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Big Week Ahead With Nokia and Google I/O: Pocketnow Live, Ep. 15

2013-05-10
mm-hmm and we should be live good morning good afternoon good evening everybody welcome to pocket now live episode number 15 from the top of my head I think I'm right I am Anton denied managing editor for public pocket not a town thank you very much for joining us and I have with me today senior editor Joe Levi good morning good afternoon where we are hello and also with me is senior editor Taylor Martin had it howdy you definitely have to teach me how to say that so before how are you doing before we kick this off I have two short announcements to make as usual I will be moderated be live good morning oh my god and I'm hearing myself speaking which is never good and I have no idea where I ok I'm muting myself it's a terrible I feel ok now we should be fine so you should it's it's awful to hear yourself echoing so the first thing I'll I am monitoring the YouTube comments so if you guys have any questions please post them in the youtube channel all caps question and question as well as on pocket now on the posts another announcement is that we will have Joe Levi with us only for the first 30 to 45 minutes so he will have priority and any conversation the topics for today are easy not yet happening on the fourteenth google i/o on the 15th but enough of me I'm gonna hand it over to Joe we don't want to lose any more time so Joe please take before all right I'll do what I can every ones frozen up on my end but person I don't even have names over here ah there we go it's back for a minute so let's start off what are some things that you hope to hear coming out of Google i/o and the Nokia vent let's start off with wu jie zhang did I pronounce that ok yep welcome to the show what what are the things that you hope will get out of those two SMS comments keep getting this echo it's the plague of the echo Tony uh I'm hearing everybody fine without an echo at the moment so I'm getting some weird echo about a minute delayed echo maybe you can see if you have any other windows open where this live show is playing else I'll have to ask everybody if we are not talking to you guys please mute your microphone thank you uh does it be it okay I think we have a problem with with him Joe can we sign up to him and choose somebody else let's move right along so whooshing will come back to you in a little bit let's go next to a-rod tovar tovar welcome to the show tell us what you hope we're gonna get out of Google i/o and our nokia event hey how'd you doing guys really well really I don't know what's going to coming in Google I'd like to know a little more about it I don't hear too many things about that so that's anything from you guys is gonna be better so we'll start off some rumors that we've heard google seems to like to announce new versions of android or at least show off parts of them at Google i/o they're not always available at the conference or immediately after the conference and for a while we were hoping that we were going to get android 5.0 key lime pie at this year's i/o recently we've got some rumors coming up to that may be substantially to get this point that point to not getting key lime pie by point 0 at the show but rather 4.3 which everyone's calling another flavor of jelly bean we ran some articles on that recently about some things HTC is announced or not really announced but let leaked that they're going to be including in their upcoming products with Android 4.3 so maybe we should turn it over and say if we do get 4.3 what kind of stuff are you hoping that we'll get inside that version of Android oh so many games I can wish but I don't know this comes it through really I can't think anything in this moment with yes everything is we get in this moment so far it's been good to the phone and the Android one so you see guys so many videos of all the Holograms hip pads and everything I don't think so that will not be true I don't think so the technology is there J so probably what we can get now is more speed and the processor that's going to be the best in think we just lost Joe we lost this video maybe we got his audio go he still with us I am afraid not and he's gonna have a hard time getting back and I am I'm seeing dublicate people I'm seeing lags and I'm seeing people joining like 55 thousand times so yeah well if our dear guest here is talking to Joe right now has any other questions for myself or for Taylor please go on because we lost you this moment no okay i will say just just quickly that I are we getting echo as well I'm getting a little too and i have no idea from from whom I neither but um it i will probably see babble that's probably them the big thing for android is the unified messaging and chat app which i'm dying for already okay thank you very much for joining us if you have any final thoughts please feel free to let everybody know of them or where you can where they can find you on your social media networks or good morning here in google+ or a lot awesome thank you very much for joining us and they have an awesome weekend take care of it fever please well I see some Tibor thumbnails like jumping like crazy in my status bar please feel free to choose somebody to talk to you okay i'm waiting for names and things that it's going crazy right now you gotta love hang out I can't see much of anything me neither just go played by ear this is gonna be fun yeah all right um I'm gonna pick the first person I see I'm mark to mark Selwyn so so on I don't know how to pronounce names of bad with names how you got it all right sweet so you have any questions for us first and foremost no questions I do definitely have some predictions actually okay I'd love to hear so a couple weeks ago I actually went to Google for a developer meetup they do a lot of those on their campus and one thing that I noticed was being really big and a big on the secrecy was around the Google+ building um and I think unified messaging a service and I think there's a bigger picture i think google is going to go all out and try to fully integrate everything right cuz i think if there's one service that people aren't using the most it's google plus and I feel like they're gonna I think with the next iteration of Android it's going to be a it's basically going to integrate Google+ in a way that's going to essentially force everybody to use it one way or another so for example they could do things like you know they can a great Google+ further with google music and they could do something like you know playlist listening parties or they could do something with google maps where they could you can say hey i'm at this bar right now come join me you know like public like public announcement say like you know this group of friends describe circles are at this place right now come join in things like that so i think i think we're going to see a big push on integration between services especially with Google+ yeah that's something I'm definitely looking forward to it something that that google has failed to do over the past couple of years because they have so many different messaging and communication platforms and none of them are even remotely integrated with one another Joey EU back just just a question yeah I'm kind of back ok good thing I'm working on I'm sorry fact you thinner I think this finally calmed down finally we don't have like 50 people trying to join well yeah and i have my control panel of x which is good not as good but what i was saying is is google has so many communication platforms and none of them are remotely integrated google voice google talk google+ messenger which is kind of the same but different from google talk gmail that there are so many different ways to communicate using google and none of them are integrated there you have to use a different app and a different service for everything and it drives me insane you're not so yeah and another thing i noticed was i recently what I've been you know on the job hunt and you know obviously Google is one of the top places i'd like to work for and I noticed that Google has been ramping up a lot of support and operations for Chrome they I've discovered that they have hired three at least three third-party recruiters and they've been going crazy been hiring a support technicians for the Chrome operating system and chrome Hardware recently so I feel like there's also going to be some sort of big push on Chrome it's always a big push on Chrome that's their money maker yeah part of it I have the thing that Android is going to be taking a back seat at this I oh I think that Android is gonna I think I think they're going to use what they have to you know integrate and build on existing services but I don't think we're going to see anything drastic on the android phone I think it's going to be chrome Google+ and Google glass this year yeah in a way those are all part of Android because it's it's all kind of a unifies to ecosystem so so let me chime in there just for a minute and this is just me kind of brainstorming thinking outside the box a little bit rather than seeing a big emphasis on Chromebook on Chrome proper or on Android I think we may see a lot more integration and tight coupling of services between all of their product offerings on all platforms and that's also going to include all of the iOS stuff that we've seen recently which they're getting some features over there that they're a little bit nicer looking and feeling than than they are in android so I'm really hoping that this IO is going to be about bringing the entire Google experience together regardless of platform regardless of of OS regardless of where you are and I like Taylor think that's going to focus a lot around that you know this product Babel which is going to a project battle which is going to unify as much of the real-time communication services as possible yeah I'm probably wrong but that's what I'm bringing more to the ecosystem versus you know having this broad