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countdown and yes we're why I believe we are live I'm gonna play a Tony here good morning good evening good afternoon everyone did I miss anything Tony no you're not this is our first editorial round table for 2014 and the reason why is because the previous ones we've been on the shows either we've been at CES a tour at mwc live and the whole team is just put out this has just been impossible but we love the fact that we're back to our first editorial roundtable where we go through the opinions of everything that we saw at this event so you know exactly what we think about what we just saw so first of all let's start with a little roll call here mr. Taylor Martin senior editor how are you I'm good I'm good still trying to catch up with the whirlwind of getting this thing set up so I don't know what's happening right now well you see on you look good and then we've got our own editor-in-chief mr. Anton d Nagy good to see you hi everybody good to be here I'm happy that I finally don't have to post another HTC m8 League post I see some temporary Romanian license plates over your once I got the final ones oh so now is when I need to go to Romania know is what I need to go and now we've got our own senior editor Adam Lane for the first time in our editorial round table and Michael Fisher on the show floor hello to you guys hello gentlemen that falls to be the same low forehead i'm laying his devices still love getting caught up with our hangout he's using a surface that's the problem it's using a certain stupid I will have you know it's working just fine all right so we have Q&A enabled us for anybody that wants leave is a question but for some reason google hangouts changes every single like 30 seconds of a day so we don't know if it's really working for you guys please drop some questions there if not you can find this on twitter as well at pocket now and hopefully you can send us your questions here but overall this is the HTC One m8 round table I'm Michael out after the event what should we call this thing the audio HTC One the HTC One m8 the NL 1 2014 so all that all that bullsh is dropped it's just the HTC One m8 so it ruins the elegant some of the elegance of the HTC one friend is Islam but I would be very surprised if they didn't events we drop the MA so you're saying that actually the codename the m8 is as of now a official part of the official name of the product yeah we're looking at a lot of banners around here HTC One m8 subscript indices so so it's like we saw in the past with the One X and the 1s and the 1v right ah yes except of course in and out it's an eight right it's a little different you know I don't think it's too bad I think it's some almost necessary but it's a really bad way of doing it because how are they gonna they're gonna have to HTC one's and name one the 2013 in the 2014 we never saw at all period ed the next is seven with the goggle no no we have just not from HTC not from HTC correct right so that would have been one way to go they could have been it could've been the one two or the one plus with one pro I mean there's just no so that's the question right there was that trap how do we do this how do we actually make this effective effectively separate this from the m7 without making ridiculous because if you call it is the one do we would be hello Ellen right now yeah we will we will but but tell us about the event Michael how was it overall I mean I I don't know about you guys but I really do love your child's or Peter true it is that's the correct way to pronounce it was good a shout and so how the good years I know I know but when but when the the company's chairman cher Wang came on stage as we were in Barcelona with Tony she called them Peter chew so I guess Peter chu is the correct way just like Jaime that eyes the correct way hey Adam good to see you dude hey so so tell us tell us guys I mean how what are your impressions of the event I love his showmanship what do you guys think you know I thought that it was I thought it was really presented certainly there were things a lot of emphasis on your 60 seniors completing what about this is our identity the MA deuce it rises tomorrow I'm going to end an intrical track problems hearing what you're saying so Adam can you please mute your microphone yeah we're gonna have to meet one of you guys because there's just we're getting feedback from both of you sorry about your that actually we're hearing yet him better than my yeah we're getting her hearing Adam better actually just kidding me and Adam just muted himself yeah yeah and I'll let Adam talk for a second okay let's let's do that okay anything you can hear me now perfectly yeah service sounds really annoyed me that they it really annoyed me that the color temperature of the lighting was different on the people than it was on the background so yeah the people were orange electrical problem 44 the camera it's a 4 megapixel camera eyes do you think that's got a mess it up more than it did on once i got you know if it's a timid feedback yeah this way with i just picked Adam out of some spots okay I'm the best ever can you do a rundown of the spec so that we know know what we're talking about with this huge what am I wish it'd probably mentioned that the review is tough at pocketing out right now and along with a bunch of comparisons but looking at a Snapdragon 801 running a 2.4 gigahertz and Western Asia it's a 5 gigahertz then 2 gigs of RAM microSD which is great for 228 gigs and 16 and 32 gig flavor Tony of course he recovered by the candle which is an entirely entirely different conversation oh my god yes this is going to be an entirely different conversation but you know overall you felt that the event was good Michael you felt how what was your impression of the event so far I think we know the press event