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it says it says life how do I it's s live and now we need to figure out how to make fun oh I've got it I've got some embed code oh no I got a URL ah ok just then better than and whatever in the back I'm going yeah I'm just gonna put it on that on the site and we'll put on a post we are such amateurs ma'am so supposedly nouns am i understanding we're supposed to look at the camera and actually talk I'm yeah I say hi to everybody who's watching and most likely everybody's watching out there and making fun of us as well let's see let me see if I can find ourselves somewhere here yeah no tell me you wanna you want to see this broadcast yeah I want to see I want to see this broadcast and make fun of myself honey you wanted yours on I wish I brought my cigar um smoking's bad for you kids well anyway so we're definitely let me do a little bit of an introduction you're just so it has some structure and then we'll throw a structure out the window so we're doing this just as an experiment our hope is that we get some people on here to ask us phone questions totally informal just a Friday afternoon you know three friends just just hanging out and you know we would probably be doing this anyway but this time we decided to record it so um for posterity yes for the and for those people that have always complained that they want a video podcast which we will not do this is like the closes that will get closest but we might have something different I really AM you know I I was you remember I was really into starting a video podcast and then tony was like completely against it like and it is roughly agreed agreed agreed i really have no complaints about that but really Tony aside from the fact that we are completely ugly to the rest of the outside world what what other reason then why don't you want the living that's not enough yeah it's not enough i mean a valid reason come on for for starters we do stuff which others shouldn't do it look just look at me oh we've got iced tea and a transit packet cigar that makes smoke actually it's a wafer which is the with chocolate hmm well let's prove it good thing I'm l ike a bite off at the end with the ashes this one right yeah yeah no way okay so the question is are where are we actually broadcasting because I see us featured in the channel can you see us random there is a link that I've posted to arrow specials vdf and here I'll put it in the chat all right I see yep there we are whoa yeah it's live if you have the link is there a possibility to see actually how many viewers we have or or if there's anybody watching decide from us you know we look at this youtube link you should but you can't i'm a total amateur when it comes to we are such admirable really source speaking of amateur before you came on Tony I was telling hi Maeve that I I did something strange recently I am I bought this and I'm using it as my daily driver it's the AT&T oh my god that I'm still gonna take this over once you get rid of it I'm never getting rid of this that's a night one okay so i really want to understand i mean you guys both Michael and you praise that phone so much but I've never really used it or held it or anything so you neither what what is it I mean I didn't like the Nexus 4 i mean i remember you showed it to me I was like that's exactly the point that oh we've got someone joining us and then we'll talk about the optimus G welcome whoever it is his name well he's not here he was here and you okay so let's talk about the optimus G okay after this JP the optimus G is like the Nexus 4 but it doesn't have the touch sensitivity issue and and we have a new avatar-- hello sir i cannot I'm not war my lady ne ed to stop drinking Tony I think youse better avatars I think it's a guy when we only hear him I don't want to be rude the ya-ya avatar is a look at me anyway so the nexus 4 is awesome it's fast it's got the for pro 2 gigs of ram it's got a great screen but the optimus G fixes what's wrong with the the nexus 4 except it's not stock Android but LG has done a killer job with the software and it's running Android 4.1 kind of sucks but it's it's fast it's got the s4 pro like I said and and also another thing is that you don't get the bottom row of buttons here so you get the full 1280 thing in 768 where's on the nexus 4 it's like a little bit less than that so I'm gonna plug it back in I don't know I you know I we've tested so many LG phones with Tony at mwc in it which was it the optimus 4x and the guy was like oh and look I love to play these games in the phone was like the guy was moving his fingers around and the phone was like a kilometer behind as you remember although the DL 5 and the l7 oh no I remember the start we started filming we started filming the l7 and then Tony was like eff it and that is this this is me this is crap just let's go let's get out of here this is what the LG has had some problems with a like they figured out something with this Optimus G it's really weird I mean they figured it out so much the google made them they're the partner