 5s and 5c and maybe some other surprises that will be happening right now a cuckoo cuckoo Cupertino right look at you Taylor right yeah all right uh we're here with Taylor hi May and Michael say what up what up hey guys don't sound so enthused Michael I'm I'm yeah it's been it's been a hell of a morning back for me if I we have stuff going on at Apple I don't even know if there's a live stream my internet connection sucks everything sucks today there's no live stream which is weird because sometimes they haven't sometimes they don't I want to start off with with with a little bit of a prediction and I want to I want to every one to two to give us your prediction because this is a really big deal for Apple and it's a big deal for the industry every time Apple releases a product kind of reverberates throughout the industry and the next 11 or 12 months for some companies it's a little bit about catch up last year we saw the iphone 5 with aluminum this year we saw a lot of aluminum products come out a lot of metal phones the 5s is an interesting case the 5c is clearly going to be for the lower end market finally appealing to people that want something colorful something better than the black or the white the 5s is an interesting case because it's going to have the same design plus maybe a better camera faster processor and this fingerprint scanner and I think that's I think that's where the magic is going to be check this out guys do you guys remember the motorola atrix it had a fingerprint scanner yeah yeah the first one right yeah right but it worked terribly you had to scan your finger it didn't read it properly there was a lag it had to think the processor just it didn't work right yeah I suppose I didn't have the first day tricks I was not the business then no not in the business no news it was terrible it was tell him it was nice it was a little too high like if it were where the the g2's volume rocker is it would've been a lot better yeah yeah the place terrible what I think Apple has done is an industry-first I think it's going to be revolutionary I think they've got a fingerprint technology so good it's built in the home button you rest your finger on the home button and within a second or even an incalculable amount of time you're at your home screen it's extraordinarily fast and it bypasses the lock screen and doesn't necessitate that you have a password anymore it's just seamless you leave any Intel on that I'm sorry Brandon interrupted you even Intel the support that has apple acquired any fingerprint like metrics companies I don't I don't look back through patents Wall Street Journal confirm that there's going to be a fingerprint reader the part leaked the partly it's going to have a silver ring around it and another thing that Apple could do with this fingerprint reader besides immediate access to your lock screen to only you or authorized users your wife your kids if you want is have it attached to an API developers can use to link passwords to the fingerprint so for example if you're logging in the facebook or other other apps that require you to log in multiple times when you type in your password I'll say do you want to link this to your fingerprint and you say yes so the next time you're logging into facebook you just tap your finger and with within a quarter of a second you're in yeah yeah that'd be nice um that's actually go ahead go I was just going to say that that Motorola's take on this is kind of interesting because they have this old trusted device thing where if you connect a device that that you use regularly to your phone you can set it as a trusted device to wear like my pebble is a trusted device on my Moto X so when I open or unlock my Moto X and connect my pebble it will stay unlocked until I tell it to lock again so it's interesting and I only bring that up because there was I can't remember the name of it but kind of not a SmartWatch but like a just a little band you wear around your wrist that works as a password for everything for your computer for facebook I can't remember how it works oh yeah it was yeah it's really cool and it's interesting because that's what a SmartWatch can do that's what how I guess smartwatches can become a little more useful is they are our identity so there's that but the only thing with with a fingerprint scanner is that you've got an advantage because you can't really lose your finger exact you can unless somebody cuts it off don't mess with the Mafia Oh what I what I want to do is kind of go around and talk about what we our relationship is with Apple products we've all used apple products we all own Apple products some of them some of us use use them regularly some of us don't let's start with Michael what is your relationship and sort of what are you excited about today I'm glad I'm glad we're starting with me i have a question is is jaime the one keeping an eye on the on the news yeah on the feed taylor an hour yeah EDI info i am all right yeah you and Taylor are okay good well Taylor knows now cuz I yeah right this is just been crazy so as far as Apple products go a power my desktop experience I've got to have macbook air that I run all of my pocket our business on including video editing which is wild the fan is going like crazy right now it's what i'm using the broadcast now I've got a second macbook air that I just acquired that I use to run my other YouTube and business and I've got an ipad for our three which is pocket mouse which i don't use very often at all anymore because it's so big and heavy but what you wanna do you wanna do a shout outs here your other YouTube endeavor yeah yes yes rapid nadie on look it up or you know rapid nation as everyone insists on Miss misspelling know so it's cool stuff it's fun but uh the iphone i have not carried since 2008 and this will be the first time in history assuming our plan is still intact for me to go buy an iphone and that's going to be the 5s and i'm really looking forward to doing that because i haven't carried an iphone since george w bush was in office so you're looking forward to going back to that experience see what has changed in the last so five years I'd like thing yeah airman hi MA a pretty much a permanent iphone user right oh man yeah I guess a couple of years ago that was like the only phone that I could get that was like compelling on a planet my country and I guess that's the reason why i behaving the apple guy and so i have an imac i have a Retina Display MacBook Pro i have two apple tvs i had I've had every iPad ever since launch I have a mini right now which I thoroughly repent phul to have gotten haha iphone iphone 5 uh I I don't know I guess I have a time capsule I pretty much all my echo system in the house I have a mac mini upstairs that holds all of my movie studio um and everything is pretty much just set around Apple products I guess I delve into the echo system I bit into it and I liked it um simply because it works i guess for me it's like though there are a lot of things that are really no brainers that that work within the apple ecosystem and you know i guess you have going back to that fingerprint scanner thing that you were talking about um i think that for me passwords have always been this thing where you have to be hiding if you really don't want people to see your fast where you have to be hiding your screens other people don't see your password yeah it's just that dumb thing where if nothing isn't is nothing is um how do you say when nothing has felt is foolproof yeah nothing has the bulletproof x7 it your except your fingerprint go ahead yeah I just wanna I'm going to be interrupting as we go around the table here um they're talking iOS 7 now presumably go they're gonna announce a date and I think they're going to announce i'm ninety-nine percent sure i put this on twitter that the gold master is released today yeah did judge just going to happen um something i've been running iOS 7 i'm i've been using HTC One but I'm running Iowa seven something I haven't seen yet is and Jaime are you running iOS 7 yeah of course have you seen any updates to apps for the new flat UI up none you won't and you won't until until it actually gets launched so the api's don't go active for the public until until it goes live so what you're gonna see is iOS 7 is gonna launch and right there you better prepare cuz like 40-50 apps or whatever you have installed are gonna have updates already just ready to go to go alive right because they about all this time to cook them up and sit again yeah it always happens that way you get the you get the final software update and then boom everybody upstate updates their apps right there on Saturday there's a lot of upset developers about it too because you have to completely rewrite the the UI because it's totally different there's enough the same and I want if you want a custom experience in your UI on your app you have to code your buttons and everything again so it's yeah it's a lot of stuff to redo I mean you even have to redo the keyboard to get the new iOS 7 keyboard is the command but but yeah you have to redo that too Taylor while you're while you're chatting what's your relationship with Apple products well I use I use a macbook pro retina display their keyboard and their magic trackpad I have an ipad mini and an iphone 5 i've had every ipad so far and i've had iphone for the 4s and I've carried them most the time since the for hit verizon I wrote about that yesterday when the verizon iphone landed i bought it and i used an iphone from that point until just a few months ago so I've been