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good afternoon good evening and good everything for everybody else my god Tony what time is it in Romania is happy Lord well let's start with a roll call good whatever to everybody this is hi Mary welcome parking now along with the rest of the pocket our team we are talking about google i/o the event just finished around 30 minutes ago probably 40 and aside from a lot of coding and a lot of technical talk that only Joe understands thank you Joe let's go through let's go through a roll call of everybody that's here mr. Anton Dean onshore editor-in-chief how are you good morning good afternoon good evening everybody I am tired but I am excited about everything that I've seen today I am happy to have you on the show dude it's just so hard since you're pretty much asleep at the time that we've had these roundtables before it is good to be here finally and yeah I really great it's great Oh how's the Porsche that's good mr. Joe lead by how are you senior editor it's great to have you here oh it's a great day for Android this is a great day for Android and we can't wait to hear your particular opinion on everything that just thought because you're the only one that understood the half of it man I mean as the show is like half code and everything else was for the rest of the world then mr. Michael Fisher our own editorial director how are you I forget your titles are doing very well well that's all right my title you know is it dynamic and changing a fluid thing like we all are as humans and as beings of light and Duncan I can't believe by the way the only reason I drink this is because Michael Fisher got me into this but anyways aren't you our chief news editor mr. Stevens Schenk how are you and fun how's it going it's going great we've got a good day but we don't really have much time for the show we have a lot of coverage coming up a lot of editorials we have full video coverage on everything that's happening Michael is that the show floor right now by the way you was at the event and so let's just try to give a little rundown of everything that was talked today there's a lot on the floor how about you mr. Stephen shank how would we like to start with I don't know android l let's be with that it's definitely made the big news out of the i/o keynote at least four users are concerned we got a preview today of what the next new release for kendra's gotta look at the whole thing isn't arriving to the fall of the Developer Preview is coming out tomorrow so Def's to get a head start working with all these changes and really there are a lot of them here we have this new look for her and right here the material design of bleep around here a little bit this is like you really like jeans and it goes into jelly be like them but a lot to get through here into the new look we have some UI tweaks new way of describing how apps will have their interfaces to allow a better expansion between devices the same apks will run on do android TV getting yourself ahead of ourselves here as well as on phones or tablets we learned about expanded notification options changes to the lockscreen chrome a lot of stuff more technical things like battery improvements and this moved art how that's going to improve the way apps Ron and a little talk about gaming as well looking at some of the graphical improvements going to Android it's a heck of a lot here cool cool I mean Michael you were at the events how was the I was the vibe at the show how was everything for first I needed to unmute the microphone I'm sorry about that bump so I need to make it clear that I'm at one of the extended events it i am in cambridge i'm at MIT or right outside MIT where google has an office and i've been surveying things from there and i love coming to this office it's a lot of fun add but the thing is the mood here has been sort of diametrically opposed to mind the entire time during the Android wear segment most particularly I was in like rapt attention thoroughly enjoying everything I was seeing and you know being mildly aroused by the whole thing I was really really into it and during that maybe 35 minutes of time about half of the auditorium I was sitting in kind of like pick that moment to go get a sandwich there's always food at Google events so like I've I've been existing in this world where like no one else is excited about the things I am because this is you know a developer conference and I think a lot of the people here this isn't a very big Android town like this isn't a very big Android office so it's been a you know they've been excited about the other stuff Google's nice I wouldn't assume for the Android TV stuff in and when the developer stuff would be the things they should razon out on Android wit or where we're getting the sense that smartphones are finally the public at large and yet you just weren't seeing them responding to it yeah you know that and that's the thing you know I think this this this town in particular in this office and to a lesser extent e the industry as a whole it has this as a much broader take on a lot of this stuff and you know we all at pocket now get really jazzed about the consumer level devices because you know it's like that's the stuff that's the for us i think is easiest to get excited about i don't necessarily want to talk long term strategy and and and business competitive tactics and that kind of thing i want to talk about this new thing i can wear that'll make me make my life easier or at least make me feel like I'm living in the future and I think that's the cool stuff but you know that not everyone is into the same thing so I mean no hey maybe I maybe I need to grow up I'm not going to do it well speaking of wood and I would love to get your everybody's opinion on this what do you guys think of the whole material design I think that's probably one of the biggest things I mean we we really didn't think or at least I particularly didn't think we were gonna get a revamp than you I and it's quite significant and funny we've kind of been using it on google+ probe forbidden ever since the application got updated a couple of weeks ago it's pretty much the whole element of the material you