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Galaxy S 5 launch rumors, new devices, MWC invitations: Pocketnow Live S02E12 1/2

2014-01-24
my attack good morning good afternoon good evening everybody again hopefully this time nobody will kill the broadcast this is season 2 episode 12 and a half from the bucket alive in the same formation and we'll just pick it up where we left it off and i'm here with the steven camera on him and i'm also here with Taylor camera on him let's leave the camera on him and let's have him take this away for now all right i'm gonna choose someone I haven't spoken to in a very long time mr. dominicano if you could unmute yourself it's been months a very very long time how are you sir incredibly tired I got up for work at 6am this morning so right there with you I'm very tired myself after it was after calling it a night at like 3am why I have no idea I know why I didn't get to bed until 2am it's because i have a kitten who doesn't like me sleeping so and at the moment i'm also puppy sitting a staffordshire bull terrier somewhere nice so what device are you using these days I still got the nexus 4 which is being retired like next week when i get a moto G because I get my first paycheck next week and and I also i still have this review loner that i never actually got around to giving back to a company and its i actually posted in the forum just a Chinese phone with a quad-core mediatek chip a 1080p 5-inch screen actually not bad but yeah the performance it was had so much better with a 720p display i think the GPU is just really struggling with a 1080p display do i will say is an absolutely gorgeous display yeah well i think you're going to enjoy the Moto G it's it's very quaint but it's a very nice home and I didn't want to send mine back so so there's that but you have any questions for myself or Steven or Tony regularly about mobile Congress what to expect or anything like that I yeah personally for me I've got ridiculously tiny hands so I'm actually really interested in the Xperia z1 compact really hard not to experience that one mini but I wondered if if Sony is going to be there and if they'll bring the z1 compact because they announced it yes yeah I know that'll be there the usually motorola Sony and all the others whatever they are now to CES they have that phone on display with their booth at mwc now I'm guessing there will be no other announcements or minor announcements at mwc but the phones from CES namely the compact because the z1s is basically does he want it will be there what about these as e to rumors you've been hearing about as well kind of you see if you like for that to be announced at mwc but sony if my memory serves well has never launched something big at mwc Casillas is their turf so I'm guessing that it will be somewhere in within the year either during summer or towards I don't know q3 minus Z Xperia S launched I genuine I'm struggling to member as they see som de Leon was CES and it's basically one front for tmobile with the the loop removed and replaced by a plastic rim and that will see yes yes but I'd like to believe they do like her a fresh said one or maybe even the side to now but it's just too early I mean we got the said one in like september-october didn't we maybe yeah yeah the rumors about the the z two are weird because they're so very very similar to the z1 gasping it's slightly larger display but the processor apparently looks like it's going to be unchanged it's unclear why people would be drawn to this device rather than there's not even sure I think at all Steven you're the one who brought up the spell is point either last week or or on the bot guest I'm sure it came out from your mouth that we're might not be looking at the sea too but the world might be looking at a specific carrier version of the z1 yeah not like a z1 see again the money go not another carrier version probably a for either another US carrier or from for before what if I don't Hey look that ray so it's like Sony is taking on samsung from three years ago Oh God so we can expect about eight more versions of it before it's over with but to answer your initial question I was never this amped about the mini phone like I am about the z1 compact because I've reviewed the s4 mini I've reviewed the one mini and they're all nice phones i mean i'm still using the one mini every now and then but the z1 compact finally brings the flagship to the smaller form factor than four point something inch screen which is which is something you're not seeing every day nowadays and thank God that someone's doing this this is long overdue this is the way it should be done I mean it's very much chicken and sorry Taylor and it's very much a chicken and egg problem it's we loads of people say they want smaller phones with high-end specs but like the trade-off for that is it's usually going to be a thicker phone because of thermal constraints or the battery and then the price is very high and then it doesn't matter if it's in the US or even here in the UK bigoted equates to bet I mean the amount of them galaxy Mega's I've seen around here is a phenomenal it's like why would you buy the mega like I want to know it's not a super know and but bigger equates to better yeah it's like I least in every wish for you yeah um do you think Sony went with the compact name or moniker to try to avoid any stigma related to many phones because the ipad mini was originally much more toned down from the the ipad for the HTC one mini its specifications aren't as great as the HTC One the s4 mini same thing and they has three mini same thing it's been going on for years so do you think that might be why they what was compact I that's what they said I think they just wanted to be a little bit awkward as well but I think I genuinely also had something to do with it I mean like you said the s4 mini especially was not very well received it almost anywhere I think because it it wasn't an s4 straight up it's yeah well I wanted he's not a one either yeah yeah that no mini phone has been it's been many to at least mobile manufacturers means um toned down yeah so one of my good friends just came back to the United States after being abroad for several years so he needed to get a new phone and I've been pushing recommendations at him left and right and then while he was on vacation unable to be get my scholarly advice went ahead and bought himself a galaxy s4 mini oh seems to like it but I just can't help shake my head oh the things that could have been if you just got yourself a moto x well listen the s4 mini is not the bat phone no it's got a nice display just a little low res and yeah but it performs