primarily an Android and iOS guy and since the 1020 i switched away from the iphone and haven't looked back so I'm not terribly interested in the iphone 5s I'm actually more interested in the 5c just because of what it means for Apple and emerging markets but I probably won't carry the 5s I probably mad i don't think the iphone 5c is gonna go Oh a cipher it's gonna be a china phone I have no no I think I think they're gonna offer that everywhere I really it's gonna be in the US just okay so simple okay so for me it's either they ditch the ipod touch and leave the iphone 5c as the budget alternative because the price tag is pretty much going to end up matching the ipod touch you gotta get it out plan though it's a huge cost long-term love wouldn't if you wanted to just use it as an ipod you get what a better all that unlocked I Gaza as an ipod I want to say that the Serie improvements are being announced right now and yes sirree improvements you can search twitter wikipedia thing i hate that they use bing ah ah ee hey so bottom line is like i know i was just gonna say Adam and I'm playing it out of doubt or like shut up dudes no but no but no but for real Bing I've been using it more frequently on my windows from because I've had the 1020 and Bing is is improved I still prefer google get me wrong I'm not gonna front like I like Google better let me paint from results are much better not gonna not gonna front on this show yo can Siri compete with google now yet probably wait a minute win will hold a public wait what do you mean can it compete with google it does somethings better than google now already like the natural voice interface is way better than is yet the the the so it speaks answers back to you a little more naturally but no no no that's not what I'm saying the input is much easier you can talk to Siri off person you still can't talk to Google now like a person nearly as well as you can do with Siri Siri still and that's important because Syria is still more popular with old folks as a result serious so much I am an over all right Brad since I series much better integrating the phone it's a little more natural use but but it's so much less reliable like like twenty to fifty percent of the time I can't even use a damn thing it just times out do you guys find that with Siri I don't have a lot of issues with Siri but the languages and I have an accent I guess my biggest problem in a towel and I'll go with with Taylor on this when it comes to Google now is I just love google now because I don't have to even talk to the damn thing it already knows what I'm looking for it already knows what I've just searched it already knows what my favorite teams are it already knows the places where I go every day and for me that is far better than Cirie even though Siri I mean I it never gets me calling an application wrong it never gets my questions wrong it never sends me to a to a desktop search or anything and never does that Siri is that reliable but i guess that google now steps it up a notch that's me yeah it's it's true automation in that eye open what are you doing who did that stop that stop that stop your aunt on get out of here i was just going to say that you just have to open it and it's the information is there waiting for you so it pulls automatically it gives it i'm at anywhere a coffee shop and it's like you're 15 minutes from home and there's traffic you know so there are things that Google now does that a suitable never be able to card view and stuff I that not all that far superior to us here he's doing I was just talking with the voice interface yeah that's true I'm you're lying so still it old man am am just a just little update we're still talking about iOS 7 just some recaps of the features i'm watching closely see if there's anything new that they're talking about but i'm going to circle back to that discussion that we started off with which is our relationship with apple products um about half the year i use an iphone about half the year i use an android phone and even that's a hundred percent of here sometimes these windows one and the reason is because my wife my two best friends my parents my brothers and everyone else that I know pretty much uses an iphone so I message facetime they all work between us very well but I switched to android that all kind of breaks down a little bit so the iphone is a really important device to me and the iphone is still the only device that can do everything well and jaime knows exactly what i'm talking about the cameras kick-ass the speed and fluidity is great the app situation is wonderful productivity is there customized abilities the only thing that's really not there with with with that with the iphone but for that i use an android phone sometimes but i am a you know I'm very much into the apple ecosystem like Jaime because my family and friends I guess that's a different reason Jaime you have all of the services on all of your devices right and that's that the thing is in this country iphone is the new blackberry it's like everybody has an iphone now um and so it's it's just easier to communicate with everybody it's just for example there's new air drop feature that's coming in iOS 7 is gonna be the bomb it's like everybody's like oh you don't have bluetooth file sharing on your phone and we do on Android well this is going to blow this is going to blow a file-sharing out of the water it's just it's very simple um i guess i guess my thing about apple products is the this the simplicity the fact that i could be upstairs and I could just restart my router uh which obviously is an apple product from my phone without needing to move it's just that thing what's it's a no brainer I can't believe that it's a no brainer but then nobody else gets it right it's a it's just everything is connected just some updates here we lost Michael he'll come back they're showing some apps that are taking advantage of the new flat design in iOS 7 zillow Evernote opentable more to come and we're getting really close I think in the in the presentation where they're talking about a release date oh here it is September 18 folks so it is out that I still think the gold master is coming out today the gold master will be out today you can bet on that yep and so September 18th a week from tomorrow yeah you got it the gold masters out today and Tim Cook is back out thank goodness they didn't take too much time yeah hey welcome back Michael I have a question for you since you're back in and ready to go how long you going to carry the iphone because everyone else will be as well so can you handle that mr. hipster I'm going to carry the iphone I'm gonna carry the iphone and until enough time has passed that that every third person I see in the street has one and then I'm going to I'm going to throw it okay so everybody in the street is gonna have it before you Michael Mike wait wait no mother not i'm waiting in line for it that's why don't ya exactly do you think you're gonna be front of you in that line it's like half the population of boston is gonna have it before you get to the end of that line are you what I'm gonna take your 1020 in film it and and yeah I mean every 10-20 the other packages so I can counterbalance because I have to have the least carried phone in Boston it wait a sec guys another update that September 18th date seems to only be for iphone 5 and 4s so presumably I thought I'll be a little bit later which makes sense because the iPads behind and that was rumored that was expected actually that was part of the rumors that the ipad launch would take some time it happened with iOS four you remember when 4.1 and 4.2 came out there was no 4.1 for the ipad and went directly to 4.2 you know what that also means that also means that i think this the pre-order date of September 20th for the 5s and 5c is right because iOS 7 has to be completed before these devices ship yeah you know and it's just one thing that I really admire about this you know this company for example none of my previous none of my last your last year galaxy phones have four point two point two they just don't nobody has it yet um they are waiting to launch everything for them to bring four point two point two to last year's phones so they can have enough time to sell this year's phones but then you have apple who doesn't worry about that they're not worried about not trunking one phone over another phone because of a software they still release their software updates for their phones I guess that's just another thing that I like about using Apple products yeah everyone gets the updates there's no crap there's no waiting it's just there yeah but didn't they get caught for scheduled obsolescence not optimizing the software for older hardware so it really just kind of makes you happy but but here's the deal i mean you have a single core processor on the iphone 4 for example all that interactive thing that you can do with the camera like the Instagram thee and do on a single core processor big news is good news all five of the iwork apps are now going to be free do I get a refund for the ones i've paid five dollars each for that includes what iphoto imovie uh you just pages and numbers i didn't pay for any of them so I'm have paid for iphoto dude that's awesome like what is that this that's a serious value add for the for the whole ecosystem now I mean is it really though like is anyone like dude yeah over Laos holes it allows them to compete directly with Microsoft who's been like pushing that office integration on all the surface as you but drive Walt illegal with red nails