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if any idea how many times I was like searching the word dongle to find the best one it's crazy how many products come up when you search that it's so much so now that safe search is actually not needed anymore when you're on Google let me say that word on books we're life I don't know so it says off air still waiting for it I did not have breakfast this morning by the way also I don't mind if the live comes on and we're in the middle of the thought so it's sure it's better that way yeah it means funny oh it's being weird damn you Hangouts yeah nothing you there I know just take the opportunity to steam my glasses on ASMR tea drinking nothing live I see nothing it is oh it's there because our live badge is not yeah it's lively we've got a hundred two people watching and really yeah okay so the ASMR did they did everyone see the ASMR tea-drinking just now yeah I love it okay well I'll take everybody's word for it that we are indeed live I'll tell you what why don't I before I even start why don't they just double you confirm for myself as well by pulling it up on my phone I'll see you later bill burr and also me my phone Jules yes we are we are definitely all recording this is gonna be great for pre-roll alright it's almost there almost there yes there it is we are definitely live yes I can confirm all right giving it a little second hello everybody and welcome to episode 344 of the weekly from PocketNow annex developers recorded on Friday the 8th of February 2019 for murder oh that one's really tough work from cellular mergers to cameras in your stylist potentially it's all the technology that makes us go and maybe it also makes us pipe I'll talk about that a little bit later hey it's Josh Vergara what's going on everybody um I got mighty everything is set up the cameras looking pretty good so I'm doing alright we are not going to have Jaime on the show this week I give him a bit of a pass he has a lot of work to get done before we all well a lot of people are heading to New York next week because let's just say there's a lot of stuff that we're gonna check out right before Barcelona so take for that what you will we do have with us today Brandon minimun as Jules wrote in our script joining me today is the dad Joe piaced of debts Brandon hello I am playing with my new toy this week yes it is a friend it is a mate and it is 20 and it's professional so it's demo that is the pro okay it looks a little big in your hands w if you don't mind me saying but it just it looked like the meet 20 is what I'm trying that's what somebody said yeah I knew that all the time just kidding I'm sorry you cut that are you are you are you are you enjoying the the phone at the very least the wide angle in the rear right and then I mean obviously high specs on there I mean our our illustrious guests I'm about to introduce and I have spent a lot of time with the mates when you Pro actually we're both big fans of it yeah it's awesome the UM one of the biggest surprises is the super macro mode it's just unbelievable how close Union yeah indeed well we might get a few thoughts of that from our guest this week joining us from New York Brooklyn in particular is bored at work himself in a bong at a how's it going thing thank you very much I finally have my voice back after being sick and celebrating my team winning the Super Bowl yet again you notice I'm wearing an L a hat you know it's just kind of the game-winning buzzer beater at uh the Celtics the other day I'm just saying you got to take what you got to get man and it was Rondo just say well happened your voice why'd you lose your voice was there like a lot stuff going on I was kind of sick last week and over the weekend and then my voice was already raspy and then I watched the Super Bowl at a bar with mostly Jets and Giants fans in New York so it was basically myself Sam and you know 40 other people who were rooting against the Patriots so I was yelling I can imagine that was I will admit you know regardless of the outcome that was actually a pretty good game like it was I was on the edge of my seat most of the time yeah it was a tough defensive battle but we are here to talk about other things other than folks yes yes yes and abang as you know audience has been on the show before we're so glad to have it back on make sure you get into the chat as well I do have the video right here Jules will also be looking at comments in the chat so make sure you let your voices be heard and we'll go ahead and get into our stories for this week when we have a bit of a we have less stories this week than we typically do sometimes we try to really pack everything in but we decided to sort of get a little bit more casual with the number of stories so we're gonna go into a longer form discussion this week so hopefully everybody will have plenty of things to say and we would love to respond to your stuff in the live chat alright so one thing that I did want to have Jaime talk about had he been on the show was a recent video that he released on pocket now and that was regarding the razor phone - now I will do a quick synopsis of the video you know in his stead basically Jaime was able to finally come back to the razor phone - and review it after having it for like three or so months and to explain to everybody the reason why he hadn't done the full review yet well if it was supposed to be a gaming phone he wanted the most gamer experience he could have on that phone and it had to do with in particular a game controller the razor ride - mobile which I mean I did receive a few weeks back I think right around the end of CES we were actually able to start using the ride you mobile the ride you mobile has a clamp on it has all of the buttons that you would expect from it it does have an Xbox layouts in terms of where the control sticks are and what the button layout is and Jaime was super excited to actually try out games using the controller whether or not his experience was why he was expecting that's a whole different story the bottom line here is that Android gaming doesn't really have the support for controllers that I think a lot of people were expecting but that's also kind of true for PC games and I was hoping to get some some thoughts from you in a bong you've used the razor phone - you actually are into a lot of gaming and you have hat you'd have used that phone for extensive gaming if I'm not mistaken yeah I have in terms of mobile gaming which is something I'm trying to get back into even though it's a very big market it's one that as a gamer I I'm not too fond of it's you know they're not many titles that fulfil my experience but the razor phone does handle that pretty well you know in terms of cooling in terms of frame rate especially just you know playing the games on the screen having that really fast refresh rate does wonders now I have also done a video on the rider controller and it's a nice controller I like the concept it just feels a little bit too heavy for me when you hold it to control itself without putting a device on there feels heavy which is nice until you put a device on there then it feels like you always have to tilt it up you know you've got this action where your hands doing this rather than just resting to play so you've got that with the controller itself but it works well it works well plus you've got remappable buttons and all that kind of stuff in there I think you know when you mention support for controllers in with android games because Android gaming is just like Android operating system where it is free for all aka you know Google has not done a good job I think in saying this is what gaming should look like on Android you know you have to wait per game basis for support so for tonight just announced that now they now support controllers for gaming on Android I think this was probably last week so that's I think that's where the lot of the problem lies because you the way Google handles