I I don't know what do you guys think let's how well you haven't been using good plus nobody's been using Google+ don't lie to us yeah I have Oh Joe you're like the only guy with Tony what do you think the process first and see that we're seeing something strange here which is strange in a good way I I think that Google didn't necessarily have to update its user interface because the stock Android interface was good and apple on the other hand who really needs to update something on user interface and that will probably not do it and they didn't do it in the past so I think that the new user interface from Android L which is going to be either lollipop or something else is a welcome it's a breath of fresh air it brings you something new but this brings me the question I would like all of each answer what do you guys think will happen to OEM skins now that we have this great looking stock vanilla user interface on Android oh yes just screw it up well haven't we gotten a statement already from at least one OEM HTC has addressed this matter with us where they've said that they're going to keep up with the changes the clock starts now they're going to be rebuilding that the skin around the new thing I mean isn't that is that your question I like our OEM is reacting well to it that's part of the question but we could put it more brutally if you want would HTC this sense would Samsung's TouchWiz just to get the stock user interface in the hands of customers or what Google require OEMs to do that now that if DUI is polished no I really don't think we're going to see OEMs ditch their their third part of you is for this I mean yeah there are some changes here some of them are more significant than others but there's nothing here that's going to cause a manufacturer to do an about-face on their their strategies with regard to Android I don't think the only things that we did see was there were some hints dropped regarding how how dynamic colors are going to be brought in how images are going to be able to programmatically you're going to be able to pull an image color out of an image and use that and they kind of dropped some hints about how some of the more thematic elements are going to be able to be applied throughout the entire OS so rather than seeing a custom skin we might start seeing more custom theming done which then goes back to way back in the day of cyanogenmod when we have that theme engine from t-mobile if you guys remember that that's still there running at the core of the cyanogenmod roms we may see a shift from you know TouchWiz or a sense UI over more to a custom theme with a custom color palette that's using the the android l framework if you will for lack of a better word so you think that that sense for example would turn into just a theme and no longer dig into the rest of the UI that's our junk I'm hoping that that's the way it's going to go and then that will leave om's a little bit more able to develop apps and to build a little bit more around the notification shade and some of the other elements in the device they'll spend less time working on their skin and that's really the wrong term for it but we'll go ahead and use it and they'll spend more time giving us value rather than just a brand or some kind of a marketing gimmick that helps their diff I stand out from the other because I'm hoping android l will have all of that functionality built in and it works for everybody yeah and anything about it I mean like for example out of everything that we saw I think that HTC Sense is probably like the UI that looks the most like Android L should I say well that and I also just got off a week of using that asus padfone x and it looks an awful lot like what we're seeing with android l the long way books a long like android huawei one looks a living the LG g3 like there's a point at which you know you have to acknowledge that trends move in a certain way in design and it doesn't matter what company you're talking about like you know the circular to toggle elements and you know unified sort of color banding at the top of certain apps like these are not things that have been stolen for me anything it's just everybody's kind of doing the same thing that the field is narrowing quite a bit yeah you guys can hate me we had this like common over at the chat as we were going through the keynote of obviously there you can't say you can't say that iOS doesn't look like Android I mean the notification shade for example even if they don't look alike the idea came from Android and in that same way ever since we've seen that change in iOS 7 where the top bar changed into a specific color and then the rest of the UI elements became around and we kind of see this a little in android l though obviously there is it's funny my group Michael was saying of how it went away from being skeuomorphic Android and now it came back to being morphic with that whole paper sort of elements I don't know if you guys are very then it didn't come all the way back yet came it came half way back so yeah we went to a totally flat area for a little bit we're still a lot of manufacturers are still in the midst of making that change with their UI skins but now we have we have stock Android saying okay but we do want to reintroduce a little bit of dimension to it and so that was you know that's kind of interesting to see it's interesting you know intervention being the school morphism here because when i first saw android l my initial impression was very negative with as far as the the sort of emphasis being placed on transitions being able to show the user what's happening you on screen elements let you know leave those ripple effects and stuff when you're touching things I'm a very pared down you I guy I like to touch something and see changes immediately and transition star my bag but I also realize it's kind of a you know retweet ivory tower position to put yourself in where you need to have deep understanding of how the system works learner to appreciate how to work with it I think what the changes are seeing with el it's going to be even if it's not you know the note app looks like a notebook in order to let you know how to interact with it the way that on