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and we're on the air hopefully we are good morning good afternoon good evening everybody and welcome to it now live episode number 16 and while we were waiting for the show to go on air we were wondering what the hashtag boomsound is and hopefully we'll get some clarification I am Anton denied managing editor of pocketnow.com I'm receiving some notifications on my phones and I am joined today by Jaime Rivera multimedia manager all the way from Honduras hi Jaime Oh everyone how's everything everything is awesome how are you today I have coffee everything should be great after this but you know what you don't have you don't have your name tag on so pleased by the time I get back please do that and I'm also joined by mr. Adam doubt our contributing editor from nowhere else but Chicago Illinois hashtag boomsound hashtag goes down and from what I've heard you've had an awful day we're not going to go into details just on a scale from 0 to 10 how awful was it well I'm guessing that since we lost him it's getting work in the morning for nokia to announce the Asha horrible but it's uh it's nothing good nothing good sleep and gentlemen we will try to keep this as usual at one hour 30 mark I'm not sure we'll manage to but we'll try an hour today's topic is the google i/o event and the nokia lumia 925 launch event from London where I happened to be so without any further ado let me give the float the show floor tu hi mera Bella please hemet choose somebody that is my name tag on it is and it's looking good ok so I'm going to look for somebody that I do not know ok R&R quijano get that hey mr. aim yeah I can hear you just fine man how's everything a pretty good thank you how are you cool man cool man let's we're talking about google i/o we're talking about nokia we're family currently I have a tax history ok so you what are your you have a gs3 what are your impressions on google i/o then what do you think that we got do you like what we got or you like what we don't get him I don't know I have mixed feelings about the aisle I like all the engagement and all the improvement in the little Google ecosystem but as as you say I know point the editorial ram it's like well here Mexico will have all the services I we don't we will we won't have all the services like yeah I'm gonna hmmm wave history futuristic and I like all those stars because it sounds like great through the future but I don't know where I'm going to get it and also what I was expecting 104.3 but yeah well I think is that cool yeah I Oh google conference and is not all about hinder if they have chrome OS and stuff like that and I think they did we'll look you're using that to ping it you know they're being like no this is a developer's conference so we're focusing on developers and I'm like okay wait a second our developers supposed to build applications for specific operating system so if there is no yearly cycle for the operating system do we really consider that we perceived all the tools cuz if you no worries me that everything that we saw you know it's like for example whenever they come out with a new version of iOS they're like okay iOS 7 is out and so they go over all the features and then they're like okay and the new SDK will be available to developers tomorrow so they can start working on their applications but then here we got a lot of improvements we got a new pretty much a new type of SDK for Android but we didn't get a new operating system so I'm like okay so what are you what are they gonna do they're gonna publicize the next version of android in July and then bring the SDK and then bring the software updates a move six months later I don't know I'm kind of confused with this whole mentality I don't know what you think yeah well I think like they're the focus that Google wants to be his like we need more development developers in our Senate like Apple has a very wide range of development developers and I think they are focusing get attract more developers for they to improve as an ecosystem for apps and stuff like that well but I'm i don't know i think like people like us like users we were expecting you know android stuff more andre stuff like new hardware or maybe in any update something like that but what is that's real I'm realizing the in the company like Apple I think I like better the Apple events because they just give away what people want but you know I don't know what to say I'm I'm like yeah it's cool but well I don't know we'll see okay second question if you have the choice between the galaxy s4 since you're you're eventually up for an upgrade galaxy s4 with stock Android or with TouchWiz what would you prefer well yeah it's a pretty different path my mother just got the s4 and I have weekend to play with it and I think like it's pretty cool phone but you know touch with is pretty heavy like yeah I noticed all the lack of loading things and when you changed for Ephram application to widgets you had you do it like you stop for a minute then load everything I don't know I'll feel like a the phone with so much power and he's like laggy because of the UI and i would like to prefer that to talk to you stop android because i had i had a esta tu and i put say hello cyanogen moderate and it was better touch with i like it very much interesting that's nice this might as well any questions to the team anything you'd like to know yes about you know the galaxy s3 s4 with a stock andrew what we haven't seen this before left well not stuck Andre specifically but you know maybe I don't know I found company and I want to put like a new phone and smartphone with android and I said oh let's put cyanogen mod and like I don't have need to build the new UI why we haven't seen like a company like put cyanogen brother I were stuck under his like it's not like bad idea he will attract I don't know I think it will tell us more you go so you think that cyanogenmod should sell their their port or not actually sell it but like the possibility to be in a certain type of home like yet that you beautiful being sold with cyanogenmod I would be ya know because well I'm really interested in both means in the samsung galaxy s4 right with stock hundred I think it's a pretty expensive because well you practically did that this way too much but well you can put another phone like it's good enough like grow and sell it like with sandwich mother or a panel Android ever yeah yeah well anyways that's all the time we've got for for this segment okay you'd like to share your twitter handle or anything oh my google plus account is like my name is playing the screener the Google+ URL this kind of long well Jesus Ted time I'm in the search bar and you can pay me so it's your name let me let me love the camera on you so that's where people can find you go on google+ and search for his name which is right now on your screens well it is a pleasure meeting you thank you for joining us and we will thank you much said that was good to get into hang out Thank you Thank You matter before I hand it over to Adam doubt i have a announcement which is probably a usual announcement for those who are watching us on a weekly basis guys on youtube who are watching this live or guys on pocketnow.com who are watching the embed happening live on the post if you have any questions and trying to monitor comments on YouTube as well as on the pocketnow.com post please write it in all caps question column and your question I'm trying to go through them and I will try to answer them or if i cannot i will try to ask my colleagues and with that i'm gonna hand it over to Chicago Illinois Adam doubt thank you very much sir let's talk to I'm gonna screw this up is it a lot s alaap that's you yeah there you go so what would you want to talk about you you want to talk about nokia google i/o none of the above whoa google i/o okay so what do you think about google i/o were you were you happy were you sad I was like at the time I was really happy and I saw that Google to a lovely service and I saw there was no any envelope paper I wish happy too because ah I got a strong data ah there is a next version of an amusing in five point point it should be simple if Google did it is any simpler version and we've inside okay yeah I think a lot of people were I think a lot of people were anticipating some type of hardware release some type of new version of Android key lime pie or at least a new version of jelly bean and got a lot a whole lot of developer stuff which I mean it's cool i'm nodding enough um yes hi i was waiting for that to sew well yeah um you know I but i think you know when you really take a step back and you look at everything that google did provide to developers they're building the app ecosystem you know they're building it up for everybody it's not just developers is not just users and you know to use a baseball analogy i know that a sacrifice bunt moves a guy in the store a scoring position but nobody cares about the guy who did the sacrifice bunt they want the guy to drive in the run so and in this case google pretty much to the sacrifice bunt and they're leaving up to developers to drive in the run so sorry I'm a baseball guy this is very very steep stone and which was the other guy uh well we had Harry Caray Steve stone most recently we had Len Kasper and Bob Brenly although if you want to go famous throughout history you're probably looking at Jack Brickhouse so he was back here hey yeah really feel for the Chicago Cubs game nice the wiser that's right super station right there baby I'll hijack the topic did yeah yeah we're hijacking so um of the enhancement did you want did you have a chance to watch google i/o yeah I was but it was late I gotta block i watch the work of love and the midnight then I left you think asleep you know you did better than I did because I was actually at my day job while that was going on and it was like it was completely dead at my day job right up until the google i/o started and then it was just call after call after call and I'm like what maps good what up all right guys keep it keep up so I've you know I've pretty much been reading about what was the what was the favorite thing that you saw at Google i/o what are you most excited about if anything Oh yo that Google