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it's the show that kicks off the fall season in consumer electronics and it's one close to my heart Aoife the IFA or the international funk ausstellung aka the berlin radio show is coming up next week and we're here to talk about everything from the new samsung galaxy note 3 to the sony honami to the LG G pad if these sound like gadgets you want to know more about your listening to the right show specifically episode 05 9 of the pocket now weekly the once-a-week podcast from pocket now where we discuss smartphones tablets and the state of mobile technology in 2013 I'm your host Michael Fisher editorial director at pocket now and today I'm joined by the man with many miles under his belt pocket mouse championship race runner and multimedia manager Jaime Rivera good day to you championship race runner someday haha thanks really how's that really you don't roll your R's enough Michael you know I know it's true i'm speaking of which better we're also joined by the dude who I hate like peanut butter hates jelly senior editor Taylor Martin good afternoon to you I guess what up jelly oh you get to be peanut butter huh yeah that's the others so if you didn't get the reference Jaime Rivera runs a lot and he always makes sure we know about it on his Instagram photos you should follow him how many would it what are you on instagram underscore either I mean no justjust haineko at all stuck to commuter were able to i was able to find that one honestly do you need an accent over the r g is it will it recognize it without the accent it will recognize that even even on the moto x even on the moto x to my best phone ever fr he's one of pocket now excuse me I'm is one of pocket knives team members one of the many team members rapidly losing weight Taylor's losing some I guess Taylor went to go went to go I'm not gonna forget it forget it we'll talk about it later well we were talking about something before you came on the air but I haven't made a joke though yeah don't worry about a different losing weight but temporary Lori luck I'm sure you lost about three pounds right now before we started recording the point is it's funny I was talking to Brandon earlier because I'm going to be covering Aoife in Berlin with Anton denote possibly the the biggest weight loss champion on the team right now and I was joking with Brendan minimum earlier in the day that I'm when we go to e4 this year this time I'm going to be the fat one because I haven't lost anyway so i was about to say you're gaining weight in your reigning hair wait hold up am i gaining weight I never said it was gaining weight I said the wrist you guys are losing i don't i'm not big because Vera all right well screw both you guys it's all that Dunkin Donuts coffee man i was about to say you need to start following the active in that galaxy s4 active start using it for that wow wow wow come on my own podcast to get roasted thanks thanks to ya when your knees are occurring when I've been there yeah your move been there way just like I'm not a fat guy whoa so you're saying I was no where are you I don't know I don't know these things I only see you want the internet more than once in my life yeah but it doesn't matter it doesn't because even if you even if you are it doesn't matter that's fine that's right we don't know even if you are we love you like a flat City that's exactly right yeah I have no idea how to get out of this anyway why don't we talk about technology how's that ok let me think knology that'll make you slimmer that no I'd know cuz that's boring technology what about a very slim android phone oh that's very nice like that I like it but you know what before we do that I'm gonna crush your segway and I was about to say wow Taylor is that a segway no right he was he was learning but then I just smacked him down we need to just your learnings no listeners that we are not stopping everything or Aoife there's stuff coming out even as we speak we have received in the office some devices in the past couple days Taylor Martin is going to be getting a droid ultra I think tomorrow is that correct that is correct yes motorola droid ultra does a verizon unit obviously and i have a feeling that Taylor is going to be able to milk that for for quite a bit we're going to have a maybe a comparison between that and the ex-im if my psychic powers are working correctly we have about 40 videos on schedule for the droid ultra yeah okay that's a lot that's a lot but no but it's probably of confidence well that's good that's coming up there's I just posted a video with the ax t vest neo compared to the a texty and since you probably don't care about that there's a review coming up on the t VES neo and since you probably don't care about that there is also a huawei ascend p6 in my are you but are you burning windows phone is that what I'm here I'm learning right now that's the problem no exactly that's the problem right no I'm the leading Windows Phone cheerleader right behind Adam Lane on the team and Adam doubt but even given that these devices are not my favorite things to carry on I'm very much looking forward to getting rid of these mid-range phones masquerading as high-end devices at least the price is right yeah fifty bucks on contract for the achieve an S yeah rent and 0 for the 8xt on country but I never judge Windows Phone by the price tag I'm and the Lumia 920 was a hundred dollars after two-year contract and that was not a hundred dollars phone no absolutely absolutely you're right but you know what the funny thing was that these phones came out on sprint by the way listeners if you don't not familiar with sprint these are the first two windows phone 8 devices ever to launch on sprint they are very late to re-enter the party for various reasons but they launched at at I think a hundred bucks and fifty or one hundred and fifty and a hundred or something like that and within like a week they were discounted by I mean the prices were just slashed on him so I I don't know what that says about back-to-school promos I don't know what it says about the perceived worth of the devices but you should not not everybody wants a purple phone man it's not purple it's California blue it's like it's like shea stadium was bro it's a good little error speaking of price cuts though that uh that nexus 4 I know I'm a little off topic here but yeah what's it i didn't i didn't realize it until this morning but they dropped the price to 199 and yet 250 for the uh yeah 16 gigabyte model 250 for a no-contract nexus 4 that is in sad is crazy that's cheaper than the look like out i want to buy two of them just just in case something ever happens to one of the runs I'm using you know it's funny cuz the nexus 4 was what i was going to invest in before i got the Moto X the customized Moto X and i will say since we're on this brief jaunt into android that I'm no longer regretting my white face plate choice on the Moto X I've discovered that it's the perfect summertime phone you take my phone out in the sunlight and it looks great well son summer times about to end son you know you know I Taylor there's a reason you don't work you don't work at buzzkill international alright which it's okay to be happy here on the pocket and weekly it's okay speaking of buzz killington um galaxy gear sorry I'm just practicing segues and it's good good for you know we have to jump into Aoife stuff we're trying to keep this light with mon kill a Segway man making pale it haha no cuz it's a good one we have to jump a diva and but we're not going to talk about galaxy gear so eat it the first we are gonna do that later the first thing we're talking about is the galaxy note 3 now this is a mainstay of Aoife ooh the galaxy note now correct me if I'm wrong gentlemen the galaxy note the first edition one was announced at Aoife two years ago correct yes yes yes and then the second one was last last year and so I was there for that with Tony and Aoife the reason it's close to my heart this show is because it's the first trade show I ever covered and so it's you know I've special memories from the event even though a lot of things went wrong but the galaxy note 2 was announced then and I that is when I fell in love with the phablet category I didn't take the first galaxy note seriously I thought it was hilarious and then it became somewhat successful and I sort of took it somewhat seriously intellectually but it wasn't until the galaxy note 2 came out that I really embraced the phone and then I got one and it has been my it has been a consistent source of my what do you call that when you bounce back to a previous lover besides you know a predictable human behavior can I say that can I say that I'll go yeah we bout thank you it's been my consistent rebound phone sentence and so yeah about every three weeks I'll pop my son back my galaxy note I'm like yeah I remember the s-pen this is fun the big screen big battery so anyway it is also my show phone so i'll be taking the galaxy note 2 over there to see the galaxy note 3 until you have a go to note 2 as well i do have the the international version oh I have the t-mobile version wait you have a galaxy note 2 down there as well yeah all three of us the air have Galaxy Note 2's that's pretty cool hi mate I'll trade you of course this go ahead make the point that samsung also sort of