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I think we are live hey everyone welcome to the first episode ever of pocket now VIP where we're going to sit down and hang out with the biggest names in mobile tech I'm Brandon minimun editor-in-chief of pocket now and with me I've got a guy that you've seen before if you have access to an internet connection mr. jon rettinger from TechnoBuffalo welcome John hey brand it's good to uh it's good to be here it feels like familiar surroundings yes yes Jon and I both have a unhealthy addiction to to technology and mobile gadgets gadgets tree so for years now we've been friends we've we've been talking about this stuff we obsess about this stuff probably to an extent that isn't normal would you say John I davish blame our wives get bunk beds as to that as well it's just not healthy yeah yeah I got a when's the last time that okay so back in the day um I could take a phone home to my girlfriend at the time who I now I'm married to and she would be impressed by a phone but as time went on and his phone's got more and more similar that really doesn't happen anymore what was the last phone that you could impress your wife with man I the last phone that my life is ever impressed with this is gonna be sad was the blackberry pearl I brought it home to her in red and you couldn't believe it after that just been all downhill she just she's appeared like such any difference now I'm like look HTC One she's like mad like look galaxy s4 yeah and and you gotta like you gotta sell you gotta sell it to them like listen listen to this video it's got boomsound it's it's louder isn't it yeah I think it understand it quad course why do I need that I found my something like you don't but quad cores you know relieve the international s40 like coors my bloating if you had if you have it in red then the response would be totally different i think i think that's the thing i got to get into red she was blown away earlier I got her a pink razor I mean years ago the original raiser in pink and she was shocked at that too so maybe just a color she just need something like new and flavorful flavorful every phone is silver and black and and pretty much the same white all over them they don't feel dumb looking at her right now what what phones you do you have around you right now all right so what I'm staring at right now um galaxy s4 for sprint white ah HTC HTC One a cream cool ah about the first sitting here see I've got the International octo-core galaxy s4 enakku box uh LG optimus g pro oh well if you got here Galaxy Nexus I believe this one's running um I know what they don't this is hack I think it's running new not Mozilla OS well my they get my blinked I've I Firefox OS did no no not firefox lightest ubuntu that's the one that's a droid razr maxx droid razr maxx and evo 4g LTE all rise my stash sit on my desk gotta you've gotta help of dutch / there by the way everyone if you are having audio problems or video problems we're doing the best we can sometimes these Google Hangouts just don't have the best fidelity but hopefully it will clear up so you had the you of the octa-core galaxy s4 have you used that or is it still in the box yet none of use it over here somewhere look looks identical um so honestly it's not it is often quarters but it's two separate quad core chips it's a 1.9 I think in a 1.2 and we ran a quadrant score on it the quadrant score was like a thousand higher than the carrier s4 so it's not that much faster I think it only kicks up of course you really need it haven't found anything that actually uses octa-core see ya yeah and i think that's a common misconception is that the galaxy s4 orthotic or actually uses eight cores at the same time but it's either one set of four cores or the other right yeah and i'm guessing it probably uses the lower clocks we of course most of the time to conserve battery lights you let's tie to probably be getting a slower performance you would on just a straight up you know quad-core chip but you don't get the primary to say I've got eight cores in my phone before you got sucker it's more than more than most people's desktop but it's oh wait wait devices you have on your desk right now and you guys guys I've got a clean desk here I've only got the HTC One you're making me feel sloppy well you know sometimes you just got to tuck them away um I'm really fascinated that you're over life to which I'm just got a tougher more yeah that's it that's going to have to be another show so I want to know what phone you're using right now i am using as my daily driver i just finished to review today we just don't want to go up tomorrow of the galaxy s4 i have switched back to the HTC one she's back which is which is my baby right now i love i love me some HTC one x what is it about the HTC One so I the big deal a thing from you the s4 I think they're both great phones I think you go with the s4 if you want a removable battery you want expandable storage I think those are two compelling reasons to pay ps4 over the one um whenever I whenever I travel I carry an external battery charger with me so you know with those little power batteries I don't need an extra battery I don't care and this has 32 gigs of storage so that's funny not not yeah not a giant issue for me I love to build quality of it I like picking it up in the morning and it's cold like that cold metal deal is awesome i just i look like the way the film fuels and honestly for me I like kind of rooting for underdog a little bit HTC it's no secret has probably their whole company riding on this phone oh yeah and I kind of dig that imagine then that's really on a dance I think it's kind of cool so you know for my money I'd go if I decided to your contract signing on HTC One yeah yeah me too and it seems like every other reviewer everyone that has an opinion thinks the same thing do you think Samsung played it too safe yeah so I mean it's the big question for that is even though all