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and I think we should be like this is my beginning gum face now now we should be live good morning good afternoon good evening everybody and welcome to episode number ten it's been 10 weeks already it's puckett now live and today's episode is called how social is your phone because of all the facebook and other social read the news this week I am Anton denied managing editor of pocket now and I have with me mr. Brandon minimun editor-in-chief good day welcome and also with me is mr. Michael Fisher editorial director no everyone will be back in the air thank you for having me good to get to having you back and I'm gonna just shoot it right back to you guys let's start with Brandon and let's kick this thing off alright sounds good I'm gonna go with Paul hey Paul unmute your microphone or even do it sputtering hey I lost pop yeah I think probably we hope will you suddenly lost a bit of the ribbon but no problems or somebody else garnish let's go with Andrew Oh Andrew how you done good yeah and you wait where are you from Oh quakertown quakertown PA yeah nice i can i can throw my stone up the window and hit you i'm in my house some quite hit me but you can try I'm really good at throwing stones that sliding glass door behind you just go right you know oh I feel like we've seen you before I feel you've been on the live before is not right Andy yeah yeah good to see you again I remember your ceiling fan for some reason it's very spinny um so so we're going to talk a little bit about a lot a bit about this facebook home thing and we just had a roundtable discussion about it because we're trying to understand if it's something that we would use instead of our typical Android launcher so I guess the first question is do you have an android phone yes what do you get Optimus G nice so so your phone won't be one of the first that can support it but the optimist geez got the s4 pro it'll be able to do it soon do you have a are you running the stock launcher using something third party well i'm using a launcher called action launcher i believe it's called oh yeah action launcher which i am you don't leave I video / dead yeah one other so you're from that you're familiar with the idea of changing your home screen I can you can you show it off and show some of the cool stuff you've got going on um you know it's a little different because you know most launchers are used to having the after or it actually is then it Scrolls over this like the list right here well I mean it's a little different oh and it also has searched won't wait one button also has a search button so you can like search for apps you know if you're lazy too lazy to go swipe over right now I mean I don't really messed around with it too much I just kind of left it as it is but just kind of the way just out of the box yeah but you like but you like it better than what you got from LG yeah algiers launchers kind of yeah it is kind of blood did you get your jelly bean update by the way yeah well actually I was running a custom rom saw had it before everybody else did a la carte AT&T anyways lucky you so so before I asked my task next question which was going to be which will be about facebook home tell me a little bit about your your usage of facebook do you use it a lot or not really i do use it a lot and i do think that facebook home would be something I would use sometimes like I wouldn't I would like it if you know I wasn't all a launcher if they would just real tight the app because the app as it is is terrible that's that's exactly right I was saying the app is absolutely terrible and all facebook all the time i think is a little bit too much it would be cool if like you get that full screen facebook experience that immersive facebook experience but only when you want like you know when you're when you're in the bathroom or or whatever whenever you're checking facebook i mean let's be honest here yeah I mean you know that's that's where fish your updates his facebook status from all the time I know it yeah clearly yeah um I got well I'm just I I'm kind of like I'm rereading on this and I'm very interested in what Andrew has to say about you know Andrews coming from the same place we are right Andrew I mean you're you're running custom roms you're running custom launchers already you're not you're outside the target audience for this for this product so but it's still somewhat compelling to you because you use facebook or really hearing that right yeah I mean the other thing is I think all those like girls that like love posting like three thousand pictures a day of themselves on the Internet we only really kind of think only women yes yes of course no go ahead but anybody else like I just can't see it being practical that's it didn't I yeah it's not practical because most people when they use their phone they're using their phone for email there you for calendar for web for Twitter for facebook a whole variety of things they use it for a tool for their busy active life but if you look at some people the younger young younger generation maybe 13 14 year old i'm going to use i'm gonna say girls their whole life is is social it's all about their friends they don't have jobs they have school and they have friends and so to immerse them to make their phone entirely about their friends would be very compelling but for the rest of us who have jobs and and other things we need to get done it's it's cumbersome it gets in the way of using our phone as a tool to help us um you know get get things done so plus i can't remember the last time i looked at my phone and said i wish i had more facebook who said so brenda i have a counterpoint to your to your point but i don't want to take away from andrews time so i'm going to wait until we're done with andrew and then I want to kind of say something sure sure um Andrew what's the what's the next phone you're gonna get um eine the HTC one looks pretty compelling so you know I might jump ship to that it's just the one like I think I had expressed this before when you guys were in a Barcelona and the mwc thing talking about the camera um is it like for the megapixels it's just going to be 4 megapixels is that what is it going to output to or what does the Alpha it too because that seems like the only logical conclusion yeah it's uh it's 4 megapixels the dimensions are like 2,800 by 1500 or so yeah citrus 4 megapixels I mean that's kind of concerning you know it is better than other 4 megapixel sensors but if you want to really do anything to it you're gonna destroy in like no time at all unless so you can do anything to it as long as you don't drop into it well yeah or or unless further for the one percent of the smartphone using population that wants to print out a poster size print of like a 13 megapixel shot you're not gonna be able to do that on the one but most people don't do that well I mean you could it would just look like crap look like crap right are you are you also considering the galaxy s4 are you just gonna write with the rarity of the one nah it's just I mean I know I said you also like a hypocrite saying this but it sounds it looks too much like yesterday it's just you know I find him weird that they would just only tweak it a little bit I mean I guess it works for iphone people but I don't want the same thing over and over and over again yeah like have this conversation once before hey what I then um well thank you very much Andrew for joining us we want to be sure we get to other people but I nothing by Andrew thank you goodbye co goodnight can I in a hit you with this i was reading an article right before we came on because i didn't have much time to look at the facebook event yesterday and i think it was wired who made a really good point that we talked about before this is not the but there's not the app for us this is not the suite for for for tech heads but so many people use Facebook as the modern-day AOL like to so many people facebook is the internet so I I doubt that many people will call in who are like that on you know our audience tends to be quite tech savvy but if there's anyone out there who who's like so obsessed with Facebook that that this thing looks like the most compelling offering ever I think it would be awesome to hear from them I think you should shoot off a flare in your ribbon like right now well we'll get well maybe have some Flyers later there's something that's interesting about facebook home and I don't think people realize this and i'm ninety-nine percent sure this is the case when you download the new facebook app April twelfth facebook home and the Facebook app are one so when you hit your home button you get that prompt that says will you would you like to use facebook home as your launcher or TouchWiz and so this is going to immediately force so many people just out of curiosity if nothing else to be like I wonder what happens when I press this whoa my whole my whole phone it's a facebook phone now so they've got that clever feature of android wear it will do that on their side to to drive adoption yeah Michael your turn oh my turn to Slide something uh sounds awesome I gotta goodness um I am so infrequently on of the thing I like I'm gonna talk to Paul Hunter oh can you unmute your mic and come on board hello guys hey Paul how's it going yeah I'm fine you very well were you calling from I'm from Germany nice long distance boss what oh he's so we have a common frame of reference what kind of phone are you packing there Paul I've got a nexus 4 and a nexus 7 maybe yes boss go figure uh what's your what's your status on this whole Facebook thing is that are you are you an ardent facebook user or what not really i'm i use facebook from time to time just to keep in touch come on price and some other people but my main focus is soon with us but problem especially here Germany is and that you you cannot make people switch to do plus if they are facebook already has the firm humor cantera from getting a pair I don't know Facebook home is that so interesting to me but for the normal user hey if it is ok i wanna jump in with a question don't mean hi jacket but if you mentioned google+ if google plus came out with a google+ launcher called google+ home would you want google plus all the time on your home screen no i don't think so because i don't agree with the Zuckerberg that people matters more than apps it's not the kind I use my phone I need eps I oh I hit a normal logic I use them effects on the Nexus 7 and this is a gorgeous action launcher on my Nexus 4 because I i always need just one click to open my arms yeah I I think a lot of us are like that can we talk for a second about that people first thing because HTC did it a long time ago with windows mobile with their touchflo 3d then then then Microsoft did it with Windows Phone people first and now facebook is doing this thing people first but is that is that right is that truly representative of how we use our phone I don't think so because you see you how HTC does in the past did in the past and also know Microsoft Windows Phone or windows mobile or Windows Phone it sucks I think it's my opinion yeah yeah I think the