is really difficult to to extensive Adam just walk across a room ready listen it we have high speed internet been well taken care of there's interviews going on all around where it's really nice to see it takes hi everything there's nothing bad to say good good and well for those of you that didn't know we have our full view of the HTC one is already like the m8 we have a full comparison of the HTC One 2014 m8 with the n7 with this last year's phone we have a comparison between HTC's One m8 and the samsung galaxy s lineup because obviously we have the galaxy s4 right now but the galaxy s5 will not be ready until next month so we have a michael did this really cool comparison of what we can expect from either of these offerings that you would like and we also have the unboxing because yeah we can't live without unboxings that's just the way it is oh absolutely and the important thing about the advancing is that not only the HTC throw in the headphones that they usually do but they also through payson but yeah on a device like this which is not like which is which is gorgeous but also not necessarily one of the most durable products ever probably on a scratch resistance example it's nice to have a base in the box so hopefully American errors don't screw it up too much oh they will happen yeah you're you know and for instance I mean Tony you've told me and I actually got to try those headphones out while i was in Romania and I mean hey for bundled headphones those are probably the best sounding headphones ever yes and that's what I said that I think that either the headphones themselves or or the combination between the headphones and whatever HTC did would that beats audio thing resulted in perfect audio at one point there was a speculation that those bungled headphones were actually some lower and beats by dr. dre headphones but I don't think that that's the case but still sounded perfectly with the with the HTC One given that they are muddled yeah yeah so Michael overall you've been using the device for what six days we've been under embargo I think we know you don't have any problems I was on mute just to keep the noise down yes we were using the device for six days and actually seven now and yeah that's what a lot of us all the time if you needed to forget for rice before dropping out extra step now yeah my Adam work I gotta for the world are you forget of you do it sorry guys I I can't be close to me I'm agree good i'll show you stuck in the other room and adam we're gonna need to meet you man sorry yeah Adam so Adam actually just had a great idea is going out to the to the other room to broadcast I see from so yeah it's good mutum he's using the front-facing am running service do so this is an interesting thing see we get some footage awesome but that's the first thing I heard one say you started talking about cameras at the step be very important thing I've heard is someone anything to say yeah hmm so you know that is something that it's really difficult to overcome if we were talking about 16 I really think it is quite hard to get past four megapixel primary shooter in suit you know honestly I've you've tested the phone I've obviously seen your videos already you can watch them now they're all alive the playlists already created and our full review is already live as well written and everything um I mean Michael I I don't know dude I'm kind of disappointed that this this was gonna be my phone for 2014 and I've come to a point where I'm like oh my god I mean mega think i'm sorry but i have a Retina display computer megapixels do matter in this computer I mean whenever I get a 4 megapixel shot it's like this small in the display yeah I mean I guess that's sure I don't have a Retina display on my machine but I do use high res tablets all the time to be my own maybe i'm just very easy to clean I don't need to get bothered by it my frustration is not so much with the end result the quality of the photo camera because honestly for ninety percent of pieces we're going to be posting the face to Instagram Twitter whatever these images are already losing contestants it's not fatal plus we have the people making things up so late that's not the restoration subsection C isn't perhaps we'd like to see any meaningful progress from last year to this year and then cutting us off one feature that I really like the Wiz yeah I have managed I have managed to cut some slack to HTC last year and I was about the person on pocket now who was the most pissed about the ultrapixel camera and I'm no longer willing to cut them slack they should have learned I no longer buying that thing that 4 megapixels is enough for you for facebook for Instagram no no forget about that just do a regular camera and you know what they've taken the camera from the HTC One they removed o is add another thing that creates bouquet effects well nakia does that with a single camera and the software side but not carry focus so I'm what I'm saying is I'm no longer buying this bull thing that well it's enough for your facebook and social needs no no I one more no it's not how about you Taylor how do you feel yeah so I was really convinced that the the one was gonna be or the m8 was gonna be the phone that I was going to buy it because I galaxy s5 not at all even on my radar don't even like it it's not my thing um so that left the z2 which still kind of not my thing the one and who knows what else um now I'm not even really that interested in the one because the camera experience for me is a very big thing I'm dealing with the Moto X the camera on the Moto X is not great it's horrible and I'm left thinking like I mean I would rather use the we're gonna have to get Adam to view again yeah you can do it he's just a lot of a lot of ambient noise I am there and yeah it's just a 4 megapixel camera I understand that they're doing some sort of innovation