screen elements are going to move around are going to help some guide users through things even if we're not seeing explicit school morphism there are still some visual decisions being made to to guide users in the right direction I think that's a beast and Dave now Michael one question to you since you were at the show what so why is it being called Android L listen I mean we came from a transition of cake names and pastry names you know kick cat and key and you know into L they have you any idea why they call it android l um you don't know but I Tony had some wonderful speculation and the chat about this because and I think it's one hundred percent right and I think Taylor backed you up on that Tony what was your explanation for that I don't remember that oh I'm sorry that I'm it must have been tailored and then you agreed with him or we all agree with him I because they want a more professional sound too this that's when I first no no I think that they're still seeking a partner like like KitKat to to partner with on this show Jose laughing as though I've just said something idiotic well show you disagree you think this is going to be a droid I think you can cope with it okay Android L we Noel comes after k so it's obviously the next version of android we don't know if that's 4.5 we don't know if it's five point oh they really didn't tell us and I haven't seen anything to that end what's different from today versus previous releases is we haven't gotten a release yet we've gotten a preview and most of the time in the past it's gotten its its pastry or its sweets name when it was released so I'm wondering if in the fall when Android L becomes a real thing and is available to end users if we won't then get licorice or lime or whatever else L could stand for I'm all for Lima Bean but I don't think they'll go that route or 11 hi 11 pi when I lemon meringue sure so I'm wondering if L is just the internal one because it's still a developer release for now and then when it's finally released that's when it will get its traditional sweets name and the statue outside of the the Android building on the Google campus I hate before before we move on because I know we have to wrap up this segment in order to go to the next one now this is more aimed at Joe and those who are interested in technical details I won't go into art belviq and the other ones i have the simple and user question we've seen the new user interface we've seen that it solicits the CPU and the GPU for all those layers and shadows and everything now the phones on the market today like vm eight like es5 the g3 and the z2 will have no problems running android l probably last year's flagship didn't have or will not have problems either what about mid rangers what about those phones who will be in the cheap segment those who will be aimed at the emerging markets how will those cope with android l and all these changes well specifically we saw today what Android one that's going to be thar get it specifically to these emerging markets and combined both with KitKat and with android l we're seeing more of a push over there a lot of the devices that I've been testing have had kind of lower end specs and run KitKat just fine one of the very underutilized things that all of these devices have inside of them is that GPU the graphics processing unit and up until just recently that's been there primarily for games and not a lot of the whole user interface apps and your home screens and just stuff that you do to interact with the device itself as we're moving forward and making this progress we're seeing more emphasis put on that GPU and a lot more of what used to be handled by the CPU shelved off to the GPU so now you've got these two different components working in concert and you're more than doubling the the processing power that you had before because that GPUs gun under utilize the second half to that question and it might segues into it is the difference between dalvik and art and art according to what we saw today has a 2 x speed improvement over dalvik on the Nexus 5 at least the Android L version of of the art runtime environment so what you're saying for instance if I had this one mini the original one or ds3 mini or s4 mini chances are that aight i will get android l as an update or b i will get angry what is an update or see HTC or Samsung my just abandon these phones I think the likelihood is the latter everyone's not going to be an option for existing phones I don't think about Google's trying to really streamline this thing to talked about choosing the specific hardware and even get companies that sell the hardware so that om scan just put a phone together real quickly sort of like the industrial version of project all right it's not the same any other a few things coming together row one on it you're done so I don't think we're going to be on to existing and it was a hardware reference platform and you don't want it it's like it's really interesting Android one is sort of like it's like if Google wants to take you know it wants to take over feature phones like completely and they're like okay don't you know oems forget about the software we will deal with the software we will give you software updates will give you everything just build a really cheap phone and we will make sure that the operating system runs on it and they will take care of everything we were talking about skins a little earlier I think so a big part of the direction of choosing for Andrew it's smaller companies an option to have a stock Android experience as conveniently as possible to maybe discourage them from you know cooking up some half-baked scheme just for the sake of having one say no no do this it's easier yours will like it better so I feel like while some of these the bigger companies with their own skins they might live on to one extent or another we're not going to see much of that at all on the lower I think a lot of users love that and another advantage of and ruin one that they mentioned is they're going to have the same update mechanism where updates come directly from Google just like the Nexus family of devices in Google Play edition devices so where these smaller companies might not have