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so everyone was just like they just had a lot of fun hanging out with me and her because of that now we're live we're live everybody no country for old but what it's it's got the notification I don't know I have no idea I love I love it when I love it when the live like turns on and we're in the middle of like a quick thought okay it's episode 342 of the weekly front pocket our next date developers recorded on Friday January 25th 2019 we're back as you can see in the virtual chat room not able to feel our respective auras in the same Airbnb now Brandon you weren't there it was a smelly one at first yeah but you know what we are still able to feel our respective remote tech or I guess and also we got so many air fresheners no need for those work yeah they did not work as Joel says here we are a family but we're always ready to talk about more mobile tech I'm Josh Megara what's going on everybody and I still got with me from gadget match I someone who likes her hot chocolate with bourbon that is true then defining me by that instance so what something we thought yeah Jose Jose because I posted an Instagram photo of us at that lantern festival where I had the hot coffee and hot chocolate Java and the caption was the cup had hot chocolate babies well it sees it's it's Issa said i was i called you by your history meadow it's ISA Rodriguez I made a venez back in Honduras forecasting luncheon as it were no no are you ok t you chew your tea something's wrong with your teeth I do some weird things with my tea ever since you taught me there we go there there ok that's a whole different podcast and over on the east coast is our pal Brandon minimun we haven't seen you a little in a little while associate post CES yeah well I'm glad we got the chance to hang out today yeah it's good to see you again alright so we're all back in our hangouts live it's not one of our stories but I do want to say that there's nothing that we can really say about changes to the podcast or anything like that but some of you out there might know and you might be mentioning in the live chat that hangouts is going to die soon like that and also just came out like a day or two ago hang out yeah but but it's gonna die at Microsoft time meaning it's gonna take like seven months for it to die exactly it's gonna be I think they said by October yeah it's a painful slow thousand cut triad or as I would say the time it takes from a product from Microsoft to be announced and then for it to be launched true very true when Google decides to kill another product because they've done it so many times where they cut off millions of people from using a surface do you think they have like a dial that they flipped off and it just they have a dial at 10000 notches on any one person that's using and Google kills off so many like useful products like you remember the reader the RSS feed thing yeah that's a good one but you know what Google News is not that bad in its place but an RSS reader is pretty dope I remember we all used to use that back in the day feedly I don't remember some other ones but anyway we're we're digressing already we haven't even gotten to the stories yet all right so this week we have quite a lot to talk about and also there's a lot there's a lot of news that's coming out some leaks everything leading up to Mobile World Congress just after the Consumer Electronics Show of 2019 we have Mobile World Congress 2019 so there's a lot happening right now and the leaks are just rolling out right now we have a story coming out of Italy saying that the Galaxy S 10 II as it is called may actually go under 800 euros while a 5g enabled s 10 plus could hit 1600 euros now the collective gasp from everybody yes must breathe the I'm already breathing I reported on this yesterday and I was like no like forget it well this comes out of Italian publication tutto Android who claims to have sources stating that there's going to be an entry-level Galaxy S 10 which to me is kind of the news here like the prices and all that stuff I don't know if I G should cost that much but the fact that there might be an entry level of a flagship phones being as empty level are entry level phones that they now look I mean in Asia it's always been a thing because there's really that market mm-hm who needs that segment right it's the only thing they can afford it's it's not the richest market but now it seems like everyone's going like flagship a cheaper flagship yeah well I'm a you are like you said you reported on this yesterday on the daily so what were your thoughts on this no it's just think about it like right now I'm I wish that would what's happening right now with iPhones would have happened with the 10 so that we wouldn't have had like the whole last year of crazy price tags mom but I feel that the iPhone is just proof of concept like right now there have been deals on iPads MacBooks and iPhones like crazy for the past like week or so and so it's that's just gonna be a trend going forward people are not crazy enough to pay $1600 for phone and you've got the oneplus sixty McLaren which costs 700 bucks like you know a limited edition phone like seriously why would you pay so much for a galaxy like what does that galaxy do that's worth $1,600 well that's the question like Brendan do you think 5g is meant to be this expensive no well it's 1,600 euro which is $1,800 and over my life I've spent the equivalent of a house on phones and technology but 1800 I can't get there it's just it's too far off I mean even like I mean what-what would justify such a price I can't even imagine $1,800 is the price of like two laptops and like two great laptops two great dollars is like three round-trip tickets oh my god you can see where our perspective how long do I you know I don't I just don't think it'll happen I just don't and and even if it does like they'll probably launch it at that price and then discounted month later because nobody bought the damn thing yeah exactly Jules has a good point here as well why not just get on to 5g in the sort of mediocre fashion first I kind of like ease it in and if there's an expansion to three-year payment plans they even justify this kind of cause could you imagine paying this for thirty six whole months no you'd have to pay like $65 for that thing a month still doesn't even what three years right yeah yeah no it would three years it'd be like close to fifty okay but it just it doesn't make any common sense like why would you like think about it what is the I get that 5g is gonna be great but it's gonna take years for that so what's gonna happen in the interim like it's not they're not gonna be able to launch 5g right now like even if you bought the damn phone where are you gonna use it it's gonna be an LTE phone for the longest time yeah in our