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and it seems that we are live good afternoon to most of you good morning to some of you I think that it doesn't even apply to good morning good night to some of you actually in certain parts of the world google i/o has just finished and our editorial roundtable is something that just must happen you guys want our opinions over everything that we saw and that's what we are here for and we've got a ton of coverage Joe leave i just posted a full editorial on the 5 top things that come with Android M in addition all the news are already live you can follow us on pocket now and make sure you get that information everything is social as well and you can expect the pocket out daily to bring you more details today later I will do a full google i/o edition of the show and yes of course our pocket now weekly will go in depth with everything that we saw so right now this is going to be a quick 30-minute roundtable that focuses just on the top stuff the news and obviously the QA is enabled for every one of you to provide your feedback or whatever things you would like to cover but obviously we can't cover everything in a 30 minute video so we will try to do our best to do this let's start with a roll call starting with mr. Hayat Huesman contributing editor one of our new editors and team how are you I'm good are you doing great doing great as well so good so good to have you we also have the very special crius edition of mr. Joe Levi senior editor how are you I'm doing very well but it's very hot it's very hot okay we will try to keep this short and sweet then obviously we also have our editorial director mr. Michael Fisher so good to talk to you again sir wonderful to be back on a panel full of you know general generic white tech guys we just finished another round of hiring a pocket now and well we tried ladies that's all I will say lovely to see you gentlemen again and let's talk to Liam your American Michael so hey so my joe what a coinkydink i didn't know that all right over here I'm not even gonna talk about our our newest addition to the pocket now team but actually something that's been with us for the longest of time is true you Jules warm how are you I am good right now I'm at the station w GRS we are playing XTC uh sense is working overtime I feel exactly that way right now good good and nothing that beer can't fix chief news editor mr. Stephen J how are you again I really well I never got that I've got my full of Android M news so also under firing and yeah you're actually going to start this off how about we tell everybody what we just got what I enjoy them starters are to interrupt esteem but before you jump right into that Jules can we get you to mute your mic well while other people are talking cuz that that station music is gonna just drive me nuts all day as well I guess it is I'm in the music sir sard override you there host this this sounds like that specific moment when Michael is tearing up removing the plastic film for my phone is like silence foods that's right good episode 150 of the pocket that we soon to the surprise of absolutely no one we got our announcement of Android M today the preview release is out now gugus made downloads available for the nexus 5 Nexus 6 Nexus 9 even the nexus player if you're into that whole Android TV thing sadly not the nexus 7 we have moved on in the tablet world but let's get right to features we heard a lot of these rumored in the past weeks and months a lot of them were confirmed here one of the big ones especially for me is new granular app permissions first of all permissions aren't going to be approved when you install an app for the play store instead the app itself is going to ask you about these permissions as you go to use them for the first time so if you're not you're trying on all the features of a nap initially you might not approve everything all at once if something comes up you want to send a text message don't ask you if it can do that you'll give it's your approval or not and then later on you can go back and revoke certain approvals or grant ones you may have denied initially in app settings these are going to be writing for new apps built with the Android SDK old apps will keep the old way of doing permissions for now presumably as they update and start being coded for Android in particular we'll see this new support arrived this is you know we had the old a pops thing several generations ago was kind of half-baked so they've really formalized this it looks like it's going to be pretty graceful with apps it was able to deny permissions without them failing in weird unexpected ways so if you're a you know privacy enthusiast great news there there's a change of how links are going to be handled within the system uh Google really doesn't like it when you click on a URL and doesn't know what to do with it it's asking you to an open this in a browser if you want to use a specific app to open it so going forward with Android M absolutely able to claim certain kinds of links the great example they gave in the presentation was Twitter you click on a tweet length isn't sent to you in email or a text or something the system will know to open it directly in the Twitter app rather than loading the Twitter web page in the browser and there's no indication system where apps will be able to verify that they're the ones who should be opening this so it won't go somewhere unexpected and if it works as well as Google promise it should all be pretty darn graceful we have improvements to battery life there are some new tools to extend the battery life of devices if they're sitting unused for a long period of time the system will take advantage of accelerometers detect when a device is just sitting there being wholly unused versus you know carrying around you might be checking it occasionally and if it's been in sleep mode for a while you're not touching it it will start checking things online with less frequency so once sync is often your apps won't necessarily be immediately up to date when you go to pick up the device but as a result it will stretch the battery life super far I think Google said we might even see double battery life depending on what your app music situation looked like mm by mode yeah yeah they did to in side-by-side right right if you're not a big heavy social user you might your mileage may vary there but it has the potential to deliver some big improvements we heard about some improvements to Google now including is exciting now on tap thing that