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you know there was a time when the fall season meant interesting new TV shows also do you remember when pumpkin spice lattes weren't so much of a thing but they're back now how about when the weather used to turn cold well the only thing that happens past September first in our world was the Apple event it is completely announced it's happening on September 12 but in terms of other news we've got looks forward to through the holidays including five cameras on the back of a nokia phone a four digits Snapdragon four bonafide computers and a fortnight cross-play across Android devices no thanks to Sony no less oh and by the way again the new iPhones on its way all that and more as we settle in for another show it's the PocketNow weekly on this day September 7 of 2018 episode number 3 to 1 brought to you by a pocket now and xda-developers from smartphones to tablets to wearables and so much more stuff you've dreamed of having since you were a kid let's get talking about all of that stuff I am your host I'm sorry but hold on for a second Brendan do you hear what I hear do you hear what I hear that's I think is d hear the repetition going on here no it sounds just fine to me ok I'm sorry no I think I'm being dumb here and because I have the live chat going on I forgot to mute the other thing so I've been trying I've been contacting as they hey we're still on so just wait a few seconds and I was like oh yeah I forgot to mute so sorry about that folks all right well in any case let us know obviously in the live chat anything that you want to know across our podcast today but as far as our podcast is concerned I'm your host for the weekly it's Joshua Vergara what's going on everybody one quick thing I just wanted to talk about doesn't I'm not gonna go in depth with it but I finally did it I finally got a black well this is a deep brown skin but it is black and yellow now so that is what I wanted that is always what I wanted and we're gonna pop it over to Brandon minimun the king of Purusha good day sir hi hey Josh here on the East Coast we referred to pumpkin spice lattes and jewels will know this as PSL oh yeah I believe I mean I refer to PSL as port st. Lucie and down in Florida where my why my dear friends lives and it's it's a fun place actually I I don't really okay clearly I make my own coffee and I don't go to Starbucks but I have been to Starbucks when someone goes up to the counter and says I'll have a PSL and I just oh you did get the cringe the cringe just happens that specific lotin lisp that goes long there that really killed unfortunately for jaime de Vetta who is scheduled to be on today's show he's having a couple of issues but he'll probably pop in at some point but after hi may we have of course our man in the producers booth Jules Wong in the oh it says here our princely producer Jules Wong in the castle that's because like I had the whole thing because Jaime Rivera was supposed to be the true king of queens and then there's the King of Prussia and reference to the Philadelphia area and like I couldn't really come up with anything except for princely castle things so like that really fell apart if he's the if he's the king and I'm like the host because I don't have a designation here on the scripts and would that make me the Jester you're the jack of all spades man ah there you go all right we have a lot of news as always this week and of course we're gonna talk about the iPhones but that's gonna be a little bit later let's start off with the other phone that everyone is clamoring for right now potentially the one that has had the most leaks recently the Google pixel 3 now we already have a bunch of stories over at pocketnow.com talking about how the pixel 3d and the pixel 3 excel may or may not have notches or anything like that but we also have leaks that occurred because a shipment of phones was stolen apparently so we got actual looks into the devices oh there's Jaime hey there we go but with the pixel 3 in the pixel 3 Excel there is actually a youtuber right now who has been just waxing poetic about the pixel the knotch and just how much he really dislikes it and while there is speculation right now as to whether or not Google is actually trolling us one thing is for certain with this particular youtuber Google contacted him and said we would like to use a clip of yours for a future that's a thing so with this in mind we have the Google pixel 3 coming up right after well potentially right after the iPhone 10s if that's what it's going to be called notches no notches the fact that Google contacted this YouTube or how do we all feel about this development that just occurred all right so just for more context here we are talking about this youtuber it's front-page tech and he has had an serious rap against the notches every time as leek pulled up sure enough that notch he's been railing against it I mean he rails against a lot of things and uses a lot of clickbait anyways so I mean that's his kind of style nothing against him but it's like you know why would you Google choose from your hardware team choose this little clip that you might want to use from someone who's clearly anti notch who's clearly anti pixel 3xl based on the leaks we've seen and you know incorporate others who have had a similar kind of dislike distrust us hate well actual full-on hate on this design aspect so yeah it could it be that there is a no knotch device that this these devices that you've been seeing out in the real world or actually do you think are actually not the final product or actually not representative of what the 3xl actually is or could it be that you're going to prove a point with that not saying that just as with the iPhone 10 as with Apple that there is something useful that you can do because I don't think that point has been made really strongly in most of an Android lands case because for the most part it's just been not for knotch stake that the iPhone 10 it has this premium this thousand-dollar design and all of these emulations are just too no no get get that dollar price up that that dollar sign that really good prestige II kind of feeling going on yeah Brandon get a couple I feel you had a couple thoughts coming in yeah um I don't think that these phones with the notch are fake in fact I'm trying to think back to whether this has ever happened before where a company puts fake devices in the field to throw off people and five iPhone 5 it was it was almost clear that the design of the iPhone 6 was going to be the design of the iPhone 5 and apparently something delayed them and that's why we ended up with the design that we had for the 5 and the 5s that's the last time that I remember something like that hey everyone how's everything I'm a is here as Jill said King the King of Queens but he's back in Queens after being horribly jet-lagged yet full of currywurst was so bad there Brendon go and finish with that record yes so I mean there have been cases where companies leak phones on purpose to generate buzz I mean there's I can remember a few companies that HTC would do that a lot for example they would literally send pictures of a device to a publisher or an influencer for them to leak it online to get the conversation going about that phone well in advance of its release but besides that and the Apple thing there haven't been many cases where where a phone company has released a fake phone into the field because that messes up the whole PR marketing narrative and lets create certain expectations of the phone so I don't think that I think there is a notch and I don't think it's well the the the fact that Google's Hardware team is trying to source a clip from this youtuber can can point to two things for me and it's the same exact thing just in two different sides of the coin number one it's either going to be a clip that they're going to use in a video package Google and Samsung do this or they get influencer slash youtuber clips to illustrate a point and that point could be a look you thought it was gonna be a notch and you hated it but it's not or you thought it was gonna be a notch and you're right take a look a that's gotta be the most horrible knotch design ever that's got to be the most horrible chin design ever where the speakers are not symmetrical like they are currently with the pixel to Excel but I think asymmetrical is something very common lately with the whole notch design anyways hmm I feel that it has to serve a purpose I just have you been following the daily part of my argument is if I if I bought a $2,000 pixel to excel it's not because I bought a phone it's because I know what I bought and so I just don't understand how