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trying to record a show over here hydrogen infused water this is like h8 Oh tastes like water can the razor phone to proved to be an even sharper phone than before and then after that we get into a heated discussion regarding the Google pixel 3 which of course we have reviews coming in the coming days hello everybody and welcome to this episode of the weekly it is episode number 327 on this day it is what day is it guys it is technically October 12 right now because we were recording this podcast very late at night here in Los Angeles these guys are finally in my neck of the woods so I'm really excited for that so from Razer hats to pixel phones to razor phones and tablets and peripherals we're talking about all the things you wish you had when you were a kid let's get started and let's have a chat welcome to the PocketNow weekly weekly I just went to an official intro because he didn't do what well I would do it after the fact oh it's a podcast bro he put my podcasts I don't mind show apologize that's what happens when you are tired across the country and you've had you know what it for once you guys are in my neck of the woods because I'm always coming out to see you I'm at first yeah I've seen this is actually the first time we come to an event in LA yeah like seriously everyone everyone well I mean this is this is razors backyard so of course it would be here yeah they're in Irvine which you know it's a little far then I got make everyone go to Irvine Orange County so you know we brought that up already you're gonna set up here I wanted to set up my razor while we were here I already said yes so you've been using it yeah so Anna bong is basically going to be doing yeah he's basically gonna be doing an unboxing of that day do it yeah Oh stock go for it so some thoughts on the some thoughts on the event cuz have you guys ever been to a gaming first time I ever am in a gaming ok so I have yeah you definitely have yeah I did razor was raised her at PAX when you were there oh yeah I'd they were so razor as is nice sheet on every single razors device telling you that you're welcome to the cult of razor course you are for the price you paid you should be there is an entrance fee and that's what it is of course isn't this the cheapest like computing device that they have though pretty much yeah Oh computing yes yeah computer by net peripheral services pretty much uh like a sharp dude I I really want those like razor-mouth mice and keyboards man the reason the reason makes okay look I've been doing gaming gear for a while the two that I gravitate to our razor and auto said yeah parisa stuff is great and Sam Sam is all razor I cannot convince him to go anywhere else as he has a keyboard mechanical keyboard I think that's the Huntsman he has the mama Mouse he's got he's got nothing Firefly he's got cuz use of the wildest pad as well they have a solution where is truly wireless interesting um any charge it recharges on the map for you so you don't have to plug it in at all what's the what's the keyboard named remember this is a huntsman no the huntsman is a nothing okay that's one thing razor does they have way too many like accessories and I keep I started which for me is admirable yeah I mean they started making a mouse and then they became the monster that they are oh there's Larry let me hold it my green yeah encased in encased in glass it's carpet guys it's carpet it's fine Q in the video of that guy that makes fun of unboxings there is a video I'll show it to you okay the guy so class yeah look it is a it's a pretty opulent like unboxing it this is very it's very razor like there's actually not much green on the box no no reason it's not because most of the new boxes now are black especially even on the laptops yeah so just just show you guys again it's black the lettering is black even though races color of preference is green like this right oh that so there's no there's nothing that says it's very nondescript image tag sponsored I knew I would eventually wish we do wish but at the same time I have to say when the when the swag bag came and the phone was in in a couple of other accessories for us to review I have to admit when I took the hat out I was like this is actually a really nice looking hat I could do with a smaller logo cuz this this does look like I got branded but yeah so that they've got some Razer stickers inside there's sentiment there sim ejector is actually really cool stupid things quick charge for Plus how many people that is the only that is the only charger unless you get it from Qualcomm which are the ones we got in Hawaii yeah there is no quick charge for plus and I don't think there's another phone that's compatible you know what it is I feel like quick okay quick charge for I remember we were asking them this at that tech summit last year asking Qualcomm that is isn't quick charge for basically just a co-opting of PD it's basically the same thing so because it's it's easy to use be seen honorable yeah it is but this four plus is different from four just apparently it is the speed of four without the overheating it's what they told me I got I hope so yeah it does a better job at handling and handling just to continue we have here the US by BSB type C 2 headphone jack with a built-in DAC so technically 24-bit by the way even though they provided the hammerheads right those are you know the hat but the hammerheads they provide it to so huh come in the blocks just because you got it in there oh no what I'm saying is like what I'm saying is like even though our heads are the headphones well exactly the Hammerhead headphones are USBC enabled so you kind of you're skirting the deck that's included in the adapter so I I don't know if they have my heads have Dax is that so that's the thing about it just to give you a quick educational standpoint on audio if your USB type-c headphones do not have a built-in DAC in there the audio sucks just put it that way which is why stuff like this especially that they have one built in and supposedly this is tuned by thx yep yeah he's also owned by Razer I found that to be fascinating yeah but the own thx like really it's like wow so my introduction to Razer was literally last year with the first Razer phone like yeah I had seen the razor blade but I you know for me it was like I was not a gamer back then I guess I guess it's the best way to the blade when it came out and it was that compact form factor to me it looked like it should have been called the macbook killer on I was about to say it's just one thing that I admire about Razer is they make really good looking products like that mercury finish on the laptop no they said the mercury finish is high made reactions this one here was oozing like I would have it I gotta have it like I will actually I I am willing its I'm willing to pay for it what a beautiful computer the base level laptop I was I actually had the listing on my phone as they were announcing it I was so close to getting because I've been in the market for a new laptop for the longest time I'm using a very old laptop not very old it's like two years but still when that is very old well what the it's almost two years I think but you know once the 8th gen Intel's came out I was like I'm outdated like crazy yeah yeah so I'm sorry by the way we are now onto braided cables USB type-c litter boxes would be really boring dude kernel style well you know what this is like this is super super comedic effect Scott is ejecting timing exactly and and as you can see if you can see here clearly it's got green colors in the USB type-c cables so oh my god that's true oh my god you know what these are so that unboxing video like the Verity is like oh we've got a little paper 20 things yes and then he keeps going we've got another paperclip