well I mean it's you know which you can easily bug down it's just that I think that it's more in our minds that we are expecting more and we don't really under or maybe we understand the difference between a flagship and its mini sibling but we fail to see the actual difference and the different target audience for everyone to be something it's not perhaps I I understand that I mean but again it's just that didn't is it the s4 mini that has a really weird one and a half gigs of RAM yeah like why not but why not we've got a couple of extra like chip said this just just solder them down I mean we're gonna sell a couple one a half gags get for it and how much more would it possibly cost to use two gigabytes instead of the one and a half I mean it's like another one and a half of some hands of components it's yeah it's not normal anyway so you think it would be more expensive to implement just by nature of being a little odd yeah this dis is so damn song we're talking about these guys like I don't think money is a concern to them in any of their departments like what what's their flex will display technological is that you why are you emmerson like that yeah yeah like I I don't know if it was at CES or if it was a special Samsung conference they had like flexible display demos of people hitting the displays with like hammers just to show how durable they were it's just like that must have been terrifying in the lab well however many millions of dollars you've made to make this tiny screen which is flexible and you're whacking it with a hammer I I don't think I could do it no this to me the robots whack the phones with the Hammers come on oh oh is it like oh gee with the wire brush on the g flex yeah dude really Michael anyone to scrub it it's fun yeah Michael would enjoy it each that's what he should do for a living actually I think I think Michael look for one he should be the one responsible for actually starting the entire process of robots just hammering should one big red button he'd be like this ah what a creep that Michael let Michael yeah yeah many go any any final thoughts or any questions or anything you would like to wrap this intervention with I'd like to say congratulations on your promotion Tony well I haven't been here for a while thank you around it's just a general keep up the good work for all of you guys and especially to Steven because I was speaking to Hayatou about this after he was on the weekly you need to do a video man we we've been talking about this we think it was so cool you know what I need to get this a legit camera cuz I am rocking I don't know how I looked you guys I'm probably in like hvga coming through here oh no dude you look 8-bit it's fine love it lovely lovely 8 bits in man you could you could make an 8-bit video dude you could be on the eighth day is all in on the Ouya it's fine hey we got a new year going we'll see what happens and I guys I have one last question for you just just very quick question which Moto G are you getting the original moto g or the google play edition Google's when I if anyone's right as I pressed it I'm like wait he can't nevermind just ignore that question but it's essentially the same phone it's got the same bands as the google GOOG I mean I'm kind of the most exciting thing about it is they is it the motorola sister that has all the the special modem for driving and sleeping and stuff like that that's the X the driving doesn't work on the Moto G yea though the exists app is there but it's only like half implemented tria I mean that's great for me because I'm quite on my new job on call so if I just have like my office number i like there and it's like oh these guys can come through and call me at three in the morning to come in for a shift but no one else can like as either like at the moment I had to put cm on my phone for quiet hours like straight-up cyanogenmod for quiet hours does it like yeah I totally understand it's a great thing but if you want to tell everyone where they can follow you on Google+ Twitter Facebook whatever see ya fancy you can get me on twitter at mobile underscored Dom you can circle me on google+ at g + t 04 / domenico lamberti i have a actual custom google one but it's actually longer than that one which is odd and you can follow my work on youtube at youtube com fort /d it's--at why do em and my website which hasn't been updated in awhile is ww mobile hey fandom that Cody UK I thank you and it's good singing again and talking so yes um another live at some point in the future I don't know yeah and we'll we'll wrap up season to you next week we're gonna have a season finale and then we're gonna have a hiatus and when we come back with season three we're gonna switch out the hours again so hopefully we will get more people pissed I hope hopefully like you somehow work around like crazy hours again so I have to let do one from work oh yeah but it's you know it's kind of kind of five-thirty p.m. here it's kind of friday and i wouldn't really want to spend my friday evening as as as much as i love you guys but i already in the club somewhere downtown you know I could never imagine you as a clever and then you just said that and now I can okay good now that we got that out of the way thank you very much for being here please do come back you're welcome oh yeah those drawers behind Tony are just completely full of light sticks really oh yeah yeah yep yep you can just see them addenda night with the glow stick like glasses yeah yes see you guys take care so yeah even please take them or uh see you get some names here vaio Asik names my mouse over you guys rich hey Rex are you doing I meet your mic and say hi not too bad what's going on where are you talking to us from I have no idea how you hear him because I cannot hear him it looked quiet but I can make you that's much better yeah um so uh yeah i'm in florida tampa bay see like the one place in united states is not completely freezing right now this is yeah lucky for you know it's it's well it the Floridians would disagree with you but i'm trying to hurt altered 45 min to user degree yeah so i took on um on facebook i think it was two days ago and it said 50 degrees in florida and had these guys and ski jackets and toboggans and gloves they were like skiing like this was like 50 degrees yeah at the end of the world over here so it's 16 here right now so yeah it's freezing and it's normally he like 30 here at the very least so it's very cold for everybody here I could let that it was still 30 out we're pushing my limits long they supply everyone's in the hoodies is why work mmm but enough of the weather oh what's going on what do you that octave is about