flooded the market with these things I think they're this was the most plentiful review unit I'd ever seen where I reviewed it three times we yeah we had our mouths like we're halfway through a sentence is like a samsung do you have any galaxy note 2 and they were like yeah we got eight you want you here take take take 16 so okay i left the US launch party with two and then they sent me another one in the mail of two or three weeks later yeah yeah sorry crazy right isn't it nuts inside sometimes review units are really hard to get hold of and sometimes there's just a dump truck that shows up and yeah they were like don't let anybody see the second unit and they stuffed it in my book bag and I walked out with it no but but they did the right thing I mean I think all of us love the galaxy note 2 I mean it took me it took me a while to convince brandon and give me his because that the 1i have is actually his room everybody gave it to me at sea at CES in vegas yeah yeah yeah and I you know he was that he was like are you really gonna use this phone I'm like it give it a try and I haven't stopped using it it's probably one of my favorite phones so we've spoken about the virtues of the galaxy note 2 before we've been over this territory before that what is coming in the note 3 we've heard a lot of rumors but an audible venture to say that not a lot of the rumors that are believable are not hugely exciting but I don't mean to say that as though I'm surprised this seems to be Samsung's year of incremental upgrades right yeah that's every year well not really because of the three the galaxy s3 okay there's three with my argument that that was a big step up right yeah but it we've sought at the beginning this year in Barcelona when they unveiled the note 8 which was a new category you know it was bringing the note line to a new form factor excuse me a new sighs you know segment and even then it wasn't mind-blowing we're about to do an after the buzz on the note 8 this week and I enjoy the product but even when Anton and I were looking at it in Barcelona I was like it's kind of just like a really blown up galaxy s3 isn't it with a wit with an estimate or like a really shrunk it down galaxy note 2 more precisely and that seems to be holding true and all the rumors we're seeing here it looks like a slightly expanded galaxy note 2 rumors say what is this a five point six eight inch screen versus the existing 5.5 inch yeah it's kind of all over the place because we've heard six point three five point nine five point seven five point eight we've right so many we've heard so many sizes you know Fred first we heard 6.3 and 5.8 and then the galaxy mega came out I know that's why they have all those panels ok yeah comment on that you know the problem with the note 2 is that you know I I've never heard I've never been in a scenario where we've seen so many conflicting rumors we've got some leaked photographs of a square display like five weeks four weeks ago and now yesterday we got leaks of the panel which just looks like a blown-up galaxy s4 you know that's right so it's gonna be in this upset yeah and then we were hearing optical image stabilization and then apparently samsung had to kill it because other cameras yeah their vendors not ready on the camera and now as of yesterday we're hearing that the cameras gonna be capable of 4k video which is you know guys I still find this funny I'm not gonna be able to afford a 4k TV for the like the next five years why you know it's cool to have the capability I just wonder where am I gonna watch it you know that's very true but now is this something i have a question is this something where like we talked about with 1080p screens like when 1080p displays on smartphones were rumored we were like this is ridiculous we can't see pixels on 720 why do we need 1080 and then the droid DNA came out and we were all like oh now you can see that can't you you know is this gonna be something like that where it's like ease no it's it's 10 it was cuz it's 4 x 1080 p i mean come on what's the point about recording something in for cave the video size is gonna be so big you're not gonna be able to keep it well there's that and and who has a 4k television he's going to have one for the next you guys down five years I've got like 12 you can have one of mine I mean it's it's a feature that it I think for now for now it's gonna be like the HTC was it evo 3d yeah like who really cares about having 3d video if it knew cares about having take care of that if it's cool if it's done right but nobody's done it right so nobody nobody's on 1080p video right yeah nobody nobody's done it right and listen it's not like if we're complaining about progress there's nothing wrong with that working video it's just one of those things that I wish wouldn't have been yet and they would have focused their guns on something else like optical image stabilization which doesn't prove low-light performance on it yeah optical image stabilization is like the new thing it's gonna be the thing and in six months you're gonna really need to have it it's gonna be on most smartphones right now you really need to have it on a new product for us to take the camera seriously I feel like and yeah that was quick i mean that that just started happening you know with the Lumia 920 right yeah so yeah in under a year it's become basically a standard and my problem with 4k is that basically if somebody uses that in a camera on a phone they're doing it mainly for the selling feature the spec list saying this can shoot 4k right nobody cares that they can't utilize it or that it looks like crap its 4k it's like I've got like quad-core processors a year ago yeah just tell me how many camcorders you know like affordable camcorders in the market right now can shoot 4k yeah again I really matters like a system of measurement nice and I don't mind I don't mind that we get if we get a 4k display on the phone because let's just say that the next thing next year will be 4k displays on phones I don't know what the point is gonna be but at least you don't need something else to enjoy the display meaning you'll have a 4k display you're gonna be able to see it right there and enjoy it right there whatever it's gonna do it's gonna do it fine but what's the point about 4k video if you can't enjoy it yeah yeah there's a solid point I still have a camcorder as a unit of resolution measurement that you know I guess the only reason was lots of resolution on that camera 14 camcorders I guess the only reason why I would like 4k is like if they would figure out a way to do like what you can do with the Lumia 1020 you take a photograph and then use crop in its Robin and in pixel double if they can figure out a way to do that meaning i could shoot a video right now and then crop into a portion of the video and have that be 1080p and have that not be pixelated and i would enjoy it but I don't think they're gonna be able to do that with that sensor with a sense for that big I don't think they're gonna figure that one out at least not yet no but you can do that with the 1020 you you can zoom in and you're still recording a 1080p correct no you're you're actually your cropping into the video you're making it smaller I believe I don't know what in video mode i'm not sure i'd answer that but i don't know i want to get away from the camera for it for a second because we don't we just don't know enough about the camera here well okay good to answer your question taylor before we prefer begin yeah you're not losing 1080p but your your pixel your pixels are becoming bigger the more you zoom in so it's not really 1080p the final format of the video is 1080p but the real pixels were taking up like four five six eight depending on how many how much you zoom into a clip so it's not really zooming alright so we've established a little bit about the display one thing we should touch on is that I feel like four months and months and months the galaxy note 3 has been associated with this rumors of a flexible display which we should probably should probably say even if it is included doesn't mean a flexible phone primarily that is a that is a savings in weight and thickness that may be a shadow resistance you got a resistance yeah how is that the case though because even if it's a flexible display the display elements they're still protected by a layer of glass that has to be something some kind of conventional glass right yeah but yeah it's not rigid anymore right if you drop the phone like if you if you drop a phone with a rigid display not bridgit glass covering the display a rigid display that panel can shatter if you shatter just the glass of that you could replace just a glass if the display doesn't shatter I using one of these flexible displays then you could just replace the glasses which is cheaper I get you okay I understand that but most of the thing i see shattered phones in the real world I see shattered glass and a perfectly intact display behind it yeah but they could also just use plastic over this flexible display instead of glass which I would I would ain't it fringe yeah and that's that would be a samsung move that would be what would be they wouldn't be able to do that it's like facet of this play mmm and that would be like a surround you you can do that together no you can make your capacitive display with plastic