again we've got oh we've got this amazing so I move with 2x4 three-pound style paper paper covering I'm trying to find a seam removal tool once I find it that would be next Oh what is it is it the snakes so it no no no no it's it's it's a sim removal tool that is lettered with razor there I don't know if you can bring that closer so there you can see I'll do a be rolled shot that is kind of nice actually yeah it looks like a paddle dude look at the stickers man Oh Oh was that my phone that was that was your pixel like try and I trashed my my razor phone really nice stickers here I mean this is pretty awesome and of course chroma stickers because of the fact that well we'll get to it so it lights up okay so yeah so and among he's gonna set his up I kind of wanted to set mine up this snake logo is multicolored 16.1 million dollars I was a cult what do you call this a holographic it's a little hologram those are only me the actual oh yeah this sticker I want to say but chroma like weren't there people in the in the gaming / computing industry who are kind of sick of RGB everything at this point I hear it from a lot of people but now okay gay that as a gamer they all lying if you're gonna build a gaming PC this dnh your motherboard hmm you're cooling your RAM ya know my father my oh my my Falcon Northwest Ikki is red AF oh wow fucking north why haven't heard that in a while oh dude that thing screams oh sorry by the way welcome yes already lit will it there you go everybody start installing but once I saw that there were fans with RGB built in I was like are we really getting this far so my like my graphics card on that ticky is it's huge I forget the spec on it and it's just God just the way it glows and everything I'm like alright I can deal with this like I know I like it it's cool I'll admit it's cool but it's just kind of funny that they're injecting into so many oh let's let's think about this what other gadget has the amount of coloring and just no style so-and-so is super corny so so I find it to be fascinating the gaming products have adopted this mentality that they have to be colorful yeah and you know just opulent I like it and I like it even more when they don't look like Tyrannosaurus Rex in the case of certain brands like what's the one that Dell does so those those are pretty but but but here's the thing then I get it because you just need the thermals the computer needs to be large because you need the thermals if not the performance it's just not going to be the same so whereas razor razor has proven innovation when it comes to thermals particularly and compact form factors are really near specialty at this point yeah but also I think you have to look at the fact that if you're gonna build out right you build out a PC if you guys are builders out there you know quite well is that you okay sixes second side certain size you've got a see-through window at night if your lights are off or even if it's not well lit you can't see anything if you spend time building something right you want to show it all exact it's one of the biggest things you want to make it and like for me this is gonna sound stupid but one of the reasons I bought my first ever MacBook Pro was because the keyboard was backlit people don't remember like today it's like common ground for all keyboards to be backlit but people don't remember that was like one of the coolest things that Mac started doing first I guess I just live a rather solitary work life when I'm the only one in my office and the only one who's gonna enjoy it is me and I agree that that's cool there's nobody who lives in my apartment that works with me okay they only do other things we are drinking here only and so recently when Danny and I have been crashing here oh yeah that's right that's right yeah yeah I've seen your desktop it looks dope like it has great bouquet in the background when I was making my videos at your place it's just you know I probably the only light up thing that I feel like I would really enjoy are the keyboards where they light up as you press the keys so you can actually see yourself I love that that's great you know and then the RGB chroma on certain keyboards that's great and I guess what I'm trying to get out here is I find it a little bit ridiculous that even the smallest things are getting injected with chroma I'm not saying it's not cool I just think it's funny so have you done so one thing I'll say I know we're kind of spending some time here on this is that it's it's a key feature of this phone no it is is is and I want to see this here so one thing about chroma lighting as well as RGB lighting across gaming is is how it's synced so different companies SteelSeries has chroma on I'm not gonna so the RGB lighting on keyboards where they work they've worked with different gaming developers so your health bar is the very your f keys right and then you're also when you start playing a game and you get damaged or your key starts turning red and it just graduates all the cream and then not your keys now Razer does open all your RGB effects plus Philips you so if you go free loops you lights on your tables in your apartment if your character is getting shot everything turns red if you want to set it up that way see the usefulness behind that I love that that's great so if it's if it's being useful then that's great so think about it just with this even if you've never used all that you never had anything just hide maybe your keyboard we have a razor fold and it's it's sitting there charging with the chroma doc yeah and then the chroma dog that's going red red red blinking red light you came in and maybe you not paying attention because some you do something else is omission at you you got oh okay shit I need to do this that's the whole light but it's the whole I immersive idea of saying you've got more senses than just your fingers on a keyboard and by the way this is straight Michael Fisher territory he's like oh this is an LED indicator and that's the other thing yeah yeah which is the point I was the overarching point that I was making about the Chrome on the phone is that they made it useful so I'm I'm all in it's great it's a notification I'm not gonna lie like I'm sure that that met that that set might look cool I I don't think I have ever liked black glass Oh as much as I like this okay it's a slab of Onyx man it looks so I didn't look so okay as long as your fingerprint you know show you know okay Barrett no but it does a really good job like the oleophobic coating is really good so here's a bear in mind you know I got the razor phone one really late for due to certain issues I did not like razor phone one at all like at all I did not like that matte aluminum I don't like how it aged I just don't like how the phone looked at all it looked like this clunky thing I didn't consider it to be cool I obviously I come from the time of next bit so I'm like this is just a blown up next next bit Robin made in different materials and then the back is now aluminum and it looks really bad because it scratches really well really easily and so I remember when they when they showed me this in the briefing I was like alright this is a mo and then they flipped it over and it was just pitch black with the chroma and I was like oh okay I want that yeah and they were like yeah but but there's gonna be another version that's gonna have more source of one than another you give me more storage on that one yeah first time I ever want a glossy black back on a phone and you know what like you know just the final point on the chroma I know we've spent a lot of time on it but this this camera hub if it's ever so slightly raised off the table one is like this and it pulsates it's like having an LED underneath I know and I'm so glad that's kind of heavy notice but it's well balanced yes yeah