yeah yeah yeah yeah but yeah you're right i did pay for it oh I movie for example for those of you that have never used iMovie i do recommend it on the item it's really good you know i edit the pocket now daily it's rare micro you should take your Lumia 1020 shoot the video edited on the ipad while you're still in line and then update i uploaded by your line well it sounds like a like not much could possibly go wrong with that scenario i'm sure that would hurt okay whoa alright so now we're now we're talking about iphone Tim snark Lee said now I'd like to talk about i phone a couple of you might be expecting this uh he's 05 do yo yeah I miss Steve Jobs I gotta say it yeah you remember that moment where he announces the iphone 4 he's like stop me of UCS the last what I like those that Tim Tim adheres to the same formula of the previous Apple events and it's fun it's it's proven thing it's like geez you move into a new category of care we on top of what I phone now now we're gonna tell you about how successful last one was we're going to set the stage for this next one which is going to build on the success of this previous model and you know it's simple there I'm crazy about it but it's fun it's the same kind of yes Samsung tried to do that with their their press event that press event was so weird what the wanna diva yeah but they won't be written as weird as I usually good okay well they're like hey this is look at okay now we're going to show you that again much slower but they did that and now they back and said okay in the past when we've introduced an iphone we lower the price of the old iphone this year we're not going to do that this year we're going to replace the iphone 5 with the sale to design oh my god everything looks stupid though new designs okay so fine yeah would you would you give it five hundred milliseconds before your negative about it no no will not only only say that it's not a bad idea it's just bad because they'll have so much stock left over what are they gonna do with all the other iphone 5s that are out there they're selling or simply it's the same it's the same chassis all they're gonna do is drill a bigger hole ha they're gonna let rip off the panels and I don't think they're gonna call them all back and take them apart and then put them back together you know you know that what I'd really like honestly I would really like for a bigger iphone for us you know for a five minute 44 inch you know steel stainless steel with a glass on glass marking that air so the iphone 5 c's official it's called the 5c um made with incredible tech that customers love with iphone 5 okay so it's just an iphone 5 of colors let's go to the 5s wake now can we can we can we get a 4.7 inch iphone please come cause sales so that so the thing okay so there's more fun and colorful yeah the colors are all current nobody's really surprised by the colors but this is cool and then they're about to show a video here so the colors might not get us excited but as far as regular consumers go yeah love to see this like color spread especially it's between the awesome way that apple can present it because we know how they do it already with the ipods you know what I mean really looks good in the store and if we gets my celebratory glands happening I made that word up its really honestly this is gonna be like really interesting for me I love that strategy where the old iphone drops in price and remains another year because that automatically may your purchase nah nah sleep so here are the colors you've got lime green whitish bluish-green ready for me how much yellow I want you guys to know like while I was accusing the virtues of this colored iPhone my friend my friend Chris who's following our liveblog Hagmann just texted me to say also the iphone 5c looks like poop I don't I don't agree Kristi Larson but you are gay it's like yesterday's comments of outdated they were like what are your predictions we're gonna get an i crap the iphone iphone the C stands were cracked yeah it's gonna be comments or like that getting to be time for me to write a long editorial and why everyone needs to shut up about the Apple bashing because it's just out of time it's so funny it's so funny they bash it and still those are the most most viewed videos the sir you know it's just the most popular time for anything it's like every single year year-over-year our most popular day is iphone day because it's interesting because one of the cool things about selfish the OS and the phone i don't remember if they held out on you and yo las phone but is it the ghola phone or is it what is i don't remember the name yeah basically but one of the things they did and one of the things that Windows Phone does or windows for manufacturers is they match the color with the color of the phone and that's what Apple's doing here it's kind of interesting and then they've done it with the ipod nano lineup Oh have they did they had the wallpaper matching the hardware casing and stuff yeah so the pay phone has a pink wallpaper just just some updates here so they're making a case with it that is soft feel silicone rubber rubber it's written it's really weird as perforations in the back like these holes I guess to give you a nice grip and then also you get this idea of doing two colors so the case can be one color the device community and kind of moto x a file right which is pretty cool yeah it's polycarbonate you know I'm just surprised if they sold I hold up hold up the case is polycarbonate or the casing the phone is polycarbonate the cases silicone rubber or something ok and then it's reinforced steel on the chassis most likely yeah that's what their that's what this the engadget live dog is saying I'm or injured I mean it doesn't look bad it really doesn't know I like it come on Carrie a lime-green iphone I would do it ok Florence retina display integrated integrated touch what does that in this employee that you probably talked about the lamination and sell ok and south oh this RGB standard widescreen video right that's like the basic a6 processor this is all same about speaker guest okay this is good for those of you that don't know the a6 processor on the iphone five rocks cranes it crazy it is really good it is really good ok 8 megapixel camera so this is pretty much the iphone 5 only with a plastic chassis well that's what Tim Cook said earned not Phil Schiller said he said everything you love by the iphone 5 just plastic but it's it's got a bigger battery so that's awesome because the iphone 5 RT is pretty good battery life well what do we know what the no they're not gonna ransom elaborating the temple they have an adult they never do there's an improved front facing camera with higher larger 1.9 oh so the front facing camera is actually 1.9 hey Apple can we get optical image stabilization hold that boom well not on the 5c LOL 5 sea turtle is proud you don't this any did that any does any of you ever miss like the iphone 3gs the whole plastic design know how hated that design i do i did not hate that design I I like it I like it because I'm obligated to because I'm aniston emma nostalgia poor so yeah I love the way it felt in the hand I guess yeah I was pillowy it was nice until it started bullying the plastic bubble starting soon okay more LTE bands up to 100 megabits per second downloads 802 11 no a CNN OAC there's no AC on this phone it's Bluetooth 4.0 I Apple why a hundred dollars or two hundred dollars for the two-year contract again why why that's too hot okay so it's a hundred dollars 16 gig and wait wait a second this is pretty much an iphone 5 they're just changing the back so it was dropped two hundred dollars anyway right yeah I don't know yeah so this is a 16 gig is 99 32 gig is 199 which is great you get the 32 gig option that's awesome and then the case is up Apple oh well ever you know I have eventually learned that cases in the United States all costs thirty to thirty bucks it's funny because here they cost five dollars um but yeah the case that rubber case will cost thirty bucks and you know what this we're going to do guys the the cases are inter environmental checklist arsenic-free mercury free and android free hey hey guys you know what this is going to do by creating these two different products it's going to make the 5s seem so much more high-end because of the fact that they're keeping the five around so people are going to they're going to go with the 5s because they know that the 5c is like you know it's always visible here's my problem with it so they had a perfect model with the iphone 5 going down to a lower end model and having introducing a new phone their old model was great because they didn't have to redevelop a whole new phone every time they just developed one phone and pushed it down the line kept developing it and then made a new phone now each year they're going to make two phones so is that really going to constitute yourselves as they're going to create more sales or is it gonna just make them spend more money developing a whole nother phone so I kind of understand what's going on here see you know for example this aluminum design of the iphone 5 let's face it whoever doesn't like it i mean come on this is a beautiful phone um you can't just come up and come come out with a new different you know slightly redesigned BMW all the time they build one design and they try to keep it for as long as they can and so what what they're trying to do is they're trying to keep the high-end design to be this for another year and then the iphone 5c they just you know they rethought the whole