today anything on your mind or well the only one real device I'm super excited for but that seems like the dates keep disappearing reappearing and it's nakia so it's the it's the icon because I starting with that I could have guessed like any number of maybe five or six devices we're really looking forward to them we know that's actually when their government is he talking about the gs5 you're talking about the iphone 6 but Diana that milky has been hanging around in the corners for a while now yeah I share the same probably feelings as most people have especially in your guys industry with the Galaxy devices as I'm not a itouch with fan and we'll see what the the new you magazine UX brings if it does come to the new Galaxy devices it looks better on the tablet so on tablet yet but I'm zone yeah yeah I don't know how they're gonna do that but but I mean it seems like this icon is ready to burst practically I I don't know what is taking verizon so long here they're not giving themselves any favors by dragging this thing out yeah did the 928 do something very similar the billboards were an out like you had leaked billboards uh like officially showing this thing it was in magazines before either nokia or verizon would either accept that this knew existed it works best i don't recall it does not sound too surprising yeah what was that back in May that that guy arrived mmhmm yeah um I can't figure it out what's what they gain from putting this off any longer than I have and we were looking forward to this guy back in November in early December i mean i could and mwc launch i mean we have this nokia event coming up here that would be a weird thing to be announced at a networking event I'm very late to the game with this device I mean especially on the cusp of Nokia bringing other devices probably maybe international devices I don't think we'll be seeing too many new major devices here on 80 the 1520 is still a very new phone and it's a great phone so i don't know i don't think anything news going to be coming maybe verizon just thinking this the following way we'll just bring the phone whatever nobody wants anymore that's pretty much what they do with every phone ever met so I look at the galaxy note 2 how long did that take to come to verizon mm-hmm forever forever almost right it came out on verizon like two months before the the note 3 came out so whatever yeah so I'm waiting for that device still I'm really want that device and I yeah everybody likes the Moto X 0 seems that's the general consensus is a lot of people like the Moto X i love the Moto X and I think I've shared that with you guys before um I think the other if you guys saw but somebody accidentally dropped before dot for dot to update for that thing did you not did anybody see yet no I missed that yeah it's somebody accidentally got I don't know if it was pushed accidentally from google servers or how it came out but I have a feeling even though verizon doesn't have a Nexus device the Moto X is going to be the closest darn thing they have to it and probably any carrier has because it's it seems like it's a very well supported device software wise by motorola they're standing by what they said they were going to do and not support the devices to get broken Motorola's really turned itself around a bit I mean maybe not so much well with the droids on on verizon I mean they're getting a lot of who is with the sound effects board there we're getting a lot of a good software support with apps especially with the XM AG those speed these updates are coming out is ridiculous and I think one of those guys wrote about this last week had this is really going to force other manufacturers hands hopefully to step up their own games mm-hmm and I think we need that because people are I mean for as much that Google's done to make fragmentation less of an issue than it's been in years past new focus on everything's a service you don't necessarily need the latest Android to enjoy all the latest Android features there's still this I mean it beats a societal pressure you know the fanboys he wants to have the latest software but you want it and but if other companies can do it Motorola's doing people will respond i think yeah I think that what's helping them a lot is um i'm gonna i'm not going to say that it has something to do with google owning them but i think it has a lot to do with they have a very vanilla ish version of android and i think that is what's helping them the most I think yesterday or this morning I heard that uh the HTC one's are in their certification process right now all the carriers so we should be seeing that very soon I know the g2 supposed to be getting it any month now so I think that's becoming huge focus for OEMs is software support software updates but while we're on normal rolla still what do you think about these rumors that rumors but that the company's been saying it would love to make a fifty-dollar smartphone that's a lot of people are saying that this is you know they can only get away with that because of the Google connection but like you're saying with the updates I I want to believe them that they're not getting they don't have this pipeline to Google a special connection and other manufacturers aren't enjoying so that would mean that they would want to sell this 50 telephone for themselves without some heavy heavy subsidies coming from google it sounds crazy but I mean if it wasn't completely awful would you be interested in something like that I mean because has a backup phone I'm very interest i've been interested in the Moto X and the Moto G on the price that it came out with and I know that there were some corners they cut in comparison to what features they took out from the X yeah but it still didn't lose that much do you know what else could that boy you just hear us as what else they're going to cut again yeah that fifty dollar price point I mean the camera was already dropped the screen still a 720 but i don't know maybe they go to 960 x 540 or i mean i think that the Moto G still is a great phone for emerging markets or and for someone who is on a price or just someone who doesn't want a contract so you guys are not seeing this like I said they're gonna invent a new product on the market is gonna be the burner smartphone oh I mean more power to them if they can but I gotta wonder what is this component i think the display is the big thing that a lot of people are thinking I was going to take the hit to bring the price down now in the radios resolution Oh a little much lower can they go just be GPRS or something I have another 3g well they aren't the Moto G that the Moto G is 3 g.r yeah there's no LTE there