like the iPhone right [Laughter] so if you get if you get an under glow off the phone I mean that's kind of cool too but the problem is the for the screen needs to be on for the chroma to work unless you have it on high power unless you have it on so there are settings for the chroma you can set it to whatever color you want and then it's also a notification light or you can just have it on spectrum which just cycles through all the different colors look can't you add it to for a notification with different apps right yeah so let's talk a little bit more about these other respects song here because I think that we all kind of agreed that this phone has a lot to offer despite the fact that you know we have a lot of really high powered phones out right now and this one is really trying to push the envelope in terms of all of the power and all of the specs four thousand milliamp power battery like really loud and clear front-facing speakers yes can you demo a little bit um you know so for the price we're looking at what $7.99 yeah okay for $7.99 you're getting maybe up to two to five hundred dollars less for this phone that has all the same if not better specifications than some flagships out there so here's the thing this phone is sadly not for everyone at least these are my first impressions why not because my god this thing is not small it is unapologetically large and designed for a specific user in mind true sorry I've got an update oh yeah immediately it'll it's got a software update immediately this phone is not for everyone there but there's this is not what they're trying to do like they were clear this is flagship gaming so it's a phone that appeals to the flagship masses because it's got new cameras and it's got things that people look for Anna flexure phone but it's also a gaming phone I get all these things the problem is it's not easy to handle it's not like I'm like like these are the moments where I'm like alright fine now I understand that whole purpose of iPhones having this like curve in the you know and the borders you know galaxy s 9 and that's night let's do the same this phone does not is not gonna be easy to carry in a pocket it's just not a practical phone to handle that being said I've heard no better speakers on a phone that being said a hundred and twenty Hertz true 120 Hertz on a display it's gotten over prime so you're not dealing with any BS like so when you have great speakers that are also water-resistant when you have a good battery when you have a good camera which in theory is what they're offering and I've already made some test and test came out really good um and you price it for three hundred dollars less than most than this ah so by the way I'm like okay - still worth $1,000 I know okay anyone knows I don't care what anybody sees closest phone worth a thousand dollars is the Galaxy Note I agreed like so that's the thing I mean if you give me a galaxy no 9 I'm willing to put up with the size for the benefits that you get with the phone yeah it offers a lot more but then if you got a phone that'll give you that pretty much all that with better speakers with a better display in when it comes to refresh rate and gaming and all this for $300 less $200 that's pretty much uh it's it's really hard to compete with this it really is and I'm just gonna throw it in there and then you can get all that with less size and more sleekness with the 1 plus 60 whatever it comes ever it might be at high for even $200 so it's a really hard problem no no I disagree and I'll tell you why tell me what so here's the thing that we all do as tech reviewers right we forget what the market really is it's called a market for reason and this reason why I like the razor phone one last year and it had issues is because when men went on stage he realized that there's a certain market for this phone which is reason why a soos yeah every time and whether it will gaming and even Samsung had to get fortnight yeah to say we have gaming cuz me knew that thing about it when he like if you if you remember the press conference for last year anyone watched it he talks about a game that had a hundred million users on a mobile game this is China now vainglory right yeah thing Louis yeah now think about it if you can only just NAB 1 million I'm not talking about like samsung numbers for razor you have 1 million if you eat into that market you become a mainstay yeah it's such a great business model and saying it's a great idea and and the reason I like razor is this if you if you've known razor as much as I've done is one of the things the razor does a VR CES yeah and you know this quite well come up we say is crazy stuff I want Prime I want project Linda and every year every other year one of those projects usually comes to life right in a sense this is kind of like one of their crazy project if you think about it yeah they are the first ones for sure yeah they're not a phone company but it also said we're not gonna skimp out they made mistakes they had issues but the second year began they said we're still not having to skimp out and here's the price you know and one of the things I liked that he said in the press conference was you want a notch you don't do that shit because you know what pixel three garbage and that notch well get there later we're gonna get there but he also talked about other things is like you know we got big businesses in size he said it yeah I like when you take what you have and you say you know what this it is what it is but because also the speakers are there for visas so it's not an engineering problem it's not that they don't have the engineering capability so what off they just they're not out for that yeah exactly you know and and I do like that then I think and you're right though it is for a certain market right it's not it's not the best phone to handle it's not the most economic but it's for a certain market that goes look I'm gonna watch my content I'm gonna game and I want the speakers to be nice and crisp all those speakers those workers and get it done and that's look if that's you that's you get what you want but I also think that this phone is it's the perfect phone for the moment because I think you can give some insight on this because I mean I were talking about earlier that the razor phone one came out it was a proof of concept let's let's put in those terms at least for now and it was a way for them to say like you know we can make this happen we can make a gaming phone happen it may or may not fit all users but you know people who really want to get into gaming this could be the phone for you and then since that phone came out gaming on mobile has blown up there's so many great games like Nintendo started making mobile games and it's obvious that there is a market here that people want to start getting into developers and consumers are like I'm one of those consumers I love I one of the only reasons I actually go for the bigger phones now is because I consume that much media and because I game that much so say here's the thing right and I've been waiting for this for a long time it's not the mobile games that I I really care about I'm a I'm a you know I was a PC gamer first yeah I have consoles and then this week even though this is not directly related but Microsoft announced X cloud now imagine for me as someone who enjoys PC games X cloud is basically the ability stream your Xbox level games on any device now we all know how good this because they pay for itself so you already on raise a phone you streaming now your halo all that stuff on here it doesn't feel like you've cheating the experience in some of the devices you've got better audio you've got 120 her display that is that's why it like for me I went okay as a gamer this is cool because now not just what they do somebody else has validated