in that they're using stereoscopic cameras but I really don't care as much as having a camera that can take a nice picture by itself I would rather have an 8 or 13 megapixel camera they can take decent photos than a 4 megapixel camera that can take decent photos and create some sort of fake depth of field that mean it's it tell me something any it is it your impression or is it just me but do I why is it that i feel that i already have a not necessarily a better smartphone but a good enough smart phone to compare with the one I mean I've got to know three and i use a 5s i mean i've got a great camera here I mean the only thing that I'm missing here is boom sound is going to be a tough sell for for HTC because you remember we were in Barcelona and we've seen the galaxy s5 and again galaxy s5 was much below what we expected and at that point we didn't know what to expect from from vm eight and we thought that this might be HTC's chance if they fix all the problems AKA removable battery it's still non-removable not that I care but a lot of people seem to do hey Dad I don't see that quite honestly I don't see that being an issue and we we've had not the Nokia is a great example of like stellar success in terms of sales but that exactly for hosting yeah we creator there's a segment who cares about it they did not address that but that's a small chunk of the market but then there was the microSD card thing and it is included and my biggest rank was the camera and HTC not only did not fix the camera but they downgraded if possible yeah so they we have Adam hearing I think we should not waste the opportunity to yeah Adam yeah we have a full professional photographer here come on Adam tell us your impression to tell us yet that they've refocusing thing yeah yeah just too horrible it wasn't even doing the depth very well I can conceive into the foreground were in focus that weren't supposed to be if it was a real character yeah yeah Adam leaned over to me at one point and said wow you can see the seam in the bouquet effect and that's very true I mean if it works well it you know it can look pretty cool but it's some do you think it's worth the addition of that little secondary I ball up there it doesn't compare to the way the network which you have to hold still for a long time to do the depth but I think that matters on know it and really at Adam you're a photographer man I mean whenever you want to really create that shallow depth of field effect I mean you take your time you're not like oh you're not gonna want to go like snap and oh you're expecting for that to happen you're like oh wow this is a great photo opportunity you stop you take your time you take a couple of shots until you get it right so I mean athlete subject yeah it's gas style something moving quickly you need a quick Strutter to get that yes yes and speaking of which I think we which i should mention that one good thing about this dedicated depth sensor is that it does allow the camera to grab focus very very quickly meaning that if you're shooting in an absolutely dark room which I did a couple times of review the camera is able to get focused with that with that flash like instantly well Michael please clarify something for me and I'm sure others also have this question that secondary eyeball on the top it's not a camera or is that just a sensor or doesn't have a Salter it's just a sensor that that gauge its def so he's not a camera per se it's pretty much like the heart rate monitor on the s5 which is just a sensor yeah it's a camera that behaves as a sensor I guess yeah I think hi Mei hasn't right i mean i think it's a cabman it's an optical sensor that is the enemy because it has the leg sitting that's the exciting for me if you think about the potential of it because they know HTC's can release the SDKs with that thing so I'm not that I'm confident that this will necessarily happen but there are a lot of smart developers out here I don't know you think any of situations where a developer can write some software to take advantage of that dedicating and it's different if they can attach to the video you've been kind of do still picture to the move separately from background talking about doing some some more artsy effects yeah yeah yeah now Adam I Adam I know you're more of a windows phone guy but would you I mean if you had the money and you want an android phone would this be the phone that you would get or or this apartment oh definitely get this over interesting interesting yeah even with its what do they call it I can't even think of its HDR mode is oh my god she has funny face super rich ultra glam obvious now overall if you have not seen Michaels comparison of the m7 and the m8 please do look at it it's live but I want to hear Michael you're not reviewer but your user perception your you've been using the m7 on your left hand and the emek in your right hand from a day-to-day usage perspective scenario would I as a user require or what I need to upgrade to the m8 or is my m7 still a cash bail so that isn't that's a really really good question because so many of the improvements we saw today in the new blinkfeed have been up in the new phone our software right so yeah I bet I look like I'm squeezing with other mistake oh sorry kobo interrupt the question is valid and it's an open question as to whether these software thinking's would be an operational you're the hold on to the n7 system software but i have to tell you the feel in hand of the m8 is unlike anything that I've felt in terms of nothing yeah and I've heard that most of the software things including sense will come to the m7 c lane to the same time so that's that's the component if all you're looking for is a sophomore enhance and odds are of what you want is going to come to the end setting to get sense sext it's going to get that teenagers the FCC has promised