it's been found on the subway in Canada or it's been left on a lift and somebody didn't just go ballistic I mean some hot publication must have already bought that thing and made crazy amounts of leaks about it I mean we've we've seen it for so long people buying you know these like dummy phones from iPhones to publish content on them so why why why is there so little buzz there is buzz but not as much as I would expect from a product so hot I guess well I've been talking with some of my reporting sources and some of my colleagues in the industry and they've been talking about how oh these leaks this guy that actually offered up and like he was from Ukraine or something he was actually offering up these phones that were in that shipping container full of pixel three excels you know to these publications and they kind of you know passed on that the publication's passed on that and when several weeks went by before the next big kind of leak happened based off of that shipment so but this would there has been some they wouldn't this would make any small publication or small youtuber so big so that's the reason why it's like fine the large publications turned it down because of the iPhone 4 story and how this one got back to his moto back in the day I get that but then there are so many I mean I think you would never be able to get into that google event anyways exactly before like achieve relationships and like that yeah totally I understand yeah exactly does make sense um and we've been trying to get with PR with Google to see if they have any more room with that October 9 events in New York I mean we're gonna be there anyways because we're just close by so it's like if we're not gonna congregate there for like the actual event we're just gonna be there for fun so I mean no it's your move Google that's your room alright well from Google we're gonna move on to the competitor and a little bit of talk about Apple but we're gonna get more a bit later into the iPhone in particular right now we're talking about the Apple watch okay so here's the thing Apple is the usual leader when it comes to smartwatches and they continue to be the dominant one with 41% of the market share but apparently Samsung and fossil have kind of fallen off and in their place or competitors like Fitbit with their versa which we'll talk about in a second but apparently even though they have 41 percent of the market share a lot of users are trying to save a little bit of money by getting an Apple watch without water resistance without GPS without cellular capabilities and in that case they're springing for these series one unit after all this is a pretty expensive watch oh there any Apple watch users in our panel right now may know I don't buy that thing oh my god like the first generation Apple watch was the worse the it's a composite and I apologize for the phone I can turn that off and it's not a landline god it's the worst because I know it's a spam call you have been selected for a new car no I don't because they're all machines man what conversations do you have I don't have to the whole AI conversation that we had this morning but I like I talked to the real people in the call centers and we have a nice conversation well here's the thing so the first generation Apple watch had a slimmer screen it had like I have it right there I wish I wish I could bring it up like the composite back everything would scratch up so badly and then the aluminum because of the 7000 series alloy or whatever that would be it oxidative a that the watch will not last you more than a year and let alone I'm just talking about the exterior oh my god the the apps don't work like every time that I that I get people I'm like literally for a hundred dollars go for a serious three like if you're gonna buy an Apple watch like listen for that amount of money go buy a Garmin Phoenix or something like that you could probably get like the glass version for for a lot less money if you're serious about fitness the Apple watch series three would be like the good it's good enough for fitness but the series one is not good for anything it barely tells the time if it didn't hang Oh and it takes like five minutes to boot it stop with a list right now and this whole price disparity thing when it comes to smartwatches interesting because my brother is the kind of person who buys $4,000 he only has two by the way $4,000 watches that are automatic and they're like really high-end they're timepieces right and people are wanting to like get the price of smartwatches down when when you think about it even a four thousand dollar timepiece doesn't have the same amount of stuff that a SmartWatch has so why are we all griping so much about the price of a SmartWatch with the difference that my dad has a 30-year old Rolex that still ticks whereas what guarantee do we have just think about the amount like the two or three people the two or three celebrities that bought the $17,000 Apple watch Edition that gold watch like what do you get for $17,000 you get a class in college it's it's just ridiculous like I wouldn't pay that much amount of money for tech because of planned obsolescence if there was a if there was such a thing where it's like it's $17,000 but then we guarantee that that Hardware will be taken care of for 10 years or more sorry I mean I would totally do it but not not or they're gonna swap the internals or give me another golden iseman two years three years down the line if anything happens to that thing but otherwise I wouldn't and let's not forget that that four or $5,000 Rolex will actually appreciate in value exactly where whereas the technology one depreciates tremendously almost doctor zero at some point think about the differences in capabilities between series 1 and series 3 first of all apps actually load on series 3 where they don't unserious 1 yeah well uh Brendan I feel like I interrupted one of your thoughts I really I just want be sure that you were able to say before we move on to our next topic oh the thing I was gonna say is I actually have a serious one and I agree with everything Jaime says I'm a do they still make the sport version of the Apple watch yeah yeah I got I had both the stainless steel and the sport version of serious one and my stainless steel got destroyed just by wearing it like yours but the sport version super interesting because it's really lightweight compared to this to the regular it is really lightweight but again it scratches horribly I mean just watch my after the buzz video I think are after the buzz of that series one I was just so disappointed because I actually bought the watch it wasn't a review unit I actually pay for it and I just so I I have never felt so bad about throwing away 350 bucks in my no $400 in my life like ever it's such a bad investment back in the day it's cheaper now but it's still bad well I mean if there's one thing that's clear like you know props to the industry I mean with the Apple watch we have a lot more competition a lot of great smartwatches have been coming out and even just other wearables in general I mean the Fitbit Versa is on the list and I'm not surprised personally to see that Xiaomi subsidiary amaze fit show me in general to be honest is third when you have people buying up things like this me BAM 3d like crazy right now so I mean the me man if you've never tried it out I would highly recommend it but it's the back as well that too well that's part of the reason why yeah yeah misses by the way by the way this is a great sleep tracker let me just put that out there for a sec in any case we are going to get into some processor talk as well as snapdragon is going to hit the 1000 more apparently call comms latest SOC has been benchmarked allegedly over on Geekbench and it looks like it's getting some pretty amazing scores and what we see here is that the device it was tested on was an android 9 Android Pi device at 6 gigabytes of RAM and it scored over 10,000 but there is another score here that is available if you scroll down as well on that particular story I'm talking so that's the Geekbench of benchmark here and a single core 3700 and the multi-core score which is 10,500 and I believe the general areas that we are dealing with for the 845 are just under 9,000 or something like that so no Vegeta crushing the power meter there but this is kind of this is kind of amazing and there has been questions as to whether or not this would be a competitor in Intel or against Intel with the u series chips that they have for until Core i5 s i3 Zeiss Evans and what not so this is what might be termed the Snapdragon 1000 there's also another model there we go is out the 80 180 which we're not sure what