reviewers think the same thing by how many how many times you think galaxy s4 is gonna outsell the 1321 probably four to one ton um so yeah I think it just comes out like crazy um yeah I think that same time totally played same I think they went the apple route just sort of really mine ain't broke don't fix it we can't call it the galaxy s3s so just call it for um I do think they call it the s4 with actually the number 4 into the room and remotes I think they thought people were too stupid to realize what 1v men that's true but also I mean if you know once we get to the 6 and the 7 i mean the the VIII and the VIII i actually they got to stop that crap no that's that's true um i don't think i'm noticing about the s4 and a few field on yours too buzz if you like there's like a lurid grease on the back like it's like slimy kinda the hyper glaze thing it's it's a it's a marketing point but i don't think i think give the tracks from you know the experience it's so slimy and slippery yeah a tip 3 i've had something on my hands like I don't know why cuz like something on my hands call how do you feel about the durability of the HTC One have you have you dropped it yet have you been rough with it I i have i have dropped it and drop them from pretty lehigh distance onto concrete when i picked it up and honest guy couldn't find a contact point i couldn't even see where it was scratched and damaged wow so it's gonna be really durable I will say though HTC swapped out our units actually a few times at first 18teen if they said that the home button was totally flush with the top of it you couldn't feel where it was yeah um and I just walked it out a couple days ago because the simulator is operating so that's so strange and I think they're having some production issues because um I just got this AT&T version for personal use i actually bought at full price because i love it that much and I've got little tiny gaps in certain spots it's not a design thing because it's inconsistent all around the device and I've seen some people on YouTube complaining about this but I there there are some issues the power button is interesting because we got the international version it was completely flush and I thought that that was just kind of part of the design but then the AT&T version came in and it yeah it's up a little bit yes I'm not supposed to be flush at all in fact that you who have accessed all the phones went out and purchased a divisive full price there are money I think says a lot about the phone because in the reality is we don't do that all that often yeah yeah that's that's very true um speaking is we're talking about durability on the international version I don't know how it happened and it really makes me worried but I got a dent in the back like a little hammer look I don't know I don't know I did I it's like a little dimple it looks like um it looks like you know someone kind of took their knuckle and smashed it in and it's it shouldn't do that you know no did you hold smash it you know I'm image smash whenever things don't go my way I do a Hulk smash so it's possible that the one was in the way one day if something doesn't like if you're trying to launch a website and it crashes couple seconds later pog smash hug smashed screen what do you think about the camera and and I should I ask about that in two ways what do think about the quality and what do you think about it only being four megapix was that enough or is that not working for you so the quality i think has been has been really awesome actually we did a full comparisons the camera quality versus everything yes four versus the Lumia versus the iphone 5 and I think he eats you see what really helped so I think it's a misconception to say that it's only 4 megapixels it's four separate sensor stacked on top of each other as opposed to 14 megapixel sensor so I think the qualities been awesome where I think you lose out is we need to use digital do I think that's where you see the lack of megapixel edge so to speak with your doctor being a digital zoom it's incredible in low-light pictures look ridiculously good video quality is I mean they're all the same to be diplomatic um but I think it's been a great phone I think people get really caught up with my own like it's only 4 megapixels that sucks I didn't realize that it's it's actually different megapixel layout than other phones it's at the low light performance it's just uh it's it's like night vision I think it's ridiculous right yeah it's really cool they've done an incredible job of it may be learned from each iteration their phone so that each one got better and better absolutely what do you think about sense are you liking it more than stock Android or do you stop clean light minimal I still prefer cleaning Android but not by much anymore I like the new sense it's less heavy I don't use I know both our sites rumblin food but um I mean maybe I'm fighting myself you know yes of the foot here but don't you believe you all that much I don't I tell you immediately I mean it's for a certain kind of person I think and that's and that's great and for them it's for the people that you know don't know Flipboard exist and they're like oh look at this thing it's kind of pretty I can get all my news right here yeah it's I mean I've got it you know a couple home screens to the left and I've got texture than ever I very rarely look at it um but I like the new sense i think that HD got the hell out of their own way with it which is nice as opposed to sense for which was crazy and the big bad keyboard i was on the original HTC One X oh yeah but I launched with the arrows and it was awful I think they really have come a long way I think the combination this phone is the device I build quality rivals rivals Apple that's uh that's saying something right there dude same can be tremendously me HTC's come so far I remember before i started doing tech reviews i was watching your videos and you were reviewing the jazz