to that fancy software a great time but the hardware improvement first of all the 5-inch screen is very nice but in the bluesound agreements are substantial yes bm7 is already an excellent audio platform yeah I can't overstate how impressive is improved on that in terms of volume dynamics of it this hard work is better in every way no let me ask you something because I noticed this on the video but we haven't really had a chance to talk about this because you're on it you've been on NBA with that device um so it on the on the display oh where the speaker grill is is that glass or is that aluminum like on the m7 so where the speaker grill is on them on the front above and below the display yeah you seen Walter put into yeah the question seems impossible I mean it looks like glass no it's not glad it's brushed so it has the same brush defect as the aluminum onda on the back plate but how you want to think it's a little we have to ask about it should be it should be aluminum because it is aluminum on the m7 as its aluminum on the m7 right but on the NAI I was looking at me at your micro shots and and I see them sort of a reflection in the speaker grill yeah but really because of the brushed thing of and it's also a darker it's not the natural aluminum but it's the black one this is something we can we can ask here and i'll see if i can get an answer but done HTC has gone back again and again and said that where the m7 was seventy percent aluminum this is ninety percent aluminum Jason and you only go I can see to get ten percent worth of plastic in there is their kind of over the last three the only way up until you get ten percent classical there is to put the place go to talk about the screen I think that's what I think it's polycarbonate with in effect but that's not confirmed i'll go find out the way Michael what would you improve on the m8 for me it's the camera in the camera I would I would ditch the duo and I'm going to start with OAS and a higher resolution so if this would have had a 16 megapixel Elias supported camera it would have been the phone if if this is gonna quick Leslie I might've I might have given it a talent I know I'm gonna tell you this guy's i mean i've seen so much sand you know after this whole collaboration and licensing deal between HTC and apple you know we have that true tone flash on the on the m8 for example that i'm not sure we have the true tone flash I mean we have the three colors just like the iphone has and then we've seen a lot of HTC's enhancements on the iphone 5s as well will you seen this sort of collaboration i mean i can't really understand why couldn't they have collaborate on the damn camera and a look at the iphone's camera on the m8 and that would have made this is the perfect phone it's a good question i will say well we're talking about the camera that the software improvements are very welcome once again Tony as you said you know those are some of the improvements that we welcome to the m7 but the noob you plunder is stellar the features that ship with no cars are excellent so if you are give HTC 10 hoop this happen takes to the way from negative look like they tried to do with the m7 and they didn't succeed I really think they didn't they succeeded to a degree but they didn't do it enough because the marketing volume was not an opportunity but if they're able to do that I really think this candle would be a lot of fun for a lot not people like that if you want I'll tell you this much and and I I think that I didn't really get the grasp of this until Tony let me use the Lumia 1020 for a couple of days obviously this is a phone in another category this is a camera that's also a phone but what is the advantage of megapixels let's forget about the whole retina display argument and everything but you know there are some shots that I take with the iphone that don't necessarily look good but then I'm glad that I'm able to zoom into them and cut the piece that I like and have the thumb and have the photo still look usable the problem with using the four megapixel shot is that what you took is what you get if you use oom into that thing or crop a little portion of it easy to be a very small shot yeah we're talking about devices we're talking about a 4 megapixel camera in an age where we have 2k displays on tablets and phones the exact looking yeah and also i wanna i want to make the point that also in addition it's not just the megapixel objection pond you know it's great to have low light performance from a camera and we loved how its able to pull all that light from the scene but noise sacrifice that it makes once again you're now it's fine with it last year to see that much noise sink the same basic performance in low light with the exception of a little better than white balance and open that's disappointing I um I'm looking forward for me a HTC One m8 plus which will have a flash on the front firing camera come on Daniel in terms of battery life because this because I'd okay I just want to say that I object with what you said Michael and I want to hear your rebuttal on this you said that most people ninety percent of people who would buy this phone would be okay with the camera performance but our people actually going to buy it because what a main consumers or basic consumers typically go for mega pixel counts they don't care about all the other stuff they they listen to marketing and they buy what you know they sell I think it sounds better I think you're right that they listen to marketing and that's why I said that HTC is going to have a smog ahead of it in terms of friend profession so I think you're violently agreeing with you because you're a dork okay guys guys I know you guys are running out of battery Michael are you keeping this phone or are you waiting for something else are you satisfied after your review over or are you going back to your 