will let you do these really great contextual queries from within apps so if you are you're watching a movie or you're looking at a picture in a nap you might be able to just click and hold question hold on the home button have google now pop up and just asking where was this taken Who am I looking at tell me something about the artist playing this song and Google will be able to pull information out of the app to figure out what you're talking about then give you the information based on the question you asked hopefully really really smoothly it sounds like we won't be able to have to wait for apps to be refreshed with this important mind the sort of in-app search Google already uses to generate search results inside of apps will be extended for the use of now on tap we have android pay has been confirmed this is the next generation of android wallet one of the big differences here is that it's going to be baked right into the OS such that you don't have to manually pull up an appt each time you want to do a payment so no longer clicking a wallet entering in your pin and then tapping and paying so long as your phone is woken up and you entered in your your unlock code when when waking device from sleep you can just tap on NFC reader no matter where you are in the system and it should make that payment straight away it's not clear yet how that will work work at all for people who don't use lock screen so that includes myself I'm a little worried but hopefully we will learn more about that in the future android pay also has an API to allow apps to offer this kind of tap and pay support directly within and a fingerprint scanning we have heard that finger prints before but be baked into the OS and that's been confirmed you can use up to authenticate Android pay as well as apps we will use that for their own internal authentication and there's been some suggestions that as a result of this we might see a fingerprint reader built into the next Nexus phone or phones as you leaving hearing but that remains to be seen uh there are a lot of code changes but that's sort of dev focused and outside our purview here some little things they mentioned about changing how text is highlighted copy and paste should work a little bit better and a volume controls getting an overhaul it was kind of completely borked in android l lollipop they tried to improve this and it ended up using a lot of users so for every damn look to be look for it to be more straightforward as well as giving you really convenient roll over individual ringer app volume sliders you get everything just where you like it I think that hits all the major points here am I forgetting anything that you guys heard mentioned I know I jewelry yeah that's what I'll talk about go ahead go here Joe so that's the majority of what we saw with Android M there were some other things announced that that tie into Android that are particular to Android M like photos that we'll talk about later android auto and whatnot but as far as Android M goes this looks like it's going to be a very iterative release it's not going to be very very major we've talked about the highlights of what we're going to see a lot of a lot of what we saw I mean android pay compared to Google Wallet the functionality is essentially going to be the same from my experience because i've been using google wallet for a lot so it's more a rebranding and an optimization and i think that that sums up what Android M is it's taking everything that we had and just tweaking it making it a little bit better to see if I can pull out the quote here I don't have it on tap but Android M is all about quality and everything has been really aided that was David vice president of engineering yeah a conscious decision to focus on quality and to end a focus on product excellence squashing bugs and rethinking core aspects yeah the emphasis there is end to end they made the implication that this was a ground-up relook at the code base so i would say that Android M is probably going to be 5.2 rather than 6.0 but with an end-to-end approach we might see a full sick point bump it's a possibility we'll see we'll see I mean and what do you guys think will be the final name I actually asked we're gonna hold together I just saw a interesting theory on this but they were zooming in on during the Android wear announcement I forget the name of the guy who was on stage there but his watch some people thought that they could see a milkshake on the on the wallpaper there so the watch face there so maybe Android milkshake who knows and real good around the campus a lot of people are using macadamia nut cookie that's what's being used on the Google campus I'm all for marshmallow but I think we're probably going to end up with milkshake milkshake stented beat in Cambridge there were only sugar cookies so I cannot be of any assistance and figuring out there's no no am in any of that with our macadamia nuts in the cookies man I'm aware of that that's the thing that's sort of going on a limb I mean we've seen Google use the three word desserts or its internal code names you know and then you have ice cream sammies and then you have ice cream sandwich would would be like like the perfect example I guess and we're going to talk about Android wear later because probably what's most shocking about those new Steven that close up is that Android wear was really just Android wear and we'll talk about that later yeah it wasn't that big of focus is reminding us where it's come but we didn't really hear a lot about where it's going what's next compared to last year when we not only got the information about the first Android wear device is going for sale we saw the Samsung gear live announced for the first time ever so this was a much lower key as far as wearables go now it when it comes to android there was an announcement of Android you know expanding its reach two years ago we we saw Android be announced for products like lamps light bulbs and stuff that can really take off it was pretty much a prototype that never left that stage unless I'm wrong Joe do you know anything about that again I thought you're referring to Android at home and that we saw a we saw an SDK that came out and a clock that was based on it but that was about it it fell off the map so you're getting into brillo and and into what is it don't we've we exactly and protocols week yeah yeah so google just announced something called Project brillo and this is really the company's stripping down Android and making it usable to things that are not