people have on windows phone yeah definitely is the most visible modern incarnation of this but yeah like is that porting an older model to the experience because I feel like back 10 years ago absolutely when I pick up my phone yeah I want to i'm picking it up because i want to talk to a specific person i'm not exactly i don't think that's the way we operate anymore i think we're much more i'm much more likely to pick up a phone and look and see what a ton of people are singing me a about one given thing isn't as there but the cool thing is these chap hats this is this is really a great and the innovative idea i think because that's right i try to use this perhaps and what's up and talk but these are all interrupting the for example if you're playing a youtube video it stops it shows to Papa and if you want to go back it just has to reload the whole clip I I agree that that's the most compelling thing and I think a lot of people are missing that that the chat heads functionality which allows you to to hover a person's face on the screen no matter what apps you're in and you can continue the conversation and the little face doesn't go away until you toss it off the screen and it's got this physics engine where the head will stick to one of the edges of the screen it will never be in the center and if you want to add more chat heads if you want to have you know Michael Fisher on on essentially speed dial so you can chat him anytime you go into the facebook Messenger at you tap and hold you say at a new chat head and his a fancy little face comes up Oh see that's cool I was wondering what the deal was I mean because Chad had nobody is talking about chat heads people are talking about the name which is absurd but talking about the functionality so that that sounds compelling anytime you can avoid jumping out of the app you're into go do something else only to jump back into the app you're in that's a great thing that's why things like pop-up video pop up play on samsung or a good or a good notion and so forth yeah so it would be great if Facebook would integrate this into their messenger that only Facebook whole button to their messenger because I used to facebook a facebook app but well I give Facebook or Mariah I gonna test it just to have an opinion mcmorris wise well as a daily drive on them memory what about the the HTC first does that Hardware compel you at all oh that's for your bacon i thought i need to go for the teens it's okay yeah maybe is the first smartphone whatever then would be nice but um as you guys talked earlier on your round table hang out of ink and you talk about the price of the nexus 4 so it becomes the price i would prefer the nexus 4 and x HTC first or something like that that's an interesting conversation because the the we're gonna have to go to a new color to sec but that the HTC purse is interesting because we're talking out the round table it's one of like to literally two phones that have the 4.3 inch high res display 720p not only that but it has the qualcomm snapdragon 400 which we've never seen before and it's probably going to have performance similar to the s4 pro but lower power consumption because it's dual core and i'm hearing these rumors that on the HTC first you can turn off the facebook integration and get stock Android I mean that could be pretty pretty badass mm-hmm that's not the thing I'm just saying okay well thank you for thank you for calling in I really do appreciate the insights of a real power user it's not really okay what I wanted to want to say to them it's really cool to have these hangouts with you also to watch them on youtube because I only a I know I don't have the time every Friday too come in but it's just great because though it's the opportunity to hear people not professional bloggers something like that but what is their opinion how do they use their phones installed this is a great opportunity thank you very much thanks man I appreciate that can say okay that we gotta take care and I think it's my turn I made a promise at one point that I will try to speak with the new people but I'm looking at the participants right now and it's those who are quick on the trigger to click on the link once we publicize so I'm trying to talk to you I've always had a thing with duets and that since our resident duet is not here I'm going to talk to you Superman and the pocket now halo Wonder Woman what's up guys was it are your buns ok there are muted that we saw muted no time now now I can hear you how high I just want to say one thing as our our previous participant said this is a show all about you guys and not about us or our opinions you've had enough of those throughout the entire week and editorials news and every piece we publish or video we we upload so let's talk about whatever you guys want to talk about so yeah first of all we are about the hot topic about a HTC One not the one I'm sorry about the first facebook phone we have something exciting for you guys that you don't see every day the original facebook phone oh the cha-cha look at that face yeah I had I had the utmost pleasure of reviewing that phone as it Sony is absolutely on you because we it was me that practically like recommended this phone to my girlfriend and and it was because of your review and now with certainty we can say please everyone if you get in touch with this phone ever well we're getting that's what it's horrible you need to get as far as possible from it well he also had to think about it this way that that phone was announced in 2011 at the mwc so the specs are 2011 and even if you think 2011 that phone was on the low end of the entire thing so I really has the nicest physical QWERTY keyboard that you can get well that's a good keyword and even even even matter Michael the roads an editorial or in such defending the HTC chacha that it actually is a great phone and really after a year year and a half days it was a very time sensitive piece yeah i think i think i was i was less defending it and more saying like hey it's not that bad it's actually kind of cool in this one way look if has some good ideas but that's the implementation of the ideas that's not quite there it's not knowing that and then and I have like bulletin points for you last time when I was here I was your dream on yeah I wasn't really prepared for this and I was I so over excited I couldn't say a word right so the next thing about the HTC first if someone reviews this phone if someone it takes it under its wing for example Brandon this one goes out to you because um Brandon youth you do one thing often and and I really want to point out that to you so you don't do its maybe in the future ever again so you don't make the flame wars in the comment section so huge enough okay well it's about when you comparing phones 2d iOS devices when you compare the browser's between two practically two operating systems you practically look at the bar that's filling up and when it's full and disappears then you practically think that it's done right right yeah no yeah but yeah but the iphone the iOS models do a really nice party trick if you didn't know is that they're practically it when when bars for when it disappears it actually doesn't doesn't stop loading the page and if you look at the top left part of the notification bar I'm rotating SAT is a circle that indicates that you actually continue to load lot page so if you if you ever reviewed okay I'm sorry so you review the HTC first don't give it too much smack so to say that if it's the loading bar doesn't disappear as it has a Qualcomm S is for processor so it should it shouldn't be fast Shido had I don't want to defend Brandon because he he's a big boy he can defend himself and I don't know and I don't want to defend iOS either I just want to say this I've been using iOS the same way i've been using all the other platforms for years now and even though it might be a tricky thing that Apple does there with the spinning a circle in the top right corner actually when the bar has finished the phone and the page is usable for scrolling without checkerboards for chickens you know so maybe it does some sort of loading into memory and caching but as far as the user is concerned the moment that bar has finished as far as I the user I'm concerned that page is fully loaded but web could break the dragon webkit-based browsers apparently are now out of date hence the fact that that Google is looking towards a way that practically go away from the webkit browser they got from iOS because it's slow and I always spectacle II yeah they managed apart to get the fluent the medicity I'm yet to find a phone which is faster and browsing performance that the the iphone oh come on no to at any time any place Wow note so really yep Brendan if you disagree or Michael even my rooted phone it's the galaxy s2 in with my rooted phone with a custom wrong Becky does it faster than the iphone I don't believe you guys talk about page load times and you start because like splitting hairs in terms of seconds between page load times I just start every millisecond what I'm talking about is just that the don't get smacked to the phone because yeah yeah as far as the consumerism concerned yeah pages like loaded and usable but but the thing is that they both still loading and that's just the one what I wanted to point out the the tricky thing is when you have two phones to compare and they're totally different operating systems so you don't have the same thing to look at is you need something to try to qualify which is faster and you can scroll down the page and see which elements load first but then then that's not very scientific so the closest thing we have is progress bars even if they might not be truly representative of the usability of the page because every operating system handles it differently yeah even the scrolling iphone does a really nice body to it there too when you scroll on Android you get a one flake and you're on the bottom of the page so you can easily spot these blank spots if you if you will but yeah the iphone Brickley restricts you from doing it so and if I may make the most of it of these five six minutes that I have for this famed moment next one goes to Michael yes sir nicholas so you go sting the factory where they produce artificial sapphire you know I have one question your question for you would you rather pick a low-end or a mid-range Huawei with a sapphire display Wow Wow rate or huh or a high-end phone like the galaxy s4 or or the iphone 5 for that matter which we know that I really easily shattered and n scratch now this chatter ability is actually as I know quite bigger on the sapphire screens is that right right when sapphire screens it suffers a very brittle material and so it yeah its shadow resistance is not the selling point there it's a scratch resistance because yeah it's much more brittle and so will shatter more readily so the question is what I rather carry something like a mid-range Huawei but with a sapphire screen versus a high-end device with a likes a gorilla glass display go read last blog my glass I'll take a tank over a Ferrari I love I love me some rugged phones I am very hard on my phones I scratched