it even though they didn't think about validating it entirely and and also this goes to the point and in our in my own weekly podcast we talked about this myself Sam by the way it's also called the weekly the weekly I know yeah we talked about how there is a need for niche devices absolutely because I was a very good point because the idea of all-around premium does not make sense this is a gaming phone right now so some would would say the LG V V Series is the greedier phone greater for fair phone and everybody would say the note 9 is the the workers you know professional phone key to you know workers phone exactly yeah so yeah the there are many different devices out there that follow these I see your face that I mean let me give you the reason why that's true Michael Fisher brings a key to with him everywhere just because when he decides he wants to type something he takes it out to do it so hey it's a workers I still type faster on absolutely any virtual keyboard comfor dude it's not about fast talking about so a comfort what is uncomfortable about tapping glass you do it for absolutely everything else it's way more comfortable on a physical cue what are you talking about dude I started using tile feedback is somebody using physical keyboards when you were still so uh somebody's just trying to age himself here yeah no let's let's face it I grew up with physical keyboard yeah like I'm generally sure gotten how how comfortable no I'm not I was saying that they were uncomfortable I'm saying god I feel it the implementation so you can't expect to bring the the way software the way hardware keyboards wore ten years ago and just add a couple of gestures to it and expect like there can be better things done it's been 10 years it's been 10 years and I find SwiftKey to be far more practical I'm drinking hydrogen water he doesn't want any part of this car no but and I and I and I do get that but back to the point of niche devices I completely agree with that end you know what to add one more to that list the pixel is the Android users phone it's the purest the Android purest phone no that would be the one plus six yeah I would agree it's on there too it's the artistry Android phone no BS like stock Android pure as it is I think I think so much the launcher is a launcher it's not start yeah I would I gonna have a lot of comparisons but I think I think it's very Fred to say that it should be noted our comparison granted I have I didn't go to the pixel events as Google doesn't like me so maybe that's why you keep calling them out I Google actually stuff is pretty great by the way no but it would be nice to see the comparison between this and the 60 because the comparison reading this in the galaxy is actually to me personally is not a fair comparison to this device I mean a camera is solid they had many fits all things but there's one thing that I've always said Samsung has done wrong is that they always add things to Android that oh you know Sam but I think to the 660 and what oneplus is done with that device is is showcase the simplicity of what Android is they provide we're fine and still have a lot of things especially the price difference so um I mean I would call it out now that probably the camera on this is better succeed before we even get the device but I think it's a matter of usability function because this the thing we do as reviewers all the time we take one feature and we try to make that future king over everything else so I would love to see a lot of we're gonna do this comparison I probably won't but it's just one of the things I would like to see other people I don't watch it see how they view this against the 60 because it's a very interesting argument yeah that can be made right there okay well we're gonna get into this one right here they had the pixel in a second first let's get a few words in about our sponsor one of two this episode so look forward to that but let's talk about one of our sponsors all right so while they're loitering in the background there this episode of the pocket not weekly is brought to you by casita by Lutron today I want to talk to you about these guys they have smart lighting control brought to you by Lutron pioneers in smart home technology with caseta you can schedule your lights to come on at dusk so your family 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so just so you know it yeah you gave me this look like what happened ok alright so I know that this day I don't think there has been a more contested device so far this year than this one right here in your hands and I would know because I did my own video on the pixel on my channel and I was very surprised at just how many people were upset at me for liking it yeah you did a great video man oh thank you I I just the way that I thought about it was like there are a lot of hands-on videos out there there's nothing wrong with them I suggest they all go through the spec sheets and stuff like that why would I do the exact same thing just you know on a different Channel I thought you know what there are a few things about this phone I really like it makes me like the phone as a whole you know the ester flaws and maybe I was a little bit flowery in the way that I said what was wrong with the phone and that I didn't want it to straight up say eff this at that but that's not who I am and if you've never seen me on my channel before I'm sorry I'm getting this off my chest right now if you've never seen my chin I'll say it you have to know that I'm not I'm not a cynic and I'm also not a pessimist when it comes to tech I'm the I love everything guy so I accept when he's off camera though that's right you know he breaks things all the time I'm joking but like when it comes to the pixel 3xl I'm just like you know I get it I get why people hate certain things about this I agree in a lot of ways but you know just to give a shoutout to marques Brownlee who did a video today about it he's yeah as the video is really good in his case he said he's kind of numb to the knotch like it doesn't mean that it's not there and doesn't have to say it I'm gonna have to say it yeah right so pixal one was the most horrible phone that I like holding there was a thing about the aluminum finish and own and and it was just it felt really well in the hand and felt utilitarian and my case off yeah do it and I I just I hated those huge Chin's on the phone unnecessary they served no purpose the speaker on that phone it was horrible so here comes pixel to pixel to excel is what I did yeah and I had one without a problem without problems on the display pixel to excel I like for a couple of reasons the first one it was the lightest phone that had that size and so the weight distribution was just so well done it was so well executed that I could care less about the bezels at a time when bezels were starting to disappear on phones I could care less because it felt great all right pixel three Excel I've said it in all my I've said it all my reviews I don't mind notches I prefer not just over bezels I'm gonna say one quick thing I'm like I don't I don't like notches but I don't mind them okay there's a different thing alright here's the thing here's the thing finish because I will just tell all of you you're completely wrong and foolish well I knew you're gonna say that the problem is when you launch a phone I did scratch the damn thing damn it ouch oh well this is very raw podcast right you're unboxing his big Jan where is it it's at the top and I think it's like well figure that out I'm straight I'm sorry so this this screen is literally a design aberration and here's why so in the case of the iPhone for example no yes you've got that notch but let's just let's face it if you compare it like this not just like half the size of that one and then but then at least you've got the