do yeah you can but but it woke a so it will be the worst scratch magnin you could think wait you don't see the palm pre yeah and by the way regarding the regarding the flexible display um actually that was like about a week later after those rumors of a flexible display then it came out that both LG and Samsung had played this crazy order a flexible displace to the vendor but they're really looking for using that for smartwatch to give it more of like a pebble curvature and we are going to get into that in a second yeah we're gonna talk about that soon but yeah I guess that's not coming on a phone they're planning on using it on something else actually so that yeah I will stick out of that one I don't I don't know I don't know enough to know so that's what I'm gonna throw my hands in exact way buddy and I was enough to know back away I just don't think that they're gonna come out with something like crazy resolution airy on this phone because the galaxy s whatever they're gonna lie they're using the galaxy s as the phone that pushes whatever innovations and then the note 2 is just the bigger version with a setting that can also use the saddle thing this is the timing no III agree so all these rumors about a possible metal chassis and all this stuff is like now we're not gonna see that we're gonna see a larger galaxy s4 yeah rather a larger galaxy note 3 but that uses the design language the galaxy s4 you know and I'm almost want to say I'm okay with that just because I I like the look of the galaxy s4 you better and the galaxy s the galaxy note 2 improved on the galaxy s3 in terms of its did feel in hand it definitely feels more substantial and not just because it's heavier and bigger because it's built better and I hope that that's the case here as well with it with a note 3 but we will find out about that and the last thing I want to talk about is that the battery I think they've I've seen this at a couple sites I don't know if we reported on it but looks like people are nailing down this value of a 3450 milliamp hour battery yeah which is slightly larger than the 30 100 ml and power pack that the current note to rocks but I am read that this won't represent a sizable boost in endurance because it rips with an eight-core processor right skizzy can go up with the accident and no okay apparently it's apparently okay so this is an old rumor there are seven variants of the same phone right actually at seven variants apparently and one of these is most of these are running the Snapdragon 800 so if you get the Snapdragon 800 plus that battery I'm sure that's gonna be you know that's gonna be a beauty now one of these phones actually has an LCD panel and not an a mole it is that the one that they're saying that might be the Galaxy Note active yeah and they're the rumor in that that phone is also gonna have an 8 megapixel camera so so yeah so yeah so apparently we are getting a note active and I would guess a C's experience of the note I don't care what the specs I'll get it I loved that galaxy s4 active man I missed that thing well Liz yeah I'm speaking of wanting I'm actually as much of an advocate as I've been of the note in the note 2 mm-hmm I'm kind of math about this and I wrote an editorial yesterday I said I may be done with big homes for ever nom and which is weird because you have like the biggest hands on the team right yeah and and I've loved im mean I've been a huge advocate of the so-called phablet for years now and I've looked bigger phones and then I got the galaxy mega 6.3 and co hey that's ridiculous that's not bad that ridiculous they break absolutely just destroyed me oh um because I just I could not get into using the phone like I usually get a new phone and I don't care if I wanted to get it or not like I might moan and groan when somebody's like hey we're sending you this phone and I'm like okay and then i get it and i unbox it and I'm like okay I'm excited yes let's have fun with this and in the Z ultra was just kind of like sweet this is awesome i was excited about getting it and then it came and I'm like oh yeah this doesn't fit anywhere no I saw one on the bus the other day looks ridiculous I had nowhere to put it didn't fit in my pockets I had to sit it in my car seat because it wouldn't fit in the console picture and you're like I'm picturing you like buckling it in with seatbelt did you have a child safety seat for this yeah yeah did you tie a balloon to it just in case it wandered off I mean there was just nowhere to put the phone except for in my bag and if I put it in my pocket it literally jabbed me in the stomach when I sat down so I'm going out with my friends to restaurants and stuff and I'm just like you know squirming around in the seat trying to fix my phone because it's just not comfortable by the way like is it like right now it's like eleven o'clock in Romania somewhere in some dance club in Romania Anton's like Anton's is just like perking up and like looking up into the air and like sniffing and going some that was my right on the podcast that phone has to be mine he said it's like he said he was done with big forms to what yeah he's always wanted tablet this is the guy yeah this is a guy who loves tablet phone so if you ask him I will ask him because I'll see him next week I'll ask him that very thing yeah he said after the PadFone he was all right I I'm gonna make the point here Taylor though that those two phones that you cite I think are not even in its case of the Sony device i don't think it's properly positioned i think that's a small tablet not a big phone and you said as much and i think that the galaxy mega is just ridiculous so if you put those aside the fact that they're not really either well-made or well targeted products you know the Galaxy Note family is the handheld ones the phablet versions so you know I think that's good keep it if they keep it around the same size but what they're going to look at five point six eight inches if that's true you know that's like basically because 5.5 is is pretty good I think yeah yeah if they keep it around the same size i'll be happy yeah much it that doesn't necessarily mean i'll get it though because I mean as much as I've loved the note 2 and I mean I still use it now you know from time to time I'm actually really enjoying having a small phone again and I think it's because I carry two phones again yeah that is that is it if you carry more than one device but then you get into our territory of like get tech dudes and I don't want to get too far away from I don't want to I get worried about good losing touch with normal people you know after a while because most people don't carry more than one phone you know and we all carry it like 16 at a time you look at the forum threads at the pocket on forums what's in your bag Michael Fisher like 86 devices then do you really want me to answer that exactly he's one response to the thread took up like three pages yeah it was it was it was nuts so so I like to stay in touch with people who only carry one phone and I understand Samsung's decision to continue improving the note line even if it's only marginally and we don't know maybe maybe it'll be massive but one thing that I'll say is if these rumors are true which I think they are that we're going to see a marginal increase its just an incremental upgrade that's sad because to me last year the note 2 was very exciting not just because it was represented an improvement in aesthetic design but because it brought in so many useful features and cool features that it kind of totally reinvented the Galaxy Note like the first one with this experiment that went right but the second one was like now we've got a polished consumer product here and watch us sell millions and then they did so that yeah that was cool wasn't it yeah no I mean the mode the multi-window the the hovering of the pop-up yes sir and that you have a browser I mean that they really figured out okay we're gonna ship a big displayed let's not just make this a big phone right let's make let's make it useful right I'm afraid they're gonna go galaxy s4 with it though and what I mean by that is is throwing in all these yes vote innovations where and I said it today in an editorial I wrote I don't want to tilt my head to scroll in the browser and I don't know anyone that does and and that's kind of Samsung's thing as they're like ooh this is a good idea let's do it mm-hmm but and and and I feel that they're gonna probably do that with a couple things and it kind of detracts from the whole experience and yet i was comparing that with the moto x because i was i was saying that nobody wants to tilt their head to scroll in the browser and nobody wants to scrunch up their nose and blink twice to you know fire the shutter in the camera like nobody wants to do these really weird unnatural things and and motorola has actually kind of used real use cases to improve the phone and and samsung it's it's like they have this disconnect with the real world where you know if you stand on your head phone will do you know crazy things it's like why I don't understand so that's my fear with with the the note 3 I said the Samsung what I'm good I just imagined the project manager going into the engineering department of being like okay guys we're gonna build what sensors are we're building into this phone and they're like oh this and