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and we're live the Department of Justice could soon decide the fate of the 18 teen time warner acquisition google pulls YouTube off of Amazon devices again will the Huawei P 11 have a 40 mega pickle triple rear camera and we've got the full scoop on the qual comes on qual combs upcoming snapdragon 845 chipset we've got a lot to talk about so make sure you're charged and ready for episode 2 8 2 of the pocket noun weekly recorded December 8 that noon pacific this weekly podcast is where we dissect and discuss those gadgets that make our lives mobile smartphones tablets and wearables it's all the stuff you wished existed when you were a kid and business news like corporate acquisitions were super boring I'm Juan Carlos bag now senior editor pocketnow.com joined as always by plucky podcast producer mr. Jules Wong on the East Coast how's it going buddy boy well I guess if I were 20 years younger I would have I would have treated many travelbee with the same kind of weights I and and yet I kind of feel like it's those younger members of our audience and younger generation that are probably way more tuned in and tapped into this kind of stuff today than I was when I was their age we are driving the conversation and like all the sites that they go to or telling them hang this is bad I got them to sign up to call their Congress people and just getting riled up so I mean it's an issue in this development of what we call the World Wide Web it's kind of important hello we've spent some time talking about it I also just recently um I guessed it on Adam Dowd it's a podcast tech beard we had a he produced a whole episode on net neutrality and then a friend of mine snaked my delegate position I actually put in my paperwork to be a Bernie delegate for the 2016 election but I'm friends with mr. Dan Gordon I just recently shared on my Facebook page a video he produced on net neutrality we're coming up on that vote and we're not going to dedicate time in this episode to talking about it we've like I said we've covered it in past podcasts but definitely the votes coming up next week maybe we'll talk about next week but until though I wanna hear comes out definitely oh yeah definitely we'll talk about its with you the viewer the listener that is participating in this show today we're live right now at 3 p.m. Eastern and if you want to get in on the conversation that we're having today just go to Twitter and hit up and weekly and you'll be able to find all the comments there going around what we're talking about got a whole slate of topics including Qualcomm that's gonna be interesting we're talking about the next flagships for 2018 and even part of 2019 too so let's move on over to the emails too we also have that I forgot about and when it comes to those you can send them along 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think it's this mic is also on me the that the latency or the the speed of which I'm talking is going to be pretty slow today yeah again it's well we finally got you upgraded on a better recording equipment but apparently just like anything else audio related to our show Google Hangouts is gonna flip out so let's jump into some news that's actually kick this puppy off and see I see what we've got to talk about this week let's see if we can make this bearable here for the week of December 3 2017 this is all the news that is fit to podcast maybe I should compensate by going up a little bit the dates for the tryout nabina the trial against AT&T has been set the Justice Department will make its antitrust case against the telecom on March 19 over concerns an eighty five billion dollar acquisition of Time Warner would hurt the content and distribution market places in the US Time Warner owned CNN has been a contentious piece in this matter as president Trump has criticized its fake news coverage throughout his campaign it was also supposedly a marketing ship behind the scenes as the Justice Department was trying to rein in some scrutiny on the deal 300 units of the LGV thirty signature edition are on sale in Korea for a whopping eighteen hundred dollars equivalent u.s. the phone takes off from the glossy finish of the regular v30 with ceramic and bumps up the memory to six gigabytes of RAM in 256 gigabytes of storage the HTC harmony device that has been in the rumor mill for some time is being reported out by Evan Blass HTC you 11 eyes that's a ye s the 2014 HTC Desire iPhone the first in its portfolio was one that put an emphasis on selfies it's not clear if we'll see this carry the same weight and we might say this in the same time frame that the HTC u ultra came in this year that would be early in the year the Huawei PCE is also being reported out by blasts to bring about three rear cameras with 24 megapixel selfies five times hybrid zoom and 40 mega pixel pictures all of this in conjunction with like a technology we'll get into more of that in just a little bit the galaxy X 9 according to an inside source at Samsung will not be making an appearance at CES 2018 it had been rumored for a while this is in contention with a whole other slew of announcements expected from Huawei and from Lenovo as well so there could have been some smarting pressure apparently some design issues with the fingerprint sensor could still be holding back the actual showcase of the design of the film Google is pulling off YouTube from all of amazon's devices including the echo show and the fire TV over retaliation that's the Amazon isn't back of selling nest products as well as delivering on its prime video service on Google's services co-founder of vine at Don Hoffman is also now tweeting about a new vine the six-second social video sharing service was killed off earlier this year by Twitter which had acquired it in 2013 there's talk now that this side project of Hoffman is gonna be coming soon so with all that going about so let's starts with AT&T Time Warner and why this has to go through because we're talking about a content distributor AT&T with its pipes wire lines and wireless mediums and then there's Time Warner with CNN Cartoon Network all the other kinds of media channels that a provides these are this would be a vertical integration this ends be like half a century or so since the government has come down on a vertical integration like this talk to me about what's going on with the Trump factor here with CNN and how this all relates yeah this has definitely become one of the more politicized stories involving major corporations acquiring other major corporations in part we just recently saw the FCC Whittle back protections on buying up media outlets this is a law that's been on the books for 42 years as to you know what policy and what what media companies a single company can own in any given area and it's interesting that from a conservative standpoint typically this kind of thing would be supported but it's been caught up in in a lot of presidential news Donald Trump regularly pointing to outlets like cen CNN as fake news and so there is sort of a mounting discussion on whether or not the president's influence over this is extending into the Department of Justice so I when we're talking about manure concerned about media conglomerates becoming bigger media conglomerates I think there are a number of people who were concerned about 18t blurring lines between a telecommunication service and an information service by providing both the pipes to content and the content that is supposed to flow on those pipes but right now it seems like this this merger could be held up so long as there's some stipulation that AT&T or Time Warner's sell off CNN before dumping their catalog on AT&T s network yeah so with all those considerations Fox might want to consider buying it and we know that Rupert Murdoch has been wanting to continue to bolster his media properties around the world including in Australia and but in especially this case here we're right wake bring supporter ever since the Reagan days and now it's just you he's been shifting around a whole bunch of other opportunities with his cinematic properties of 21st Century Fox trying to make sure that you know there's a talk that Disney might be able to buy a property such as x-men and all the other studios and cameras and equipment like that so lots of agendas swirling around here I just want to