that would refer to exactly just yet and this but that one's in a Windows Home machine that's that yeah well okay maybe maybe I could be wrong on this because I'm a geek match could be measuring Android to Android and Windows - windows so these numbers could be differing just a little bit here and actually not only that like the architectures got really different like porn chips are RISC processors I believe in risk actually stands for something and a desktop processor is a completely different ballgame the fact that Windows 10 was emulated to run on a snapdragon 835 and now the 850 which by the way Thank You Jules for the heads up why well we were a tea because I was able to play with the Lenovo 850 variant but it still is an emulation it's not really it is Windows but it's not Windows twist reduced instruction set computer is and then you have the full complex instructions exactly exactly and so it's it's a an ARM based processor is one thing and so even if the metrics are huge even if it's a 7 nanometre chip in the case of what Huawei is coming up with and the rumors of the iPhone it is still an ARM chip it's not a full-blown you know like the other ones yeah and you know what I just I just look at this and I see Snapdragon 1000 you know it I'm more of an existential type when it comes to tech I I remember when it was the s4 pro I have to say like I am just you know I've been using the note 9 since it since it launched I'm just I'm so happy with what the 845 has done for this year I think the last time I was so happy with a you know the performance of a processor was the Snapdragon 800 with the Galaxy Note 3 that was such a good processor great battery life but then every single processor that came after it lacked something either battery life or heating issues with the 810 yadda yadda yadda and it's just it's not until like the 835 was good but the 845 is so much better yeah and you just just imagine what's gonna happen if they keep that momentum up for a 4-digit Snapdragon processor I can't even believe that we're here now yeah 1000 is just gonna keep going up from there any thoughts on this new processor Brendan um yeah it's interesting because the 800 I agree was a great processor that the 801 was cool the 810 was a complete disaster because of the overheating issues but they went from cool to hot right yeah and then it went back to cool with the eight 2821 the eight thirty five was fantastic the eight forty five has been really great in terms of battery life and performance so I'm really excited for the 1000 as long as it's coming into a phone something by the way Josh I have mighty nice I'm on coffee this morning is ec4 the rest of you it's the afternoon for me it's still the morning all right so moving forward to even more speculation over a new Nokia device okay so we have been we have been hearing at least rumors and we saw a render of a Nokia brand it found two had five cameras but now it looks like we actually got a real picture of one now that Zeiss logo is telling but it is in the middle of this pentagonal shape where you have five cameras a sensor and a flash wait a cell there's not five cameras there why does everyone keep saying that let's count the lenses there's not five can't we talk about that one two three four five and then you have the flash on the left of the Zeiss and then though to the right of the Zeiss is some sort of sensor it might be the laser autofocus probably oh the one on the right isn't a lens okay there are four there there must be a Photoshop issue as well I mean look at this thing go like like it does look a little and you know you never know perhaps there's a dual camera there so this is why I think happening here you have two cameras above and below the Zeiss logo and then you have the two on the side and someone just copied and pasted more underneath it's so weird it looks like it looks like acne honestly on like it's so I mean how many we've had this conversation a number of times already how many cameras is too much and like did this configuration doesn't even quite make sense to me like in general to begin with speaking of camera mount I am waiting for a package and that package might arrive during the podcast so maybe we will have a live unboxing okay awesome because it has to be here in 20 minutes and it's a phone with a lot of cameras let's take a look at this like okay what would all these lenses even before like according to this article according to our article I should say there will apparently be one for telephoto one for black and white color and then blur in addition to multi lens pixel synthesis capabilities it's just like there's so many things each one's mochila and pixel synthesis that sounded so scientific I'm impressed well here view is now under the hmd umbrella so something's gonna happen with the new camera whether or not it's a bunch of lenses of true nose but some things happen here's the thing I think Nokia I love the way Nicole Scott pointed it out in the podcast that we did with Miriam recently where I haven't seen her in forever I haven't seen Miriam and forever but I'm actually gonna be in her podcast soon that's gonna be great but but in the case of it's just nokia has like completely revitalized with the whole age of the approach beautiful design Android one no complications they're focusing on beautiful hardware and now that they have the patents to bring back great photography this is literally all that Nokia was missing to start making a dent and so I'm really looking forward to what they come up with I like I don't really care I feel that Nokia deserves more exposure here in the United States and I'm one of those people that I'm like you know I already talked to their PR like whenever you guys have stuff for the US you guys let me know starting with that banana phone if you can't send me the banana phone version again I'm not willing to test anything else that you have the banana phone begins because my favorite movie of all time is the matrix and I spent years wanting to afford that banana phone that I couldn't buy back in the day because I was broke AF well we'll see what Nokia's coming down the pipe and like it is if it is a Penta lens I can't believe I'm saying that word Penta lens why would we even oh my goodness in any case it's the summon the pure view devil from I just I just think that from an engineering perspective it's probably not possible if you want to fit things like a battery unless that phone is like really thick because of all those sensors being matched up plus you know it's just not gonna be a small phone oh no this could be five use three five lenses with a 1000 million power back if you think with two seasons they don't need like a battery like you know you remember the G the LG g5 which has magic yeah I still have that magic slaw what do you mean yuck that phone was not that ugly remember the build quality issues there was like a seemed like oh that phone introduced the white angle that's all that mattered exactly and and bear in mind for those of you you weren't at the briefing but I was in Josh and I were in like the very early briefing in Barcelona and the prototypes that they had there were not sharp in the corners like they were well built and they had issues with like the final manufacturing of the phone but not the prototypes the prototypes worked great mm-hmm yeah yeah all right so maybe one of the carriers that a Penta lensed Nokia would appear on in the US would be Sprint but if that's not enough I mean we could all dream we can all you know imagine this fanciful landscape full of phones that every single carrier in the world can have but you know what you know what that I came here expecting a serious conversation and I get you guys like really I was I was going to ask like halfway into this story does anyone here even user like sprint I got my answer already I have sprints and I have this plan well my problem with sprint is not their service my sister uses friends and she's happy with them my problem and they've got like good deals like I their iPhone forever planner their galaxy forever plan where you can get a new phone every year and stuff though that's great my problem is just having to slip us you know I live in a you know I my day job is testing phones and I can't have a phone that's stuck on one carrier oh yeah that's my issue too you know so that's project rhizomes that's my biggest problem but other than that whenever I'm on five for example I've noticed that most of the time here in New York I'm connected to Sprint and it's fine well I mean maybe being locked to one carrier is one day true but Sprint is trying their best to make it as the trend incentivizes crazy but what they're