this and this okay what can I do with these sensors in that you know everybody just brainstorms like 20 ideas and he's like okay build them all into the phone yeah yeah you know it right and like like cross your eyes for pinch to the counter-argument pinch-to-zoom the counter-arguments all that of course is like why not right so the counter-argument is why not include all these features and if you don't like him you can just disable them right but in but throwing that many features into the phone to begin with you know first of all diluted it is and they're not invisible it's not like they're just hanging out back there the phone prompts you out of the box is like you want to enable all this crap and you're like yeah sure and even if you don't do that they're in the toggles the notification toggle shade all the time so the thing just feels loaded down you know what is loaded down the system images like is huge footprint is massive so but we've we've covered all this before we'll see what Samsung does in the future let's keep our eye on the on the ball here and let's move on a little bit we're going to come back to sams and oh I'm gonna patent are you're gonna patent crossing your eyes to pinch to zoom I think you should do that release the Martin phone I'd buy one let's talk a little bit about a different phone from another manufacturer for a second now this is a manufacturer I don't know much about and I say that in a lot of podcasts and you know you got it you got to think that sometimes maybe if I communicated more with this company I'd know a little bit more about him but we don't know we don't know these things maybe we'll find out maybe I'll get to meet some people at Aoife maybe that'll change some things guys tell me something about the Sony Honami is this a is this a smartphone what is this it is a smartphone actually at first I thought this was gonna be a phablet but it turns out that this is like it's like a continuation to the Xperia Z where you know it's actually being rumoured that it's gonna be called the Xperia Z what you guys remember the name ok well yeah it's yeah i was gonna exactly the z1 it was rumored to be called the xperia i1 and then they changed it to z1 it's like a continued it's like a continuation to the Z so what you're getting is you know I'm knocking I I'm knock I'm gonna knock on wood here and I'm just hoping that they figure out the display with this phone um whatever ok let me stop you there I reviewed the Z ultra and it has the new triluminos display yet it doesn't have the one I had does not have the X reality engine yet it was using the mobile bravia to engine to and honestly I just I didn't feel the display I thought it was it was okay it wasn't a mind blowing and I just got absolutely just torn apart in the comments of that review and I did I used it beside the one the all the all the different you know just lie types and I read other reviews and they were saying that the display was great but I honestly didn't think it was amazing the black levels are absolutely garbage like black on this display looks her was like light gray slate gray yeah yeah yeah it was mediocre and people were just ripping you can go read the comments now it's just it's alyssa listeners the reason why this is is because the display yeah okay so when people when I review the experience the elevat-- they tore me as well they were like what it's got the mobile the Mobile BRAVIA Engine what and I'm like you know what I reviewed the Xperia S which did have the Bravia Engine one and that was a beautiful display it's like if they grabbed the this way of the HTC One X and they just put it on there Sony it was that's good yeah it was that good the Xperia S had a beautiful display but what is the Bravia Engine on the Xperia ZL okay listen just imagine yourself opening the photograph and then when you open the photograph wait one second and look for greens to look greener and look at lose to look bluer that's really the Bravia Engine it only works when you open a photo ok you know it ramps up and and I don't know if the X reality engine is the same way I can't tell because I've never used it because the Z ultra that I review didn't have the X reality engine and I tried to explain that I explained it in the review and people just didn't get so yeah I started I met you know what started having something happen over here just in the last couple seconds my eyes started defocusing and I started salivating in anticipation of a yawn and I think within about 10 seconds I'm going to be asleep so can we talk about the home that'll be good ok so the Honami I'm actually I'm actually gonna gonna praise sony and a couple of things here before i continue talking about this phone so apparently you're getting a 20 megapixel camera i'm gonna praise the fun of the sony later but okay so you're getting a 20 megapixel camera and rumors are that you are getting and i don't know about optical image civilization but i do know 4k video so we go back to the same galaxy note commentary forget about it you know that's but that but aside from that it's apparently a dedicated camera shutter button is the rumor dedicate open well almost yeah well the xperia ZL had one I don't know busy all drill tro did too yes good 0 sony continuing that that's nice yeah and and and actually this is gonna be a waterproof phone as well yes it's dan apparently it's gonna have this metal chrome band around it and it's gonna be really thin metal chrome band would seem to suggest that there won't be the bevy of access doors in this one exactly well well the ultra had a it was a it wasn't chrome but it was an aluminum band around the outside and it had all the access to oh did it really ok so now i'm gonna take that back sorry yeah alright so that's that's pretty cool what else we got there that's time dragon 800 under the poet or an 800 is we go to ram hunza bezel is there time to bezzle from the images were saying yeah on the top and bottom there's a lot it just looks when you compare it to something like the s4 which has very very little bezel mm-hmm this looks ridiculous or or maybe it's because i've been using the Moto X for so long or for a few weeks and it's just well you've also been using the Lumia 1020 you should be used to a little basil but now yeah you know and listen again in my review of the zeal that another comment that i got like crazy was why are you complaining about that 13 megapixel camera ok the bottom line listeners is you know Sony builds the sensors for what you get on the iphone and the galaxy s4 and just as that I don't know what these company do with the sony sensor that's better than sony because photos on the 13 megapixel camera of the zeal were grainy and I don't know what to expect about this 20 megapixel camera as well sadly yeah sadly i also don't know yeah sony is is really big on emphasizing their camera quality in their in their events like you have motorola you know sort of did that for the moto x but then once the release happened or once we get closer to release they really really d emphasize the camera performance so other companies kind of adapt on the move it sony always seems to make this big deal about like we were using the Exmor RS and all this kind of stuff in it's like yeah they're giving names to everything and it's not listen by the way but Taylor Martin's all three of us have a sony NEX camera that we used to film our videos yeah we love we are happy we are happy sony customers when it comes to their cameras but sadly that's like if these two departments didn't talk to each other over there in japan it's like if they don't get along it apparently is that product another interesting thing I'm seeing about the Honami in addition to it being waterproof which you know I always love is freaking the the battery looks like a 3000 milliamp hour battery from what I understand yes yeah yeah on a bet on a very thin phone apparently this this phone is gonna be like really thin well it doesn't look thin in the the pictures that I'm saying but then again this person's hand might be just extremely small um yeah I can't tell I don't know but uh if I have one note to add I've used the Z and the Z ultra and they're both built really really well there that it's a very high point the the tablet Z I have that as well same exact design language they're all built very well but they all have the same problem the glass scratches so easily really it's dragon trail right I haven't scratched my xperia ZL that's interesting i scratched the xperia z unboxing it no way yeah and the ZL scratched with III babied that thing I you know yeah I had to use it with two hands thank you not yet not the seal i mean the the old z ultra sorry but i babied it yes hi me but i babied it and I you know I carried it two hands set it down gently and everything and it just it got scratched and I really just didn't take a whole lot and that was a leak well I'll admit for example the ZL is probably i don't think i've ever used the phone like the zeal without a case for so long because i don't find cases for that phone here and it is it looks brand new it still looks brand new but you know another thing that I'd probably like to praise about Sony aside from their build quality is you know this phone is already running Android 4.2 point2 and this is like a first time ever that Sony does this I mean ever