that don't need a smart operating system like a smartphone or tablet but really let's say a smart light bulb a smart oven a smart refrigerator whatever you want to call it and project brillo is really that core operating system that's going to be used to power these products and what's cool about this is that you know it is extremely efficient it doesn't really require a specific silicon apparently it is it has a broad silicon support it's very easy to secure it it has very minimal requirements and what Google is doing is that they're launching a new guy i would say code or i don't think it's a code but it's called weave and it's pretty much the common language that will be used between products within project brillo to communicate with each other so for example you can determine it as a communication protocol yeah it's communication protocol and so the way the way this would be is you this like for example you could be writing a recipe on your tablet or your phone and through your smartphone you will be able to turn on your oven and make it work and actually apply certain of these things up through and apparently we've is going to be the communication protocol between all these products so it does seem that Google wants to make the Internet of Things something hot they're really focused on getting this done we've seen Apple work on home kit for a little bit and obviously to see how the stacks up against home kit efforts exactly exactly so we we really don't know with the problem is that that announcement lasted for like three minutes so we really don't have details on on how this is going to work but we do know is that the developer preview of brillo will be available in q3 2015 and the stack for we will be available in q4 so later this year we will learn more about this and probably in CES 2016 will see the android-powered toaster that michael has always wanted to have the one thing that I got out of this from a developer standpoint is weave is that communication protocol it will be able to run on brillo but it is not tied to brittles you're not going to have to have a brillo powered device to be able to use we've as your your common language that the biases both the controllers and the devices themselves used to intercommunicate so we could see stuff powered by Arduino or stuff power by anybody else that can tap into the weave protocol and those devices won't have to be powered by Android brillo and if I'm if I'm not mistaken leave is also cross platform yeah yeah by definition it's it's a cross-platform protocol this is going to be absolutely key to any kind of success with Internet of Things you have to make it really easy for the people making this hardware to make it appeal to as many users as possible and to make it as cheap to implement as they can so right now you know you want to buy connected light bulb you're paying a ton of money for that there's no guarantee it's going to work with all your stuff so a standard like this could be really important to seeing adaptation of this really kick off yeah definitely the standard communication that we have right now appears to be either proprietary apps or proprietary services like works with nest as one and believe it or not if this then that seems to be our hub for making all these things talk together so this takes the the third party service you know the requirement that they are connected to the Internet proper and connected to a subscription and know when you're turning your lights on and off and it can put that more local so that your home can know and can do things in about itself without sending that out to the Internet proper right right and well I am I missing anything about project brillo or you guys think we can move on to google now and a little broader scope of everything that we got sure what it's worth I'm I've started looking at my Twitter feed so i think that's an indication like yeah i talked code and Michael goes to Twitter I see how know Jojo it's not you I'm so happy to have you back well take over Michael alright so what am I talking about i'm gonna talk about google now on tap is that is that what the rundown degrees that's awesome i'm so glad i get to talk about something awesome because stephen touch on this a little bit before and like the kind of buzz word of the day we've with regard to this was context which can sound a little a little you know antiseptic exam yes I content well what does that exactly mean Google was doing a little bragging on stage how much data it's managed to accrue over time through its knowledge graph and other services there are apparently 1 billion-plus entries in the knowledge graph everything from you know this is just the name of baseball teams the name of famous actors the location of you know football stadiums or whatever and Google now on tab leverages all of that and Google talked a little bit about its expanded multi-layer neural net it basically just talked about how very smart Google is and how it's getting better at accessing all of that information that it sits on so some of the demos on stage which were I'm going to do my best here this was the director of product management Aparna chin up rugged that China brigata I think she was on stage doing this demo of now on tap and we're now nowadays you you have google now and it's this kind of thing and it predicts what information you want when you want it there's going to be an active component to it you're going to be able to be looking at something on the screen the example they gave on stage was an email about tomorrow land from a friend it's like hey you want to go see Tomorrowland tomorrow you can long press the home button on your Android device and a little pop-up card will not take over the whole screen it will just pop up from the bottom and it will contain it'll it'll search that email for context and it'll say hey Tomorrowland boom there that here's here's the IMDb entry for the movie you're talking about you want to watch the trailer here's a link to that here's just my note says blister but I think that's an autocorrect from flixster yeah here's a flexeril and if you want to if you want to buy tickets for it which is pretty cool and there's a but it gets like weirder and awesomer and if if you're a little more wary of Google's intrusive elements may be a little freakier but it's not freaky because Google is not doing anything new here it's just implementing it differently it's allowing you to call it over the email that comes in after that is can you get the dry-cleaning you forgot to get