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okay quick thing before we get started about half an hour into this episode David Amell who is joining us on this episode his audio gets a little wonky he actually kind of sounds like Bon Jovi and it's is it's my life where he uses that voice modulator or something it sounds a little bit like that I did my best to minimize the damage that might come to your ears it's about a five minute stretch of this podcast but after that or aside from that everything is perfectly fine so hopefully you'll bear with me and also when you hear that no nothing's going on with your car stereo or your headphones or your phone or whatever you might be listening to us on it's not you it's definitely us my favorite phrase during that dinner for men abang wise no I get it you you you're totally right but it doesn't matter oh boy Thunder he shouts out to you bro okay hello everybody and welcome to the weekly brought to you by PocketNow a next day developers on this day it is May 17 2008 busy week it's been a busy honestly year there's been so many not only leaks rumors speculation but there have been so many announcements actually happening in this week we had one of the biggest ones it's going to be the crux of our episode this week when we react to the 1 plus 7 Pro which I believe everyone in this group we were all at the event and we all have our hands on the actual device actually let me go ahead and what I find funny about this is that now we can actually have these in frame whereas in the last two episodes of the podcast we don't have to like keep it out of frame okay yeah didn't talk about it yeah exactly it's physically in frame right now all right let me go ahead and start with David then oh no that's TK there you go let's start with David then David animal from Android Authority welcome back to the show brother hey been a while yeah um and like a yoi I like that painting behind you if you had relocated yourself to just one other portion of that apartment you would be in the same exact set that Cogan was it last week yeah exactly I dividend while you staying with our friend the unlocker who is probably working right now it is we work but yeah we were there just before this and then I came here to be cool to have quiet it's basically record well thank you for being on man how are things been for you the last time we saw you I think was actually during travel and since then you've been traveling everywhere this is usually this is a trope whenever David's on a podcast it's like where have you been well there's the tickety podcaster this podcast yeah I was in San Francisco for a little bit before this I went to Vancouver for Galaxy fold mm-hmm and then I went to San Francisco and I actually stayed in San Francisco for almost two weeks which was a big deal for me and then I came to New York and did one plus and then I've stayed the whole week but I did I'm working I picked my pixel 3a review finishing today and then that's gonna go out on Monday and then on Monday I get the zenfone 6 oh ok so we're definitely gonna be talking about that our pixel 3/8 reactions are kind of ongoing still because everyone is using it I I was recently asked like what is it man exactly I was recently asked what is your daily phone and I was like I it's it's weird to say but I keep coming back to this is it weird that I like this more than the pixel 3 itself no I think that's pretty universally yes I feel like because it's lighter and I actually love the feel of plastic phones I they actually feel great I don't I don't know it's a me it's awesome I do honestly wish people would give plastic more credit yeah yeah I just know this obsession with glass like it's gonna be important for 5g because those antennas basically bounce off of everything and they need the windows so it's important that phones are glass now but man it for 4G phones or like I think that for sub 6 gigahertz spectrum can actually go through plastic so if you make a phone that a sub sick sub 6 but not millimeter wave did I think plastic would be fine yeah look at that look at that 5g top coming from David already we had a few buddies were they all out in New York or somewhere she robot shake ah go yeah yeah yeah Chicago Minneapolis none of us Android blog friends got invited really it was like it was just all the traditional pubs yeah indeed ok so while I remember that I don't have any of my lights on in the background I'm gonna fix that right now TK Bay back once again you were yeah yeah I'm let me just say real quick to the both of you thank you so much for being aa social you t K was a super last-minute request for you to come on oh yeah anytime thank you so much and this time around like I was alluding to in the last episode you're back outside again I yep no this time I happen to be outside it's just a timing but yeah it's good day you know we have Sun here it's not writing but it is going to rain in a few days so it it's good I'm happy that it's a good weather I was actually really depressed when we came back from New York and it was raining yeah it was just when I saw hi Otto talking about it on Twitter the day everybody was leaving it suddenly became sunny in New York you know is there any you know it's funny is I got the opposite effect because it was sunny as heck in San Francisco for like the whole two weeks I was there I came here and it just became beautiful and then it's been thundering and storming in San Francisco the whole last week I have waited all the bad weather it's been great all right I loved it no New York was great yeah so we're gonna talk at length about the 1 plus 7 Pro not the 1 plus 7 all we got was the 1 plus 7 Pro in New York and then 1 plus 7 is a whole different thing and then there's a 5g version and then it's just it's kind of crazy how one Plus did this entire launch everyone in my review was like why didn't you talk about the fact that has 5g and that's like it this one does not know but will react to that in a little bit I do want to make sure we spend a little bit of time reacting to yet another phone that is trying to do something different we all pretty much agree that phones are getting interesting and fun again when we have things like that pop up happening yeah also the others yeah at the elbow Reno with its shark fin the shark fin one and now we have the zenfone 6 it's the 6 right yeah there's n phone 6 Oh suits kind of really quietly and a little bit surprisingly put out their announcement of a phone that also has a type of pop-up camera only right now you're probably seeing the b-roll as I put it in its the rear camera module that actually flips forward somehow it takes for me 8 megapixel selfies I was just about