hand this quickly so that we knew what was going on with yes I'm sure this is also gonna be a story that we continue to see evolve I mean you're you bringing up Disney and Fox main I think that's a perfect example of just how many mega IPs are being you know sort of a hot potato to around from company to company and it seems like at least as it pertains to 18 T's involvement with Time Warner that we should be getting I think it's some sort of summary or final judgment March of next year so it we're in a we're in a period now of I think more debate and people joining the public conversation how how we're going to handle sort of future acquisitions like this but at some point they're eventually just gonna have to say this is the answer yes or no and we'll see if 18 T and Time Warner are able to satisfy the current administration that comes down in March all this comes to a point where we've been seeing unlimited data come into play at the carriers and faster network technology has come in and they want a site like that they have been with cable channels they just want to load in as much media as possible gobbling all all these properties so um yeah this this has end in packs for every single person that has a cell phone out there so we have lots of time to go through that again March 19 is when the trial starts and we don't expect that to end until maybe May or so and 18 to time order or to deal though they'll stick it out even with like a 500 million dollar fee if like if the deal doesn't get closed at the state but right you know I got half a billion dollars to multi-billion dollar companies I mean that that's that's not even like a blink they're not gonna be do said about that but you know it's more fun than this time war acquisition is talking about a phone that is amazing for consuming content and one that I think is it's an interesting move this is something that I've actually I've actually wanted to see more companies doing is putting syrup and addition no nuts ceramic I mean that's paramah kliebert why not have a limited edition version of a phone I mean we've seen it occasionally like Olympics editions or the the Batman version of the galaxy s7 I think this kind of stuff is fun and if any company were to gonna we're going to shake up the look of their products I think LG is definitely in line for doing something outlandish you know even if it's just to garner some headlines we always talk about these OEMs of what kind of audience they wanted Taylor oneplus has always been catering to the tech enthusiasts and that we've kind of been stuck in that red they've been trying to transition out of that for a while whereas mainstream LG Samsung Apple they have they're kind of main me matei toes that they can set out there for the masses and then for their side interests Apple has product red Samsung of course those media franchises and here LG just wants to treat it super fans I'm not sure if they could have done anything a little bit different to spice it up with a media franchise on a cause or something like that but just this 300 units Korea they're home home markets and $1,800 for I would say marginal improvements with the six gigs of RAM and 256 gigabytes of storage I mean that's kind of just kind of $100 kind of a great deal that's you would wants anyway this also falls in line though with the same argument that essential was trying to make you know building a phone out of a more expensive material isn't something that I think general consumers really gravitate towards it seems many people are fine buying brittle glass on the back of their phones and not engaging in any kind of different conversation or acting get some kind of downgrade if your phone is made out of something not shiny and flashy right you know like Kevlar would be a premium material carbon fiber would be a premium material to build your phone with but you can't really have that conversation on a flagship because then everyone gets their undies in a twist this this is I think exactly the right way to do it you have a limited set of devices 300 devices manufacturing and machining only 300 phones to be put out as premium you know that also affects the price but you're not doing this because it's you're trying to get your bang for but you're doing this because it's supposed to be exclusive and something kind of gaudy or something kind of extreme for that commentary you pull out your phone is this is a $2,000 smartphones because really you do at least get some marginal speck bumps this isn't like a virtue where they use a Qualcomm 400 series processor but they cover it in Swarovski crystals this is actual you know an actual durability upgrade an actual premium material upgrade a couple little speck bumps but you get the conversation topic you get the conversation point of saying your phone is super exclusive so it's not I I don't think this is the same argument that we would make with a Galaxy Note 8 being almost $1000 or an iPhone 10 being over $1000 in many markets this is a completely different animal this is a this is trying to do none of this of what virtu used to do back in the day this is the animal that screaming help LG mobile get out of its deficits is one thing but to each their own does the same thing with Porsche design right the porsche design phones you like like doesn't mean to be made by releasing an ultra premium variant which doesn't make general consumers feel like they got shafted right well you know delicate balance to walk there there's a whole weights to it there's the biggest Porsche design it's an it they're known for designing their cars to be streamlined and we yet sassy enough to bring the personality when you're going from zero to sixty and there's Pantone - they are supposed to know all the colors in the world and even make up new ones when you think that they've got like the last the billion dfq that they have out there they have purple as their color of the year this year I hope they have a purple phone out Huawei hello and this you know I feel I could have used a little bit more firepower or if not just yes III think this is actually the right way to play it I think you know trying to make people feel like their regular phones are somehow less desirable is a huge mistake especially for a company in LG's position right now you come out with something ridiculously over-the-top and then you you batter people with advertising on that that would be a huge misstep so I think this it's quiet its subtle its refined its sophisticated it's the LG signature edition limited edition phone and it's not so much better or so much different than the standard phone that the people who own V 30s or g6 is aren't gonna feel like oh well now you're just making an obscene cash grab and making my phone worse just so you can put out this better phone for rich people this actually goes to a comment in the in the from Twitter using the PA and weekly hash tag from at fat produce you think LG is maybe testing the waters of different materials and losing as little investment as possible with this move so maybe a future v-series phone might be made out of ceramic instead of glass but this is how you start that machining and manufacturing process you'd kind of dip your toe in the water you see what people are willing to pay for it and then you also get the experience of working with this material again I think this is the right way to do something silly and outlandish well I want to I've been bringing up huawei and speaking of silly and ridiculous and outlandish um yeah three cameras 40 megapixels print what I you know and and we're all over the place on this story we there there are several different theories hypotheses as to what Huawei might be doing with this kind of marketing here saying you get a forty megapixel image doesn't necessarily mean that it's coming from a forty megapixel camera yeah because we've done this before with ace deuce and oneplus pixel compositing from even just one camera numerous phones will will do this like super scaling right exactly so what I'd be curious to see is if we get a triple sensor rear back phone what the relationship between those sensors will be and I'm willing to bet that there is probably gonna be a matched twelve and twenty similar to the to the current kwame Leica cameras that we have now and then some kind of different focal lengths if they go ultra wide or if