them up like crazy that's what she said hey but I and I also um ah that's a really tough one but no really oh I would carry a higher end device just because of my needs but that is not any that is not to impugn sapphire at all it's a really cool material and I need it on my phones but I wouldn't carry mid-range like a screen protector right like a sweetie protector see that's the thing i should have said this on the piece and I did omit it I don't like screen protector do you use them yeah it's actually the thing that holds my swing together because if you can see it's it's shattered on the top and and if I peel off the screen protector april ionic leap at fallout 2 pieces but the screen isn't attacked i can see everything is it and the thing is yeah but what do you think rumors said that's it samsung galaxy note 3 which i hope will be my next phone that it will have an unbreakable display what is that all about maybe its sapphire maybe it's the elastic know that their lesson nobody I don't but I don't get the sense of sapphires production rate or cost has matured to a point where it's going to be it's not going to be sapphire I don't think but yeah then you always hear this flexible display room are kind of reemerged on the the note 3 gets discussed and I don't know I mean to me that's in the same neighborhood as the as the samsung galaxy s3 will be able to why honestly charge 30 feet away it's one of those rumors that i'm not sure i'm sure it's a little bit more less baseless than that but I I think we'll we will see I I think that that's going to be compelling but I don't have any information about it unless unless you guys do unless there's news i'm missing Brandon or Johnny oh I i I've been on vacation for the best buy they so I'm out of news how was it it was tiring i'm more tired now at the end of my vacation that I was for instance last Friday when I was before my vacation that perfectly did the word real vacation starts no no the thing is at work is the place where you go to relax after a great vacation that is also true and it's also true that I spent a lot of time at work and people once they find out I'm a vacation everybody wants to meet to go somewhere to do stuff and it's just too many people to please you don't have that kind of stomach right no not at the moment I'm too old for this ya know but the last time you was yeah you were catching breath catching breath after the gym when you had what yeah and I was lucky that guy didn't come online to shame me do you guys have any final thoughts before we say shame here yep yeah any final thoughts I just wanted to ask one question if I say the word what was it would know okay just keep it family friendly yeah yeah no not use up kind of language if I use the word fragmentation what do you say first of all yes why because it's reality you know it's not every operating system out there is fragmented everyone I actually think that the better because for example if you have for example iphone 3gs and you get to latest iOS 6 on it will you get absolutely the same functionality on it then on the iphone 5 counterpart you see it's not about the functional because it might be missing something like Siri or stuff like that it's its effect that a three-year phone is getting the software update three years later it's like me I don't know HTC initial desire getting four point two point two today which is it doesn't happen but what do you get with that up type Justin number of the version well in case of Android you get super fluidity with project butter and all the other in case of Android yes but for example if you take Windows Phone Windows Phone practically could do the same thing as Apple did they which is women with each new iteration of their operating systems a promising the same functionality or at least a margin of it of for the older phones till the 3gs practically a Windows Phone could do the same by calling windows seven point eight windows 8 because it has the same home screen practically the same functionality only the company with some new games or something like that it's a chorister de Oro platform is different but I'm getting your point and Microsoft had a huge opportunity to to kill fragmentation at its birth with Windows Phone because all the updates were controlled by Microsoft initially and that's what we were told but I have a phone which proves that the Microsoft was wrong i had the initial LG optimus 7 and I I didn't get P 7.8 update an LG abandon that phone so yeah fragmentation is there whether we talk about Windows Phone iOS android windows pcs or Macs it's the thing that on Android it's more pregnant and it's more present at the same time as far as I am concerned but but the end user chooses to to pick out the phone that actually fits heats needs if it feed it just needs a phone to update the status on facebook or or or I just take funny pictures on myself or check in somewhere then this has gingerbread and it's routed to so you can take all the bloatware out of it but it's still for which okay just one question to plan my point wouldn't you be happy to run jelly bean on that phone and two you have everything run smoother and faster it wouldn't run smoother and faster because the rectory jelly bean has its specification that it needs from the film too so it's like like with Windows the minimal requirements so then then there's your fragmentation but but that is with every other operating system to write no the 3gs runs the iOS 6 even though it runs a slower processor with less ram but not the same functionality you don't get Siri you don't get practically the fluidity isn't there too if we talk about iOS in particular when you get that 6.21 upgrade it's practically jaggi and laggy and any other kind of work you can knock it over I'm not gonna convince you you're not gonna convince me so this will come down to what you believe in what I believe I'm sorry it's just just last question that was it just just to get the most of it of my five minutes of fame sure no problem thank you guys last person to Tony if I may um will you will your country get to eurovision song contest finalists to this year i know i have no idea i am not looking at those contests because i think that the romanian music industry which goes to these contests is way below the potential of the music industry which happens inside the country and goes for export yeah the same here so thank you for having us thank you for dropping by come back next week ok I will be taking your buyback branding your life of a nice weight evening you two have a great weekend it thanks my dear bye how's that that's very interesting I've been informed that to my term so therefore i'm going to choose sin floyd jr. hey yes did he ain't no one afternoon I'm will oh thank you thank you Sam had a good at a good compliment in the chat before which I am can't find because the chat is being spammed by a bunch of entrances and exits what did you say this is the goofiest hang out you've been apart yeah really um my question relates to facebook home on a 10 inch tablet what in the world is that supposed to look like because to me Facebook home is geared towards one-handed use on a 4.3 inch screen how they gonna translate that to 10 inches yeah mama go ahead Oh God you know and I was going to say where they release it as well with the special 10 inch tablet but it did for the facebook home at 4.3 inch foam then your second question I think is really interesting whether they'll release accompanying hardware let's circle back to that what they're going to have to do is instead of having these full screen pictures because I Nexus 10 most pictures that people take are going to look like crap with all those you know all that resolution they're gonna have to do like some sort of mosaic or some sort of like magazine display where pictures are kind of layered or kind of a side-by-side or something like that um and I really hope that they do something more with that screen space then just say like oh here are two pictures from your feed um what what I hope that Facebook home does for tablets is kind of I hope Facebook home gets big enough to where people like really wanted and then they think oh if I can get this on my tablet oh I'm we have to buy an android tablet and android tablet sales go up because right now they're still there they're getting better but they're nowhere near the ipad so so so they're gonna have to do some retooling what do you think about the hardware do you think they're going to do a an HTC second um well no personally speaking I don't I don't see HTC first sailing all that well and I don't see Facebook really wanting to go down that road again with architects tab I don't see that working most likely they'll use whatever the the Nexus tablet is at that point the newest Nexus I think because they should come out with the new facebook home around the same time that tablet the new Nexus 7 will come out so I would assume that users on that yeah alright so so are you gonna use facebook home on your phone uh no all probably just watch the reviews I'm sorry to interrupt just a small rent because it's something I have to say the way Brandon is obsessed with pixels I am obsessed with photography and I've seen a couple of hands on with the HTC first running the Facebook home and of course it's an excellent concept as far as I'm concerned to have those pictures full-sized on your screen but the algorithm in which those images which are landscape are being zoomed in to fill the entire portraits screen and make them jaggi and over zoom that's just plain ugly so that would be probably the only thing stopping me from using facebook phone because facebook home because i like the concept on it i think comes down to the friends in my facebook which post interesting content and i often get rid of those who are not interested in I'm that's the way I function but just having those jaggi images appear on my I don't know notes2 or HTC One that's just horrible so did you think the man i'm sorry i was going to say it's going to make your your new high-end phone with my crap if you do you think then that the right implementation would have been to do something similar to what Google wants to do what we think they want to do with Babel and make it more about the conversation and the things that you can add to your conversation versus making it about the pictures and the things you to add to the pictures so how would that look if they did make it about the conversation um I don't know it's a good question i mean i have no idea what Babel would look like i was talking mobile Dom about it about how i think we need it because we're talking to fragmentation there's a million different apps we use just the top of people available is supposed to get rid of all that so i think it would just integrate really well um with all the other messaging apps but from one app and if you want to add pictures you can add pictures and maybe make them full screen or if you want to do a google hangout like we're doing now it will be simple a button press will it make that possible I think that will be implemented better than having your entire screen be full of pictures then pull a