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2015-04-16
history lesson theme ships and modern musings on the state of leather-bound smartphones if you've got your ears to the cans for this installment of our weekly podcast you already know the answer and you know a thing or two about good taste too so kudos on today's episode we dive once again into the ever less mysterious LG g4 and run our fingers across its supple stitched leather backside sorry that's gross it's technically inaccurate we don't have the phone yet so we caress it in our imaginations accurate we don't have the phone yet so we caress it in our from Huawei to HTC from Nokia to bail no the g4 speculation the news of the week from Huawei to HTC from Nokia alcatel no not that alcatel plus we tell you what phone you should buy and we're paid a visit by the ghost of joe levi on episode 143 of the pocket now weekly the one week podcast where we discussed news and opinion from the world of mobile technology tablets smartphones wearables and beyond all that stuff you wish had when you kid from the studios of wer s in boston massachusetts i'm the man with a waking up problem and the hair to prove it michael fisher from that i'm joined by a pair of contributing editors with enough corn and wheat in their blood to make general mills himself flush adams out and hi Otto Huesman gentlemen welcome aboard what does that even mean knows what any of that means man podcast producer Jules Wong is doing his best to keep consumer technology talking to professional equipment here at the ers studios and listeners than is 630pm good afternoon was it nice it was a nice abrupt fade I felt like I but like I was kicked off a city as they have for months now the good people at LD West are making this episode of the weekly possible them and their outstanding LD West original adorning my torso right beside of the weekly possible them and they're out handing ldr right arm wallet under your left making it easy to get to either one whether you're standing crowd erect or limply languishing 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something specific implement the only job being to go out and deliver these phones and all that or do you think they're just gonna let you know slap a cap on whether existing you know whoever's doing the worst and sales right now if you're like well you're the dress today yeah I wonder about that it'll be like like it'll turn a sprint store into a pizza joint right yeah you're gonna be working the counter and Tim you're driving today all right I don't know but they hope to get 5,000 cars out doing this delivering phones to users you know that's pretty cool it's almost like a tmobile boom when you so when you think about it is talk about the device itself but how was your time with it it was good I you know I got out of the box the very first thing that I see is you know the awesome looking red color of the phone and uh yeah I just didn't want to put it down because of that color in the way it feels it's awesome so this is the device itself but I want to know I mean you had to pull some all-nighters to get those the phone delivered to you within the same day or you have to wait for you whenever they get whenever one of the drivers gets to you or what do you think so if it's not the same day you might as well just you know it offer free coconut chili right yeah right right right but but then you don't get the concierge service have like the changeover something I feel like this is gonna be like a grandmother's are gonna are going to want to do this maybe but then that's kind of like kind of old-school to right it's like and I'll just get an iphone but this is supposed to begin in September as a commenter rightfully points out that's iphone release time and um oh and then the comment devolves into a trollee bash on iOS users of course yeah would really go from five thousand girls to 50,000 cars compact right everyone in the chat is saying you've got some some issues with our feed apologies apparently it's hangouts we're we're back up here so I don't actually know what this situation is but everyone who's still watching thanks our life view count just went into the trash hangouts it's got to be atrocious today that's your patent but I'm son Ansem yeah if she you guys look great to me I don't know what the problem is on the broadcast side but you know what we're all having a good time and that's what matters was right Jules is going to listen to that point when he's at about our four or five of editing the high quality cut together out of all this trash and then he's gonna throw his computer then he too will have tech problems listen this is it this news feed is about to end because we're about to get to the end of it and that's this week in mobile history Adam doubt favorite series to write my favorite series to read one of those things is true you decide which one down tell us what happened this week in mobile history ah this week in mobile history is actually um it was a little bit light well I have to admit there wasn't a whole lot going on there were a couple of things coming full circle though which was kind of nice i'll start off i'll just give you a quick rundown i like the first story that i had i call it a missed opportunity because packard bell in 2002 was in that it was introduced in its pocket pc called the pocket gear and we reported on pocket now and there should have been a better headline than than what we had but it wasn't meant to be let's see then we have an mp3 player from brandon that he liked from dell in 2004 all those dell mp3 players yeah they were monster boxes of delight yes we had a wizard versus wizard comparison indeed slicks