array of services that don't really play that well together kind of bringing it together and making it an ecosystem then making it awesome yeah and awesome I will use that exact words to describe not only your glasses mark but your microphone is awesome it's even more us and then the microphone I'm using and half of the bucket now team so thumbs up for that you have any final thoughts um no that about does it for the i/o stuff then I'm gonna lock my camera on you so people can see where to find you it's plus Mark Sullivan if I can see right that's your google blossom yep that's the one okay so everybody go at him to his to your circles thank you very much for joining us thank you and that is a nice Mike I have one of those it's very nice thank you figure and Joe back to you but not before I have a question and it's from YouTube sterling man says do you expect windowed apps in android for dot free / 500 most probably the same way and on the same vein as Samsung's multi-window 4.3 no 5 10 possibly I think before we go to full multi window like Samsung's doing we're probably going to see more chat head like experiences where we're getting notifications pop ups and relevant information on top of whatever app is is active and then that will slowly grow out into having other peripheral apps being able to run at the same time as another app but I don't know if Android even in key lime pie is going to see true multi window at least not on the smartphone platform maybe when we get to tablets will see that just my 2 bits yeah but I'm actually exactly on the same page there tablets yes multi window is a great thing it's wonderful for tablets multiple windows on a phone unless you have something the size of the galaxy note 2 or what the rumored size of the galaxy note 3 is it's kind of useless like I can't really get into it on the galaxy s4 or the galaxy s3 and I even struggle with it on the note 2 because you just don't have enough screen to utilize to applications at the same time unless you're using something as lightweight and and free-floating as chat heads that's why I found chat head so impressive it's because it works so well it's it's just boom the load the app loads you do what you need to tap it and it's minimized well it's not just the app that just works it's that it's the metaphor it's the concept it's the way that that information is communicated that whether it's chat heads or whether it's something else that interstitial just work yeah I don't know if you saw the editorial I did we lose Joe again we did oh man this is awful I did an editorial i wrote an editorial on hold on to sport with one second please dboys holdings people please stop trying to join us you obviously cannot you I cannot stop you from joining I can please ask you stop joining because we cannot talk to you and you are taking up half of the slots available thank you very much and I'm sorry that's that's just the way Google sucks yes Google if you see me now you suck back to you tater I'm frustrated because I have no souls i see people coming and going like 55 times per second and i can't do anything yeah it's driving me nuts too but I wrote an editorial saying that you know there are so many other ways that we could implement something like chat heads nice as a beautiful finger you have there um we like Spotify I did a mock-up of a nap it was Spotify and if I can if you can lock it on me I'll try to get it on here just as you are locked all right I will I have to find this first so and we got your back thank God yeah yeah uh I don't know what is happening on my way knows what happens so let's play by ears it's the thrill of being live it's part of the experience I think I'm frustrated enough for the entire team and the participants yeah oh my god of fire who we are watching Taylor looking for something and having no idea what he looks for and let me lock the camera on meds because he said something yes Google sucks and i agree with you very much for letting us know can't you are lost again here to give up I don't think I can find it I don't know what happened still lots oh sweet ok let's let's move on Joe still still your turn you know since I'm having connectivity problems correct ok let's go back to your first goal because I see him waving at he probably solve his problems mujhay jang or I'm sorry wu jie zhang yeah hello we can go ahead we've got yeah yeah hey nice to be back finally uh google other than what's happened after the update uh yeah the google i/o i guess is next week and I have a question uh do you think anything's going to happen with Android this time cuz you know nexus 4 has been released not for back so you think they're gonna release something to do with Android or they're gonna do something else with the i/o this time okay okay so we kind of talked a little bit previously about what we expect from android the OS on it sounds like your question is more towards the hardware I I don't suspect that we will see a nexus 5 or a nexus 4 refresh at this IO however I would not be surprised if we saw a refreshed Nexus 7 and that might be extra ram M it might be faster processor it might just be a big nexus for whatever the case may be I suspect we'll get a refresh of that and that is where they will show us the the new version of Android again probably 4.3 are you on the same page there Taylor um I don't know I don't know if I want to make a prediction cuz I I don't want to say that there's not going to be Android 5 this time around I love for the tube because we've been on Android for 42 years now so I'd like to see Android 5 finally I'd like to see what I'd like to pick Matias Duarte his brain and see what's going on because he's completely radically changed Android from what it was so who I'd like to see something major of course I think we all do we want that shock and awe but realistically they did so much in jelly bean and ice cream sandwich that I don't know if we're ready for five yet so and there there's not going to be a new handset not a new android handset at Nexus or at the Iowa Conference i refresh on the Nexus 7 is very likely so that's that's probably it it's going to be modest and we're all going to be upset but it'll be good but a lot of the Magna services and the services that allow us and get us find so we can actually run it on hardware one thing I really want Google to do right now with andrew this defragmentation issue so I'm hoping that next version of android they finally address it because my phone is in what 4.1 point2 and I'm guessing it's not going to be updated for next few months after new Android comes out so that's what I was hoping from I I oh yeah um that's that's a tough one because you've got so many different manufacturers and devices and and strains of Android that it's not exactly easy to just throw out a it's all solution mmm they've done some great things with you know the android update alliance the android partner what was that one Joe I can't remember what it was but they they basically agreed to send the updates before they're finished to manufacture so they can start building the updates before the whole version of Android rolls out I think they promised to send out updates at least 18 months with 18 months after yeah that was the the android update alliance but there was one last year it was partner update something I can't remember what but they chose specific partners that will get software updates before the update is finished so say key lime pie is still six months out motorola samsung HTC and all the biggest manufacturers will have it before the update rolls out so it's ready to go once it comes out but yes there it is platform developer kit Thank you Thank You Silas I expect we we're seeing from HTC the leaks that we're seeing from HTC I suspect that they Samsung LG who else am I missing from the list but those are the big three that I think are in that alliance that are not only getting the updates but actively working towards being quote unquote launch partners for the next version so they'll if Q imagine that I haven't heard this in the news anywhere but when that Oh s is announced that all three of these partners have products that are going to either new products that are either going to come with it or existing products that are going to have updates for it available within 24 48 72 hours after the announcement of the new OS be phenomenal that would be awesome the downside like that is we get leaks like HTC is doing where we we see hey there's two new features that are probably going to be in 4.3 yeah there's that and then there's also carrier carrier approvals which is a rigorous process that takes months yeah that's the biggest that is androids biggest issue is that every update has to go through a rigorous approval process even if it's a bug fix it has to go through approval let's please speeding along yeah so yeah um so do you have another question one final daughter anything to more day the by the way I try to settle on one okay uh Tony last time I been on the Hangout when you were in mwc I showed you this phone the original Galaxy S yes nice yeah that's running cm 10.1 right now I Cape this my brother and I got you this no 20 nice that's nice and I'm saying this right now this is the best one I ever had but sadly is going to be my last Samsung device for a while oh now you have to tell me about why it will be your last and some device uh well right now I have this phone which is my first epiphone which for samsung so love that yeah this is my samsung jet so i abstain least something for three phones in a row and i really want to try other phones I mean d I really want to try HTC oh yeah by the way tired Taylor you're not the only one who want it who want HTC to make next Nexus I really want them to make one all right I think Joe is also a huge yeah yeah nexus one was amazing it wasn't most it was really beautiful phone anyway yeah so yeah this is steadily going to be my last samsung phone for a while is it because you want diversity after so many phones or is