the resources to maintain and update their i'll call it bloat i'm happy to call it bloat put that in the hands with Google Google will take care of all of the updates and push them down through their existing services so that frees up these the smaller especially emerging markets to be able to make devices that work in those emerging markets at bootstraps and then it gets them going now one question and particularly for Michael and back to you Joe as well did anybody hear anything about 64-bit processors that was like the big push that we were waiting for um you know you right right well I mean got 64 bit but we didn't get 64 bit processors per se we didn't hear anything about hardware or any partners that are coming in with 64-bit anything we didn't get any announcement there it was just kind of like an afterthought oh hey by the way android l and the new art compiler their 64-bit and everything that's already out there and artery written is just going to work fine and hey let's move on to the next slide where it was kind of interesting that nothing was announced there it was almost like an afterthought it sits there and it works and developers don't have to do anything it's just going to work by moving on we had all this big now just repress cosi companies and going back to last fall these SOC s are confirms just a matter of when they're going to show up in devices so now with the Android 64-bit software side all the pieces are in place just a matter of who's going to be first to come out with a phone it takes advantage of right but Jen and SOC first in front yeah well anyways I are we missing any things particularly from Android L aside from the designs you all from the only have like ten minutes left then we have a lot with exactly and we have a lot more to talk about I mean what else are we missing because I really want to talk about Android wear I haven't eaten before we move into that and with this can segue into that the new one locking mechanism when when the phone doesn't require you to enter your PIN when you are wearing your watch and if you take off your watch then the unlocking mechanism switches back to asking for your Bend I had this question while I was watching the stream live Bluetooth has a range of up to 10 to 15 meters if I just take off my watch and put it to the side it will still be connected to my phone my phone will still see me in its range so I think that it was either an exaggeration well the presenter took off his watch and the phone has for the pin or there's some hocus-pocus there which we didn't hear about your business if a guy run out of the you know of the stage and just running out to all the way to the back of the event I thought you didn't see so either he turned the watch off or had a Faraday cage or there might be some some proximity sensing going on where maybe the device is looking for the signal strength of that Bluetooth connection and saying hey it's getting weaker and weaker and weaker I know that that device is getting further for the way and maybe there's some kind of a toggle where it's 5v 10 feet 20 feet as estimates before it finally says okay you're too far away and it locks or it could be just if it's within that whatever the theoretical maximum limit of that bluetooth device is but they don't know they just creep on dude its books are sitting at a table sharing a meal or a beer or something and I reach over the table to take your phone and I don't need to unlock your phone cousin I'll still see you ya boy- that's today morning point is it or you're some guy in the ball are two and they just walked by the table pick it up go over the table next door you don't know it's been stolen but it's still within range of your watch are they going to have access to all of your information because it's unlocked point is if you don't have if you have a commanding wife and you don't live in a mansion where you can just stick your wife at some point at the other end of the building or something the thing is going to know your you know it just won't be able to tell the difference obviously it's something that that we have the test but the thing is we've seen this on the Moto X already right Michael we haven't deed yet Taylor was make mention of that during the chat of the actual event yeah trusted devices it's called and it's a pretty cool thing on the Moto X when you have a toggle you have with you and if you get too far away from your phone it'll it'll lock up I think it's a cool thing and I wouldn't as Joe was saying I wouldn't think it was a big technical hurdle to specify the range at which you want that to apply I mean I certainly wouldn't wouldn't want it to be 30 feet I wouldn't yeah i mean that's that's no security I mean if a guy steals my phone and he stays in the same train car as me I you know I don't want me to be able to unlock it so I'm fairly certain you can select the range but I may be wrong probably I don't know one of the things one of the things it's a cool feature I just probably one of my biggest disappointments with Android L is or at least the fact that we didn't get anything announced of you know all that boys have activation features that we currently get on the Moto X the fact that motive that Google kept all these patents and I don't edit it's not like if police saw that Google is using these patents in favor of Android to get that always-on feature that the Moto that the Moto X currently has well that Hardware pennant oh hi ma'am and yes the Snapdragon 800 has a similar ability built into it but the Moto X have custom computing like SOC built to support that feature as well as some other so it's not you know Google can't just come out and say like hey it's going to be available in every Android device because these it's a hardware specific feature well we'll see sadly Steven for some reason God dropped the call he should be back with us soon I think we should segue over to Android L but in wearables because so the point being is one of the coolest things about Android L is the fact that there is no separate SDK for everything else we got Android auto we've got android TV we've got android wear and android on phones and tablets and it's pretty much the same platform