chat head yeah i think i think we are comparing an application which if i know well this bubble or babel thing will be most probably a chat application with voice video and pictures we're comparing an app to a basically launcher replacement what we think that maybe babel will be very well implemented in the key lime pie or not well there was the discussion which guy being implemented at windows phone 8 and or not so it might be the same implementation there there are just too many chat services it's just and you know for example that most of them don't talk to one another like like I message still is only iphone and and it's it's really frustrating because what happens all the time is that when i switch for my iphone to android i get all these I messages on my iPad because you have to change your settings in order for I messages to stop and go to your phone and it's just it's just really frustrating in the hope of the facebook Messenger thing with the in it has integration in facebook home with your SMS which is a step in the right direction but i don't know i don't think most people rely on facebook Messenger it's like if I get a facebook message it's rare you know oh well I see I think that goes back to how often you use Facebook and as an the average user I would argue random that facebook Messenger is probably even more prevalent than email and then text messaging that's what that was about to say the all my online communications which are not my professional communications with you guys and with anybody else from my professional life so all my private conversations and communication happens on facebook Messenger yeah I think this goes back to like people treat modern-day facebook like they treated AOL and times gone by and facebook Messenger is the new AOL instant messenger so I I think it's critical that that Facebook not only maintain but enhanced messenger and you know I think that they're still going to be able to compete really effectively against Google's no matter how good the latter is just because it's it's so pervasive so many people use it I love I used to keep Marik making the AOL comparison because there's only a takes a pertinent person of a certain age I guess do it to appreciate that and the thanks buddy preciate reminder i'll remember a i did all of my talking to my friends or a yeah so what's it to wrap things up some what phone do you have right now i have an HTC Sensation 4G nice it's the that was their flagship of 2011 that is correct and i remember i was actually looking at a leaked picture of that I don't know how I got to it is on XDA and it was their first dual core phone what what are you what are you looking at next I'm trying to saw it between the note two or three depending on how fast they can get a note 3 here or the yacht cs4 I'm a fan of Samsung their their products worked really well they have they stand up well to Tom and all the value-add should get just can't really be denied they do add a lot of stuff in there do you think you would use stuff like the dual camera mode and all of those other fun features um I probably play with it but no not usually the stuff that I like most will be able to see my messages before I open them and things of that sort probably while I'd rather have a note 2 versus the galaxy s4 but seeing that is seven months old probably no 3 kind of wish they had put the the note a release around this time because a lot of people are concerning the galaxy s4 but they want to wait for the note 3 or even the one and the note 3 whether it actually a note 3 i think i read they're coming out with this samsung medal or something they're not going to kill the note brand it's too strong and maybe they're going to create another brand of devices because like the galaxy stuff they're going to compete with themselves then with that brand have SPN as well no I think the S Pen is just for for the Galaxy Note brand which is tablets and phablet so unless samsung once a galaxy fess gaelic galaxy s watch note so i see many any final questions um no that's everything thank you guys so much thanks for coming did you see you again soon thank you yeah so what does that means that mean it's my turn their yellow yeah so I am NOT on the hangouts as often as some of you guys so can you tell me if there's anybody in the ribbon that has not been seen before because I love ya I can tell you Derek who drove is new yeah yep Oh once my hovering function now they starts working again I'm gonna pick that person here's the one with the Canadian flag mmm yes ah there we go yes this is derek yeah good you very well thank you were you I don't suppose you're calling from Canada today all right oh yeah Nova Scotia if you know where that is i the East Coast really I sure do actually my girlfriend and I've been talking about taking a day trip up to to Nova Scotia not a day trip the weekend oh never been before but so nice to hear from him yeah hey what are you were you working with now my what your mobile device just so gotta land citation another say this whole Janice globalization owners my god yeah you worse they're worse for me I can't upgrade to a whole nother year this song we have a three-year contract so oh the Canadian three-year conjure them that's awful i'm sorry at least phones a oh that good how's the sensation holding up for you I never owned it but I know it was a 2011 device right yeah it's not too bad but like I can't Rudy because I've been paying like seven months seven dollars a month for like a like to say something happen to my phone I get like a new one order for like regular something insurance replace oh if I route it well there that go so yeah but why did you can restore it though like on tariff oh yeah to to restore it to and to remove evidence of software tempering okay yes okay we're gonna bring up Brenda cuz Brandon brown is the expert there he can you can speak err ok I just wonder do you think the Facebook would come for like even this phone as old as it is you think that Facebook launcher would be compatible what's guaranteed to happen is that the APK will be released on XDA and other sites and you'll get it on any phone but our performance might not be so hot yeah but the only thing I really want tries that snapchat the snap chat head or whatever head chat bubble they need something remember oh uh what is it Chet Chet head I did I didn t memorable i think that's already cemented itself into the public discussion that's the youth text message too or is it just facebook messaging it does yes it integrates with SMS that's a rule and you guys in Canada should also have voiceover of a messenger whoa wait why is that Tony certain certain countries certain countries among which I think Canada the UK and the u.s. have also voiced calling capabilities through facebook over existing facebook Messenger yes I'm sorry yeah yeah yeah yeah so that's gonna be very interesting i'm brendan makes a really good point that i frequently forget when you asked about an official release i was like i don't know if they're gonna do it for that but yeah the APK will be at XDA and cysts install it try it anyways yeah are you a heavy facebook user not much like eye contact a few people over once in a while but music I just peek added to see what's up with my people at home because I'm at university right now so I thought that was a dorm room behind you that's not them ya know your side yeah my college days as Brandon will remind you where you know decades ago but i still remember here look like if I don't think you're old enough to make fun of your age and you're on my age so I want to do that to myself no I but it's interesting like I it is your drive to to use facebook home morally curiosity or do you think it's something you would stick with for a while probably more curiosity and to have something new because I've had sent whatever for like the longest time now so Derek Jeter he pried um have you tried apex launcher or nova launcher I've tried those but like the RAM on the phone can't handle it at all it'll just free the whole phone constantly have you tried to hard reset recently to clear stuff out and try it yeah just an ad I do it almost every couple months no I just did it go today what operating system are you running what do you mean would operate existent like what what version of Android I think you told you like I don't know better check price rubber dinghy bread right probably ginger burn know it yeah it's know it's ice cream sandwich alas no interesting um if you're if you're tryna get some more legs out of the phone you could install like a jelly bean ROM and you probably did android 4.0 three okay so I i I'm just going to shamelessly drop in here because I i feel i'm sensing we are talking to the first person who is not a heavy android power user is that is that true Derek yeah kind of because I was always worried about my insurance I light so I couldn't have the choice to do that kind of stuff so you don't even care whether you're running four-point-oh or 4.2 or 4.1 or there are so many numbers i kind of just forgot okay that's on the work must be fast yeah what didn't I don't think you're making a good point there who Tony yeah I'm sorry i was i was about to ask you that if you can in a couple of minutes just described to me how a regular non-geek like like me or like us uses an android phone as his daily driver basically but for me I just do emails texts a check Twitter every morning that's really about it so when you're launching your your email application and you're you're checking your statuses and changing them do you feel that your phone is slow or do you have a feeling it could be faster or it's not not noticeable at all and you don't care I definitely feel like it's slow specially cuz i got like I don't leave that have that many apps but like I feel like it it's that the RAM gets overloaded very easily like I always have under I always have around 100 megabytes or less for ramp left over and that's just on a date like not using anything and most I'll have 200 so it's it's strange dare you say this because I use a sensation for a while it has 768 megabytes of RAM right yeah mine only says 500 like that i can use I guess yeah the operating system is taking over the rest pens um if you if you are brave and you this is a good weekend project install cyanogenmod 10 on your phone that'll give you back probably a good 50 megabytes of RAM on boot and it will take out of take out all the heavy graphical elements and make your phone significantly faster yeah it's it's it's challenging to get started if you if you're willing to do a little bit of research you know there's there are tutorials out there they're videos out there and there's a chance of breaking your phone but it's relatively low if you can follow instruction yeah so like is it is their chance for me them to track me like oh dad put a custom rom or whatever on it what do you mean like if I put cyanogen mod on it can like two people from bell or whatever track meet say hey you did this you're in terms of Ghana as long as you you make sure to make a backup and to revert if you have any problems for which I'm sure there's another jelly by video somewhere yeah