chat Rick Bearcat it is the manufacturers trying to desensitize us over the years well I mean that now that we're desensitized that's the reason why we're starting to get all of these different phones that are coming out in the same exact range you have the s10 Plus which potentially might have 12 gigabytes of RAM and a whole terabyte of storage and then you have the the lower end models which are gonna be called the entry levels but still have six gigabytes of RAM and 128 gigabytes of storage specs that are even eclipsing the pixel 3xl so you still have these specifications that are gonna be called entry level when in reality they're gonna be at least $800 also these very expensive phones are the halo devices that get people to say I'm not gonna get that one but I'll get the mid-range or the low-end and it kind of has the flavor of the higher-end one that is a very good point Brendon why are you actually make this point in the previous podcast it's like what is the purpose of these flexible phones like nothing more than a publicity stunt they'll nobody cared about flex buy before we saw this thing come out yeah so it's the only reason why people are now yeah people are now wondering what nobody cared and even at CES people were like oh it's a flex pay I guess I have to go and cover that yeah wasn't really a oh look at that it's a flexible forward like we need to check it out it was always a I sort of have to because it's the first one every single publication walked by that Royale booth and they look down and they see this flexible device and it's not oh crap that looks dope it was more like damn it I got yeah I mean we left it last if you remember I'm like Josh if you have time to stop by the Flex Bible and you can record it go for it and if not I totally get it dude don't that's right Josh it's like whatever yeah well speaking of foldable devices we do have one that might be coming out from not only a brand that we're all very familiar with but also from a line that is a throwback in and of itself motorola is purported to be reviving the razer brand with a limited stock foldable phone now this is coming at the heels of Xiaomi even Donovan himself like I know Donovan from from Xiaomi he was showing off the foldable device that Xiaomi apparently has in development but Motorola wants to kind of bring back the Razer brand in their own way so we can talk about both of these kind of at the same time so have you you you guys have obviously seen the Xiaomi concept right yeah oh yeah okay so let's start with that one Xiaomi with this like wing design and the videos over on Jules's feed right now I think this I think everyone agrees this is the way it should work I think this is dope like the flex pay in general is a weird fold upon yourself type thing that feels really weird in the pocket at least this can have some semblance of symmetry and if there's anybody I mean I I like I like Xiaomi phones generally so I I'm actually really excited to see this thing in the flesh I don't know what you thought he said I it's lucky yes I agree with you when you say that this looks like a better execution but the thing is it's it seems like it's the same material as the flex body I don't like that I'm very particular without my phones feel and if that's the only way exactly yeah glass don't bend only well thank not even with me mm-hmm well I guess that at this point I'm really just not into the whole idea unless they can figure out how to make it at least feel a little bit more premium I just I just I can't I lose myself this is one of those devices were the thing it does is the premium that's the thing though not going for it not my thing how about you guys go for Grandma yeah I was gonna say these foldable phones are so funny because people don't understand why and how you're going to use it but to me it's so obvious a foldable phone is two devices in one when you want it to be pocket friendly and one hand usability and use it as a phone you have the phone but when you want to show grandma a picture or you want to read an article like a book or you want to you know browse a web page like you have a full tablet it's just the ultimate and versatility two devices in one I could see so many times when it might be helpful the Xiaomi demo there the Xiaomi examples a little bit weird because you know it's gonna be it's gonna be so thick a lot of these are gonna be so thick but I can imagine the future when they're not thick it's the ultimate two-in-one that will it'll be amazing you want to know how often I see grandma never because like one of those things like I feel as my opinion is it's a solution in search of a problem I like the Xiaomi approach because it makes the product look like a regular phone when you flip it from the back completely yes like that's one of the main reasons why like if you're still gonna fold the thing so does it if you flex it in half a large tablet flexed in half we'll make this like really wide smartphone whereas if it's two bends on each side and you can have a large tablet and then have like a really slim smartphone in my opinion mm-hm yeah that's why technically the real infinity screen you think about it it looks like the sideways in a way the thing is like I I already liked what was being shown in that video because the the flick spy had one very big problem it didn't know what to do with the Android interface as you folded it this one it's more obvious he's holding it in a portrait orientation Lin bin is he's holding it in a portrait orientation then turns it over it goes landscape folded it becomes portrait again it's obvious what Android should do meanwhile the flick spies trying to segment its big screen into three different sections that way like notifications are in the middle if you fold it and then on the back you could use it as a selfie cam stuff like that so like it's it's it's fairly more obvious with this Xiaomi concept what Android should do and I think it's I think it's great a foldable screen will mean okay Vicky Mehta foldable screen will be a fingerprint fest oh yeah the problem is it's made of plastic so you know you you know the micro scratches on that thing are gonna be like really epic after a bit mm-hmm oh there won't there won't be any phone cases that's true yeah yeah well so show me does a really great job especially with like their me UI and what not to like so to get the opinions of the fans and of the people they're actually asking for ideas on names and names like the me dual flex or the me mix flex have been coming out and the may vaporware yeah let me buy the vape the meet me meet me port where if I wanted to have a case easier for the flexible device you could just get like a ziploc bag and stick it in there I would also dress a dress another potential problem with foldable devices and that's waterproof think