that windows supplies it was a singular 8125 versus the IM 8k jam which is basically the same in size with a differing hard candy shells and then the one of our fascinating pieces that i found from 2007 was a battery charger which he hath again oh it's a battery charger Gil yeah it's not big deal but this battery charger ran off of double-a batteries I am so mad at you actually put double a batteries in this case and then plug that into the bottom of your phone oh no totally I saw those the other used to sell iment that likes a 7-eleven and stuff and convenience yeah you opened some double a batteries and juice up your phone right quick cuz like what was the rating on phones back then was the milliamp hour rating probably like 806 I don't know six or seven no but and then the other thing from 2007 rolled around I that I've actually found the intro fascinating was a windows mobile 6 of great details from released HTC so even back in two thousand seven people were still asking the question am i going to get the latest version of the operating system so I thought that was kind of cool um and didn't that a lot of scanning headlines from 2000 a that came across microsoft introduces or Microsoft Surface arrives and I'm like what thats how emo's not right and I opened up the article and they're talking about the surface table top computer which they use in Hawaii five-o all the time but I've never seen anywhere else and then Adam Lane made an impassioned plea to keep mobile web alive so one of those two things was cool and the other one was a fitness guided finally a 2011 HBO GO video on demand came to iOS and Android but I thought it was interesting that you know this week in mobile history four years ago HBO GO video on demand came to iOS and then this year right around the same time HBO's independent online streaming services comes to iOS so I HBO has a has a long lasting relationship with iOS burying the lead here dad you know what I want you to get to uh and are we talking well there's there's two other choices and she's not the Mets not the one named after the fruit not the mango okay so first shots arrive of Angry Birds Easter yeah I'm an angry birds was still a thing and they had this seasonal game game boards that they would release for octo for halloween and labor day and arbor day and we were excited enough to post a lead story about Angry Birds Easter we were really really sad back in 2011 and that and right away they matched up this week in mobile history if they've got some deep angry birds game that just booked me with a 30 second ad anytime I'm playing any of my league freemium apps on on my head really oh no that's sucks i always pay to get rid of the ads because i don't like that it ruins the ruins experience for me hey there's um you know how many comments are on this post out um last I checked it ended in zero they go ball goose egg who cares about this week in mobile history except me listen keep writing these pieces for me and I'm you know we'll just arrange it that way because I like it I'm it makes me sad that you said that because when you said nobody cares about this week in local history spots including me including yeah I know it's not your favorite thing to do but it's fun it's fine you know it's a nice stroll back through memory lane and actually i think if my memory went back before 2009 this would be a lot more fascinating for me but you know i got in on the i got in late to the mobile tech scene so I never had a pocket pc that's mine that's my failing and I understand that that's the same time just gonna head down here when we were talking about that Sony CLE a which was a good time I also never watched movies that were made before nineteen eighty so well it's how I roll that's alright that's you know that's neither actually really it's time for us to help out to do our civic duty and help out some of our fellow smartphone sailors in distress Jules would you please take us into what phone should i get as parallel mariners on the storm-tossed seas of the smartphone world we're bound by honor and tradition to lend a hand when their turn comes to upgrade join us in the Q&A section as we try to help out Burt cocaine till the best thing I've ever Lakota we in wrapper and Andrew burgess as they struggle to decide which smartphone will be there next by the way if you write in twice or more than once and you detect that we are having trouble with your name the first time around and it's pronunciation please append notes to help us pronounce it on this go-around please Bert cocaine says we don't have any trouble with that name Bert cocaine says he sent us a message i think last week the one before San I want to go to to sprint and I need a the best Windows Phone there is and we were like there's no possible way you can do that sprint barely has anything so he's clarifying he says I'm moving from sprint to t-mobile that changes everything sprint does not have a range of choices for devices in my area next reason I'm leaving my three and moving to Windows Phone is more to do with use alongside a tablet than anything else I have a 7-inch galaxy tab for that i love but it's way too similar to my note 3 as far as the m8 vs 640 these just seemed like the best choices on t-mobile are there others for Windows Phone that are better than these hi Otto we're going to press you into service for the first time uh you know coming many times on this show as a tmobile escho team little boy yeah what what help can you lend to our friend Bert cocaine well anytime our nokia or our microsoft now Rep comes in just to show us the new nokia or microsoft phone we always end up having a conversation about how there are really no good