I've watched many of them trying to figure it all out yeah it's it it's easy to revert if if you're something happens you're phoning you need to make a claim on the insurance you put it back to stock and you bring on the phone and they don't know anything would it would happen would they be able to tell i had a custom rom and say if I like smash my screen that can use any more to do all that stuff you can revert even without the screen working oh okay yeah and in other than I mean it carrier I don't know exactly how paranoid bail is or how you know i'm gonna die like a pinch but when i worked at sprint routing was still a thing I mean people would hack their phones and we is the same policies and as long as they don't have a reason to suspect that you have done anything to your software they're not going to question it you know if you bring it in with either a shattered screen or a screen that is running the usual sense rom if you've taken all your modifications off there they're gonna just replace it they're gonna follow their normal what Michael is saying is if you fry your processor because you overclocked it and it gets burned just smash the screen yeah fraud advice from Hoffman no know what this is I know is pink so I would say that if you know it sounds like a fun weekend project for when you're not you know Susan party yeah exactly exams are all this week so yeah treat yourself to a new rom after exams yeah basically well any I mean any final thoughts before we have to uh before we women lon not really just thank you guys for all your videos and everything you guys do thanks a lot really love me a venir up here and thanks for watching all yeah thank you so when I am back when I use the sensation I dropped it in the toilet and then i sent it to Jaime and I know the story and he and he referred to it as the P phone but I told him that it was not that kind of drop in the toilet um but then I put it in a bowl of rice right and I turned it on and it didn't really get Wi-Fi and the radio didn't work but then I waited like a month and then it worked so you know if you drop your phone in the toilet there is still a chance that it will be fine yeah I still remember when when i'ma and I have met in Barcelona last year and he brought that since he was like hold on just I'm gonna mute this person and he was like a Tony can you see that red dot there and I know the story of around a lil is like I know the story I as this I the sensation I I was so excited for the sensation was one of the first ones to go beyond wvga resolution and it's crazy that two years later were all the way at 1080p and like two years from now we'll be at like 8k and and oh boy mr. Chris Williams he's a new face to join our hangout please i'll reach your microphone and tell us a little bit about you hi yes I like taking pictures I'm a gamer and uh yeah and my phone I'm doing right now is a acc Windows Phone Windows 8 x oh and how do you like that it's actually kind of good it's a good phone I really do like it though this person i'll step towards me and yeah but I see you have an interesting combination there is are those beats your pieces your breasts they are where they those bundled with the with the Windows Phone een x no no I have both inseparably okay what do you want to talk about yes the ACC one per se good what do you want to know about it or what do you want to ask see now uh look at the quality inn the speed like the screen quality and everything well i can tell you i can tell you this much among all the phones which i have held and tested the HTC one is in my top two as far as scream quality is concerned what's the other one claiming good yeah okay iphone okay III will agree with Tony the screen is I I have not seen a better screen on a phone and I'm usually an AMOLED guy i usually like those really over saturated colors and really deep like off blacks but Talan know it spits before I haven't seen a better screen the most delightful thing about using the one for me or one of them not be most is changing the wallpaper and then I change it about once per day just so I can like turn it on and just marvel at the detail that the detail that my eyes can even perceive because there's so much detail in the picture it's um the screen just a try right now so if you are concerned about the screen it is one of the if not the best greens on the market at the moment okay what was the second thing you wanted to know about the build quality or well uh the internet and hat like this speed and you cover that one right now already in SB and uh well yeah we have covered that in the review and correct me Brandon if I'm wrong you got the international version and you didn't get the chance to get the maximum out of your carrier right alright so i can tell you i'm i'm in europe and i'm using the international one and i have no problems it usually maxes out at the max speed of my carrier which is anywhere between forty five hundred and sixty nine hundred the kbps and as far as Wi-Fi sir this thing is that the fastest build on Wi-Fi got to do a live Wi-Fi this here if you stick with me for a second let me jump your speed test before i'll point out that the Wi-Fi radio also is capable of it or two point 11 AC i think it's the first phone in the world capable of that standards the first it's the first phone in the world i just got an AC router and i've got a video on my camera showing how redonkulous the Wi-Fi speeds are on the one over AC you can see it you get the exact same speeds as if you were plugged into the router with a ethernet cable yeah right check this out oh wow 41 and 41 down this is actually 61,000 down and one 27,000 up and at 127 that's got to be an anomaly right no actually those are my upload speeds Chris where are you located a Baltimore Maryland us okay so yeah so we're gonna get the carrier variants of the HTC One and we're gonna either review them where we're going to cover them in some way so stay tuned for that because we will be testing them on the US carrier networks to see how how well they perform and and what kind of down and up we get okay I have a question for you Chris are you considering the one and if yes why or are you considering the one and something else and you're vacillating between them well actually the one just the workers that the s4 is a horrible phone I'm sorry uh like it's like it's like a mix between the s2 and s3 not s to my bed the note no joy the s3 and the nail too yes this is like the same it's like if you're holding your hand up my plastic there's nothing but as you said there's nothing but like it feels like a cheap phone per se because it's like this like is we touch you and your hands like queasy get like smears all over all over the screen and on the back to and the sound quality is not isn't actually gonna do it's not that at all okay anything anyone tells you want to know uh that's basically what you want to talk about yes uh the text in in the ACC today you're gonna talk to Michael about the HTC windows phone 8x he's the windows filming the samsung tablet galaxy player the worst tablet ever ah I was at a bar once and I saw a guy with the galaxy players running the restaurant audio on it and I was like really you bought one of those are you like it is like I actually like a lot of my okay cool it's awesome but if you haven't for like more than a year is horrible oh really you just got see players are actually a joke by Samsung but people actually okay let's do a poll a life poll we have 10 people here and of course we will vote to those who agree raise your hands do you still think that in 2013 there is a need for a dedicated mp3 / audio player only only two three four oh my god we had to talk about this because I see no reason why such a I should exist i mean everything can playback music you don't have you don't have I see what you're saying I was gonna say you don't have kids you know yeah or do you would like we have been closed after this week who knows we'll talk again at the next hangout nine months from now well Chris what uh what why do you carry a dedicated player because like okay so I have a phone that's good music and everything but like what if the phone dies and you don't have no music listen to and you just you have a backup I see what you did there the same thing I do with my cameras would it be simpler to carry like it like a power pack Oh for your phone so you have everything I mean she said a Popek yeah see I have this little charger right here and uh that basically rest up my phone so I don't use no more but like this phone is actually been like almost two weeks now this phone has she has a good better like I'm serious like what on a normal day for me it'll be like charge it i wake up at nine it's phone is fully charged will I become six o'clock seven it's like a 45 nine o'clock ten o'clock is 20 that's not for you you're not talking about just like uslike leaving an inner pocket all day it's just actual right right i was all you to kill the berry as much as i kidded that buddy couldn't it's really cool and so that's always good to you would love hearing about that I don't have the EDX I have the Lumia 920 you know and that doesn't play well yeah i love the Lumia 920 I'm gonna be wrong but it doesn't do as well with battery life I have to charge a pretty frequently right is it ok Chris do you have any final closing thoughts questions or anything you want to talk about before we say goodbye um I do has welcomed it though I want to see you vs vs phoneDog us vs Conor ok that's gonna be a street fight will win I guarantee so you have to be more specific hmm what caught it as in see again as in what uh what we wouldn't trust isn't like like what do you want to see how do you want to see what in what respect do you want to see us vs 4 that's what I tried to find out yeah i mean like y'all have like the best young pickle on the best topics to talk about is it's actually kinda good though too because i watch every single every single episode your post on YouTube I follow it every song is your step and you like it work yeah and Jaime is the person I'm not a magic I hear right now but uh I mean I just I mean we we we love being criticized if there weren't any critics would it go further so if you have something to say go on I'm not gonna kick you out unless you want me to no profanity being used right now but pocket now as made my month week I don't know is this pocket as good a good our Channel and and if I had any good contributors and if i had like any people who I wanted to you know uh like say more and give any uh was a call are any advice or updates or whatever I would kind of want to contact pocket now and tell them well thank you for an okay thanks very much from Chris we appreciate that that's that's that's really awesome Steph seen that for me what technique so you know I like stuff aren't we all that is everything I'm up to date on everything so yeah I'm like I have one final question for you yes it's gonna be a tricky one why Windows Phone and why not android hmm okay Wow why Windows Phone 8 and Android because I would never go apple sorry okay happens not in the end the question why did you go with Windows Phone and not with