about it once upon a time what device was that it was an Apple device that when they showcase they pulled out of that Brown [Laughter] for me I'll be honest with you I don't really like I feel that that's the better concept that from Xiaomi but I I think that the only phone that I've been I'd be willing to use that's fled that would be flexible as that razor so let's talk about that yeah that would be just I don't know man anything like that would be just bragging rights I think or like that's the one moment where I'm really gonna geek out be like I could give two craps of this thing is useful or not it just looks really cool that looks really cool I mean I had a v3 I would love to carry that thing I'm looking at the concept patent right now it's affair it's like the most portraitist of portrait orientation screen here's the thing the razor phone was my dream phone which I never got oh you never got one no I wanted one I was begging my dad I'd she wouldn't get me one but the phone was crazy expensive back in the day of you thinking that then it wasn't like oh it's powerful phone back then there was the be at 635 which had expandable storage and stuff like that so is it was really it was a really hard sell because it was an underpowered phone with a crappy camera back in the day more importantly heimer there was an orange one and there was a pink one Oh God the wrong people we like to that slate black and no oh yeah and then we made the slate black was great and then they came up with that the B third the v3 I have you guys remember that one had expandable storage and it came out of this like really crazy purple that was really nice oh those were the glory motorola days the problem is just like back in the day Jules is pointing out right now just like back in the day and now that thing back then was crazy expensive right now the rumours are fifteen hundred dollars which which I'm never getting my Reiser it better have twelve gigabytes of RAM and one terabyte of storage I'm telling you right now that camera would have to be crazy insane I won't for me to care about it that's that's the problem that's where I'm like god I'm so glad I'm phone review right now multiple devices are just gonna have that premium because of the fact that we fold which is gonna be crazy like and it's interesting because we have all of these different trends that are sort of appearing at the beginning of this year and here's a new one coming out of China from two particular companies we're talking about first Amazo zero what is happening remember when I asked you when this is a weird phrase by the way perfection cannot have openings no I was telling you this morning that sounded weirdly sexual I think it's because like it's translated from whatever the Chinese phrase was but I actually was looking at their live stream when they launched this and I was like I remember showing you and I was like what is going on they said they're launching a phone but everything's a Chinese I don't understand but it was is there some weird Jolla strand in China because we're seeing two phones in in a week coming out from China they'll be the greatest thing if this was a whole lot less phone and it still was an IP sort of I feel like this would be an important trend oh wait that's a throne before you fully transition to that we didn't hear what Brandon things about that razor oh I'm sorry oh yeah oh I love the the flip phone form factor and there hasn't been a good one well you have that Samsung flip phone don't you are the galaxy folder yeah oh it's garbage I mean it's got like last generation software and hardware and it's it's basically useless I want to try wait is that the one they gave to Jackie Chan do you guys remember that story wait is that what is the folder that expensive yeah the super expensive all right that's cool I want to try that one I'll send it to you Joshua just remind me that's a great yeah I have a phone that Jackie Chan has but what I like it what I like about the razor is apparently it has the external display as well so you can still get at leas notifications and then you can you know open it and use it for as a phone I just the the reason why I don't agree that foldable smartphone should be more expensive as if you think about it appeal that technology exists has existed for a while like these screens have been able to flex for a while so why is it that just because you're now giving me a display with plastic because you want to flex it and it's cut in half and you've got the battery separate well are you gonna charge me more for that it's not like the product hasn't been able to flex for a while that's that like I said it's it's just because it's a feature like something can bend you you spend more on it yeah true I recognize that my iPad pro is expensive but you know will it been can you imagine all those youtubers who are going to get these bendable phone did you like will it Bend 60 second video it's not gonna be funny anymore but I I have reaiiy have one question about this and this has been so if they come up with the razor phone I'm sure that they legally own that name but this has been like in my head confusing through razor especially now that there's a razor phone I know the one letter off but like it's what happens old arrays yeah and the razor name the the razor of III was like what a decade prior Chen razor no not a decade but it was far away yeah so you know the fact that razor made their you know their brand around gaming and they started with the mice and everything that's you know that's their thing you know they I don't think they made the company back then with the idea of making a phone they just drifted to it because that's where technology's going yeah and do you okay so before we get too far into this let's get back into the meters so let's say well it is literally called a proof of concept so it's completely made of ceramic which is something that we see from like Xiaomi and well meizu has done it quite a few times in the past as well but basically there's you know there's no holes or no ports there's no nothing and so it's wirelessly charged with the snapdragon a 45 dual cameras that wireless charging is 18 watt so you know there's probably not gonna even be any fast charging involved in this one and then also you know just just to add it in we have sort of like dual stories coming in the same topic vivo did the same thing as well with the apex 2019 so they have a fingerprint sensor that's covering the entire display a magnetic port which to me makes a lot more sense like a magnetic port for data and power transfer and then a Snapdragon 855 which potentially will have the 5g so it does have file transfer yes there was one phone again we were talking my vaporware earlier there was one phone that did try that concept and that was the Turing the original