jam and the JAF jar by i'm a you know I me I might through their name on all the HTC product that's fun to see them to come from there to here obviously I remember watching your videos you've had like a wire rack or something in the background like filing stuff oh yeah Jon and I used to watch each other's videos back in the day this is probably 2,000 what eight does before before I started making videos and I started Mike to die at 2007's almost even good earlier than that and it's just it's just fun to go back and look at our amateurish setups and our through you know 240p 320p videos and I i actually did on pocket now a review of the blackberry blackberry was it oh yeah everywhere which Blackbird it was but I I did it for pocket now take before technobuffalo was even even a thing yeah do you ever go back and look at it looked some of these older things that that you review like yeah bones that were so thick and you would take it out of the box and be like wow this is real thin man this is the thinnest i've ever scheme and it was like 20 millimeters i get nostalgic whenever we hit like big milestones i go back and look I'm it's funny you mention i remember the remember the tilt the tilt to that ed came out yeah i think it's kind of the joy of course so I mean that was incredible i remember you and I talking like I couldn't believe it like screen went up and down like I was it was touch and it was running windows on it I mean you obviously loved windows mobile well when Hannibal that's all there was back then I mean you could let well there was palm in blackberry but you know windows mobile was the only real smart operating system in my who loves windows mobile oh you loved windows mobile more than anybody's loved any operating system that give you credit for it you stuck with it you know through the bad windows mobile times and now into the light ages of Windows Phone but look at that phone be like man it was huge even the original g1 really I was crazy ash keyboard um but yeah I look back in a whole video and it's like I can't be people actually watched us it the Internet has come a long way and you know back then um you know things were different hard today there it was a different time it's crazy in this industry because like six months is like a decade you know in normal world you know you go from in six months you go from single core dual core 2 quad core two octa-core you know whatever 1604 it's going to be it's it's crazy to see the evolution things change so fast and it's actually consumer I think it's hard to pick a phone that you just want to be new for like a week yeah yeah you just you don't want it to be obsolete very quickly speaking of 16 core processors do you think that we're approaching that time that we've all been talking about wear specs really don't matter anymore because Android for example is just fast enough and then we're going to see innovation somewhere else yeah I think for most users like the average folks like you know not not the ones who root you're kinda crazy stuff like bleep you I think for the average phone you sure yeah absolutely not there's any difference you can pick me up a dual core or quad core phone I don't think at all now that being said there's always sort of those leadies there is the other folks are at the end of the bell curve they're gonna be the early adopters for all these new faster phones and there might be a reason why you need faster phones you know maybe hearing fingerprint scanners maybe some sort of augmented reality and take advantage of a faster processors I think the technology just doesn't need the processor speed yet but not the same won't you know in the future yeah and I think that's like the most important thing and it's hard for us to sit here today and and talk about what a you know a 16 core processor on a phone could possibly do because we don't have applications that even need quad core today quad cores just let it fun necessity you know what let's do it again in like three years we're gonna kind of myself Oh watch this video and being like what idiots man they not know that 16 cores is necessary for holographic displays you know what's going to happen because we've been on video before in the past saying like this iphone resolution this you know the the retina resolution you'll ever need anything better than that it can't get any better than that and then you have the HTC One which is like looking through a window and it's it's unbelievably it looks like there's a sticker on the display like giving your first taken out of box and I mean they look like like real screens I always look back at like the original iphone screen and like it looks good to me at the time and I look at it now or the original iPad screams like you speaking of iPads what what's your tablet of choice these days tablet of choices I've had many i prefer android for my phone for me though there's nothing better on a tablet than iOS you know we agree on a lot of things but that's one place we disagree and you wrote this nice article several months ago about why you were making the ipad mini of your new daily driver and it's yeah pushed aside the ipad 4 and you said that the portability was enough to overlook the shortcomings of the low quality display or not low quality but you know not requisite and it you're standing by that that's interesting I've still I tried switching back to the ipad 4 and it just it felt too big to me I really like that screen size I don't know I I don't know why I can't quantify it i mean the regular size ipad is not you know so giant you can't carry it with you I just I really like that 7 inch screen size I didn't think I was going to um yeah I've got a nexus 7 here that I like as well but if I'm traveling or picked up a tablet it's nine out of ten times invidi ipad mini about you you know my tablet usage has been down since I got the one you ever see that happening where like you usually go home and you check your email on your