to say okay so since I don't want to see my pores I'm gonna need that beauty mode so how do you feel about this particular cuz the last time I saw something even remotely like this was the Oppo n1 and the n3 and he wasn't a mechanical back then I think it was with just a manual right you had that flip it many no wait with it one of the days yeah and one of them was yeah yeah yeah so some some takes from you guys like is this is this the next wave of our cameras on smartphones because I mean it is nice to be able to use the main cameras more than one breath and it does - it does take away the front-facing camera that is something that we've been talking about for a long time for naturalist phones I don't think it will last that long because I mean I saw a report the other day that Samsung is working on an under display camera and if Samsung's working on it you know that VEVO and Oppo probably have one ready that they will show us in like two months right after yeah exactly how about you to get has how does this pop-up look to you like a form factor that you're into yeah it's an it's an interesting form factor to say the least I think it it looks nice it may look good on video but in reality like if you have your phone sitting against I mean so my thing would first thing I'm thinking is cases right how our case is gonna be able to work on this one the mechanism opens up so that means that entire area has to stay open okay so it's nice to see I think built in the way the Reno does it the way the Oppo or you know the art they I think the re 11 Pro or even the what we have here with the one plus seven pro I think it's a better implementation I'm not I'm not sure I like the fact that we can use the main camera I just felt like it should have been a little bit like the older mechanism was a little bit easier to work with but even then there was no cases for the original Apple ones I think was it there the one from a long time at the end 7 I think yeah I think the there's nobody at the end one of the n3 are the ones I remember oh yeah yeah the cases for them basically just didn't have a top so yeah because it's gonna be and then just imagine if that mechanism ever breaks that's it you lost your front-facing camera you mentioned the open or 11 RR 11 Pro how did that one handle it again I I can't remember also to say if I'm not mistaken it's the same as the one plus seven oh it's just you had enough yeah I think it that's actually not a bad out option I mean if we you need it it's there if you don't you know the display is bigger and you obviously have the better cameras on the back and you know if you get the mirror grey which I realize that the the event after we're all getting our hands on this stuff that is actually literally a mirror it's meat very very reflective I just kept looking at the elephant honestly like that's the one that super hot yeah yeah that I loved last year how they did the was they called the oh man they had the other white one last year on the 1 plus 6 remember I think was man now I can't remember it but anyway it's it's nice to have these options I like their limited edition colors and they are always nice yeah so going back to the foreign factor changes when it comes to all of this like I I was always a huge proponent of the slider you know the length of me mix 3 I stole I still adore it it's my office phone so when I need to use it for like a teleprompter or for controlling my cameras that's someone I usually go for but also you have those you have this pop-up like I'm saying and then you have this flip over there is one little issue and that's a little for someone like me because I use these all the time you can't put a clip-on lens on that oh no no no that depth but all of that out you're wrong that annoys me because if the front-facing camera and this is this is alluding to a point that we'll make during our 1 plus 7 Pro discussion later but if the front-facing camera is not wide enough then your solutions are all bunk like it's just not going to work and that honestly depresses me a little bit because just speaking about this one in particular but most phones they don't have wide front facing cameras and not very few I think there's LG's one of the last ones is that or and even the pixel 3xl yeah it's really wide but even then the pixel 3a it's not all that bad but then again it doesn't matter it doesn't matter if this lens is wide because I can put a I can attach a lens to it so that's fine it's just all of these like crazy phones that are coming out that don't seem to be like they're not going to be able to take it so as a moment I'm not a moment ambassador but I am an advocate of the moment lenses hashtag sponsor moment the that the moment lens is once I found out how to use them as a clip-on lens like I try to use them on all my phones but all of these fun phones that are coming out right now it doesn't work so no kind of depressed about that it's that experimentation phase yeah exactly back to the Asus zenfone 6 seeing everybody talk about it obviously we're going to be talking about price when it comes to oneplus later $4.99 for this phone it has I try to remember what the eternal specs are but the one thing that I kept remembering that it has like you said David that 48 megapixel camera $4.99 855 six gigs of RAM and under 28 good storage like this is it's basically it's basically a one plus seven pro came out of nowhere right I mean it's hold up I think the best thing about this phone is the UI they like gave up on whatever the heck you I there is on you are which was anyway yeah so many it was so bad and they're they're doing like a stock plus thing ZTE did this a couple years ago they started using they literally call it stock plus and actually liked it a lot like I didn't think I would ever like a ZTE phone but it feels very stock Android and then they just added a few extra features like you know scrolling screenshots and like screen recording and stuff it's good it's good and I guess the Zeus is doing it I haven't actually got to touch the phone yet but I get it on Monday so no I want I need to figure out a way to try it out then again for $4.99 I don't think I could I would be against actually buying it the way that I did with the pixel 3a yeah how compelling is this price point to you guys how important yeah how compelling is this like because $4.99 I have a lot of people on Instagram and a lot of people on Twitter saying that this is the warm plus mentality that one Plus no longer has again alluding to our discussion later it's a mixed bag it's like I really need to try it and see the experience first because the one like 1 plus phones have this really really well-designed ubiquitous design experience