Turing they are yep so they said like there are no ports but there's this magnetic connector over on the side that just snaps right on and you can use that for data transfer and for well dr. waterproof the magnetic that toy should be I mean meizu is no stranger to weird things you had that that podcast you did while driving with Jaime and I sleepy at the back you were talking about a phone I was trying not to call out oh yeah you were talking about the phone with a tiny screen on the back that was amazing phone oh that was yeah that was amazing phone so that was a pretty cool one but it never really took off because me series of Chinese like mainly mainly focus on in China in the Chinese market but I mean I have no feelings about this phone except like why why was there a need to create the whole s phone well okay that's nice Brendon real quick like Brendon you pick up a phone it's kind of full screen maybe a hole punch let's say it maybe it has that but it's for the most part all screen no holes no nothing it's literally just you're holding a screen in your hand on eboshit that says them that sounds really fantastic and as long as it doesn't compromise usability like for example you would think that you would need a power button to turn the phone on but no tapped awake is really good or even lift awake if you remember when Android made the change from physical buttons to on-screen buttons it assured in a whole form factor of devices and it was so futuristic because you didn't need that stupid search back and home-button it was all on screen and that was a really big deal so we have the technology now to not need any holes or ports and it's gonna make for a super clean super slick device what do you think I'm a aside from the delays that I'm having in my feed like I hate my internet right now I'll get it fixed but anyways I don't know man it has written a lot of things but then again I I sometimes miss the tactility of buttons so I it's just the way things have to go the last moving parts the better but that's not I don't necessarily feel that it got better over time that's just me I wanted to check on the live chat loose a real quick do-do-do-do-do so like wireless charging though like if it's it it's going to if we're going to dive so deep into wireless charging have you bendin in particular have you have you come to rely upon quick fast or warp or whatever you want to call it charging um for me it's good to have the convenience to be able to top up quickly with a fast charger and Americans but but honestly like every day at night I plug in my phone and when I wake up its full and when I go to bed it's it like twenty thirty percent so charging doesn't matter that much to me except the added convenience if you're going out at night to be able to pop it on the work charger and get like thirty percent really fast someone named Goku okay says in the comment section how to charge my phone out wait no that wasn't the one how do i play my game and charge my phone at the same time on the wireless mantle is bad i guess for me because i'm not so much a fan of wireless charging yet i haven't gotten to the point where it's something that feels natural to me and it annoys me too because i what I charge my phone while on the go a lot I always have power banks you know this user and with a wireless power bank has always been problematic to me because you can be on your phone and I like being on my phone as it like while I'm in a car while I'm on in the mall or whatever if it's a it's if it's a cord it's fine I charge but because I get this all what LS power bank like the contactee is a movie and it's like what yeah cuz if it's on the wireless charging you kind of like tip it just a little bit on the sudden that's not drunk yeah and it's not that like I've been and I've seriously decided to go full wireless charging for the past week or so I can give you so many cases where I wake up in the morning and my iPhone is not charged mom because the phone vibrated it moved from the pad and so it's not charging anything Wow and so it's like the stupid oh my god it's so annoying it's like so like right now I have the iPhone charging here on the side because it didn't charge last night you know just like I feel that the wireless charging doesn't just need the component to be able to charge but also needs to be magnetic in order to ensure that it snaps fully into the product or just get a wireless charging pad that has some grip on it on the time it's also it's also um I've fallen in love with fast charging lately um I've been on the Oppo Lambo which is like zero to 100% in 35 minutes I can literally yeah and I said this is the last podcast right but makeup on and the battery would be full and if something is that fast and reliable I don't there's I have no problem being tied down yeah it's just like Jill said oppa made a Lambo yeah find X yeah the find X which I keep watch I keep con the fine ten it's it's on this it's in the same vein as the the oneplus McLaren which has the same it's a it's the same thing has the warp charger yeah I'm using a clarin right now yeah and I am as well okay so we have one more story before we get to our little break all right Jaime I'm gonna I'm gonna use you to kind of segment into this a little bit what do that right how-how-how into nokia are you right now like that you're enjoying everything nokia is putting out and it looks like Nokia's gonna do more yeah so I did that 7.1 review it's so the funny part is I brought the phone but then obviously checked over and crazy November in stuff like that and so I left it the Sam Sam that our Spanish video and then I'm like are you done with the 7.1 yes sir and so I had not noticed that I had already updated to PI I had not noticed that the interface is literally a pixel it is a Google pixel 3 Excel in absolutely everything but the fact that you can switch out the pixel pill and switch it to buttons if you want and so oh my god like if it weren't and the camera during the day is good camera during the night is terrible it's just wow I I'm really impressed I had no idea these phones were so good I was so surprised how happy you were about that phone I so was it was like so you're at so I actually wrote the script down and I was expecting the camera to actually be worse than it was but I sent the script over to Brandon for him to help me condense it and so it turns out that I would have to take more photos and then when I pull them into the computer I'm like I'm gonna have to change the script this camera is actually not bad like what do I have to bash on this phone I have nothing there's nothing wrong with it mm-hmm like if anything just slow light photography which is expected not because of the it's just I hate it when when entry-level phones are like yeah f 1.8 aperture that's all great but if you're if