Android and also maybe gaming in particular is it's kind of like you know hey yes a space do your thing and there's not a lot of you know fine-tuning or control for that because you would think controller support was should be baked in you know into the OS kind of like Windows you know Windows is pretty easy if you plug in a USB controller you're good you're good to go when it's PlayStation Xbox or even something like the right you yeah and the way that I because I did do it I did I did my video on the right um mobile the controller in particular and what I was trying to the point I was trying to get across there was that there are a lot of games that support controllers but what you'll notice about those games is that it's games that make sense for controllers you know cuz you won't have a game like candy crush just like you wouldn't necessarily have a game that's like a full of real-time strategy game on PC work really well with a controller you would probably opt for a mouse and keyboard in that case you know and it's the same on Android you got to think a little bit about what games actually make complete sense and even though mobile sub controller support apparently is supposed to be coming for fortnight and pub G at some point it may or may not be fully supported at the moment brandon some thoughts from urine because like are you are you a big gamer yourself i wanted to ask and among a question because oh yeah i'm trying to justify the existence of these gaming phones and he partially answered already but isn't it true that a gaming phone is a good power user phone and isn't it also true that a good power user phone is also a good gaming phone yeah i mean that is a very good question because devices like oneplus for example right which in terms of performance is one of the fastest performing android phones on the market and when you gain with a oneplus when I was in the oneplus 60 with the 845 processor it was smooth you didn't of course have that fast refresh rate on the on the display I think the problem with gaming phones and gaming and Android is that they are not enough games at least here to to fully justify you know picking up a gaming phone so you know maybe if a gaming phone we're priced cheaper like someone like the shark for instance where you could see it makes more sense because now that's so specifically focused on gaming and its price point is say let's call it I don't care where the shark was but it's 500 bucks then you can kind of go okay alright I'm buying it specifically because I want you know this kind of performance the other thing too is that it depends on the gaming for so like the ROG phone from a soos is overclocked to give you higher performance you can overclock performance per game so it games like fortnight really take advantage of that because you can boost the performance as well as pub G itself so those are the kind of things it's it's the minutia it's it's it's almost similar to gaming laptops in a sense but at least with laptops and gaming the performance difference is so different from like an ultrabook that you really want to go with that over a gaming phone compared to a high-end phone so I think right now there's just not enough software to justify that oh you know difference so for if you were playing fortnight on an ROG phone and then you switch to a1 plus 60 you're saying you would be able to notice a performance difference that would impact your gameplay I will be able to notice the refresh rate on the display that's the biggest thing I can I can see the refresh rate difference and you know it depends on how good you if you like me who is you know terrible fortnight people have seen my gameplay it doesn't matter if you're a really good for tonight player it matters a lot because I think fortnight is cross-platform right so you're not playing just against mobile users right you're playing against PC users as well so that refresh rate comes into play because anyone who is clearly the mouse and keyboard is just gonna take you out no matter what it's also a longevity thing to write because something like the ROG phone like I have in my hands here there's that peripheral that is a fan so it keeps it as cool as possible for as long as possible so there might be some other phones not necessarily the oneplus but there might be phones that actually heat up the longer you play the more intensively you play as sushi if it's plugged in so there may also be that issue as well but you you bring up a good point Brandon about the different features that might be coming up with gaming phones cuz I know that for myself when I look at laptops and I want something that is highly productive or is potentially highly productive I tend to look at gaming laptops first because I know that they have the most bells and whistles so we've had we've already mentioned a few we have the isuzu ROG we have the razor we have the Black Shark there was actually the Nubia at CES are there any particular are there any particular features in a gaming phone that you are really sort of clamoring for what would be that killer feature that a gaming fund potentially has that you would want out of there either of you guys it's gotta be the refresh rate like an among said I mean because in terms of like thermal performance and cooling I think a lot of phones have gotten really good at it in terms of battery life a lot of phones have gotten really good at it speakers you know front-facing speakers are kind of a necessity but a lot of phones have just such loud speakers now I mean that it pretty much leaves refresh rate then that makes the difference that makes a gaming phone a gaming phone for the hardcore players so do you think that like the cooling systems haven't exactly I proven themselves as a killer app or a killer feature rather I should say I mean personally when I use any one of my phones and I've got a lot around here they regardless of what I'm doing they don't heat up like phones used to they have done they do a really good job at staying cold granted I'm not playing an hour a fortnight but um I can't I can't imagine that having a fan on the back of a phone makes a tremendous difference then again I might be totally wrong about that I I think to me cooling does play I think Android phones do a better job because the iPhone does not cool well even though just just because the last time I did a gaming video in the iPhone in five minutes it started just getting warm Android phones do a better job because most people are now using you know liquid cool you know cooling on you know the semiconductor and I think he with the allergy foam with the fan my experience it's done it's done well I think I've played for maybe about thirty minutes so so and I noticed a difference that a you was just you just felt cooler like it actually felt like a well-ventilated PC build where you put your hand in there and it's just like cool air as opposed to just heat from your your thermals you know blowing up so I think that is important but for me it's it's games more than anything else then because gaming phones you remind me of it says hardcore gaming and just like gaming pcs the problem is there are no games that take advantage I mean a lot of games are mobile games out there they're new games every day but you don't need a gaming phone for those right it's it's tap here swipe here do this do that as opposed to anything that's pushing the performance you know of these of these devices especially be the kind of chips we're having we know how good the 8:45 was 855 is supposed to have you know much better performance Apple has a really good chip on theirs too as well and so it's Huawei and but I don't see games that take full advantage of quote-unquote you know they say these can replace desktops but I'm not seeing the performance they're games that can do that and that's that's what I want to see okay I've made the point a couple of times before lad like the what I when I find so cool about mobile