no no but you can get hspa+ so I mean it I don't know I don't know I just know that they they could they could cut a lot of corners every time I know if it's gonna be worth it but I go ahead go ahead sorry every time I wonder like well how could you know either so this industry change in any aspect and I think about the iWatch and all these other things that are happy right now and then something changes and I'm like oh that's how they did it so I don't know how they're going to be able to produce this fifty dollar price point phone but if they are going to do it I'm sure they have an angle and it will seem obvious in once they do it like oh you have Morris that was that was how they were always going to do it we knew that um circling back to the software things are sort of part of the argument where some people are saying that because Motorola is part of Google that it has an advantage and part of it is not that it's part of it is the vanilla experience that you get on motorola's phones but the other is what they released I don't remember when it was but it's called the PDK and it is not the the transmission on the Porsche 20 so calm down yeah for a second my heart was racing no it's the the platform developer kit where any partner manufacturer that agrees to Google standards can get in on android update before their official or before they have they pushed the full software update so back when fragmentation was a huge huge issue with the problem was that Google would release the source code and when when it released the source code that's when manufacturer started working towards getting the update out with the PDK it releases versions so betas and Alpha's of the new software updates to manufacturers so they get started on updates before anybody else sees it so so anybody who says that Motorola has an unfair advantage over the other manufacturers if they do it's probably days why I didn't know that existed but that's that's correct that does sound familiar PD that does sound of that that makes a lot of sense and i'm sure that's that google wants to encourage this because they want they will android wants to encourage us because they want they don't want fragmentation yet they can reduce it in any way possible without giving an unfair advantage and that's that's definitely a way of doing it if i remember correctly pdk was announced shortly after google bought motorola so it was kind of a it was kind of obvious move so to say hey we're not going to give motorola an unfair advantage this is what we're going to do thinking that if if Motorola has a certain advantage which I do believe they do it is similar to the advantage which a nexus phone OEM has meaning that in this particular case LG and Motorola have access to that enormous amount of bank money which Google can sacrifice in order to keep the price down for the Nexus 5 and to keep the price down for phones like the Moto X and the Moto G that's I think the major advantage which I see according to my beliefs yeah Motorola has the advantage of Google's bankroll and there are deep deep deep pockets that's what I'm saying okra motorola itself is on the upswing i forgot the actual figures but some recently quarterly report Motorola's turning a I don't they're losing money or just or losing less money or making money but their profits are turning around so maybe they will be self-supporting yeah I think what the MU X launched q3 was it and that put a lot of momentum to order for Motorola and I think you know this is going to be I think this is going to be the big turnaround year for motorola okay let's wrap it up slowly rich I'm locking my camera on you because I see that you have your twitter handle right there yep is there any social media which you use and which you would like to pimp out um I did Instagram is the same it's a be us I XB b and that's it cool well thank you very much really yeah thanks for having on always a pleasure come back whenever you have time and you feel like it alright thanks guys take care take care ok see you i wonder when we're gonna get someone who's pimping their social media thing for one of these not bizarre but the Liza well what's the one that's big in brazil that google has orchid or something mmm i'm not sure but i'm still waiting for thats person who's waited for the way bill and Weibo yeah i'll have been waiting for someone to tell me to add them on Friendster myspace look me up I pick somebody I maybe you're lucky maybe they'll add you on Yandex on what you'll even know what it is it's the Russian Yahoo oh oh of course of course and I'm gonna go with rod because he held up his phone when we were talking about the weather and it said negative 20 degrees Celsius in that is cold what's that sound cold it's not real no is real cool regular 26 years very light it's negative 4 degrees Fahrenheit 20 degrees o- good friend Ellen Google now Google doesn't understand negatives so how are you run a burning guy other thought what was it yeah also everything guys I'm great it's it's cold here and looking at its it's great I'd be obviously tired but other than that I have no complaints okay look except for my except for my jacked-up Moto X thanks brandon google minus 21 but it's wrong down there one is minus 90 degrees that's rough that is very rough do you have any questions for the team here first yeah probably these are little old news but i want to ask you guys you know something about the black phone what kind of specific issues coming in that bomb no I cover that press release and at the moment of the press release there were no information regarding the internals of the black phone but we are waiting to meet up with the guys in Spain in Barcelona for the mwc and hopefully we'll be able to tell you more but I do also think that there was on their site as well as on the press release a link where you could just sign up for future details regarding the phone okay okay that's good and I think suggested a you guys post a picture of supposed to be the new Galaxy find the background the faculty phone yellow-crowned ah personally when I don't like I don't know what you guys think about that back size of the palm uh I talked about it earlier I think it's fake okay yeah ramiz ugly yes Steven I think agrees with me on that it I'd took a screenshot of the screenshot and kind of circled some areas that look fake like all the jagged edges around the sides and the camera cut out and everything like that it's really jagged and just doesn't look real good what does it mean that the whole thing is fake that doesn't mean that there aren't colored Nexus 5's but those renders were not real at least the the celluloid I took away