Cloud majestically love it because I have food Isis one is for samsung galaxy y + 1 is my exes service which I bought me yesterday so I missed notification in my samsung galaxy by always because his disabled sister and she plays along with it and she something this place is purification which I good like it okay alright so was there anything else that you want to talk to us about anything on your mind you know Google whether baseball whatever nothing really jumping okay are you on are you on the twitters of the googles or any any type of social media that you wanted to share with the rest of the class oh I love like we did I DS anyway it be understood yes perfect perfect okay everybody follow go do it now now all right so all right well thanks for joining us that's all the time we have so i am going to toss it back on over to the boss man Tony thank you ping pong ball away so question to Jaime from a youtube commenter honey what do you love a lot about barcelo barcelona how do you say but Philip it's the best team in history man what is there not to love about Barcelona aside from FCB it listen it's the best team in history but aside from the best team in history I love the way they play it said so it's a I consider it a work of art they are Purdue galaxy s4 so i think and i'm ninety-nine point nine percent sure that is the quad-core Snapdragon s4 version yeah that's the s4 and a question for me Tony do you still use the phone bed i'm sorry i cannot hear you see again do i still use the phone bed yes I do thank you and there's your answer okay let me talk to somebody who is new to me nicholas Nicholas Oliver I haven't spoken to you I think ever goodness where are you from I'm from Poland where again Oh full report I'm sick up for a Singapore awesome could you please talk a little bit louder uh yeah yes we can what do you want to talk about nokia lumia 925 google i/o or anything else google i/o Pixley I want it yes sir yeah I really love to go yeah i'm using anxious nice you were saying huh we're yes we can yeah I really often go so yeah and it talked about google i/o i really like nokia so yeah so what what in specific do you want to talk about regarding google i/o yeah I'm real disappointed that we will even involve the Android key lime pie 4.3 know me nexus 4 wheel for this mr. one second hold on why do you think key lime pie will be for the three and maybe not five-point oh no no i don'ti I didn't posted like that ok Maya team will be 54 in Korea and I'm also disappointed that Google didn't announce the android 4.3 because there were not that were saying that google is going to announce 4.3 at Google i/o it was called fear on their website Tony Tony if you think about it I mean android 2.1 was Eclair 2.2 is froyo 2.3 was gingerbread so there is nothing wrong and having android 4.3 be key lime pie they're never going to change the UI signify I agree and it would make a lot of sense but this morning when I was covering news shifts and doing some other stuff for bucket now I read through the headlines and I've heard some rumors that next month or maybe probably at the beginning of July we will see the nexus 4 in white tie us up together with Android for that free which is rumored to bring those Bluetooth enhancements and since it's just a Bluetooth enhancement then I'm guessing it might not be key lime pie yeah my I definitely not yeah so Nicholas back to you bleed yeah oh I wanna have a question oh yes we can just speak a little bit louder oh yeah relax was for right I don't time it doesn't even though he would probably kill for it and as far as I know Adam doesn't have one too but we know the topic so please do ask your question is it worth upgrading from the yahoo answers to the nexus 4 series in where I live the next four is not available yeah it's the failure of but it cause I have easy hundred and fifty dollars before upgrading I'm gonna answer your question very easily going I have this and I don't have the nexus for uh you know the upgrade is not dramatically significant android 4.2 is so awesome that this phone rocks regardless you know you need a better but then the camera on the nexus 4 is not groundbreaking so if i were you i'd stick with this galaxy nexus until the next Nexus arrives in October that is exactly my when I was about to say at this point in time and we are in May 17 it's not worth the upgrade from the old Nexus to the nexus 4 because in approximately four or five months we will have a one year cycle for nexus 4 so if I be you I just be waiting for the next Nexus better if it's the nexus 5 Nexus 4 point something the next Nexus in general Adam do you have any thoughts on this oh sorry I needed uh so yeah I wholeheartedly agree alerted oh yes i did i went i want the college so i know i agree when the nexus 4 first came out I was pretty thoroughly unimpressed with the specification so i would definitely wait for something bigger and better and brighter and you know shinier ok so there's also made by LG that is that was a mean comment I'm cocky you are the only LG devotee that I know that is correct aside from match Tony phone TT as well Nicholas II had three answers if you have any other question oh yeah Oh UFO HTC one like you have an H if you want do you mean this one yeah yeah oh how does that phone feel because where I live it is not available yet I haven't got my hands on it for me for ifc or a free versus that it's good quality is amazing how does it feel well have you ever held an iphone 5 in your hand yes for you I so if you have held an iphone 5 an iPad and iPad Mini or a macbook air or bro it is the exact feeling in addition the HTC one is more tapered towards the edges so it fits very well in your head as far as healing the hand is concerned i'd say the HTC one feels even better in the hand than the iphone 5 but that's just if we only consider the feel in the hand the material how well it fits in your palm how good the grip is and stuff like that I think bigger than the actual move this time say say again please is it me turned on the losses hostess I don't know but I have the galaxy s4 here with me and the difference between between these two is very very little in terms of size by itself but the HTC One is approximately fifteen to twenty percent heavier than the galaxy s4 without making the galaxy s4 feel and consistent so they both feel good in the hand if you like the touch of aluminum then the HTC one is for you if you uh yeah that's Molly yeah thanks that's all then maybe he's model everybody where they can find you on twitter google+ or any other facebook social network of your choice of your preference no google path and my youtube account state your name or your url all my Google+ Google class will cross over so it is like your name that is n ik ola s 80 l.i.v.e are Nicholas Oliver you're awesome Nicholas thank you very much for joining us and hope you find the time to join us next week see ya take care bye thanks that goes back to you Jaime ok you know I'm trying to find people here but I really make up meanwhile meanwhile I have some new questions from YouTube question the question for all the bucket Nell team if you will choose the s4 as your daily driver which version will be better for you the google one the google one or the TouchWiz one you know mmm there's the boot loader on the on the and at the google one is going to be unlocked i would rather get that one and load TouchWiz whenever I want then go for a locked bootloader galaxy s4 that I cannot load stock Android on that would be me Adam I would have to agree with hi May um but I would probably get the unlock bootloader just better to have it and not need it and then put on TouchWiz and call today I mean most of what the s4 is is software enhancements especially centered around the camera and that's what I would be most interested in so I don't know that stock Google would necessarily have those Cameron has enhancements without uploading to Google Plus which we can talk about of course but like the best face and you know the eraser and stuff like that I don't know that stock Android would have all that so that was that's what that's what I would be interesting no I believe not you know I I do feel that a lot of the features are gimmicky on the s4 except for the camera feature so yeah I would definitely get touch with as well just for that as far as I am concerned you know guys once the Google version of the samsung galaxy s4 is out and with AOSP or aokp or whatever version of google rule google release the community will be very hard at work at porting that run to the qualcomm snapdragon 600 versions across the globe so if you get the samsung touchwiz version you will probably be able to Nexus if I it and also return to the touch with version but once you get the google version I'm not sure you'll be able to flash the TouchWiz version I mean so the most likely that rom is dumped already and all you need is a phone with a lot with an unlocked bootloader no trouble yes I that's what I'm thinking that it's a smarter choice but the problem is obviously most people live on the contract section so it's like now you're not going to get that Nexus version of the galaxy s4 um without without a contract so you're kind of lost there anyways quite as well you know it depends on everybody I would go exes Brad for the nexus one it just little touch with one other question before we move on Tony do you think nakia will use the same 41 megapixel camera in the EOS as the 808 or do you think they will use some sort of tech in a more standard sense sensor for example 13 megapixels well I have said this a lot of times I think that for nokia to be able to use such a large sensor which would accommodate 41 megapixels first of all the platform by itself Microsoft Windows Phone has to support such a large camera sensor I think if at the back end the platform will be ready windows phone 8.1 8.5 whatever the version number of blue will be if they will support large camera sensors nokia already has an awesome sensor in the 808 and since last year i think they managed to develop it even further and my dream phone will be the 808 with the 920 having a baby with 41 megapixel camera and optical image stabilization for low-light performance and android and webos LS all right whose turn