curves all around the screen being symmetrical there is literally like no chin there's nothing it's just that notch at the top so I'm cool with that I'm cool with the one plus six for example where the notch is smaller and then it's got a minimal chin at the bottom this thing has got a chin the size of Texas which I I am okay with it because it's got a speaker I was just about to say like I it's totally fine for you not to like wear those bezels are but when I state that there is a speaker there and in the knotch you have two cameras a sensor and a speaker that somehow I'm a terrible person because I'm stating facts that's a fact I'm not making an apology for it I'm saying it's there okay so here you're dizzy and here I go here I go okay so you've got a chin you've got a chin the size of Texas I'm just waiting for you to never said I never said it was yous got a knotch the size of Long Island yeah and then you've got two borders of bezels at the top with curves and then sharper curves at the bottom and then you've got one speaker that's larger than the other with a pair of cameras that it's like if they're looking at me with a smile and I'm like alright there is too much on the screen yeah I've never disagreed with that let him talk he's about to go off I know I just wanna say I've never disagreed with any point you're making and always I was just stating facts about what is that you in the bitter new in the visual effects no okay look notches are poor design right here very simple yeah support design I don't take that from you charge me $1,000 800 bucks to give me a poor design first of all if you're charging me $500 $600 I get it that is a market equivalent of saying common denominator when you charge me a thousand bucks when you try give me money give me design give me that's why look as you call Porsche design exactly like yeah so so what happens out what Apple did was poor design what they have done is laziness and where ever is that Google sees this will see this laziness because it is the same phone design from last year literally they just cut out exactly nothing truly and then you made your launch bigger for a reason right they look if you even made the excuse that there was facial recognition similar to what you have in the iPhone yeah with more senses I would take that as okay fine I agree but you didn't do it no wide-angle though fuck that shit because it's the same sensor size and I said it I'm sorry no no no but it's still another thing and it's actually it's not another thing it is just a camera hole that is the same size that you could have caught it down that's the thing it's not I get it but you just basically put two lenses on something that everybody has shown you can make it small and then you've got and then you've got the galaxy s 9 and note 9 whoo that I've had wide-angle selfies like forever ever that like you yeah you know you have just give me one selfie camera that's why did pop said agree with ya I do agree with that give me one selfie camera that's wide and we're fine I mean it'll make me look thinner we didn't everybody want but but this is what it looks like and then remember last year they took out headphone jack because they told us it was to make thinner bezels on what do I have look at that look at that stuff right there yeah so so I don't let see which is no this is the last design average just to go back to Razer right again I'm not disagreeing with I'm not disagreeing with anyone in the either so but this is why I would say to you I get why the people who got angry because if you look at if you look at razor razor said this is why we are doing it and then Google can't even answer that question you can't tell me that you cannot design you you bought up HCC's design apparatus and then you give me this hog partial shit and I'm calling that because the hardware is standard across leisure time where look you always go and we'll get to hardware in a second but everyone's gonna have a 45 or ladies welcome so we know that aspect about it they've done wrong via software that's why they're good at AI technology and stuff like that but for crying out loud if you're going to mesmerize people it's gotta look good this reason the galaxy is good there's a reason the elite one plus six is everybody's going gaga because little oh yeah right that's what happen you saw the links of the opal or the 18 yeah your drop no it's not even a teardrop it's literally just a camera oh-ho exactly that's it and then and then and then this room of the as tab which is basically under the screen so when you give me this you don't you don't know Google marketing when you want to sell something fast your fanboy base you've got to give people the even even Apple understands that as much as I don't like that that not that he did but they gave I mean they give no but they also gave me an aesthetic there was the oh we have all these sensors for face idea and all that when you use face idea you're good if I'm fine you did that right and it makes sense but then they also said this is the aesthetic value of it you look make some bullshit up that actually makes sense not run a pest conference and you cannot even state why you have stupidity with a unibrow that is what worse than dead bird on Sesame Street like that to me is and some people will watch this and go why is he fretting about it it's a not it doesn't matter it's because it is lazy it takes away your screw real estate and go watch my gaming video and see how much your screen shrinks when you actually play a game because there are a lot of apps that haven't been updated to fit this but you know they haven't they they haven't been updated thirty fitted knotch this large no these haven't bolts again it doesn't even matter even if it does because I was doing the math and going it was still even if you expanded it out just like with the iPhone there's still part of your screen real estate that just disappears no matter how you look at it yeah now it's just deeper longer and super like you know you need to go get you know your brows done type type of stuff all right I I'm out now tell me what this looks like super thick bezels no what do you look at it what are you looking at now I mean look at that phone you're looking at pixel to excel you're looking up yeah so if you do the hide the knotch thing I was on the developers ooh I don't know man I mean as I said make the pixel three pixel two again so I was regretting I was design though yes so I was regretting grabbing the large one instead of a small one I think that fish will grab the small one right Fisher grab the smaller one and I was like shoot I should have grabbed it because I okay so the point that I was trying to make is I don't think I've ever been annoyed by a notch in my life until now because just it's not just the notch it's the whole bottom chin so badly done like the combination of everything and then the user interface like that that make notification it just it looks terrible it just it looks really bad but looks very badly designed it serves no purpose well let me tell you so here's the thing and and I love that that David went to that whole Bron thing with dieter Rams so with dieter Ram is Peter Rams is one of the fathers of modern design admired by Jonathan Ive and you know a lot of the current incumbent designers and dieter Rams he's got a couple of like principles for design literally design has to disappear thank you design has to disappear it has to almost feel undesigned it has to look so logical so practical but you'd even question why it would be design any other way and so this is this is obtrusive this is it serves no that and then the other thing is design has to serve a purpose can somebody give me a purpose for this damn thing super dodge and and I just want I just want to reiterate that obviously the way that you