windows phones on tmobile these days um especially at the store I work at where we don't carry the m8 for Windows that's oh sort of it's sort of a scattered um no no police on there um so really I mean the only the only good windows phone you can get on tmobile right now is the MA and I don't know if they're even still selling that one or if they've they've stopped the same way that we don't carry the Android I made anymore if you can get your hands on that that's probably what I'd recommend unless you don't mind paying full price and buying an unlocked windows phone that would be better I thinking of which essentially came across the news feeds today it came from a competitor so I think we can I think we're safe and mentioning this though that Windows Phone central posted a thing I'm today talking about ebates was selling unlocked and refurbished Lumia 1520 s for 249 dollars that's a nice lady whoa yeah so I was wondering and it's funny because i was reading this question when that came across Twitter I'm like ah and that and it's a really good thing that that came across litter because I had no other answers for you at all so uh huh I mean it is a refurb you got to keep that in mind there yeah you know but it's online just cuz oh hey just be able to get tmobile Wow absolutely and as I understand it hi Otto you should be able to heat up goes for that option or decides to buy alumium 9 30 which would be another recommendation of mine hardly an original one or even an 830 if you're trying to save some money the 834 what you pay it should be cheaper i still think or it should have been at lunch but it's it's a pretty good value you should just be able to grab an NSM from t-mobile and put in there right that's right yeah there we go Bert cocaine I hope you have some you have some luck there good luck in the move congrats on being satisfied with your tablet and you know we are going to see some new windows phone hardware this year but it's who knows at this point what what even month it's going to be you probably announce something it build but it's going to be a while so if you're looking to make this purchase now yeah 15 20 or 930 or the 830 if you're going to save some money and if you have a couple weeks see what the 640 XL is like maybe it'll be cheaper than the 830 but I think for my money I an 830 be a bit better by between those two just cuz the camera but the 1520 is a damn good deal though if it's a solid deal it is a refurb that gives me a little bit of pause if it's a green refurb let me not let green colors mad hot when that happened on this is what phone should i get number two you want to read lakota bees email adam doubt or however as soon as i find it what was the subject line oh you know why is choosing so hard okay I got this yeah dear flaca del team love what you're doing you got to put on the glasses I have been a loyal listener since day one I apologize if this email gets lengthy that's fine we're just going to go ahead and skip over a couple of things you use HD si si si you're on an iphone 6 and verizon iphone 6 is great at a power on the go for pho and photo editing and ague i'm assuming good camera um well try to switch between a lot of photo apps and get on tumblr so you're the one that gets on tumblr anyway it starts from a great radio down your works great job on this uh start to notice that the one gigabyte of RAM kills me and so I'll capsule an explanation point seriously considering galaxy note 4 but then I saw the Galaxy Note edge and I really liked it and might they feel it my handles good the curved screen made one hand is pretty easy ish and I think multi window and the s-pen could really help my multitasking however should i wait for the note 5 or the note f note 5 edge because i really like the edge on one side and not both sides like the galaxy s6 edge and that's not the right reason you should not like the galaxy s6 edge but we'll talk about that in a second I do have one of my lines ready for upgrade now and I want to breach really appreciate your guys input alright so this is easy right if you're going to wait for the note it's going to be September yeah member announced October availability that's a long time to wait if you're looking upgrade now upgrade now yeah so I wrote it down a couple of notes on this one great tasting phones because of the note edge but I'm afraid it will be a laggy mess before long if you if you go with a note for edge of the note the note edge which doesn't have a number not necessarily I mean what it won't it won't be why would if I would it be it's TouchWiz and that does not end well the TouchWiz does not age well that is correct but I just got the lollipop update on the note 4 on our verizon note for which we just took delivery on and I am I mean that's a new device to private just fresh out of the box but um so my nose go on to say the s6 edge is a handcuffed edge so don't get that and I would wait for the note 5 edge to see if a samsung returns the edge functionality and actually makes the edge useful again and be Samsung maintains its light skinny this is like the one time that I will ever advocate for waiting for a new phone but this is probably the one case where I would actually consider consider waiting interesting hi Otto do you have a thought here I really have a mess with the no edge much at all that's another phone we don't carry at my specific t-mobile store um so I don't really have any any valuable input on the note edge I can't say me if you get the note for it's still a really really good phone it's only fantastic yes six months old now eight seven months old weather alert there I'm preparing a comparison between the s6 and the note for right