since they launched their xperia android lineup you know we were already doing froyo and they came up with it with a cupcake phone hmm and then the Xperia S they offered their their ice cream sandwich update and they kept people waiting for six months they said march then April and May then June July when you least expect that you got it in October i was the taylor swift phone i can't remember the name of that one I don't want yeah there was a phone that that it was an Xperia that they had like a Taylor Swift special edition it might be the ones you were talking about this cupcake it took them like a year to launch the phone because they couldn't get the software right yeah and so and so the point is Sony's getting really good when it comes to software you know i got android 4.2 point2 like almost three weeks ago and yesterday I got another update for some battery issues um you know they're getting really good at this they they're finally figuring out their software updates that's probably their implementations not the best in the world but at least you mean it's probably like one of the most advanced films that I have right now and that's like the first time ever Sony's always been late and they finally figured this one out so I guess that you know let's see what we get with this you know honami whatever that phone is gonna be called but you know at least on the software front they're doing a really good job let's hope they go ahead I know a lot of people don't like the sony interface um I don't like the icons in particular but that's about the only thing i don't like about it yeah yeah i actually enjoy the software and the small apps it's not that we're cool yeah the small apps or they've been done before but the fact that you can turn any widget into a small app is amazing yeah so you can just open like my press widget I use press for RSS reader i can open press and view that while i'm in the browser you know it's just it kind of one ups on samsung's multi window or you know yeah the other floating apps that are out there but as you can turn anything into a float you know i am you know in spin speaking of Samsung I mean and speaking of Android as well I mean none of the galaxy I mean not none of the phones from last year galaxy note 2 galaxy s3 none of these phones have gotten four point two point two yet and Sony's already nailed it and for those of you that are rocking the HTC One X it's already got four point two point two as well at least the international very and I got it two days ago and it finally made this phone usable again so I mean Sony is one of those companies that has figured that one out which is interesting because Samson was really good about updates before and now they've become terrible well and then carriers get in the game and you know the updates thing is something that might never get solved ever but yeah but yeah we samsung said they're not doing for that too because for that three is there it's already out there were hanging on it right yeah so this just in 222 new facts i'm sorry about my flurry of typing before but it was a time-sensitive issue i'm apparently i'm going to a red sox game tonight hooray hey that's a nice fun surprise secondly I've just dispatched another email to one of our contacts at Sony and hopefully we'll be able to see this thing once we once we arrive at Aoife in a timely fashion we will definitely be able to see the Honami it's just a question of when and hopefully it will be sooner rather than later in a related note we we have a very very very busy schedule at this year's Aoife and i think we should move on a little bit but i want to ask you guys about something else we might see from sony at this event and it's not the one ami but it is an accessory and it's something we talked about on the weekly before it it looks like the most ridiculous thing ever you remember the soup can we talked about that goes on the back of your phone makes you take pretty pictures yes so yeah there's a there's a rumored price for it now what is that rumored price for this attachment um one of them let me see if i could find us they liked that didn't you that's what it looks like all right let me look what is it gonna be called Campbell's or what the Sony Campbell's Campbell all right so funny progressive is called the qx100 and the other one is a qx10 yes I said yeah the qx100 is uh supposedly gonna hit at five hundred US dollars these guys are nuts that's a question oh wait a second that's the price of an NEX five then why am I gonna pay ya my bar why am I gonna pay ya careful soup can that I have to attach to my phone when all I could use as my mirrorless camera that's stupid is you're gonna be kind to things anyway right yeah what's the other one great 2x10 is priced at approximately 230 US dollars now it supposedly uses the same sensor as the rx100 which is a very nice camera ooh what hey wait a second that's a full-frame sensor yeah it's an in one inch sensor 1 inch 20 points megapixels okay no hold it right there if you're talking about a full-frame sensor on that out of little frame but well the rx100 that's what it has it said that's the whole that's the only reason what is it full frame sensor okay so when you buy a DSLR you either get you know it's not a full frame sensor and those are like the entry-level cameras but if you get the full frame sensor that's like you're talking about canon 5 you know a 5d I'm on a really expensive camera okay you have to bite like a really expensive camera to get a full frame sensor and what made this rx100 so popular is that they figured out it fit that small little sent that huge sensor into that small little petite camera so it's it's it's not a mirrorless camera it's like a point it's a point-and-shoot camera with a full-frame sensor that's what makes it popular so I mean if they're gonna be charging 500 bucks for that lens which is a camera as well it's got a full frame sensor that thing is gonna be out of this world for 500 bucks now we're talking wait no go ahead know the rx100 isn't the rx1 is a full frame okay x 100 is not full frame it's a it's a cyber shot it's a pocket okay well that's what wait a second that but that's the thing they are there was there's an RX point-and-shoot camera that has a full-frame sensor and that's why it's so popular hmm it's like don't like the camera it's like it's like a leica camera it's a it's a portable it looks like it like yeah that's the arm that's the rx1 which is like a 2700 dollar point-and-shoot camera yeah yeah so that's not what we're talking about yeah so we're talking about the rx100 which is like seven hundred dollars or 750 so you're getting that same sensor which is still a great camera the the rx100 is the best point and shoot you can get if i'm not mistaken but this this little Bowl tone attachment for your phone will have the same sensor 20.2 megapixels as the rx100 m2 so your mark 2 and that that one's supposed to be around 450 to 500 and then the other one is 230 so it's yeah I mean so these things seem to be its I don't know what their strategy is here right because you're carrying their things that once the only thing that makes this different than carrying a smartphone and a dedicated really awesome camera is that these are smaller than a typical dedicated really awesome camera they're not much smaller but they are smaller so maybe that matters if you are you know not if you're gonna be wearing skinny jeans but if you're going to be carrying like if you don't wanna carry a bag but you are going to be wearing a vest with a lot of pockets imagine imagine imagine getting a phone call with that thing strapped to your phone and you wouldn't want to write so it should be something that's so easy that it the NFC is constantly aware and then when when the apps NFC connection is broken then it just disables it I don't know maybe it's just some good slap on quickly so Sony is making this a seemingly it's an awesome product I mean to be able to attach that to the back of my Moto X and actually take decent pictures is amazing i'd like to do that and i actually probably would stop caring and the moto x needs it yeah the Moto X doesn't need this accessory but they're making this accessory that is the it's not going to be marketed to a mass consumer base because nobody is going to actually want to buy that for 450 or 500 dollars now they're not going to see the point of it because this is an accessory you're selling an accessory for more than what most people conceive a phone to be worth exactly and Percy this is a world where you can wear the galaxy excuse me the LG g2 has an optically image an optically stabilized camera built into a body that doesn't have a bulge in it basically you know that that's you know that's the world you're launching these these big old hockey pucks into so I just it depends on who the who the target consumer is maybe we're all being short-sighted and there's a there's a market for this that's just been dying for this but I don't know exactly what it is but I will say this and I've said it before but the geeky part of me is excited about it i want to put aside my responsibility to the consumer for a second and just think about me because i do that well i'm a selfish dude but it's like hey look there's this nerdy thing that that that attaches to your phone and enhances its functionality like a tricorder