use something is going to color the way that you feel about it overall yeah when I see that knotch I did I see I do see ugliness I'll say it it is ugly it I I like with it I'm okay hiding the knotch but also let me tell you something about this hiding the notched okay this when I was with Michael yesterday and I hit my knotch and I put it up next to his smaller pixel three it's the same exact phone this one's just bigger bigger so if you're okay with the small phone then you're okay with the big bezels just say okay just say anyway I when I see the notch I'm like okay could be better but you know what that wide-angle camera that is right there at the top I'm using it all the time and that's the reason why I like this one yeah so me liking the wide-angle camera somehow made it so that me liking this one because of that very specific thing all of a sudden I'm a notch lover no no question not a question I'm sorry I have to really get out I've been dealing with this for two days I have to say for example that somehow there's OLED panels really good because that it's blacked out it's it slacked out to the point where you have you cannot tell that it's a screen and not a bezel sorry that it's a right that mmm but has anybody noticed is LG still manufacturing the XL variant or is it now just the Google apparatus with HTC have you guys noticed that the curves on the screen are gone there's LG yeah but have you noticed that the curves on the screen are completely gone when compared to the flash I don't miss our ice we compress to the pixel to excel you remember those on the okay they're gone oh my god it's just sad it's just a different design just a glass on top yeah it's just not yeah yeah so I mean yeah no I mean I I just I personally do think that the phone is still priced lower than a lot of thousand-dollar variants out there by phone 10s how much again 800 it's eight yeah it's so it's 800 which still makes it a little bit less than the other ones and it could be lat it could be lesser than that I agree but still less then you know and if anybody out there is that mad at the knotch the note 9 exists enjoy yeah okay no listen I'm gonna stop I'm gonna stop throwing trash at this phone and say the things I like about it order it in white in white so it's got this like panda effect would like the black USBC port and then the black screen the black bezels is there supposed to be it feels it looks really good it feels like ceramic like first polish like the polish that they did on the aluminum is really good and I love the finish at the back of the glass I - yeah listen III looks really it not it doesn't not look cheap it does not look cheap I bet the screen is badly designed but then everything else about the phone looks really good it looks like everything else looks cohesive it looks as it's where it's supposed to be those things are good the speakers are great they okay the speakers are great the screen is really good says the guy who's tested every speaker okay look look I'm just gonna I'm sorry I just have a caught you there they had nice speakers but pixel speakers have never been looked do you 12 speakers you 12-plus yes much better yeah the eraser oh no no notice not as loud still better Galaxy iPhone no this is not as bad okay your compared to the pixel to excel no no no no I'm just saying the current phones I really I phoned you 12 plus zz3 again uh v40 oh yeah yeah yeah g7 g 7z louder I will necessary okay it's louder we say that it's not a bad speaker just not the hyper well so let me ask you this though $800 is that $800 basically paying for a plane shoot camera no is no but here's the thing like remember that we're still we owe it to Google to run this phone through the whole process of a review and you know part of our commitment is we have to you know we right now we could only provide first impressions which is what they are yeah I can answer this question no like we can't provide like our final opinion over the whole experience and if it's well yeah I know that's which is why we can't go there yet yeah which is why we're expounding on no no I don't so I think I'll add this to this is that I think the problem we face not not the device and with all the device because we just talked about the razor phone right and we just talked about we've talked about the galaxy and stuff it's it's a we live in a very weird time because if you were to do the one-to-one calculation right and I would say this this does not compare to the razor for just on the pure one-to-one what do you add cuz you know we can argue there's a chroma lighting these days you know I'm just saying that features right but that doesn't make a phone really for any specific individual because it's it's very different true that's why I say we live in the way we're time because we passed the time where before it was if you threw the kitchen sink and it was a thousand nothing was before but say was a thousand with kitchen sink you go yes is a thousand kitchen sink in white please say thank you but we don't live in that time anymore because um there's preference and there's also certain things right you've got an experience here that is close to stock Android you know and you've got the AI additives which not I would say most people dust don't have and then you've got a camera like you said a point-and-shoot it you mentioned yeah right that is because because with other phones if the camera is let's say subpar or not amazing it's something we could look past but when it comes to the pixels it's called a pixel for crying out loud when the camera makes the experience so obviously when I pick up a pixel just like I did with the pixel 1 a pixel to that camera makes the experience yeah that's the reason why I feel the way I feel so I can look past the other so questions cuz I haven't seen anyone and maybe it's just reviews or whatever how is video on this because it speaks of to video was trash I didn't think pixel to video was trash I didn't think pixel to eyes only on the front facing cameras I think it was like hey not great pieces of video for me audio was not good it was better for me than most other phones the only one who didn't stand up to was a Samsung inside of Samsung or LG I did have an OD at the time and the video quality for me was not good I haven't tested video yet just asking what I find is that the features of video on a phone because I already have slightly lower expectations for smartphone video compared to my DSLR compared to even let's say a GoPro 7 yeah so if the features are usable to the sense that they're reliable then I like that so if I have a niche or a specific shot I want to get I'll pull out the phone because I know it'll do it well yeah slow-mo on the pixel to more reliable than any other slim theories are that for example reason I ask is because my mindset is always is like as we asked me anything else this is the camera everybody has you know whatever you hold you in your hands camera so for me when when using the pixel to my issue was the OASDI ass were not talking Turner they're not yeah they were never talking to even there's more shakiness on the pixel to than I remember but then I then I wanted the pixel yeah I did and then the cuz there was no is on the pixel 1 it was only working alone and then the the when I was recording in low-light the amount of grain in the video was just no but you have to understand like because of the size of the sensor to it it's physically it's nearly impossible to get better video in low-light get that's the right problem you put one and ask you for one you did it yourself no it's it's no no but that's what it is he doesn't I don't literally literally no smartphone can can can account for that no no no no I grade you on what you did and and where you price if you wanted to get better you can change the sensor