they go with the zoom sensor but that all three of these cameras would work together so I could imagine so imagine that is always language right there totally so imagine imagine a huawei with an ultra wide maybe even if it's just like an 8 megapixel ultra wide camera sensor but the image detailing is composited with the normal focal length so that the center of your ultra wide sensor of your ultra wide shot is super super clear you know very very detailed very crispy that's something that Huawei already does a very good job with in enhancing clarity texture contrast that's what those two cameras work well together or by contrast let's say you had a zoom sensor as that third camera sensor you could still draw on the depth information and the clarity and detail information for low-light shots so you wouldn't sacrifice that performance like you do on an iPhone or a galaxy with that zoom sensor where they don't even use the zoom sensor when you're trying to shoot at night with that smaller sensor they just give up they they just go back to the main camera sensor so I did see some potential for for some flexibility in that system and then it's all just an exercise in computational photography and computational post-processing to merge the output from these three different sensors so that you get something really interesting in that like a price processing which you know an association with like I know they're they're not the ones that are doing all the the maths to make this happen but this is probably as high-tech as like a gets around these parts because they're more known for B's individually for these old-school kind of things and that kind of brings me to what I'm preemptively disappointed about which is the the lack of 3d scanning that pets that we might do on the rear camera if we're going to go into the augmented reality or virtual reality age going forward and you just want to see that and I know that what he's been gunning for Samsung and Apple for this front and I feel like this was a missed opportunity for them at least well potentially see this is also where we've got to start playing with if we're playing the 2018 roadmap game you're not wrong on this on the face of it because I I seriously doubt any phone company is going to be delivering tango great hardware in any significant way but what we know from a our kit and a our core this is something that we're fairly confident Huawei is looking to add to their neural processing chip capabilities in the future where they're gonna instead of trying to get developers to code things specifically for their their separate processing unit they're NPU they're looking at making the MP you do all the heavy lifting for this AR core style computational processing so if you had a triple camera setup you would at least be able to feed the NPU depth information which could then the NP you could do the translation into the software for a our core and then you could end up with a nicer overall augmented reality result then if you just had one single camera it I mean I am completely speculating there but it would make sense to me that Huawei's position moving forward here would be how can we feed as much good raw data from imaging sensors into something that can then translate and make sense of that especially playing with the may 10 pro camera it is stupid fast at recognizing your subject I this this this is a functional benefit of having a separate processing unit doing your thinking for you so you hold up your camera you look at a flower through your camera almost instantaneously the the phone goes oh that's a flower and it's already making adjustments to your image capturing and to what the image processing is gonna look like once it's produced to the shot for that flower it's really compelling so a next-gen system triple camera fed into an AR core setup that could be a good step forward for augmented reality well one bit of genocide quality always here to hear from you about the camera product is the green that you put in there that makes it more cinematic or just in enhances mood a little bit I'm wondering if texture texture of and I'm wondering how that might play into things because when it comes especially to edges that can get a little bit tricky and I mean they want to play around with that and you know add it in afterwards and just go for the clearest kind of optics that you can it's all those and cons I mean you're not wrong there and and when you shoot full auto on the may 10 I think that they've scaled up their noise reduction in a way that can look really plasticky and you see it you'll see that in if you use the depth of field mode the bouquet blur background mode on a hallway now that is significantly more processed but you can really use it into in much lower light conditions than you can Apple or Samsung it's always going to be a balance and a trade-off but one of the things that while we might be able to benefit from since I doubt anyone's going to be going to a 2/3 inch or inch sensor like we had on the the Lumia 1020 a much bigger surface area to soak up light instead having three smaller sensors if you can combine the output in a meaningful way from all three you're making up the difference in terms of physics you are acquiring more light per capture to do that so again there's going to be a compromise and how the stitched together and how that image data is merged but there's potential there and if any company I think can do that in an interesting way I think it's Huawei right now I think they're well ahead of the curve on multiple image sensor computational photography now when this is on Huawei and in the meantime I want to introduce this next topic here by being the fuddy-duddy of the group in saying that I don't really watch TV I I don't understand how people don't get it get into live tea I understand that they don't have the time for the whole scheduling aspect of it where you know this live event happens and you get DVR and whatever there whereas opposed actually Netflix as all the content I want Kulu to yeah sure but I just I don't know like so I just make no time for for a TV at all and just watch YouTube clips two minutes three so you're welling all the mean ecosystem if you see all the meetings right yeah exactly so five is that real is that really like a thing amazon's ecosystem is a lot more fleshed out and formidable than I would have guessed I mean because we spend so much time digging into smartphones so in the smartphone ecosystems it's far more likely that we're gonna encounter or or need to add Apple TV or Google products into the discussion so because I'm tasked with reviewing a ton of Android phones it kind of just makes sense for me to stick with chromecast for example as one of my primary TV distribution methods but taking one step outside of our fandom our buh-ba-ba-bah bias when it comes to what we need to talk about Amazon is a really BFD I am shocked at the adoption of fire products and Alexa products and how people are genuinely happy with those which makes stories like this one all the more frustrating when again major corporations are playing gotcha with their customers to leverage preferable business solutions from other major corporations and this isn't a situation of well I'm happy Gogol's doing this because or I'm upset for Amazon because I'm pissed with both Google Emmas and ant and Amazon because this is a terrible way to use your customer base this is a stupid splash this is a stupid splash fight in a kiddie pool here and with the oh hey you're not selling nest oh hey you're not you're not doing the whole YouTube interface right so that we can't show ads and whatnot like those all those I don't I don't because it's a really bad look for two companies that have consumer facing solutions that people really enjoy you know I say to that the echo show like even blackish air which you know only has tens of thousands of units out like I think the Verge's Casey Newton had a point in that are someone out there pardon me Casey but someone but out there had a point that's the how the echo show is putting out YouTube they're doing it via web interface they're cheating really and at that point YouTube was like no you're not allowed to do even that which is kind of all right so you're blocking your blocking access to to like that and that's that's part of the terms of for the terms of use and