you're DSP is your it sorry if your image signal processor is terrible it doesn't matter what aperture your cat your camera has the photos will not perform period and you know and so that's the biggest problem with entry-level smartphones that's the reason why the proko phone takes such great photos because it has the isp from the 845 mm that's true and isn't the the poco just went global recently right just yet another thing that uh that they're doing look you didn't see that sweet he had wasn't it was not if it wasn't but anyway they had like you know polka phones going global and to celebrate we're giving away like hundreds of me band threes Oh anyway why can I get a me van three dammit I wanna try good me van three I want to try to be bantering have I literally been the only person in this chat that's been using the me but yeah okay well we'll try to fix that yeah anyway back to Nokia um so apparently Nokia is going to be bringing more mid-range maybe lower low respect smartphones to Cricket Wireless which is to be expected this one in particular is the Nokia 3.1 plus a six inch HD plus displayed not full HD HD Plus display a Snapdragon 439 which I didn't even know existed two gigabytes of RAM and 32 gigabytes of storage it's a $159 I mean Nokia is finding its way back onto its finding its way back stateside and the reports are saying that the reason why this is happening or rather one of the reasons why this might be happening as you guys know kia saw such great reviews and sales of the seven as it's it's it's it's worth the money man and that I mean of nokia nokia started that push if you guys remember what they made the whole partnership with Foxconn hmd with Foxconn like they started initially in China and the entry to mid-level market and I mean you guys remember in that podcast that we were doing with Nicole where she was like this company I sold so many phones like I forget what the number was but the number was just crazy they're selling a ton more phones than most companies out there and so if the entry to mid-level range just what's gonna get Nokia to show as a flagship soon which I'm I hope that's gonna happen I'm all for it man companies that this is just the way to go like even if even if they need these like Vanguard crazy awesome spec phones to help for bragging rights and everything it doesn't really matter the the ones that sell the most are the mid rangers well I'm Jose Jose Jules just said where is he what Danny's in the chat Danny's upset because he never got the Nokia 7.1 you just owe me you just owe me a Super Nintendo classic in a Nintendo classic we could totally but boom thank you it's funny I actually have the SNES classic I gave it to my brother because he was such a fan of Mario RPG and I told them while you're trading while you're day trading play it again he has even opened it yet but Danny shouts out to you men and to everybody in our chat thank you for being in the conversation with us we are actually at the end of our this new segment so I think what I'll do is we'll go ahead and get a little bit of a break and then we'll check in with ie hold on my bad there's one more thing we got to talk about all right who's ready for the craziest phone case of all time I love this oh my god all right this is like this is the jewel set it's like a week they actually need a segment like that in yeah we're scared to sever so this is a crowd this is a crowd-funded product called the spoon fork have they already gotten more than 12 backers because I assume that's all they have in their payroll anyway poor woman happy you came and she's like why am I doing this how much like I'm only getting I'm only getting paid $15 for this it's humiliating I'm a model so it's basically it's it's a phone it's a phone case as an iPhone case the dad basically has in it a freaking spoon and then it's missing a straw yeah so to anybody watching the the feed right now we're gonna get into our break what I want you to we want you to caption that gif that you're seeing right now and we'll say what it is and after the break so let's go ahead and jump into our break rate alright the pocket not weekly is brought to you with support of caseta by Lutron today I want to talk to you about casita by Lutron brought to you by Lutron pioneers and smart home lighting with casita you can schedule your lights to come on at dusk so your family always comes back to a well at home and you can tell Google 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earliest but I've got a childcare issues I was not that big of an issue really no it's okay one of the kids is sick and I have to pick up the other one you know how it is oh yeah we we we don't yeah where are the kids [Laughter] so I wanted to get two things from you because we have a we have a number of stories that are coming out of Mobile World Congress before we look forward to Barcelona Brandon so sure it's your first podcast back we've had two cents well we had two wandering in one since CES how did you feel about the way CES went um you know as usual I kind of wish there was more phone news but that is shifted to Mobile World Congress and individual phone launches but back in the day there were you know more interesting things made to phones not just plastic foldable devices that have you know have no merit Oh US carrier just tone down that I remember in the past you would want to go to the Verizon booth to see what phones they had you know yeah something something to do right yeah but now like US carriers I don't even see them the US carrier booths let's see yeah like at all I mean it was it's such a general tech show at this point that I even did an ad spot without an insurance company that's how general it is I love this es because there was so much beauty which I'm understand isn't something that interests you guys are Josh who left me at the event but you know but that's a good point like a lot of things have shifted from CES like it's it's literally the TV show now though the car show the and you know that's for me I you know just go go to it as a geek and stop looking for phones it's not the show yeah and yeah you can totally move away from that gif of somebody doing any good captions you get a look at that one and while I was branded real quick what was your watching from afar one highlight from CES and then we'll get into some quick MWC talk before you sorry I was gonna um after this comment I'm just gonna drop off um my favorite tech from CES would be 8k which is it's so funny because for case not even established yet and but like the the TV manufacturers need a reason to increase dica monetize their TVs and increased prices and 8k is like the thing I just want to I just want to see a 16 K TV which maybe next year over all right well we'll pay we will pay special attention to whatever phone you say you want