is it it's mine it's mine since I get what's up let's talk you guys call me yeah man what's up love how's everyone doing today trying to conquer the world here how about you um pretty much the same all right way Vernon conquered it what topic you want to pick them well the oh man there's so many of them goodness um we will go with you know what will go with hangouts because it seems to be a bit of a conundrum right now and I'm feeling you I've actually needed to contact two of my teammates today because I had no idea how to start a public what has been your experience for example tell us well I love how it integrates with my tablet or phone everything seamlessly it when you're not doing video stuff I'm running into a lot of civilian try believe the cameras locked on you Tony Tony I was a debating I was debating whether i should call out mr. Tibor who is from the same country as I am teamwork we have tried to join and talk with you last week we didn't manage to you this week it doesn't work so i would like to kindly please ask you to stop trying to join because you're blocking the entire hang out and it's all already on anarchy as it is and I'm sorry well I was debating that please repeat the question I'm it or send me that no no I was telling you that I think the camera is locked on you the camera is locked on me no it shouldn't be ah well weird say I'm sorry you were telling us about that how's that sorry well the the text function seems to work really well but the video function seems to really be laggy and not really working so well particularly I think this the whole issue were having with the the table were going oh yeah he's Tibor he's probably using the our hangouts yeah I'd say hey listen I like the fact that they won't cross platform for me it was like for example in pocket now we use a google apps so our means of communication are through google services and you know i hated the fact that Google Talk did not work on the iphone that i would pretty much have to load a third party application to get it working and so I like the fact that it's cross-platform i honestly hate the fact that like for example right now we tried to start this hangout and you know i wish that that application would give me the option that if i'm on a phone I don't want video video connections to go through my phone I would like those pakora ties to the computer instead and sadly i can't select that like for example right now i have to mute all the communications because every time every time Tino the Tibor mangoes comes in and out I get a look an alert on the phone and so I feel that it's it's a work in progress it's it's a great progress so far um but I think that it wasn't broken before ah it wasn't really broken before there are certain things that I don't know I i think that they went too far in mixing these two things together and now for example AT&T customers are having the problem that the video the video services don't work and sometimes people don't the whole hangout service doesn't work for them because it's blocked by AT&T because of the video thing because of the video integration are you sure that's why I tend to be blocked it I mean they they block everything I'm pretty sure it's because they sell messaging separately I mean that's my opinion yeah mmm yeah I don't know you you a worrisome I'm in Alabama okay well what Kerry do use on tmobile they on it it was horrible t-mobile is horrible here it's horrible Mitchell well because I have 2g service I've had 2g for two years okay goodness and I mean the the get new galaxy s4 is coming out on tmobile or AT&T neither one of those are gonna work well for me here have a question for you sim how on earth can you live with 2g um I just send a lot of emails so you're keeping it thanks Dylan pretty much know you know that little it not at all and that's why i love um this messaging server so much because the messages are so quick but the whole video portion is so bad discuss important to do you know again my opinion is if they would separate them or allow you to select where you want things to be prioritized to I would prefer it that way because so far I can't select where notifications follow what to do it's a mess so far so far so what's your next topic my way oh my next topic mmm alright google plus the whole picture enhancement service I've been trying to use it but I haven't seen my Google+ update correctly for all the new enhanced features is that actually live right now you're talking to a Google+ hater I don't know I it is working like for example it is working on the website for me it's not working on phones for me yet I don't know uh is it working for you Adam you are in Chicago do you make that to Google+ haters hi my three make that three okay you're doing the German number three that means you really hate it no I I'm doing the European number three which is this and it's not this which is the american number three actually that's that's that's three right there so okay that's as American as it can get this is Europe yeah that's amazing to me because you guys say you use google apps for pretty much everything and now that Google is putting my say everything else right I was I was probably the last bastion of the entire pocketnow team yeah who was driving everybody nuts because I didn't want to give up my microsoft exchange server for Google Apps and everything google so i am still at this moment using microsoft exchange as the only person on the bucket now team who does not use google apps and i think hi matt is probably in between using either gf's orbit exchange depending on his phone is exchanged every now and then that was I got gonna keep doing that because Google is pretty much using Google+ for everything it's like the base of all this or I'll tell you this much they're doing something smart they're making Google+ something useful see for me the problem with g+ is that it was just another service you know it was just another social network and now they're focusing on actually adding value they're making it edit your photos i mean i think that that was like insanely smart I mean he the guy was right Victor's the kazoo through he was right I mean you come back from your vacation you've got a thousand photos and you want to prioritize but then you don't have any time to actually organize your photos in any way so I think that it's extremely smart I'm not sure that the photo enhancements that we saw work good at all but I don't know I'd like to give them a try so for me I feel that it's a smart choice to use it as a photo repository and you know it's cool that I get to select what you know what I ok so i'll tell you what i hate about Google+ making a shrunk list Emmett oh yes hate about Google+ for example and probably this is going to change right now but I hate I hated the hangouts mentality I hated that you know if I have a thousand followers when I least expected I gotta hang out requests with ad island asking me for a hand and I'm like damn I'm recording wife i'm recording pocket now daily I'm like you know I rarely ever talk to most of my Facebook friends so you know I like what I mean it's are about more mobile technologies talk about running or let's talk about coffee or beer or something so for me Google+ is like it's a good middle ground between Twitter and Facebook but until now that they're adding value to it is what I'm gonna start using it in the past I didn't use it at all that's that's me well go go pretty much I mean what they're doing is everyone who has andrew a phone now pretty much has to use Google Plus which no one was using it before so an unexpected it is smart enough I will say though that I am worried that when I want to message Jess my friends like on facebook facebook is pretty much for just personal family stuff yeah so I want to just messaged my family I do have to worry about messaging or people that I don't really know sending messages they need to separate that out somehow exactly that for me that's my problem with google plus it's like I wish I had a choice I believe that there will be a choice now you know but you know so far the problem is it's not there yet so or at least I don't know I haven't turned it on yet so I don't know I'll keep you posted but anyways move any next topic any final topic um Wow follow topic Oh somebody talked to me about the nokia phone i know i'm waiting for Medland I'm waiting for my turn about the Nazi bell but nobody cares about in lumia 925 it's an awesome phone I've been there I thought it I'll tell you I know what's talking about it because it's no different than the 920 it's different because it has a sixth lens haha that's all that's all I could get out of the entire nakia team in London 60 Tony you are telling me that that's come on you know i i'm not selling you Nakia Nakia us telling you I'm just the messenger Yeah Yeah come on say I'm amazing nope you could come out with two phones say that they're different and they're exactly the same as the 920 Sam we have a question for you okay akhiya the the so-called or the rumored Nokia EOS with a 41 megapixel camera combined with the OIS stabilization would that be enough for you to switch to Windows Phone no because I know system what is it in the ecosystem that you miss because nakia made it a huge deal at the London event that Windows Phone has now 145k applications aside from Instagram do you miss anything I like the Google integration all the new things that Google is bringing to the table that no fears trying to work with windows or windows isn't putting the same emphasis on that google is so I like the Google services and also are invested in the Google ecosystem and you're getting offerings on Android which you are sure you would not get on Windows Phone pretty much at least right now and the thing is most of the world I'm sure will probably feel the same which is why windows isn't doing so well and Google is doing so much to stretch that out now with all this new stuff they're adding this is you but you've got the you probably made the most solid point of why Windows Phone doesn't take off I mean honestly it's like the solid the smartest thing i've heard i mean think about it it google microsoft came up you know google comes up with their sir service it was awesome now Microsoft was like