like what you're breaking here well in the really cynical part of me to is sort of acknowledged the fact that Google doesn't seem to have any significant designs for YouTube it's just a place where tons of people go but they're not really doing a very good job of investing in that infrastructure or finding better ways to monetize that user base so it's kind of a win-win for Google Google really does seem to be focused on trying to be a proper competitor to traditional cable broadcast and outlets like Netflix and Hulu like everything that we've seen from them that were that has been a significant step in improving content catalog or distribution has been focused on either YouTube bread or YouTube TV not traditional YouTube YouTube traditional YouTube is going through this dearth of monetization problems and community outreach problems and it's a really bad look so because we know a ton of people still traffic YouTube you can hurt Amazon users by not letting them go there but even if they don't go there it's not really terrible because Google is focused on growth in other areas outside of user-generated video so again if I'm playing the cynic it makes me doubly upset if Google on this one because of how they're sort of holding us as hostage or ransom for Amazon to do business the way that Google wants them to and I'm not entirely thrilled with Amazon right now either in terms of those sort of global economy that we're looking at but this is a fight where basically no one wins all consumers will pretty much lose regardless of who comes out on top Amazon I mean their scales are smaller so I think that gives them someone in the past whereas Google's pretty much just the Internet's well Amazon's distribution content services are smaller but again we're watching Amazon leverage brick-and-mortar again buying out Whole Foods and they are a deciding factor for a lot of consumers around the world as to what products they buy even just what products they have access to so given a little time and some leverage Amazon could make some preferred deals that could also hurt Google's distribution of services again it's it's all it's all a bad look and this is also why I feel like not not that I feel like the government needs to get involved but I think that there should be some growing discussion on these mega digital corporations and some kind of examination for consumer protection services or the FTC you know I don't want write-ins again yeah yeah I don't want to jump right into like saying all we needs a vestige or we need to break up the bells with Google and Facebook but we need to examine these business practices to see if they really are in the consumers best interest to have a consolidation of power with a very few top players in each industry this is coming from Peter hatin on Twitter using the P n weekly hashtag it really shouldn't matter which device we invest in to watch these core services because in the end all this will do is hurt sales for both companies and we would think so but we can't really make these companies adjust their business practices if there's no competition and that's unfortunately where they're yeah I mean like the only top competitors are you know Microsoft isn't really super relevant in this conversation Facebook wouldn't watch all my content of them you know now well I was gonna say vid me but they shut my channel down so that's no good oh yeah they closed they closed up shop too so again consumer generated video is in a very very precarious state on the internet if you're not supporting your favorite producers he's getting of consumer generated video are you excited am i are you excited about mine i I don't know that I could physically care less a very good know that it's possible I am I just the fact that I'm aware of someone talking about vine again has driven me even more negative caring than I thought I could achieve before so linked off of the last story here are the the content because we've been talking about these content work we are content distributors talking about I mean most of the reason that I directed my rage a Google is because we're on the platform right now and what better way to poke the eyes then you just do that but um we've seen a lot of these so-called vine stars migrate over to you to when you know their bread and butter content was six seconds long and they had to really adapt to figure out okay are we really going to continue that or is white will sustain stay nest in this kind of stupid machine that has that Google that you put oh this stupid machine no I I was one year off in calling the demise of fine I did a there are these like conferences you can go to and one is called a social media week and I actually taught a workshop talking about pre-production and someone like super into the vine ecosystem was asking me my thoughts on it and I you know I being honest I don't think any any platform that builds its core service on basically just a single mechanic it can be sustainable in the long term and I think we've seen the same thing with snapchat you know snapchat still exists through a momentum of very passionate and hardcore diehard users but every other platform in social has replicated what made snapchat initially compelling especially the stories feature there's even gonna be a Youtube version of this so you can you can tell your quick pithy little story videos share those in a in YouTube's platform like I just recently turned on the community tab on my personal YouTube channel like you know everyone's already building a story function into their service so why do you want to go to a solitary distribution platform only to do that one thing and vine is this and if I want to shoot a six second video I have numerous places where I can already share that with an audience that's engaged why do I want to yet sign up for your snapchat and Instagram audiences are really that engaged or are you you're you you don't have as you have the personal profiles of each of each platform that you have and then you have the content stuff and sometimes you have to set up a because you have it the fake insta to kind of it's you can toy around with all this stuff whereas vine you do it for the vine and it's just like what will star hip hop where it's like you do it for the fame and that's all you do that's all you focus on you know just oh hey six second video of me talking to my friends and they start you know doing that I feel like this is more conducive to just a agnostic of brand agnostic social maybe I mean yeah I mean you're not wrong it's just I I wonder what the audience capacity will be for following people on differing and smaller and less impactful social networks going into the future I kind of feel like that web 3.0 notion of social is already on the decline and that we're looking for what's going to be the hot new way to interact or engage with the community um but also we just got a tweet from Andrew Wallace using the p-n weekly hashtag doesn't vine have the same core problem that snapchat has where any features that they can make can be easily copied by a competitor with a larger built-in audience so I'm pretty confident if we got a new vine it wouldn't be just the same setup as the old vine but a new startup right now trying to play with social and trying to do stuff with media and content distribution anything they do if there's any spark of popularity in it will instantly be ripped off by Instagram Facebook YouTube snapchat manure gonna see that immediately carried right into platforms that are already way better staffed funded and have much larger user bases well I mean yeah there's only so much content that you can share in just six seconds that pretty much all the profitability that you could bring from from big-time publishers and it does end with that it doesn't make it seem likely that YouTube and snapchat and all the other built up platforms would be more willing to go back to what vine once was so in terms of mmm if they're not gonna expend too much effort on R&D on this then the big players don't even have to look at this world it's the freedom of whether or not they want to expend R&D on this I just don't think they can all this time you're you're already started it's why the former one of the former co-founders in vine that's using his money to play around right now so I mean if they find some if he finds something then