it also do you want to go to this specific restaurant for dinner which I'll call alia and if you long press the home button BAM you get a card that contains the yelp entry for alia ristorante that a link to call it a google maps link so you can navigate to it and an open table link so you can do it and it will give you a separate card reminding you to get the dry cleaning and it does all this by just crawling the email just like just like Google crawls the internet and looking for context and Jennifer gotta told Ars Technica that the neat thing here and Steven mentioned this is that the app doesn't have to do anything custom for this to be supported that's the reason we wanted to make sure it was based on the platform api the apps don't have to implement anything for the context to be read that is the coolest part about this whole thing for me because it's not going to be like a situation with dual screen on a samsung phone where ya dual window is a lot of fun but only the apps that have have the code implemented are going to be able to use it no it's basically the new google now on tap can read your screen and try and figure out what you want to what you want to know yeah and it's not limited to eyes because it's so far we've been seeing with the new cards coming to Google now there was there been 70 or so new apps that have been supporting these but this has been something developers had to implement themselves with now like half its going to just be this flood gate opening where everything is working with right out of the gate and that's gonna be huge exactly and and it applies to the voice input stuff too they fired up a Skrillex track onstage and she did a really good job of pretending like she didn't hate every sound that was that was coming out of that time oh poor man that was rough but but the and the demo her assistant whose name I don't remember I'm sorry who also helps develop everything said ok Google and Spotify paused and the window came up and said what's his real name and like verbatim that's what he asked what his real name and in fact what we got was a Wikipedia entry and a Google card that said Skrillex his real name is something that I forgot it's cuz really so it's really cool stuff that I'm looking forward to trying out how funny is it though they use Spotify in the demo instead of google play music oh yeah and I realized like that I I think no but I think it emphasizes the fact that that third-party apps are going to be really important to this whole thing and second is it's so refreshing when a company isn't in denial about it I hate it when like Samsung will take the stage and be like yeah you know how when you're using samsung milk and this happens or like no no I don't know how that is nobody so anyway I'm looking forward to Google now on top I think it's gonna be gonna be a hot and and very sexy is it is another hot service that was announced today believe it or not and this is gonna sound ironic because we've been covering rumors of google photos update for the last couple of weeks and uh you know I I've been doing most of the posting about this Thank You Steven and that's like okay so it's just gonna be removed from from Google+ that's gonna be it what's so cool about this you know it turns out to be cooler than than we thought and this is actually to answer mark Washington's question on the QA he's asking if Google+ is google photos the only cool thing actually it's not the only cool thing but it is extremely cool mainly because well first of all it focuses on three different things number one a big wants to become your home for all your photos and videos available number two it wants to help you organize and bring your moments life and number three wants to make it easy for you to share stuff so the way it's going to become the home for all your photos is because first of all it allows you to store in a limited amount of photos and videos that are up to 16 megapixels or 1080p videos that in itself is like okay I don't you know I don't really care if it's great or not but just to have a service it's not going to be eating up space on my computer or phone or tablet is awesome that is just perfect and even better is the fact that this is cross-platform so it works with iOS Android that works on the web i wish there would have been an application for the mac or windows but you know windows was not going to happen in the mac is not announced yet but yeah that's going to be part of it there's a lot of pinch to zoom in the gestures that are available here and the idea is to make it work sort of like the way i OS does with collections where you can zoom in and out of you know months years stays stuff like that other things there is since you mentioned it go ahead can I just say that and somebody can prove me wrong if they want but i don't think google said the word windows on stage wants this entire no reality good yeah which is pretty amazing once know once want you I think they did once in the context of highway just mentioned did they say out the window or something like that the second they might have just been referring to web but but I don't I think they took the ones all right the second thing there ya go ahead guy so so Android photos is the one thing that I took away from that is not just your smartphone whether Apple or iOS excuse me iOS or Android those are two different things by the way it's hot in the car but it's also other devices so if you've got a DSLR if you've got a GoPro if you've got something else Google photos is now your hub for all of your pictures in all of your photos regardless of it came from your smartphone tablet or your your dedicated high-end camera or or you're not powered by Android video camera so it's your central hub and this unlimited number that you mentioned Jaime is free it there is no extra cost to that the the one caveat is you know that the limitations that you listed 16 megapixels and 1080p but they also mentioned that it is a near lossless compression that they're using so you're not going to be getting exactly that image but the compression they're using to enable them to do that is you're not going to be losing much if anything from the original picture up to 16 megapixels know it was you know they showed they showed a demo didn't look that bad at all yeah I look it didn't look any different than the original photo from what I could tell he liked Christopher miles Q&A Android M also allowing backup apps to backup and restore data up to 25 MiG's perhap to Google Drive I was about to I was about