for the nexus 4 so agreed but still I mean Ellie's not going software wait what what how did you read the link to our hangout excuse me did you tweet the link to our hangout oh yeah I've invited like 20 people so far but apparently people think that it's happening later and they're like it work at school excuse me do you have the porridge no no but I do have coffee the best coffee oh sweet mother any I know I know it looks really good trying to roar I got it why are you the devil yeah yeah I don't know I just I like the look of these horns by the way do I have any other accessories aside from the hair on my head and my cigar as well you don't need any more accessories than the fact that you're actually wearing your hair this time is something you guys controller I control because I can't see any buttons here for horns or for classical go to the left and get this kick out of my face go to where it says google effects and you know there there's some really nice heads of hair there there's a bozo 10 here's here's something for me Oh Marilyn I'm just given doesn't stop looks good let's give this one a try all right this is this is old people finding out new stuff I'm serious man you guys was easily cool chain us up he lets us plexus yeah he left them there oh there this one so check this out this is Samsung's 840 pro SSD but look at the chamfered edge like Samsung is kicking ass with everything look at that it's an SSD that sits inside you could be r you never see again but it's got this like iphone like chamfered edge around that the entrance is crazy that's nice you want to see that you don't want to bury that inside your computer now twith the SATA cable that's good sit how much do you pay for that I've been trying to get an external SSD but they're just crazy expensive yeah I guess if you if you look at it like compared to a hard drive but um this was like in the high to hundreds and it's 256 gigabytes and its really i think pretty top up their performance so um well you can just buy a hard drive enclosure and use it yeah or you can just dangle it in your case or just it's a 2.5 inch so it can go into your laptop or um if you guessed up interesting I don't know I one thing that i have really like is I had totally underestimated USB 3.1 till we went to see us because this this hard drive that I that I bought and connected to the macbook pro just rocks I mean I I actually keep no footage no raw footage anymore in the macbook pro I keep everything in the hard drive and I can actually just do everything from the hard drive as if it was a local part of the of the computer and it's not calling anyways I'm gonna hang out yeah somebody somebody's been calling me from the same number but I've told them I'm busy so anyways I I think at least media is going there I would really love to try Thunderbolt but then the adapter for Thunderbolt is like a hundred dollars just for the adapter and then the hard drive is another money hmm and that doesn't include the wire so it's a hundred dollars for the adapter + like forty dollars for the wire plus the hard drive that's not cool that's not cool at all and you get twice the speed I mean sure but I usb3 when I was working really good for me man it's so funny because USB one was huge and then us two point O was massive and then usb3 like I think is the transition with with two wireless people don't like it as much but it's it's good to hear that it's actually significantly better you know there will be a follow up at us before even higher speeds that's interesting I don't know there should be I mean you think about a USB has been around for what it's 50 years already but the bus was so well designed that there's really no need to change it they could probably just make the kick the connector smaller or something right I guess I probably my only issue with USB 3 is for example in this macbook pro you can't choose um it only has USB 3 and so there are certain adapters that really don't work with the computer at all like for example i had my my my data modem that doesn't work with the computer at all at all it's not even detected let me post a link to our facebook page with this ongoing hang out I did that brown you did really hell yeah that's nice you think of everything that I know fo really you're like you ain't no fool you're using those gargles back come on riff okay how about this hmm that's fitting you're the King never looked better how do i get rid of it click on it again nice okay so you are going to make your daily driver the optimus g yes amazing I find it amazing I mean I I would have never thought that about LG a year ago exactly a year ago I was like LG is such a waste of time the thing is that as I said yesterday on a podcast I think I don't think there were two people on this team that were advocating for for LG I think I was among the only ones you want to be only one actually yeah he has in his seven which was like five years ago yeah and people said that the build quality is bad that there is no support for the phones but now with the Optimus G and with the nexus for LG proved