budget i did i think it's a smart idea to smart approach here's something that's interesting they're calling it beautifully unapologetically plastic that's awesome yeah that's sir Jony ive in the in the video they're saying that i think that's pretty cool you're also calling out the seamless nature of it I mean you know they're trying not to make it sound like the cheap that little o end well it's not I mean it's an iphone 5 and there's nothing cheap about it it's just got it just has a plastic case which everybody was going to buy anyways for it right and the thing is like I think it's important that they have this product because yeah they're old model worked well for a long time but you know what did we see this past year we saw Wall Street get really really impatient with apple and we saw the value of the company fall because it didn't grow as quickly as it was growing before of course that's inevitable but what do you do when you have that problem you crank out some more products that are going to be bought in large volumes I mean I think that the whole apple stock price drop was mainly because Apple has not launched products this year as they have last year like no and not for example last year was a mistake all years before you would notice that they would sparse their launches like early in the year the ipad then mid-year the iphone then end of the year the new mac allina but then last year in the fall they launched five different products on one event you know the iphone 5 the ipad mini the new ipod you know if you remember that event that event was so long that people were bored by the end of it and they launched everything in the fall it was an arms yeah and so that's really what hit their stock price the fact that they haven't kept people on the edge of their seats rumors were loop control rumors because we I think that Apple does this I mean control rumors are not going to keep people on the edge of their seats um I think that in the case of this you know again I how were they gonna read since this design had no problems with it no antenna issues no nothing with it how are they going to differentiate the five with the 5s if they both look alike in the case of the four on the 4s they looked sort of a light but you can still tell the difference between one and the other wait that for in the 4s weren't they like like completely identical yeah but the band's leather yeah that was rich with the antennas yeah and nobody's gonna pay attention to the antenna now oh I can I could totally tell a 44 before us do you know if you good but yours nurple your necks burn your the manga yeah like I see one now and I have to ask my friends is that a 4 or 4s hmm no I get today probably tell it what they're really touting is that with this case the case color combination plus the device color combinations you can make like 40 different color combinations essentially which is very interesting and the colors are ugly I mean they're all so muted and pastel there's no like private Oh Gary redder you know we said that about the iphone 5 until we held it so well no these are pastel colors except for the yellow and green they're all pastel yes I guess for example I complete leap and the iphone 5 and once I held it I was like okay fine i like it so I'm not matching that I'm just bashing the colors I don't like the colors and I don't like the cases but think about it think about think about a bold rich highly saturated color case and then iOS 7's muted pastels that wouldn't work like the this is a unified hardware and software there there's nothing muted about the pastels on Iowa said I have sevens very vibrant and that they are all right well find that are vibrant pastels but like it's green and green so yeah somebody made a comment on the on one of the parking out dailies and was like imagine a colorful phone in a colorful you I and I'm like okay so fine a muted back with a colorful front is not a bad idea actually all right guys we're getting we're getting to the iphone 5s know the name is confirms iphone 5s it's got a 400-horsepower and i got about fifteen hundred foot pounds of torque in there oh my god if schiller calls it perhaps the most forward-thinking phone anyone has ever made so when you make em like you made a claim like that my tail starts to wag and get pointy in the direction of north uh finding in the direction of the vibe button I mean he's really it's really hyping myself by the way by the way viewers up for example Apple products are like the one those one products where are you you know getting review units is pretty much impossible those are actually popped you know every one of those reviews at which wich in the other case it's completely different and it comes in gold but it's not loaded champagnes like champagne yes late gold and silver like the URI I'm sticking to silver I want platinum you know that's that's where the business is I want all matte black everything you know that yeah already made a macbook pro titanium all right so that there it is it has the dual flash thing it comes in those three colors gold silver and slate so how's this for the most forward-thinking phone anyone has ever made we're going to find out everyone just quiet until not asking is champagne champagne phone ah it's got its got a ring around the home button it's like ring around the rosy song you know the only reason why I would get the golden phone is because obviously everybody else is going to be carrying an iphone 5 and that's just gonna make me stand the part that's the only reason yeah I hopefully I'm glad the choices there because I mean a lot of people I guess a lot of people prefer this I mean others say they wouldn't have made it but I'm glad that they've retained the other choices to you know in that you know that slate color actually looks good what he looks the same a black doesn't know no it's it's it's a it's a gray or aluminum yeah and I'll put it this way i'm gonna get an iphone i'm gonna cover it in something because i don't like how easily it just dings it mine is just absolutely trashed and I carry it in a case most of the years tell you something about that okay so I got this phone with applecare+ and because you know mr. Brandon minimun pretty much trashed it in about a week I gotta interrupt you it's got an a 70 ka7 processor 60 64 bit what is that hanging the phone so Taylor so Taylor for example I have swapped this phone twice um and this last time that I went to swap it for some reason i've been using the phone exactly in the same way that I did before and it's got no dents so I don't know I think that it prod they're probably investing they did Sam parade in a higher grade sheet of aluminum they may have mine came damaged and they did they wouldn't exchange it ohana meetings yeah alright world's first and only 64-bit smartphone ever no one ever talks about that I bet that Apple is gonna tell us about why we should care about that I bet they're gonna put it in simple terms that we can understand let's maybe an inspirational video maybe oh alright gosh it's got the app store just getting modernist okay 64-bit desktop-class architecture modern instruction set to Times general purpose registers can somebody worst joke somebody get x floating point registers over 1 billion transistors 102 millimeters squared die so that's twice as many transistors for roughly the same size as the a6 and get it is about the same size what does that mean I don't know I don't really know all chai means you know I think I think what we're getting here is more power that's what we're being made to understand about this device so so forth means more better apples apps are 64-bit developers can chew it can run in 32 or developers can make it 64 so more work for developers but you know it's the future they will do it and it's backwards compatible yeah and forward compatible oh all built-in apps will be re-engineered seamless developer transition xcode support runs 32-bit and 64-bit apps all right what does that mean what does that mean my eyes are an Android has a course can somebody explain to me the difference between the the arm bastes processing in this wow I don't want to put everybody to sleep right but like the CPU is twice as fast and graphics or twice as fast as well apples claiming with this new processor and it's great way to stay in shape yeah the cpu performance is 40 times faster than the original iphone say i love comparisons like that they're like kind of meaningless not likely i said never tried to use the original iphone these days i have an iphone 3g here man oh my god using that thing is like god that thing is so slow that's built in Upsala and OpenGL ES 30 and while the performances is remarkably this oh so the performance is is the biggest increase of it is twice as fast as the iphone 5 it looks more than that and this fancy char King yeah and they're they're talking up grab extensive games now and looks like we're going to roll into a demo so this is what happened was every time right i mean they throw in a more powerful processor but it looks like they're really harping on at this time I've never seen so many specs yeah yeah it says entation a lot of Foreman's talk yeah what seemed orbit basically opens you up to two more performance more capabilities it's both hardware and software and you know even more interesting is the fact that Bob Mansfield is not part of Apple anymore and they're making this like gigantic leap into 64-bit processors now on a mobile phone you know I don't know so epic games is up on stage right now we're gonna get the usual demo um you know I