to ask that Joe what exactly is that because this is not pertain to photos but yeah what what exactly are they doing here so that's something that I didn't catch but the way android does that presently an app can be written to store settings to store information to store your login information credentials pictures whatever and store that with Google whether that's through drive proper or through the their app storage so that when you restore a device for example you're getting a new device and you want to migrate everything over it's automatically going to pull down all of the apps that you installed before and once you've logged into them whether that's through their proprietary login or through a Google of Facebook Twitter something else through through one of the accounts plugins that's compatible with Android it's going to automatically bring down your settings it's going to bring down your state information that was already there the downside has been that that storage space is relatively limited and from what I understand from this question that's being extended out to 25 meg so you'll be able to have more stuff available there that actually answers one of the questions to my article I sorry I'm not going to not drop your name because that's a different window but the question would ask have they done anything to make the backup process any better this is the way that Android does it and honestly having used apples having used you know back with windows ce e and nandroid this is the best way i can take a generic device log in and be completely restored back to my state including wallpaper and icons and widgets within a matter of an hour or so and it's all fresh it's not a it's not a stale backup it's it's all fresh brought down but that's the thing that's that's currently what I cloud does in a way you can store applications can separately store their stuff on iCloud and and there in a way it's like bringing it on par with iCloud I guess the the way that they're doing it is fundamentally different the result is fundamentally the same right right right ok cool so that that answers that question on the Q&A just to continue with google photos before we lose the scope the second focus of the google photos application is for it to organize and bring moments to life and you know we've seen apple tree right to help you tagged photos in iphoto and in its new google and it sorry its new Apple photos application and help you be able to you know have faces and that determined and filter photos but it seems that google service is going to be much smarter and being able to tag everything without the need of you doing it because that's the problem with Apple servers you have to tag everybody whereas Google is going to do it automatically and for some reason it seems that it's going to be capable of even filtering your baby photos all the way back so you select the specific contact then you can go all the way back to whatever photos you have from that person to whichever photos you have as far back as you do we will just have to give it a try and see how good that is we also notice that there is contact search like for example if you're searching for a baseball game now you're searching for photos of a baseball game it seems that google is able to determine that these specific photos were taking out a baseball stadium and it'll allow you to filter those photos searching for text and that is extremely literally by typing in the word baseball stadium again execs crazy to me and I've said that for a long time I thought that was an opportunity maybe I was rather short-sighted I thought that might be an opportunity for the third party developer to be like oh let me cook up an app that can actually search photos through plain text because I do that all the time they made a great point on stage where you're like yeah oh they're hanging out with friends let me show you this old picture from four years ago it takes I need a half hour to scroll through all this crap Andy is to exact type in a never to be able to type in submarine oh yeah that was cool against VA almost there for the desktop version not quite yeah yeah and and to make matters even cooler going with Michaels point probably sharing was the part that I like the most usually if you want to share a photo with somebody you have to have it locally on your device or share a link or whatever and that person has to download the photo on their device but the way this photos application is going to work is you can select whatever photos you have let's say you select 25 random photos out of your hole out of your whole list and out of those 25 photos it'll generate a specific link read and allow do you share just that and you can either view it a small website with that or if that person uses google photos those can automatically be imported to this google photos application without the need of you downloading or uploading anything just really cool you all need to do things twice and who is beside an airport yeah exactly that's the set of freedom that sorry to go over well so got I'm also getting some feedback from our own audio and somebody's cans are turned up way too loud I don't know whose it is that but anyway moving on Eddie anyway moving on so i think that's that's uh i think that's pretty much it for google photos again it is completely free it should be available today and again if your photos or 16 megapixels or below or video is 1080p or below you can upload this in an unlimited fashion only yes it will have some sort of a loss when it comes to compression yeah i can't wait to see someone worry all down some of those and look at exactly how much quality were losing but it's interesting how you know we are naming this based on the resolution file size I'm sure Sony is just you know looking hanging their heads in shame or shame but frustration over there 20.7 megapixel sensors and all those pixels going to waste now oh man des le the great quality and my 20 megapixel m9 camera is gonna go down now oh oh a burn from the Midwest mmm speaking speaking of burns how about uh hi Otto since you started talking right now how about me tell us a little more about the new maps updates that are coming yeah so the maps are actually really cool because uh so now they're gonna be there bringing off offline we've had ability with maps so that's going to kind of take the same kind of feature from things like Nokia here maps that have the offline features and that's really great for especially people that are either it just in a bad connection