to see the most at MWC pick one real quick let's go LG g8 I want to see what gimmick LG has this year to make to make it you know I think we should I think we should start with that one yeah so okay so Jules is already scrolling through the leak that that broke from XD a about the LG G 8 I'm dropping off guys peace on earth yeah see you later Brandon thank you thank you yeah there you go so that yeah the think you branding of the ton she is gonna be staying the same but we really have a leak now of the LG G 8 we might also be the only couple who get that joke when like someone says thank you the other automatically goes nobody at least at least we were in the dinner where somebody actually explained to us would think you meant if you remember I had no idea like I had no idea that the whole idea was think you like you uh you know I would have never thought like I think it got lost at something that's cheeky that made sense in the cultural Korean context because like LG is Korean but like eventually got lost as it like snowball into normal mainstream indeed yeah Jose do me a favor put that link of what you're looking at right now in the chat cuz I don't have that tab up because I want to bring this up the the LGG eight is is is here like this is this is literally the leak and okay I have to give some quick like beginning like be like like like preliminary reactions to this like I have always been a fan of LG they pioneered the white angle on a smartphone not like really like LG is gonna be behind the times once again on their flagship smartphone cuz like yeah this thing's we're just gonna be like what do you mean they always are of course why okay well I mean again yeah that's what I mean like they're gonna be once again behind the times a little bit and like Brandon was saying there's going to be some sort of gimmick on this phone that somehow differentiates it but then they're also gonna be moving five steps back because they have something like a notch when pull punches are supposed to be the 2019 trend so I'm already kind of disappointed to be honest like I need obviously I need to use the phone to see what it will be like but just these leaks already make me a little disappointed because it looks like last year's phone yeah so I don't know any any quick reactions from you like I think that the last LG phone that I really liked was the beef 30 to a certain degree the g6 were phones that I really liked but then you know if you remember devices like the g4 were like really innovative when it came to there camera technology like I remember comparing the g4 to anything it was great and then now you grab the g7 and it looks just like the g4 meaning they kind of need to work on catching up with everybody else like they can't continue playing that game where they continue using smaller microns and do everything based on software I think LG was the first company to to innovate camera technology with software but they like they're like four years late now like they really need to catch up and it's not just a wide angle like the gun I remember I remember there was this time when hua was like yeah no that's the best phone it's the best fun and smells like all right fine so I'll go with my bead 20 of the Vatican 2 you know film everything my vlog from the Vatican and then when I saw the video like it my computer is like what yeah they they doctored the video so much and it used to be it used to be something that looked good at the time until finally manufacturers figured out how to make detailed video yeah that going too crazy on it so LG needs to sort of go back to the drawing board a little bit and if they're going like honestly like the company is that partner up with large camera companies tend to be the ones who make really good footage and photos so LG could do that you know I know Zeiss is taken out freaking like us taken out maybe they could Olympus Panasonic might as well but the other thing too we have another announcement potentially from LG that it's may be less of an LG announcement more of like a sprint announcement because 5g is gonna be coming to an LG phone but it's probably gonna be on the Sprint network so we're getting a larger vapor chamber imagine that the LG vapor this is so weird because in tech right now you want to stay away from the word vapor I mean from someone who does a lot of lifestyle tech this is just like what is a vapor why would you want to keep it cool I mean right now hangouts has my computer about to take off I completely get it it's just I why are we calling vapor changers chambers a feature is the thing you know well okay so here Jules has to this quote year algae found in a survey of 1,000 US and Korean correspond or respondents rather 74% have expressed a desire for 5g surface I think that everyone wants 5g but no one quite understands what it is they just want faster that's what you mean so yes Sprint has announced its first in the country carry carrier agreements to have the LG 5g phone this may be it mm-hmm so who knows the fate of the vapor chamber the vapor chamber because it's gonna get finally that we have this amazing feature yeah it's a cooling system you won't be able to see like I'm like whatever like like if there's one thing LG does not get as marketing I I have proven that like thank you like using somebody in a subway to the feature off Jordan which was it you know Joseph Gordon like he was let's have somebody play music in the subway and that's gonna be our ad campaign like yeah sure I mean it already has me sorry about the LG whatever thing whatever you you know and so now let's talk about a vapor chamber my god Jules I have no idea that I didn't know I'll be plaza to something with yrg well look at that up later but yeah you didn't see those advertisements on Joseph gordon-levitt would use the V 30 or the B 30 30 he would use the V 30 in a subway it mean the one thing that that commercial did right was on the very bottom corner it said hold this entire commercial filmed on the LGV 30 that was that was a good thing but then it was just a silly commercial of people playing instruments with with like how many snap-on's and like special lenses and probably product and whatever because my god you take that be 30 and low light and that's trash yeah it was bad and then there's something like low light when it comes to recording on a smartphone is always gonna be like subpar but that was something else you're looking it up right now hey I just scan through it it's not the best ad if it it has 23,000 views well that's on YouTube this was this was actually a TV spot Oh but anyway LG probably going to be taking quite a bit of the news beat when it comes to Mobile World Congress but that's not to overshadow the many different companies that are gonna be coming up at Mobile World Congress after all Sony uses MWC as