1020 I the Moto X would be there on the net go back soon and honestly I think I would hurt this you know what i mean and i don't mean because i'm a rough-and-tumble guy river but this is carrying this around i said this about other from before but it's torture here than ever before kind of feels like Keira Knightley's and jewelry this is the phone i would keep around for for an expensive night out to dinner where i wanted to wear a student in pain you're so mean i wouldn't a nurse i wouldnt serious i could I wouldn't take this boat yes dangle it like a pendant and i right you look Flav I hate a heavy pendant but Adam ok so we've heard that you you agree that you you would definitely get this phone if youíve Android was the only operating system on the planet right well looking at the camera just now I tested in few shots it's pretty noisy so I don't know Adam by the way is going to spend some time with the HTC one m7 yeah I'll try that cool cool cool just Kato it like dealin yeah you know I like HTC sense anymore I you know to be honest with you the only reason why I want to try that phone is because I do like HTC Sense am I the only one service plan another you're not the only person time actually when i use the google play edition of the HTC one for a while then blasters it's too um i got missed sense i really think it's a very nice engine with a hardware between our own software I ma'am and it's impossible to slow down I can slow down kitkat on the Moto X more easily than I can slow down since six now tell me something I already I already watched your review and everything but tell us about the battery overall you did mention in a new review but overall it's a you know we need more testing the view period was so like I had to keep this thing topped up all the time what you stream power saver mode is awesome because apparently it guarantees it'll give you like something ridiculous like 30 hours of standby at ten percent in two weeks is San by boundaries i think it's just not nice wow what a nice religiously well go ahead go ahead and Taylor come on um I was just skimming through your review I didn't get to read it yet but I was going through the pricing and they did announce a google play edition correct correct yeah that isn't asked seven hundred dollars you know huh if you're the type of person that's gonna buy a google play edition device I don't think it's that I don't think if that was more expensive than the m7 was gonna promote dude i paid eight hundred fifty dollars for this one I mean yeah and Vinny guys when you actually hold this thing it is it is very easy to understand why someone who pay that amount of money for this I don't understand why people would do it for another device you know either set of devices that are maybe made of poly are visiting but this this is just feel instantly working we need to get about you know it was an expensive absolutely not I agree with you it is very clear to me that HTC is positioning the one as a premium product as the highest and in luxury and performance and everything I just wish they didn't wouldn't have crippled it with some of the I think basic things which a smartphone has to have in 2015 I guess that's the camera Tony I don't know what goes it is the camera for me the camera but the cameras big enough man I mean we've got companies like Nokia making big investments on pier view we've got you know a samsung adding an extra lens to that to that you know to the casing we've got Apple doing the same with the iphone 5 with the six the rumors are there already experimenting you know so the problem is this phone feels two years old when it comes to the camera and that is really a problem because you know hey you go to Facebook and your photos get bigger and bigger more resolution as being added to these and you know it just makes the argument difficult I think if this were a company known for its effective and prevalent marketing messages this could we can treat me as a non-issue but we can't and honestly we haven't heard enough about the new marketing intentions how to know whether they'll be successful or not but that'll be the thing to watch with me with the one you know how you know I think that the comparison that I don't want to see I want to see this comparison from you Michael is the desire age 16 compared to the one existing a 16 megapixel shooter from HTC compared to a 4 megapixel shooter or probably we can do the front-facing camera comparison I don't know I mean that is just the biggest irony in history it would help I think I do want to ask if Adam and give a final thought or two before we are forced to any by our rent expiring battery and Peter to discuss not consult no I was just rolling I beg my own job but mean I'm looking forward to to your thoughts on it after spending a little time but we will be looking to add them for camera advice I'm Italian we still have a lot to cover on Thursday so yeah can't wait for Adams impressions on this especially compared with that optical image stabilization lacking because you're going to test the m7 first I imagine the m8 later oh and then you know I'll definitely be looking forward specially to Tony's impressions because tony was really looking forward to this phone and was gonna send me the m7 now i think i'm getting an MA right Toni Elias I was messing out now that the HTC m8 is out and the galaxy s5 is out and that the Sony Xperia z2 is out i think i have my 2014 so yeah I think the I think you're going for the z2 right yeah Taylor about you um I'm gonna wait and see what Motorola does this year but I have to do this because it doesn't feel right because Brandon is not at this editorial roundtable Louie he just tweeted he said this Elias earlier you say you mate or camera is mediocre while HTC just can't get the camera right early reviews by the way Brandon didn't make week i'll review