adding in on top of their unlimited talk text and full speed data take that for what you will you will also get a free title Premium Membership a free Hulu limited commercial subscription and even an Amazon Prime subscription now now I will say this being a prime member yes that is it's such a pretentious by putting about being a prime member I looked up because I remember Prime going up in price and I was very sad about it I said I don't care it is still just to give you an idea I broke my gorilla pod right now and on the trip to on the trip to Berlin and so Brandon has an extra gorilla pod I know and I was like shoot if you wanted to overnight a package this big it would be 60 70 bucks if not more just to overnight this which is the price of the gorilla pod and it just it was just three dollars to get it here the next day and in in in the near in not-too-distant future you'll be able to get it within 30 minutes with a drone can you imagine that oh my god yeah the throne as well but yeah out of the air like this mine well the Amazon Prime membership every year is I think it's $60 but every month it's $12.99 so every year is 120 what did I see 59 maybe that's the student 1 maybe that's Amazon students do know I need a student I'm gonna call my son for him to give me a suit like when you put all of the cost together I mean a $90 Sprint's monthly with all of these services in it like is this I use Hulu I use Amazon Prime I've never used title before but I could like what is this enough to like get people in the door 50 gigabytes of LTE data for a hotspot like I rely on that okay that's like like for me the deal is sweet and if you think about it the thing about Amazon Prime is it's not just one person you can have two people on the same crime account so you know that's when it starts stacking up if you do the math yeah you go to Whole Foods you save 20 percent or something and then you got like Amazon knows yes--you're yeah hang it right to area wait I need to start doing whole foods I totally forgot about that yeah ma'am it's hard to remember because you have to go into like the cart or something in the Amazon happened then there's the code yeah those benefits like I'm seriously just you know talking about a competitor I was not really much of a fan of t-mobile until I did this video of the of the note 9 versus the iPhone 10 and data speeds and I just realized how good t-mobile has become has become ban mine I'm using that phrase but it's just one of those things where you fly on Delta for example in of the you're a t-mobile customer you get unlimited yeah the Go Go Go Go I'm like you know it's those kinds of things that make me wanna I wouldn't bring in AT&T SIM card close to a plane anymore because of things like that so these are how to used to have they used to have I think free 10 gigs of data if you bought at at use the tablet through that was amazing exactly and so you know for me it's it's oh and then you get unlimited roaming which is which is on it's it's terrible because of the speed but you don't care at least it could serve for messaging and so and they just start getting LTE roaming passes anyway so like we're forgetting about t-mobile Tuesday's and the whole thing with that like they give up free you know I just started I think they want everybody to forget about that because I haven't heard again to be fair they've been doing it every week and the start of it was pretty you know chaotic and they weren't able to serve everyone because of the overwhelming demand but they've since you know have you fallen into a rhythm everything's more normal let me download it I totally forgotten I'm not an on dudas I just love it or II about sprint turned into a t-mobile of first lol potentially but I mean there's a lot more to love than AT&T or Verizon individually so a well speaking of things that we're not really big fans of the big speed and so much shade in this podcast oh boy this is hilarious okay in any case was there is in the actual debt like like like Dadis of all because like he he's the late you see the oldest or late who's the oldest of this group oh don't bring this conversation or responding about I have a I have made many bones about the Bigsby button not because I actually am that big not not because I'm that much of a hater of Bigsby like I see words usages are she's I don't use it that's the number one thing but the big speed button should have been there should have been an option for it to be like the active key from the active line because you're able to program that as a shortcut well apparently the Bigsby button itself might be getting an update and that update might eliminate the big speak so there was a user out in Germany that was that went on like a Twitter rants and in God and was basically saying I'm so sick of accidentally hitting this button and please samsung de because that's for Germany please do something about this I just don't think remap it or deactivate it please do something and as it turns out samsung Deutschland said we are working on it deactivation of the Bigsby button on the lock screen unlock screen take that take that for a grain of salt on lock screen should return until end of September so big speed button how about like we're three three out of the four people on this panel use the note 9 how many times a day do you hit that button 5 and it's and it's every time that I would like if I'm pulling the phone out of my pocket or something oh I've gotten used to pulling the phone out like this rather than on the sides because yeah well yeah the only time that I've had a real problem with the Big C button is the only time I get annoyed by it is I'm trying to lower the volume again like that yeah it gets you it gets super awkward because like I'm like sometimes when I play youtube video I maxed out the volume because I like I'm listening - Weezer cover Africa for the 50th time but then but then I go when I go then I go to play another video and I'm like I'm like I'm like laying in bed am I like why fell asleep and I go to play a video and it's so loud and I try to press volume down to like save her from waking up and me having to sleep on the couch that night but instead I hit the pictures already have like this dent pretty much a daily occurrence you know no well so my problem with Bixby really is it's not just that it's optional like I did a video on Bixby I think last year with the no date look at this thing damn it there were a ton of things that I liked about Bixby by the way I'm currently almost done editing our review of the note 9 which is gonna go live hopefully tonight and my argument and the review really is what happened it was actually not a bad service and lately it's gotten really bad like really really bad like it can't even respond to you naturally anymore it never gets things right and in the past what I liked about Bixby was you can enable Bixby labs and so it actually learned things or you can program commands but lately it's become I both sluggish mechanical and like if I tell it set by screens did not turn I didn't have to say specific commands for it to understand like screen time out I would just don't let my screen turn off in 10 minutes something like that and it would do that now it doesn't do that now you have to say a specific command or your EFT do you think that Bixby hasn't gotten better quickly enough or are you just comparing it to like Google assistant I'm comparing it the like I actually use this thing like I actually liked waking up in the morning and being like hey whatever good morning and so with the good morning command it would automatically you know give me the weather it would give me the news it would give me a ton of stuff that I cared about you know early in the morning or good night it would set my alarms I would love those kinds of commands I actively used it and it's gotten worse yeah III found that like all other assistants actually have that kind of feature the morning briefing automation for me is great it's though it's the like if you're trying to get into a good mindset in the morning for me the using the hey whatever good morning is actually the worst thing because I'm so bad at calendaring that every morning I get you have no appointments today which is a complete lie this is my fault I'll serve is my fault okay so before we get into our mid show break just a little bit of news for the gamers out there for tonight I mean for most people that's all I have to say and everyone gets excited for tonight on Android apparently is getting even better not only is it becoming out or rather supporting new devices it also is getting a few new options one quick feature that much that many many people really want it