the only thing that changes is the form factor and probably that was one of the coolest things about Android L the fact that you will not have you know developers will not have to redo code I understand Joe they would pretty much just build an application for the phone and there will be an Android wear a portion of it where they can just immediately pass whatever the SmartWatch will be able to pull from the application right yeah so essentially any notification that you get or present in your app is automatically exposed right over to your wearable you can dismiss that notification on the wearable and it dismisses it everywhere else or dismiss it everywhere else and it dismisses it unwearable so that interaction is there by default when you write custom code to give additional information to that wearable you're writing it in the same SDK in fact you're publishing it in the same app the app that you download and install from the Play Store to your smartphone or your tablet runs on your smartphone and tablet and if you have a connected Android wear device it automatically gets that partner app if you will that little segment of the app on the watch or what a notice they didn't just say watch they said wearables over and over again so we could see something else coming but it gets that that part of the app automatically it's installed automatically it's updated automatically when the app on your phone or tablet or updated as well if you want to do something extra special and specific you can write custom code for that wearable but it's all part of that that app that you get through the current distribution mechanism and through the current development environments and speaking of apps on the on the Android wear devices it was really really awesome the apps that they chose to demo on stage really sold the case for for these watches because the apps on smart watches are nothing new I mean we've seen the month on the gear devices are seeing them on the pebble and and they're really good on some of those other hardware but like this app that was called eat24 where singleton ordered a pizza in like 20 seconds on stage right from his wife with no interaction with his phone you can think lift has built an app you can order a car hat and Andrew all right yeah yeah like all on the on the on the watch and then the the cooks one the chef one where you can put the recipe on your wrist and they took that opportunity to say that all the watches are going to be ip67 you know yeah it all comes together me the package that the I think this is going to be one of the more better integrated and and more powerful wearable packages we've ever seen I think what's interesting is what we didn't see and correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't get any mention of completely autonomous Android wear smart watches and there's been this talk about maybe a new gear from Samsung that so everything depends on ya ya know it and I'm and I'm glad that we didn't because you know every said yeah Samsung's been talking about that and it would be pretty cool to see like a gear were they calling it a gear solo or whatever your stoli yeah but like that's a very samsung thing to do you know and I I don't mean to sound derisive when I say that but it's like that's a very like hey well let's try everything once kind of thing to do I don't see Google that in its current iteration being like yeah you know what let's just give it a shot and see if it works you know it's a much better experience when you have the phone backing up your your your wearable I today was all about tying devices together and having them you work with content from one another rather than splitting things off and going in their own way tell me something guys tell me something guys is Tony the only person in this room that is not excited about Android wear probably yes okay Tony why are you not excited about android wear I want to understand because everybody I mean we were all chatting and we were all going crazy when it was announced and when we saw the demo I mean I was probably a little underwhelmed with the what the LG G watch is display it looked really low resolution but after I kept seeing everything that you can do when i saw that moto 360 being demoed my god i was drooling Tony why don't you like it so I said it a lot of occasions before he'll continue saying it i will use a SmartWatch when it will improve my life when it will improve my multitasking way of being but the way Android wear is now it is for me personally nothing more than an extension still an extension of my phone a secondary screen and this is probably has a lot of things to do with the fact that Google now and all of its Dian's is not available in my region I constantly communicating three or four languages every day in English with you guys in Romania and Hungarian who knows an Italian I can't dictate in four languages for an email plus when I phone is non-stop in my pocket or connected to my computer and in the car so right now for me and river doesn't bring anything to be excited I don't know you know do we want have a good point when I go ahead skip go ahead kind of the same way um I I realized why Google is doing things the way it is where this focused on using the watch more it's an extinction of the phone than anything else but I'm a guy who likes the idea of software instead of services I like the idea of the autonomous SmartWatch even if it's not connected to you know song the radio just the things are happening on the watch itself and instead we're seeing it just being used as a screen to the cloud or to the phone or something else it's just not the product I was looking for but that doesn't mean that it's not really really cool for what it does and will be useful to a heck of a lot of people so it's not for me but I think it's extremely awesome you know it could be I mean Joe correct me if I'm wrong I mean it could be that for of a SmartWatch to be fashionable in today's technology age it could be that the technology is just not there for the SmartWatch to remain small and also be a standalone product I mean first of all I would how many people would be able to pay for a secondary phone line just for