one of its mainstays for announcing the next xperia smartphone now what we have here's last year yeah not years before oddly it's just Sony the year before they use CES for some weird reason yeah they did yeah but they always have the same it's always the same thing like kind of peeking behind the veil a little bit as being tech journalists or tech tech creators and whatnot they never have an actual press conference in a place their press conference is always at their booth yeah so which i think is so funny we just sort of pile in which in Berlin is the worst have you ever tried to get into those press conferences in Berlin like you can't even walk in so the other day their PR was like are you gonna join us for the Berlin press conference I'm like are you will you be able to walk in along with not even gonna waste my time you guys got a free recall join but not I'm not gonna go crazy in there forget it you know I don't think I've ever been in a pre briefing for Sony like I just don't know who they do it with you know I have oh yeah but it's something new it's because they change their PR agency and so now they're like oh we're doing pre routes I'm like Oh finally oh alright well what we have potentially at MWC is going to be the sony xperia xz4 okay according to just benchmarking now this is this is not a surprise because experience tend to have the highest possible specifications and like I say on multiple occasions Sony is the only company that takes something like the newest Snapdragon processor and says turn everything on nothing turn everything on we're going to have they were the first ones with the super slow-mo recording they first ones with 3ds and those are all processors those are all processor level activities and they're the only company that tends to turn everything on so I call Sony experience like the proof of concept and of the year but yeah apparently this one uh leaks and rumors will state that it will probably have a really tall display that will take over a lot of the front of the phone so maybe we're not going to get the huge bezels anymore like so I'm just tend to have oh there might be the triple camera setup obviously killer specifications with a Snapdragon 820 five six and eight gigabytes of RAM 256 gigabytes of on-board storage invites have been going out for a February 25th events I'm guessing hi may you did get one for Pocket now right yep okay and yeah clearly it's going to be a big part of Mobile World Congress so how do you do you mess with xperia phones are very often I did features you know me and I like the cutesy stuff so the last phone they exist was it X III or éxito I can't remember I did um 3d or a feature on 3b 3d scanning face scary face candy I mean it was fun it's just that it's not as easy as they purport it to be like literally it was an afternoon of me and chai just trying to get one scan right and you know it look it looked weird and either look weird or really really cool so okay fair enough what was the less experienced out weird for you do you remember are the eggs e3 last week does this week yeah last no dude I mean I had it since October I just you know we're all in that boat like I'm finally over at GV I'm finally doing the one plus 60 and the one plus seven is like weeks out apparently like like people are just sort of speculating that's gonna be very soon anyway so we have the sony xperia the then we did talk about xiaomi a little bit earlier and yes they are doing media briefings at MWC or prior to it so obviously gotta get in contact with whoever you know that me mix three is in is in my hands at least I have me mix three that I'm having fun with right now yeah he's been he's been but he call that he's been flipping the screen at everyone like like literally at everyone he wouldn't a sound effect that like so every time he flips it it sounds like some swords are being drawn and he's been flipping at that people's faces he slipped that in my face of his mom stay funny the first like five times yeah like a million anything when somebody's mugging you alright oh yeah exactly make it make it make it gunshots I don't know if they have in any way better Nick's three which is gonna be I don't remember that you Parker now as a unit right hmm the park cannot have a unit of the mimics three you have it but this was no this was this was this is a JV unit technically there were supposed to give you are you never remember I couldn't go to that Shanghai trip oh well they only gave me one so I don't know what happened there but in any case like okay so potentially I'll do a dual review but anyway the mimics thirty potentially over at MWC there might be a 5g version of this bad boy and I have to say I'm glad that there are certain there are certain phones that you are glad you don't review right away this is one of them because that did not happen until two weeks ago the global ROM finally went out and me you I localized for stateside it's actually really nice what's the what are the changes aside from the sound effect because that sound effect like the whole you need they know we've had from the other I didn't I don't like me why I got it's it's really smooth like I can see why people may not like it but I have to say it's it's really smooth it's it's looking quite nice and honestly like they're certain I'm not gonna say it's on the level of an oxygen OS but I get that sort of feeling of smoothness from it and and I know it's I don't like it visually it's too cartoony for me but then again I can see that my my last my last the chamois phone was the me mixed to us mmm which wasn't the worst like that was a pretty good that's pretty great phone also and again like we were saying before Xiaomi one of the only phone manufacturers that actively use a ceramic so you have ceramic right here but anyway no rhythm this neumann in the next week makes this this particular mimics is probably the first mimics that I'm actually interested in because I've always had a problem with the camera being at the bottom oh yeah we have we've had before like flip the phone around I'm like right there's one problem with this though when when it's when it's open like that I can't clip the lens up here it just won't fit so no more wide-angle front for me yes but I mean it's a small price to pay for that for for this you are what you're part of the 0.1% who use the we use clip on line oh yeah alright so going from xiaomi to yet another company that you know these companies are ones that we didn't really see too often at MWC would they would all they what they would be they would have a presence at the show but they wouldn't have like a booth yeah yet another one oppa oppa was going to be it's not even up MWC true but they're gonna be there yeah I'm sure they're gonna want to showcase it on the floor well they're they're teasing something zoom