gaming is that we're getting so many ports of classic games like Final Fantasy games Dragon Quest or some other good ones all the tell-tale games you know are IP to telltale as a company but the what I love about that is that I could take a phone and just tell people who are looking to get into any forms of gaming and they wants to play some of the classics that you can actually do it on your phone like can you imagine back in the day you could have played Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic on the go like that bad that blows my mind and I absolutely love that and that's and that was kind of the point that I was trying to make that there are some really amazing games that are coming out now on Android Ragnarok game is an example actually I've been playing ass all nine actually think that's a great game too and there they are awesome but don't forget about the classics also because this is like the perfect bed for those kinds of things just before we get into our next topics I just have a couple of final thoughts I wanted to bring up a couple of alternatives I'll show mine off of quick and then Anna bond I'm sorry if I didn't tell you about this earlier but I wanted you to show off that SteelSeries because I've been getting advertisements for that SteelSeries and that looks really dope too I kind of want to check it out myself he should told me it's somewhere around you don't know it's it's on the other table that's all I mean I could I could go grab it I mean if you want okay while you do that I'm just gonna show off this one here the this is one of my favorites actually this is probably my favorite controller of all time this is a SNES controller retrofitted with analog sticks that also has shoulder buttons everything that you could ask for at the very least this is one of the best switch controllers that you can get but it works for PC and Android I'm actually doing my video on this once a day this is the 8-bit do SF 30 Pro I freaking love this thing and and abang said earlier that the riot mobile is a little bit beefy so too chunky this thing travels like this thing is awesome I would bring this with me everywhere so she would this meet book that I'm using a really nimble classic gaming setup yeah but then there's this new one brand new one that just came out that I think looks pretty sick yeah it's the SteelSeries controller this is it right here it's a bit dull in terms of lookers it's all it's almost like black on black really but it's got more of the PlayStation layout which I'm not the biggest fan I'm just used to the opposing layout like that it's a comfortable controller to use though and you know it's got bluetooth Wi-Fi it's got a USB dongle which on PC it's best to plug it in via the USB dongle you just get better response times and bluetooth you can have some bluetooth interference because this is proprietary Wi-Fi signal battery life has been good and on mobile it's it's it's old it works well it works well on with every PC game I tried I think I tried about six games so far plugged in it works well mobile as well works pretty good and it it it also had it doesn't have a cradle like the right you these attachments you can buy it's a think like ten bucks which you can use as a cradle with it but I do like the controller so far and I've been using it on my PC games even though I can use my xbox controller but I'm using a PC games lately so far yeah I'm so sorry Brandon I mean I know that we're the gamers over here having their little side discussion you guys are so lucky that you have the time to play games we don't know I don't have absolutely I do not have the time we just this is what an enthusiast sounds like when they have or rather a junkie sounds like when they can't get what they want I'll put it this way I have Resident Evil 2 installed on my xbox that's it I'm stopping God of War listen let's never go there and I just installed division 2 beta yes there was also that I don't want to get too far off topic but like they also have the the new battle royale game that I actually kind of expected yes oh yeah I did try it out for 10 minutes I mean it's free I mean how could I not try it well yeah see this is Brandon this is what gamers sound like when they can game as much as they want oh man okay so um I did have a couple of final thoughts on there but actually you know what when we go and move into our next story so with all of the games that are coming out on Android and on all of these smartphones they can be rather large even classic games like Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic takes up at least two gigabytes of storage so that might be a bit of an argument that storage is going to be like the next frontier and apparently there are already some manufacturers that are creating phones with up to one terabyte of on-board storage not even anything that has to do with SD cards or anything like that this is on board built-in storage now we've already talked a little bit I think it was last week or the week before that the Samsung Galaxy S 10 may have this kind of storage option and we did talk a little bit about how if that actually makes sense or not well we'll rehash that discussion a little bit here but there was one manufacturer called smart smart is M I don't even know if I'm pronouncing that correctly but I just I mean allowed me to be 12 years old first eye game I just thought it was a really fun name the name of their phone was the nut r1 so I mean what phone are you using using the nut I thought it was fine anyway if you were to take a phone from this company which unfortunately it's not really around anymore they they had I guess had too much overhead maybe they went too hard too fast or too too early rather and they just like used up all of their funds but potentia this was a phone that was supposed to be about $1400 well the snapdragon 845 8 gigabytes of ram but one tear by a view FS 2.1 storage that's that's a lot of that's a lot of storage and it seems like they threw a lot at the wall for this phone and it kind of makes me remember do you guys remember Li Eko yeah I mean their whole situation was a little bit different though because they did they had a phone and then they tried a whole lot of other things and then it ends up being way too much for them and then of course now we have what we have when it comes to Lika which is nothing but would you have a like without even thinking about Samsung potentially doing this with the s10 they as the rumors are true the many variants of the s10 that might be announced pretty soon would you actually want a phone with that much storage in it would it actually would you actually use it is that something that you would be willing to pay for it yes oh really okay well Brandon seems like you had a yet a counterpoint I'm curious why I know Vaughn says yes but I was going to say it's really not intended for us you know we take for granted if we want to stream an entire album we stream it if we want to you know download YouTube we just watch it but in a lot of parts of the world data is very expensive and not available and much slower and so you need to store a lot of stuff locally if you want to have media consumption so for a lot of people listening and a lot of people in the u.s. 1 terabytes just completely unnecessary because you can just get stuff from the cloud and stream and download but for a lot of people in the world they don't have that luxury hmm I kind of agree with you there I mean we actually have a comment just now andreas new Mert I'm gonna say 1 terabyte for 8k recording that's if phones could even do a K in the first place like we're not quite there yet for coding sure but how much of that work morning what are you actually gonna do wait I mean true I definitely agree with Brandon I think that's a very good point but also here you think about it you know the rumors are that the front-facing camera would do 4k the rear camera we do HD are 10 recording so if you do