it because Samsung did something which you don't like or no longer like well diversity yes and also samsung they have so many blog without the new stud is cumbersome yeah there's the family right there oh yeah galaxy s3 s4 in the note 2 is my family s long note as samsung jet all right version so yeah go ahead take it away Tony no I was I was just locking my camera on Joe he was showing his back and the QR code on it and that i'm showing not the QR code but the HTC logo no the HTC g2 i love her I love stuff awesome phone anyway yeah hospital so yeah it's my phone now and I'm stuck with it for two years well hopefully bye-bye 2015 when you get unstuck with it samsung will be who knows where an HTC will be who knows where do you have any final thoughts you would like to share with us not really that's all i can think of yeah good thank you very much for joining us and i will please have to kindly ask you to leave so that we can free up a slot because four of the slots are being taken my place holders my people who are trying to join so I'm sorry yeah take care bye bye here and before up I have no idea whose turn it is are you at Anton you look very mad you think I am mad okay I have no control panel I had no control and who is God who is going out I cannot flip my hair yeah this is a rhetorical question where is Taylor's hat they look it's in the other room I wanted to show the world that my head does not have fabric attached to it that is good because another commenter society or Martin looking good without the head but here we go here we have something awesome from Joe all right yes I'm locked on you you're so you're so inspector gadget ish I can't wear it and the headset at the same time so i apologize i got to lose the fedora okay if it is my turn i will like to talk to somebody since we have talked only about google i would like to talk to somebody who is excited about the nokia event on the 14 for which I will be attending on the show floor and hopefully with lots of video so who is excited about Windows Phone and about Nokia's event raise your hand not so we display the cricket sound yes how about I talk to kill Martin okay not yeah I tried he could see this recording let's talk cielo beat back we you're showing off your Lumia you also showed me your HTC One I'm yo yes hi hi so first of all my museum okay okay show us Lumia 920's you see one and the beautiful awesome plastic es4 with the yellow color that yellow looks nice yes it's so fresh and some are you know what I like yellow so I like this these two IL so you see are you another console you get the same old iphone 5 so that's all old school yeah last but not least the I plans but no so I have a question for you yes please uh nokia so do you think a new flagship is really needed now to bring back the name of and prestige of Nokia in this period where all flagships have come out you know the s4 HTC one ok iphone will look on with the new WWDC so really just note you need a top shelf you know top tier phone model or is it enough to bring up middle class you know like Sen 2625 training and all I basically I personally think that it is now the time for a flagship because the Lumia 920 was announced summer in October last year so that's October November December January February March April May that's eight months back so it is now time for a flagship I'm not sure they will announce the flash and here's why if the EOS which has been rumored for so long we'll have a for you 40-something megapixel camera I'm not sure windows phone 8 and its current iteration supports that high resolutions but again nakia might show the EOS off and say hey guys this will be available in august but yes the answer your question I think it is time after eight months we had a nokia windows for pledge doing this famous or joe disagree or agree please feel free to complete my answer windows phone 8 will support 1080p by the end of the year does not currently so there is that so it doesn't currently only supports up to 720p if i'm not mistaken right now so tell you think that the for the market share it'll be kind of problems 24 we just want you know what do you think i don't know i mean 1080p is it it's easy fundamental are it's beautiful it's beautiful it's not Isis airiness it's not necessary but it is absolutely beautiful in people are saying you know you can't distinguish the difference between something with 300 ppi and something with 450 and you absolutely can again side by side if you use them you can see a significant difference but it's not enough to get upset over because 720p is still extremely high and a phone and especially with something not five inches or 5.5 so you have a 4.5 inch phone and 720p is really all you need it looks phenomenal yeah I don't have it here but i'm charging my nexus 4 and the screen is very good you know yes so some Jenny p but that's more than more than okay right so yeah you don't you don't necessarily need 1080p but yeah for the marketing that's one thing that's gonna hold it back is you don't have it it's not it's not the fact that you need it it's that it's not possible right now so you didn't have anything to boast that's my show you mean phone nokia it's different from google right because google might not even push out a new nexus in the i/o what do you think is it really necessary for google or they don't need it because they have the whole mo sixty percent market share so it's more important for second-tier phones right like Nokia HTC yeah it's important for nokia right now but because they don't necessarily have much competition the s4 is out the one is out there's nothing pending that that really stands in its way and that's what really makes this important because they've held off they didn't announce it at CES they didn't announce it immoral congress they opted to wait to have this kind of shallow not shallow but calm before the storm release so for them it's important google not so much because they just released something new and in november so so they might not push out another one right another nexus yeah yeah they won't unless they won't push out an update to the nexus 4 they may start a multi nexus family like a brand a family like a phone brand that's something that we there were rumors of several years ago two years ago saying that google was going to create a family of Nexus phones not Nexus devices but just phones that you would see a Samsung HTC motorola and LG Nexus all in one year and that would be amazing I would have no I would probably hey I would probably faint in front of a computer if that happened yeah you know what report also why do you think of so do you think you'll Taylor Oh Anton and job what about the X phone is it really becoming a legend or will you never one day or the other or what happened to this thing it's a unicorn I'd love to see it I'd love to see another motorola phone yeah they've kind of fallen off the map lately so yeah I'd love to see it but I don't know that's impossible to answer it is and i agree with taylor right now we have no idea I'd like for it to become a reality but who knows yeah there's a there's a question on YouTube that I have to to bring up like what about a 4k phone she said like 75 that's something that I said after the first 1080p phone was announced I was like so when is the 4k phone coming out and so most focused loans will be presented in TSU no nada not in Mobile World Congress right yeah um you'll see 4k phones when we have 4k projectors in forms and they project on a wall because you need for K and something that's five inches because then you definitely can't distinguish anything you're just wasting power and pixels and everything else you're lucky brendan is not here because he'll tell you that yes you need for K on a fatty you'll need for cake and I three inch phone I need for k on my pebble I was just gonna say that Taylor and while you install a pebble uh Taylor Martin watch face yet hold on oh he's dead I'm locking on you I'm so locking on you now I was about what I sure when I saw the picture and your valency as before review I was about to leave a comment saying that's so gay but I'm gonna make it live here its undies you miss good miss the Twitter conversation that Michael had right probably yeah he said we're growing apart and I said how can we grow apart when you're on my wrist he's just like five words oh yeah that's how that's how we work together as a team with people like Michael all right so if I good oh nice right thank you I want to jump in and this is going to be my my parting thought so if you'll forgive me i'm going to talk for about five minutes straight you're going back to to android devices know if i were a betting man we're not going to get a new nexus at i/o or new nexus phone at i/o we're probably not going to hear anything about the motorola x phone in fact the latest rumors are they're pushing that off onto its own self rather than kind of keeping it underneath the Google wing so we might see that that dovetails into what Taylor was saying about having a multi om Nexus family and and really I think that may be becoming more of a reality we're seeing more and more OEMs releasing developer phones or unlocked phones HTC just did that and you can use it on any carrier including LTE I wrote a piece on that what was it last week Tony that there the OEMs are disconnecting themselves from the carriers that's a good thing in my opinion because it means the carriers aren't going to have less of a say in what the hardware is and we the people are going to have more of a say they're also going to have less of a stranglehold on updates and patches in that whole qualification to make sure that the devices work on their network because come on we've got standards here it works they work and OEM is not going to embarrass themselves by releasing something that doesn't work well they say it does on LTE well they could but you know these are big names or not I'm not gonna do that and if they do they're going to fix it rate really fast hey the jelly