okay I'm gonna compete you know instead of saying okay let's make Google a great Microsoft Partner know they were like okay now let's get which was it msms amazon services yep dip work then we get Windows Live then work then we get thing then work let's get everything that we can out there let's get a Google is doing naps let's bring out our own nap mat service the problem is you know I like the fact for example one of the things that I like about Apple is that there they don't try to do everything they focus on doing certain things right and then they partner with other companies that do the other things right so you got google maps on the iphone yeah they screwed up with their new map service and they're coming back but big time being is you know week i could notice it and Larry page's face when he was at the keynote that their relationship with Microsoft is extremely stressed it is extremely stressed and therefore you know but there's no way that Windows Phone is going to take off if they don't figure out a way to embrace Google well yeah I will contradict chief just for one second it depends on really which side of the coin are you looking at because if you ask google that's of course Google standpoint but if you ask microsoft microsoft will tell you that google cut them out because they give they gave no api is for accessing google mail then now there's the cease-and-desist thing for youtube so everything's Tony everybody's got their own story interestingly Apple managed to get a decent YouTube application and there are no problems so what's the problem with Microsoft oh no I think it's gonna be the end of Nokia because of it they made a bad choice when they had the choice between windows or android so do you think do you think Google is a little bit bitter because nokia chose windows phone / Microsoft instead of android / google back in 2011 no because they have samsung so that is another i agree that the solid point but i think if nakia would have went android in 2011 right now and this is my personal opinion they would be breathing down Samsung's neck heavily mm-hmm probably so and I mean I think that competition would have been good for us I'm an Android in general I think I think we've been better and maybe maybe Google was a little upset then maybe because nokia had a nice product but I mean it's just I don't think it matters to them so much cause Google new Pinocchio is the one that's going to lose out on that okay thank you pining back to you if you want to rip it up Sam it's it's a pleasure as always talking to you buddy any final thoughts any questions or anything for rapaho I love you guys do a great job congratulations to all of you and keep we love you too thank you very much and the camera is locked eyes who watch us know where to follow you but those who don't there's your / handle so everybody go follow us employed jr. oh yeah let's go together before I hand it over to Adam here's a question for not necessarily Jaime but I know it sits in his court mm-hmm what features would it take for all of you to switch the Windows Phone and in this case for you to switch the windows phone ah is it about features really or is it about the ecosystem or is it about the experience oh ok so it is a very difficult response it's it windows phone for me just doesn't feel natural in a lot of things um I just don't relate to the operating system it's pretty um but I'm i don't know i don't like the mentality ok so i used to work in a corporate company for 15 years and the mentality and corporations is let's make something that's efficient let's make something that's fast let's make something that is as effective and windows phone is everything that a corporation would be happy with meaning it is extremely fast that is extremely fluid but it is so efficient that it's not really visually appealing it is extremely sluggish when it comes to a lot of the thirty third party applications you know you do get whatsapp fun you do get it but it's extremely slow have you ever tried loading it yeah you do get youtube have you ever tried load youtube video on that service so I'm like yeah it is great I've never seen battery management as good as in Windows Phone so rated r 8 operating system made for a business guy that will never buy it on the other hand I mean have you ever seen somebody you know if you give somebody a BMW and you give them uh give me a Toyota Corolla very efficient car whatever you want you give them the two options and then you tell them that you're going to charge them the same ten thousand dollars for the car what do you think the owners gonna choose the BMW or the corolla so the problem is user mindsets are like okay Samson gives me all this and then I have windows phone which doesn't give me all that for the same money where do you think my money's gonna go even though you will probably never use 75% of those right but people don't think that way come flirt like I would rather get more from my money that's the mentality wrong Adam you're the resident Windows Phone guy you're already on Windows Phone but do you have anything to to comment on this um I think I think the biggest problem you know I actually you know I wrote a piece a week ago or week or so ago about you know things that Windows Phone needs and I talked about you know additional customization give us a couple different keyboards give us additional web browsers and you know once now that I'm back on Windows Phone full-time again the one of the things I'm realizing that Windows Phone just kind of sucks at is anything background and what I'm talking about is messaging I'm talking about skype i'm talking about google talk i'm talking about anything that it which it should be sitting there waiting for something to happen and once it does happen it just doesn't seem to it doesn't seem to let you know I mean I google talk is a horrible experience on the Windows Phone skype isn't much better you know the only thing that really kind of works is facebook chat and that's because it's integrated os-level um so that's billith flow I don't know that it's necessarily slow I'm carrying two phones and all the time i get my notifications first on the iphone and then five minutes later they arrive on Windows you know but I'll flip it back on you yesterday I'm sitting at my desk at work and I'm getting Twitter notifications on my windows phone before Twitter's telling me the website is telling me that i have a new interaction or something so I did you know I think it's just based on your experience but you know your mileage will vary as they say so I mean I don't find it to be particularly slow I they tend to come in right around the same time at least for me maybe it's my Wi-Fi maybe it's whatever but yeah so I mean I get notifications seem to come through pretty quick but just background tests it doesn't seem to handle very well and I should take this opportunity since the ball is in your court Adam please we've got tooth buddy to talk to okay I just want to throw out one other thing you know before we before I pick my person you know our topic of the of the day is Nokia's conference and Google i/os conference the topic of the podcast yesterday was Nokia's conference in Google i/o um did I did everybody forget that blackberry had a thing this week to some apparently yes I just sit here and I'm like I've heard just like laughing yeah heard that lame wait oh god oh ok let's brawl names back in the day when I met you and I were young and Tom my commenters who phones like these that's correct I use one of that too to all my commenters on my blood is blackberry still alive article this is my point I'm just saying anyway so having said that oh I'm gonna go i'm gonna go ahead and talk to mark is it mark saw one yeah how you doing how's it going mark how you doing today good good good so what do you want to talk about with blackberry I'm just kidding so what do you want to talk about today using this out you and Michael Fisher get along don't you guys use the city yeah absolutely um actually look we can continue that the Nokia Microsoft talking and I'll end with google i/o because it really is an interesting situation for them because it's obvious that Nokia is a hundred and ten percent held back by Microsoft by the software you know it's kind of like I like you know these events that they throw it's like you know here's what we got you know they just throw out these phones and it's kind of like let's stay here and wait until Microsoft has something for us yeah you know yeah yeah and I think and you know what I was gonna say just one other thing when people decide whether they're going to buy a samsung gs4 or a Nokia Lumia 920 they're not deciding between samsung and nokia they're deciding between Android and Windows fall so I just want to throw that out there as you were absolutely absolutely and I mean I I have a 8x you know sitting in my drawer here and I i like i love that I love I love the UI I think it's got a lot of things going for it but Microsoft just needs to make a more compelling argument for for windows phone itself I mean for example I feel like if they don't leverage a lot of next week's Xbox event to Windows Phone then I think I mean I think that's one of their last shots essentially is the whole mobile gaming market because that's still relatively untouched and you have some really high quality games for iOS and Android and you know you have the RIA that's releasing a month but still i mean the the mobile gaming market is still completely untapped if an end and anyone can do it microsoft kin okay so i think i think i'll be interesting to see how they you know integrate that whole ecosystem um but yeah I mean I mean people yeah I'm sorry I just have a question and back in I think 2011 or 2012 at mwc i interviewed the marketing manager from microsoft and back at that point i asked him what are a sony playstation style windows phone with the gaming controller would be a solid solution or would be a decent plan for Microsoft to do with the oldie Xbox gaming and integrate everything and back at that point they said that they had no plans to do that like this the Zeus hold on let me Lock by Cameron you mean yes that exactly so imagine that with with Windows Phone and the gaming controls and taking the