just I'm still like okay fine we're getting a 64-bit processor on a 4-inch display um calendars can open real fast you think exactly I mean how am I really going to enjoy a game on a 4-inch display I still debate that well I know I don't know I mean I I don't have a problem with with with screen size at that point or at least I didn't before but now that the markets like norm is 4.5 24.7 it's like it's it's like a shits yeah but that is literally one of my biggest complaints with the iphone is it sighs i have big hands so are not long fingers just a fat thumb really and it makes typing on it so hard and and that's part of the other problem is that the software hasn't really improved where other keyboards are getting smarter apples just they did this change how it looked they didn't add a prediction software I'm gonna debate that I actually find the keyboard prediction on the on iOS predict it just corrects so swiftkey and swipe and with the google stock keyboard i can type one word and it can sometimes predict the rest of my sentence but iphones it just corrects you you know i guess it depends on your usage scenario like for example i don't even look at the keyboard to type on at at times um and so the last thing it's not that I'm not interested in getting in getting suggestions that's fine I just I'm not even looking forward to them because I'm you know I'm just focused on typing the word that I know that I want to type and I like the fact that it always gets it right you know I'm used by the way I am like pro swifty and look at that chrome ring around the phones yeah I imagine we're gonna hear about that in a second if wait if the home button doesn't have the little square in it anymore no uh yeah it doesn't either we now have a shepherd the developer of infinity blade is saying that normally it would take a lot of work to converse I'm the 62 bit or 64 bit rather but uh it with Apple it took two hours apparently I think that's the Infinity Blade developer so that's interesting it on the crapper and my friend my friend my friend Chris continues to give us interesting information here is in terms of the 64-bit instruction set should be twice as fast yes indeed but only makes a big difference in memory addressing and instruction sets it's actually know about you guys what I've been saying for years what uh memory management is actually good you can well you can have more applications to multitask I assume yeah um I think my biggest problem people are in the comments on YouTube ur saying that I'm I'm biased and bashing Apple I'm not no way wait people are making bias claims in the comment oh my god never happened on your hands up no my problem with the iPhone and Apple is that I've been using it for years and they keep changing and updating things but they don't really speak to me they haven't really addressed any of the issues I've had and that makes it difficult for me to want to continue using it does it mean it's a bad phone no yes I mean it's not great no it just doesn't speak to me like it used to they're talking about the the 64-bit architecture enabling things like depth of field and and focus and blur and stuff in the game but they're also just said you know it also enables lens flares that would make JJ Abrams crash I'm LOL about nope you know what's this phone needs is like when you're when the less informed technology no less technologically informed population talk to their friends say are you gonna get the 5s they say what's the difference are gonna be like oh it's got a 64-bit chip and it's 50 x faster and yeah no silly there's something here where it's like it can read your mind right right right no you're making a good point because it's so hard we all have new phones all the time right there all new review devices and people ask what's special about it and I think many of some manufacturers forget the importance of being like even if it's a gimmick and Samsung does not do this Samsung knows the importance of gimmicks but you need to throw in two or three things there where it's like I need I can show you something in two seconds that'll make your phone look lame and that's that's a very powerful thing for the the common side person you talked to on the sidewalk yeah you know like I guess for example Brandon posted something on Facebook this morning was like today is iphone today's iphone day and I you know I found it really interesting that you know the comments were immediately like oh I'm waiting for iOS 7 you know from you know two people that I assume are not in the industry and this is you know for me every time that I asked people it's like what version of Android are you running people don't know they have no clue how to update the software on their phone no no clue and still they know what iOS 7 is and you know I you know I'm either at the gym or someplace and everybody's like oh you've got the new iOS 7 but then when they look at my at the galaxy s are they have no clue that's running for point-to-point to or whatever well yeah there are very different ecosystems when you can you can instantly tell when an iphone is running the new iOS because it hasn't changed in five years and now suddenly it's different you know again oh there's a new part the MS 7 it works alongside the a7 it's called a motion coprocessor oh this is exactly what the Moto X 8 mobile computing system does oh so right natural language processing it will and sees out that part yeah so dinner anything bad yep that's boring basically when I was good my Moto X it's not boring for although for all the fitness dudes who are going to carry their iPhones and Rihanna continuously measures motion data accelerometer gyroscope compass enables a new generation of health and fitness apps okay nice and sexual awareness this is a bigger they would make this push this is exactly what Motorola's doing with the ex yeah yeah using the iphone on a treadmill as an exercise in frustration no I believe it I I believe that anything that takes place on or near a treadmill is an exercise I still far away from those as you can tell I get down we talked about on the podcast a couple weeks ago yeah but neither use invited on a podcast ever again hey hey no worries I might send you a fat listen okay so are they totally killing the Nike FuelBand with this thing no thank you this is Nike yeah they're totally killing the FuelBand with this thing in there if their employment if they're you know the rotation is going to be something like shirring everything that you do during the day with this the make you feel bad tell it tell us slobs with the nike football i have one at home terrorism yeah you wear band on your wrist and it takes your your movement data and turns it into fuel points which really don't have any value their kind of be suitable yes your cycle pinnacles for the arbitrary hazards and saying and what you're looking for is for a calorie burns pacific during the day that's what you're looking battery life is 10 hours blah blah blah how does that compare previously about this time is it 10 hours browsing LTE browsing well 10 hours LTE browsing is different I think I think I yeah longer yeah two hours oh look this time is about the size is still true this is so true I don't understand why it is with the iphone that their 3g performance is lesser than their LTE performance every time that I go to the United States my battery lasts twice as long as it lasts LT is just a very efficient technology well it wasn't like that everybody remembers the HTC Thunderbolt your battery pretty much went you have it that was that was back when they had use a separate board entirely for LTE yeah you so every time you switch to LT you were actually flipping on another radio so 9 we're talking about the camera now which is what I am extremely excited or concerned with 8 megapixel iSight camera no no you son of a I don't want that for most if these guys bring optical in civilization to this camera they're gonna nail it no way no way there's no way that it's in there because they don't have enough space in the frame to do that i don't think i really don't know man you never know Five Element Apple ends designed with with the f2 point when to aperture what does that mean what's fifteen percent larger sensor area or active center area so that it's just like you before it's it's the same five element Apple lens that they had before yeah that's the same the same Lin structure yeah but we don't know about sensor size its larger active sensor area but fifteen percent larger active area but that might only be for eight megapixels which would be kind of like a HTC ultrapixel thing for eight megapixels maybe mm yeah bigger pixels make for a better picture Phil says oh ultra pixel hear all that Walter pixel but basil too they're doing with it yeah what's your name ultra pickles in there we'll just I need more altra pickles awesome people we have we have 1200 people watching right now so thank you for trying to us also for experiencing the Wonder with us I want to remind you guys on the stream with me that the this is not the iphone 6 you should not expect a 26 megapixel camera with optical image stabilization this this is the finest everyone keep that in mind it's all right it's all right be nice ok so these bigger pixels wait the HTC One has optical image stabilization yes it does yeah so you know because you remember that they made that whole argument where those those ultrapixels what would allow more light intake but then the thing is aside from the ultrapixels there is also optical image stabilization so apparently we're getting