now and I'm heavily leaning toward like I mean it's it's tough to find a reason beyond aesthetics that you would that you would pick the note for ya quick the s6 I'm sorry here's something building the studio around me especially especially with the edge and you know he specifically alludes to the edge functionality which is not there on the s6 you know the really the only thing that the s6 edge is good for is you know this context of the glowing for a different color swiping to quickly access a contact but the one thing that made the edge awesome in my in my view and I know Michael absolutely disagrees with this categorically was the fact that the edge was so useful on you know in terms of getting the f you know the app launcher is over on the sign then it depends on what you mean by youthful I think I mean I don't know I was just about to explain that if you look kind of finish Kenneth enough but you know having the you know the viewfinder for the camera the controls up on the top it's stuff like that that was absol as opposed to this gimmicky contacts up what they're doing that they're doing these days and so if Samsung can get back to that it's just it's like they had this really great concept of the edge and then they just completely look like all right a very very quick story um when my son was learning how to ride right up like the first time he wrote a bike without training wheels i was running along behind him I let go of the bike and he started going he got about 10 feet before I panicked and grabbed him and said oh my god you're gonna fall and I realized wait he's not going to fall and so I let him ride his bike I wish Samsung had just let the darn kid riding bike I don't know why they had to handcuff this functionality you know it's funny I have not figured out a way to activate the edge screen and the s6 edge yet like it's been like five days and I have I have all the features turned out but I can't do that like thumb action that likes the in from the side and back out or out for the to the side back in like nothing I do will activate the stupid edge screen so i will say that i actually i agree with you Adam but on the s6 edge it's nice just just the look is so much nicer everyone who told me this while I was holding the regular Essex for like a week was right this is a gorgeous gorgeous device I almost worth the extra hundo just for the aesthetics of the girl it's almost actually it's almost worth the extra hundo just to be able to do that little swiping like to swipe in the slidable menus on android the open the what menus on android like a sliding menus on android like oh yeah yeah yeah you had to pull them from the side yeah it feels so cool on the on the s6 edge yeah it's but no spoilers on that non our final conclusion toyota you were right though so anyway my vote was to wait what are you guys thinking i don't i don't see the you know it's such a long time to wait it's not even the summer like we just got into the spring it's gonna be fall late fall by the time this thing is wide availability this note 5 whatever it's going to be and i bet that they're not going to be able to pack in much better hardware than they're doing right now I bet they're gonna tweak some aesthetics probably put in a screen with 800 pixels every inch that you just don't need and you know i think the note 4 is such a good device that it's if if you really want it whether if you want the note 4 or the edge variant um you know I think you should jump on it now okay put it in pixels a reach out and grab you by your eyeballs right I thought I had the note in my hand just now and I got excited about pulling out the s-pen so it could help me with the pocket but I don't have that stuff so it's fine it's fine I'll live with the s6 edge because my life is apparently horrible hey what's the next thing um my goodness I picked a lot of long emails I'm gonna power through this one hi Otto get ready to read the next one okay all right this one is going to be from Ian repel dear pocket now first praise for the podcast longtime listener first-time writer save a few Q&A questions I Capri she ate the thorough and intelligent conversation of an industry i find fascinating thanks again but to move on to bread predicament I've deemed it time to move on from my oh so beloved Nexus 5 everybody pay attention because it starts talking my roms and I don't get robbed I slept rom after Rahman to it before feeling unique by using the l dev preview and then calming down like a return from a midlife crisis back to stock five dot 0 but now my baby is growing dated growing alongside a bug-ridden five dot one update experience and I'm shopping from the next ice I'm working on tmobile and I have many little preferences to account for I'm interested in the galaxy s6 but that battery size life terrifies me indeed alongside the fingerprint making backside the m9 has a lovely unibody but a camera reported to be not so good isn't the best situation coming from the Nexus here's what I want bigger better battery a better camera a larger size phablets are fine price is no concern so do I get the shiny s6 edge the sleek m9 or desperately wait for its larger brother to come to the u.s. the soon-to-be LG g4 or even the sony z 4 is the note 4 still viable lead this sheep home thank you for the great content and the aid in my tech choices sorry for the length it's quite the predicament indeed it is in this is a difficult question since we were just talking about 4 i'm just going to jump in with it I think the note 4 is certainly still viable you've got a big battery it's removable it doesn't last as long as its predecessors but it lasts longer than most of the phones you just