his best hope is to build some little popularity and then sell immediately if someone Oh rusty Paul was all know when that happened and then we saw that Scott Rakowski of HQ and you know that that was fun so a couple tweets I don't want to get to before we hit the sponsor break from Peter hatin do you think we really need any more social networks vines first failing says it all doesn't it I'm all for competition but do we really need this and to a point I mean we don't really need any of the sort of social fun features that we've got I just think anything that's novel will be swallowed up by a bigger player before you can really leverage it to build an audience well Peter hate and I just think you're hating on vine that's all guys that's a name pun and Peter also asked we saw a Ark or brought up on stage with the May 10 announcement do you think that this represents presents an opportunity for Huawei to work closely with Google to attempt to position more accurate results from services like Google ends and support VPS with future pixels um I don't know how closely I think Huawei still has there's just that little bit of distance between kwame and Google as we look at especially as we look at like a North American market but any kind of insight on this I think Huawei has some really cool tech to leverage that could make the AR core discussion a lot more interesting especially if Huawei can utilize NPU for AR without having to make other developers support the the hardware that you can only find on one line of phones so that that's a really big if but it's a that I see that there's a lot of potential for it and I think that could be something really interesting and even as Huawei tries to go beyond its bounds and attaining that number one global shipments spots in China there's still number one and you still need back-end services to help things out these days with machine learning and Wow there might be something going on behind the scenes I haven't seen that kind of one popular app that has popped up or that one popular service that has a come out of there yet so so I would bother or or whatever I'll be curious to see if like if we can leverage something you know we know like an ingress to is on the horizon and that yeah if something like that has a true a our core or a our kit component to it if that helps further the discussion on this but I want to wrap up just this this little section here I just can't wait for the anime yeah this is from DMV listener 42 PN weekly looking at nations like China when it comes to censorship why would more government intrusion in America's Internet be good from what I see access regulation is the reason why is P seemed to be monopolistic so could more regular regulations hurt the net and this is when I do want to comment on just to kind of drift into the net neutrality discussion for just a second as I see this brought up a lot and you'll see it brought up a lot under the guise of a discussion like I don't want the government picking winners and losers so first of all regulation needs to be defined what are we talking about in terms of regulations for example if you do business with t-mobile with Verizon with Sprint with US Cellular or any other company other than AT&T proper well the only reason you have that competition is because of government involvement when we had monopolistic business practices through mom Paw Belle so that's one aspect that's one very real tangible benefit that government intrusion can bring into a market if the market is starting to become stagnant so when we're talking about net neutrality we're not talking about regulating content on the Internet that's not a part of the discussion it's the the the discussion of net neutrality really hinges on the definition of the Internet do you consider it to be a telecommunication service or do you consider it to be an information service and the reason why this is a difficult conversation is because ISPs now now can occupy both they are responsible for getting you on to the Internet the actual pipes the on-ramps that get you onto the Internet and they fulfill content they distribute content information on the Internet so they can blur the lines as to what it is that they're actually doing the reason this is different than Chinese censorship is because net neutrality really has no design / censoring websites and it really has almost everything to do with making sure your access to the Internet is priced fairly in in a way that resembles like water or power or you know the telephone network I mean it or if you're complaining about landline telephones that would be a similar complaint to title 2 regulation over over the internet I guess the the simpler because I hear the determine winners and losers and who chooses them whether it's the government I know it's the ISPs that do so because if these regulations are not in place they might have the ISPs will choose what sites it'll cost choose the levers that do so and that you know in the end it should be that's the traffic you know the traffic is the passengers the viewers everyone that is using the Internet turn win who gets more popular and who gets less so just to wrap up and team be listener 42 and I really appreciate the way that you phrased this question to wrap up my feelings on the notion of competition cuz obviously a lot of this would be better if every municipality every community had real choices for who they wanted to do business with so most markets you only have one player in very few markets you'll have two or three solutions for getting on the internet and it's only in places where you've got community funded broadband or Google Google Fiber that you see real competition where ISPs are actually having to compete against a proper 21st century Network so I agree that there is too much regulation which prevents competition but this is not regulation at the federal level this is the laws and the the zoning issues that companies face at the city and state level we're a major player a major ISP can go in can influence smaller local city and state politicians and get favorable legislation to prevent them having to compete so a Verizon can go into a town and and help them write legislation which prevents competition so if we're looking at improving the situation for competition we need to start from the bottom up if we deregulate the market now from the top down companies like Verizon and caste are already huge winners and are already looking at buying up smaller players you will have less competition but the major tenants of net neutrality don't necessarily directly influence competition at the state and city level so if we gut if we gut net neutrality you will have less competition for content and it will not address competition for service and these companies like I said I mentioned earlier in the podcast these companies already managed to help the FCC strike down a law that would allow companies to buy up more media outlets so you will have more merging more conglomerates more oligopolies you will have a chain snowball effect a chain reaction of less competition for service less competition for content and everyone paying more because there is less competition if you want to fix competition you need to start fighting at the local level you need to start fighting at the state and city level and if we could get to that point I feel we could do a better job a fulfilling free-market at the federal level and backing off regulations from the FCC but right now those regulations at the FCC title to control over the Internet calling it common carrier is necessary to protect competition of content and this is why this stuff gets super heady because all that time I spend explaining it someone else is gonna walk around and go but I still don't think government pick winners and losers and that's bad and that's all they have to know and then we've lost the discussion that person is is is lost in the discussion there they are a lost cause to try and reach but it took me or all of that time to untangle the issue to properly explain what's actually happening when we're talking about net neutrality well I mean the simple way that you could say it is government is stopping the ISPs from choosing the winners and losers so that you can choose the winners and losers but I think that's too soon government you'd be picking winners and losers that's