bigger pixels on this phone so most likely it'll have better low-light performance it's not optical if it's love 1.5 micro pixels that is I think I think HTC's one has to point something ultrapixel I guess to even or 2.2 I think to my tattoo even sounds right but 1.5 which means the standard camera has I think like point eight to one I believe in in micro pixels which means that that's a pretty significant upgrade can one of you guys decipher this this camera talk that's coming through here because I can't put any context to this camera the camera offsets white balance exposure creates dynamic local tone nap where's Adam line model okis matric metering 15 zones okay it takes multiple photos at once and picks the best there's also a true tone flash and they're talking about the different kinds of light outdoor sky being the the whitest candle flame being the most orange whatever color your flesh is it's going to clash with the color in the room especially skin tone so this is a little bit of an invention think I think a multicolored flash that will help to not make you look ghost white you know if your clothes off you to be sure it seems like it's like the lighting I have for my video said if I used standard incandescent bulbs all my videos would look really ridiculous and crazy so I use white tamiya yo abella in case i use yellow bulbs and i have to set the camera into kansas and light that's that's the way holy crap so these two these two LEDs can flash in a thousand different combinations making it more more more MORE wow it's cold so I think ins I probably have like a yellow one and a white one to make it and you can balance it out I think it's amber and white actually okay yeah um so this is some cool stuff guys I ok looks like me I'll admit this I hate taking photos with a flash but you know for me the iPhone 5 has been like the only phone that not the forest by the way not the for the five has been the only one that nails night photography with a flash like a point-and-shoot camera it's already yes I could leave my cyber shot the old cyber-shot that I used to have I leave it back because the ihome gives me just the same photos at night uh you know from a partier you're using a flash now this is something that I was going to see because I if if this thing is still going to take the same low-light photos and not that they're bad but it just still doesn't hold a candle to get it here though since its its auto image auto image middle is a question but I don't know now that sounds like digital stabilization to me and is digital stabilization now I since we're talking about cameras I have to bring this up I'd never use flash I absolutely hate you flash I flashes like a last resort you ever I'll give you a flash yeah if I had beads i would throw them at you but i know but well this thing has to flesh you have your xenon and your standard LED flash and i leave one thing on at all times and that is the focus flash was like yeah yeah yeah because I can focus at night and then optical image stabilization makes it you know yeah it's a closer than sisters handle it yeah so that's something you can do before you couldn't separate the two so I'm really liked that a lot except for can you tell me I'm sorry Taylor can you tell me did the previous iphones not have burst shot cuz this one too no no no this is brush I don't know dude i use birdshot all time an example of when it's awesome I was just like was brushing his hair yeah you can see the individual strands is it here to the brush and then freed themselves it's amazing does it he does it for hair brushing gifts I feel so so for real on a boat I love taking shots of the wake receding into the distances I'm screaming by in a boat and the American flag is doing this thing and you know you've tried to take shots of a flag and it's doing a stupid thing and it's another stupid thing take 15 at once the flag is going to be doing something cool and one of them and you can snap that everybody don't you have to delete all those 15 14 and keep the one if you use a dumb birth shot but you most of them allow you to select a best shot that it's like discard the rest I'm like yeah describe the video 120 frames per second 120 FPS that is awesome holy balls I mean my problem with my probably the first mode is that you have to drop the resolution of your pictures so if you usually capture at eight megapixels up with a burst mode you're probably only capturing like 720p or 1080p pictures so that's my problem with burst mode man i just upload them all to instagram so it don't matter i did a video on a version of us it kind of does it's ironic it's like instagram boosted their their image size of it like a couple of months ago and so for example photos that come from burst shot or something look like all choppy and everything on it soon yeah well that's that's all android photos on Instagram it did it does weird stuff Kendra by the way I've been using the gs4 for Instagram lately and that's like the only android phone that works well with Instagram all right let me I'm sorry that it's capturing 120 fps in 720p and you can actually select which part of the video you want normal in which parts in slow-mo that's awesome because some funds restrict you when you're shooting at 60fps like you have to shoot in that the entire the entire video and then like they don't record sound because it would sound really weird playback at normal speed or after the stock apple stock is down about always is that's always really it always goes down with every announcement and then it skyrockets by the end of the week this this I was like a really good camera guys I'm excited that they spend a good amount of time on the camera because ok so for it so for example for me out of the why is it that i like the iphone's camera over every other camera for example HDR HDR is actually something that you can leave on on the iPhone and you'll still get the photos meaning if I try to use HDR on the G for I actually like the HDR on the gs4 mode more but you know it takes forever for to take the shot and it always comes out moved there and I don't get that problem the iphone it's I don't always get issues with HDR I don't know that it the phone just knows it for example in sunrise if you want to take a sunrise photo the iphone will always nail it regardless of would note that it's funny because there are differences in HDR execution that like if you see an HDR photo taken with an HTC device you know it because there's crazy fringing around the edges and there's all this kind of there's like a halo around stuff it's really artificial looking which can be cool sometimes but you don't always want that yeah I agree the iphone well the iphone is what kind of popularized HDR for mobile photography so it all makes sense hey yeah we're good blend it they even make the fastest I mean they do it the fastest they didn't talk about the the resolution of the camera yet interestingly yes I think I think that probably means it's eight which is only 80 twenty eight megapixel panoramic shot I almost read was you can adjust exposure automatically during the panorama that's awesome because only take one with the Sun on one side and darken the other end extra looks like you're on some alien planet all right here we go you are and talk about the fingerprint now the third feature is all about security looks like the line wait a second so they never mentioned how many megapixels this camera have gonna be eight they don't want to talk about mega don't want to talk about it then it's eight yeah yeah mega pixel don't matter does that sound familiar honestly honestly there's nothing wrong with 8 megapixel it's no absolutely not i mean funny isn't 13 yeah if you have a 13 megapixel camera and you want a 16 by 9 photos there 99 point you're down to 9.6 anyway right exactly yes it's pointless so the showing off handcuffs talking about passcodes how they're big pain in the ass if they if they nail that fingerprint scanner firing yeah this iphone I'm tell you it's gonna be an instant reader you won't even know it's gonna be one of they wouldn't be including it if it wasn't excellent yep yep they're not gonna give up this little girl honestly this is foolproof security if they figure out or the right way to do it I mean I'm not gonna have to worry about passwords anymore but and Phil is making a good point some people find passcodes phil schiller am NOT on first-name basis of the filter some people find passcodes cumbersome me so I do too I do not set up pass codes on the phone because I don't want to put him in every time i unlock the thing I hate about skip it's called touch ID that was the name that was leaked it's official everything every last detail has been leaked it's it looks like it's an app and which makes me think that there is an API and third parties can take advantage of it so you never have to enter a password again why couldn't they do that with sharing so that I could you know share to you know I don't know Google Plus from the photo app entail I don't include Google Plus nobody cares care if it's google plus i want to share to tweak but or anything but the stock twitter client i'll just imagine how many apps foreign are on the App Store just imagine how many options for sharing you have to what guys there's a whole nother list of specs to pay attention to now Oh a micron thin 500 PPI resolution of the sensor it scans sub-epidermal skin layers and has a hundred 360-degree readability what is it the 360 degree finger off it does that big oh great resent does that mean it doesn't matter what what orientation