listed particularly the s6 if cameras are concern the m9 takes good ones if you're not going to scrutinize every every pixel but if you spend a lot of time in the dark you're right it's not the right phone g 4 z4 we don't know anything about nexus 6 doesn't have the better life it should for such a big phone but that's another pretty okay option in my view I'm leaning toward note for nexus 6 what do you guys think Adam in hi Otto well originally I thought Nexus 6 but then he mentions that he's not really a big fan of olive lollipop so right but the five dot one update just dropped that was why I selected this was to make that clear cuz you know that that that's is supposed to smooth out a lot of the performance problems in fact I dota 2 so yeah I mean if you're concerned about battery life then you know the es6 battery life concerns are definitely legitimate can the m9 camera be fixed with software I wonder or is that just a bad sense that's the question everybody's asking and I don't think it's a bad sensor we've talked about it before toshiba makes the Lumia sensors yeah so I mean if that can be fixed with an update then I guess you know the vm 9 would probably be the way to go otherwise yeah i was thinking Nexus 6 you know I guess known for would be okay um but yeah I mean pretty much everything you get these days gonna have lollipops so uh yeah that's that's pretty much where I am and also just so you know you can't and actually go back on the Nexus 5 all the way back to four dot one if you want so yeah but who died altered that yeah that there were some there was a camera update I wanted to say this I did it last week but people keep asking me like are you gonna go rira view the m9 now that the update fixed the camera that update only updated us versions of the m9 gene we were already running on our EMEA device guys we're not going to re-review it with the same software I know it's confusing and it's but I just get asked that a couple times a day and I have to clarify it over a couple of times a day but unless you know cut updated what other than that my only on the thought was Moto X so but then there's also like sesame my battery life yeah one of concerns are too so it's not really bad in get my my my battery got a lot better on the Moto X with the latest software update so I did it yeah I mean it lasts me probably actually three or four hours a day with the with the last update no kidding yeah it's really good back to my Moto X then um I overall though for for his question I'd probably say either the Nexus 6 of the note 4 as well um the nexus 6 didn't have great battery life compared to some other phones but uh especially since he said he has done some robbing he's obviously pretty familiar and comfortable with with modding his phone Joey what I did the piece a while ago or I don't think you did pc uh just tweeted about it i think but he he found a tweak to reduce the the resolution on the screen to only 1080p instead of qhd and he said got him significantly better battery life oh I think how do you how does it tweak adjust the number of pixels on them on an AMOLED panel I don't so it's still obviously all pixel mm still owe pixel they're still gonna be on but that's the cuz the DPI oh I see okay yeah it's it's the output resolution is what Jules is saying basically phone you're still technically getting you know the 2560 by 1600 pixels but it only has to actually create the 1080p resolution and so it's saving it's mostly its timing on the Jeep I'm the chi pu side right yeah yeah yeah man so on Jojo so that gave him significantly better value life so if he's comfortable doing that then maybe sure it's like the downscaling win games when games have to run at reduced resolution on some phones yeah yeah oh that's interesting okay but they're initially stupid reaction but I was just like would i'd still probably say no for overall just because he also wanted a good camera and the nexus 6 doesn't exactly offer that either yeah but above all if if you're if you're hopping all over the place in wait wait for the g4 we got a couple weeks for the g4 wait to see what that's going to bring to the table and it's a sony every week we got six more rumors on the sony z 4 but the latest rumor we have has it may be coming in on the 20th the announcement so we'll see if that's true and if you don't like the z4 just wait you know three or four more weeks and something input on another phone so weird up there you go uh we got to move this along Andrew Burgess is our last piece of mail in the what phone should I get and then we've got one listener mail after that and I'm a high auto can you read that one yeah so Andrew says thank you for the amazing content you put out every week to the point where just where you are one of the few websites and YouTube channels that I check every single day um I'm what you'd call it tough spot regarding my next smartphone purchase and I'll try to be as brief as possible my dream device is probably the next Moto X but my problem is with Android lollipop ever since my ATT note 3 received the five-point update it's been slower than my iphone 4 that I had nearly four years ago exclamation all night ! based on these experiences and your reviews lollipop has indeed become the windows vista of android in my mind I'd be fine with the current Moto X but only if it hasn't gotten updated to the Lalique off yet which does it ships out of the box with it doesn't it uh yeah now it does yeah um see although if Michael or anyone else you know has had positive experiences with the update i'll reconsider i'll be making a final decision within the next two months so time isn't is an urgent urgent incredibly urgent to me i