Android well he has a galaxy-class I guess what started off one then you know then in Windows tous up next I'm emerged you something else I don't know which would I whichever phone comes out next I'm go to that one because I will look you're always switching them and trying to use all the platforms whenever your contract expires for instant right mmm that's when I ask me that's good so like so like how to Android and Windows Windows okay normal logical follow-up question why because because for when for Android you have all these apps all these things floating around in the market tomorrow and you don't know which was fake which was real and this one they have all the real at relapse and everything so as either this is like turn it all right now head pocket now like right there parking now at this right there um oh yeah again and it's like you probably wouldn't pop probably wouldn't find it on like android market at all try to go through all these setups and everything and then type search it in so you're saying that for your normal regular day-to-day use when the stone is easier simpler yes okay virus the Beats Audio fair enough Chris thank you very much for joining us and hope you come back next week again okay thank you thank you bye random do you all right uh um I was just going to say something about that I forget oh okay um actually can I ask you a question real quick go on um have you dropped your HTC one I have never dropped any phone in my life all right are you kidding me bro yeah yeah I'm that look at my face this is a great classic Tony moment I believe you it's my hands got some BS going on on the Hangout oh you've dropped a phone man I never dropped phones I never scratch bones interestingly it's the way I handle them as Brandon would describe it in a not so safe for some people manner got it I I dropped the HTC One on a hardwood floor oh boy and it's it did a good job except for the chamfered edge good yeah showed up I was really hoping that it wouldn't i phone 5 if I wear like the edge looks like a dog has like chomped into every so so I've got a little bit of a nub a little piece removed from one of my chamfered edges these chamfered edges they look good but guys they're they're fragile as heck okay let me ask you something back real quick we're going to talk about two metals right now would you prefer the phone made out of aluminum like the iPhone 5 or the HTC One which looks good but it's soft and when you hit it it will look badly because the chamfered edge doesn't hold up to that or would you prefer a phone made out of titanium which is really strong but look at these scratches on the surface so what would you prefer if you drop it it should scratch but stay in its exact same shape or you drop it and it we have a dent so the question is knicks vs. scratches yeah I prefer nicks I mean that happens much much less commonly scratches happen all the time because you accidentally put it in the pocket there's a piece of lint in there that has like a little crust on it so definitely then I rather aluminum you know I agree i'm with Brandon on that one you of course doesn't it needless say I'm the black sheep again so i prefer i prefer a titanium phone which i could probably drop and abuse it will get scratches of course because it's easy to scratch that even with your fingernail but that's just me let's move on that guy's one one day okay let's move on someone I haven't seen in here before is Alex nao Alex yeah really yeah hey you do it yeah I've been here first time and I love to try to get on but I was getting that you know I would call it boom got all the peoples at this time I'm like you know would you know the times of time so I took a fine Howard fitting them for fresh but then over and over and over well I am I my baby i'm getting it on this time well that's uh that's that's creative you that you well here's a pro tip for you instead of refreshing tried being five minutes early and those people who are regular faces down there basically are glued to our twitter feed and once we publicize the link they just click like like in the good old western movies with it and the pilings you usually i know when i was reading the penis with two o'clock so i know i'm going to a clock and I'm like oh it's not my chocolate like central time so for me if they look like lemon apart so it's funny but I went on and I'm like you know it's 25 below where are they Shh annually there my question that I had was is that I'm with my I'm thinking what coupon to get is that we like the LG optimus G and then I'm thinking like or the HTC one that was holding you guys gonna help me excited I mean I really like the build quality in both phones are like haha welcome look like one is class- meadow and both like little bit of time in between two problems are Mike told me you gotta help me out thinking like I that so you're saying between the optimus G and the HTC One yeah Optimus G and the HTC One uh look at him I know I was ready for this question I was born dancer um I'm trying to think of one thing that the optimus G does better than the HTC One and the only thing I can think of is is how it looks maybe maybe you like the the glass on the back the nice interesting texture that reflects in the light and looks awesome it really comes down to design because the one is faster it has a better screen it's got louder sound it feels better and in hand in my opinion is there is there anything about the optimus G that you like more than the one uh yeah I actually papa I stoniest question on the fee as I'll dock in a zoom in on the video i really like tada def must be that you watched video and in zoom in and have a pop-up video of a window and I you know windows and have like a lot of about Kathleen yeah that's unfortunately not available in other phones at the moment stock except for samsung and some LG phones so HTC one doesn't had that had that stock yeah i mean if those are game changers for you then the optimus G sounds like a better choice so what I'm speaking to me like I think I like that you know reason I'm like others ago I'm come clean because I mean I have been in some reviews and I heard that Optimus G is not so good for home party that sounds to my motto let's be fair I'm back it's kind of a time when I was watching actually Mike was reviewed and accepted the completely gave it a error kind of leave or among other remember exactly but I said also that we speak of the bag not also that didn't specially believe him a table and blocks up the speaker a little bit he's okay it just one this actually has a better speaker so the thing that's bad when they see team has been on the LG event on that on HTC banana Ganesh they should see that I have the lives in on video like that I really like and I mean that I always want to add almost on Michael oh you know with launching video and I'm like I would you know always kind of like you know zoom in so like they'll be like when you were shooting the video and you know you shooting an exact weight is that Michael and you know you like without which means demain kinda like the zoom in on the video let you know who the person is and maybe I'm just wearing anybody know one one who takes their it's a question of how much you're going to use these extra features that the g throws in in terms of multitasking in terms of that q view stuff where it brings the video behind whatever you're doing that's not terribly it doesn't it's interesting it's cute it's novel I don't think it's terrible useful I think Samsung's approach of popping a window / / what you're doing actually works a little better if you have a big enough screen but the HTC One doesn't just do audio better than then the optimus G it does it better than any phone I've used since 2004 probably so if audio quality is a big thing to you both in phone calls and for media than and I'm sure Brandon will agree it's you can really can't really do better than the HTC One certainly not in the optimist gr8 brenna dude concur oh yeah yeah so hey oh oh they actually use the whole more days testing I go like that I'm almost people she's texting a little i still call him for more like text so I'm like thinking I me like I'm saying maybe I should do they should TV doesn't mean hadn't got a fun party yeah no i phone calls are priority the one is amazing bedroom yeah I was gonna say as I was going to say that I think that the HTC One feels really good in the hand as a phone because it's tall and it just it feels solid against your face Michael and Tony what do you what do you think about that I was not paying attention at all because I was trying to entertain those with whom we are not talking in the offline check well I we were talking about voice voice calling on the HTC One and I'll have not used the optimus G but I can tell you that the HTC One I'm using it on a carrier here in Romania which supports HD voice and it is just awesome to talk to somebody who on the other end has HD voice enabled it's just like CD quality sound coming out of your earpiece and since the top speaker acts as the earpiece the quality is exceptional in the in coal quality I'm not talking about the audio quality because we know that's the best among phones on the market right now and that quality also goes to the other end of the call as well it'll video popping up where I compare the HTC one to another device and when I switched from that other device to the HTC One on a phone call the caller immediately was like you sound so much better right now and that it's it's a tour de force as far as fuck column goes the HTC One does a really cool party trick I like that word that phrase that you don't even realize it's happening but you know you ever are you ever on a call that's a weird way to start a sentence have you ever been on a call and something happens in the background it gets noisy so you're hitting the up volume button and then that sound gets quieter then you hit the down button the the one regulates the in call volume this isn't just noise cancellation which it does too but it just the volume up and down on the fly so that you don't have to be tapping that up and down button all the time oh by the way Brandon what what audio volume are you using for your earpiece because I'm I've tuned it down to the maximum I I still find it too loud I I have no idea and you know who I was talking to Michael about this yesterday how I think the volume needs to be readjusted on the one it needs to go down a little lower and the maximum could probably be slightly higher so I think it needs to expand a little bit yeah nobody so we're talking about tweaking and experience that still is is much better than the only other smartphone good customers we can ever be satisfied yeah and I also one that would be hammer because I'm hours also i mean the ones mobile so violated the LG i'll forget that international was now a lot version and i will do now that that pretty make my camera i was wondering the sense that the agency has their 40 pixels how was it impair of the 13 megapixel ended and he pulls it out or I'm like this mean i i've had to take a lot of photos of my phone so like on my own as I probably hate pics on my phone he just