the high speed god man is bad is be people people I government to pick you can see all of these stories in full detail at pocketnow.com and look for the podcast section to get to this episode's rundown you can chat with us about what you have been reading up on with hashtag P and weekly also be sure to check out Jaime Rivera illy on our youtube channel even though Jaime Rivera has been has not been I think he has been I'm surprised he has the time to be able to do so since he's looking at the science I know his mobile setup he's gonna call consonant yeah but the Qualcomm text tell me is taking up a bunch of his time we're gonna talk about that in just a few 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obviously successor to the 8:35 we got all these improved specs we also had time for a couple of always connected PCs but we'll get to those in just a second so if we want to dive into this mess we have its 2.8 gigahertz on the 4 power cores and the for efficiency courses excuse me 2.6 a Hertz and the for efficiency cause it's 1.8 blah blah blah about GPUs and artificial intelligence because there's there's just a whole bunch of integration that I have with the jargon all right so I guess down here so more artificial intelligence in graphics processing thanks to arv our computational makovan that is more integrated into the chipset now which is the processing for your current line of sights while decreasing the processing power needed to produce the rest of the image in your environment I'm trying to wrap my brain about how to explain it it's hard for me and I can't explain things which is one on this podcast alone we have better color gamut we have a wider common color gamut that can be supported now the REC 2020 which is way above DCI p3 that everyone's making a big deal about X 20 LTE bringing us to 1.2 gigabits per second per second on LT connection really love that gigabit LTE termed that they are keen on coining and just that they have a dedicated secure coprocessor as well because much more importance as we've gone into mobile payments and all these transactional deals just by having the phone in contact with something else so there's that and just a whole bunch of other stuffs too so um first impressions on the chip before we move on to the wider picture here well this is actually just kind of helping us flesh out we we had a discussion on this before talking about the different aspects of the new chipset and what we hope manufacturers will really take advantage of it sounds like cual comes on the right I think they're they're on the right path with some of the future consumer facing services the AI services these neural learning services and hopefully the what will soon see rolling out you know fifth-generation g 5g networks come on sorry i lost my place in my notes and then tried to dance back and it didn't work at all but but it's also what i'll be really curious to see is what manufacturers really start taking advantage of some of this some of some of these benefits so for example the isp on the Qualcomm 845 can capture 16 megapixel images up to 60 frames per second so that that could technically mean bursts of like 5k video if you wanted to jump in on that and the same thing 480 frames per second 720p video but do we really think that a galaxy s 9 using a Qualcomm 845 is going to do this when we haven't necessarily seen Samsung for example take advantage of everything the 835 could do and that's where I get a little twitchy like I think quoi comes offered up all the right bits now it's who's actually going to take advantage of it all who's really gonna produce hardware and software that will use of all of this cool new tech or are we just gonna see another year of phone manufacturers kind of coasting on this stuff because it's all good enough I mean do you really want better slow motion video probably not even though all of us on the ground are saying yes we do want better stuff and you've got Apple out there doing some really crazy cool things with their own in-house chip development I mean let's not forget that SOC stands for systems multiple systems on a chip and that many manufacturers don't even ought to turn a lot of those those systems on that are on the currents and previous chips so I mean I want to go codec the the aptX HD which allows you to stream multiple different tracks of music on two different Bluetooth speakers which you know you could DJ a whole house if you wanted to that'd be cool without having to have a Smart Hub or whatever so but you have to have the aptX HD codec enabled and you also have to be working with an 8:45 work board so it's these kinds of proprietary things that and you have to dig into them it doesn't I mean in manufacturers might not even often look into them anyway so yeah cuz again I want to give Qualcomm the thumbs-up here like I said I think they're on the pulse I think these are definitely the types of systems the type of benefits and features that make a ton of sense when you're looking at where you think the future of consumer computing is gonna go I think qual comes on point but now we just need to see what actual manufacturers do with this tech once once it starts what start shipping and speaking of this tech this prior tech that we're talking about the Snapdragon 835 we're seeing it being repurposed for different uses such as pcs were actually seeing the first always connected pcs out with ASUS and the Nova go and also HP with the MVX - these are coming out sometime within the next six months or so and they're coming up with an attorney 35 of course but always at the LTE modem the x16 LTE which is on a 35 so that they're able to do connected standby while the device is asleep supposedly they've been hammering home the battery life point because as we know cell your operations do take quite a bit of veggies to run and then there's the the rest of the specs which they're all right but the interesting part of this is that what runs from full Windows 10 the I mean you can so that's the thing is that their Windows 10s but users are able to upgrade free to Windows 10 Pro which you know comes to the idea alright so what kind of experience am I going to get if I do end up upgrading to Windows 10 Pro it sounds like that this is the 10s experience which is app you know more Windows app oriented as opposed to executable files and all the other things so I mean first take on that well I'd be really curious I'll be really curious to see because I mean we're talking you know what is it 4 gigabytes of RAM 64 gigabytes of storage for $5.99 8 gigabytes of RAM and 256 gigabytes of storage for $7.99 $7.99 ultra-low power of battery life focused mobility player but I will still be very curious to see how that you know this chipset supports legacy x86 software that to me becomes one of those big discussion one of those big talking point issues if the experience is kind of painful then we're kind of all the way back to where we were with netbooks again as they're increasingly more expensive when so much else about this brings some great benefit yeah over the whole LTE connection is huge yeah at $7.99 am I really getting a mobile road warrior that can handle my IT departments custom software for the Windows environment or am i limited to you know like it can kind of run this but it's gonna be painful so you really just want to use apps and if that's the case then this this is a poor demonstration of what the 845 should be able to deliver well to be fair I mean the whole bridge between arm 64 and x86 has been in the works for at least a couple of years we've seen test beds on the Snapdragon 820 that's not to say that we'll get an automatic improvement on the 8:35 just by having more horsepower to it but it's just you would hope that they got their emulation layer down pat at this point well I mean you would hope but again I the thing that makes me nervous is while we would hope we have that emulation emulation down if we did why do we still see such significant leverage on an app based version of Windows 10 why have Windows 10 as if the emulation is good enough just to deliver regular Windows 10 that's why I'm nervous I'm not I'm not saying like they haven't done it it's just I need to see I want to see and I'm apprehensive about apps in their current state if we're talking about emulation but one of the other things that they did show