prefer to stick to android because none of the current windows phone offering strike my fancy and i'm not an apple person my question is as follows are there any Kit Kat phones left that I can grab in that time frame or you still have any other recommendations I love to hear your opinions thanks again for your help and have an awesome day so this is I this is great i picked it specifically so that i could say no i don't think i don't think it's a good idea to go for a previous release software just because you liked it better i understand it completely believe me I get it but I also as we said on the last answer you know five dot one is supposed to have fixed a lot of performance issues hi Otto is finding out that on his moto x you're getting what three or four more hours about her life I said yeah it's a lot better yeah and and how's the responsiveness on it I haven't noticed any performance issues it's been pretty good um it's got the standard lollipop issue that I've had with pretty much every phone besides the m9 which is whenever I launch the multitasking it takes a really long time yeah that's about my only my only issue with I like with the latest update to lollipop on the Moto X they definitely need to follow this up with like in 5 2 or 5 25 or whatever they do with you know project tallow or something you know like a good project lard or it's some kind of follow-up to the butter thing because when they announced that everyone rejoiced and everyone's like jelly bean that's awesome it's smooth isn't it this is amazing the days of lag and Android are over and then of course they painted lollipop with all these pretty project lipid yeah jewels and a lollipop with all these pretty pretty colors and material design it and it is beautiful but it's really suffered in the performance so five dot one where we're seeing fix a lot of that stuff so I wouldn't be too apprehensive do you agree doubt or do have a different view I mean the only phones can get these days that have Kit Kat on them are the aforementioned Nexus 5 which like I said you can sideload any OS from 41 up onto it i actually have four dot for running on my Nexus 5 just because I'm not a big fan of lollipop myself um and I you know I've got the one plus one which supposedly has cm12 out which is based on lollipop but I haven't gotten it yet so I'm a little on the fence about that one so but beyond that I mean I don't think there's really anything else out there that's shipping with with KitKat on it so I think there I honestly you just gotta you gotta stick your head down in charge charge forward can you cancel needles and full speed ahead who was that that was somebody that i never knew personally who is one man that has never been in my kitchen yeah exactly alright let me pin right nice thank you this is mr. mail just to wrap us up on the show because we're a little bit over time and this is a big one Joe Levi was kind enough to answer this one for us in absentia so poor little odd for Joe Levi um he's still around but you know he has to be to write in his responses so William Lee writes hi everyone quick question on quick charging why is it that the first half of the battery charges faster than the second half Joel as I write back well that's a very definition of a brief listener mail by the way so all of your listeners pay attention because her point exactly Joe Levi rights that's a great question William just start out let me lay a little background I Drive a Prius yeah yeah yeah well you're busy snickering I'm busy getting 42 miles per gallon Oh super unlike most other cars and my Prius doesn't have a gas tank it's got a bladder I didn't know this by the way the bladder is basically a squishy bag into which the gasoline is pumped it expands and contracts while in use to accommodate the volume of gasoline that it's holding when I fill up with gasoline every three weeks uh-huh the first part feels pretty quickly but the last two gallons take a long time why when the bladder is empty it can take in a lot of gasoline very quickly as it gets full and the bladder is forced to expand by the incoming liquid vapors back up the fill tube causing the nozzle to click off since the tank is only ten point nine gallons stopping at nine gallons means I'm cheating myself out of almost a hundred miles of driving on that Phillip so after the nozzle clicks off I pump the rest slowly by hand until it's got at least ten point five gallons in it those last few gallons take longer to pump than the first eight all right what's all that got to do with batteries although a battery isn't the same as a gas tank the concepts are similar electricity flowing through a circuit behaves very similarly to how a liquid flows through a system as a battery fills resistance increases just like the bladder in my Prius a side effect of this is heat heat increases resistance resistance increases heat and so on if left unchecked a condition called thermal runaway occurs boom to mitigate all this the charging circuit monitors the heat state of charge etc once a certain set of conditions is met it scales back the charge rate limiting amps voltage etc just like i do when i manually fill the last two gallons of my Prius another example just for fun this is a shorter one let's say your battery is a five gallon bucket that you're filling with a fire hose at full blast you might be able to fill half the bucket quickly but if you don't hurry and scale back the pressure on the hose you're going to end up with water spraying all over the place and you might find you've only filled up a small portion of the bucket to fill the rest of the bucket you'll have to fill it slowly maybe even down to a trickle to get that