bean update was a jelly bean or ice cream sandwich I can't remember but there was an update for the yes I think it was ice cream sandwich bricked it it rich like tens of thousands of units you upgraded and your phone was done so so congratulations you get a new one is that point it no it was I late they get the silent treatment from google wow your update broke my phone oops okay so moving over to uh to nokia now and i'll wrap up with that windows phone doesn't support 1080p right now however we might see a nokia device that supports 1080p just not in the core OS it may be 720 or whatever they are in their OS but video including whatever interrupt you here Joe and ask you the following question yes if if Nokia is the primary partner for Microsoft what if Nokia already has access to windows phone 8 point something Windows Phone blue whatever and they can test the EOS on it with full 1080p screen and support for huge sensors for a camera they might show it off they might not allow for hands-on and say this is what will be available in September I think that's a very good possibility I think without ticking off everybody else who makes a windows phone they may come out with a hybrid which is where I was going where you'll have a video you'll have both visible and and photographic video available in 1080p but not on the rest and that will kind of be the stepping stone to get everybody else up to 1080p and of course nokia is going to be the first to have full 1080p in the entire OS and i'm hoping that's what we'll see at the nokia event yo but it's quite sad that that nokia has to undergo the decisions of microsoft right so yes all in it that's that's what you're gonna have sacré soft and microsoft is the hybrid between android and and the way android does things are google blessings with Android and the way Apple does things like I OS with Apple it's an apple OS on Apple hardware at the end on Android it's it's google's OS that they can change however they want on whatever Hardware they want to change however they want and right in the middle you've got microsoft saying this is our OS these are the things that you can do to it and nothing else but you can go ahead and put it on your own hardware so that's that's kind of cool and it goes all the way back to windows mobile when they were doing the same thing they're not going to change that and really that I think allows them to have the best of both worlds and it's it's something that nobody's really talking about it gives Windows Phone a lot of leverage that neither of the two competition has and they need to really emphasize on that and build on that strength if they want to succeed yeah can connect actually circle back to Google i/o really quick let's do that before before we we say goodbye to Joe because I know he has to go correct me if I'm wrong Joe yeah I'm about two minutes out from having to leave okay can we can we have another observation from theater and then your final thoughts yeah i'm just i'm actually just dropping this in EV Luke leaks just put this on Twitter this is something that that I mean an update we could see it at i/o it's not really a beautiful new phone but it's a smaller bezel on what looks like the Nexus 4 of course we lost your video and now we yeah yeah um here see if this hopes okay now we have it yeah okay so it looks like a nexus 4 with almost no bezel so if if nothing else we could see maybe a nexus 4 with less busy talking about the Nexus 4's yeah basically LTE smaller bezel on George with Siri what's with Siri and with this I have to hand it over to Joe please use the following minutes whatever you like however you like i just did i already had all that but I the up coming announcements whatever they bring our they're going to bring new stuff we don't want to to be too disappointed in what they don't bring that we wanted and instead let's look at what we did get and and see how we can utilize those to the best of our advantage regardless of what platform we use or what platform we like ultimately we're all one big community and we want to better that community independent of platforms okay Joe thank you very much for finding the time to join us you have to leave I'm gonna lock my camera on you nine now please follow joe at Joe Levi on twitter if you have not already done so Joe thank you very much for joining us and I wish you will have a awesome weekend all right thanks very much guys quickly we get an ETA on the Joe Levi pebble watch face that will be the very last of all of the pocket now crew and it may never happen okay yeah if you you want to see a pocket now face on a SmartWatch let me know on my Twitter feed at Joe Levi who should be the next pocket now face on the pebble I'll make that 10 at reply Joe Levi and tell him you want to see his face on your walk upright thanks everybody take care gel letter to also thank you very much debug if you have thank you last final thought please let us know one last final thought i watch i watch well that's an interesting concept everybody wants to get in on the SmartWatch business samsung has been in in the smart business for like three or four years now of course pebble revolutionized that I think if Apple comes out with i watch they will probably have an angle or a product which will bring something new to the market as they usually do but i have no predictions on that because i have no idea how i would use a SmartWatch so very taylor who yeah maybe taylor who has one can can say more yeah um there's rumors that google there are rumors that google is creating a SmartWatch and that apple is so um they're looking for an angle they don't want to do exactly what pebble has done or what anyone else has done they want something that that really makes it you know pushes it over the top because getting your notifications on your watch at school I wear my pebble every day I don't go a minute without it but there are so many other things that I wish I could do with it for instance if I could just not have placed a call but if it had a microphone on it to where I could Google search from my watch and be amazing I would I would swim for days over that I'm google now and Siri on a watch would be phenomenal it'd be great because they just used your phone power that the data and all the other stuff you just talk to your watching and Google search without ever pulling your hair would it bring up the results on the display on your watch I don't yeah yeah uncle or speak them to you mean you would look more weird than I did last time when I was with the s4 out in public and I was like doing this with the phone and this and this and everybody was like laughing my control desperately so yeah or your phone pad at the club oh my god is open so please don't get me started um and it would look weird I admit but it's something that I've thought about like you know just look at my phone and think here my watch and think you know just google search from there vibha I don't know okay thank you probably dies when you guys take care have a nice weekend same to you bye bye guys bye before I hand it over to Taylor I have a question or maybe it's a thought on YouTube what if Nokia made eos with Android instead of Windows Phone that's not gonna happen nokia and stephen elop made that very clear they have chosen windows film because exactly they want to differentiate themselves from the other OEMs which android would not allow them to so we're going to backtrack pleased not in my opinion while Stephen Elop is at the Helms and that yes Taylor it's your turn you want to complete my and choose yeah okay yeah that and Android as i explained on was it though weekly this week or last week I don't know as some live show but androids image sensing is subpar it there are some features that just simply are not coded into the capabilities of Android such as shutter speed and all sorts of other things that make software for cameras better so Google has a lot of work to do if they want to be a reputable camera brand which is no viable there are cameras out there powered by Android but until Google codes these things into the operating system will see mediocre results galaxy camera for example it's a perfect example galaxy s4 zoom that is what that ok tato ok so let's move on we're gonna pick a regular because we're gonna keep that ratio I guess it's like you cool with that Tony I have to have to go with jenessa because she said I look great without a hat and everyone else said my head looks weird without a hat so thank you thank you everyone you do not remember that I had actually I'm doing this thanks a little it might be those it might be the phone behind me this it's making my head look a little more normal it's really weird shaped promise so um I'm going to turn it around and actually ask you what do you predict form from IO or even the Nokia vent either one your choice or both well for nokia i'm sorry but i have issues with nope yeah then deciding to go solely on Windows Mobile it's just I don't know and I don't expect much from them I mean they did I came up with the phones but I don't I don't see them as interesting or something that I will keep up with and with google i/o i came here in that there's not going to be a mean and it's not going to be the key lime pie update and they're gonna delay it so oh my god the like sweet Jesus yeah there's a lot going on right now yeah and well I don't know that why are they going to do like oh let's give you this and that other update and you're good okay bye so I don't know oh wow whatever to the entire situation cuz I'd rather wait for it to happen to see if they're gonna announce something that is worth you know time to talk about my stuff I did forget about something I think we all forgot about something and it was I think last year maybe maybe 2011 I can't remember but it was I think matias duarte and Andy Rubin maybe were saying that there were game-changing features coming to Android into the next couple of updates so that was when ice cream sandwich was first coming out or