that they are right there I mean as far as I'm concerned I have not yet touched the nexus 4 because of availability issues but from what i see it is better built than some other android phones made my companies which are better regarded than LG yeah and if they continue to do that and to follow on this trend then i think they will be a player this year not if they keep doing stuff like oh oh yeah that oh god the winner by midnight remember do you remember WC oh god I was like what am I supposed to do with this I'm staying side awake be do you guys know that there will be a LG 5.5 inch phablet on display this year at MVC oh please now look here maybe let me put it let me put it to you in perspective there was an LG Optimus view to at CES yeah to and we were like uh we save us huh you see the view to se yes I I didn't really see it but I remember you guys just came up and we're like should we I was like forget it yeah that wasn't such a good idea maybe because you get four by four yes but you you haven't you haven't got any software updates to correct the spelling mistakes permanent I haven't turned this on since today and it's going on if the problem is is just so wide like it this misses the point of a mobile device like I won't even want to put us on my coffee table and yes and it's so weird because i was so turned off by this phone because of the interface you almost look like this go ahead you met you make that ipad mini look small man yeah but they deal with hmm man you met you make that ipad mini look small you can calm it for sure seriously it's just so different than the optimus G it's it's remarkable I don't know my opinion of phablets have changed I still using the note 2 I I can't put this thing down are you know okay so here's the deal I am really disappointed at the fact that this is really just the galaxy s3 with a bigger display meaning there's really nothing different if this were debating teaser processor in a slightly faster processor yes but if this were a 1080p display then it would make sense because you could have more icons on the screen and for example you you did the best out of the first generation node Brandon with rooting and installing I don't know what rom was it that allowed you to change the pixel density to change the pixel density exactly so I feel that the only thing that i would change about this note it is seriously the fact that you know it's really just the gs3 with a bigger display but that said you know even though the S Pen is really not something that I use a lot here's the reason why why I like it I like the multiscreen thing I really liked it a lot I use it a lot what do you use it for I'm playing videos at the top and and got either looking at Twitter or eating an onion at the bottom yeah let me in that scenario where there's a video on the top and there's email in the bottom what does the keyboard look like when it's on the boat it's terrible you can't work all right I really I really haven't let me get let me look for something I really haven't tried it with the Samsung keyboard I immediately installed swiftkey on any Android phone that I could get but let me try to get by the way I think I just did while you're doing that I think I invited people the wrong way because I've had gone in and I've invited like 25 people by now but it doesn't keep track of them which makes me think that you can only add them at one time so actually wanna do that now I'm going to add them all in one turns though that they need to be in our circles or at least and I think so I don't think so I wasn't able to see your guys video because this account didn't have you guys in my circles it's cuz it's nyoka oh well that might be the case but I'm trying just in case there's a there's a bug in the matrix okay so see here goes a CS behind the scenes which will take forever cuz i have Wi-Fi turned off right now all right hold on a second I've got this green earth say yours I can't I can't see hold on i'm in the ayat and white screen okay he just minimized you guys I just I just minimize your face mofo Oh interesting yes what I did it's a total uh okay almost done let me see on Twitter's a couple minutes on that okay uh hang out okay I step all right I should do it now we just sit now we just sit back and listen and let the let Brandon do his magic uh yeah Simon let's see what you got okay hold on I lost I lost something here so Twitter works fired because it creates a pop up over the window like if I if I'm playing a video at the top and then I want to post a tweet it'll throw the pop up on top and show me the full keyboard got it and still play the play the video at the top but then let me try to get rid of okay so I want to do this I want to keep the video and I want to pull whatsapp and whatsapp let's see if I can see here's the video so here I have whatsapp at the bottom but I can't see anything that I'm typing oh right because the keyboard covers it exactly hmm that's cray so the good thing is you can actually resize but then again it becomes pointless because you can't see the videos so if there were