off we should probably talk about this this HP Envy as another yeah yes so it was the Asus no ago and the HP Envy x2 which is the I mean I guess when we're cutting our expectations because the no video is a bonafide laptop even though we you know you can swing around full 360 degrees this is the HP Envy x2 which we got fewer details on it's more it's more nebulous product at this point scheduled for spring launch but it's it's a tablet it's a convertible tablet with a detachable keyboard and you would hope you know we've seen the market would share for this kind of product for a while now so HP should be able to make a decent keyboard and decent tablet the unit talking to more about the actual body itself and less about the software and yeah that's their want but in terms of just being able to show it off if you were like Qualcomm should have done a better job of advent of reminding us just how you know good it is and as opposed to a twenty see what happens with a thirty five let's see what happens on this the updated and test ban or on the HPE the H the the shots the HP showing off I was really happy to see because I kind of missed the idea of the surface you remember there was a surface pro and then there was the regular there wasn't it wasn't regular what did they call that like the surface it was three yeah yeah it was just like the surface three so having something in that space so you'd have the surface laptop a surface tablet and then the surface pro which is a full-fledged computer in a tablet I kind of like the idea of that so if HP can pull it off I think that could be pretty cool III think that there's room in a market for I mean if Apple can put out commercials of kids using the iPad what's the computer I feel like Microsoft has a room here in this market to also like make a streamlined lean and mean maybe more app focused machine but just so that consumers understand that's what the thing is and if HP can deliver some really cool hardware they're touting their relationship with vno audio then that could be really cool I think that could be a good presentation of what a mobile chipset could do for a more mainstream computing environment so they're threatening this feature as one of the many ways they can deliver on output but the rear-facing camera on this tablet 13 megapixels and they're intending for VR a art related programming is that is that going to tilt the edge on anything are we going to be able to code is there gonna be a our apps that we can develop on the tablets yeah I guess that's the question I mean even even if there's just some a our consumption on the tablet that I think could be a positive benefit you think that a win at this I know we're talking about wins and losses here but do you think that would be stolen I well yeah I think that would still be a win right now I think AR and VR are in danger of becoming the the next generation of consumer buzz terms like 3d TV and until we see compelling hardware consumer desirable hardware and services to really take advantage of that hardware then this stuff has the there's the danger the stuff withers on the vine while we're all waiting I'm gonna wait for it to get good and then I'll buy in that's a bad place to be for new tech right now no one wants to be first everyone slow playing they're their consumer releases until they see more adoption but there's not more adoption because everyone's slow playing their releases and a move like that where it just becomes ubiquitous that you can easily and affordably build this into like I think Apple played the right move the way that they they showed off a Ark it there wasn't an AR version of the iPhone it's just built into the iPhone you didn't really have a choice it's there you can choose not to use it but developers know that they have an audience that they can reach out to standardized hardware that they can develop for this is where we need to go so to see some of this gain a little bit more traction in Windows Land because think about just like the you know like if we think they are compatible hardware and software is lean in Android land like there's none Microsoft aligned moral items in Linux so you know therefore makers and like the low end like the low end Apple products are for consumers it just feeds into this narrative of yeah this is Windows are for merits whereas apples for everyone and the you know VR is kind of just made into that kind of thing and doesn't in that notion make it more imperative that's the Snapdragon 805 being able to process developing AR and VR apps I I don't know that it makes it more necessary but I don't think you will get any AR apps for a Microsoft environment unless there's hardware that can use it and they don't have phones so you need to put that hardware on something so that's why I would still consider like if HP came out with a tablet it's running a Windows 10 S or you know you can do a full Windows 10 on it but it's got a are capable hardware that's the first baby step in addressing a glaring hole in microsoft's hololens and VR strategy they're trying to do this mixed reality thing which is good but it's basically just VR plus it's not gonna get us this AR stuff that is gonna come to most of the Android ecosystem and all of the future iPhones coming out and that's a bad place for Microsoft to be since they showed off the the most interesting aspects of AR with hololens like they've completely given up this amazing advantage that they could have had in the market and now they have to play catch-up again and I'm not surprised because it's Microsoft oh this is probably the biggest pressed the biggest press offensive that I've seen from Qualcomm in promoting one of its chips they had this huge conference in Hawaii and basically paid for everyone to ship them out there mr. Mobile Michael Fisher was had top-rated interview with a top rated top executive for snapdragon business and there's just a whole bunch of buzz and a whole bunch of terms again the gigabyte LTE and the SPU and other words that just as the third the Snapdragon 805 was the third-generation AI related or AI driven chip that they have implying that stay 35 in the 820 were designated the first and second gen but that I mean I don't know is that really like that would be retro actively painting them as focused on AI when they were still trying to recover from a whole bunch of other things such as overheating such as the basic operations of a chipset that's supposed to drive mobile applications without going catching on fire so I mean well and I think they've got I think they've got other discussion points below did our chipset catch you no you're not wrong it's just I kind of feel you know I'm sure companies are looking at their products beyond just do they explode no okay cool those were distracting factors they have you know and with Apple moving off of Qualcomm they've been having their little spats in court over modems and over power management ships and with but that you know that there and that and that's where I think you're you're you're spot on bringing this up like this is because Qualcomm is trying to build more mindshare around their involvement in the mobile industry I think they're trying to raise their own visibility profile up for two reasons the first of which we're talking about now in the story with Apple trying to break away from Qualcomm as much as they can power management radios antennas LTE capabilities going with any other vendor that can potentially fulfill that as Apple Inc welcome are still in court but the second story that also ties into this is the next one that we've got here is the continued attempts at acquisition from Broadcom and again I think if Qualcomm has is higher visibility there's more business mind chair and a little bit more consumer mind chair I think they've got a better job playing defense against Broadcom while they're going on offense against Apple well it's just the fact that Broadcom is still sitting still and saying that we're gonna stay here at $70 per share which is their offer and no more where many people who have been holding on to Qualcomm for a long time what at least $80 a share and this this public announcement that they had this campaign on multiple transit systems on billboards everywhere that was like we're the reason why you love taking pictures so much and all these esoteric kind of things and