area or if you're doing a lot of traveling if you're you know driving across the highway and a lot of time most people kind of tend to drop their their signal there and that they can't navigate to where they're trying to go so you can use google maps offline now you download the the map that you need and it'll still give you the navigation with turn-by-turn voice navigation everything what i think is really cool about it is the fact that you can actually still get the the suggestions while you're searching for something so if I search for you know restaurants on an on a downloaded offline map it'll still give me recommendations and it will even still pull in reviews for those local areas um so it really keeps a lot of the functionality pretty much all the functionality of online google maps which are these connected or not hi i maybe you mentioned this I'm sorry but I've been wondering like how how wide is the scope of that catch zone like when you I mean when do you when you when do you say like all right well I'm gonna be offline for a while so I really need to download a bunch of maps for this region you know um I'm not really sure what the scope is I would assume you just download probably a city at a time or so yeah well I have mosel those previous cool yeah it was yeah it was a sovereign you have to really figure out where I do multiple ones making overlap was a pain in the ass so I'm presuming that this thing is a lot more streamlined and ability and able to capture a much larger area so you're not stopping halfway through your trip and redownloading stuff is one other thing to keep in mind here guys Google just acquired ways and the way that the Waze app has been doing that is when you log in and to you open up your map you're saying I want to go from point A to point B ways is going to go out and automatically bring in that entire trip so where are you going from right now to right there plus a couple different routes plus whatever the currents data is of weather and alerts and restaurants and points of interest along the way it's going to pull all of that to your device as you're setting up that navigation to begin with so if you go offline you still have that information present that sounds a lot like what Google Maps is going to be doing here automatically but it's going to have some way to to enable you to pull that down as well through some some kind of magic offline mode that I still don't fully understand I think it's a habit thing like for example every time did I travel to places I always download the maps automatically and you know because you never know you never know if you will have data connectivity or I guess for frequent travelers that's going to be a good tool to have but again I think it depends on habits mainly yeah other in other cases I mean if you're on a limited data plan and you're reaching your cap is another option just download your map and you won't need to be spending data for navigation yeah I would not be wrong idea as well I also have to wonder about updates you know whether or not hey this business is closed down or late there has to be some sort of way to you know efficiently update a safe level because imagine the pain that would be you know some help getting information you use turned out hey you drove down a wrong you know a wrong way street now yeah and I think we're looking for it's an industrial park now we're well in factory hi correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that currently when you download an app when you download a map it does update itself periodically when you connect to Wi-Fi oh god sea horse I think it does I can't comment on that I would imagine that it will but just for life bility stay but I don't know mechanism that it doesn't yeah yeah again it's something that will have to prove in this map service is going to be available until end of the year later this year no no dates were provided we also got updates for services like Google Play will cardboard I don't know if you want to summarize that quickly Stephen sure we saw the first cardboard launched last year at i/o and for this year why not have the 2nd gen announced google has a new design for the cardboard viewer it's simpler it's compatible with more phones they used to have this NFC or magnet that it used to trigger the button now it's a simple hardware thing designed out of cardboard appropriately enough constructions going to be streamlined there's only three steps to assembly rather a down for 12 and it supports a wider range devices now with those up to screen sizes as long as six ancients so the Nexus 6 will be right at home with this guy third parties will be able to start making their own viewers with these plans immediately google for is giving out the viewers to it and ease of i/o we also learned about an SDK which now has cross-platform support with iOS so you'll be able to use your iPhone to view content design for Google cardboard there's also some new way to create content something called jump on get this wrong as a jump this is all so new it's a special rig that they built where developers of hardware can make a way to automatically record 360-degree content in 3d GoPro is an early partner here and it's going to use a special algorithms to stick everything together but for right now Google cardboard is already having some pretty popular are pretty high popularity this isn't like a million cardboard viewers have been bought by users out there and to push that number even higher you need high quality content so making it easier for people to create this is going to be key to cardboards future growth we also heard about a way for students to access this it's kind of a guided way through cardboard where a teacher can use a tablet and you sort of take classes on a virtual field trip with all the students using their own viewers that you're guiding them along they can look at stuff like they're just there and this you know fits into Google's broader connecting the world strategy here exposing people to places they might not normally see and you know in the months to come we're going to start seeing these new google viewers we're going to get higher quality content out there so a lot of improvements in this field yeah google just killed field trips for kids the other thing that they mentioned there was all of these immersive videos are going to be hosted on YouTube so they're going to use the YouTube channel to to allow people to watch this content rather than creating some new proprietary thing right yeah yeah yeah