that is like that goes through the entire ecosystem of the phone like they kind of 1 + s UI is kind of based around the old Google now that was like a thing in 2015 where they would you know they had a little material people that would run around and like they were cute and colorful and that's kind of one plusses thing and it populates throughout the entire UI whether it's the clock app or whether it's like they're new like time out Digital well-being thing like yeah and it's just it just makes experience feel relief like whole which i think is what you get you know iPhone and that's something that everyone like Apple has been like narrating or like just making better and better since they made the first iPhone yeah and if we'll have to see what Asus does to like make it feel like a whole experience rather than just like a thing that has Android on it you know do we know if this is coming to Western Shores I think it is look I think it's actually gonna be available on like bnh and Amazon oh okay fair that much I have to double check that though because like honestly it's it's not been on my radar that much and I only started looking at like looking at stuff about it because I was told I needed to review it fair enough so I buy you TK $4.99 Snapdragon a 55 for the a megapixel camera that you can use for your face as it looks like simply saying before that as long as they have that beauty mode setup 48 megapixels I mean Kent I know I've got yeah that is that is not the high quad so the hope essentially is that it actually does hold up the to what they're claiming obviously topknot specs are one thing but the only UI the experience the camera experience and as there you know hopefully we actually be able to see for actually you know pick up against this hasn't been doing that well in the US as far as like a main market so it's gonna be interesting when they come back and try to bring in this new camera module you know ecosystem I'm I'm hoping that you know it does come out and we'll see some kind of Android Q to it that'll also make it a little bit more compelling for people because you don't want to just get it and get stuck with that invert you know current version of Android that it just sits on so that's my main thing it's updated sustainability so hopefully but 499 is definitely interesting enough in federal yeah it is it is super interesting and it's almost like a return for a sous in general because man I remember back in the day when we would have like the zenfone 3 there's f-14 and there was like yeah eight different versions of it yeah the whole the whole point of the Zen phones in the past was just to be like hey we have the latest Snapdragon chipset and then a sous used to be the company that would always show people with they had the most RAM out of anyone yeah yeah one of the first articles I ever wrote for a blog was I think the zenfone 3 and the fact that I had four gigabytes of RAM and I remember being and it was like a shocking amount of RAM at the time like everyone was doing one or two gigs and I remember writing like oh my gosh this is insane like you're getting four gigs of RAM for it was like 399 or something it was it was pretty chit was still super cheap that's the thing today they're still going with the super cheap mentality and the high-end specs but now I feel like they're actually trying to appeal to a wider audience and realizing that their UI was crap so okay which is probably something that we should tell other companies sometimes like you know right now the right now the guiding force towards like really good and thoughtful Android design is oxygen OS it is one of the mainstays right now and of course you have like what we would call the the pixel launcher but it is the Google Android version on the pixel 3a and the pixel phones but yeah I'm personally I'm pretty excited about that about that phone I just wish that there was a little bit more fanfare about it like it was super quiet and you know it would have been great to see you soos actually try to like you know ruffle some feathers with this particular phone because it would have like the price alone ruffles feathers and people out there people are talking about it a lot right now all right cool so we're about we're about in a little bit we're about 20 minutes in already and I do have a mid role to do but I'm gonna go ahead and go to our break do that mid role and when we come back we're going to talk about what is in our pockets now it's a weird 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something different I have this recurring segment on the show now where I asked our guess what is in your pocket now so I can actually say that I have this one in my pocket so I do have the 1 plus 7 throw in my pocket and I actually still like using my may 20 Pro mmm may 20 promo and and I have something else but I can't really talk about which ask you real quick though what your phone serve those that you're using I think they're called a shark it was part of an IndieGoGo campaign that I got and it was just basically their stereo earphones with 7.1 surround sound oh and it has a detachable microphone so it's a gaming gaming microphone for the for your smartphone dang those look pretty cool and it sounds nice I get to think it's good that you're using that for the podcast yeah it sounds yeah yeah even though you're outside in sunny Pasadena right now yeah it is it is nicely but it's going to start raining in a couple days but yeah so may 20 promo 7 throw a lot of pros alright so David ml you have your hands on so many different phones at any given point what is in your pocket now also one plus seven Pro just because I love one plus phone so they haven't switched back to the six or 60 yet usually when I'm not reviewing something I either use the 6 or 16 I still think that the 1 plus 6 is the best smartphone that oneplus has ever made and I really really like it but I'm also using the pixel 3a because I'm finishing up my review today and it's going out next Monday and I really really like this phone too I we were talking about this before the podcast started but there's something about polycarbonate plastic then I think it's super underrated and I wish should make a comeback it's it's lighter it's it feels nice in your hand I draw okay the first day I had it I dropped it it's spun like 20 times and just clattered on the floor it's plastic it's not gonna shatter like come on shatter like yeah I can just do this and it doesn't matter like do you do that I do that anyway I'm not I'm not that careful I often review phones without cases because I'm like the manufacturer wants to make it stronger they'll make it stronger yeah exactly I saw a tweet earlier today