their watch when you already have one for your I don't know for your phone tablets ah but not everybody pays for them I mean you have the option that's cool to have but how many people actually pay for four separate data plan just for tablets sure yes I'm feel good in pain or an extra one for your watch I mean that's that's every carriers dream now we can charge everybody three times or for whatever they have connected the SmartWatch is a standalone I think is missing the point and a lot of people were asking that in the article that I published earlier this morning people seem to think that a smart watches a replacement for a smartphone and in my opinion it's really not what this does is it's a way to augment your your experience with either you smartphone or tablet and it lets you keep that phone in your pocket more it lets you keep that screen turned off more of the time and it lets you have this little itty-bitty screen showing you just the information that you need or the information that you might not need and can just easily dismiss right there conveniently quickly and if you're sitting at a table you guys can tell me this more than anybody and somebody pulls out their smartphone and looks at it it interacts with it and puts it back in their pocket the person sitting across from you is that's just rude right but if you look at your watch and swipe across and you're done and you're back to the conversation much easier once you it's fair that those tities here it's what it is much easier to Joe but like for example what I think one of the things that I've noticed with with the with my use of the pebble is every time that I get an alert people are like do you need to leave these people because I'm constantly looking at the watch and I'm like oh ok and I don't say anything I just look at the alert and I dismiss it but everybody's like be need to go is it time is it late like crap that's my heavy burdens gonna have to change yeah there is Republic ethic got any issue go ahead maybe using my phone wrong in the first place but every time i sit down i take it out of my pocket and put it on the table I don't trust you know it getting scratched up or bumped against something down there so it's already out there for me yeah and that's exactly my user scenario so for me whether I just swipe on my wrist or swipe on my phone or talk to my wrist or talk to my already there it's the same effort and I really find no use of wearing some foot not if you're driving washing dishes walking down the street you have fun if you have one thing and your other had their like 400 million circumstances in which i am not going I agree with Michael and like for example in my case in particular why do I like a SmartWatch there are certain areas in the city where I can't walk and show my phone because it'll you know I will immediately be targeted to be mugged so for me to have a watch that you know what do you what do I like the most about the Moto 360 the fact that it looks like any other watch you know it looks very elegantly simplicity it because it's it's gonna become a symbol like you know wearing the white earbuds like you are now that people know you have an expensive you know ipod or something it's just gonna oh there's a LG G watch this guy must have a nice smartphone under his jacket there just yeah we gotta get we got good high my some like sweet beats you know headphone yeah and the motivation thing is a really good a bluetooth connected boombox it it on his shoulder go back to the years those are cheap right Michael which which which android wear product are you getting the Moto 360 is absolutely without question but I was surprised to see that the gear live you're not the gear yeah the gear live was announced today and I think the ones that we are getting first are going to be the gear live and the G watch but the Moto 360 will be the one that I probably spend my own money on you know because it's just that that's herbal there at is just awesome and I'm glad to hear it's not going to be the last circular display they're going to use from what we heard on stage today yeah well Tony Tony you won't care Joe what are you getting I'm getting the the LG G watch just because it's going to be available in the play store later today and actually I'm refreshing the page right now to see if I can buy it well all right I think I know no I I really really like the the Moto 360 I especially like that it's got cheese support built-in and even if I do get the the G watch which I probably will as soon as it becomes available today just so we can get it in hand and start getting some videos and I'm getting some articles written about how at what it is how it works some shortcomings and what not even if I get that I'm most likely going to get the Moto 360 just because it looks more elegant it looks more like a timepiece than it does a SmartWatch Steven what about you you don't care are you getting more tea that wouldn't be the Moto 360 because come on circo displays they're just cool any like just that it looks awesome it's good at the most high-end at least appearance-wise even it's a little thick it's nice looking I mean unless you knew to expect that it was a moto 360 look like any other watch that's gonna be one it looked like another watch and it's gorgeous but one question cuz I heard that it was a different UI for circular displays it helped no nn-no it's the same it's the same UI it's just frame differently it's just circular yep the Gators a day includes but the SDK includes design hints and essentially you're designing for circular first and then it also works on rectangular so we're going to see more circular stuff going forward as circular LCDs become more of a thing become more technologically easy to produce that's my prediction for the future some people are still going to want to rectangular watch and they'll be able to have them some people are going to want around they're going to have them the SDK answers that question any app is going to work on either one no problem you don't have to worry about it it'll just work I want to hear what which before Stanton to carry one I want to hear which one is his favorite back in the pebble days in the original