from one of the complaints was there's a video of it and the guys clicking through the various color options and the URLs not taking to reflect the color options like it should be yeah okay that's good to know yeah so I'd love to see a red nexus 5 I mean I love red all the things but I don't think that will I don't know prefer the Goblin yeah I went red and black on my Moto X I I'm right there with you how come you still got the imei sticker on there oh I don't know I still talk with that I'd like keeping the finish fresh underneath this fair no I don't miss budget just have to take it off I don't know thank you now when i got mine I was worried that that wasn't something you could take off because it's really really flush and there wasn't like an obvious way to pull it up like should I be pulling this off am I gonna ruin this thing is to be nice keeping the qualcomm 4g stickers on my samsung phone do you remember the the HTC One X it's imei sticker on the back seam a picture of that it was bad like it was this giant ugly not even square picture urgh or sticker that came on the back of it I don't see it anywhere but it said inside the box that said peel the sticker off ins and keep it and nobody feel it I peeled it off immediately it was ugly it was hideous but I don't see it anywhere yeah well okay gentlemen let us slowly move on okay guys hmm thank you don't you say the next week is the last one will have the season finale yes and then we're gonna go on a hiatus I yeah I got that word right finally and we'll be back after mwc sometime around midnight okay cool thank you you have more nouncement sand blings on pocket now and all the social media channel so you even miss it okay so guys thank you see you after thank you for being here thanks for joining us thank you I'm really quickly I found a picture of that imei sticker let me know that is a biggie yeah it wasn't even square it was just they like close yeah so the first thing I did was rip that off but you got to in the box so all they will never eat again you can put one back yeah Steven please back to you hey how about the role here I love those gigantic hands on your ears their total noise isolation how's it going good good can you turn up your mic a little bit you're a tad quiet on our end here yeah yep I don't know what to do that actually no it's good algonquin yeah okay make its meaning and closer did uh so what's going on where are you Colin Colin chatting with us from what device are you raucous all the t's well I'm from I am from Belgium and currently i use a Lumia 920 nice nice what's up Belgium so that's where we saw those uh those leaks of crap was it I totally blanking what phone just had those leaks from the retailer and Belgium like two days ago Oh wasn't that the so-called golden algae no no no no it was three orders for a looza dip my tongue I've got nothing helicopter it'll come to me anyway uh what's going on well as i understand that nokia has a issued Mobile World Congress invitations but what do we do 3 neo by the way note 3 neo is it was on pre-order okay sorry continue but wouldn't it be Microsoft by then already I mean mobile in February that's a very good question we were kind of hoping that that announcement of the finalization of the deal would have happened by now because both companies released their quarterly earnings statements yesterday and the way that Nokia talked about it devices and services division was going to be formally label has discontinued from as of now so it's kind of in this up in the air state I mean we're expecting like herself to say this is a done deal Nokia's part of us we're going to be making the phones going forward listen this is still possible in this scenario which I'm going to tell you now is completely idiotic but but possible maybe Microsoft will have a booth at mwc showing off the new Microsoft Lumia phones and nakia will show off the Asha phones and whatever is left the left of Nokia that is possible it will never happen but it could work out like this Microsoft gets a Shinto yes I thought so too and there's that wouldn't what is still able to use the Nokia branding on HS but not on Lumias yeah yeah that is true it's correct it's a complete mess at the moment so I'm not sure they know what what what's going on probably not Steve Ballmer's just jumping around screaming nokia and and that's really all that's happening at Microsoft right now yeah maybe they're holding off on the end of deal no females but to do kind of like a simultaneous with the new CEO supposedly that means is coming as well hmm it's true I just wonder what meet us under the tree means yeah trying to find some hidden meaning in that but it wasn't clicking you don't unique their booth have no idea what it means it is nigga theme of mwc this year it's like this there is the tree of innovation or something maybe their entire booth will be like an inside like inside a tree a giant fake tree memories are reminiscences from vegas casinos Taylor they had fries you can walk through in the casinos no oh but giant everything and uh events trees fake trees like everything is a yes yep even the people are fake there but I have a question for uh I think it's real rule pronounced like in English is just picture my name like this are you le then you're like you you rule Annette okay so a question for you are you looking forward to seeing any specific phones from Nokia being a windows phone user and asking about nokia would there be a phone which you would love to see on the mwc show floor well what I really would like to see but that's never going to happen it's my perfect combination of everything nokia windows phone and it is a well a Lumia 925 design with a 5.3 inch screen and 42 41 megapixel camera on the back that's no no I'm gonna drop the camera you gotta drop the camera yeah but I would be awesome what about those 15 20 v AK 1520 mini rumors i imed i mixed the had mixed feelings about those but what do you think about those uh well like I read the article and like like you said I'd really don't think it's real as well but I don't know it would be a nice device although I wouldn't really see the logic you know in releasing such a fundament we'll have to wait and see under the tree yeah I'm most curious about the tablet rumors because it seemed like for a while we were following a possible smaller like an 8 inch air tablet from Nokia and then the end of the year it started sounding like that fell apart for one reason or another would be Microsoft didn't want to see this device or some reason to felt like it was being shelved and now it's back in the rumors for a possible reveal at mwc I mean what do you think with an