right before it came out so there was ice cream sandwich jellybeans and jelly bean had some great features but not necessarily game-changing so could this be what they were talking about key lime pie are they delaying it or playground or the playground yeah there are a lot of things that that Google is talked about that we've I guess forgotten about that hasn't happened yet okay official announcement I'm going to lay back and I'm gonna stop managing this chat because whatever i do it is in vain so please let's come let's see anarchy can we sing a love song for Tony can whatever we all collectively sing I people out switching cameras it doesn't work so well they said you're taking as a joke you're just laughing it off I'm suspecting for you to be like you know what it's canceled this closes thought this thing you can just forget it try peace out no that's me because I usually take everything the hard way and I put it to the heart and whatever I do I put a lot of heart and soul into it like this bucket now live show and now I've given up on it so please this is this this week has been or this this podcast or show has been kind of I don't know my nerves are on edge right now I down my call me like you have to just lay back and just laugh it off and be like that's what i doing right now because it is not worth your energy I mean uh has crashed on me like three four times so far and I just say ah close or wait for it I'm like let me click away for it because it takes me a lot to get into this hangout I can't say everybody I can see a spinning wait beach bill and everything I cannot see I can hear you but that is also good it works yeah as long as I can hear everybody I'm good but oh my god this update is killing me I thought I was gonna find a setting that I could turn off all the animations those little circles going up and down was lagging the crapper you have this this update is not Google's best hang out update that's for sure it is um this was totally broken hangouts were totally broken last night so we weren't even sure if we were gonna be on air today so I was thinking cuz i never saw a tweet like you guys always sweet something really already like a day Oh before I don't know but um do you have any questions for myself for Tony oh well no actually I can't I thought the was gonna there wasn't going to be any hang out today because again I didn't see any tweed like yesterday or something but guess it happened but I don't have any pretty quick I don't have any questions there's the ohio thing what I get one you guys were posting things about the Google Franco playground that maybe it's a council may be something I was like oh no oh sweet Jesus know how so cause no man it's too hard to compete with Xbox in the playstation 3 and even though we the way is like to the side right now and still is like selling pretty well because everyone is you know liking the whole playing with your body but you have xbox what is it called live the kinect yeah the kid yeah and everyone is loving the kinect so ground think console is not gonna work when i play video games just because i want to be lazy meat stuff like that it's fun you just laugh your ass off at people that's what I it's fun to watch where yeah the hope playground thing it's they're gonna if they're gonna get involved in the video game world I hope they do something right because if they don't they're gonna get they're gonna crash and burn and everyone's they're gonna get help from everybody some big companies that fall flat on their faces with new products facebook home for example oh my god oh 1 million dollars banner what one will you download because everyone download the game it does the I'm sorry the thing and then be uninstalling cuz I got it I got I'm not big and I was ok fine and then I kept getting the balls i'm like no i didn't know i want this what is it 1 million downloads with a billion monthly active users is a very small percentage exactly but it also fell from top 100 apps on Android to like top 400 or something it's like tight it's in like 380 or something out that's in like two weeks so yeah it's it's a it's a flop um so I I'm guessing that you were not a supporter of oh yeah the the android-powered game console that was independent I'm still waiting on mine to come in I was one of the first couple thousand of back earlier couple thousand backers and there are a lot of people who have gotten theirs and I had not received mine yet well as being wonders about patience my friend yeah right patience for my pebble i pre-ordered a year ahead of time patience for leap motion i pre-ordered for that a year ago and i won't get it until the end of june or july oh I gotta stop pre-ordering oh ok so any final thoughts no I'm saying is that people that like really excited about it vago oil and the nokia ventures calm yourself don't expect much because I expect that was the last time I expect that a lot was from I'm song and I got punched in the face really bad without a sport it is a good phone for those who go fanboys because my friend that I got into this and so let's hang out he gives me all kinds of hell because I don't I don't I'm not in love with Samsung and it isn't their phone but I was highly disappointed because in SF first of all I have an allergic reaction to the word fanboy whenever I see the word fanboy and comments i ban people so yeah that's true and people come come at me like why did you bear me I told you respect people bamboo is not a word which I accept no but seriously I have the s4 and I was one of the biggest critics of the s4 on the pocket now team even before the s4 came out and I have the s for now and I'm saying the s4 is a solid awesome phone if you like plastic haha it all comes down yeah it all comes down to to whether you you like a lightweight phone versus a phone which is the HTC One which feels more substantial but out of the if you compared the galaxy s4 with the HTC One the s for kicks the HTC one's ass in terms of camera quality and then again the HTC One kicks the s4 SAS in terms of audio quality and the feel in the hand so no light flow like the low light on masking tape nobody takes low light pictures I mean let's let's be real here out of one there use the flash right just you just go outside out of 100 pictures to our low light so that's two percent of pictures are low lightly the rest is just pictures which I want to see crisp in detail can I show or can I share something that I did with the s4 please really quickly so in the review the comments are like oh you didn't use the night mode for the low light shots oh you're you're stupid and I you're a fan boy so um actually I did use the night mode and I actually uploaded one of those pictures into the review if i can find that folder cheese i have way too much on my computer um so give me just a second okay go ahead sir thing uh I don't like the word either because um I'm considered a career bitch Michael Fisher I think he called me uh one of the hangouts i was called HTC fangirl but I'm not I HTC but I do recognize when other brands are good we had a hangout with the min ago which he's doing really well and he said that somebody had to call Taylor taytay I don't know why yeah we're talking about it and it is true you in order for it to be a friend person of a certain brand you will have to have every product in your house from that brand and I have a TV that is from Santa I have a phone that is HTC anna i have a whole other bunch of things there are different brands that i'm not branded Oh totally to HTC I do recognize when other companies do well on certain things thaler you are locked all right this is the one of the low light shots that i posted in the review and this was taken with the night mode and if you would just take a second and look at my friends arm it doesn't matter how much this video stream is compressed his arm looks like an oil painting oh I can top that you know that was that was like the the best low light shot I could possibly get there's the value you have to teach me how to share a picture here just like you add your overlay your your little own Idol thing doesn't just load the picture in there instead of you're going to go to hangout toolbox and instead of custom overlay I'm gonna choose the file which I have just downloaded and guys I am all also tweeting this out if you want to see it I'm not sure can you guys see it no not yet I have tweeted it anyways google hangout is not working so i'm gonna lock my camera on you in case you guys that's a low-light picture-taking with the night mode on the HTC One beautiful I know right you look like you have like I don't know pots or something if you go to my Twitter account which is right there I'm not sure if you can see it or not but I'm gonna try to show it to you it is right can we just say that low light on most phones is bad and you know light is not something which smartphones should do they should automatically fire off the flash and that's that should be under the limitation of our phones just go to my Twitter you have the full-sized image and you can see this big pixels yeah well to that end I hate flash I never ever ever ever ever use flash the first thing I do and I open the camera app as I turn flash off and I make sure it stays off but um the best way to deal with a night shot is exactly what Nokia did optical image stabilization and the slower shutter speed yes that is also correct but we have to agree on the fact that and a small sensor size which is probably smaller than your your little fingers fingernail you cannot get some ordinary low-light performance no this thing this thing with a sensor that Sagittarius hold on donessa first of all there's there's the picture I've been talking about and you can see awful awful noise and pictures on my left hand on my right hand on my face and you know what it wasn't so dark either so it was it was an interesting situation and then now I'm gonna lock my camera on failure due to show us yeah yeah yeah even with a camera with a sensor this size