I'm try remember who said it was it it might have been it might have been Flossie actually fluffy Carter where you said that he already broke his pixel 3a but no biggie just pick up another one because you can and I can't believe I'm saying that because you know I complained a little bit last week about how a lot of people were given the pixel 3a they were quote-unquote team pixels and I was not I'm trying to fear was an event here in New York two days ago in which everyone got three A's I didn't go to it I didn't get invited to it it was for I don't remember just gonna do this right now I am a LA over here so I think I think the reason I didn't get invited is because they only sent two invites out to people who lived in New York the new New Year which Google and Samsung they're usually pretty they're pretty guilty of doing that they did they want you to be as local as possible probably because if they want those devices back it's easy to get um perhaps assigned you at your house that's just a theory that's all I'm saying you know door there are quite a few of us in LA I'm just saying you know but anyway I guess we got to move up to San Francisco I see what you're saying at the Iowa I mean that's a whole different discussion but my pocket now I don't have it I actually I need to sort of unbox it and get it set up and I don't have it on my desk right now cuz I actually left it in the car but this morning I did have a bit of a meet with insta 360 and when I when I spoke to them a little bit and I told them that I have a few trips coming up including an upcoming trip to London the honor lunch is about to happen I told them like yeah it'll be great to be able to use something for vlogging and for testing purposes and now I have an integer 361 X to test out it also came with this like did you guys know that one insta 360 has this like bullet time mode do you know about this no no okay so it's obviously a 360 camera right so what you do is you put it at the end of a selfie stick and then they have this this like pistol grip that has a rotating top so what you do is you put the entirely you extend the entire selfie stick you screw it onto the the handle and then it rotates freely so what you do is you put it above your head and you just hit it and it goes around like this oh I've seen this yeah it's pretty cool and I can't believe it's an actual mode in the insta 360 camera so she the person that I met when she showed me an example of it when she was in Japan I'm about to be in Japan in about a month but she showed me one in the middle of a forest and it's just this really slow motion capture of like a bullet time thing and I was like wow that's sick so I'm pretty excited to actually try that try that out the thing I will say also just a delayed so this the thing that I want to be in my pocket now you guys saw that DJI announced I write oh yes you know the new action camera in the gadna days it's called the DG is the Osmo action Osmel action the Osmo action yeah that is one heck of a device it's it's great to see that all the reasonably priced reasonably priced yeah very reasonably priced it's gonna be like it might be the darling camera for a lot of budding vloggers no such as since that screen is upfront but yeah I definitely wanna get my hands on that too alright now speaking of what is in our hands right now it's time to start reacting to this thing right here the 1 plus 7 pro bro hot take from me to just real quick I do have a case on it I do love the nebula blue but I do have a puff socket on here I think this one's too big yes thank you okay you know okay I'll let you finish right I actually think it's the right size it's the form I mean it don't get me wrong it is six point six seven inches it's longer than most other phones but for me I mean I I've used the the made X the may 20 X yes it'll set Michel on here because he's as the may 20 X's in sailing right yeah who use it as a daily driver so that's that's a seven point two inch display and and that's even bigger than what we have and I actually it's it's really more fitting exactly depending on you watched a lot of content you hear you clean a lot of games the form factor is definitely there the stereo speakers are great and and I mean I'm still in that honeymoon phase I feel like I've had it for a couple of weeks now and I still AM in that honeymoon phase and I don't want to put this phone down it's that kind of moving away from just reviewing it - I actually want to just keep using this as my main driver so it's getting very close to my may 20 Pro just mostly from a comfort level of using it and I love just the overall real estate I just get so much more into it so I'm four four six point seven inch its I mean up not seven point two anymore but yeah how would you David it's too big that was kind of my first thing I even said in my review like if they'd and so I think that I think the trend was the one plus six was like six point two six and then the one plus seven the one plus sixty was like six point four six four six ago and then now the seven pro is six point six seven and so they keep upping the size of the screen by like point to zero inches and I think that what they should have done was if they were going to be able to remove the knotch I would have liked to see a phone that was the same size as maybe the one plus six or sixty but then just like get rid of the notch because then you basically have a bigger screen in a in the same form factor and I think the six and sixty both feel like good sizes at least in my hand and I do have average-sized hands for a male I don't have small hands call back I was saying last week that I have my hands so I'm triggered because my first video ever on a a was why I felt why I didn't like the galaxy s 8 plus and one of the reasons was that at the time it felt very big when all of the YouTube comments were like you have small hands you must have little tiny baby hands yeah it just feels large and I really really would have liked that they kept the form-factor smaller because honestly if you reduce the bezel it's basically a bigger phone so oh it's oh yeah no no definitely they could have still claimed a bigger display all of the new things I think for me I appreciate having the bigger battery the bigger display and then being able to fit all of that into the it's a nice it's I mean really it if it's well balanced as far as just usability it doesn't just tilt over so it's not heavy or bottom heavy or top-heavy so for me it's the weight distribution is not bad and you know if you have the right case on it that gets rid of the whole slipperiness of the the back just you know cuz I know yeah so I'm using the yet well I'm not even there I'm like