advantage of the entire Xbox games and the entire suit and they said they wouldn't do it so mark my question for you is do you think that's something like that would have probably saved or or boosted Windows Phone I think so and I mean what if what if they took a step further and instead of you know doing something almost gimmicky like that what if they enabled something like the nvidia project shield where you can stream your xbox like the full quality xbox games to the phone so essentially it's not a question about hardware as it is more software that's a cool idea right i mean i mean online tried to do it and I mean they had they had a rocky start which kind of threw them off but I mean if you have the right infrastructure it can be done so yeah true and you know going back to a point that you made at the beginning that's another solid point about Windows Phone when we were in the HTC 8x event um there was the phone um it was cute and all but Windows Phone 7 Windows Phone 8 was not ready so we could only see the phone and we could only see the employees moving everything around but we couldn't even manipulate the damn thing because windows phone 8 wasn't ready the same thing happened with the Nokia Lumia 920 why was the damn phone late because Windows Phone a wasn't ready so again this is like the tech irony the biggest tech irony of history you have a software expert and you have a hardware expert and the hardware expert which is it is much tougher tougher for you to have a supply chain going to build at a unibody polycarbonate phone then for you to get all your engineers to build an app rating system that's already existed in all you needed to do is enhance it so I can understand why why is it the hardware was ready and the software what that was stupid yeah I I think I think at this point I think Microsoft is almost in the exact same position that Android was at its two years day right I mean up until I mean I mean this is Inc is a great you know piece of proof but up until now android has been essentially playing catch-up with iOS catch up to the market share right so features that essentially it released were all things to either compete or give it like you know small wake up from iOS not you know Android has such a big market share goo can do playful things like you know the new Google+ camera for photo features and things like that they can you know start to gear things more towards consumers in general right yeah right yes i saw this google i/o is more of like fine-tuning the whole experience like we've got all this you know they spent you know several years building up building the bill getting their market share getting everything together and now this year they felt like they could kind of fine to the experience you know it's not so much get stuff out the door now now it's more about making sure that the stuff goes out the door is high quality yeah exactly and i'm now I actually this i/o made me more optimistic about the next version of android and the next you know line of Nexus devices I think what's going to end up happening it we're going to see here is start to see a change where the Nexus devices are going to remain inexpensive devices but they're going to be geared toward developers only and who knows what other partnerships they can get with other OEMs like that it would Samsung for more I guess consumer stock Android experiences Nexus products or what i would call disruptive products here you are net android tablets did not take off they came up with everything they could and then comes the nexus 7 4 205 yes all that needed to happen for one android tablet to take off a nexus product to make it take off the same happen with the nexus one that people don't remember people don't remember what what android phones were before the nexus one and then came that beautiful good phone with the first one gigahertz processor it was fast it was fluted it was beautiful that's you know if you don't remember android phones before that they were horrible they were hard you know i think the thing what they do is disrupt they challenge the system and i love what they're doing I you know the Nexus program needs to continue challenging the system that's what needs to continue happening yeah absolutely and I mean I you know I haven't really spent much time thinking about it but you know all the all the new API is and developer tools they gave these developers it really makes me curious as to what they're what they're doing in terms of the next Android release right I mean they're happy there has to be a means to an end to be means right so it's just you know a lot of the location stuff they're doing a lot of the low battery low power stuff they've been releasing it it's just interesting to see what's what's going to come of it ok I would like to kindly pass everything back to Adam because we shamelessly hijacked his topic no no that's fine actually knows actually yeah any any final thoughts mark we're kind of hitting our ceiling here a little bit so ya know that's what I out let's move it to the next person ok all right well thanks for coming on it looks like you're got your google plus up there is that you're just first name last name on google+ that's the one okay so all right well very good thanks for joining us and love your thoughts and we will toss it on back to Tony thank you very much and thank you Mark for joining us as usual every week and I have a question from YouTube do you think android will lead the smartphone market for the next couple of years I'll gonna answer first I cannot see another company by passing them i mean the closest competitor is Apple's iOS they have at any point three devices may be four out there the iphone 5 the 4s the for the ipad mini the ipad for maybe another ipad so six devices running iOS versus 75,000 328 devices running Android so I cannot see when you got it up hi Maddy do you think the same or do you have any other options it's seventy six thousand three hundred men oh yeah I'm sorry I didn't call glass galaxies at well my Lydia is going for second place was in my mode so don't worry about i'm looking at the test all right um listen um I don't know there is no way that androids going to lose there's just no way it's an open source system people are capable of selling their phones as their own brand they can do whatever they want i mean android they already made a refrigerator out of it that they already made your android-powered toaster Tony yeah no no that's the webos toaster i'm waiting for the anchoring vacuum cleaner and dishwasher android is such a resilient work of art you got google glass and by the way this is somebody that prefers iOS seriously but i believe that there is much more potential in android in the future there's it's already what it is now and it's gonna be twice as big later unless somebody figure something smarter out but i really doubt it i mean i don't hear so here's what I disagree if if if if ever android will lose the top number spot and something should happen it will not be because of a competitor i think if that thing happens android will implode so it's androids it's androids game to lose as what yours absolutely it's only android that can screw up a turret okay that's fair me i would have to agree i would say even more than two years i would say probably at least three to four years projecting out i mean who else is gonna catch up to him I mean it's just not it's just not going to happen especially with you know I mean Samsung and HTC are leading the charge right now but who knows what om might be around the corner just waiting just waiting for to bring in their own offering so yeah it's definitely going to be you know Sam it's definitely gonna be Android until windows phone you know takes them over and dominates the world thank you I'm sorry I almost got that out of the straight face I was this close okay oh alright thank you I'm seeing a lady which is venting not only herself but she is venting her laptop with her own two hands I can't remember the last that but if you can describe shortly the procedure and after that I know you're the biggest nakia fan Madeleine and we'll talk about nakia Lumia 925 yeah well yeah I was actually pretty disappointed not to hearing anything about the US extreme how how hot is it in Denmark now meaning that have it's only 22 degrees Celsius 22 I had five degrees Celsius in London two days ago and I was dressed like this with a t-shirt and and short short bangs and when I landed it was barely almost snowing so it was not what do you think about the Lumia 925 I know you're a huge nakia fan well i think i would get it um but I don't like the design of the back it's what is it sorry hmm is it the choice of materials or is it the design itself the sign itself around him mmm oh so you say that the camera is looking pretty much like the camera on the HTC one with the lens yeah okay but that's a minor thing i think i will choose the 25 / them 900 the 925 oh yeah that's that's that woman I 20 but yeah I like that 928 honestly Michael made a solid point I mean Lumia 920 between the 925 I'd rather go for the 920 why well I don't know that the design is a more unique I i consider Madeline's point to be solid i mean i like that i'm 20 more even if it's heavier you guys have jack hold the 925 it is it is it will give you mixed feelings the first time you get it in your hand it will give you the same feeling when you get yes for this is too cheap it's inconsistent I don't want to use it but when you get a feel for it shipping address at the bottom Tony shipping address at the bar I'll take note when you get a feel for the aluminum which by the way is only on the of the phone then you'll have that strange combination that we are your left foot is in a hot tub and your right foot is it a freezing water it's cold on the sides in the aluminum and it's warm on the back with the woody polycarbonate yeah but Tony you know I came home the other night and I when I went up to my bedroom and I tossed my toss my 920 down on the charging light your was such a beautiful feeling man I haven't had that Philip I haven't had that feeling for like a year and a half now since i since i lost the pre three so not lost i'm actually gives this idea right there the 925 has an additional lens