much better pixel density then this would not be an issue or a higher resolution yeah the other thing about Swifty's you can actually resize the keyboard but you have to do it every turn so that's when it becomes point that's annoying when they increase the resolution oh god no I was about to say that you cannot write an email while you're watching a video on youtube not really but but but but like in memorial nah mobilizers and CES navigating while being on Twitter that was cool that was cool um but what manufacturers are doing when they increase the screen resolution they're not increasing the pixel density they're just making the icons and stuff have more resolution like apples done with the ipad 2 versus the ipad freiburg yeah what they what they do is is is quadruple the pixels if that that make the the icons and actually they they they duplicate the size of the icons it's like this Retina Display MacBook Pro is a real you know aside from everything that's cool about it what really annoys me is when I want to take a screenshot so for example if I if I want to take a 1280 by 720 screenshot for you to book for one of our videos it will tell me that it's 1280 by 720 but it's actually only hypothetical because that if that whatever it gives you have to multiply that by 4 so once you once you export the image into Photoshop it you get this huge image that you have to resize drink yeah so i don't know i think i think that they I think manufacturers really have to figure out what they want for retina display graphics because sadly we are still though I said in so many so much time ago when the ipad came out the third-generation ipad I mean the internet is really not ready for retina display graphics very few websites are off to my sport it's true if I want to take it so what's the point about having a retina display on this macbook pro if every website that i visit almost ninety percent of the websites that i visit look jagged because only the text looks good intent yeah hey hey Tony what phone you're using is i'm using the iphone 5 and the drumroll do I have drumroll here ah of course you're using that quinta we're gonna call you captain to phone speaking of Captain do phones where's Michael Fisher get him on you he should be having breakfast with one of his colleagues so I'm not sure we will be able to reach him but I'm gonna try let me just shoot him a short game reckless isn't it like 1pm in the United States right yeah maybe he cannot join over his phone all right but I don't think you can do a hangout on a Lumia 920 no that's a low blow Hey oh he's got most probably he's got you know to me hey hey hey we got someone nicely there somebody wants to see us yeah I just wanted to say hi Saudi invited from the facebook and signed it so I just want you to see all guys and tell you that um the regular reader everyday reader you for three years yes I got since I got my hd2 three years ago we have heard in room yeah he just refuses to die now my mom has it fuji s true yeah everyone take out your hd2 what's that oh wait a second come on oh oh it's like your jacket the century here's my touch pro2 fine all right that's good too oh come on i still keep this thing this is like the best phone ever hey Mark who are you from I'm from Serbia and yes Serbia that's salt early honorably pitcher yeah oh yeah oh here's mine oh here's my hd2 yeah this is great where's the applause by this wait here it is you're running so check check it out you're running a what ice cream say on John your hd2 no I'm actually running jellybean from nexus that's a 40 point one point two how is the how is the user experience I mean I know that the HD as it has an old one gigahertz processor it's lagging at times or is project butter and jelly bean doing its job as it should know it's really snappy uh I can I can show you if you can see this yellow first try yeah we can see that sort of stopped off Israel let me see his camera i'll just select just select this icon oh I'm such a noob uh yeah you're an amateur you're a mature man look at that that is amazing yeah it's it's running you know it's a bear phone only only jelly bean from access and doesn't have anything almost anything else because actually my mom really doesn't need anything else installed on the device she just she's just using it for four convoys you know in texts and will occasionally internet via Wi-Fi home by five so we didn't mean anything else so too Pleasant succeed you set that up for your mom what are you using i'm using a history uh everybody pull out your gns3 now yeah I did actually in the car well my gs3 now yeah uh actually I'm uh on the Hangout we are gs3 so really nice yeah so it is possible from the phone yeah yeah you see the conference yeah map just one question getting back to the hd2 because i'm really interested how much time does it take you to boot up the phone if you shut it out out overnight so a cold boot into android hmm hold on Proxima or we're going to we're going to approximately it's it's really fast I need still to make selection on the on that ugly boot screen you know