puff socket all the way guys like it's gonna fall out of my hands if I try to maneuver around it with one hand I even tried texting ah no anger gymnastics yeah and dramatic and it'll get me wrong I'm good at hand room tasks but the moment you use I I'm always going to be an advocate if the moment you use a puff socket like everything changes like it's just that much more convenient it's not slippery hmm polycarbonate where to bring it back easier to grip to begin with which i think is that my main takeaway is that like the using a smaller phone along with the bigger phone like there's an obvious skew in my usage like there's one that i have't eight towards because of usability alright so nebula blue for all of us obviously any thoughts on the colors you were mentioning earlier we did mention earlier that there's a mirror gray we do like the almond as well that's not coming in till june right is that what they said yeah yeah I think that's the announcement and it is the same thing Oh pearl white that's what it was last year I forgot the name so last year was the six they had the pearl white yeah well that was gorgeous yeah that was ice now man I did the moment that came out I ordered that one right away okay had was and I ordered six had awesome colors and it wasn't even the fact they were just colors it was the fact that they all had different textures the pearl white was like it felt like baby powder was applied to the phone it felt so like grippy and kind of just soft it was awesome but they said that the difference though is that in the almond the almond actually is more of like an iPhone 10s type back where it's like more glass glass where this is like frosted glass Oh interests exactly yeah yeah I know that that there's a different texture going on but uh it looks like the gold iPhone 10s basically all right so daily usage obviously performance they're all about that speed thing was it called speed you need speed you need and so any thoughts from from you guys about like just a performance aspect because it seems like as far as flagship quality is concerned and as far as the whole never settle mentality is concerned it seems like it's about the daily usage oxygen OS performance 855 12 gigs of RAM for crying out loud I know what is your daily experience been like so far you know something that oneplus does that I think people don't really take into account is that they're they like don't use animations for a lot of stuff and it actually makes the phone feel faster a lot a big tip that I remember people talk about I was like dude just turn off the animations for things you have phones benefit less is fast and one place actually doesn't have animations a lot of stuff so like Xinbo on the s10 when you unlock the display with the instinct in the bolita there's like yeah it didn't feel like I was like downgrading in the screen speed so like and the fact that this is a whole nother thing I know I want to be able to talk to them pop over there all right go for it any thoughts so like 90 Hertz I personally love it I think it's a great I think it's great I do it I do admit that it seems most noticeable in oxygen OS yeah so because apps apps appear at space specifically support 90 Hertz you're only actually going to get the 90 hurts when you're like it's the same thing that we had with the razor phone to it you'd notice it when you turn on and developer options the root they had the FBS showing on the display most of the time we hit 120 whenever we were in the UI flipping between you know on on on our launchers and so on so I mean for me like they've said it David I said it's it's really more it's a smaller upgrade right we're normally set at 60 if we go up to 90 it's a small up here but when you go from 60 to 120 it's a bigger noticeable change you can see it a little bit easier and really most games right now we're not even using the 90 Hertz we don't have any even not even port Knights even compatible at 60 frames or even stuck at 30 frames per second there so there's a limitation of what we can do no I know it I mean the honor of u-20 came out and even at launch had 60 frames per second support right out of the box so those are things like you know they're thinking about it and they're trying to push this with a new fanatic mode as a gaming phone you know the battery life the and there's just there's little things and it with RAM boosts that they put into the settings in there as well so they're they're wanting us to use it more but their optimizations were done mostly internal now we need to wait for developers and companies actually you know adhere to their new standard or at least bump them up to something close because we want to be able to not specifically we just hope that they will do it eventually I feel like it's less of a focus for oneplus and more for like Xiaomi and black shark and obvious you know obviously the actual gaming brands are gonna want to be in that but I guess oneplus is just trying to support gamers rather than actually sponsoring them or actually like really focusing on that but the fanatic mode I love it like the fanatic mode is just a great idea and I've been doing so much work with gaming phones recently that different things like the shark space or the game space on the red magic Mars I believe yeah the market yeah those are those are great ideas that oneplus just proved you can do without needing a toggle or a completely different side it just needs to detect that you're playing a game and then it'll give you options that you need obviously controllers and inputs are a whole different story oneplus is not really into that but at least as smart as a performance standpoint is concerned they're doing a great job of supporting gamers that's that's great I think that's the screen recording for a long time it's and they're gonna have it in Android q natively but the fact that oneplus was like you know what these people need it now I really appreciate that because I used it today and their implementation of screen recording is actually great it's better than Huawei is for sure yeah oh very very smooth and works perfectly especially if you're narrating all the options that you get it's just it's amazing and then you can edit your video right into your gallery and just write it there you can post it straight to social media that's fantastic I love it yeah it's actually like I said in my part one of my review of the phone this this is probably the most gamer centric phone if you think about it from a content creation standpoint because I actually have a gaming channel and you could open up an Android video game hit record and then just have like an external microphone in order to like do some commentary and there