nation are 10 recording that's already bigger just smile sighs hello and then you you add in the fact that if you know we were at Qualcomm event and they talked about bouquet recording as well that would be a bigger file size than just regular 4k recording so already you're looking at things that will just eat up more space and I do like the fact that as a user I can hold my own content that's how I think in general is that whatever content I want to watch whether it's something that I have to pre download or I can record my own stuff I don't have to ship it to the cloud I don't have to pass it on and I think that makes a whole lot of sense for a lot of people plus in my case I'm a creator so recording and having enough space is always great well and I agree with you there like I'm one of those people that like is really into vlogging with smartphones I've actually never with with current options in Android I've never run out of space on a phone to the point where I was actually like kept from creating my content so I guess I guess for me it's I'm never going to complain for having more I'm never going to complain that one terabytes there and if I do get a one terabyte phone let's say in the review unit then fine I'll try to use it as much as I can it'll be there but I just there's this one problem that I have with this whole thing it's that there's this huge price disparity when it comes to storage options in smartphones you have a company like Samsung that is going to make I mean they're they're phones are already famously expensive at this point but a one terabyte option could be like $1600 or we don't even know how much it might end up being meanwhile you have 256 gigabytes of an equivalent type of phone from Samsung that might be $1,000 from oneplus that's only like $600 like what is what is justifying the price point for some of these people when we have storage options from like Apple that are also super expensive as well like there's this price disparity that's so crazy to me and if you want to have the best of the best seems weird that we have one terabyte storage options that might be way more expensive than any of the other equivalents I think it's simple though the the just building that one terabyte fab right now according to reports they just started which means it's just going to be expensive because this is the first set of one terabyte fibers that are coming out for devices so Samsung is going look we're not gonna sell as much one terabyte devices so we can jack up that price at justify the cost most people are gonna buy a what 256 or you know whatever is that 128 256 price range buffer there but for those who want it you know to me I would see that you know the reason they also that mentality works well is if you look at what they did with the galaxy notes a lot of people a lot of note users probably went with the 512 I'm guessing because I know a bunch who did who bought because note users are considered power users and they go look I want that storage I want that use case it might not work well for the SS line but I think you know hey if you're building it right now and they're creating there's one terabyte memory fabs then it's just going to be expensive because it's the first line that's coming up they're the first ones doing it anyway no one else is you know what I find funny is like I feel like these features including one terabyte hard drives are gonna be things that we see on phones phones always get the first thing because I just received one of hallways media pads and it has mid-range specs I'm in keep thinking to myself why don't we put high-end specs in a tablet or in a different form factor where it might make more sense for the type of niche user that wants to pick that up who needs that power in that maybe they don't use it every single day but when they do use it they do need that power they need that storage they need that media and I find it funny that this is the kind of stuff that we get on our phones which end up becoming so expensive but we never see those features anywhere else what's interesting is that people associate high storage with future-proofing for some reason and they're willing to pay a significant premium you know they think I'm just going to get a you know a tremendous amount of space for some reason I might need it in the future I don't want to have to get a new phone 18 months so I'm just you know willing to pay a lot for one terabyte I don't know why I need that but you know I'm gonna I might need it I think I think to your point Josh is the fact that to be honest the only time you see this kind of big memory jumps are within laptops and cell phones do two things you use the most tablets just are not that effective because you need to add accessories to fully use that tablet doesn't matter what's happened it is your cell phone you pull out of your pocket you use it right there your laptop you open it you start doing whatever work you want to do the tablet has a form factor is one where even with Apple right with the the new iPad so many people read about it but if you look at people's productivity setups they are like three dongles couple attachments before you start even doing any work so I think that's why it makes sense for like laptops and cell phones because those are the things that immediately you will pick it up and you start using that device and you go okay yeah this make sense yeah I mean and I see where you're coming from with that I do totally agree it's just I couldn't I could not stay away my my disappointment once I turned on that tablet like oh yeah bigger screw all this dick like what was it uh the picker in 600 or something I he definitely wasn't the latest one but yeah a couple of people in our chats Mark C 609 is supporting your your thought v 512 gigabyte no nine so there you go keep John walk even though he had a 64 gigabyte Note 8 before that so big jump up there our previous commenter andreas new merit hopefully again I'm saying it right lossless audio formats offline title support libraries or title playlist libraries that's true like lossless audio I've not gone into it whatsoever so I that you know raw file raw photo file editing rough raw photos also that might be a big thing as long as it becomes an option in more of our cameras so I get it there is going to be this demand but I don't feel like most people kind of understand that at least not yet but it's up to a company like Samsung to appease literally every type of user so I guess that kind of explains it there um all right so wherever the Samsung Galaxy S 10 might end up it might be on any pretty much every carrier I mean that's the case when it comes to Samsung but there might be one less that Samsung has to worry about at least over the next three years because there's a bit of a merger that's supposed to be happening t-mobile and Sprint are on their way to become one entity and from the article that is over at pocketnow.com what I notice here is that they're calling it the new t-mobile so I'm like okay fine like that's fine just keep Sprint's just going to let go by the wayside but one thing that is great about this is that John Legere who I think has done some great stuff during the uncarrier era of t-mobile has pretty much said that over the next three years which is potentially how long it will take for these two carriers to actually merge properly lead ledger ledger as Jules is okay John ledger we all die computing the share anyway so even though D even though a decrease in competition in the general carrier mark you might mean that prices actually go up what John I'll just say John is trying to do is freeze prices to where they are right now for any customers that are on spring and customers that are on t-mobile so that over the next three years while the mergers actually happening their prices are not going to go up as a result of all of it so one thing I want to ask what quake is doesn't you we all saw the uncarrier stuff happening I remember