is the much needed voice chat function so you can yell at the people that you're killing in about very vitriolic ways but of course but of course Sony's still not allowing people on ps4 to cross play with gamers on other consoles or other platforms but Xperia players are mixing in with iOS and Android cohorts so that's great but you know sony sony is kind of in their walled garden still but it's the one kind of cross play that sony can't stop I just wanted to make that point that's all that's all yeah yeah there you go but in any case for any of you fortnight players out there it is getting better if you have a device that it was not supported on already I'm not gonna go through all of them but your your device might be supported by now so all of the Xperia devices are actually getting it from the X is e to the X es xz1 and X e to potentially the X e3 which was just announced at Aoife which I'm a was able to take a look at yeah so we have we have for tonight getting its much-needed updates that exceed that eggs e3 is so cool it's it's so hard to say their names half the time but I actually like that phone like that sure you want to go and record saying that I'm not gonna do like you can watch my review of the egg z2 and I'm like it's a nice phone but like it looks obsolete and not the case here like it looks it looks like a pixel to excel from the front it looks like an experienced e2 from the back I like it that's just an ear well until you look at you became Tony what do you mean I would have to change this photo by the way like Tony and I know Tony has far better English than that but it's funny because every time we're together we talk to each other in Russian accents so his fake is loving me and I forget well you know wait since we don't we actually don't have a mid role for this episode we don't have a mid break with an ad reader and whatnot so why don't we just jump right into a couple of check-ins real quick I made some thoughts from Aoife some hot takes from what is I'm never gonna be able to say what Aoife stands for but some hot takes from Berlin International funk international folk a sterling do it you do it Jules international phone call sterling Berlin thank you very much mentor Michael Fisher God out of all out of all people know it was great to hang out with Fischer was great to hang out with the group kind of difficult because obviously I was there alone most of the time I miss you Jules like seriously like well I mean like did you get at least take a few pictures up on the fence at home the furniture I did but there it was all at night because I had a video to edit so I had to be but okay so things that I liked about Eva it actually did a little more for mobile than previous shows I like that blackberry used it as the show I like that honor had something I like that you know Sony also did something like I felt that something like I felt that you know that Samsung wasn't really missing I wish that it was a crazy year relatively speaking for an ephah mobile kind of thing like nine phones in the first like the we had a day - one in addition to add a zero at that show it was weird and then LG came up with mid rangers for me honestly I think the highlights were the axon 9 Pro oh yeah as baby because fun fact I had actually seen a very early prototype of that phone and I was like what does it have to look like an iPhone so these things if you can move that away and you can focus on the fact that we get another phone with more refresh rate on the screen that the the OLED is actually really good I feel that like I can't wait to think of it a try I've you move away from those things you've also got the dual drivers on the audio so that's great but for me honestly like the coolest thing about ofoh was that Nubia alpha like like brandon reached outs of it he's like dude go look for this thing and I'm like what what are you talking about he's like this was just announced and this and this and that and I'm like but I just met with ztm so I totally forgot that Nubia detached from ZTE operationally like four years ago and so mutti still owns a little bit of it but mint but the company is separate so I went to their booth I wish I could've touched it I know that it's not gonna work I know that it's gonna suck but if they are but if they're bold enough to launch that thing I'm willing to give it a try and just prove how much it sucks while I still use it yeah there you go and and it's still a concept that I would love to see happen cuz I remember way back in the day I did I did a thing on the lobe and and that was an ePaper bracelet which to me it seemed like a perfect idea I mean I was a pebble user so of course I loved eating candy paper but so I mean I would love to see like this full wraparound concept happen where the most of it is a screen yeah I don't want to remember at Neptune that had like also had a camera I was like he responded line the pine that was trying to be the you know the full functioning smartphone on a watch but it would retain that traditional watch form factor and didn't really well well it was supposed to like transform into different form factors or something like so I feel that there were a lot of cool things that you know probably don't fall in our scope but they were so cool like that project throw knows from Acer that was like a really cool product the project throws like that laptop with two screens from a sous it's funny because when I looked at it I was like but then you know I actually started playing with it and the whole concept this is not that stupid it's actually it is if I'm if I'm gonna have this like huge trackpad like I do on this MacBook Pro might as well add some functionality you know yeah exactly Brendan had some thoughts about watches now that we're talking about what we saw it Aoife in terms of the newbie alpha at least but what did you want to talk about when it came to watches yeah so I have a very complicated relationship with watches and I want to hear what you guys have to say about it I'm not sure about Jules's history with smartwatches but I know Josh and I may have used many and used them on a regular basis so back in the day I was so excited when I I used smartwatches from the very beginning because it just made so much sense like why should I have to pull my phone out of my pocket to action on a notification to read a message so SmartWatch was perfect and then they brought dictation and scribbled to smartwatches so that it just became easier and easier to do text input and so it was great because like I left my phone in my pocket most of the time and phones were getting bigger at that time and I just wore a wristwatch and the and the watches got longer with battery life so you would charge one time at night and it would take you through the whole day but then something changed I'm curious if you guys had a similar experience I got slack and then I got hangouts then I got WeChat and then I had I started to have to use facebook Messenger boy Josh requires facebook Messenger to talk to him and then I got inbox and you know I was I was just doing something driving or playing with my kids and buzzbuzz buzzbuzz buzzbuzz and it and then I thought like this is becoming a very push style situation where everything from from my phone's going to my watch where as I want it to be more of like a pull relationship where it's like okay I want to see if hai Mei has messaged me I'm gonna go on slack and see what he's saying when I'm ready to do that and so I haven't worn a SmartWatch in a very long time I used to wear a pebble because that was probably the least intrusive watch I like that one the original was so good and they're so good see in the time steel or whatever they move it yeah yeah one of the few people who have the - I actually have the pebble time it is yeah the time the Rhett I would read one I have the so what kind of relationship do you guys have with your SmartWatch oh I'll give it I'll give a quick answer okay so I have the me been three here okay and one of the reasons why I even moved from the pebble to the me BAM three is because the tools for the me band are really robust there's one particular feature that I love the most about it there's there's a certain setting in that app called me ban tools where you can set notifications to come in it'll vibrate based upon parameters that you give it and that parameter is one simple word ISA my girlfriend so the only time this goes off is when I get a message from my girlfriend that's at that level of customization is exactly what I want out of a SmartWatch where I can use it not as a place for me to do things with notifications but as the filter for it so yeah if it goes off that means I get