which takes phenomenal pictures i love this camera but even with a camera with a sensor this size many of the night shots are pretty bad and noisy unless you have a tripod so there's no you're not going to get it out of a phone much less that is karai 434 unless you know what you're doing be nice out as much as I love seeing my own picture will have to portable hey do you have any final thoughts I guess that's it I just and I'm advising everyone to not get your hopes up okay duly noted but still keep your fingers crossed I will be flying to London to see whatever nakia has to offer and I'll be probably busting my ass to get you some hands-on videos and some comparison videos so fingers crossed it's something important and something cool we know exactly why you'll be rushing Tony so you can finish and go to the open bar that's for alive after hours but now looking much for joining us and we know you'll come back next week please do that thank you very much nokia throws awesome parties by the way have a nice evening and weekend tater still your term before somebody says taylor you are awesome but you already know that somebody says man Taylor Anton he said the F word I should probably do that question for Anton why did you choose a sous phone pad instead of the samsung galaxy note 8.0 with the earpiece because of the simple reason that samsung galaxy note 8.0 piece is not available in my region and samsung did not reply to my request for reviewing one very easy and very straightforward and with that please taylor take it away I'm gonna have to choose Matt because I can pronounce his name and he has some serious cans on his head right now and he is it well not one of the few people who has video-enabled and are not place holders so that is also a valid argument so have you anointed yourself how's it going um Wow going pretty doesn't look that way okay hear me yes I can't I don't know if Tony and I can I cannot hear anybody except for Taylor no well I can hear you summer and that's all we can we can talk privately and they can just see us yeah commute you still can't hear him Tony no no I cannot until then let's let's try to talk to ya knees he's from the great resource a circle back matt is that alright alright I have no idea how you can hear them and i cannot i have no idea that makes no sense all right I'm not gonna try to pronounce your name yes hello phone toes I yeah I'm doing my best here from my Greek knowledge but it's not good enough I'm guessing at I try not to slaughter names as often as possible um so how are you great I hope looks fine you guys oh I'm doing wonderful I've had way too much coffee today and I'm great and you love the new google hangout yeah I'm finding I night with us that is awesome you're great so what do you expect from google i/o or at least what are your hopes even if you know that there's not going to be a whole lot or even though we don't think there's going to be a whole lot what are you hoping will be there ah the new nexus 7 i've decided to my primary devices in the view of 7 inch tablet then or into the 4.5 inches I've via the IO edition from last year with pink stains all over it are you going to hear well no I didn't go last year either I just my my former boss gave me the tablet so he was cunning so um I'm actually hoping the in cream though tablet-optimized apps and all that are they updated the design guideline the I saw your article but I really I'm really disappointed because well ipod apps are like it could implant more they are um that's why i use this as my primary tablet actually so unfortunately ipad apps or a little bit less functional I mean especially like when you're rooted you get so many so much potential and all that especially now with the chat head that's going to be too hard to make of and I'd like to ask you what do you think whether Google should go introduce a splash screen for every app sputtering so the animation be smooth consistently and especially a permit to your phone just move the hell out of the whole thing so are you talking a splash screen for when you're resuming a nap so if you switch to recent apps and you switch over it it displays a splash screen just shortly or you do you mean a splash screen for when you open them at the app initially yeah was that just that good I think they did that they that was a requirement i know it was a requirement on iOS but i think they had that before and then they said don't use splash screens Watson um I don't remember exactly what may have been a whole durability a security vulnerability I can't remember let me see flash creams done right maybe it wasn't a vulnerability maybe it was just because all the developers did terrible splash screens I think that was it um I don't know but I know there were a lot of people saying death to splash screens a while back Sam I don't know the other feature really really like to see visions I love zhou gong makers and android so looking like an S Pen Stylus how wakem stylist instead of a wacom wacom however you pronounce it yeah vs capacitive stylus cos capacitive stylus is just no better than your finger but yeah that'd be great I'd like to see that and welcome back to all the crazy nonsense going on in the Hangout I'll joining left and right I am actually trying to bring some order into this entire energy and I'm not managing and kicking out the placeholders I have like one person three instances another person three instances I'm trying to kick them out and they come back again so i might as well just get back to my leaning back enjoying the Hangout like i was a regular YouTube viewer but at least here I have the show here yeah thanks sorry panic um ask Tony a question yesterday yes yes please go on um time do you think the average user will a few more youth with the sport megapixel or with the HTC one of movie making software well the movie making software is I'm sure you're referring to the Zoe's and the highlight everything they are awesome features for four cameras and you can use them in so many creative ways but if you are that kind of person who goes outside whether if it's high king in a club at a party or just carrying your phone in your pocket and you want to capture that one great shot I would recommend the galaxy s4 the galaxy s4 is much better than the HTC One in terms of camera quality and yeah if you're outdoors definitely absolutely totally agree also if you do automatic picture uploads through say Google+ or Dropbox or any other automatic uploads if you use the Zoe function you're gonna get 25 pictures in a queue what a 30 other what so if you do like 345 Zoe's back to back it's just it cranks them out it's awful your battery just plummets now I'm telling you guys I'm seeing and I'm usually seeing myself as on one side a reviewer and on the other side a typical smartphone user and as a smartphone user out of 100 pictures I am usually taking up to five maybe up to 10 pictures in low light mode be the other pictures are either with flash or and bright outdoor and these under these circumstances the s4 is a much better camera yeah um I do I have to have one part that just kind of irked me with the s4 I I'm in my office right now this is my home office and it's relatively bright in here I've got the window and I can open the shades a lot more soon make it brighter I had this the shade open and my desk is right over here mm-hmm and I was trying to take a picture of my I've had many on the disc and it was like the phone just could not handle it it just didn't capture enough light and there's a logical explanation for that and it's actually that the the 13-megapixel camera is the same sensor or at least a similar sensor to the 8 megapixel sensor and the s3 and basically all they've done is slim down or make each individual pixel smaller smaller so the problem is that you capture less light so in scenarios that aren't necessarily low light you get this noise and artifacts that was my biggest complaint and this is very very strange you bring this up because I have seen your camera samples and I also seen Michael Fisher's camera samples and I am rocking the galaxy s4 which is the octa-core version so it's not the Snapdragon version and there are some comments on YouTube and on the Internet in general that the octa-core version has a different imaging sensor so I've tried to replicate as much as I could all the scenarios and all your setups which you had and and the galaxy s4 this one took good pictures I mean this is the the galaxy s4 is as close as it gets for me and comparing it with the Nokia 808 PureView I mean it's not a tie but it's as close as it gets to the PureView yeah the the color reproduction is phenomenal it's extremely accurate and true to life i will say that um also the panoramic shots Brandon was helming I have to compare the same exact panoramic shot with another phone but the panorama on the galaxy s4 rivals the panorama on my nex-5n not not it's not just a clear win obviously but it doesn't do it doesn't downsample like you get on a panoramic shot on the iPhone 5 or and here's where I will disappear the iphone via has the best panorama taking capabilities and the output among go phones it's good but did you download the full resolution panoramic shot at and put on the review it's a 23 megabyte file yeah it's here and it's it was 55.6 megapixels I've never had a you know why because because all the other phones the galaxy s4 and HTC One and the other state panorama shots in landscape like this and the iphone 5 takes them in portrait so it adds more more frames in portrait mode to that same panorama like other phones would have in landscape and that's why I do all my pen rebbetzin and portrait if possible because you just get a better yeah better shot but I have never seen a phone take such great panoramic shots I've done it with iphone but I haven't extensively used in panorama but still I was extremely impressed just by the color reproduction on the phone or the camera um someone asked using both the HTC one in the galaxy s4 which is