there was one story that I have when the first two uncarrier moves actually happened I think it was bin John I actually got to go to a concert that t-mobile put up and it was Zedd Little John and Bruno Mars I can't believe I was actually super happy that I got to go to that one at the LA amphitheater it was so awesome they've been doing some pretty awesome stuff and I want to get some thoughts from you guys about like where t-mobile has gone what they've done to like change the carrier landscape what carriers are you on even an toboggan Brandes I am on AT&T really honey okay I'm on t-mobile okay so you're on t-mobile I'm the only one who has fully converted to Google Phi I guess I mean as much as I love t-mobile I mean I just couldn't justify having two different lines but okay so with 18 T being your carrier Brandon like have you seen have you have you as a customer outside of what t-mobile has been doing have you has it been enviable in in any fashion like have any of the things that t-mobile has done as the uncarrier like made you want to jump ship absolutely and I kind of lost track of all the stuff they were doing I tend to remember there was like unlimited music streaming there was just so many little things and t-mobile is less expensive if you compare apples to apples with AT&T a while ago t-mobile had this test drive where they would send you an iPhone 5s and you could use it for several weeks and see like you know how data speeds were and how call quality was because before that t-mobile had a poor reputation in terms of reliability so I did the test drive and I was like hmm Tebow was less expensive let me see how the coverages and I kid you not in this area in Southeast Pennsylvania most of the time t-mobile did not work indoors which is you know kind of a problem because I'm a human being and I go inside sometimes so it was a non-starter I'm sure it's gotten better since then but I I would love the switch to t-mobile I could probably save hundreds a year but I stay with AT&T because their their coverage here is bulletproof yeah I know the coverage thing is always a question that was the reason why I was on Verizon for a certain amount of time even being in even being in Greater La like coverage was very spotty for both 18c and t-mobile which is why Verizon will always kind of have a soft spot for me in terms of just their overall LTE coverage but in your case in abang being in like Metro like New York City there's an t-mobile kind of king out there yeah t-mobile is Lord and and reign supreme in New York yes here this bonkers I've been a t-mobile customer since 2003 my superior spring customer and Idol after some uselessness which spreads but you know Brandon's right t-mobile's had it's its rough days one of the things they did was when they eventually did their full 40 rollout instead of just HSPA+ is they did it the right way by do you know basically by going for by for my mo and the biggest thing now that has helped them is they now have a 600 megahertz bandwidth so that of course because basically the reason why I just didn't work in apartments is because higher bandwidth is almost like just call it higher levels it's higher in the cloud and it's lower plus when they buy Sprint's and get all that WiMAX bandwidth for 5g it would be insane that's what they're good for that's really why they want sprint because they've just got this bundle of stuff not this was the customers but about that bandwidth that they can push now in terms of all the benefits as a t-mobile customer now it's it's kinda it's kind of customary to just expect something new from them you know cuz I can stream Netflix free without using in my data I can stream my music as well I the other benefit is is if I'm flying on any airline that uses Google Wi-Fi I don't have to pay I can just connect with t-mobile I miss that and it was it says it says only text me you can send text messages to people but you actually can browse the web so it's just a quick cheat for anyone you just basically log in with your team enroll and you can browse the web with it so those kind of things they've done well and of course the contact the t-mobile Tuesday whether you get to win stuff discounts of movie tickets I think they've done a lot of things to ensure that even though they've had gaps in service in certain areas that customers feel very welcomed which is plus again you're looking at the price that they actually portray but in places like New York I still live in Boston t-mobile has just been really good in terms of service where my AT&T foreign my gigabit LTE speeds here I get up to highest of learners about 220 I think in New York for downloads uploads around 100 how much how much do you pay and how many how much data do you have for that price I've got an older plan to pay 70 bucks unlimited I used to be I've got that old that mean my old old plan was like 50 bucks unlimited I wish I still had that one but it's 70 bucks in limited data and the only thing that's capped is my tethering which is yeah 10 gigs yeah I think I remembered I think that was exactly the plan that I used to have before we had people in the chat talking a little bit about carriers abroad and I wish I if there was one thing that I do wish Jaime was here for was the discussion on that cuz I wanted to hear what carriers or like out in Honduras which is obviously where he is right now but if I could just shine a little bit of a light on what it's like outside of the US I do know that carrier incentives like what t-mobile's trying to do what the uncarrier moved me and all that stuff it's actually really common in many other countries like for example in now I'm not gonna get into any of the actual like social political like implications of this but there are carriers in the Philippines that will literally give you free data you don't have to pay for anything if you're only browsing Facebook so we don't to get deeper into that I'm just saying that that is a thing so carrier incentives are not or nothing new they're kind of new to the u.s. I will admit t-mobile is kind of pioneering all of that but one last question before we get into our break before we get to our last couple stories after the break do you get any worries about monopolies with this with this kind of stuff you know because we're seeing the loss of an old old company like Sprint being merged into something and now it's going to be t-mobile and even bigger company after that does that does monopoly or antitrust stuff ever worry you guys with this I mean I think in my case it does because you only have now you've just got a big three right you've gotten mobile Verizon and AT&T and you know who's to say that the cats together to you know set things a certain way especially with 5g coming because you know I remember when we I don't think you were there but I was at Qualcomm and they were talking about 5g and how it is cost-saving for carriers um the the way they needed a break that was like hey look because of this you know just one aspect of five Jesus speeds because of how fast it is it you know the fact that you can go in and download that one gigabytes movie or to do buy movie from Netflix so quickly and get off the network allows for other people to jump on so it literally streaming like streamline the process for the carriers and this should actually be spending less money but we do know very well that that's not gonna happen and again we the kind of bandwidth that 5g produces are we gonna see that switch to you know homestyle internet pricing or are they gonna now give us different weird tiers now this becomes harder when you only have three companies instead of four or you know more companies that provide competition where it's now three aware you know if 18c sets a price that is somewhat okay Verizon will just match and then t-mobile my just offer slightly less you know even though it's not necessarily price-fixing but now you just got this thing where all the prices are somewhat