it's not me I'm not the one fortunately I know but the thing is literally no smartphone can account for the noise that happens no matter how many cameras oh no I know I know I'm just saying that compared to its competitors with its pricing was and who was going against like even the iPhone as much as even I know like iPhone is that is that the iPhone just did better in video okay so that what I've seen it's like I'm looking at are going I hope being proved I would my missions just from 2 to 3 I want to just listen we wrap we can't really dive into that because you grab grab my Galaxy S 9 plus video my review um what other review know I have I have like two or three reviews he's million the words that people cannot tell that part of the footage was filmed on an iPhone 10 on again oh I see what you mean yeah on a gimbal no no I have to say this like king of photography well we still need more time with the pixel 3 excel we still I still need more time definitely but king of video I mean give me all the arguments you want about LG they've done a better job with their sharpening on the v40 the sharpening on the V 30 and every previous one I don't care how much of a pundit or an expert you consider yourself to be the video was trash the video was trash on LGB 30 LG be 20 LG be 40 got better the the processing processing yeah no no that is like for me I don't I could give to three rats you know what if you've got manual controls or great audio those things are great those things are secondary of the quality of the video is trash then so vana said he did a special one I shut an HDR oh yeah it's really bad and so V 40 is significantly better than V third but I still give the crown in video recording to the iPhone sorry wrong wrong wrong I'd the iPhone does a really good job what would be your favorite the galaxy I'll take them the s9 bus or the note night it did do a pretty good job you did the Milan videos in in the galaxy s night and I remember I did well then you say the b-24 I did because I was what we were using yeah yeah see the peach what no how was your experience I have it I have honestly no I have to say I've used the galaxy for comparison purposes and stabilization and this and that but I've never really used it as a as a vlog the reason I liked it is because also the audio and you've got quartered you've got yeah that died yet front 4k hey primary for the way that I vlog in the way that I it's the only fun it does this by then yeah for the Hawaii that I've vlog in the way that I record a video I actually put the note 9 in the pixel to kind of kind of neck and neck to be honest because the galaxy the galaxy note 9 does have better audio and it provides more options but the pixel 2 is literally they take it out hit record and I'm good finally which is what I always enjoyed about it but it had like I don't know if we're still missing a software update on this phone or what but you've noticed that it's just 1080p it would like 4k at 30 yeah yeah yeah no 4k at 60 no no even if we've got the snapdragon 845 which is capable of providing not enable there's probably gonna be an update that's that's why I was asking like obvious you know what they did the other thing that I was saying earlier that's nothing was I don't use like we don't have enough special spec sheet yet exactly there are still some things I have to be ironed out here with my abilities like the capability the kid the chip has the capability it does the chip has just have to enable it they just have to enable it for hey at 60 is not there it's not there it is it is missing I mean the it can do focused CC can do for cage TR it just depends on what you want to actually exactly perhaps maybe third-party apps from the Play Store would be able to tap into that yeah probably not yeah you have to actually exam us be enabled first and which I think that I saw some sort of update will will be happening later on but but the thing is like I don't use 4k 60 so I upon amuse 4k 60 like it it provides like so long as you've got enough light because obviously it's the reason why I don't use it because obviously it kills it like you need more shutter speed eh phones are really bad at like a 4k at 60 at daylight like for handheld shots it provides so much smoothness like it is so good like and and one of the reasons why even if you've got like for example things that disappoint me about the v40 you've got four kids 60 no stabilization no civilization and the video and then when you do have 4k at 30 wit stabilisation there is so much war penis while you walk that it's like God guys you had one job and that's the thing about the v40 that I've been learning after using again thank you for letting me use your yeah unit by the way is that each lens has a purpose but everything else is turned off like the whiting goes fixed focus be zoom is fixed focus the front facing camera the 90 that the 10 extra degrees which i think is ridiculous is only really for photos so there's no way you're gonna use it for video so this is to be it works in video it does but i don't like it with the v4 this one's much wider let me just say that yeah do you fare with the v40 and I'm not going to mud dissing Qualcomm here but I think this is just me speculate there's no pure scientific inside is that I don't think the SOC is ready for it can do three lenses I don't think it's ready for three lenses may be some difference see because if you think about say funny yes that it's true so I remember the 820 was the first one that allowed dual cameras yeah but it wasn't fully yeah because you think about even like while we 70 which the p20 Pro runs and has three lenses what about that necessarily one runs is monochrome and strictly more so basically it's it's not all working yeah exactly switches to do monochrome and because it tells these monochrome mental you know done and the other two lenses are doing what it's then two lenses so and we also know with a lease with we don't with the rumors referred from 980 greater performance there which means it should land to be lenses as the rumors up sure yeah no so that's why I am going maybe LG in a sense is to the detriment is like you try to jump ahead but the SOC is just not ready just like in the case of Sony where they do that play with RAM to be able to give you 960 yeah totally you know they mean like so she's not capable but they push it through RAM Samsung does the same only and you know what we're getting there and obviously we thought that the smartphone industry was like stagnating and it really was a year or two ago but now we're getting to a place where things are happening that make me excited for what's coming next no and and I think well who was I talking to about this I was like we got whiting on the front finally now the next frontier is OAS on the front that's why what we had well may we had it would be HTC we had it wasn't white no no it was the HTC One which one sure am not the previous pretend on before the intent and yeah PA did but it wasn't why they were going with beer ultrapixel en yeah I was the problem I was a problem at that one yeah no not not that wasn't wide I mean wasn't as wide as you would probably like which is what I mean this is why button but it was the problem with the quality there was the fact that was ultra pixel not it wasn't look if they went with this wide Europe probably going like okay this is you know would have been so into a complete bro be like okay maybe well but it's the same company its HTC better direction with better direct and I think that I think honestly there are growing pains obviously I mean we we had a whole heated discussion about earlier like there are growing pains but we're getting there and again I'm excited so let me let me continue praising the pixel stupid little things what look at this so like when you that's right