in addition to the five lens on the 920 which gives it more clarity under normal and low light situations boom sound you still have to plug it in boom sound unless you get a wireless charging cover unless you get a stupid hat for it thank you okay we're playing devil's advocate meddling back to you it's your time now actually I have a question to add on there you said it there's my facebook night youtube app for windows though right um there's its hotly contested at this point I mean I can still get youtube videos on my 920 i'm not sure what the exact state of affairs is as far as that's concerned but they are definitely having a little bit of a hissy fit with each other so okay because YouTube is mainly the most important that for me sure sure I use YouTube on a daily basis so I don't know about necessarily on my phone but in principle I use YouTube all the time as does i would guess a lot of people so um but i haven't had a problem with it up no just i'll pull up a YouTube right now but if the app were to disappear can you use browse or something like that well actually I'm gonna step in right here just for a second Eva since they won on Windows Phone youtube for windows phone was just a shortcut an icon which lead you to the mobile application over there watch the videos online on the site this application is different you can Madeline you can and actually html5 on when on the widow's home browser is very good it is i would consider the html5 experience superior on windows phone but the problem is that the browser is not based on the WebKit protocol so for example if you're watching a video right now and you buy any reason press any of the capacitive buttons and leave the browser whenever you return to the video it'll start from the beginning whereas if you do it on the application you don't have that problem and if you do it on ios and android you don't have that problem only in windows front is they don't use web but as far as far as actually playing here you go there's Anton hi Anton how you doing hey I'm I said I'm also hearing Ravi on back in London yeah so yeah so yeah I was able to pull it out I mean at least in the mobile web browser it's a workaround but let's face it it's windows phone what is listen to work around on Windows Phone so long live chevron yeah Madeline yeah else any questions to the team any final thoughts its use your time however you wish well yeah i still wait for the US it even though i'm really disappointed that they haven't given any information about that it there's an interesting story when i was back in london i met this awesome awesome lady who was in charge with a couple of phones and she was kind enough to help me get some hands-on and she at one point noticed that i grabbed the 808 PureView from from my bag and I compared it against the Lumia 925 and of course she was kind enough to wait until I finish the video and she said to me i'll try to quote you know what could be the biggest thing that can happen and I was like know what the 808 PureView in that Jesse's running Windows Phone 8 and I was like you got me even though not with those phony android God is yeah android I'm not sure and if somebody is knowledgeable enough watching this could you guys leave a comment or send me an email Anton at pocketnow.com does android support high resolution sensors like the 41-megapixel sensor let's say nokia would have a choice let's go with android would android support 41 megapixel camera sensors hi I believe that the manufacturer would be responsible for building the driver the driver is one thing but the platform by itself the actual snapping the picture through the driver writing it too after processing it writing it to the file system is that something which supports because I don't symbian nokia had to do that specifically for symbian for the 808 we have a galaxy camera man i don't know well that's that's how many megapixels is that that's 16 but still you know it's an optical sensor it's a different ball game and I guess they figured it out so I think that Android can do it but he knows a developer maybe please drop us a line nine o'clock it's just data just put the date on the phone just do it so yeah it's great Medlen I have a question for you yes if supposedly the Nokia EOS with 41 megapixel sensor and the optical image stabilization would come up with an awesome aluminum chassis sand and all the good stuff but running Android would you go for it well I don't really hate and right but I don't I just think it's kind of boring it's it's for Mia I'm done with it would you buy it or do you not Alice me nah maybe right now I'm actually actually kind of like the Sony Xperia said are because it's a water-resistant yes that's it's a cool feature I know you had that right I have the Zia oh this yell actually talking about water resistance and my stepfather he dropped his 920 in a bucket of water oh and I said to him that he should take his phone cook it in a bowl of white rice and leave it for tonight and it worked the day after oh nice that will just about knocked aerial quality yeah but just remember that the internals will rust at some point it's not it's not coated so the smartest thing is to figure out a way to just get it replaced for warranty I'm at least had the toilet phone oh the toilet phone is here yes toilet phone here it is HTC sensation and that nice works I know it doesn't work anymore sadly it does a woody it worked for a full year before calling it quits after falling in the toilet yeah see if I drop my phone in the bucket in a bucket of water I'd probably put in a bowl of rice for like three days I would like to want to get every little sip of moisture out of that thing that I could I wouldn't I wouldn't just do it overnight I do it for days also sells my salt works pretty well yeah salt works well okay you know and Tony going going back to your question for Madeleine I don't understand why Nokia can't go both ways I mean they've got the Rajah lineup why don't they come up with their Android lineup and keep their lluvias fine I can only apply on this and since they made such a huge deal about knowing windows phone because they didn't want to get lost in the sea of android oems now it becomes a thing of pride maybe now after New Year's that they stuck the Windows Phone going Android would be like recognizing that okay we were wrong we lost in this game and we are trying desperately to catch up to something in order to survive not to mention what does that say about your Lumia line I mean you know where we've we've been all Lumia for two years and now oh wait here's an android phone oh but still pleased by Lumias yeah okdokey a right on top of that no problem yeah nokia is an expert in hardware they've brought so much innovation into the world mean I don't want no get a die that's my problem that I my first four phones were made by nokia i call it Nokia's problem but okay I also think it's not a good idea that they make so many different phones and subscribe to the YouTube channel and get videos from every film they made I think it's confusing how much the how many phones that make yeah yeah they should keep to the one phone and keeping them open for every carrier that would be smart yeah let me add has a carrier problem too because they've got the 920 the 928 the 925 the 920 six-and-a-half edges I really need to go cross they really need to go across all carriers with the same device the same branding just bits and it's a Lumia 920 or whatever I just won't even heard of Adam I would go further I don't think that nokia has a carrier problem i think that nokia has a u.s. perception problem because if you're looking at the latest numbers which nakia published the financial numbers the entire Earth globally nokia saw a rise and in its as in market share it's us the only market where they saw a slight slight slight sly close to zero increase or was it a decrease so I think Nokia made the big mistake that back in the day when they were the number one OEMs they neglected the US market and now the US market is reacting I mean if you negate or such a long time you know what know yourself and that's all well I mean that could be too but they're also selling five different flagship phones in the United States which one do you get the 920 the 925 and then 28 oh yeah it's it's just if they would go across you know cross carriers in the United States or wherever and just keep the same darn name I mean that way people will know it's a nokia lumia 920 they don't have to guess what why is my why is my 928 better than the 920 well it's not i have the answer for that and my interview from London okay I'm not gonna I see horrors mispers I see what you did there okay oh but I think and then it doesn't matter because all and the phones that comes to Denmark they are open to every carrier we have yeah and I don't think we're the the 925 of the 928 is coming to Denmark so I think you will only get them in 25 and you will have the option of either 925 or 920 which are both global versions and there's the situation is the same here and in Romania or in the entire Europe and it's the same i think in Honduras with time it's just the US where every carrier has to be pleased yeah yeah I think you know the 925 is coming I still waiting for the EOS yeah yeah then the problem is the United States is a credit country a hundred percent credit so it's if nobody buys anything cash out even you know it's funny if I it's harder for me to make five hundred dollars in my country then to make five hundred dollars in the United States and still the United States is more of a credit country even even if the value of money over there is much higher it's just that it's just the cultural thing that it is I know closing thoughts or maybe a question for any one of us I think the final thing I wanted to say and I have wanted to say a long time that is the only thing i like about iOS it's the year equus is that the products they work together yeah I think that will be the thing that would be most compelling to Microsoft if they could do something like that from the film's to the tablet to the computer now that they have the windows a decline so you're saying that if Windows RT and windows 8 and windows phone 8 and windows 8 on the tablet would play together as