they've got the whole architecture in place already to make this a big thing it's gonna be cold yeah it's gonna be like that a GoPro knew that new 6 mount GoPro thing that does 3d 16 mount 16 tell really ah yeah now correct me if I'm wrong this is only for emerging markets uh the immersive like field trip thing I don't think it's only for emerging work no no no I think they demoed it with with videos of like I think that was the same section of i/o where they were talking about the Kenyan farmer so there was a lot of that everything that the markets done with it we didn't get to I'm if we're going back to photos for a second or maps and going back to the offline storage they talked about YouTube having offline availability for areas where data connectivity isn't what we would like it to be and we saw a new low data web browsing and search tool that will allow the important content to come through while cutting back on extraneous graphics and making it possible to get a solid google experience out of the web even when you don't have high quality 4G or even 3g speeds so that's going to be important in developing markets yeah all right I I think we pretty much ran down the news and I guess the only thing that's left is really what wasn't news today uh I'm extremely disappointed join me if you do know android wear update and although just none of the other gate honest you know I mean the update came like you know two weeks ago so they took the opportunity to reinstate hey got almost always for that update yeah all of us are still waiting for that update Tony's the only one that has it on what your thing but I what but I guess I guess what I'm saying is Android M was demoed there was no show there's like no Android M version for Android wear like yeah he's on a gentleman schedule you know I mean they did they just like I said they just announced that update right so it's like it's just it's disappointing yeah i agree with you i mean but i wasn't at all surprised with us what version to you 11 you have you have it oh man I got a I got to start running that on my G watch our oh that is my G watch her have to change that's about me i'm good i'm sorry i was just gonna ask if we were hitting any questions before we go because there's one I want to answer if we do please go ahead by all means just this one's from Christopher miles a really good question who asks how will Google now on tap be implemented on phones with physical home buttons such as Samsung the long presses and double taps are already taken so Christopher this is a I don't know how to answer this yet but I will tell you that on the node for which I'm using right now which I'm using again for the purposes of an after the buzz re-review print look the long press is taken yes but it's taken by Google now so I think they will probably just reassign that in the next version and probably Android M will contain some some special allowances for devices running a manufacturer third-party you I'd just sort of force it to do what Google wants because I have a feeling they're gonna really be pitching a google now on tap pretty hard yeah well we'll see about that another question that we have in the Q&A now that you mention it from ivan is asking about nexus devices anybody disappointed here isn't there was a solid chance of us getting evening if we were gonna get any hardware it was going to be Android wear and it was established it's really not interested in this summer time small tablet launch anymore so we're gonna wait till the fall we'll get a nexus phone maybe two phones maybe not a new tablet at all this year but not for a few more months the only thing you can say about the nexus users is I kind of feel I kind of feel like the Nexus phones are gonna feel the left out now with some of the new support that Android M is going to bring like the fingerprint scanner and the and the was the other thing seriously um word will see the fingerprint scan joseph Morgan Nexus hardware well sure but current neck like even the nexus 6 it doesn't have a fingerprint scanner you kind of had a look there and I still don't think the public at large is sold on the the worth of fingerprint scanners maybe android pay will convince us otherwise I don't know I disagree I mean they're on every iphone has been released for the past three years or something like that or two two or three years and then the galaxy s6 and edger only gonna improve on that I mean no I think I think the public is very very much your soul they're just gonna sociate that you know you can put your thumb to critical reader and no hay magic no I don't think this is a massive leap for people i have more faith in people than that i think that everyone's been watching the science fiction fingerprint scanners for my you've been out of the retail business for too long Michael that's a good point we're all making the transition from cash to credit I mean it's start out like sixty percent down to you know whatever in the plastic is like still thirty percent of all transactions I can't even begin to imagine the proportion of you know those wireless NFC um hey man how much they make of the POS yeah well mentioned a lot of new when a retail partners who are going to be supporting Android pay presumably companies will already have contactless readers in place that are supporting apple pay right now and it'll probably just get better as a system as retailers upgrade their systems newer POS models will see broader so it's growing I think it does have a feature I mainly think it does have a feature because of the fingerprint scanning capabilities but for that to work I it's not that they have to do away with credit cards meaning remove the option for users to have an alternate way to pay and be you know and get into some sort of thought that problem through that I but again I feel it it does have a future because of the fingerprint scanning that's just my opinion the problem is I haven't really tested it so I can't really just to throw this out there guys uh the the company that I work for from my day job we're a completely iOS shop as far as mobile devices go every single one of our phones is set up with fingerprint enabled as a security measure so we don't have anything that's unlocked and then it's required that you don't turn that off so from an enterprise perspective and things going forward fingerprints are a very easy way to get security I've already mentioned in articles over on the website why that might not be a good thing but enterprises are going to adopt this payments are