the smoothest phone with less or no lie it was about I was about to ask you that question yeah um okay it's it's hard to say definitively because there are so many different versions and tony has used them both as well he's used the octa-core s4 and the HTC One and I've used the s4 and the one with both the 605 dragon 6-under processor and out of the box with all the things just enabled as they are straight out of the box the HTC one x is less the s4 received an over-the-air update that made it less buggy and laggy while we were in a you know in the review period and it performs a lot better now if you turn off all the features on the s4 such as air view air gesture smart screen and all those different things if you turn all those off they're about the same and I leave them enabled it's going to be totally different I will again a little bit disagree here I just sent you guys a couple of emails I have tried to keep everything on the SS strange as it may sound and I could not get my octa-core to lag so it might all come down to the number of homescreens you are using I me already already using 2 i've bumped it up to three still no legs but if you use maybe four or five you might get that one frame being skipped whenever you get to the home screen but out of the box the octa-core galaxy s4 and the HTC One you cannot tell the difference there are they they're both the same yeah I'm gonna try to I don't remember how to turn off s voice I get extremely difficult long hold on the home button and whenever s voice launches go to the menu settings and then you tell it to not wait for a lawyer on the home button button and while you do that I'm gonna ask yiannis if he has any final thoughts or questions for me or for frontier I'd like just ask you what you think will happen to the Google integrations between the services my youtube account totally good weight this week it won't be too long switch to my Google+ name I don't want people to know like comments and videos on YouTube and yeah all the world clarion through this thing i will be honest with you i have not understood the question Taylor did you manage to get the question yeah I think he's asking um are you asking if you're going to be basically forced to switch your youtube account to your real name or I'm not affect work what do you think will happen with the Google services integration integration with one with everything whole cloth your YouTube and all this candidate happen no I think I got it I think that Google tries to have everything unified under a single login or a single profile so whenever you do on one end it reflects on all the other ends and I don't think there's anything you can do to fight it yeah if that time I I think you'll still be able to opt out of you know the youtube name changing thing but up to a point when they'll force it over you yeah they may eventually so that's unfortunate for people who don't yeah thanks for being here Yanni's thank you very much and have an awesome evening I know you're on the same time zone as myself so they care good night I have a nice weekend bye-bye dinner have you found it yes um I was just going to show that before you disable s voice and this was the same case with previous galaxy s devices and Galaxy Note 2 if you have s voice enabled going home if you press the HOME key if you're in a nap and you press the home button it hesitates that's an elephant's have two seconds yeah because you have to double tap so I didn't include this in the review I need to upgrade or update it because I did forget about that I forget about s voice because I've just but if you do disable that and you are an an app and let me love my camera on myself and this is again this is the octa-core version i'm in google+ and i'm pushing the home button and three two one there you go it's below one second it's almost this it's much faster than with s voice enabled yeah so I do need to upgrade or update keep saying okay take my review I do need to upgrade it later we have a major problem we have nobody to talk to because all the people here are Google hangout errors of or oh we have a no bottom hey I'm above I'm glad that finally a living moving person has joined the Hangout all the others are broadly aberrations and errors we'll hang out guys you hear me yes we can it's Taylor's turn right you so please that was just so this you are we doing 337 we're going we do whatever we can because others are just static images can we can we check really quick if matt has audio again just quickly hey here I cannot even see you can't see him or hear him I can't do anything I can't there's no magic here man oh my gosh this is okay I don't Bob well he's like it better it's this is what we had yes sorry we're apologizing on Google's behalf because it's failing us today which we shouldn't do but yeah google you suck for some reason I can see everybody on wisely you guys can't see anybody on here speeds I can see these boulders I can't see just generic icons I see everyone except for it or keyboard I don't know how to say from people people the guy who trolled us since the beginning of this thing this is this is becoming more and more fun so let's let's move on all right i don't care i just want google i/o just for a nexus 7 it's like a 1080 password upload w wqxga display on and stays on nature wqxga Oh My yes if everything is that what I think it is 10 semana okay yeah yeah talking to a oh my god that would be hold on we have to do calculations a lot of boys I think that's uh yeah okay thank you Tom I think you have a problem with some huge echoing so I have muted you right now so whenever you want to talk just unmute yourself and then please do meet yourself back because we're gonna blow Taylor's years off yeah um that would be 431 pixels per inch and that would be yeah but in a tablet on a tablet you don't necessarily need as high PPI because you're gonna actually hold it further from your faces and you would phone oh um but I'm not wanted to say no to extremely high resolution intensity and I just want the off no more tag random in the next seat or probably 800 in there yeah that's probably what we'll see that's a prediction I'm gonna say probably Snapdragon 800 but that's I don't know you'll need something like that to push them any pixels because the nexus 10 is it performs fairly well but it does lag in some cases because there's just so many pixels for dual core processor ah what impression do you think the neck like whatever android 4.3 or five do you think they're gonna start not like killing their Nexus phones and start so maybe by a miracle he put into the HTC nexus what was the first ever nexus phone nexus one all that stuff yeah the nexus one they could just do that i would be happy i was there i said that on I we enjoy them with everything the original iphone if I was watch it you're reading the out hearing about you only weakly is like they should really do that no bring so much more things to it I told that directly to HTC at CES sat down with them and I said they said what is something you would love to have from HTC i said i would love I would almost kill for another nexus one just upgraded I would it was it was it with one of my favorite films ever I would love to see it again in you know 8 2013 fashion yeah oh that that was about all my things I had to say about my I Oh coming out yeah how about the Nokia event I mean everybody seems to be neglecting that and I'm acting like a fanboy I'm hating the word but i wanna i want to emphasize that nokia is having a london event where hopefully we will see something exciting what do you think about that may I to me I want no kid too I don't know have a 1080 screen when Windows has a capacity to push out a 1080 screen it's not worry Freddie to go that's all I will be the best thing ever and apparently whatever for nokia and iphone comparisons either cameras as good as it they show it i would switch off android to windows phone is to try it out full state you to pocket now because as soon as we get our hands on a nokia lumia eos we're gonna have everything compared out of it inside yeah I might actually switch back to Windows Phone my secondary line if if we have if that happens yeah I'm locking my camera on you alobam and people can join you on twitter and at ad and eight th-10 is that correct yeah awesome thank you very much for joining us and all right why I no longer okay now I can hear you i was only hearing some echo take care okay take care and it's just you and me now and the the youtube commenter so i have a first of all there's a remark they're like six people in here Tony yeah but I cannot see anybody I mean I can't see you I can see myself and all the others are the generic person icon comment on YouTube saying I think it is more to do with your current connection speed than hang out software my friend my friend my connection speed is 100 megabytes plus it has nothing on this planet to deal with my connection speed so it's gonna definitely yeah and my mind fast enough to its 50 down stir another person this time on pocket now Nicholas says question for Taylor I have the HTC One X plus 64 gigabyte international version running sense for plus do you think the upgrade this ends five or sense 5.1 will get rid of the lag i'm sure you have experience on the HTC one x um that's difficult to say i would say yes because you're gonna have jelly bean which comes with project butter but you're also on a tegra processor which it's not the Tigers bad is it feels more poorly optimized than anything so i do i would hope yes but i don't know for sure i haven't used the one x+ and the One X itself didn't like too much for me maybe a little bit but it's hard to say um hi mate would actually probably be able to answer that because he got an upgrade to jelly bean I'm here's and I have not yet oh my well the one I asked him and since since you are the person who are seeing other people why don't you take the last fall and even if I cannot see or hear that person maybe the recording will will eventually