last little bit in to fill it to one hundred percent capacity Joe Levi well done Joe thanks well done Joe thanks good stuff hey guys I'm actually coming up against the heart of stuff here so can ya we gotta go yeah we got a rabbi ok get out of here tell everywhere they can find you on the internet really quickly you can find me on Twitter at dead technology or if you're interested in a technology podcast I got a pimpette sorry Michael yeah a great vibe tech beard calm tek de ard come on we are a bi weekly podcast discusses all things tech and most things geek hosted by yours truly so thank you very much both for having me on I doubt thank you for being here yeah I hate to split seconds before the outro music which I love so much but I really got a book it's not a problem man thank you for being with us thank you for taking over when I disappeared against my will and we will see you very soon absolutely thanks everybody for listening you're awesome later brother well hi Otto stick around for two seconds so we can answer the most upvoted questions in the queue a I had to like chop them down because a lot of them were talking about flickering video green screens audio explosions and a lot of other hangouts problems that that we had no control over so sorry everyone thanks for sticking with us etc what are your thoughts on a six point eight inch fhd display on a phone asks Luke but hmm I want none of that cheese yeah no no in almost seven inch fhd display whoa is that the what is that the p p8 max or something the huawei thing because they were talking about isn't isn't it it's not with somebody else why are we being asked about this because you didn't talk about that in the hands-on because i only got hands-on with the p8 itself 6.8 if HD display wow if my assumption is right yes it is in fact Huawei p8 5 all right so there's a 5.2 inch full HD screen on the p8 but then the p8 max with a six point eight inch fhd display indeed yeah that's insane it's and I see that Huawei this is my first time looking at their dot view case for this things interesting choice uh I really really get frustrated when people just straight-up rip off stuff and that is I don't know that list it's kind of nice to just see that kind of it like to other phones because it's the Dove you and the mi is so cool it is cool and that's why it's like I don't know it's a long time it's always a long conversation when you get into like did they copy this other company conversation and it's but that's blatant than it sucks I think anyway whatever did you see the new Star Wars trailer asks matthew Miller it's not mobile tech but I still want to know it's a good question i meant to watch it before the show i have not seen it yet what about you hired i haven't see you neither all right it's gonna be badass from what I understand all Benna Jonas come out we'll talk about the Microsoft and signage and partnership when we have more time and Jonathan wats same deal and Jonathan wats we're gonna close out the show with your comment which really kept us going that's okay Michael we're all in this together that made me feel better I don't know which particular difficulty I was bitching about when you posted that but thank you Jonathan that made me feel good motto now we're in a segment called weekend reading which I would have forgotten about if Jules didn't put the drops right on top of my head there thanks buddy appreciate it this is a one minute segment where I tell you about something cool in the heady days of the dawn of radio the word wireless meant a very different thing indeed this week in fact just the other night marks the hundred and third anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic where wireless telegraphy played a crucial role historian parks Stephenson or Steffensen I've been reading them for a long time I don't know his last name has amassed a massive information Titanic in a particular Marconi installation at his website Marconi graph comm tragic circumstances aside the complexity of the century old equipment is a helpful reminder of the sophisticated technology we carry in our own pockets today go check it out he's gonna it's a great article and it's just ridiculous how look at the thing and the expert the excerpt on the site is like odds the vertical lead in its corresponding wire in the horizontal flat top was connected by means of a mcintyre connector with two 20-foot spreaders and towered hemp rope ratline keeping it stable I don't know how five percent of that entire system work and it's over a century old and it should should you know remind you that the stuff we talked about is very sophisticated stuff so don't throw your phone if you're mad at who you're talking to mmm it it's it's a very complex piece of equipment mine just buzzed me everything it was my fault so that's your weekend reading folks please enjoy that and with that I'm going to say to hi Otto thanks man it is great to have you back on the show as a contributor please come on more often yeah absolutely awesome folks that's going to do it for this episode of the pocket a weekly produced by jules wan giving everyone a glimpse into a little slice of boston life at greenpoint zero spinning sweet tunes as well and asking for funds from time to time at wer s dot org also be sure to find the hosts on the twittersphere adams probably covering curse words with punctuation to protect the children and also probably pimping his own podcast once again te kb e ard at dead technology dead technology hi Otto is fruitlessly trying to explain to computers worldwide that hi Otto should not be autocorrected to Hyatt and when he succeeds is 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