well as maybe the max the iphones the iPads the Apple TVs and so on they could sell more if they did that because I have known people that said that a has tried the windows phone and then shifted back because they didn't like how that didn't work with the computer or tablet so okay i have got it I know a lot my camera on you and that's gonna be because you have your twitter handle there right yes if it's not awkward everybody go follow Madeline at ma d z IE CA T headland thank you very much and you know I'm right there with you I'm waiting for the EOS I'm a huge 808 fanboy probably the only one on this planet but that's that's the camera for me yes there you've got Maxie's he's there he's oh yeah they call it the Tony phone yeah Madeline thank you very much for joining and hope to see you next week that's why I joining hi here bye bye and before this is going to be the final round so it's gonna be one more chemical and one more Adam Cole and no more calls for me but before that there's the question to Jaime do you think ios7 might be the biggest thing this year from apple ah that's a big question I don't know I've never seen anything any software ever made by Jonathan Ive i have seen OS 10 being dramatically improved by craig federighi so functionality wise it could be the design wise i think that apple's gonna play it safe and leave it conservative and therefore i don't really think that it's going to be groundbreaking initially it'll probably be on version 2 or something but who knows i mean probably we don't know the fact that probably iOS 7 could have been a work in progress for the past two years I mean Steve Jobs said that iOS originally was five years ahead of its time and that would that ended in 2012 so probably they started building you know it to whatever we're going to get in june or probably not that's it's it's a very tough question to answer right now much for your answer I've been trying desperately to try to stop the ongoing flood from alec Alexandra Prado who is I guess a national of mine but there's no way I can do that so we'll just have to put up with the lag and everything that happens I have lost control of everything so with that I'm gonna hand it over to Jaime okay so since this is the final hang out and there is a bad mother deed fan here that I don't want to talk to Lulu I would have to talk to the guy because he has a blackberry question so this is gonna make Adam happy not really all right ho step on wed what's up hey how are you can you hear me oh can he just find trying to conquer the world here okay I have a question for all you guys far away okay blackberry is just releasing his BBM in summer and I think and don't you think this is just a slaver blackberry just for introduce he's it's a smart phone to android because our blackberry sofurry stacking technology company bleeding so what do you think about it okay I'll give you an example IBM IBM used to be a hardware company they build computers originally and then they ended up being a software company he asked for the last five or six years I think that Nokia is making a budge into their here services in order for them to land and mail as a software company if their hardware intent doesn't work and i do believe that what BlackBerry's doing is the same thing they're like okay if we can't succeed in building phones then let's make the best messenger out there the problem is there five years late if they would have done this five years ago then BBM would have made sense because in latin america you and I are in Latin America this is blackberry land or at least this was blackberry land up to a year ago um but the problem is that they didn't react and that whatsapp ate the market share and so the problem is why would you want to move away from whatsapp on what's happened already just as good as BBM I mean bbm is going to be here and on to be honest with you something that I've been noticing for the last four months is that everybody that I know has an iphone and I didn't see that before everybody that I knew had a blackberry before so sadly this is gonna be the year for the iphone in latin america next year it's gonna be for the galaxy because they don't even know what android is they know what the galaxy is and that's gonna be the deal sadly so i believe that there it's a smart move the blackberries doing but i feel it's too late that's my perspective and that's my perspective any other question I was I was desperately waiting for Adam to jump in before I was chewing my answer but no I think had him agrees completely with you yeah that's Jamie I'm a pretty much summed it up so so fire away tony well i was saying the following thing I don't think that having a blackberry messenger application for Android and iOS would do any good in the short mid or long term for for blackberry as a platform and as a company because I was a blackberry user just like Jaime my entire company was on blackberry all the communications were happening on blackberry today I cannot tell you one or two of my friends / acquaintances who still use blackberry so let's say Alan stole BBM on Android or iOS Who am I gonna talk to you know the only reason the only reason why I start using bbm is not necessarily because I have any friends left using it but because i know that it's like one of the most secure services out there um so yeah i mean if you have a need to have like a very secure conversation with somebody that you don't want to get leaked bbm is gonna be like your safest pick but then yeah I bet you how the situation is in your region guys but here and in Europe and especially in eastern europe facebook Messenger has become the standard for all communications and it even it even beats SMS now one thing you I don't know if you've ever talked Tony with with Michael I have not asked him this question I really would like to know where probably you know about this Adam if the blackberry z10 requires a connection to the inner to an internet server to the blackberry internet server or does it connect like every other phone to the typical internet 8 provided by the carrier do does any of you know how I think if the if my previous usage of blackberry phones is any example I have not used the BB 10 or the c10 or the q10 but it needs an internet connection to connect to BB sbes and bis which are blackberry enterprise service blackberry internet service and library whatever service no ok so that's both good and bad because that that's both good and bad that because that server falls all the time lately I don't know what's wrong with blackberry yeah I mean I was gonna say remember the huge blackberry messenger outage at half and what about two years ago I mean it was a global thing and it was just because you know someone tripped over the cord and server room or something it's so but I mean that happened and like blackberry around the world went dead so I would imagine there's has to be some type of connection to something located in Canada but I'm as far as like the actual architecture behind it got me so yeah any other questions that was open with no it's okay imma Thank You probative it's a pleasure it's a pleasure talking to you I don't know if you can lock the camera Tony for hold on just one second there it is it should be locked and listen I don't care if we have muddied winds today that's the copilot's the second place that doesn't really matter right i mean Barcelona is already the champion that is what matters word was annoyed a pleasure talking to you bye-bye because nobody I have one personal obligation and this is a question on my personal facebook account link right there from Peter Nicholas bravado and he's a long time pocket now reader and he has a question for all of us and the question goes like this do you think sometime in the future OEMs will launch their phones with just talk android rather than the OEM skin or make it an option to turn it out of the theme just like the HTC first reason why I'm bringing this up now is the gs4 now launching vanilla makes me think that this will be a slowly developing between oems I don't say it you know oems put so much into their skins and so much into and actually when I first broke my first facebook home piece I was under the impression that home was you know just wiping over everything because nobody had seen it yet I mean you know there were a couple of leaks but I mean for the most part I was just going by what they saw in the video and my whole point at the time was you know OEMs put a lot of money into research and development for these skins they put a lot of work into these things to make them the more the most usable flavor of Android out there therefore people will come by it i mean it is it possible sure in the next couple of years i would say probably not that's going to have to be a that's going to be had that's gonna have to be a trend that starts with the grassroots movement the geeks and then that'll move to the general population at that point OEMs will look at it and say oh what are we blowing all this money on research and development for let's just put stock on in a call today so but yeah that's that's several years out if if at all I'll give you my perspective um it would be going back in time I mean if we go back to Android version 1.6 that's the way things worked you got a phone with android and cirno liam's like HTC came out with the version of sense you know their first version of sense on the HTC which was at the hero I believe the hero was phone with HTC sense so in the past it used to be that way in the past windows mobile used to be that way as well um the problem is that that system did not work and it's funny it's a complete irony I mean think about it these hardware companies are doing an awesome job with hardware wouldn't it be smart to just let Google focus on the software and have everybody be you know have everything work together it should be that way but the problem is that it has proven it has proven not to work you know if the if the hardware companies are not in control of their own software they can not enhance the experience in a way for them to differentiate their hardware for people to want the phone and sadly for everybody you know you don't with this proportion of the phone you don't interact with the aluminum when you