peripheral like a sensor package like something anything that that actually like gloms onto the back of my phone to make it better for some reason I'm really amped on that I don't know why and just I like that I like hardware that's customizable it's like an exoskeleton for your phone yeah like an Elysium did you see that there was an awesome movie it was an awesome it was not subtle but it was an awesome movie it was not subtle at all but it was great Jenna Foster's accent lol I don't know just I'm trying to see if functionality for this it's cool I mean it just cost the same amount of money as a camera and it's got almost the same sizes of camera so what's the difference about just carrying I am I know how do you how do you move your pictures from your camera to your phone when you're okay okay so here's the thing that body that body has storage it has its battery it just needs the phone as a viewfinder yeah so so yeah you can send the fight I'm sure you can send the photos to the phone with this like on a sony nex-5r you can send them through Wi-Fi you can do that so do that with my camera you can do with the NEX just get a an eye-fi card exactly 4 30 40 bucks exactly so I guess my point is this is cool it's just you know let's see how it goes well yeah but I mean I used to do that last summer I would go out and take a bunch of pictures with my new camera yeah and I used an eye-fi card and I would just connect my phone to it for a few minutes just let the picture sink over and any picture I took with my five in would be on my my iphone my iPad or whatever I had connected to the eye-fi card it's uh that to me seems like a much more practical solution because you're carrying it may be a little more bulk but you're also getting the full functionality of a camera that doesn't need a smartphone exactly and it's wonderful so all right so we've talked this thing sorted to death and we'll see it and we'll we'll talk about it next week as well on special edition pocket now quickly from Eva let's talk about another product we're not sure or at least I'm not sure is is called for there's a rumored LG G pad tablet stop like the things g and g anything LT so LG G pad last year's products are gonna be called the oh jeez oh god whoo so yeah this we i think the details on this one are pretty slim right we're looking at a possibility 8.3 inch screen it's a good start we like that resolution excuse me like that size with 10 20 or excuse me 1920 x 1200 resolution which is also quite good I mean not quite good but it's good and a quad-core processor 2 gigs of ram and a very thin form factor with minimal bezels and an aluminium back as a no brainer friends would say for reduced weight and a lot of Korean bloatware that you're not gonna be able to read no well yeah yeah there's that she likes to do that the the optimus g pro that i had there was i could use like a fourth of the things that came pre-installed it came pre-installed with over 70 applications was like 85 or something that a cultural thing is a blood we're kind of expected in in the Koreas no I'm yeah yeah I guess yes I mean it had something for everything everything I mean it had the TV app that I couldn't use it had all sorts of crazy things that I just couldn't use because they were all ingredient and changing the language didn't do anything so yeah you know just on the face of it if you take off the branding if you just look at the rumored specs with this 8-inch screen it's an okay resolution 2 gigs of ram and a very thin form factor with an aluminum back honestly you've got my attention do I remember other devices from LG other tablets having aluminum backs why do I think this is familiar to me was there a brushed metal suits yeah no I know I seuss doesn't but did LG do any of them I don't know but I know that aluminum backs on tablets has proven tricky I guess for Wi-Fi connection scratch alluro connectivity yeah because the the ax sous which one was that transformer pad I don't remember which one it was they're naming so awful but um I had one and Wi-Fi would cut out i was like maybe 15 feet from the router and Wi-Fi would just drop off and they would reconnect and it would drop off and it would reconnect and they released an update to it with a plastic cover over the antennas and it worked fine so you get around that then yet and we all like it go ahead go ahead go ahead my friend I was just saying the plastic look like it wraps around the edge on one side so it might be where the antennas are the only thing to look forward to on this phone is a very boring event and yeah LG builds the I pest IPS this place that Apple uses and those are good they're state-of-the-art so we can expect the beautiful display on a tablet uh that is probably just gonna be another me to tablet I guess and it's probably probably and I'm just going out on a limb here it's probably gonna miss the mark by 10,000 miles on price oh yeah yeah that's the thing when you have the nexus 7 which is arguably one of the best tablets have ever used in my life for two hundred and thirty bucks how do you compete with that how do you kiss tells you in detail yeah yeah lgb we would be taking a hit on the price whereas Google doesn't really care if it does it pays a sous to make the tablets it sells them through its own store and it makes the money back through google play yeah so good point so how can anybody compete that well they'll do is you take a whole bunch of features and you slap him on there and you know LG does this to a similar extent that Samsung does but now I'm gonna beit's AC get it really bad well I don't know that g2 announcement I will tell you this I was not in love with the the build quality or the choice of materials for that device I don't think it's very good-looking I don't like the way it feels in my hand I don't really think I would ever carry it for its for its physical attributes but some of those features i found compelling i liked their multitasking approach i liked some of what they were doing with multi screen I don't think the UI is very pretty but its functionality it might come in handy in some in some instances you know okay okay so you're telling me that you did not doze off at that event now that event oh no I liked that event because that isn't taylor and i were liveing on the air yeah we could not fall asleep I was in the audience and I won't tell you that event treated me like an adult did not insult my intelligence didn't make too many lame jokes and actually revealed a compelling thing or two so no I would never give LG bunk about that event i SAT through you know I survived Radio City I don't want to talk about yeah as long as there's not a tap-dancing kid on stage usually I'm happy anyway so didn't yallah but when I get married and you're at my wedding no madam that's a kid jump out in the middle leaving I'm leaving I'm gonna live tweeted angrily and I'm gonna leave Oh Joe Levi segue I know so let's talk about something that's actually compelling to me that apparently no one else cares about this was funny because um I sent an email to Steven shank our chief news guy and frequent guest on the Pocket net weekly and Anton yesterday there was a galaxy gear news leak if this is about galaxy gear at Samsung's rumored SmartWatch or almost confirmed SmartWatch I guess and I was like oh I saw this at another outlet oh my god wonder if we've reported on this so i sent it to Steven and Anton like Oh guys this is awesome i'm drooling and anton sends back this wise remark raised like hey you should check out pocketnow.com and add them to your RSS feed i hear it's a really cool website and then licks me to a story that he wrote on the Galaxy gear the problem was he he buried the galaxy gear news in a story about the galaxy note 3 screen size and that was also the title image so it didn't grab me I don't guys I don't get all excited about seeing a screen component like I generally won't click on that news story but I know a lot of people will it's only way so I got annoyed but then i was like no you know what you're probably right i'm not i'm a super nerd for smartwatches so i would have put the galaxy gear image in the headline and maybe not a lot of people clicked on it so i want to ask you guys before we talk about this device specifically does the galaxy gear excite either one of you at all why or why not hi mayor gets to go first mmm you guys have used a SmartWatch I haven't I you know if it's just gonna be another Android a companion to my phone meaning that it has the pair to my phone to be able to work and it's just gonna save me three seconds to pull the phone out of my pocket and see what the watch is gonna barely show me I'm not excited you know unless unless somebody figured out a way to make this unique in its own way meaning that it had to be a watch you couldn't do it in any other way than watch then I would be interested in buying that thing but other than that you know if it's just another accessory that I'm gonna have to charge you know which is the really the reason why Google glass is really so lukewarm I mean people are not really excited anymore about it because if you don't pair it and you don't pay for for the tethering plan you can't use it so what's the point of having it hold on i don't know this a whole nother i would dispute your contention that no one's excited about google glass