you put your thumb on it because most people pick up their phones and they and they don't align their finger perfectly in the center so you can do it like no you know i right okay okay that's what I'm telling you this is gonna make the go-ahead I thought I'm in like you could put the your thumb unlike any all around the fan can read in any orientation oh yeah this is nuts stainless steel detection ring so it detects your fingers actually on the button so you a little shocked a little vibration yeah it gives you just to keep you awake a porn industry like this the ring around the house and bolts so it's a detection mechanism that will turn on the touch ID sensor like those little shake just as you sit in your palm and they chirp listen just the fact that I get to take away my password is like he's awesome and and you know what this means you're gonna have a whole nother level of personalization when you first buy the phone it's going to be even more like a fixed to a piece of your heart where it's like okay I hi I'm your new iPhone you're like hey and it's like teach me about your fingers and like you got it hey here to be like yeah yeah okay it's time for an I was right moment you can simply touch our home button to unlock your phone that's so cool you don't have to press in you just tap it okay oh it was nothing like this if this is going to be part of iCloud keychain this is gonna nail it all your passwords and everything nailed in your fingerprint here you can also scan your fingerprint to do stuff in apps like authenticate itunes for bearing apps it's also they're going to build this into the macbook air it's got to be a full this is this is this is kind of a revolution because we haven't seen movie nobody has nailed it right there not the first but they're nailing it right exactly yeah well we'll see if they nail already maybe it'll get blowed like you know what was that what was their last facepalm moment I don't know antennagate man I just want to provide your fingerprint in your phone crashes I want to provide an update to the people watching thank you everyone for watching I'm sorry if we're talking over each other when when exciting shiz happens we go a little nuts we geek out a little too much but hey the home button is completely flat by the way it's flat so that ring is not raised around it no it's actually in it goes in like a dimming suit in ah that's what it's sunk in I like this but this is I think this is joni I've talking doing an addition on the videos gol de de fome looks so cheesy it's not just rampant techfoots sake I like that it's not just technology for technology's sake every component and process has been considered and measured to make it's truly useful that's awesome is if nothing else like this this fingerprint thing and I kind of do here yo Taylor come on yeah I mean it's a good is it is it is but I kind of like the NFC thing or trusted devices because if I'm in the vicinity because you have this geo you have a geofence base like NFC so you want to carry this extremity on your body you do not have you do not have kids if you so I'm gonna have to take off my watch it's just because I'm five feet close to my phone and it's gonna unlock my phone and I don't want my kids to use my oh no I if I want it to lock when it's all my pebble witness connected all I do is tell you lot okay oh you're sick you're single trust me you're a single man and that's the reason why you understand that you know trusted devices make sense but for the rest of the world uses a passcode lock for a specific reason what do you look at the moment now the home button is uh the home button is sapphire crystal who care it acts as a lens who cares our friend a friend Jeff nestel pack at G&G technologies now GT um to the Stepford Chris acts as a lens Accenture takes a picture of your fingerprint analyze it yeah it's basically like a dedicated camera with a very specialized sensor that's really really cool you know i love that it can read multiple fingerprints yeah there's multiple users yeah I can have my babies fingerprint in there it's me awesome oh yeah on the concern with the fingerprint scanner and is that your finger will be chopped off by a nefarious no no no what if it's not that accurate what if you want askance and scan and then it works I mean I don't know I've never used a fingerprint scanner so I wouldn't know no it's going to be like like cutting into a cake with the sharpest knife you've ever used okay so I example I used to I used to have a when I used to my previous job I used to always have IBM computers with with fingerprint scanners and they were very accurate like every single time they would work and it's never stored on Apple servers it's not anywhere in iCloud like your authentication information stays on the device it seems so that's good yeah I wonder how long the device retains so but the device has to hold on to its memory of a of your fingerprint it has to have a control set for a match so if somebody steals your iPhone I hope it's I mean it's got to be encrypted right but yes you will be able to La Liga name level but they won't be able to unlock it anyways hey it's unlocked already and they take it or whatever you know I'm sure there's I'm sure there's a way to get around this and then grab that fingerprint data off your iPhone and then then are you more screwed than somebody getting a chat you can't change your fingerprints it's like somebody stole my password I got to change my fingerprint do all you gotta do is take a razor blade and change this just like a carrot peeler just like ah there we go there's just a lighter burn your finger friendly it's just funny that they're keeping the power button on this phone it doesn't make any sense to have it anymore whatever you can buy yeah my button if you can just unlock the phone with your fingerprint that should be just the only button you have to the prices so the whole button is not going to be a button anymore it's going to be 0 RZ gonna be is it 4 gigabytes uh I does i cried so doing 128 which is kind of surprising and depressing yeah same pricing same storage yeah they're not going to do that is dead been enough 64-bit apps will take up more space relative to the 32-bit counterparts probably not I don't know actually it was the other way around some 64-bit apps would be I remember between the 32 to 64 get a bit architecture some 64-bit apps were actually smaller ok yeah Adam Wright and jelly buyer somewhere like being like what says you're talking about stuff they don't know about on that hey is it me or do these three colors next to each other just look depressing this is just normal or the gold phone looks someone on Twitter posed a very good question you have to take your glove off if you're wearing gloves so how does it work in the winter uh youyou Bostonian you just set a password shoes so don't see the case mean I guess you're gonna have to take a look love off to use the screen anyway because it doesn't have a super sensitive display so they're doing that case not a bumper the case covers the entire back which is pretty amazing cover up all that goodness yeah why is that that's like amazing in the bad way right yeah it is it's very strange iphone 4s lead in the line it up and it's gonna be free the eight gig you go oh but they're dropping it to eight gigs that's actually a set who can live with 8 gigabytes today pre-order starts on Friday whoa whoa wondering why is shipping 13 for that's the 5c right um yeah 5c is available for pre-order on September 13th the 5s and 5c will be available September 20th in stores one can you preorder the 5s pro at an abra on set several 13th they did they're not distinct thing here yeah that's just sep tember 13th pre-order okay I can't wait 10 days what am I gonna do until then yes your iphone 5 because it's exactly the same without a fingerprint screeners this year that I was planning on going name is not a fanboy he's not tell me family I'll find where they left everybody first time that China will get the iphone at launch that's a big deal yeah oh so nobody's gonna get in the United States you're gonna run out of stock by the second day mm-hmm NTT DoCoMo will also be getting the iphone Japan for the first time so they're expanding the footprint significantly let's see if the stocks up on that news izle it's not and it's not gonna raise itself it won't raise itself the whole day comics call me a hater but I'm just not your older way it's gonna have to wait what a low and say call me a hater but I'm not blown away I mean I Taylor you're too young to understand too young listen to as I don't have kids yes Taylor you don't have kids that's why you're not blown away Jim Jim like they don't answer though do I take that in the simple sensor the double sense of what you just said about blown away gross i may i may have so many kids he's so wise and experienced to use the experience of a hundred and fifty year old man just like they keep adding these things that don't really matter to me at all like the fingerprint scanner that's a good implementation that is a good thing it's so funny because I can hook Tim Cook is directly arguing with you with you right now like he's watching this live stream and he just said these iphones are packed with remarkable tech but we've done it in a way that makes it matter to people making things easier we don't just pack in feature after feature so he's making the opposite point a little bit less doesn't matter to you so it doesn't matter to me because I share a lot for example if I'm in the browser and I want to share a link