pebble days I said no it's not yet for me i'll wait for other players now we have sony we have samsung and I said you know what no I'll wait for Android wear because it might be something which is useful for me now I say no I'll wait for you i watch because maybe the iWatch will be something useful for me I'll tell you straighten out nothing from the market you guys can have mine as well ok I'll get done it to me I'll take the 360 look I don't know I guess probably the biggest disappointment of this event is no hardware aside from the fact that you can buy the g whoa and you can buy the samsung gear live today we did not get a smartphone we did not get a tablet I mean the Nexus 7 has been historically launched on google i/o for the past two years we were expecting either a nexus eight ER and Nexus 9 depending on the rumors and we did not get anything oh and they have talked to the tablets on the Play Store to which is kind of indicative that we should be seeing something today they're just messing with us at this point I think they are if if there will be a smartphone or a tablet and or both I think we'll see them around the time when Android L will become final and it will be shipping and those devices or that device will celebrate the launch the availability of Android L I think if gopher if we're waiting until the fall it might be too late for the Nexus line I mean Android one could just be the predecessor getting us ready for Android silver yeah that's what everyone out comes out might be ready we're also likely going to have 64-bit hardware coming out as well and I think I think that's really where it's going to be will have an Android silver in the Play Store will probably still have play edition devices at Google Play edition and they'll be 64 bit they'll run whatever they call the L version of Android because I still think they're going to do that but we'll get those in the fall along with the new smartphones in the new tablets that's my prediction will ste and I guess final thoughts over the rest of the things that we're now as we saw Android TV which is again Android L expanded to the television had a really cool UI and everything but and tailor made a really good point the chapters we were talking about Taylor talking about Android auto and then Android TV the fact that you know it's hoarsely specific on brands like Sony TV's you know it's not like something where you can just buy a dongle or buy a chromecast or buy a bigger box and just make it work on your current TV no use have they have to buy a new TV in the case of Android be releasing boxes I and you'll see boxes and you'll see keys just like the chromecast don't worry they didn't announce them but you will the main take-home out of both Android TV and Android auto is it's not really software that's running there it's it's more like an ability to cast stuff to it and display in that environment from your phone or from your tablet so you no longer have to worry about updating your car or updating your TV or updating whatever else you're updating your tablet and whatever you're running there whether it's Android L or whatever letter comes after L or whether it's a new device as a faster processor you're automatically just going to get that in your car on your TV it's it's going to be there all over the place which is a different approach than what we've had with Smart TVs today where you're hardly ever going to see an update to whatever is running on your LG TV or on your sony TV it's old right out of the box and it's never getting an update and that has some serious usability as well security concerns probably the only cool thing that I found about Android TV was the fact that I could control it with my whatever SmartWatch I get oh that's beautiful that was cool that was really cool probably the only cool thing that we saw in a future update that will come to the chromecast by the way you will be able to create ambiances in order to have your TV become your picture board or whatever but probably even cooler is that now you won't have to share your Wi-Fi pass where people will be able to control your call your chromecast remotely so it's interesting how they keep enhancing this $35 accessory into doing more things so again a lot of things were announced today a a lot of things were good I don't think we could say that there was anything negative announced everything was very positive if I thought we were going to get that we did I oh Lord I'm shutting down then I'll jump in and do negatives we did have protesters there and my god hello well is that killer robots I mean that's awesome so developers if you are watching this please make sure you include as mobs Three Laws of Robotics when you're making your killer robots so please my god what was the guy complaining about that was just like you couldn't even let the guy talk I was expecting eggs and tomatoes being thrown at the guide stuff it was really yeah you had net neutrality protesters there which Google is all behind that duality so that didn't make any sense to me you had fair housing I don't know what that has to do with Google maybe we can talk about that offline after and then killer robots wow there's a very large local dispute in San Francisco with regard to Google and how it occupies the space and how it is is where is not contributing to the to the what do you call but the whitewashing of the space i forgot the the fancy word for it because i'm tired but yeah there was a lot of protests have gone on it was pretty nuts okay Steven before you get dropped off again Hyderabad I don't move is the negative throw everything at the table right now it's not so much negative guess I was expecting to get something about glass and I mean we had the expanded availability coming to the UK they announced those the new hardware upgrade yesterday I suspected there to be if finally this big we're making glass available for seven hundred dollars it's gonna be in best buys you can go try out and right I mean this has to happen eventually in just a matter now of how long kugels gonna keep dragging us along and that talk about you know wearables in general vs smart walk is is kept implying oh there's going to be some other