you go you have gaming content for a YouTube channel and it's like this phone supports that and that's one of the reasons why I'm happy to have it in my pocket because it's the one that supports that I did however find out I think Android Q is supposed to have it built in now right because in the Q beta I think I found it does it does yeah it's a Q beta 3 has it in Q beta 2 is technically in there the but it was like broken and laggy 3 it's in there a lot better I think it's like actually pretty much per million yeah and even then like the screen recorder it says game launcher right here so they are it is very specific to that use case here's another question though because Q launched on 12 brands at i/o as a beta and I'm wondering if one plot because the this phone actually officially launches today at the day of recording today mm-hmm which is Friday the 17th and I wonder if they're going to push Q beta for this starting today because they pushed it yeah it was available for 16 6 + 5 t + 5 + 3 T that's another thing is like the soft the software support that oneplus puts out is freaking amazing but yeah I would like to get Q on this as soon as possible basically is what I'm saying yeah definitely alright so I'm trying to think of avoid other aspects of the phone alright so let's go ahead and just get into the cameras then because well even talk about battery life Oh better really I was like that's my main concern okay go for it alright so there was we did some testing and if you turn off it okay so a lot of the comments that I got on my youtube video and in my written review my battery life was not great I got like five to five and a half hours of screen on time so anxious I know I know I know screen on time is whatever people hate it Fisher gives me a lot of crap for it but the 60 I got like seven to eight hours okay and for me fundamentally I would prefer a phone that lasted all day and I like the fact that phones can charge fast now like Huawei has best of both worlds because not only does the p30 pro last literally two days but also charges in like 45 minutes anyway if you turn this to sixty Hertz you get about an extra hour you get an extra two hours those free no time if you turn it to 1080p you get an extra hour so if you were to downscale this to 1080p and 60 Hertz the battery life is actually good it's like pretty good but the problem is like and that's what everyone in my comment section was saying because I said this has bad this has pretty bad battery life in comparison to other flagships out right now and I I really really appreciate good battery life on an Android smartphone so and everyone was saying well just like Twitter to 1080p and make it 60 Hertz it's like you so you want me to remove like the main reasons why people are gonna buy this phone like oneplus is biggest marketing but the most money that they spend around marketing the most time that they spent at the event was the 90 Hertz display yeah real quick though I want to make sure we catch TK before his battery is battery's gonna die yeah sorry dude and I'm gonna take up all the time oh it does seem like you can't hear TK can you know did he die yeah something died it wasn't something no no no no battery than that yeah sorry oh yeah I had the microphone on you so the quick 30 second clip on my impression so you're totally right on the battery exactly if you if you do reduce the battery well the screen resolution as well as no no there we go there we go poor guy okay what I'm gonna do let me see if I can message him real quick type type it to me yeah I'll be his voice type it to me and I'll read it yeah I'll just continue talking then until he no I do want it I do definitely want to get into the some thoughts on there like okay so you said around 5 hours of screen on oh there you go he's on no so so this is where the experience changes oh so now I'm on my phone that's the only way for me to get back on but what I want to say is that battery life on this is actually not bad it's just the only thing you have to keep in mind is you are pushing it into new technology and then think of oxygen OS isn't really a hundred percent optimized to handle the battery being basically consumed that where we have it at 90 Hertz and you know what HD so hopefully other updates or future updates will help us with it but where we are right now like David said 1080p unfortunately at 60 Hertz gets you the best battery life but you have the ability of controlling it right you have to turning it on and turning off when you don't want and I think the way that we was raised from to did it was a little bit better in their gaming mode because he had the ability of customizing when 20 Hertz was kicking in and when you weren't using it to be able to save battery so hopefully there's something they can add into their gaming mode and that will help people basically enjoy the quality very much better or the lightfrom obviously for those you know it's 7 to 8 hours of battery life mmm gotcha let me see what are some other things I want to get ok so since you're on here right now I don't I don't wanna take up too much of your time and also you're probably your arms gonna get tired holding that phone you do quick thoughts on the camera before we get into it for a more long form discussion so for the camera experience I'm gonna say it's a better camera than what we've had in the past is it the best camera right now they just pushed out an update like this yesterday morning actually they start another update to optimize the camera so I haven't had a chance to play around with that yet but the camera is ok it just it's not the best camera I would say the front-facing camera is actually pretty decent yeah and that's that's one thing that I like is the fact that I can actually just open it up and take a good selfie especially when I with my family with friends you know when I saw you guys over at the event you know Josh night we took a picture with it it works really nice that's such a common comment that I keep saying these days it's like yeah but you came on there and I'm like I I personally never do that I maybe I should but it makes everything better that's all I could say if you can get it yeah it definitely makes it better but if you're just using the native app and what they have I think their scene detection is a little bit hit miss it turns on every once in a while but you don't see it all the time and it doesn't really optimize the software yet so like I said this is the first time they've gone three lenses it's a good start it's a solid camera from the sensor that you can do good pictures with it you just need to maybe do some editing a little bit afterwards for me it's great it's a good phone