I like to shorten my links so the ability to share a web page to the bitly app would be perfect but I have to copy paste open bit ly page Bobby you know so that's a bit ly is no no no no I get you make an okay point but it looks like these are going to matter to a to a broader spectrum of people than say a similarly limited feature set device like the Moto X like I mean I think it's going to be interesting to see how these compare as far as appeal to regular people right it's gonna blow them away so in our case it's it's it there is a point in using things like bit ly but for the mass majority I'm not just just bit ly anything if you want to share a link to anything outside of email Twitter SMS and Facebook and that's all stock apps if you wanted if you use gmail for example and you want to email a page instead of actually using the stock mail app you can't you have to go into it and you create a go into the gmail app create that a so-so message paste I mean it's just I think that's like five or six steps to every single process you ever want to do but I think that's going to change like for example every time that I there's this new picture frame app that I use um and in the past I would have to create the photo i would have to save it in the camera roll and then go to instagram and upload an Instagram whereas now I create the frame within the app and then I shared directly from there to Instagram it takes me right yet so basically they're putting all of that footwork on the developers instead of just releasing an API where they can say hey hit the share button and you can share to any of these apps each developer has to go in and code support for Instagram where you have to log in to Instagram within this app then you have to log into Facebook within this app you know it's like I get twitter it's like an awful we're getting awful granular here guys I would tune out at this can you guys shut up I'm just saying that that is a big shore coming of iOS so again tim is thinking I'm Bobby there they're wrapping up in cupertino here so I think we should we should think about that they want to return to music though it looks like they're doing a sort of a semi one more thing here yeah maybe uh what's close they talk about itunes at all right i mean we haven't talked about that well this is September I'm surprised they haven't had their September music event oh well they they talked about itunes um the itunes event at the very beginning okay that way Brandon have you used itunes radio uh no I hear it's amazing though right it's really good you know it's it's I just tell it for example it does better prediction of what i like to hear then pandora or that spotify radio i don't know why i think it's it's smart because obviously it's made me buy like 10 songs in the past week shoot all right so there's Oakley I know pull there's no apparently what I want to do something funny let's all see who can look the stillest on video one two three oh come on oh no guys serious come on I've just received confirmation that I'm glad I'm not in cupertino because Elvis Costello is there and I really cares ah alright so you either how many how many viewers we have we have twelve hundred and twenty-seven that's awesome very much for joining and Elvis Costello's on stage and although although most of you guys on here you three don't agree with me a lot of people on YouTube do so at least I have their support network for the first time in history look at this look at this it's a spot for tea here it's just not gonna be filming can you play the world's smallest violin for me yeah Oh so what what's up I don't know guy I feel like we we should have some takeaways here and I kind of I kind of sort of don't know what to do with this event Brandon well let me let me start here the the UM I think that the iPhone 5 is a fantastic phone and I think one of the places that it has a little bit of a short coming is in low light photography and it seems like they might have addressed that and even come up with something innovative with this um this door flash right now i'm using the the HTC one with the google play edition rum and this is an amazing device it's so fast great battery life but the camera sucks I can't take pictures with this I take pictures of my daughter doing funny things I look at them later and i think i missed that moment because this camera sucks i need a phone that has a great camera and here's one that's the boggin funny business the camera that's just the camera sadly that's the that's when you buy a cyber shot it's just a camera for the lumia 1020 is just a camera it doesn't have the apps that I need to live my life and so I can't use that but I would if I could so for me like there's no other choice but to sort of prefer the iPhone because for me it does everything that i need and i think the 5s I don't care about the fingerprint scanner faster is always better and the camera is is a huge thing for me so I'm I'm excited for it what do you guys think I do care about the fingerprint scanner for me it's like even even if you know I think about it i'm looking at my iphone 5 and I'm like well you know there's not even if the camera is better on this 5s it's not like the camera it's not like if the camera on the fog was bad um so I guess the only thing that's nailed me is that fingerprint scanner it's the fact that I won't have to be because i am a password guy i have passwords on everything and I do for particular reasons you know here theft is so high um that you really want to make sure that your information is protected and for me that fingerprint scanner is like foolproof there's just no nothing to worry about anymore and that's really the reason why I wanted unless somebody uses a sacar a cigar cutter their fingers off your finger on you guys kids are watching it's bedtime in some places somebody's I haven't echame of your finger yes you use di like one of those lucky rabbit's foot yeah um so I I have a problem in that I really really think that customization of hardware a customization of build is compelling and I'm a little frustrated that Apple has decided to only do that for the 5c it's kind of perpetuated this really annoying habit of only offering customization features on low to mid-end devices and so now I find myself almost wanting to buy the 5c because I find that one more compelling from a hardware perspective I know I'm not going to do that because I don't want to be left behind on the time though it's like I don't know so that's frustrating to me and i think that uh but but at the same time it's counterbalanced by they i have the more gimmicky features of the 5s are the ones that i prefer that fingerprint scanner i don't i really care about 64 bit i know that this is very important going forward but that fingerprint scanner is going to give me a whole new appreciation for device sensors and things of that sort so I'm jazzed I'm a little annoyed that I'm coming back to iphone on the off cycle you know and it's like it's like oh this is the Refresh are you jest enough to do jazz what out of your misery I'm not what what Brandon Jaime put me out of my misery why do it I Trish cut off my don't get the phone man just send it over come on yeah on a count of three anyone that's jazz do jazz hands why not get up three no I reckon I have I have a kind of asian from where Apple got their inspiration for the cases for the iphone 5c this comes from a friend on Twitter right there there you have it it's just the inspiration like the camera on me for a second yes I hate Crocs oh my god well you can now buy the croc phone from Apple the crackphone the crackphone the iphone 5 croc it's your bro if you couldn't guess I'm not really gonna be too excited over the iphone and people were commenting Taylor's not excited he's bashing the iphone now but he'll probably owned one in a couple months I'll probably owned one next week or on the 20th because that's my job we all love us yeah that's my job and I don't know who's doing the review yet but Brandon see me an email and told me not to sell my other iphone so i don't know i was i phone 5 several months ago that's an interesting question taylor and i want to confirm this on the air with brandon are we we're going to be reviewing both of these that correct we're gonna have to do some arm wrestling some it's a heated debate and or have to read for yourself yeah whatever good the 5s and 5c though we are we are covering both yeah okay wait a second re still alive yes we're still alive yeah I was about to do a drum solo cuz we gotta wrap I think too i think that the first hangout that you did went live I never slinky creative now these are these logistics we can figure that off the air because uh because one of us has to pee yeah I never started the okay and one of us has to cue oh alright so wats honey yeah I just want to conclude this be because we all need to take care of our bodily functions so I just going to wrap this up and say thanks for watching us for the last hour and 15 minutes guys we're going to test these devices compared them to the androids the windows phones of the world and you know it's going to be awesome and there's a there's a lot of us on the team coming back to it for a while we have different perspectives as we always do and it's it's going to be a lot of fun I think there's going to be some some more and more heat in the comments but I think it's going to be very nice as do it all right guys well let's uh let's cut it and see you next time thanks everybody see you thank you
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