anymore because it listen it's just it's just it's just hype but it's not functional is what I'm saying let's see why not talk about cuz we'll talk forever about google glass when I want to talk about that lid I wanted yeah Taylor what's your what's your nagawa okay so one a dispute hi mays claimed about you know having to use an extra device to barely read a notification because you know my pebble has completely changed the way I've used my phone yeah it stays in my pocket unless I need to pull it out and in the charging thing that's that's a totally valid point but it's also still up in the air because my pebble I just tweeted today or Instagram yeah I saw your tweet today yeah I don't remember the last time i charged my pebble today i charged it and i think i charged it may be a week and a half two weeks ago get out of here did you post an Instagram photo of your pebble today yes Jesus whatever stops like I was gonna do that two hours ago I didn't know that I was going to do that today I'm really glad I didn't because you and I are still doing the same thing at the same time that's okay we are here here's here's the thing Taylor you have an e-ink display watch it's different you know this is a cool yeah it's he Taylor well LCD no but it's fun implementation of that but the point the point being is color requires more power t paper um so so listen LG has taken a stab at the SmartWatch years ago like three years ago and it was terrible Brandon reviewed it then Sony came has come out with two smart watches and they still haven't taken up they're awful they're awful and again again I'm listen we're geeks where we live in a bubble we get a lot of devices and it's our job to test them um but you know if I would have to step aside for my role and just think about the fact that I'm gonna have to be paying for that watch I would rather buy me a gps watch or or something that adds me some functionality that the phone won't provide yeah that's a fair argument but uh in the same respect I've really loved the way that my chip my pebble works and there are so some bad sides to that in that you know I've said this like 15 times in this podcast but I wrote about it today in that it's also made me maybe a little more rude when I'm with people because somebody's talking to me and I keep looking at my wrist and they kept checking a tree that I hot date there sailor yeah yeah and I and I had to explain to them no I'm not looking at the time somebody just texted me you know and then it becomes no less rude than just checking your phone right no it's not a polite with instrument that's not no that's kind of what it was built on because it was no it wasn't it was built inconvenience it wasn't built on then I'm Bianca I'm gonna give you an example I'm going I wasn't through then I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you an example of what I would like to see in a smart watch the didn't work either hey you guys remember that moto active yet yeah release watch that was a fitness watch okay fine I love fitness that's my thing I want to buy me a fitness watch because I want to compare the results of that GPS tracking to my phones for calibration um but the point is why did that moto active not take off the reason why was imagine look a watch obviously Android was a very different thing that that back then but imagine Android crashing on you on your watch while you're you know in a run or something so it didn't work I guess I guess yeah the only reason okay so the only reason why I'm looking forward to this galaxy gear is because apparently it won't run Android apparently it'll run something that you remember the those rumors that it had its own operating system I not seen those I'm looking at the news story right now and I certain those are very old rumors and the rumors are I forgot I forgot the name sorry about that listeners but they're apparently it either won't run Android or it won't necessarily just run Android I don't know what everyone is saying it's gonna run Andrew it is yeah yeah yeah well we'll see again apparently they were working on there if it's not happening now it's gonna happen later but it wouldn't that be something if they launched the thing with on Tizen if the galaxy gear was the first Samsung Tizen device I it wouldn't surprise me but I've got something to add my problem with the galaxy gear is that it I guess 95% sure that it's going to require a galaxy device so yes you know the galaxy s4 probably i know they used samsung connect or whatever one of their many s s beam or a you know a to ya so so it's going to require a Samsung device I don't carry a Samsung device I don't enjoy samsung android phones yeah save for the note and in the note 3 might change that do you think they would limit their their exposure like that yeah they would it's Samsung they wanna they want to push their own eco and I I guess they're not limiting anymore I mean they're pretty much the biggest OEM now so yeah but they're also trying to push people into like the apps there was a rumor saying get the apps for this watch are actually only going to come from Samsung's apps store perhaps so yeah so yeah they're what they're doing is they're trying to further people into their own little right so eventually they'll just drop Android all together from far down the road exactly so that's what this device is trying to do it's selling their ecosystem and and to me that just that's not cool if that is good if that if that is the case i will be one hundred percent with you I don't think you're gonna do that I mean I listen I think it would be it's it's perfectly in line with their behavior and I think it's consistent with what we've seen from them and I wouldn't be surprised if they did it but I just don't want them to so I'm gonna believe they're not gonna do that ok I'll give you I'll give you an example of one of those cases that totally failed the blackberry playbook oh yeah yeah you know the blackberry playbook could not how could you build a tablet that can't read email unless you have a blackberry phone yeah but you know they were talking about a very different company there a because I had already fallen off the top of the heap yes but that was that was when blackberry was still blackberry two years ago three years ago never rent you know whatever research a mover and they were falling hard yeah that's the thing they were samsung is not is nowhere close to falling I mean they're they're throwing Ling Desai's like that they're turning out kind of iterative improvements on plastic stuff they're there skyrocketing yes Samsung is throwing a million ideas at a wall seeing what sticks and sticking with what sticks they're moving forward with the good ideas and the one thing the final point I want to add is that the korea times and you called me buzz killington yesterday on twitter for saying this buzz killington yes but the korea times had an interview with a samsung executive and her name is lee young-hee and probably mispronounced that but she calls the galaxy gear a a concept right yes I wear a bra concept device that yeah important because it's a custom device is not close to protection or close to being made into production but they are going to show it off that has been confirmed yes they know so don't see it but I we don't know if it'll ever get made I guess mm-hmm listen I want this thing to get made I like wearable technology especially watches it a nerdy cool thing I like him almost as much as I like flip phones almost as much as you like Star Trek well the reason I like flip phones and when watch phones is because of Star Trek so they're blows on the right point right yeah you were I dragged you were near there so we will see you're near there your your round about the neighborhood and also there's some Chinese phone that's the thinnest android phone ever that we're gonna see any of us so uh let's get yeah we're not you know can you imagine that gay if they would bring back PTT and add that to the galaxy gear and make it a thing like God push push to talk between between watches that i would that would be cool all I want is for push to talk to make it come back such a push-to-talk nerd as well I just want to make calls with my watch so I can look like Dick Tracy yeah man yeah man listen I have a better chance to see listen just just think about it just imagine the idea of having a bluetooth headset on your head because there's the sets the moment you can have been trying to imagine trying to imagine on hammy but I don't know if I quite get there it's so far-fetched all right sorry about this sorry about that okay badges carrying a bluetooth headset and using your watch I mean some people are not I could this be like the next dumb phone meaning you know oh my nice what like the Bluetooth watch replaces the dumb phone for people who just want voice calling and maybe an SMS yeah you know it's it's gonna be a watch it's gonna be a dumb a dumb phone concept and it you know you can either use it as a speaker phone or use an optional accessory to make phone calls can you valley that would be awesome that would be awesome dude dude that is an awesome editorial I'm not gonna be able to write it you should write it is the Bluetooth watch the next dumb phone you see you don't care about it but I would watch that but now you know 10,000 people are gonna hear this and this