it's a good complement good set of lenses they went with the right set you know we want the wide-angle lens we want the the you know the 48 megapixel one I just you need to improve a little bit on the software I think they can definitely get there all right cool all right okay well thank you so much for for being on I'll go and let you go that way you don't have to like worry about being on the phone the entire time well yeah thanks for finding a way to pop back in and we'll see you in a little bit from I'll see you guys nice seeing you day yeah say you need to write alright so unfortunately for TK when he got onto the phone his feed wasn't working anymore I guess NDI off of a mobile phone is not the most ideal thing so it's okay there's like a big old Skype logo where his face should be but I will make sure to give TK his shoutouts when the time comes but here is here's what I want to start off the last like maybe 5-10 minutes of this I did a real-world camera test with the 1 + 7 Pro out in New York City centered around the launch but I also went to the vessel which is in New York City which is pretty dope it's it's a pretty awesome structure it looks a little bit like a supervillains lair but what I what I kind of when I came to the conclusion and I'm wondering if and TK kind of alluded to this I wonder how you feel about this David this phone is saved by the grace of that 48 megapixel sensor because it's the only part of the camera experience that I feel is actually quite good the rest is not doing it at all I kind of disagree I actually really like this camera and I feel this I felt the same way about the 60 and most of that for me has to do with one color reproduction and two sharpness okay um I think that while the p30 camera is freaking insane and amazing it also over sharpens the heck out of everything and the colors not quite right the Samsung the Samsung has ten does HDR way too aggressively and it make it washes everything out I think that one plus does a really nice in-between of still obviously having some good dynamic range but it's not so aggressive that every single color looks like it's luminance was boosted by two stops and then also the sharpness feels very similar to the Xiaomi me eight for me which was my favorite smartphone camera of last year because it's it they didn't try too hard to like aggressively sharpen everything I feel like a lot of manufacturers I was actually talking to Brandon have art about this before the event a lot of manufacturers they make their cameras based on what engineers think people like they don't actually make it based on what looks good in photography and I think that people have this notion that Oh sharper is better right but that's not always the case it's all it's like almost with also with cinema cameras cinema cameras are intentionally soft and they actually look more pleasing to the human eye so for me I feel like oneplus kind of took this new IMX sensor this new 48 megapixel which I agree is better it helps it a lot yeah but I feel like they took it and they were like you know what let's just kind of take it as it is and then add a little bit of processing but not overdo it which which I agree with you on there's a lot there's a lot philosophically that you're saying that I totally am on the same page with the problem that I have with this is that it's more to the credit of the sensor than it is to the company's own processing absolutely yeah because I do you give them because when you look at it you have the 48 megapixel sensor that already is an amazing thing like yeah a stabilization on that lens is so amazing I could get slider like shots with this 48 megapixel and it's true not only for this phone but also for the honor of you 20 and for the mimics no not to me makes that me 9 these are the other two phones that have it but the thing is when you when you look at it this way where it's the 40 megapixel sensor doing a wonderful job and then what deep and then what happens when oneplus is given a couple of other sensors to tweak how they see fit okay so I know I know I know why it is so why this oh I can't believe it like it's the first wide-angle lens that I'm actually super disappointed by and the telephoto is like even though it's telephoto it's still like 3 X 7 this phone teaches me that 3x is actually pretty good like 2 X was always useless to me 5 is a little too far 3 is kind of the sweet spot however to your point about softness and the sharp and everything like that yeah you're right if it's over sharp pins from the 48 megapixel sensor we probably wouldn't feel so good about it but then you have the wide angle and the telephoto which are like four octaves softer than anything that the 48 megapixel sensor does like to me there yeah there's no sharpness at all in the other two lenses and the same goes for the front-facing camera there's no sharpness at all on the front-facing camera it's also very tight frame which you know I'm not a fan of I really like the front-facing camera I think it's really nice that's okay but it's it's it's it doesn't it doesn't excite me whatsoever so you want to have to have the phone like so far away to actually get something done because as you know I've vlog with smart phones this is not doing it for me right here yeah so that's the only thing I I wreck I I definitely find this phone easy to recommend to a lot of people but the cameras it's not that it's not that they fail at providing a good camera it's that everything that they claim the cameras can do they don't seem to live up to their own potential yeah so I think yeah I think the spec sheets great I think the specs are awesome three different camera 60 megapixels for the wide and the telephoto those are all good specs it's just that they're not realized and yeah and I and also no wide-angle for the video I mean what are you what are you doing yeah yeah it's yeah that's pretty ridiculous I really really enjoy the versatility though I think because I I talked so in my 60 review I called that review fundamentally great and that's because I analyzed like what makes a phone good in my opinion it's performance UI and battery life are the three things that I personally really care about in a smartphone and I feel like one person grieves honestly what but they didn't well they do except for the battery life and this is not good and that's why I didn't like it quite as much no flight but after what are the two phones I reviewed but right before this phone I read the s10 and I reviewed the p30 and one of those both of those phones have three cameras and even though I'm not someone who I don't post any photos I take on my smartphone camera so I don't really care but after using those two phones