similar and not necessarily anything worth jumping or saying oh I've got a really good deal here I can move mm-hmm any final thoughts from your Brendon before we get to our break yeah I was gonna say it does concern me about monopolies in this industry because unlike any other industry it's not welcoming to competition because you can't just wake up one day and say I'm gonna start a carrier you'll need tens hundreds of billions of dollars and it's just like it's virtually not possible in other industries you know whether it's mobile phone operating systems or PC hardware or really anything else if you really wanted to you could get into an industry if you had enough funding but to to create a carrier to with AT&T and Verizon is quite literally impossible and so it does make me nervous that these guys with the big power will have too much power and not the benefits of a market economy where other people can come in and compete yeah I agree the well we're gonna see we're gonna have to see what happens I mean even then after after three years we don't know what's going to happen I'm just going to be a bit of a pessimist and say probably the prices are gonna go up anyway in three years but at least until then you might have the prices be where they are you're right though Brendan like the people can't just wake up and just like try to become a carrier like there was literally one business here I just want to this is funny that's why I just want to say real quick there was one business here that tried to open up to give fiber internet to people to call giggle fiber that that building is now a doughnut shop let me just say that all right so we're gonna go ahead and jump into our break before we get to our last couple of stories the PocketNow weekly is brought to you by swap up where you can browse from a huge collection of gently used tough phones all right let me do that one more time the pocket net weekly is brought to you by swap where you can browse from a huge collection of gently used phones all that price is 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this phone especially high me and I could see why it's it's blisteringly fast the hardware's impeccable the charging is unbelievably fast the camera you can do so many creative things with it I'm really glad I got it I could see why people loved it so much so I'm really I've been really happy to try something different in the last week so yeah have you been spending a lot of time with that wide-angle camera like gives us the first wide angle that you've used or it can't be huh I've used the wide angle on LG phones I think I think it's great I mean wide angle should be standard on every phone and it's probably going to be you have any thoughts on EMU I actually because I know the software tends to be a polarizing feature I really don't like it like it's forget it's forgivable because it's clean and light and it feels a little bit like iOS but you know it's nice and they did a good job with the gesture system it's not as good as oneplus but it's pretty damn close and you know it's colorful and I mean it's just fast so you kind of forget about the iOS ness of it yeah I gotta say I'm really excited to see what Wally has to bring to MWC I have associate er that meets when you Pro has like you know just really wowed so many people I mean we clearly have a p-series phone that's supposed to be coming up so I wonder what they're gonna bring out the woodwork there anyway you have a few minutes left so I do want to ask you a couple of quick questions and then we're gonna expound upon them while in a bong and I do the last two stories so okay the last two stories that we have the chance been going crazy about it already yes there is this idea that the s-pen is going to have some sort of camera in it there's a patent that Samsung was just granted that would potentially put a camera inside of that little stylus harkening back to all of the James Bond / superspy stuff like would you actually want a camera in your S Pen Brandon because you you were a fan of the no 9 for a bit I remember what a camera actually adds to that variance um if they can get the optics right and the battery life I think it would be actually really cool because you can take it anywhere that a phone might be too cumbersome to take so think of like a concert or like a family event just to take you know a camera in your pocket that's the shape of a pen I mean it's super lightweight you'll problem I mean if it's any good which probably won't be because how do you fit good optics in there if it's any good you'll be taking more pictures with it because you can take you could put it around your neck as a lanyard or stick it in you know in your jeans you have that little second pocket you could stick it in there and it's just more more opportunities to take pictures if you don't have to lug around your you know your your regular you know 6.5 inch screen phone well okay and you know what now that you brought up all those points we'll just get into the greater discussion and then Brandon you can you can pop out whenever you need but like you just talked about all of these scenarios where a camera inside of a really easily pocketable pen would work but what situations would you actually want to take a picture using an S Pen like that like that's my question I'm a little bit flabbergasted as to why Samsung would even think that this is a practical feature situations where you don't want to lug around your phone let's say you're going on the jog and you should take your S Pen on the jog for some reason and maybe you see like a nice mountain or something and you didn't bring your your you know your your phablet phone essentially because it jostles around in your pockets while you run so anyway I'm gonna drop off there guys go for it alright thanks for doing that guys alright so Hanna bong s fan camera actually you know what before we get into that any any general thought she wanted to share it's I like check-in because we haven't seen you in a bit oh well let me ask you the S Pen one because it's just it's still in my head the camera is not for taking photos it's for better it's better optic coordination with the tactile screen on the on the display so you can actually write better it's got it's basically position point sensing so it's gonna be pointing towards the tip so that I can see yeah that's what the cameras for I mean is really is that my agent actually is has I actually happened in no no one started I just but because you're not going to be able to fit any sensor size that is worth a dime in that S Pen size so that's why it's best for that because it's all about it's basically the camera or it may not even be a camera it might be that camera sensor that is literally just on understanding where it is in touching the screen pressure point writing when you lift off those kind of calculations so that as you're writing you be you should be getting smoother writing strokes or drawing more precision besides all the pressure points as well okay we may never use it because they just were officially granted this patent and it's you know whatever yeah I mean we have months and months before the note is even a noun so we don't even know what the s-pen is gonna be like but the thing that makes you sad if you look at this patent diagram where's the clicky top like that's by far the best part about the s-pen I don't see you know clicky top on here so I'm disappointed today 10a now that says light entering unit though like and it doesn't it doesn't seem to come up you know yeah but also I guess if you look at the patent imaging this is from the galaxy know what five that well that that particular - yeah so again the patent was just officially granted doesn't mean that this is it or it will come or this is how it will look like it's just what's they're trying I'm at least were they trying to do but I think again it just all depends it depends on you know what it would be used for and I think