the phone in that respond now the the thread of the different notifications that it should vibrate for has kind of grown over the years it starts with ISA and then after that it's like you know mom dad you know I think I put a couple of you guys on there at some point but you know I'm making it I'm making it when I started here I definitely put high me and brand in there because I was like we can you talk about the podcast and like it but in any case yeah I can change that thread anytime I want to only be notifications that I want how about huge bills cuz I'm gonna hijack it after that oh yeah well no I was just gonna say that I used the LGG watch our for time and it's still over here at the contacts yeah yeah heavy-duty watch I recently the most recent watch that I had after a long hiatus off because again those charging pins decayed was the LG watch sports the latest one out there I originally sent it along with an LG g6 - Adam diode for his birthday and got the watch back because you know he wasn't using it and there was a reason why he wasn't using it and I could see why Android wear 2.0 was shall we say crap it's oh yeah I do want to know yeah go ahead and have to announce something first up go for it Jules so someone is actually in our super chat on YouTube gave a generous a little little portion and it's Peter hatin longtime friend of the show who had a couple of questions about phones so sorry to take it away here do you think that any of the flagships we saw this year could actually compete in the market as interested as we are in them so any of the more obscure types they are not Samsung or Apple or do we even have some confidence that the novelty phones will even work out no for one for one simple reason you are using the Polka phone right now Jules if I'm not mistaken and the biggest problem with that phone which could sell like crazy is that it's missing not only the band's to be used in the US but it's also not even available in the US availability is the biggest is everything yes yes yes that's that's the problem there are some really cool phones in China that technically work here but they don't work here as they should officially they're not yeah work it's hard for me to review the polka phone because I can't even use it on LTE so yeah I mean if anyone's wondering where those were that coverage is that's the reason why but but anyways going back to the topic of smartwatches so here's the thing Brandon I I have been a SmartWatch user since the first generation pebble it back in the day I was like really into fitness and so I had to use this like chest strap in order to be able to calculate my amount of calorie burn and so for me to move from that to a SmartWatch was great it was great the problem is that they you know smartwatches aren't great there is only one SmartWatch that I would say gets it right gets most of the essential things of a watch right except looks and it's the Apple watch series it's the ugliest we're SmartWatch you could ever buy from a visual perspective but it's the most useful it's so one thing that I like about the concept of the Apple watches you can you can put on a bet you know rubber bands on it go for a run and it's it's got a great GPS I think the GPS is ask accurate as the phone it's that good the antenna it's really good it's uh it's it does great power management management when you're training you can actually run a full marathon and you'll be you'll be fine and then things like in the in the case of fitness like it was the only one that had its own built-in services so the biggest problem is like in the case of Android wear let's move over to Android wait why does Android wear suck first of all the operating system is just terrible the notification services are terrible and then when it comes to fitness like google fit is the worse there it's just the worst like it's it's got this mode for like situps I'm like I'm not gonna spend 30 minutes doing situps you moron but I think you need a six-pack I want want modes like weight training and the cycling and I don't want a push-up mode why doesn't me just why do you guys even train do you even lift go go then then when it comes to Samsung and and so here's here's probably the most important segue of why smartwatches suck the problem is like Google does something really good which is like like voice like walking navigation if you or and the Apple watch also does really good with that but the problem with like the galaxy's the gear watch is the galaxy watch for me these are the better-looking ones these are the better material ones but like it's always this walled garden of it has to talk to Tizen or it has to talk to Google or it has to talk to the Apple watch and here's the thing like companies like Apple for example or Samsung will not give you the same experience if there aren't apps written for it so you'll get notifications like cropped up but like if you want to interact with whatsapp on the Apple watch forget it it's it just doesn't work it has some functionality but it's really about it's it's like if they try to force companies to create apps for the watch and know this is why I love the original pebble because nobody had to create anything for it it just works it's not like they're trying to get companies to make watch apps they are wanting company exactly exactly exactly but it you know for me I think that the I think the companies are going in the right direction when it comes to fitness in the fact that fine let's let's stop trying to reinvent the watch if we're not gonna make a Rolex here let's try to make it a really good fitness machine but then like third-party apps get it wrong with the exception of Nike on the Apple watch and so we're going through this period where we this is like the fourth generation fifth generation of that of the SmartWatch and companies are still experimenting with so many things it's really hard for me to sit down and recommend them that's the problem yeah like I'm very clear to everybody you don't need a SmartWatch you don't it would be really cool if you got one because I like for example having one watch served me for sleep tracking having that same watch just swap the bends use that watch as an elegant watch and then swap the band's again and use it for training but have it be just one watch in in the current state of Android wear forget it like wear OS forget it that is not the watch for you the gap the galaxy watches is closed it's just there there a lot of things in the in there software just not the best for me honestly that's one is still the Apple watch and I hate to say that but each other look at if you don't work it's you got to look at these watches from an ad-hoc perspective because that's exactly why I stick with the pebble and the me bands for one particular reason the strongest vibration motor because this is what wakes me up in the morning that's all I care about have you ever used an Apple watch no of course not the problem here's the thing about it it's not even a vibration motor it's that taptic engine it's like if it's touching your skin and nothing here's the vibration oh cool like so here's the thing everybody can hear this watch vibrate if I'm using a stainless steel band the galaxy watch but if I'm using the Apple watch it doesn't matter what band I used nobody can hear it and remove it and the moment that it starts vibrating in the morning like it's so good like it it's just oh good like the stupid elemental things are gotten right Apple I hate that you told me that because I never knew that about the Apple coolest tap it's the coolest engine ever and I'm telling you I could use any where OS watch and I have them all I can use any of the galaxy watches and I have them all and I will still drift back to the Apple watch it's funny because people are like wait a second are you reviewing an Android phone and you're using an Apple watch I'm like yes if I'm at the gym I will go back to my Apple watch Saturday Big Apple is on the YouTube chat so tell us how you really feel about smart watches I feel that I want I would love for another company to get them right and one of the other one of the other users said rip wearables wearables I wish that Samsung got it right because for me Samson does the best design by well I just wish they had got the software better and the rotating bezel is so good yes but see I see this is one thing that I loved about Michael Fisher's review of the first generation Apple watch when he was still with us where he was like okay this makes no sense like why is it that I have to use the road.the the rotating crown on the Apple watch but then I have to interact with the screen why can't I use the rotating crown and just