and just having that insane versatility of a wide irregular in the telephoto I feel like I can't if I'm gonna buy a flagship smartphone now it has to have that so I think that that was really smart of oneplus to follow the trend and like add those and they'll make them better like you said the the white is really bad and they were obviously just trying to throw it in because they wanted to they wanted people to be able to pick this over the s10 to make it an option that wasn't just like well the SN has more versatility and they'll make it better so but what I meant to say was that after using those phones it felt like a fundamental for me now and so I'm just really happy that they they have it yeah I'm glad it's there I just wish it was better I guess is the best way for me to put it I think that they'll push software updates that make it better yeah I mostly they do that all the time yeah yeah so where do you where do you land on the obviously the version of the phone that we have is really more expensive I think it's the 70 in doubt yeah that the fully expect that one yeah yeah it's $7.99 okay 669 however for six gigs and 128 how do you feel about the price on here when we have a lot of commenters and tweets coming out saying like I missed the old one plus why isn't it cheaper you know like that kind of thing you know at the very end of my review I said when oneplus with with the 60 in the six actually just with oneplus in general before to me that could like any phone that company made was basically a no-brainer because it had the latest specs the best UI good battery life and it was half the price of everyone else right mm-hm now it's $120 more and but it doesn't have the things that you're paying about three hundred dollars more for so it doesn't have official IP resistance it doesn't have wireless charging and the battery life isn't as good as the s10 or the p30 so for me it's not a no-brainer anymore it's an option it's a good option that kind of slots in but the pixel 3a and something like the s10 or the p30 yeah I think I agree with that so then the the question there is had this phone not existed do you think that your opinion would be different because there was a huge discussion that I had with Fisher and a bong or Thunder he rather David Koga and a bunch of people we were all having dinner and Fisher's whole point which I think everyone kind of agreed with but didn't want to accept was that this changed everything it actually did and I I had this call with Eber shoutout to Eber from hardware Cano just check out their channel I had a phone call with him a few days before I did my before I actually filmed my oneplus review because I like to get other people's opinions and feel a feel it out and what we both said was that like the pixel three existing makes you realize like how good of an experience you can get in such a cheap phone and it makes the one plus it also makes the oneplus feel overpriced which is crazy because never before have one plus phones ever felt overpriced agree and so the crazy thing for me this is a little tangent about the pixel 3a and how awesome it is Google Google stripped away the the extras that only some people will care about but they kept everything that is core to the pixel experience and that's why this doesn't feel like a mid-range phone it feels like a pixel phone mm-hmm and it doesn't not feel like a pixel phone just because it doesn't have wireless charging or water resistance right it feels like a pixel phone and you still get the experience is what matters at the end of the day honestly like that's what people care about and the pixel experience is one of the best Android experiences because its first party Android and if you can get that for 400 kind of 300 cuz like every single place you buy it at it has like $100 giftcard I'm still figuring out what to use my best buy card on your right right if you buy it at Google store you get a hundred all gift card if you vitamin H you get $100 gift cards so it's like effect 300 bucks which is its soul you're getting a premium experience in a body that people don't most people are not going to care that this is polycarbonate most people are not going to care that this has doesn't have wireless charging and because they were able to take out the things that people didn't necessarily care about and keep all the things that made a pixel of pixel that's what makes this phone amazing and so yeah this existing basically is put in one plus it makes us think a little differently about about oneplus you know yeah I think I think it really does also I don't know what happened my camera is dead yeah your video died just do my beautiful face for the rest so you have a blank space a Skype logo and David well I think that's a perfect way to end it actually because we did hit our hour mark so quick shout out to TK BAE I want to give him a shout out to his his handles and whatnot make sure you get into the show descriptions and whatnot but TK has found at TK DSL oh my goodness um I had it in my head to give me a second TK BAE is found at TK DSL eight six five five on Twitter and on Instagram so make sure you follow him we're actually gonna be seeing each other you going to the owner lunch right no no you are not dating because we have people in London and I have to review zenfone next week and also I would have no time to do that okay well it's a it's a quick turnaround it's like two nights or something like that so I mean it's okay but in any case oh you were going okay so shot sob again - TK thank you so much for being on I think started like getting on the phone and giving your thoughts on the wall plus over bro I already gave his handles David you are at going until everybody were to find you at Durban ml on Twitter the you are VI di mal or Instagram I met David ml just my name or if you want to find all my social links and also my videos and work you can go to David ml calm because I'm trying to keep my website up to date all the videos with all the videos I do and have links to all my review so God just go to me.com then you'll find it out of the three of us I mean I just mentioned London but you are gonna be able to enjoy Computex soon yeah are you no no I tried so hard but it's just not not meant to be right now but yeah hopefully we'll be able to see each other fairly soon I am of course @j VTEC t you know me I am JV you can't even see my hand gesture right now I am JV I love me some tech and I love to drink me some tea I'm gonna go ahead and do the outro after the fact after I replace the battery on this so why don't we go ahead and get into the outro right alright and on that note that is it for 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