is I'm gonna boot my hd2 into stock windows phone 6.5 and you're going to boot your hd2 into android 4.2 jelly bean nice okay I'm ready for this he's gonna turn it off turn it off completely shut it down you guys are killing want to reboot Oh or shut up shut it down and then we're gonna count down from three to one and when I say go we're gonna power them on so shut it down you guys are killing me here come on I have died with every round I'm gonna turn mine on too I'm running out windows front seven series on 07 series is going to I think I need to plug it in I need to plug it in hold on don't don't do this without me I'll I'm not go Monaco is still just is still shutting down shall no problem yeah yeah okay hold on it's way for Brandan I don't think my job might start it up ok that's ok let me unplug it and then take out the battery I don't think my touch pro2 actually has a battery working because windows phone 7 already starts up when you plug it in yeah oh that's true that's lame okay everybody ready for a gun down yeah ok so here we go when I say go you borrowed on three two one go whoa alright alright something's happening now look at Marcos Marcos is already rocking man look at that all me wow that's amazing that I got it like she's down ah look at that engine mind cyanogenmod rules variously oh yeah that's why I'm booting HTC Sense right now and I'm done I'm disqualified mine's in an endless reboot loop I've done I'm an HTC Sense all right all right wanna see Marcos man dad that's so good that's stuff pretty cool I haven't raised there look at that III think that's faster than my fricking 8x that's fast seriously do you guys remember to calm manager Oh God oh you know I was so tempted and I'm not gonna lie to guys like like oh like a month ago I was really tempted to buy one of those phones on amazon and the only reason why I didn't you know it's just the relic just something to keep but the only reason why I didn't is because it doesn't have any 3g band so I would seriously not use it at all hey hi my check out the reason why you're not why you did not get this phone check out the icons at the top I told you the radios busted Oh true true oh yeah yeah yeah so the problem is that phone doesn't have 3g in my country so you know if i'm gonna be using that phone rocking edge it's not worth it not if I can go tablet no actually guys I don't have an 8th 1st up to be honest and of yeah i'm just using ps3 for to play my media I listen to music like for four hours per day five on my headphones on a lunch break love and that's that that's the main purpose and the rest are emails chat clients hang out with my friends and multitasking multi-window support on gs3 is really great huge hobbies yeah yeah yeah I got the update it's official over-the-air updates we are my courier they have been really really really fast in Serbia for pushing helping it out like one month after I read about you on the naughty nice and you know you make a really compelling point about tablets um how often do you use your tablet Tony for example because I love my ipad mini but I honestly used it very little I use it every day I use it every day and for like two or three hours per day really when I wake up in the morning well I have breakfast or while I drinking my coffee my tablet is my computer obviously I cannot bring my huge computer to the kitchen then again don't worry if I go have lunch or something outsider at the fast-food the tablet comes with me and then of course every night before going to sleep the tablet comes with me into bed which is very lame but yes it comes to me replying you like and you hug him everything and you're like no and then I just throw it throw it and it lands somewhere in the in the in the room and sometimes in the evening or at night when i wake up to go drink some water i usually step on it yeah I I think that's the prob what about you Brandon it's slowly dim for me actually I hope my wife's not watching because I'm don't when I'm hanging out with my wife at night and we're like you know watching TV or whatever it's really not acceptable that I would take out my laptop and start working away but if I take out my tablet then it's like I'm not really working I'm just browsing the web you know but I'm sitting with my psychic yeah I'm the guy with the special offensive Monaco brings out the emoticons really really really I I don't know for me I think you've made a point Tony when I had the imac i would use the ipad more but you know but the thing is i had the imac i had the macbook air and i had laid the ipad so I got rid of the macbook care i got rid of the imac and now all i have is the macbook pro and that i don't know it's just it's merely i literally you guys difference true i can't bring this to bed but i can bring this to Ben and I sold my full-sized iPad for the mini hey Marco what's your next phone I don't know probably something which some flagship on the market next year or the year or 202 1414 annabelle flagship eyes can sage the 2 i'm determined to buy a flagship Ariana this is a contract up yeah amount but