immediately after tweeting that he and I are leaving right now you might need to be for them yeah his next tweet was that said of course I'm gonna buy one smiley face yeah yeah yeah the guy that complains about megapixels the most is about to buy the phone that does it less but but anyways guys before Adam and Michael run out of battery we are going to sign off i think we've we've covered all the points that we've we wanted to cover with this event I guess that I don't know I i sadly feel disappointed i love the design Taylor I have a major takeaway if you take selfies this is the camera to get actually a direct of verbatim vote for my review is it I have a regimen I don't know but yeah it is or the oppo n1 I don't know because it has the the rotating camera but yeah I just can't get behind something that's so behind I can't there there is no excuse yeah there's just no excuse for it to be a 4-megapixel camera I don't care what HTC says there's no excuse no I think they were doing this just for the sake of being different just for the sake of be unique and artistic friends with the m7 md condition without a stubbornness because i'm sure it's not out of me I'm sure they could have lovely figure letter sensor in there already expensive film hey Leanne same here i mean i would have rather they made that phone thicker but anyways final thoughts Michael and Adam before you guys go yeah if there is a thursday pumpkin i'm with buying my phone available right now I'm getting my junk that changed until the mother that's an ad looking man this thing's season threats with Michelle take a lot of pictures and I understand the objections of Education and they're in my review as well but I'd love this device and deserves every bit of the high school no I'm sure man I'm sure if it wasn't for that camera this is pretty much the perfect phone seriously yeah it solves so many problems i mean i hate the speakers on every smartphone and then again the HTC stalls that we got we've got a great display we've got great build quality you know again if it wasn't for the camera this would be the perfect most thought you know which was the only the only reason I waited for the upgraded over dm7 uh-huh green not the processor not the software not the speakers it was the camera yeah yeah Taylor final thoughts there's a reason that my m7's is in the store it hasn't left this drawer in about three months four months um but there is another thing it's a battery 2600 Mega Million ours is an improvement but it's when you see I was looking at a space Johnson sorry I don't forget that it's not wrong you don't yes this is a no one it is an 801 but I'm just saying that some of the competition as Omega 1 and it had to have bigger batteries I don't care how much standby or how much stamina this battery has a 2600 milliamp hours if there's no denying it would have more 3,000 so why not just shoot for their know his name and the average user doesn't care how the phone performs an ultra standby mode we want the phone to perform great before it falls into ultra standby that's really what we want don't so I'm sorry mom so sad I'm so sad after living of it part of the China we have to be visited by Michaels to go do the news guys club thank you guys yeah take care of dudes talk to you guys later alright so we are I guess we are signing off sadly Michael and Adam had to had to leave battery problems and there is more interviews with Peter choo coming up so I guess we are done we are wrapped anything Taylor the one most impressive thing I said that I would applaud HTC if they did and that is launched it the day they announced it and they did yep it's available as of seven minutes ago at verizon right now you can walk in and buy one today and that that's impressive they deserve huge huge huge kudos for that but they also missed the mark so i'm going to write my editorial on that i'll put together actual thoughts that make sense in text form in a few minutes so and you know that there is a cool thing i don't know about you Tony but for example in in my country camping in the United States you have a I think it's a what is it a 15 day return period Taylor watching 14 here it's a 14 day return period I mean if you know to be honest with you HTC is one of those companies that we want to succeed and that we were expecting for this to be the phone to pull them out and we wanted that same thing from the m7 so you know I tell you something probably this could be your camera probably this could be your phone michael has fallen in love with it I have fallen in love with his videos so far i do want to give it a try but sadly in my country there is no return bureau you biting you keep it so i will have to wait for my next trip to the US and probably give it a try and see after a week if i decide to keep it or not but i guess that is pretty much it for us Tony anything okay I'm a little bit i have a bitter taste in my mouth because i was expecting more of course we knew that nothing more will come so I'm a bit said I hope it won't cripple their sales I hope they will have increased sales over the m7 for the sake of HTC as a company there's no doubt Samsung will outsell 10 times the HTC One with their s5 and now when it comes down to that there's also the z2 and there's also the fine seven so we have great great players there's a phone for everybody here yeah I really really want to try to find seven because I wrote the editorial about its camera yesterday and and what they're doing it sounds really stupid and when I heard about it I was like that is a terrible idea it takes 13 megapixel images boobs or bumps them up to 50 and then I actually look better than the 13 megapixel images oh yeah well we'll have to give it a try i'll definitely be in our pocket our labs very soon but anyways you can follow mr. 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