we'll have to just wait and see but I don't think this is something that um you know is is for taking photos that way you know well I mean Jules's azing edgeless like because he's saying in the chat here that the s-pen already seems a good enough on its own but obviously putting a camera in it would make some noise and obviously people all these companies want to be as newsworthy as possible every time the cycle comes out but yeah it's weird because like okay so Jules has the the patent diagram up there right now the the optical system seems to be pointing outward it's not like you hold it like a kind of a pen on me but oh so yeah it's it's it's this right the flat side right like it's it's this side right and they're pointing that way to take a photo right oh no I well I thought it would looked a little bit more like the neuralyzer from men in black where it's holding yeah oh yes so this way it sticks yeah I mean I guess which is why they might have had to tie the clicky bit by I mean yeah I mean what-what would even use that for like aside from just like the like hey look I've got a camera yeah I mean when it was the note 5 this would have been cool because it's just saying that oh now I've got something I can I can take a photo or but again it's a patent like everybody gets patents approved you know every day and it's I don't I don't I don't think this is something they will throw in just because what I think we know is coming out on the galaxy s 10 that is gonna be transferred to the note is it Lots it's a lot of stuff so I don't think that you know having that camera there plus the the cameras that are gonna be on the s10 are gonna be just so improved which would be the same camera system on the note which you know slightly improvements what's the point of having this I think they were just granted a patent and then everybody's just overthinking it that's a yeah probably but that that is that it's kind of part of our job descriptions being in the industry but also there are a couple of people in the chat and they bring up some pretty interesting points if the s-pen oh sorry flame off yeah la can't even speak right now Frank Clow plowin if the s-pen cam will kill the front cam then let's go for it no cutout for the screen would be nice but like you would take out the S Pen to take a selfie yeah so either you do this or you do hey hold up a second hold up this that's that's where the you know I mean that's already too much work by the way did everybody see that just now did everybody see Anna bong with that weird flex just now you just showed off that super special note 9 in his hand right yeah none of the only people we know who has the Casey Neistat edition I wasn't trying to flex at all it's just it's just what I use this is my daily driver itself I don't blame you I don't get me whatsoever that's such a cool it's free nope nice yeah no you asking what I wanted to talk about that was in the one thing no story after this oh yeah go for it if you have any option where you want to talk about story that came out that said Microsoft is looking to put Xbox Live on iOS Android and the switch and it happens to what they're trying to do this year which again is low riding so we have streaming game services this shadow which after I want to check out which allows you to play on your PC your smartphone supposedly we've got M video and video streaming service that allows you to do that as well but Nvidia's is only you know per PC you can so I can stream I tried that out and I had a video where I played she recalled due to World War two on MacBook Air and I was doing 180 frames per second at 1080p so Microsoft is trying to do the same thing because word is this year they're going to release a streaming xbox 100 bucks that you can stream all your games directly to it and you know with everything that's going on this is this is this very big strategy that Satya Nadella had is you know we build out our cloud services ur right now you know cloud is big for Microsoft a lot of game developers are using Azure servers for their game development and cross-platform play so the reason why we fired this big boom of course battlin plays because it comes from Microsoft sir so Microsoft is owning that so look at the strategy if they are owning that then releasing a streaming Xbox makes a lot of sense now and then you add to the fact that if I can now play now we talked about gaming phones if I can now play those Xbox games on a razor phone or something like that on the go and continue from where I stopped at home is even better yeah and I think that size to be interesting things to see it's in this one Sony tried to do this with the PlayStation now service 10 day and well not not that they had a streaming what they did the pleasure yeah no didn't know they do have a streaming service no stream said you can stream your PlayStation game from home to a laptop exciting Xbox can only do streaming within the home so I can stream from my xbox a I'm playing Resident Evil and say I have someone watching more than once watch TV I can stream you to my PC here and you know continue to game so you can do it in home but this is not just in home this is in home any device this is why they want to move Xbox Live to as many even the switch as many devices as possible and it's a very interesting strategy of saying forget the hardware race software is where it's gonna be at right and not just software in titles but software and how you deliver those titles I agree and that's a great prospect I mean it would be the way to actually and this is the reason why Hydra genius is because that would actually be the way for me to get into Xbox stuff I've never been an Xbox player but if it was that accessible maybe a subscription service something like that maybe I would actually do it or they already have a subscription service service way it's a $20 a month for Xbox one S Plus Xbox Live and then I think it's $40 a month I could be wrong somebody correct me for the Xbox one X so I can see so when they started that a lot of people kind of like ah why I'm like this is the plan to to get you to just subscribe to the streaming box it's 100 bucks you either pay for that at me and you're done and then you pay like $20 a month for for all access to Xbox games so it sounds like you're kind of into this like potential future of ours we're like let's say you have a low-end PC but you have the streaming service and great internet you could still play triple-a titles yeah I mean you paint really titles at 1080p I mean me personally I would still have the Xbox that does the aka at home because I have to but but I think for everyone else like you said for someone like you you can now go okay yeah I'll get the streaming box to play the Xbox no problem or I'll just pay the $20 a month and I can play on my phone I can play on my my laptop and it doesn't matter what laptop I have at this point now right because you just streaming exactly you know I can I can do that and and then when you're not adding 5g to that whole aspect you know down the line when I had senior 2021 where at least we probably have most places have 5g by 10 in the US then being able to play those games is just a matter of like picking up your phone and going I want to play Gears of War bad done okay let's do this you know and that's it's very interesting place now because as you've seen all these things come together where it's you know server stuff 5g mobile devices you know all coming to like one cohesive framework yeah I think I'm excited to try it out and even though I might not be the biggest believer in like cuz you know you want good quality and also not everybody has really good internet to begin with so it might not be easy for this streaming service to actually take off for most people that is check out project google also has the as well I tried I tried to sign up they never they never invited me in so I got Dave like I used three different Google accounts and I signed up