I have a discard and discount discount and everything so I'm kind of embarrassed to say how cheap and how how data plan I have yeah I did I dare you I think I have a cheaper data plan than you how much do you pay I pay I pay hold on about 25 bucks per month for 2,000 minutes 2000 SMS and 2 gigabytes and when I when I spent that I have one more thousand minutes in my phone network okay are you ready for this yeah so I'm paying three dollars per month and walls unlimited data unlimited SMS unlimited internet hell are you talking bleep weed how are you doing what did you pay like 4,000 for the handset and your monthly bills 30 no my isp is usually delivering also TV land lines mobile phones and internet and I had the entire package and when I added a mobile phone they just said okay here's a great rate for you you pay nothing for this number and you can basically have unlimited calls unlimited text unlimited data and unlimited internet okay how much do you pay for the whole package the whole package is Kenneth can anybody divide 102 by three point 25 crap I've got so many phones are no calculators 1/3 point what 25 31 that's the whole package with land line with TV with free mobile phones are you a dongle God everything so that's everything digital in my home okay so I pay for uh you know what pisses me off the most tony is you get a hundred megabit per second download speeds I do okay so here's the deal yes I I pay who doesn't come on come on okay so I pay a $75 a month 45 megabits kendo man 5 that sometimes doesn't work it's it yeah yeah i think i would add i got five megabits per second my phone okay so and that we got someone else well Andrew welcome Andrew we can't see your face it's all shadows you would pick a shadowy figure your back lit yeah you have to move the camera from the window turn around turn on and I can't hear you but anyways here's thank you for joining us Andrew what phone do you use iphone iphone which one is that no audio from missing i cannot hear you maybe there's your microphone might be muted or something like that yay hold on you then somebody somebody take the keyboard away from Tony yes please do so it's brain control where you where you from Andrew Oh Pennsylvania me too where are you from in Pennsylvania oh I love in their town not too far i'm near philly oh yeah it's not far at all not far off so you use the iphone interesting why to use the iphone oh well i should i've been an Android user for a couple years now and i decided to switch over to a little while was it was it hard to make the transition like did you have to rebuy apps no not really cause everything on android astray that's true doesn't it anyway interesting interview that I know that actually switches from Android to get an iphone i was about to say exactly that yeah it's rare that a cute it's usually the other way around people get an iphone and then they switch to android yeah i'll be going back to enjoy pretty soon but you know i wanted to try it out is how is it so far it's good i mean there's a lot of apps that I'm used to being free but i'd pay for and that's kind of annoying yeah yeah it's you gotta make the adjustment yeah how about you margot have you ever tried an iphone oh well let me put it this way i'm not a big fan of apple products uh but let's just keep it that way okay all right all right and what's happened to you use Andrew I don't have any tablet right now nice I mean I'm use well did you get ah Polly their nexus 10 into the ipad 4 hmm interesting we're all moving into smaller tablets but then usually first adopters would prefer to go for the bigger tablets for some reason even if the smaller ones are cheaper that's interesting yeah mark is back yeah Arabic huh my hands are here finishing touch their products they don't consume will help the deer hunter you know yeah yeah um ok we think it's really feels good in home I front of my friends and above average phone but you know I'm kind of Korea Ivan fan yeah yeah and i think you know android is like the windows mobile of these times anyway so yeah you're pretty much a bad yeah you're pretty much in your territory hot guys it's just that i'm personally not much into 2 i'm uh i don't like that kind of talk you know that Apple housing really and he froze and we're frozen can you guys hear me yes mar get up or soda so going back to what i was telling you guys Tony I can't believe you freakin paid 25 bucks for everything nice okay I pay seventy five dollars for cable plus the internet MN I paid $25 for the data plan of each of the phones that I use and I carry two phones so I pretty much pay hundred twenty-five bucks to be connected and I get like the crappiest connection on the planet and then you get like the best connection on together for 25 that's I leave that come on hey you don't hate the player hey are you are you drawing your galaxy note 2 at the camera guys before before I get a refill on this I have a question for Marco because Marco and I are very close actually if I go dry of two hours I'm in Serbia so Marco all right have you ever had the opportunity