eight incher be a nice complement to the 2520 or really need a proper phablet I mean besides the 1520 but something maybe in the six things like a mega type of Nokia what do you think hmm well I'm not sure it probably it would be an RT tablet so Marie not interested that's kind I mean Artie's gotten better this year but you're right it's still not the flexibility yep all windows that's also the reason why I didn't buy a 25-20 because I really wanted a Windows Device I win a regular windows no windows phone mm and I was looking forward for a Nokia's hardware because over you had a Lumia phone but I went with the surface pro 2 which i'm using now right by the way because it's going to buy 20 is RT yeah really um I was just reading some speculation on what under the tree might mean and I think it's a long shot but somebody was saying that it would have the next film would have photovoltaic cells on the screen oh yeah yeah i saw that pop up multiple one photo charging solar solar panels on this gonna happen mark my words january 24th never gonna happen it's one of these things it's like never you can you say never listen dealer here's all the demo technology for the solar charging on phones is is there technically it's possible it wouldn't be a huge phone it wouldn't be there's there are no speed bumps and still nobody has thought of it why because most of the times our phones are in our pockets that's true not nay wanted that I mean most of mine if I sit down my phones are on the table yeah they're seeing seeing light but I think for me like it or if not for me for for the sake of the technology I think it's kind of a thing where instead of it your battery dying and draining when you're not using it if you just sit it on the table or somewhere said it somewhere where it's seeing sunlight it doesn't necessarily charge but it doesn't die so it kind of this little kind of levitation of battery our status like like they had a solar phone back I don't know what it was but it was a the Puma phone I can't remember who made it was a manufacturer that I don't ever like I've never heard of him before that or after that but they made the Puma phone and you could turn it up side down lay it on the table face down when you were using it and or like if you're like listening music and it would slowly slowly charge yeah guys it down for that let me down for that right and you're repeating my words I'm marking it no I think it's one of these things like flexible displays where it's been popping up in these expose for a while now it doesn't seem very practical we're looking at a technology and we're thinking okay that's cool I don't really understand how it's going to make my phone that much better it seems like a pain in the ass to implement so it's probably never going to happen in the commercial device and then boom last year we get the g flex and the galaxy round so maybe this is a year when the solar charging actually happens in a way that makes us take notice and say maybe this isn't such a a weird niche feature here and it's something that could actually see success I think the key is going to be how how the actual cells are implemented because no one likes just the look of solar panel on a phone it's on the back it's going to be weird looking and if this rumored integration with the the screen somehow how would the charge transparently you wouldn't even notice there was a solar panel embedded in the screen that would be awesome I don't think we've seen a demo of that yet I don't think I've seen a transparent solar panel ever know and that's sort of I mean just from a physics standpoint you wonder how a transparent panel could possibly be absorbing the photons needed to convert into electricity so sure a lot of proving needs to be done but I don't think we should dismiss this just yet Tony woods benefit for for the state in which the technology is right now oh yeah yeah yeah I'm saying never know it'll happen if middle is it not it never like not not in the next 25 years yeah not this year and most definitely not next year not by my world congress no not at this good so under the tree it's probably not photovoltaic cells in a poem but okay rule we will have to slowly wrap it up as we're getting close to the one-hour mark and we'll getting away the last call so in case you have any final thoughts or questions please by all means no but really it was a pleasure to be here thanks for coming by can people say hi on the social media they want to get in touch with you uh well I hope they can spell it but my my username on twitter is are like the first letter of my first name and then my last name behind it directly behind it fan i can written v.v a n.e why kan perfect Oh aren't great thank you very much for being here and you come back I will take care thanks for joining us see you see I'll take I'll take the last call because I'm a jerk like that so let's talk to uh Patrick I haven't seen you around please unmute and talk to us and and he left yeah oh yeah away just here to watch if today is not my day ok let us talk to you David we have to first unmute your microphone I can try to do that for you oh yeah hello yes we can yet can you hear us yeah cool where are you from I'm from google this is C again bosnia-hercegovina from Bosnia Rosanna close to me how are you today and what do you want to talk about Oh talk about David hold on just one second because your audio is breaking up I'm suggesting that you should probably kill your video too bandwidth so that your audio comes through oh let's try to look if you hover your mouse pointer over your look you got now let's try to go I won't talk about the new Nexus than that and the awesome the new Nexus 10 acclaim one we then DF for and yes four and five and yes five okay that all I don't be moved three we're here okay so well while you I got the thing phone or your thoughts I will tell you this I'm not sure whether L dartmoor dozen is is I don't know playing us or considers us fools I'd like to think so we've seen so this elder guy has accurately predicted the galaxy s4 launch last year in February for March 14 in New York and now he claims that the galaxy s5 will be launched on februari 23rd in Barcelona which by itself is an information which I do not believe because Samsung left the show floor like to galaxy s's before and chances are that they won't come back because the unpacked event can really back any venue around the world so he tweets that and the next day he says that you know what because of the leak samsung reconsidered now I don't tend to believe it what do you guys think oh I haven't even been following it to be honest like if I'm gonna be completely