can involve somebody's gonna write it somebody will somebody out there you won't have time but somebody will you're welcome you want to add one more thing I lied when I said that I only had one more point to add it's fresher on me but go ahead yeah yeah Lee Jung p kid I got I got to go see the sox kid yeah go ahead she also said that it would not have a flexible display which yeah kind of goes here yeah the galaxy gear she said it would not have it fit a flexible display which kind of goes against the patents and designs that we've seen the losers yeah is this render who made this render by the way well the first rendered I don't know about the the colored renders but I know the first pictures of it were from a patent application so they're actually what it should look like but they also show a curved display so if it's not flexible display but it shows a curved display I don't know on our hands in the air back away you know what it might be I think I might envision like an inverse of the nexus s where it has a flat so it's nothing like the render we see but it has a flat display underneath a curved glass light I mean glass that's convex it might it might don't leave that what uh what I meant where we gonna say well I guess that's like the only point why you would want a flexible display because it would be as your nomming for your or you're exactly like that's the thing all right so i will i'll admit that I think the renders of this thing I've gotten me more excited than anything else about it because this curved this image of a curved display that's compelling I mean I'm gonna laugh when it comes out and it actually just looks like a pebble it's a pebble with TouchWiz and like hyper glaze and faux metal trim can you imagine you can put you can you can now wave it your watch to move you know from side to side yeah you flick your wrist 15 times i'm like really samsung how is it that flicking my whole hand will be more ergonomic than just flipping my finger over the display exactly yeah basically what we're so excited for about the galaxy gear is that it's everything against what Samsung is theoretically about so the fact that if they announced this and it's a typical Samsung device we won't care that's pretty much what we've just confirmed right so basically Samsung if you do your normal thing and nobody's gonna care about the galaxy gear do something new basically no tap dancing right no no tap dancing please samsung if you do one more thing please throw some tap dancing in your f event for furred Michael just Michaels okay Sam service listens and see what word of warning word of warning are romanian is going to be there and if you pull a tap dancer there he's gonna push his Russian accent Stan look nothing I i want to tell you i want to tell you guys that I i took a tap dancing class in college I had a dance requirement to fulfill was part of my acting degree and I took a tap dancing class and I enjoyed the heck out of it but I was not any good at it and I'm really glad that cameras on phones were not so prevalent back then because there's no footage of me tap dancing and there never will be and I'm glad about that and tell you that yeah yeah there is footage of you piss drunk in Vegas so anyways you know there's footage of you saw on a couple logs in Vegas so guys I think we've we've hit the molecule point of the podcast where we have to say good night Taylor final thoughts before we bail on out of this aircraft I don't like tap dancing it's not a bad idea I just the man I just imagined Tony getting up and being like let's get out of here let's connect let's go there's always this is always the mighty should we should not be doing this yeah let's let's go get some jack let's go get some jacket is a waste of time you will have a jack we will have a cook we will do a podcast yes yeah speaking of Tony we will be doing the next of the very next pocket now weekly podcast you hear will be live from Aoife and by live I mean you know as live as it usually is and we will record it from a hotel room with probably a lot of echo and we will have a little bit of palinka so it should be nice and enjoyable we should be able to link up with one of you fine gentlemen back here in the United States so we can have a nice three-way conversation and I think it's going to be very exciting so we're going to be talking about things we've just seen including Samsung Samsung products because their event is before anybody else's samsung and sony or like two days before the show even starts and then yeah and then there's a variety of shows after that there's LG is also opening their booth the next day so we're gonna have a lot to talk about next week before Aoife even get started so stay tuned for that we're also going to be covering it at pocketnow.com as usual and guys thank you in advance for for backing us up back here in the homeland we appreciate it guys my night my mind I kill your exit for a second I mean yeah I'm star Delia my cousin are we even expecting anything from Windows Windows Phone anything from even with Windows the Windows Phone team will be there from Microsoft they will be I imagine will be much like mwc was where they have a lot of events or well nokia had their 720 and 520 at mwc but microsoft also just had a kind of a thing where they showed off the existing Windows Phone where's and we got to talk to some of the people on the team and that was very cool but I don't think we're expecting anything new from from them it would be cool to be surprised but I don't think we will be is this a motorola going to be there as well to be quite honest I don't know it's a European event and so I think unless I'm missing it on my checklist I don't see it it's on here somewhere alone I tweeted a Stefan earlier so our friend and friend upon friend of the show stefan constantinescu at what the bit we liked him we liked our friend Stephan Stephan damn it I can never get that right either yeah I can't get it right friends names right Tyler oh here it is Tyler and Jamie we're about to sorry it was HTC just kidding uh yeah thought so cuz omoto is not big in Europe so we will but it you will be seeing everybody wait wait a second speaking of HTC the one x max are one max or whatever oh yeah the one well there but I don't think we've seen any signs that read listeners that is the phablet that is yet made in the shape of the HTC One by the way I just sent an HTC one mini to Brandon minimum that thinks cute yeah it is too small for my hands fresh HTC one max images and details come to light for hours it's it's too limited for my hands anyways haha we makin jokes hey there's definitely a square outline under the camera of the HTC One max for presumably for a fingerprint reader I I can't figure out you know they've tried to do fingerprint readers ever since the pocket pc yeah but this one is right where the dimple is on the Moto X what if you had to keep your finger on the HTC One max for the entire time you used it if you ever get finger off it would lock you need to stop talking listen I think this is a great idea I'm gonna go start my own company I'm working here you're gonna be calling that the finger phone yeah that's right finger dimple hey crow crows you home kitchen the fingers the finger dimple links up with your Galaxy gear just cross your eyes the 10 on your head you make phone call scrunch your nose and blink twice to take pictures right I want to make it clear that thank you listeners for your questions that were tweeted in before this episode of the weekly we answered all of them they were all about the galaxy note 3 because apparently nobody who follows us cares about anything else so hopefully we covered your questions in the course of our discussion sorry we didn't call you out individually but i think we cut it a little close to broadcast times there were just not not enough responses listener mail by the way we will get to you guys unfortunately not next week because Tony and I will be covering Eva we will get to you the week after that and feel free to beat me over the head with that quote if I forget the week after that but we were gonna have a good amount of listener mail by the time I come back and maybe we'll have another special episode that sound good to you guys no good no Taylor Taylor hates everything Jaime thank you thank you for your positivity gentlemen hey I want to thank you for joining me on this special episode of the weekly everyone listeners find us on Twitter hi maze and Jaime underscore Rivera Taylor is at casper tech cas ber tek no rolled are and as always you can find me at captain two phones you can also follow pocket now officially at pocket now on twitter as pocket now on Instagram Facebook Google+ and you can share opinions with other listeners online at forums pocketnow.com which is a happenin place if you enjoy the podcast please leave us a review on iTunes or Xbox music and if you have a topic question or suggestion for the show or you just want to say hi you can email us at podcast at park dot com thanks for listening everyone and we'll see you next week from Berlin I'll see y'all later say yeah I was great good Taylor Taylor was all bubbly and then high made sounded like the most dejected depressed child at the dentist officer see it's like it's like we just had a sleepover and you don't want us to leave so there's like that's cool