press the button whereas this button search for me to use Siri which I'll never use or to or to launch an app launcher which I will never care about like it makes all the sense in the world like in the case of the rotating crown I hate the fact that I have to rotate and then touch the screen and the worst part about these watches is because of their power management being so bad you have to use even if there's an always-on screen you can't really use it because it'll kill your battery quicker and so you you're walking around with this like switched off really smudged out watch that looks terrible and I hate that I think that we have very many unresolved issues from this discussion so what I think they should do what we should do is wait until next week because we have actually a special video podcasts lined up for you next Friday oh yeah yeah with the Qualcomm events that's happening on September 10th you Joshua and Jaime are gonna be there along with a couple of other guests Danny wing it and believe in Devon is that right or no way oh no John Velasco actually John I made John Velasco and any wing it that's who I am that's what we have scheduled at least well yeah this is one of those awesome opportunities where I as JV and then Jaime as Jaime and PocketNow are going to an event together and you know so of two different entities in a way kind of going but it's gonna be so cool because the last time there was a new processor for smartwatches with what was what two years ago almost three years ago so I'm really looking forward to see what we get here yeah for sure waiting for 42 seconds more like 14 seconds yeah 42 split the difference 28 all right you were saying that the battery life on where devices is bad with you have always on display on right yeah I found the secret to fixing that a long time ago you can keep always keep no no no keep it on but turn off tilt to wake yes yes so I always on display on took to wake off I tried that Brandon so we go back to we go back to the most elemental basic thing when I do this I want to see the damn time well you have always on display turned on so you see but it doesn't really like like or if I get a notification I just I feel that companies should work harder and getting that right and that's another that's another one of my gripes with Android wear and with one or less and this galaxy watch there's only one company that gets that tilt awake right you know which one it is Apple Apple I see these these are the stupid things that I hate to say but it's just it just is the thing I have to give them props for getting the stupid things right which are the reasons why people either love a product or hate it I hate like this morning I was cycling I was training and I kept trying to see how much my calorie burn was because I always said like a goal of burning more calories than the amount of time that I'm training dude I kept doing this on the watch and I kept getting notifications and it just yanked me out of the app and so I got like really like common sense man I feel like we could we could and the podcast right now and that would be a great place to do it but we do have one more big topic to talk about speaking of Apple we'll just skip right over well that's right ask max plus names it's gonna be out $700 $900 $1,000 maxi-pad oh well that's the thing that I want to know that's a different day that's twelve point nine inches Oh God okay okay we have hopefully Apple will continue that momentum and get Hymie still saying I hate that Apple did it right with the watch but we're gonna see how they do with the phones and I do okay plug for fur from my video on pocket now about the rumors about the iPhone so okay so clearly Hymie covers all of those stories on the daily so it's not like I'm trying to jack the daily or anything like that I'm just I'm very it was a great compilation then oh thank you I'm just I just want to be able to recap the leaks and the rumors that have come out maybe like a week before it so I am going to do one on the pixel three as well all right but this is the thing uh I'm not the kind of person who likes leaks and rumors like I tweeted out about I had tweeted out the video and said hey everyone it's a new world and talking about leaks and rumors and we've we've mentioned him a few times Fisher like responded said I can't I can't fave this I can't I can't hit heart on this tweet because I hate leaks and I'm like I agree with you but you know what like I wanted to have a constant show on PocketNow and this is gonna be what it is like I'm embracing it I'm embracing it and here's the thing I mean if you think about it this is the way Apple retains the spotlight for the rest of the year it's called leaks and rumors the iPhone excess is gonna launch and there's a fire truck coming sorry about that the iPhone Xpress is gonna come out it's New York jewels put up that photo he made it oh and guess what's gonna happen the moment the iPhone whatever launches we're gonna start hearing rumors of the next iPhone yeah there that's this is the way the industry worked it's hilarious but the best-selling iPhone for Apple for the longest time was the iPhone 4 and it was because it was the most heavily leaked and I think that Cupertino realized that leaks aren't necessarily bad yeah well that event is coming up on the 12th okay that's time I can't believe that yeah and unfortunately for whatever we might have planned I'm not gonna be there I'm actually I did not know that the 12th was going to be the day for it so I'm actually off to a family vacation that has been planned for months this is the thing like just just a small behind the curtain Brant that I've always had in this industry no matter who I've worked with I always hate that the invitations for things happen all right right after the the price for flights go up you know it's like they know this it's like they know to do that and then you know whereas I could have bought a ticket to New York for $1.99 off now it's like $400 no it places it pisses me off because usually it's just ten days at most flight it's not just the ticket prices but also like we have other plans like I don't know how you know you know single youtubers do it because it's one of the main reasons why I'm just so happy you know Josh that you join them and then we continue working on adding more people to the team because it's very difficult for just one person to cover all mobile technology and everybody wants to steal the spotlight from the others so I just recently got an invite that I can't talk about yet but that invite is happening pretty much at the same time that I had already committed for something else and so what do you do like those plane tickets are already bought and stuff like that and so what do you do you have to pick and I had already picked and so you know I and they were like oh so I wish you could make it and I'm like I wish I could make it too guys I mean you guys should talk to each other it's like they three a FIFA you know this Josh where every company wants to make their events on the same effing day then all of them want to make their parties at the same time yeah very separate venues and Berlin is huge and it's like COD companies just come together stop trying to compete with yourselves because that launch time yes it's relevant but come on yeah help us out here for just like we really want to do our jobs and cover you guys but if you guys all pick the same time it's like really or or or pick like so you know in these cases like Fernando Levin I'm sure there are no plane tickets anymore yeah that's true it's getting pretty tough there have been occasions where and I think it was for the original pixel where a company actually changes the date of their announcement because of another company's announcement I think the original pixel announcement was going to be in September a few years ago but then the Apple announcement was it was going to be in September - so they pushed it back to October and then that kind of stuck now we see the pixels in October usually yeah okay so back to our story there's really one like we've we've looked at all the leaks we've looked at all the rumors already personally I don't really care like I would prefer to be more surprised at the event or during the live stream but I'm okay with looking at them now because they are interesting so you know I'm not that salty about it but when I am selling I look too hard otherwise you'll get sucked in yeah never be able to get back but you know what I am salty about is why why max why I this is just I've never liked the word max as part of a phone name you know you don't enjoy the HTC One max no it wasn't didn't ZTE make like the grand X max plus