feature that person so please if not if not then it will just be me totally just be a monologue and we'll all be fooled like you will be talking to your alter ego yeah x the only person I can see now is is it Mads said how it's pronounced is the only person I can see now so I cannot see him so I'm trusting your guts and if you can hear him I'm just gonna meet and get out of here can you hear me I can I can't can you hear him Tony I cannot so I'm gonna mute and just don't mind me I'm just here I'm kind of a decoration alright hello it's it's you and me so how's it going uh hearts awesome it's going good it's going so we're gonna switch it up and not talk about IO first we're gonna talk about nokia NOK yup like Google's how I was gonna about nokia anyways oh there you go alright so um any predictions or or things that you would or things you hope will happen I I pretty much assumed will see the 925 which is the 928 but the global version I mean the 928 is priced right so that's nothing to do with London or anyone else in the universe yeah and the well i don't know i mean i'm trying not to get my hopes about any eus jewnicorn so I tablet sewing things like that because I remember a certain day cabrera called the Mobile World Congress which I skipped work to actually just ditched everyone I told my girlfriend to go hike I skipped work and just SAT there and had like three computers in one surface up with live feeds and it's like your thesis is it we're taking over the world map location that is called dedication I would be I would be in line with the Brenneman know a was Michael Fisher and tell me if I'm correct there and suffer the same consequences day because it was an odd more failure and look great rooms nonetheless than 720 was awesome and it'll be great for people not living in all when wig flagships go but yeah I'm not trying to get my hopes up Google i/o I'm very disappointed at all the leaks about we're not getting ice cream sandwich I I got a nexus 4 just for the premise of warming to play with the handbook or 50 know before everybody else but apparently that's not happening so ya know well we'll see I'm hoping I'm holding out hoping um it's usually served me poorly in the past but in a can't give up hope right no but well judging from how would they update to the hangouts going booths not doing too well like yeah this is this is a really terrible upgrade or update I can't say update for whatever is an upgrade and update or synonymous for me but yes it was a terrible update I had an upgrade switching back over the nose gonna cut in for a short second it is so weird Taylor did hearing you talk to yourself yeah I'm better I'm gonna go back and mute myself again but it is weird I'm sitting here thinking like I wonder what Tony you just thinks we're talking about yeah you can watch like a lot of thing after like well they might not even here because most of the feed the feed goes through him so they might not even be hearing you they might just hear me talking oh that but I need to watch that just just see what you see right now what is I think I'm strange Sergey and I asked this question on the YouTube channel and people are getting back with comments that they can hear you so obviously it is meet a strange one so please proceed at least I don't look like I'm talking to myself so um as eos people are commenting and it's like the first off i don't think they even need an ATP screen for for that and the resolution of the screen has nothing to do it with it because stayed awake PureView has n HD screen and if that surprises to look at well 30 8 megapixel images obviously 720p will be enough and I remember reading that nokia was testing out both dual-core and quad-core because of energy concerns so I don't think they I mean you you don't have the pure you do not know how much energy this camera sucks up a bit the phone this phone will it carry I have no idea where it is it sounds there something it will last several days but if you stop filming with that I mean it's it it actually CM the oversampling yeah it worked in the video mode as well so it's got a 41-megapixel sensitive over sampling every frickin pixel in 1080p it will kill your battery seriously I don't imagine yeah so if you you want to display that on 1080p screen as well as recorded it would just you would have to have like a samsung galaxy note 2 battery and it would still just died so I think what they probably won't well it depends on what display technology they use because super LCD is actually more power efficient been there 1080p panels are actually more power efficient than the 720p panels which to me makes absolutely no sense yeah but to that and you don't necessarily need 1080p like I was saying earlier because you know you're you don't have phones that are that large unless they're going to announce a 5-inch phone or a phablet 5.5 inch phone which I highly doubt then you know there's no real need for 1080p 720p is dense enough and it looks great so oh also and in the thing about the grill under the impression that nokia is suffering because of microsoft marks or slower they won't update the OS blah blah but if i remember contract between nokia and microsoft racket it's not like what HTC and microsoft has HTC is simply using windows phone nokia is licensing Windows Phone to go further Davis is slightly earth like a company that's with Android yeah you can put up you you really can go in and change things because it's yours now yeah that's what nokia has that's that's there in they can and that's why they are so much more active in producing apps and making system changes and what much in the day / OEMs they actually licensed it to go further so they might actually just change stuff in the old wood core OS yeah well they can't change too much it's kind of like a Windows 8 or Windows 7 license for for the manufacturers you know they can add their own bloat and stuff but they can't actually you know change how it looks or something like that I can't change the interface but they can they can add services that wouldn't otherwise be there okay and also it's it's not it's not so much about less right now isn't it the but processor I mean you need a Snapdragon 800 to deal with a kind of resolution in camera I won't you yes yes because um your Snapdragon 600 only supports up to 22 megapixels and the Snapdragon 800 handles up to 55 I think it is 55 54 which which Rick takes that can't show the EOS yet it'll have to come in the fall unless they announced the the bed phone with the 808 or not anyway listen after i get 800 so I don't know do you have any final thoughts or questions we're gonna have to start wrapping this up the fun final question is the snapdragon 808 is it what is it ready that's ready that I don't know it was a was announced at Mobile World Congress then that's her or not even then it was TS I think it but that was it I'm going to be with virtually and that's it I'm kidding I don't know what I'm kidding we too many I can help you if you Bess already the question or the information I'm getting feedback I don't know what I'm hearing ok there we go um yeah but that's that's impossible to answer i'm hoping i know that there were some rumors that a snapdragon 800 phone were coming soon but i don't know what I can't remember do you have any insight on that Tony I'm after I can I think the yeah there is already a Snapdragon 800 phone out there it is either from pave or ZTE I I don't remember exactly but we know we are expecting or at least hoping to get the Optimus g2 with the 800 can you hear Hemi or do I need to like pass this through he doesn't kid can you hear Tony of course I can hit okay okay awesome so yes if somebody blocked me good alright well thank you mad um can we can you can we lock it on it while you can't lock it only because I cannot see him I cannot hear him he's not existing for me yeah uh so can you tell us where we can find you or follow you that's the lemon okay we'll do it another pot a novel idea okay yeah it's just there's a common courtesy thanks for joining us and we'll see you soon maybe next time next week and maybe it'll be better next time it better be yeah or we'll have to start looking for a new live show platform okay and with that I think it is time to wrap it up thank you everybody for joining pocket now live so number 15 which we will probably entitle the weird / enter key edition of Google Hangouts I'm sorry that we I'm sorry that this was a mess at least it was for me I hope it was not for you the answer is Tony yeah I'm always the nice guy so I wanna because I'm so nice I wanna thank mr. Taylor Martin who with the on whom I had locked my camera so that you can see you can follow him at casper tech there are any final thoughts google fix your hangouts please and also release android key lime pie on the fifteenth that is my final thought and that the X phone and the X phone and the extra and another leak to the LG bezel is whatever anything else um i'm good i mean i could go on all day an HTC nexus um maybe maybe another same so i might please and doable things oh um just fix hang out just thinking and nokia please bring me my 41-megapixel Windows Phone 8 I promise you I will ditch the s4 I will ditch the one I will ditch the iphone 5 or 5s and i will use your EOS exclusively if you bring me that you'll get the fonepad yeah i will also i will this that you thank you very much for joining us I'm sorry we we haven't had the chance to talk to everybody but hopefully next time we'll have more time and hopefully next time it will be less of an hour anarchy I've been Anton denied you can follow me right there on Twitter and on Facebook and you can follow taylor Martin here and you can also follow joe levi at Joe Levi he has had to leave thank you very much again for joining us and have a awesome awesome weekend stay tuned to pocket now next week maybe 14 I'll be in London May fifteenth the guys will be at Google i/o so with that ever i Swan take care
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