iPad but you get a new phone in so you're doing it on your phone and your reading on your phone all the time i use the ipad in more things like I'll get up and I'll check my email i'll go throw out to forget out of bed and at night I want you to be with my wife and like sometimes what manage my fantasy sports team but it's really the extent of my tableting right now is your is your tablet usage down over time yeah it seems like it is going down over time um but I mean especially when you get phone to get bigger and bigger like I mean imagine a galaxy mega already got a six inch boner it's an inch smaller than your template what do you think about the phablet saying the things they it was literally getting bigger bigger tips take a like an iPad at your pocket phablets are remarkably popular because they work for a lot of people but they don't work for me because my hands are small and i really like I ergonomics you know what I mean yeah no that's fair enough um I really like the galaxy the Galaxy Note series are like the real big Samsung devices that I can look past some of the TouchWiz failings and maybe differ on the note B when it gets all the new you know s4 asked features right um I think it's like this it's a novelty like it's like this there any but this is my phone and it's like oh that's my head and people look at me like I'm crazy it's huge and I have you know I got relatively decent sized hands so it's it's not like a organ I guess you I just it's like an ology it's a it's a big phone how long you review the note 2 how long did you use it as your daily driver before saying this is a little too much I'm gonna go back to my smaller phone dude I would have still I would have still uses my daily driver before the HTC one came but it seemed to have a habit of it the same breeder broke in our heart do you do you like what do you do with those some readers is I think so i use a adapter for nano SIM to micro sim I think I just like tearing them up yeah I've got I've got some of those have you ever tried cutting a micro sim to a nano-sim I do I have the cutter um and then I you actually use the shell afterward doesn't adapter if you want but that never that breaks into right you can slide it back in its time because you need it for the iphone and freakin apples on what uses that silly nanos entered are at least 11 z is that silly nano standard yeah no one's really picked up on that speaking of apple let's talk a little bit about apple we're gonna talk for another 10 or 15 minutes i just i definitely want to get apple into the mix food sounds like you're not picking up your iphone 5 lately no you know while i was waiting for my HTC want to get fixed i used the iphone for a couple of days um and like I again what people say about you know loving iOS like it's very functional and it works you to check email you to play games need to browse the web to watch video social media it works and it works very very well but I think for those of us that are served in the industry are really into the technology it works but it just stale it's the same experience since 2007 we even I can mend a lot put a different launcher on my android boom yeah we should want something different to be exciting that Apple used to have I mean I don't care if it's you know will give your hurt faster has former megapixels like mmm it's it's not it's time for a leap and iOS 7's got to be that leap what do you think Apple can do with ios7 to make it compelling again we're talking to this around the office so I mean obviously I have no saying it but saying is no great having discussion I would be fine with Apple not releasing an iphone 5s for another almost another 6-8 months another year the iPhone 5 is so competitive with the current generation flagship still competitive with the s4 is so competitive HTC one people are still gonna buy it it's got apples logo on it if iOS 7 isn't ready is it going to blow the world away with something new don't release a minimal product over these two 5s that's got a fingerprint scanner in iOS 6 or iOS 6 point whatever you want to live inside they call it it's going to hurt the brand more iOS 7 needs to redo I think how users use the phone keep widgets he improved notifications I needed improve notification drop-down could do something with the lock screens that is giving me a camera button ya mean so eat a quick way to view information you can do it on Android do it on windows so you've been doing on blackberry 10 but you can't do it on iOS and at some point saying we're the best iOS because our application to the best not going to get you so far it's it's not enough and and what I learned from from the HTC One is that something that's very important that you don't get a lot is the light like I'll give you I'll give you one example on the HTC One you can turn off the lock screen on most android phones all android phones you can turn off the lock screen but HTC paid paid attention to that little action and so when you unlock the lock screen when you turn on your phone you don't have a lock screen look what happens a little animation it's a little de mariage i did another most people leave lock screens on but it's stuff like that little delightful things that make you go Oh some reveals a crap about the lockscreen someone spent time to make this like an awesome delightful experience and and iOS is just not that anymore it's it's got to be again and we sit here and we try to hypothesize about what they could possibly do and it's got to be some big stuff yeah it's gotta be I think see it's software is got to be huge may be combined at with some new hardware you know something crazy with NFC wireless charging you know something then it's already out there that Apple can you know claim they invented you know whatever call it like Apple Apple tap is really just you know NFC tub ya know or you know I charge which is why I was charged I'm een just something that's new I can get people excited again about