or something [Laughter] remember I'm pretty sure that was the phone like that was the name that was the name for it yeah but max why is it Max Plus was fine yeah it wasn't even plus it was the plus symbol so the word mercy Max is short for maximum which I phone 10 maximum this doesn't like Mac what what is maximum about it I don't anything it's gonna be max I mean I I gotta go more for the rumors of iPhone 10s iPhone 10s or iPhone 10 iPhone tennis and the iPhone 4 the other one I mean they already did it with the iPad where they removed all monikers they did it with the MacBook it just called the netbook yeah you know so I feel that the it's you know names just get really stupid and people just lose the whole concept so it's just you know yeah but how about this other leak here that may or may not be true and you know I'm gonna I'm gonna just say on the record here I don't think it's true because I've been to China in the weeks leading up to an iPhone release there are always mock-ups and there are always like plastic dummy phones that look like this so I should say the story title on this one is little off because this is a single camera the 6.1 inch version of the iPhone that's coming out this year it's gonna be the most affordable and many analysts including vinci quo have said that it will come in multiple colors so i wouldn't be shocked that this $700 iphone as opposed to the 900 1000 would be getting multiple colors we're sitting seeing a couple of those right now with the whether they burgundy and blue like that blue personally that's a case i would get for a black or white phone it's also Apple you're too late you're two months too late to freaking Independence Day so darn it and I totally not notice that I just I wonder what these people at Apple like the pricing people are like you know we're making a phone that's more affordable like really like $300 less that's nothing like but anyways I think that if okay if the one thing that's gonna pull me out of it because like I've only really watched one or two Apple announcements for new iPhones and whatnot and I'll always remember one of my most retweeted and liked tweets was that comment that the Apple watched the series one that was like $17,000 I was like that gets you three units and university like this is ridiculous this watch cost more than an education at this point and I remember saying that and then it got retweeted a bunch and there was one of the most viral things I've ever said on Twitter but the for this announcement if the word max does come out I'm out like I guess I cannot stand that but as far as these phones go like my question here is why would a phone that is potentially gonna be called the iPhone 10 have only one camera isn't two cameras like the standard yeah but remember that the more affordable one is gonna mimic the iPhone eight for example like a smaller that's the whole purpose of it so they can't all be called iPhone 10 then is what I'm thinking yeah there's gonna be AI 4 so the rumor has then iPhone 2018 would be the base model and then the two others will be iPhone 10s or as I'd like to call them if you like if you end up cutting yourself with one of them and you you hope that you don't get any infection the iPhone tetanus what hey that's that's interesting one of our that was a good that was a good shot one of our lives that commenter said the iphone air and you know what at this point why not well i am as far as my plug goes for my video i am going to do my follow-up pretty soon just sort of recounting what you users wanted out of the iphone your wish list i should say so we're having direct conversations with you guys that's that's the one thing i wanted to get in on because jaime does a great job on the daily recap but let's see here sorry keep going I'll tell you later yeah exactly I made just got really excited something that's really exciting you can't all right well we're gonna we're we're going to end this with one fun story even though we've had way too much fun on this podcast we're talking about University credits huh you know speaking of university apparently over in university campuses there's a bit who wrote this this is another why there's another one in a series of stupid surveys the first five words we came across a stupid survey or we come across the stupid survey but in any case in this in this case you know for academics apparently galaxy users are the most likely to have a first class honours degree what 28% of them reported in the UK by the way so that oh yeah you know yeah every University so much yeah but apparently for uh what was the metric for iPhone Houston's for Apple users again I'm trying to find it again yeah there there are many so Apple obviously the largest contingent in university this is a survey of 2000 post residents you know something like in the past five years or something like that Huawei owners were second most likely to go out and party drinking 2.39 the other week on average Samsung owners were the third most at two times a week and then iPhone owners at two and a half times the week they take the crown for party freaks so there's that you know what I buck every one of these trends cuz back in college I I did I want to say I did an equal amount of partying and studying which is to say not much and party for you because I was maybe that's why I didn't get invited to many boys around from being having a blackberry was a fashion statement well you really wanted to cook you really wanted to carry that thing well partying for me was like house parties I didn't really like I don't like clubbing personally and house parties were always my favorite thing and you know what and you know what if you asked me what like a good time is it always will involve eating like that's just that's just how I am and I'm a good time served when it comes to clubs man I don't want to see him anymore Brandon what fun were you using in in college or in university as this article statement I was using a bunch of obscure windows mobile phones that I was reviewing at the time so nothing really that interesting like as using some what's that brand I'm eight I was using some I made from oh but that was HTC duty kidding me that was great yeah so mostly HTC phones that okay one really remembers the I made the qtek you guys really want to ask me this question yeah and I was going to yeah I was going to say it was not easy College oh my god ninth so bear in mind the year 1998 Nokia - 50 amps okay what look for it Nokia - 50 amps it was a it was a shoot ABS me meaning analog it was an analog phone you know you'll probably find at 2:52 like I've googled the 250 and you you don't really find that anymore but the 252 was pretty much almost the same phone that was my first cell phone this was a 1994 release apparently okay here we go another one so this one actually had a flip so that was like the first generation and they came up with another one so look for the 252 was it was it because it's not just the flip that you need you need to be able to pull the antenna out bear in mind you won't want to laughs if you wanted the phone to vibrate there was a special battery that you bought that had the had a vibrating that sounds like a terrible idea yeah and so that's the Nokia 252 so that was the second phone that I had but both of them looked a lot alike look at that box look at that crazy it was gorgeous it was silver was the best and so the funny part is that well aside from the vibrating thing and all it's just back then you would get charged if you receive phone calls and so and there was no caller ID so you would still pick up the phone and you know that that was gonna cost you a couple of bucks but because you were cool and to round us out Jules who probably was in the best position in college when it comes to using some sort of phone what was your phone in college lucky my phone was the HTC One m7 for most of the time there one m8 I was alone pocket near the Harman Kardon Edition which was like badass you know with an audiophile phone and I guess that kind of fit with me because I ended up going into college radio and that was pretty much the best year of my life basically I gotcha you are your producer extraordinaire 89 yeah all right cool well on that note thank you so much for tuning in this week to a really fun pocket now weekly it's great to have Jaime back and everyone in the panel remember the weekly is just as much a conversation as it is a show so make sure you make your voices heard either in the comment sections down below if you're watching the live or by emailing us at pod Kotori at podcast at pocketnow.com you can also tag the cast on twitter 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