going to adopt this it's the future like it or not yeah I think you have a point definitely all this will be integrated into android or Android Michael Fisher as Alex blazes there you go he said yes or no he's a beefcake so a Christian co blazer aquam are more fun Twitter reminded us that in fact internally Android M is known as MNC it's mike november charlie which does lend some credence atheneum macadamia nut cookie yeah so probably at least if history but but but but wasn't that the case with android l it was called lemon meringue pie for a long time and then out of the blue boom yeah hey short until they're able to uh until today was all QR drive with exactly right Joe yeah yeah and until they're able to secure a partnership with the Mars candy company I think we can android Mars and we're back to the 33 word of code words then that is actually not a bad idea Android Mars trade milky way android Milky Way there you go another hog game earlier gentlemen I don't are we missing anything we are just one thing just one thing in this room the last thing I say David singleton I think had the quote of the day the the lead for Android wear with his quote that um what did he say it's it's really cool to check the time doctor checking the time on your website checking the time is a really cool thing it's like yeah okay these said we love watches are Laura are those gonna be our final thoughts Michael or would you like to elaborate on anything else now i'm just i'm ready to I i I'm going to join everyone else who's already written 14,000 think pieces on why Google now on tap is the next big thing but more importantly and I'm about to write about this it is the it is the next thing that's going to it's going to make it easy to explain to people why you have an android phone instead of an iphone as the iphone i could be able to do anything like it and wait it is not good I'm not sure I'm not trying I'm not trying to start one of those things I'm just saying it hasn't been terribly easy to describe why why you carry one platform over another this is going to be a very big talking point when it rolls out if it works right yeah true truths gonna be praised just like this it's gonna be why do I carry an Android watch this yeah yeah exactly right yeah your biggest problem Michael and Joe is called Google because this is the company that launches those exact same tools on iOS eventually that's the problem and then we also have it or can we work on I oh yeah my OS is far too closed for this to function yeah yeah that that's the thing it's that even in that way it's even more important as an Android development I mean we might get the natural language processing improvements to google voice search but we're not going to see anywhere near the type of even at all the sort of app integration is gonna be key to making interpretation so yeah yeah that's definitely a good point and and now you were speaking Joe any final thoughts uh I'm gonna go back to my old old line and say wow we saw an awful lot of cool stuff it sure is a great time to be alive amen Joe nicely and Joe definitely mr. hi Otto Huesman any final thoughts I'm resonating with Joe there cool cool how about you girls yeah I want to keep everyone here for three minutes longer so that I could come on Android auto um no Belinelli I think worth talking about I mean you saw the release before talked about chevys you know Oh 15 30 2016 models are going to be able to have android on it was epic larp know Hyundai GM Volkswagen and more what whatever just announced during the during the keynote I I guess I guess the reason why I've been ignored Android auto like completely as because it's been announced for like the longest time it took this long to get partners you know well I mean it's here they're they're announcing partners every you know you know that that kind of pace so we should we should see it more than sue and beyond all the other and no car dash boy in our systems well it's hard to get excited about so far just because of the the high barrier to entry whether you're buying an expensive new in dash system or a whole new car it's not something everyone's gonna get to experience straightaway exactly over time girl see these systems in more and more cars and and I think popularity will grow up or anyway I'm just going to keep on taking the t and not have to worry there you go what would you what were your final thoughts be Steven uh I think based on what I've heard about Android M I am cautiously optimistic it might finally be time to upgrade I'm still running KitKat on my Nexus 5 here so hangers crossed I see it all I like you're finally step forward oh wow dude time will tell you are you are how can you avoid the need to update seriously like I serious I got lollipop on my tablet I got enough lollipop in my life Steven wait we trade me that nexus 5 for my fiancé's who is excess cash buoyed by lollipop i guess i guess and i think the best way to end it is with Joe's quote it's a great time to be alive there you know Google proves that there is a lot of innovation coming up I am looking forward to Android M mainly because I do hate how lollipop has you know just made device is useless in some points I mean my galaxy note edge was not that bad on KitKat but now it's terrible so but I guess the biggest problem or the biggest take over here is how long will it take Google or OEM partners to update their phones that's that's the only problem that's left that's that's what we have to wait for the developer preview is already available you can bet that we will be covering will be posting coverage on this developer preview in our impressions on what we get with Android M again we have a lot of fix downloading it right now oh yeah I'm telling that loading that now yeah in the car in the car LT you got the edge guys we have a lot of it's coming again the pocket now weekly will go in depth with everything that we saw at this event in addition to other things that have happened this week you can expect the full google Ohio version of the pocket out daily happening later today we've got a lot of posts a lot of editorials coming on our impressions and yes this editorial roundtable you could come back to later guys thank you very much for joining our editorial roundtable thank you everyone for your QA sadly we can go through them but you can bet that we will try to cover these and eventual coverage that will come within the later day so and thank you very much for watching and we will see you in the next coverage that's to come see you soon