apple and I think they're if they don't hit it out of the park this next round it's going to be a lot of trouble I agree what if they did do an iphone 5s and it was you know had a 12 megapixel camera and some other stuff but it had a wireless charging feature that could work across the room would that be enough for you oh I get the killer feature give it something to get people excited about give it a killer feature yeah if you charge across the room Oh that'd be crazy I mean I'd be worried about like lightning what's gonna be no body uh yeah you know but yeah it's something crazy what do you think I don't know I don't know I think I think we're going to see a mega leaf one of these days of battery tech and we're going to go from like this one's once a day charging thing to like even double that or triple that and it's going to come from processor technology it's going to come from battery technology but for the last 10 15 years it's been the same bigger batteries bigger batteries some processor tech a little bit of processor deck but it's been basically flat in terms of how long your phone can go without needing a charge very true totally agree and and if one company can do it because they control both the hardware and the software it's Apple I mean Samsung really I mean think of reinvent Android so it uses less power but they're not going to do that it's I follow the electric car industry very closely to set a personal interest and the battery technology there we have now is pretty common in cell phones laptops even lithium-ion cells there's a new technology coming called lithium fair which it sounds fancy but it's a new array of chemicals that supposedly can increase battery life health and charged by a factor of 10 whoa and coming i would say in the 2016 like actually in a product 2016 time frame which is pretty awesome and if they can do it in cars room they can be miniaturized you know further the mobile industry so very very soon i think we're going to see example you mentioned it that's all is that tech really expensive right now super expensive they did a first test that it works and you can just check it out lithium-air if I family company that's had tried it with Tesla which does always seem to be on the cutting edge of technology just reveal the damn patents for some battery air technology that they're claiming is going to hit their cars in 2017 that will be awesome and a little plug here guys if you like cars you like tech technobuffalo has this awesome new series called driven where they put them two together and they twist them around and you get a cool video with cars and tech so check that yeah check thanks man check that out um so let me ask you some industry white better some broad questions what are you so far in 2013 it's only been four months what are you what have you been most disappointed about Apple mmm and in general and Apple um I like the applet had a fight I like the Apple that during a big trade show would send out invites to a conference I like the Apple when Steve Jobs would get up there and say flash is dead you know we don't need to be a fight to be something exciting I miss that fight that Apple had I just don't have any more you can disagree with them all you want uh but I i missed that discussion I think we just haven't had anything you know like they use to be no joke you go to a trade show or go to Vicki no apples in that an invite just there's been there's been nothing what if what if they're I think maybe the whole industry is doing this as a whole they're changing the release cycles to be a little bit slower what if every two years they have a bone like a big fiery product that's awesome is that okay or do you want it to be back again a one-year increments nah and whatever they feel that products are ready for fine but I just missed the vitriol between you know CEO is going back and forth you know the eric schmidt and Steve Jobs saying I'm gonna go nuclear on google and it's that kind of stuff like the head of a company that is just passionate you can see that passion you just don't see that Tim Cook like very slow Southern drawl you know what it talks about iOS I just I don't feel that excitement anymore about apple on just on this point I got my start reviewing Apple devices and uh yeah thanks do you think that I think I think one of the coolest things about apples that they they do risky things they create segments that might be a total failure but they do it really well so it's a success do you think this i watch thing will happen and if so do you think that it's going to ipad if I the watch industry um that's a good question and the what you're saying like by I catified with Apple has been really good at finding industry that nobody knew existed or no one even knew they needed it may can get something that you have to have um nst you know we said this to print this about tablets like I didn't stray see the need for a tablet until I had a tablet but now I get it I don't see the need for an iWatch yet I don't see what it could do that I couldn't do on my phone I don't need a second screen type system you know for my phone on my watch um I think thank you buddy can pull it off though I think it would be Apple um you know maybe there's that cool thing that we didn't know you could do you know with your with your from watch then I'm kind of excited to see what it is I do think they'll edevalla program products i watch something we'll see absolutely and and that's awesome that you think that's going to happen I think that any time this happens where some guy who knows something says something the effective if they make a product I have no idea how I would use it I don't think I need it anytime that happens it's a mega opportunity for a company to show you how you can use it and make you want one and millions of other people want one totally agree it makes you think of Google glass which coincidentally what would you think of google glass that's an interesting