probably just photos and videos only has a better camera I am I use the sprint Optimus G for a period time which ad has a 13-megapixel camera that's is that right Michael and then the eighteen t is the four other 88 correct yeah and and the pictures were we're we're good but not great you know it was great that they were in 13 megapixels so you can blow it up and then but then you didn't don't want to zoom in that much because the quality of the pictures isn't that good and the HTC one is the similar story dipika sures are good but not great and then the downside of course that even if you get a perfect shot you can't zoom in that much yeah so if you're just looking at the pictures on the phone they look pretty darn good you're putting them on your your big monitor your TV here printing them out to poster size you're gonna run into some problems there so the depicted have pretty much the same kind of their can make its own it and the 40 foot that pretty much have it out some vallecano yeah I'd say they have about the same image quality so I what do you think Michael I think age is trying to change the conversation away and trying to move it away from from the megapixels and they've said as much I would say that the megapixel still matters resolution still matters to some folks but not to the degree that it should it should make the difference in your buying decision if you take a lot of photos your view no no no your view right we're like a Lumia 920 or something like you know I'm just discussing this on this HTC one that I'm looking at right now in another piece and if you're not planning on taking family photos that you can zoom into and frame and stuff and put on your wall you're going to be doing just fine if you are planning on doing stuff like that then this is you know then a 4 megapixel camera is not going to do it for you regardless of what phone it's on one thing I she like above it no this time the phone that other way the camera and then the preview button i got i like for me I after a windows phone down like I am never ever getting in the zone I don't hear there's a I know I'm here is like the best Windows Phone ever I know the other guy most are they even have the best tip I best like I'm Microsoft home and it's free I'm like no I think I'll pay you hundred-dollar I just take this microphone I might know ok so I'm just telling me it's like I am never getting a win as far as I did you say it's good it's good when that there are multiple platforms to choose from it sounds like maybe you wouldn't buy a windows yeah yeah yeah if you're if you're stuck choosing an android phone for its camera odda yada yada if you're sharing photos if you're using for social media the ones cameras is going to do just fine yeah yeah we'll make em look beautiful on the device too oh yeah Alex thank you for joining us very much and that's as good as I have a long duration as I do that the some of the features from there with you come down you see my mom leave like an up day that you think you'll be able to delete videos leave i got holiday or something they'll come or that's like you know that's wrong with that why would you need to zoom in on a video because i know you can zoom in on a zoe on the HTC One but but why would you zoom in on a video I just you know maybe get a closer shot to what were you looking at like uh you know they separate some to you what are we watching a movie and it's like somebody like background like maybe like I should be like oh well with that you wanna be pizza mia mia you can you can take a screenshot of video playing on most android phones and go into the gallery open it as a picture and pinch to zoom as much as you'd like I see another thing I was like is that I'm not trying to be negative here I was just trying to find out why would you want to zoom in on a video yeah less then unless you want doesn't sound like the pop-up window like no you can play seven types and watching videos without it no no no and you really need to you need to evaluate how often you're going to use that because I was very effusive about that technology on the galaxy note 2 especially but that's a device with a very large display on a 4.7 inch screen you're going to get cramped pretty quickly trying to like make a window hover over what you're trying to do and it's a feature that I think I if many people are like me and I have a pretty good pulse on the average user you're not going to use all that often for specific situations it's very good but it's not even using that on the note yeah I only use I use multi screen on the notes so rarely now that I was just checking to see if you can zoom on the video and you can I use multi screen on the note so rarely now I sometimes forget it's there but it's a powerful awesome feature but you have very limited to use cases for it unless you're multitasking all the time I feel with the month testify when I own agency one because I remember the one I've got a lot of problems the most have them the Buddy how they did it proved enough attacking or that's what router looks like only HTC One you of your nine your nine running apps and then you can throw them away if you want to close one I wish they had a close old button and yeah they may did then they might build a close all button and what's nice about it though is that you can instead of pressing to hold to get into multitasking like on a lot of phones you double tap the home button which to me is a faster quicker thing Brandon William Tony sorry I know you have them to what do you guys think about that no I I like the way it multitasks I'm only missing a glozell button because I like to have all my applications closed and instead of swiping nine times up I'd rather much press a button like on samsung phones to have everything closed down and I oftentimes restart and not shut down plus boot up again because I like to clear up memory I I think that HTC is added to Android's experience by doing the grid of nine because in in stock Android you only get like three or four on the screen at the same time and I'm like Tony I wouldn't want a closed off button because for the times that I've checked the RAM on the one I've always got so much available no matter how hard I'm pushing it and without managing apps that every app opens quickly so I don't see any reason to close all the apps at one time maybe one at a time which you can tell it's it's not it's not for memory in my case either so it manages memory perfectly and it has a lot of memory in my case it's for seeing or not being able to see my application history I'll give you an instance I go to the gym I leave my phone on one bench I go workout on on one machine at the end and I come back I doubled up and I see if somebody worked with my phone because I had the latest applications there ah that's an interesting little security feature that's crazy you can do that on any phone i guess but that's really cool way of figuring out of someone messed with your phone yep cool man we Alex we will have to wrap it up so please make this your last question all right is actually not quite Molokai create criticism kind of my head within a month talkative you guys it just like in general like a bit much unboxing video and the personal unboxing the phone is like okay so here phone and if you have some headphones and they have some chonies me to put data type and that I best focus on the phone and I mean when I was not a much video I actually see people attended the headphone seen over the hedge authorities and their voice mike is their control models so when I'm watching an unboxing video i expended see more of a what what what's inside the box because when we seen what pump the new neck and a predicar matures in other videos so I mean it's not like I said I can't actually tell you that you guys but I'm like a lot of a lot of textures in it and it's like when i unbox the phone is that then we'll probably not much on there what's inside phone and then i gotta gotta pay phones we have to charge us up some homework like no one here let me address that i agree with you that there's a need to look at stuff but for the longest time in the last like three years the things contained in the box were literally all the same there was no differentiation for the headphones we're starting to see that come back now like the HTC One comes with this killer set of headphones the the galaxy s3 came with a unique set of headphones and so just because that's happening we're going to start paying a little bit more attention to what comes in the box you know chargers are still the same but headphones are changing a little bit and hopefully we maybe one day start seeing accessories again like a maybe a case back in the day everyone came with the case HTC always bundled up ouch every I always had a case of some kind so I that's a good that's a good point i will try to look at the other stuff especially if there's something to talk about and the agency headphones are those like beef but I not be that's the beats Tony you have them yeah it's right here it's not beats its most probably something in collaboration with beats but they are not beats branded they are HTC headphones and as you can see there's no branding on it except for the HTC branding on the button itself I'm not sure if you can see it it still got the rap on it right there but no it's not not beat at all but there are these are about the best sounding headphones which I have ever listened to you and I compare them all the time with my high end sure st 535 speaking of the HTC One and what's in the box i gotta gotta go find out what that is so we got it we got to wrap it up here soon right yep we gotta thank you guys think that happy i try to be up here next show thanks no exams you can pack them unboxing feedback thank you Michael let's go a full circle and you pick the last person we talk to you tonight judge sounds perfect that sounds good I think that Jesus and who wants to talk to Michael raise your hand no I'm just gonna say well uh we'll go ahead and Oh God and then I love um oh my god duh I haven't talked to it's been like a month and a half and we should probably close with a veteran let's talk to donessa can we do that you're mildly excited about that yes I am very excited hey welcome back welcome back guys I've been uh what were you get the chat has been focused on dogs and hideous and while drinking wine i think that's that's awesome that's good we have a good chat going on yes is that me Sam and Dominique oh I think in a few others became friends over Twitter and not married Tony aren't you got you glad to be on Twitter now so we can make friends like a good leg I'm happy that we can finally steal Nokia's punch line it's bucket now live connecting people yeah yes I think it's great that Sony is using Twitter think is absolutely great me too I'm glad to know what's what's what's new in terms of sweet screenshot uh what's new in terms of HTC here for you I know you're an HTC superfan are you uh what's your feeling on how this integrates with facebook home and all that kind of stuff well um just like I think it's steven earlier today that oh what is this nothing aside from the fact that we lost your