honest I haven't um I'm not even gonna try to comment on that I think little are shown as overseas I you know launch it in WC I'm with Tony on this one I can't see this happening not this soon not with so many other things going on I think it will be a premiere at nwc s and then really like in April well why did why do you think it will come back to mwc because the first galaxy s but didn't really matter galaxy s2 was launched as and at mwc then the S free went to London and the s4 went to New York why do you think the s5 will come back to mwc because of the sales of the s4 and they want to hype it no they're having those rumors that Samsung matter to me who put it in April oh this might be a perception issue but in my mind having a new phone at a show will expose it to less buzz than having a special event between shows yep I agree we've seen Samsung HTC Apple corolla apple I mean everybody has moved away from this trade show announcement thing at least in the mobile space it works remember to 925 event from London well even the 920 event or the 901 yeah they they get a lot more exposure because you don't have 50 announcements in one day you have one or two or three and they're all from one company and just you get a lot more exposure from the press from anybody who's interested and everything it's easier to keep up with I think it's weird that Google's the one company has taken this to the mean DV times a logical conclusion but once that asked removing yourself from the expo then removing yourself from the individual show Google's just releasing devices and not even caring to make a big stink about it what it happens yeah that's that's some serious ego moves right there yeah they don't they don't even put the money into into having an event they're just like oh oh yeah we did launch that yesterday we forgot to tell you yeah but you know you want your buy it anyway so yeah just because we don't agree with you it doesn't mean we're trying to be jerks it's just that we really don't think that the industry is is moving in a or Samsung within the industry is moving towards mwc I would be happy because I would not have to travel to London again sometime during summer for the event what I London is lovely in summer come on Michael wouldn't have to put up with tap dance and Tommy again in New York yeah will be much much better than the note 3 or somewhere there it will definitely be a better phone than the s4 it will also be incrementally better than the note 3 the rumors are speculating on a Snapdragon 800 the new Exynos processor whether if it will be 64 bit or not we can only speculate on it'll be a kick-ass phone it will also have most of it specs present in the note for you guys left the way Samsung operate after after CES when we did recounts of the stories that you know we cover of the things that we saw we didn't really get a chance to talk about the rumors that didn't happen though and I was expecting a lot more XO knows news at CES they put this big teaser and we never got an announcement a major shift of this hmp be activated in the existing Exynos 5 so maybe we aren't looking forward to you know this crazy hot new X and O's for 2014 being in the s5 or maybe that's where he give the X dose announcement alongside the gs5 but I thought that was weird maybe Samsung isn't moving quite as quickly as they would like to so I have a little experience with Samsung Exynos so not just Samsung Exynos is a company within samsung called samsung exynos and they invited me to this private event two years ago my first year at CES they invited me to this little exclusive in da I had to sign NDA's I had I couldn't say a word about it and they invited us into this room they were like we're going to show you the new Exynos and I was there with maybe five other other writers from other sites and they invited us into this room they said we need you to sign this in da hold on don't sign that we're going to print out another one we have a difference in da for you design and we signed it there were like oh we also need you to sign this in da and it was supposed to be like a 20-minute event it ended up being like an hour and a half and we finally walked in the room we got in the room and everything was under wraps and they were like yeah we decided we can't show you any of the stuff all of this is under wraps so you can look at our existing products did you needn't wait here are you like instantly like hey this is the NDI side yeah this is like what am i doing like oh my gosh you invited me I waited an hour and a half for you to change your mind and show me stuff that already exists you know this actually was this was a prank Qualcomm playing on you guys yeah it had been like it was awful like two miles off the strip it was just the most annoying thing and and and finally like they admitted there like we're not ready to release this product debt and I figure that's probably what's happening right now or at least happened at CES why we didn't see anything from X and O's but we were expecting stuff from Qualcomm Tegra which earned nvidia which we got a new Tegra and then yeah and then uh Exynos and we got in video so i don't know but i dunno i wrote a piece on the galaxy s5 a few days ago i think it might have been one last week I don't know all my days when she did all my days run together I don't know these things but uh I wrote it and it was what we're hoping for what we're wishing for and rumored is four gigabytes of RAM um I knew a new design language which 4 gigabytes of RAM is insane but a new design language so they're saying that it'll probably still be plastic but samsung said that they're trying to get away from the hyper glaze and make it a higher quality cover they said it's all about the cover and the user experience and software so that's what we'll probably see in my mind there is absolutely no doubt that the foe stitched leather thing from the note 3 and from the new 2014 tablet lineup will be there on the s5 I wouldn't like that I wouldn't mind it the evidence i love the lower we'll see yeah the black one that feels so much better than the white one though yeah like what it's really like real leather yeah and this one doesn't feel like it's it's like plastic well yeah I'm I'm really surprised how good our sponsees are getting cuz they look just she as hell I think they must be whole hot better than they look fun oh Jesus it feels better than hyper glaze yes but this day if hyper glaze looked good if you didn't touch it this looks a little bit bad even if you did does that make sense yeah so so hyper blaze is it feels slimy so if you're hain't like in the summer if your hands are a little ball me or