really do you remember that periscope camera a module but they showed off two years ago yeah so remember you were talking about Microsoft slow death this is and and how they they actually release stuff like this was what two years in the making I remember asking Opel everything they launched like what happened to your 10 times zoom though but I don't I don't blame them like the technology if you think about it we we barely get to see motorized selfie cameras on phones up until last year and you know I guess they needed to prove that they could mass-produce the that motorized system no so I I don't blame him like nobody it's not like if anybody caught up and did it first in them I see I feel that it's a it's a cool idea I would rather use the same lens with the same aperture and just zoom in and out you know use the mechanical portion of it then the other way around but we'll see mm-hmm yeah I mean it kind of makes sense that a ten times optical zoom would be called the find oh good my mind yeah okay so Opel might already be using a smart phone with this new technology but their car no show off a they're potentially gonna show off a working prototype with later availability at MWC I feel like so that that was at MWC two years ago or was that MWC three years ago that was a I remember cuz it was the time like their booth was like - like a block away from the Nokia booth and it's when Nokia did that official launch of the retro phones I remember yeah this was my first-ever MWC I mean I wasn't there but the first MWC I covered and there was a tiny um prototype like there was a there were buildings and stuff tiny little building France he tested the zoom on yeah they showed off a lot of stuff like I was there for a bit I actually went twice to their booth but the thing about it is the phone was really thick like the device literally reminded me of the razor phone so you know Oppo like Oppo you know they don't do phones that thick so obviously I think that they've been refining ever since okay all right so one of our last stories for us that another big hitter I mean we're gonna see something come out of hallways camp and lord knows they have had a crazy year so maybe they're gonna pull out all the stops for MWC I remember oh no always remember the p10 launch that was the crazy launch they brought out a that was when influencers were just becoming a thing so they brought out so many Instagram /youtube people who nothing to do with tech had they talked about matcha for so long the Pantone color in such yeah this was also my first coverage I remember mm-hmm um sitting at HQ watching this and I'm like what is going on says remember this was my first major tech coverage and I'm just like what are they talking about the color green for so long like what is a p10 what is it they had they did they literally spent the entire press conference we're trying to convince us that green is a good color you know like I really I remember that PETA and I missed that fun I was such a and I just love that experience of like being like damn like we didn't go to the press conference and it was out of choice like because the previous two always press conferences can get in there and then we learned that they were giving out the Huawei watch too and the p10 at the event that I'm like damn it and so I walk into their booth and they were like yeah we realize you didn't join but we've got your products feared oh my god that's so nice that by the way a tiny anecdote I'm not gonna go into any details that p10 launch was when I met Lexy Panterra so sexy and well I'm gonna let our audience Google you're welcome yeah she's dope she was really friendly too and I think you have that's the me book 13 in your hands isn't this is a review that's coming out next week um rather interesting mm-hmm but ya know I throw such a good computer it's like can you believe can you believe that Sam's been editing everything in Spanish like I gave him like I gave him my old MacBook Pro and then the make buckets Pro he's not using an e GPU and that thing still flies man like like he's like no I don't need that i I probably will leave it like it's like yeah it's a seven minute render versus for like I won't die in those three but it's it's fine you know mmm yeah the chroma key full everything yeah the the maple gex Pro a great for for editing I'm super happy with it you know that's for this is this and that may book their team my foray into actual computing so it's great to be able to branch out a little bit anyway we totally got off track here Huawei app it potentially will come to MWC with their own foldable device apparently so I'm not surprised lollie has everything he's just gonna be like I'm gonna do that to ya a 5g foldable smartphone will make its debut he said that while on stage announcing always belong 5000 chipset yeah and you know what like hey we maybe they've been working so hard to make their devices as sleek as possible because this one's not gonna be bulky Valda one but yeah 5g enabled with their own chipset which is obviously the alternative to everything that we've heard from Qualcomm and Qualcomm is like the are you ready for 5g it's coming company so I mean it's it's amazing how Huawei seems to be unfazed just churning all these new and different things despite all the stuff that's that they've been going over yeah like there was just an article on was it time about how and well like the significance of that Huawei executive being arrested the and apparently in China they call her a princess because this is literally the daughter of the Huawei owner who's about to succeed the whole like when that person like passes or something no the thing about it is it's just political stuff I yeah it's it's not even worth wasting time on that because it's just it hey once you dig that rabbit hole it's like extremely complicated in there if you think about it I find it funny how they're making so much publicity over the adoption of 5g when we've been using 4G LTE technology from Huawei and ZTE for how many years mmm-hmm so it's like you're making a big deal out of five meeting now you do that years ago I mean what powers our 4G LTE right now take that up and we had we've had a lot of these we've had a lot of these discussions that basically come down to like there have to like that there's a sort of like scapegoating happening yeah so there's a lot of that going on but we're not gonna get into it this is PocketNow not democracy now but you know what I think that actually does it for all of our stories so you know what on that note we're gonna go ahead and call it on this episode of the weekly I'm reading off of our script that might be from last week but still kind of covers everything our theme music is now bloom by Minerva courtesy of Al royalty-free 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