form factor here but didn't come up maybe for another day I'm all for the pocket watch yeah that would be interesting but anyways well isn't the pocket watch your current smartphone dude just put it on a gold chain and absolutely yeah yeah well head around smartphone wow that was really wanted and prepare clocks but anyways let's go through some final thoughts guys because we have a lot of work and we are we just ran out of time mr. Tony what are your thoughts I think everything we've seen is positive I think everything we've seen is pushing the envelope Google managed to up the ante and I think right now it's apples move because after everything we've seen today Apple has to really come up with something better and not saying they had to have an iphone 6 which is better than any other Android phone out there I'm talking services I'm talking orientation towards your user experience usability and future I love that well that's your opinion obviously I don't know I just for example they threw in Google fit just out of the blue you know cuz you know there was helpful health could be announced and I at WWDC and things I don't know I it seemed like you have a lot of the things that they announced just try to match what was announced WWDC in a way but yeah definitely Apple will have to push the ante with hardware indeed how about you Joe well I did notice that there was one little quip pointed right at Apple basically saying here's the timeline of Android and look we've had lock screens we've had notification shades we've had widgets for the last four or five years oh and by the way yeah 64 bits here and we're doing android fit and android wear and so it was kind of down playing on Apple saying Apple just came up to speed with where we were four years ago and yeah we'll have 64-bit in some of this other stuff and it'll just be there and it'll just work and that was great but it was a lot of reading between the lines they told us a lot of cool stuff but they left a lot of stuff to the oh yeah we've been doing that you didn't know that why didn't you know that you didn't tell us but overall I'm impressed i like it one little bit of information that i have breaking from mkbhd per hour fun users accessing apparently the LG G watch will be available on the google play store at 4 p.m. pacific time so there we go no sleep for you my friend mmm that's one of those things that's going to break the internet little bit miss them mr. Michael Fisher what are your final thoughts well Michael so doesn't matter acting beautiful I think the internets dying over there he did he said it was gonna break the internet and the building rate the internet and because now I'm hearing when you guys 30 seconds ago and now it's what mess I hate hangouts only when I have a poor connection the point is if I in fact still do any uh we tell shy making things today I think I was to press your PHA em once or not if you like them or not but did kiss tortoise is definitely if nothing else consistent we've seen ripple touch interfaces you know from him before we clean certainly card-based paradigms before and I'm excited to try out in particular the new multi tasking approach because I think that's going to be a very fun thing I didn't happen to catch whether the cards are live when you see them but I hope they are and I'm pretty jazzed to try it out but on the phones i think the user facing stuff was pretty you know pretty tame I don't think anybody's gonna we're gonna be flipping out over you know shadows on cards I'm certainly most excited to see what happens with where and I think it's going to be a big ol challenge do competitors sent whatever but but pebble I'm really interested to see how people react to that from a computed standpoint it would be cool if they will came out with a android wear you know SmartWatch I think that's like the smartest way to go ah and we do have an editorial on what they could do to a 2.5 version of pebble but we don't know the fall through without her we'll see what about You mr. Steven sure unmute there um I think a lot of the we saw and it wasn't too surprising this isn't groundbreaking stuff would you can get the harder a lot of people were looking forward to personally I think material design was the most important thing to come out of this and I'm getting shut off again well to pick up where Stephen left off material design is a really big thing going forward and probably the bigger thing about it is it's not just android google said they also updated their web development sdk they're also pushing some of that over to their laptop at Chromebook and that now we're seeing that on some of the other devices as well so really material design is what this what the whole software side of the aisle was all about and we'll see more of that as as breakouts are happening i'm sure developers are sitting in those right now which is where i'd love to be but material design that's going to be the direction of android for at least the next year or two in addition to the web stuff all of google's web services and all of the peripheral devices whether that's in your car on your TV or on your wrist Jaime I think it's time for us conclude yes 30 minute round table after an hour yeah sorry about that i muted um definitely if my final thoughts are just you know to wrap up I am very excited especially for Android where I think that that's really where smartwatches had to go at some point google now has a point an additional point of being now I I did like the fact that Google decided to integrate everything the chromecast Chromebooks Android applications on Chromebooks the fact that now there is an advantage to owning an android phone and a Chromebook for example I liked all those things but specifically wearables and there's a lot more coverage coming up obviously we will be talking about it on tomorrow's podcast as well we will be talking about it on editorials coming up we have another video coming up the parking out daily so please everybody stay tuned thank you very much for watching this video and hopefully we will see you soon as we are completely off time already um if we're not missing anything else I we are signing off thank you very much for watching