to play with a Windows RT tablet because i have only managed to do that at Eva no actually no and I wasn't even looking at the opportunity to do are they are the younger market sure you have huge retailers or carriers as they're an offer no well you can't really go into shopping mall here and just buy one or sisters or or go to a carrier store and buy RT tablet they don't have such thing bring some mana not much we go stuffed yeah yeah most how many windows RT tablets are in the market I mean do we have like three or four currently being sold I think this is just a surface yeah yeah i think you know i am truly i think you're right i think it's the surface and then they've got the achieve smelly tee you ready at teeth get cancelled actually i know they're actually selling it on AT&T that the smart pc no it's been it's been the RT running when a samsung tablet is not going to go to the state so it's just canceled in the States but not everyone else but we we actually saw the AT&T version on at CES remember Brandon yeah yeah we saw it I I know they sell it on AT&T I've actually even speed it on on the website so i don't know i think it's that a TV smart pc and then it's the Microsoft Surface that I terribly hate don't ask me why yeah hey guys I don't mean to cut this short but we wanted to do this for about an hour we're gonna have to wrap it up here um does anyone have had last two or three minutes anyone have anything to say to do this video you can like dance around and Rick you ah well whenever I know hang out just to say say again two guys that you can stroke and I'll be following you every day you know twitterfacebook yours websites pocketnow.com and brothers reviews for 38 years over thee and now when you have all these guys know Michael Fisher and you guys here and everyone I'm written a lot about it and just oh yeah we lost him beef and these guys thank you what about you Andrew any final thoughts make us feel good I've been watching you guys for a while but I've been working a lot so it's kind of hard to follow up you know yeah sure sounds but keep up the good work thanks madam thanks for thanks for joining us I keep doing this after the buzz oh I enjoy watching them oh well have will have one next week so stay gonna be just for you will have one next week alright next week we have the windows phone 8x and I think that's not much like yeah I had to fish around so I'm gonna enjoy that one yeah so I've actually got it i'm gonna be doing it and it's gonna be a really interesting one because it's actually my first Windows Phone 8 and not really happy they have been the boss wore off they haven't improved the app selection at all happening exactly i mean and everybody's like oh the app selection isn't everything and I'm like well yes it is it with the phone I'm all right in this day and age it is very important I mean if this were like five years ago I'd understand that point but right now that's not the way things work well most phones didn't even have an app store five years ago exactly exactly but the problem is once you taste I mean if once you taste the the beauty of having apps it's it's really hard to go back its crew that's apples fall I think it is I think it I think it really is I mean and think about I mean as I've exist that ever since the palm days and everything I mean it's it's not something new i just i think apple just figured out a way to distribute better and people can really access it I mean the only be only to be honest with you guys the only reason why I'm really fond of the iphone is because I hear a song i like it and i buy it it happens right there instantly and you doing here son I like and I Spotify it well I do that now I do that now but but the point is you know whenever you're with a windows phone and you have to actually choose or you get an alternate option for a third party app that really seems you're like whatever all right well I'm gonna I'm gonna boot off thank you thanks again Andrew an open so you thank you pleasure all right so guys I have some news first or what I see are we stuck here or is it my connection that is stuck or what's going on I see four of us well no no that's that's fine it's a here that's gone um so I think that I was supposed to be the cameraman and that the camera might have been stuck on like one of you guys for like the whole time but but if you look at the live stream you can still see along the bottom there's all of our pictures so anyway learning process point is sorry people that are watching if this was not ideal it's our first one maybe we'll do one every Friday if ya guys like it and hopefully we can get more participants Marco and Andrew thanks again and well and I think that feedback is important so comments thumbs up whatever you guys can do just let us know do you want us to continue doing this I know our faces are ugly especially you know what the horns and everything but inside there it's either you want it or not let us know all right well I'm gonna hit the end broadcast button see what happens good Bob it's going to end the broadcast let's see