nothing I was so why did you use the one for your YouTube account because that's what okay use all of them I have three different Gmail three three different gmail email addresses and I use all of them nothing sorry but I wanted that Assassin's Creed Odyssey anyway okay so we have one final story very very light one I hope everybody is enjoying the show so far as we kind of we like I said we brought down the number of stories because we wanted to make sure that we were actually going into discussions for each of these things a little bit more focus in terms of the things that we're talking about but now we're gonna get very unfocused we're about to get very distracted because the 59 new emojis coming out soon it's time to start not talking in English and only talking in tiny pictures that are on our phones are you an emoji guy at all I've got into emojis lately I mean you realize most people to realize I am NOT that young I may look like super fresh air but you realize when you have to communicate with do you know like my cousin's for instance or you know people if you're talking to people who are younger than you in my case and you know a lot of people text for me so it's the it's the urban dictionary or find out what or every abbreviation is oh yeah so I actually prefer emojis because they are just I know what it is like I know at least if you give me say 100 emojis I can automatically looking and understand 90% 95% immediately as opposed to somebody just giving me I R K or whatever you know children you Asian and I'm like I'm supposed to know that so I I'm cool with emojis but you know I think it's just a matter of time where we just have to find that balance of like how much is too much yes because that was really my my thought here was while I'm not going to be I too have only recently got into emojis and it's honestly only because of the person I'm dating that's really it like she uses him she uses him Lisa Rodriguez over at gadget Matt she uses emojis fairly often I got into using it more often and I don't even but I'm very careful with it I don't try to use I try not to use emojis in such a way that completely replaces my actual use of language like there are certain things I'll use it as a compliment to it so if I say like love you babe and then there's a kissy face but it's not just like gonna be emojis in one string there have to be words in everything that I said let me just say that but linked it's funny because people have these opinions when it comes to emojis people are excited about these emojis that are actually a couple of really funny articles I came out one of them is actually a gadget match to give Issa my girlfriend a shout-out here she put up an article saying that there are already a few do they're already a few emojis that girls are gonna use to shoot down guys it's pretty hilarious because one of these is called the pinching hand this thing is ridiculous picking hand it's basically like you going just a little bit but you can imagine what people are going to use that one oh yeah big yawn is funny mmm yeah that's pretty funny oh boy that that that emojis gonna take a lot of yeah there's gonna be so many on Tundras with that Rakhi grenade an hour an hour Chad just says if you don't receive emojis you're not special see how people use these kinds of things because you and I both like yes yes I'm a bit younger than you but like I still was in the era of the emoticon of the like : parenthesis you know like yeah yeah so those all the scroll down I just want to see all the these like people kneeling right yes there's that too is that prayer or yes I why I saw yeah I would say prayer but some probably say you know get on your knees or kneel before Zod or something so I thought meditation but okay but okay to the left of that there's also like a blind person walking I mean it's cool representation is definitely at an all-time high with these yeah I get that but can a blind person actually see the emoji to post it or even read the emoji yeah it's like what situation would that actually makes sense you know like when you're trying to describe somebody to a friend of yours that you know my friend is blind for example would you just say my friend is blind or would you actually just send that and that emoji to them and be like he's this like how there's a line of respect and disrespect when it comes to using emojis and obviously that's where some comedy comes from but like what is actually the what why why what's purpose I am I mean you know I like the prosthetics but you know it's cool that they have wheelchair and power wheelchairs like yo I upgraded there's also a chair just a brown chair its way to the right and then stethoscope okay fine I personally am a fan of the waffle but I think donut is way better than waffle and then there's a there's a butter emoji which I'm actually really happy about hashtag Kido one guess so many connotations already god I mean it's it's just so funny to me and then there's even one here that I don't even know what it is like is that a pearl oh that's a clam with a pearl okay never mind um there's a melting piece of ice like you know and it's just funny like it is that's what it means what does I say stop sweaty no you can't take the heat oh okay that's true so like emojis like the the digital it's digital slang which is fine do you have any emoji that you always go to though I guess don't wonder you always use oh uh I mean it's laughs out loud I laugh a lot so it's like you know that's pretty much it you know that's kinda crying one right alright yeah it's pretty much my might go to emoji and and then like facepalm because people do a lot of foolish things and well that's when the yawn emoji is gonna come in and then like just imagine the amount of shade on Twitter that people are gonna be able to give with this kind of stuff so we who makes emote like who's the Moche like is there like emoji organization that everybody is the Unicode organization okay yeah it's it's such a throwaway term because like you you use your computer you see the word Unicode you know like oh that's just what it's writing with but no it's an actual like conglomerate like or like association or organization or something yeah multinational lobbying group featuring tech companies and Bahrain and in some other countries as Jose is saying in our chat yeah probably the only one out of all of these new ones that I would use very often as a sloth because if someone's like hey did you get up yet and I just lost did you get any work done yep sloth it's like I'm just chilling right now killing sloth sloth chair all right so let us know what you think about all of these emojis using the hashtag p.m. weekly as well we have some people in the we have some we actually have people in our live chat right now having discussions about how young or how old other people are which is hilarious because this is really funny about oh really I just make this happen yeah I remember when I was four back in 2008 and I never use emojis even though I'm 14 my goodness yeah it's it's crazy how how our language our digital language has been evolving over the years but you know what it's on that note that we're gonna go ahead and call it on this one our theme music is bloom by Minerva courtesy of a royalty-free license with Argo Fox you can learn more about that in the episodes description from our crew you can follow them on Twitter our producer extraordinaire Jules Wong is at point jewels Brandon is that Brandon mini man and hi mate I will still say even though he wasn't here he's at Jaime underscore Nevada you can look forward to his daily tonight and also the daily recap tomorrow I am of course JV tech T you know me I'm JV I love tech and I love to drink me some tea as I have in this entire show Parker now is on pocket now at Twitter Facebook Instagram and YouTube in English and españa where you can find more news on the pocket mouth daily and 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