topic of conversation so far I'm not very excited about it I you know I I think it's so far from there's so many people that really believe in it like it's going to transform society and we're thinking about it right here 2013 it's very early in 10 years is everyone gonna have glass on I think know what do you think I think it's deal I needs only gonna go one of two ways i an't either going to be did it everyone's gonna catch on chinko you everything earthen you like the segue it's just gonna say the segway reviews that's so funny I mean we were supposed to all be driving to work segways by now right yeah it's gonna be one of those two um I don't know I'm excited to use glass I'm excited to try it I it's good at I give Google credit for developing in the open and I wish where companies would do that saying okay we have an idea for a product here's what it is if you want to help us try it part of the movement we'd love it if it works then great but doesn't the work like the Nexus Q that ok least we tried excellent here's what we're doing here's our skunk works like let's let's develop in the open and that's really cool at Google assuming they don't get enough credit for it if you are a betting man what would you say would be bigger in five years smart watches or wearable class like computing things glass like computing things why do you say that because I always seem in movies is your movies um it just seems like people always want to way to like avoid talking to people and it seemed like you could still look at somebody and pretend like you thought you doing but still be you know watching your video again Carter your eyes oh my god you could be out there with your wife and you're watching the game it's not gonna be pretty well I mean Sean I wasn't near you now I go even Google glass there you go but no baby I'm doing work I mean the first thing that gets busy google glass you know it's going to be adult themed content make it more real let's not talk about through we've got young people watching so we're gonna finish things up here with one or two more questions what are you most excited about for the rest of this year i am from technology wise um I'm excited for iOS 7 which I still hope we're going to get a chance to see and I am excited and I'm gonna put he's a 2 thing on to kind of get three okay all right galaxynote3 because i love those giant screens and I'm excited to see if HTC makes a phablet that they do I will be over do you think HTC's gonna make a tablet that's gonna look like the one with a nice aluminum thin all that boom sound and everything do I hope so if they make like it five and a half inch HTC one called the two or whatever they want to call it I would use that so fast and be so excited about it so I want to see if they do that but I think for the note 3 is probably one that will actually see note 3 is going to be awesome what do you think HTC would do first a phablet or a tablet based on the success that they're going to have with the phone a phablet for sure they've tried tablet that's like a crowded market and it's still still still not mature enough at I haven't checked android tablet apps in a couple of months are they getting better he still has crappy is oh yeah no they're still there definitely getting better for pursuer are improving but the tablet world is just so crowded there so many options I remember they released the jet stream and it was like nine hundred dollars even on contract yet stream was terrible I would yeah it's it's so silly i would say phablet for sure hope you heard it here first although it seems like a reasonable train of thought that they would do a phablet because it's it's more competitive and they could probably win their if they do a bigger screen one thing right yeah totally agree i think i think they're seeing sort of little cracks in samsung's arm and i'm gonna try and hammer at home and i hope they come out with the crazy aggressive marketing campaign like like samsung did with apple I hope HTC does the same for samsung HTC really needs to the marketing and my brother emailed me the other day he reads the Wall Street Journal the paper version I didn't know they still make it and there was an eight page full page ad for the galaxy s4 like in other words for page turns of galaxy s4 that's crazy I saw you tweet about that this morning that's insane first of all I don't know anybody still read this one newspaper so good for your brother um but that that's that's incredible that's incredible ad buy that's what HTC needs to do why aren't they doing it I wish I do man you know I say I wish I wish I know remember remember the HTC you campaigned yes oh yeah why don't they bring that back do something I there quietly brilliant was great but you know no one wants to talk to the quiet guy in the corner be the loud guy screaming about how awesome your product is yeah and early indications I don't know if they still have it but on their website they had a slogan the HTC One yeah it still everything your phone isn't that sounds kind of Windows Phone ish you know the key on the beta test well that's got about and it's got to be it's got to be awesome and had it Angry has to be well we it sounds like we both agree that HTC did something awesome this year we're gonna end this episode of VIP is there anything else you want to talk about John uh just say thank you for for having us enthusiasm might not know Brandon I go way way way back as you mentioned to pre technobuffalo technobuffalo days and it's nice to see success that pocket now I add under hundreds in trip so thank you for thank you for having me oh you're in mega blush thanks man well thank you for joining us John you can find John on Twitter at John for lakers you can find all of his awesome videos at youtube.com slash TechnoBuffalo or you could just go to TechnoBuffalo calm and everything's there for you thank you everyone for joining us on 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