every ten point four seconds this happens this is why your grandma calls you or something like then it's just you know text on text on gradient or something and then this is all in a bid to just say there's a reason that we're still around and and or that they have over the industry and kind of the helplessness that there with Broadcom taking over whether they get their offer or not it just it boggles the mind to think that's that this is kind of a stand of some sorts well about way I mean because you summing up all of all of this these sort of shenanigans it's roundabout way of saying that Broadcom is is kind of making a play at a hostile takeover by setting the the pricing on on the stock the way that they have and then by not really negotiating what what this acquisition would look like well the news is that yeah they're they're nominating their own board of directors for Qualcomm and shareholders will get to decide during the next annual shareholders meeting and like March or April or something so that's that's the choice they have right there but I'm not sure how much this will play into it and especially with that there's also a pending acquisition of Qualcomm taking over NXP Semiconductors for like 30 billion dollars and even that's not supposed to make any difference at all so so I I think I think it's just getting back to the original point that you were making is we we looked at their their continuing shenanigans with Apple and they're continuing shenanigans with Broadcom it makes a lot of sense to me that they would be trying to get out ahead of the discussion raise their visibility do more outreach and more involvement with what products and services they actually offer and how that influences the things that consumers buy so flying a bunch of tech bloggers out for some extra coverage makes a lot of sense from that business perspective if you want to make the claim that your stock is worth more during this this kind of hostile action from Broadcom you can demonstrate that look at the coverage that we got look at what people are talking about look at how we influence the market and this is why we're worth more that to me makes a lot of PR sense like that's PR savvy as far as I'm concerned mmhmm yeah yeah I'm gay I mean uh I'm guessing that the payoff will be when things actually get into motion with integration at the OEM level and just how many of these features will get put out there and if these things get really popular in the end because smart speakers they're still going up in the you know holiday gift guides they're gonna get they're getting more popular wearables less so although it's I mean Apple watch is kind of its own isolated area and you were just wondering where Qualcomm can fit itself into the specific narratives so that's just my event so I mean you know you can definitely catch the rest of our coverage on that and I would also recommend hitting up the the pocket now Instagram talk about Instagram yeah look at the coverage that jerk went to Hawaii I want to cover one more viewer comment here live this is coming from Peter hatin guessing this is relevant now what do you think of this sudden announcement just a stir after we've seen the launch of the always connected PC which brings more full Windows apps and what he's linked to is your story Jules about Google killing Chrome apps so I you know for those of you who use the Chrome web browser that you could get these sort of built-in applications it was sort of I think it was an attempt at Google's part to make Chrome OS that worked with in OS 10 or Windows and you could use these little applets within your browser but it looks like that's gonna go away and these are separate stories I think because first of all Google first announced that Chrome apps were gonna die for non chrome OS platforms last year so this was then was coming it was just the fact that the App Store actually closed down and right just what's weak so that's what's condoling it's just the timing on this is lining right up with Microsoft actually trying to make a bigger play for mobility with Windows 10 s and partnering with mobile chipset makers and with yeah they want to turn the web into more more like applets they're calling them progressive web apps and it's not just Google it's the other browser makers too and they're just trying to make sure that you know we've come to use the phone as our main conduits for the Internet these days and they just want to be a little bit more friendly for mobile beyond what's been provided with html5 and like adaptive there you go the only thing that kind of makes me sad is I was really hoping to see back in Windows 8 days if you loaded the Developer Preview of Chrome it was essentially a nearly fully complete version of Chrome OS I was kind of hoping to see them continue doing that especially now that Android apps are becoming compatible with Chromebooks this is think about it like you load the Chrome web browser and you have a nearly perfect emulation space to run Android apps in that space could have been a really interesting way to fight Microsoft a Trojan horse literally build a Trojan horse for Google services and products right into that operating system but this is also why I think this is so interesting is because Microsoft's making this mobility play Windows 10s does not have the app ecosystem that Android does and Chrome s Chrome OS is quickly adopting that so conceivably on a chrome OS notebook for example I could use my favorite Microsoft services I could write my script in Microsoft Word because there's a great app for that I could do all of my audio recording in what does that I use tape machine is one of the apps that I use in Android do all my cutting splice and get that all set shoot all of the the footage from a phone import it directly into that Chrome OS into the Chromebook and then use something like PowerDirector on my laptop screen to assemble the video put it all together output it in 4k and upload it directly to YouTube and I'm not entirely sure I could do the same thing in Windows 10 s that's fair although you could do the same thing to the T with an Android phone as I'm saying is like saying from Microsoft's perspective Windows 10 S brings the streamlined more efficient you're not having to support legacy software idea but at the same time even though we're losing Chrome apps outside of Chrome OS Android apps have gotten pretty good like I think Apple was too early in calling the iPad pro a pro we just didn't have the software people weren't really utilizing apps to fulfill more mainstream mainstream computing program solutions but we're getting pretty close now oh yeah it's Android apps are getting better which you know leads to more of the question of what is the purpose of Chrome apps because you know we've it's always been crush terrible that the web-based app let's that is kind of full-featured and not and a lot of these are just packet like glorified redirects to sites with app features like before flash based even which is kind of in that solvent that's core to the hopefully address that to where you fire it up in a more of a browser type setup but then it's actually installing a component of what would have been a standalone app again it's it's I think it's kind of a little fractured right now but this is one of those I'm actually happy to see Google focusing like like clean up Chrome because I've stopped using chrome chrome has kind of become a bit of a mess get back to do I mean well and then put that developer talent towards improving other products so you don't have to keep playing this game of there's Chrome and we've got Chrome apps and then there's Chrome OS and there are Chrome OS apps and there's Android and Android like this is all this too much whittle this down and streamline it and I think everyone's gonna be happier Android apps are not meant to supplement Chrome apps they're meant to supplant them is what I'm saying that's all yeah but why so anyway um I want to thank everybody who joined the conversation Peter Hayden Andrew Wallace tmb listener some great questions coming in there so we really appreciate the chatter I think it's time to wrap this puppy up it weekends but they to it might not be the weekend so it's the work so there you have it folks another episode of the pocket now weekly has 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