interact with is what's on the screen that's really what matters it's what's on the display its what's on the software so i think the Tony put it best in in our hangout yesterday when he said samsung sells you a Samson's bum they don't sell you an android device they sell you a samsung phone and therefore a companies are going to continue trying to differentiate that's the reason why windows phone does not take off because OEMs do not feel and control the process and microsoft is not doing a better job than they are that's the problem ok ok thank you very much and before I hand it over to the last call of the day it looks like we have a comment here it says bb10 uses normal internet i use it daily thank you very much Ravi or ray V and there's there's a lot of comments on YouTube concerning a alleged PocketNow phone and people would actually pay four hundred dollars for that and I can already see ourselves in in a garage with brandon michael taylor and everybody on the team soldiering motherboards and then doing stuff what do you guys think you bring the soldering iron I'll bring the beer I was gonna bring the beer you're not you're gonna do the BBQ man I'll handle the grill Oh Adam please they can scold ah let's go with alexandra is that is that you Alexandra ch eat try a try ch Alexandra how you doing I think you might be muted in there no we might have to move on audio issues no no problem Adam bleach I don't know all right yes sir oh you know you are okay sorry it's my i use a google plus because I I watched your your last life pocketnow and honor the first time i use it i didn't know how to desert activate it activate my my don't work we hate it too don't worry consider yourself because I activated so what do you want to chitchat about you want to talk about google i/o nokia that other company what do you got I don't know maybe Google i/o is is a is a good point because I think that Google i/o bra brought a lot of things new besides what people think because we are a very we are used to lots of new things but Google is doing always something new and it's improving I think that most of the things that they do is integrating all the new things that other companies do like Google+ is something like Facebook that thing that the last time in pocket now live someone talk about the picture with the faces that are attached that is a future feature that has if i'm not mistaken the experience he and they brought that feature they know no has some phone I could chew on maybe or some other phone has technology as for the galaxy on work ok ok technology the technology is actually Nokia's oh ok that's instant interesting story so so I think that Google a lot a lot on the table but I also think that you are right Jamie Rivera about Google waiting for the able to release their the new new I iOS iOS yeah then they they will make the step to release the new android and I think that is the there they are changing because first time I April will release their their features after Google so they had a point ahead now is google that is doing the reverse think about this don't so I think that Google is maturing in some way you know the things that they do yeah that could be I mean I I kind of disagree about the whole timing aspect you know I don't know that Google necessarily waiting on Apple to decide what they're gonna put out as opposed to you know to counter what Apple does cuz I got to think that all this stuff has been decided a long time ago I mean this isn't this isn't the type of stuff you sit down in a garage over a weekend and bang out you know a best face feature on the camera this is something that's in development for you know months and months and months so I have to think that there's executives in Google that are holding spec sheets for Android seven you know that are kind of going over them I'm approving what's going to be there and you know and I i I'm pretty sure there's a samsung executive that has a galaxy note5 on his desk already to approve so um I mean here's the problem Adam do you remember what Android looked like before it was launched I what was Android I know I love I loved the landscape layout with a 40 keyboard and okay so let's let's remember this when blackberry was was went sorry when Android was initially considered when Sergey Brin and look for this video on YouTube when he introduces Android for the first time it was a product to compete with blackberry um Windows Windows Mobile lot when it was launched it was a product to compete with Nokia and then out of the blue comes apple with something completely different and everybody was flummoxed everybody was like capacitive despues aluminum chassis um the for every nobody remembers this before gigabytes of storage back then was literally almost impossible to find and so so the point being is I think that Google is doing the smart thing and not under estimating what Apple is going to do in june because a lot of things are changing we don't have the stubbornness of scott forstall anymore so it could be that what we get as groundbreaking it could be not but you know I think that you know Google already learned their lesson they they you know they learn what happened with the iphone they completely swapped everything and they came up with the HTC dream that's the reason why the code name is dream which we eventually new at the tmobile one the the whatever the g1 and you know I think that it's happening again you know they underestimated apple with the ipad they didn't know anything about it when you least expect that boom here's the IMF and back then remember that the Eric Schmidt was part of the of was part of apples um board of directors now they got they've got nobody on the inside so I think that Google is doing the smart thing that's me i think that there is a conspiracy theory ok ok you need to rev it up I'm running out of coffee yeah he'll Alexandria got anything else you want to talk about um now I have a nexus 4 i boasted the two months ago i think i am very eager for the nexus 5 because all the phones that are released in the last month our full akadi full HD they have nice camera 13 megapixel for megapixel tropics and i'm really waiting for the nexus 5 because I i switch Allah switched a lot of phones I had a ATT 11 x I had the not too many other phones they're not too I like it a lot but i didn't i didn't like the display because it is big enough to see pixels even in the 7p photography yeah yes so I i I'm going to debate or for the nexus 5 or for the not free with full-hd in a good display and I loved about the the bed the battery the battery is this wonderful and not to because I can use my phone for two days without worrying to charge the phone which I cannot say about the nexus 4 because I'm searching all the tweaks to make more durable the battery but I I I can I cannot so I'm gonna kind of funny that oh I'm sorry I find kind of funny that you say you know you're looking forward to you know a full HD display and get in the same breath you mentioned how much you love battery life so so I also kind of get a kick out of the fact that you're you say you just watched your nexus for two months ago and the early one x is 5 you are such a smart phone player you go boy you've gotta buy smartphones yes i like very much to this he's like yes I got money yes I got money no because I here I'm from me today but I'm Romanian okay and here I about the phone because we don't we have contracts but I don't do contracts i bought the phone then when i bought the next one i sell the phone put up 50 euros a hundred and i have a new phone and then I i don't know i don't need to stick to the contract because it is one year or two years in one year your phone is old is already all you have the android 2.3 or four point and it's not new so i think it is yea or nay on that's gonna do it for today and we have to get up we have to get it come inside baby I'm my food is actually still here and it's cold so we have to go yeah and yes thank you very much for having me is the first time that I tried I tried to click that book button a hundred times we shall we so I don't know we saw you clicking the button believe me it yeah thank you a lot and you're the best you're today I always watch your your videos thank you very much we love you too and ladies and gentlemen I got a plane coming in and you'll hear it but with that that's gonna do it for today's episode number 16 of pocket now live I've been Anton denied managing editor of pocketnow.com you can follow me right there there's no need for me to read it out and I had the utmost pleasure of being joined today by our multimedia manager hi may be better you can follow him right there hi mate please any final thoughts any final thoughts as i'm out of coffee i would rather go for the Lumia 920 instead of the 925 and I really want to see what Google comes up with soon because they will and you are not alone in that and also my my pleasure is also because contributing editor Adam doubt from Chicago Golan I love saying chicago illinois i don't know why but she from Chicago Illinois and I'm doubt if I'm I love living in chicago illinois so yeah i just picked up a Lumia 920 I said I was going to wait and see what you looking ahead yeah Yello you like that Leslie showing it off I even had I even had a twitter twitter poll saying you know white or yellow guys cuz white matches the car and everyone said yellow so um but yeah i said i was going to get a Lumia 920 depending on what Nokia had to offer on monday and they offered nothing so I went out and got a Lumia 920 whew that was very harsh statement mr. Dowd well nokia needs to stop having invites in bath yeah nokia needs to stop having events for non phones stop it save your money on catering and pay your bills if you would okay know what I love them they serve good drinks Adam what are you talking about it's exactly these moments that i love that the bucket now live show is categorized under editorial tag mm-hmm and with that everybody thank you very much really for joining us everybody have an awesome weekend good stuff coming up as usual and pocket now as usual I cannot talk about it but you will see it firsthand next week everybody stay safe have an awesome weekend thank you very much for joining us till next week take care