anything and you pick up the galaxy s4 it feels absolutely nasty imagine using some hand cream with it like that's why i don't use lotion because i used to so many cell phones but I'm solution because I'm a man yeah true we're yeah all right whatever you tell me that next year when you're in Las Vegas if you come too much and you will arm down my chapstick again I will not do that that's why you guys all got the same disease perhaps yes again tomorrow we didn't share chapstick but the Tony refused to use it because as greatly should as right he shot his lips were the color of my coat and he was like don't make me laugh don't make me laugh unless you wanted a bloody hands on experience yeah um ok let's let's slowly wrap it up before getting back to David if you think didn't you go to get through lunch oh yes fine yeah that's a strong possibility yes I'm expecting the galaxy gear to to be at mwc or if not that mwc shortly after but with in q1 or Cuba ginn of Q tube it has people didn't didn't an executive go on record and say the galaxy s5 will launched with the new Galaxy gear I don't remember that but I do remember them saying that they are already working on it because yeah Alexa gear is not ripe yet or it's like green vegetables hurry executive said the galaxy gear sucks sure yeah but the vegetable thing is that i can get quotes great so we know pretty strongly that this galaxy gear 2 is coming we haven't heard though a lot about what might change what sounds was thinking of doing differently and that's gonna have an improved camera wait was there a placement I like that wrist melted like a wart yeah exactly it's an abscess it's not natural okay David any other questions oh let it be Nexus then we'll be away yet oh that's Stephen sir he's excited about the nexus 10 he wrote I don't know like I know I effort I mean last fall I was saying Google doesn't need a new Nexus 10 the nexus 10 still has decent specs it's not tell her what are you manipulating there oh very distracting I'm just holding a speaker it was the same here after fitting a speaker like this one then yeah it's a is it not is it not a good speaker oh yeah it's pretty driver sorry room yep I don't believe any of these renders we saw the nexus 10 recently um no back in the fall there was this debate is Samsung doing this is a sous doing this I'm leaning towards if there is going to be what it's going to be a samsung but there's been no strong indication that this is coming I mean at all if even soon it's just up in the air at this point until we see something new I can't make any prediction either it's going to happen though probably by summer or I wouldn't count on it happening until end of the year what about the asuste nexus 8 work about the Intel David if you can repeat that last sentence do you think it will replace the nexus 7 you necessary oh absolutely if whenever the nexus 8 comes out it will be a natural evolution of the nexus 7 2013 maybe they might be available in parallel for for some time but it will definitely place it really i could see google keeping both around we see companies like Samsung brias 7-inch and 8.3 inch tablets I'm gonna be a big Nexus lineup Steven like yeah or nexus 5 nexus 7 Nexus eight Nexus 10 yeah sometimes it feels like Google's really trying to build up the Nexus lineup it you know it m's and flows it feels like it's getting big and then we don't get this new Nexus 10 like we were expecting and now we're thinking maybe they're ruining things a little bit what if I don't have a good sense of how big it should be what was that what if if they were if what if the nexus 8 will replace the nexus 10 yeah I could believe that but you they need they need a nexus 5 through 10 I've said they're getting line is they're getting close yeah I don't know what happens in two years to their smartphones after we get the nexus 6 you're on this year what are they gonna do in the fall of 2015 maybe iteration like Android 6.1 6.2 there yeah the nexus 7 becomes a foam and yeah oh gosh I I hate like number steamed like numbered naming schemes like Nexus 5 like it's such a there's no foresight to it like them bad like this is a great name and then like next year the lake that it wasn't such a great name all is well for what it's worth it's that I preferred the Nexus 5 and I'm thinking back of the good old verizon samsung galaxy extraordinary whatever 10 word names they were using sprint HTC yes 4g LTE what LTE wimax David thank you very much for being here if you want to tell people work and want you on either of the social media outlets which you want to pimp out you can find me on facebook and google+ at david i love DJ n and twitter and on instagram its dividend hardy je and but everything forget it awesome thank you very much for being here and please do come back we're here the time and with that i'm gonna ask my dear colleagues whether they want to wrap this up with some final thoughts um all i have to add is that i think i'm gonna run home really quickly because my new mic just it just was just delivered i ordered it like 12 hours ago oh man isn't delivered did it did it come with a drone it must have like literally ordered on amazon and checked saturday delivery yesterday at yesterday night and it wow it was delivered two hours ago well Mike are you getting the meteor mic so the samson meteor mic I love this Yeti but it's big and does not travel well see I am looking to upgrade my mic as well you karaoke revolution Mike put in a plastic cup is like I am painfully needing to upgrade and Michael was talking to me last night with his advice I might go with the blue the ball thing the stove audible Noble or a Yeti you can mess with those I'm kind of getting a real Mike with like an XLR connection so i can use it for other non you know podcast e hang out things so hopefully i will sound better in the future but one way or another hoping you take care of that blue spark is a good choice just two hundred dollars yes these guys will never stop talking no we're just uh shamelessly thank you very much for watching I think this was episode 12.5 because if whatever we had at the beginning and I'm hearing my echo so I'm gonna meet somebody and we will be back next week with the final episode of season two then we're gonna have a hiatus we're gonna go on a hiatus we're gonna have a break and then we're going to get back with season three towards mid and March thank you very much for being here I've been Anton joined by Taylor and Stephen everybody have an awesome awesome weekend stay safe and we bucket now till next time take care yeah see you later come on dudes as I
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