video yeah it's telling me that somebody took a capture all the time on your back oh you're back okay well um like Steven it's not bad I'm a mild user of facebook i use facebook because i used to play a lot of online video games and that was that's my way of keeping in touch with everyone and old friends and everything i have everyone from my high school in my facebook and I don't talk to them that much it shows that this new HTC first I think is good for people that are constantly on facebook I wouldn't make it like a thing that i would use because it's just it's not for me I'd rather use Twitter Instagram and things like that but it is good for people that absolutely love facebook but not for me yeah so so this is one of the reasons that I wanted to finish up with you because like we have heard from very habitual facebook users we've heard from people who couldn't care less about Facebook we haven't heard the HTC super fan perspective and it sounds to me like the first mid-range specs and kind of low profile are not enough even for you to justify it and HTC is like your favorite ever yes oh well what I always say about um phones that are high in and made like right there in the middle is that they tried to aim those phones for everyone so everyone can buy them you can make really what's the point of having a phone that is Facebook based if it's I n you're just going to see pictures talk to people you want a high in phone is because you would like to take pictures video and things like that and you need your phone for a whole lot more than just Facebook right so that's that's the question this is what I and kind of trying to figure out and the conversation is shifted we don't have this old question any more of like why would you want a facebook phone we you every phone as a facebook phone and all that it confuses me that the HTC first is a mid-range device I mean we know they're focused on the one for their premium kind of coverage but you know why I launched a facebook device is a mid-tier unit that doesn't necessarily excite I can answer to that if you wish I would love you to answer them nice i think that they they are targeting the the emerging markets and the those in the market for a budget phone if you got to think of it last time i've heard facebook was well over 700 million users and that's a huge potential owners pool or clients pool and if you consider countries which are not like the US or the UK or great countries with great economical statutes but emerging markets like i don't know i don't want to point names or fingers right now but those who are in the market for a phone which is functional and will also happen to help you keep in touch with your friends then I think the HTC first is the perfect solution for those sure and and I don't mean to say it's not going to it's not going to sell well and I think it's a good match for the people i was talking about earlier in the show like the the live you know from excuse me the AL users the people who use Facebook as the internet it's just a move that i wasn't necessarily expecting especially considering the status did you then I said did you have an HTC status at one point no um the first age 50 that I ever had was the mytouch 3G from t-mobile then my cousin gave to me and um matter knows sorry no one hooked you yeah that one I was before that I was all like all the way sony ericsson and once that i had the phone in my hand I was like can you please please I'm begging you give it to me and he sold it to me but really low price and I i was absolutely hooked up after that with android and everything and i don't know it's just that after that um going back to the thing it my one of my friends he told me Oh have you heard about the HTC first and everything you get that I know you will get your you're gonna get that phone and I'm like oh no it is no it's not for me since i think it's it's just like the chacha when the chacha first came out I was like really it looks like a weird laptop that it's just hard plastic and it was weird and awkward I thought the the thought behind it was really cool but making a device solely for a social network is not I think it's kind of pointless to me are you going to run the the rom on your on your device on your higher-end HTC device whichever your room I don't think so cuz I use whatsapp it's a messenger and I used to have the option of popups and since I get constantly texted by my friends now I won't be I don't know looking for something for school and I will get that pop up and it will interrupt completely everything that I'm doing and of course it's not the same because you will get the notification in the middle and in this case is on the very top is still like your concentrated doing something and then the pop-up comes up and you don't know exactly like you just you get caught up and you get either really pissed off when you're like oh this is the person I want to talk to but it's always like in both extremes to me and I got annoyed and I had to turn it off after like less than a week so chat heads are not a good fit that's interesting guys I don't want to dominate the floor tonio Brennan if you guys have a question reviewed no I'm good unless janessa has a question for any of us well yes I have a question and it's really not out of nowhere but it's kind of random I was talking to my brother about this do you guys think it's absolutely necessary or it will be a good thing to have shutter buttons for the phones now that a sense tastes completely stopped having them because I have this phone and is really big is this sensation XL and I mean come on it's hard to try to figure out when you taking a picture of everyone and you're trying to figure out where is the the button in the middle to touch there's a front facing camera for that yes but you know it's not the same genre the same pixels and I I like this conversation because I think every phone should have a shutter button and that was interviewing Simon I forget his last name from HTC we were talking about building the HTC One and whether they talked about having a shutter button and they said yeah we talked about it but we didn't do it and I think it's just because they wanted to keep with the clean design I think at the very minimum they should be OEM should do what Apple did and have the volume plus button be the shutter cuz that helps so much with studying the phone as you know from other devices that have to have a button so um random i agree with you a night but i think the clean look I don't have a good enough lighter but i think the clean look could be preserved just by you know doing something exactly whilst i load that volume rocker just right let me help you i got there too light here oh yeah yeah yeah I i agree i can't no I'll stop talking Johnny yeah no it's left its locked on me oh this gets okay um III think that it's so yeah I cannot agree more with you Brandon I think that hardware the buttons are good they're not just good for shutter things cuz they yeah the volume up thing on the iphone is great but for jumping into the camera with a quickness I don't want to have to look at the phone when i unlock it to jump into the camera if something's happening right now this pocket and take it out and go slightly the half the time when I'm taking a quick shot with the Lumia and I've got it in my pocket the camera is launched before it leaves my pocket because I know where that button is I'm impressed and hold and the cameras ready I'm BAM there it oh yeah I don't know why but it was something that I started seeing and I was like wait why are they making phones like this now because it's so practical I mean it takes from the from the design and a really nice aspect of the whole phone but so sometimes you want to take a picture with the back-facing camera or the back camera and you don't have that button you don't have you have to like look at the screen and zoom in and zoom out and I don't I think it would be nice like the iPhone you can use the one of the bun bun says it's already there hey I was even thinking maybe somebody should make an app or something because it's always good to have that shot shutter button because sometimes I click and non clicking the options or I'm clicking the back button and it's a little annoying but it's not impossible to live with and then that there's always the other side of the story and those who are advocating against a dedicated camera button because pushing a button needs pressure from your hand and oftentimes that pressure for pushing down a two-stage button might and use some blur into your images so I'm just saying that I would love a dedicated camera phone camera button on the phone but those who advocate against that bring this to the table this explanation yeah well i believe so I'm how I have really nice control of my holes for the way I use my hand because because I used to draw on paint on the computer and I most people even with with the button here they didn't they click it and they move the phone day they have shaky hands for some reason and we will always have that problem but i don't know i think it would be nice to have that back but i absolutely agree with Tony let's let's wrap it up if you guys don't have anything else to say Michael dinner sir well somebody's asking me for us to ask Michael to say that he's i will say i do not appreciate you asking i will say this i have to watch this by the way if you get a lot of notifications a pebble lets you know about them freaking i need to watch iron man 2 and i need to watch The Avengers first I've only seen the first one so I'm going right why now well she's eerie watching Star Trek for the 45th time but yeah I will someday someday that will happen thank you for asking i'm glad and by the way i'm glad to end the show with a veteran visitor and thank you for it was a pleasure yeah thanks come back and with this i think we ran way over a one hour 30 minute mark let's see Brandon minimun a deterrent if he was with us tonight today thank you very much Brendan any final closing thoughts on your end um I still want to have a the facebook home thing but we had we had a roundtable will put a link up on this video that goes back to that video in case anyone wants to hear more about Facebook home and what some of us think about it and we also have mr. we had mr. Michael Fisher today / tonight Michael thank you very much for being here do you have any closing thoughts yeah thank you for having me Tony and I think that there is there just to multitude ways of ways to make your smartphone social facebook has just introduced a new one and I'm glad we're not just missing it and I'm excited to try it will you know stay tuned everybody we will check it out and we'll have some thoughts and I was Anton denied and I thank you very much for joining us I'm sorry again as usual we didn't get the chance to talk to everybody but we'll try to do our best we run again over time and we'll try to keep it simple to three-minute conversation stay tuned to pocket now next week huge stories coming I cannot talk about it but trust me you want to be there to read it and with this thanks again for watching and have a great day / night maybe