and so when you press the power button the clock automatically lives so it looks like if there were like it looks like if it the you notice how always on this place are like you turn the screen off it's completely black and then boom it seems up the always-on display it's seen this is like seamless like it looks like if it it looks like if the screen never really turns off yeah it's nice actually it is sweet like the user interface I I like it like I have no complaints over Android P and just the the whole approach that Google does so okay so here's the thing we render it be that I have liked it still needs some tuning done it so I'm not a fan of new OS okay this is interesting so nine to five Google published the dirty word Android wasn't set a single time during the Google pixel three of them interesting well that lends to the whole that might lend to the whole rumor or not remotely some of the prominent of be the next version of OS that Andromeda Drummond is madness all right fuchsia fuchsia so it might be the first it doesn't roll off the tongue as well hmm it doesn't roll up it's it's a drama fuchsia fuchsia might be still internal name but it's the a way of going so remember so this was happened with Google right ah Android as soon as a name was owned by Samsung this time when people bought an Android phone Allah go you got a Samsung you know you see that he had a Samsung before that I was bought a roll oh you've got a droid right yeah he's refused yet he had a droid and then something to go over because he had an iPhone or droid iPhone or Samsung yeah and but the one with Samsung lasted for quite a while and they had to try and get that name back yeah so the pixel brand comes into play yeah but I think that because of fuchsia coming in they're probably vocally trying to take away that naming process so that they can switch over which is something Google tends to do okay they tend to leave things that they create and move on to the next one nothing that they are not focusing on developing this but maybe on their own the PR side on the name inside of the device it going okay might be a little bit different yeah might be time for us to move away from this all right well my it might be time for us to move away from this guys we've gone for a solid hour I think we've done it and you know heated discussion do we provide a final verdict on the razor phone no I mean we can't no no not a review verdict but I like it I mean I I down for gaming man that's why one for the Exxon when I look I want that controller razor was the name of that right you right you put a ride you ride you that yes to ride you it's a play on the word no it's not as you hide you thank you and what said something else I would bite you was that's a that's a drink right so hide you yes yes I I'm looking forward to gaming on it but razor you need you need you need to make sure this controller gets in the hands of as many people as possible so that developers can start making games that are geared towards the controller and we can start getting games like first-person shooters on the on Android and iOS yeah has to happen because as of right now we don't have certain game genres that are prevalent in in in mobile gaming because the controls suck that's one thing and then the second thing is like I get it fortnight is awesome like all these games are great I need one of these games that I don't need to be playing like I want to play on a plane and single-player games need to start becoming more prevalent yeah yeah I mean I there's enough storage on the damn phone for me to not have to be permanently connected no I I do agree with you guys I think I think it's it has to be a balance of both be better got the single-player games I am just excited to see more chroma no I mean more yes all right I did joke around em I said you guys were pretty tame you didn't put chroma lighting around the whole of the device but you just put it there these are smiled and said you know what we thought about it but it's okay you know III want to see that make sure of gaming where because like I said I'm really excited about X cloud from Microsoft well NVIDIA has their own cloud services and the fact that like a device like this the the razor phone and I have a ride you with me right whether it's on the plane and I'm playing the single-player game you know I'm good or the fact that I've got fast internet with gigabit LTE and I can play a first-person shooter I can play Halo I can play you know Tomb Raider whatever the game is off my phone and I think that's the thing that I think the next key factor that this device so you know we've always said that we've got computers in the hands but let's be honest right we don't treat it as computers in children has high level personal devices that have great performance yeah not computers the fact that I think when we get to that point where gaming Plus even VR like those kind of things where you know what you can either buy a VR headset or you know what your snapdragon powered device or whether it's your carrying power device it's powerful enough to give you that VR experience you always know that's where you go I truly have it in my pocket and I can actually but and I think what is the devices like razor because they've gone to add you know the display the audio or even even our special devices like the iPhone or the galaxy where we know okay fine it's preview yeah you're spending the most amount of money I think that's when the justification of some of these prices where just because an iPhone is a thousand but I know that iPhone can do all these X things for me then I go it's worth my time alright fair enough now for the last five minutes there are a few other products that we did see at the pixel event in particular we were talking a little bit about the accessories at the razor event so we kind of covered all of those the the chroma wireless dock we're all looking forward to messing with that I'll tell you that much yeah but speaking of wireless chargers there is a new wireless charger that is supposed to go with the pixel it's a companies the pixel the pixels stand oh I haven't haven't pulled it out of them neither have I and but this is the whole idea that Google home is supposed to be prevalent across all possible products so what you're basically doing is converting your pixel 3 into a smart display of sorts and of course talking about smart displace there's also the Google Home Hub so I thought that maybe for the last five minutes of the show we could just give some hot takes on the other products no the home hub for me was particularly I thought it was bigger like it it's yeah all of you away he's tiny I think you know what happy no when I looked at it I was expecting something like the Lenovo one and then when I saw it I was like that's cute okay so here's the thing I small it is I think Google just didn't say it but they wanted to at the Google home ad the old version is dead and this is the new Google home 145 bucks it's very easy to get it's literally the price of a Google home now you've got a screen you've got everything no no I I mean look I ordered my big soul yeah but I I am very disappointed in the screen size though I don't know how BIG's asked me know it's like a 7-inch tablet would like a doc in the back yes I mean I don't know what the I don't know what the screen size is and I didn't do no is it small it's all in the lenovo is definitely smaller and I'm disappointed well cuz you use the lenovo as a literal secondary screen yeah yeah and they're whole the whole idea behind the presentation was that you're using the hub to activate other things like chromecast yeah what's kind of their main thing yeah um you can play YouTube on it no no I know I get it I just just put a Crean in your kitchen and cast to it and that's it no exactly no no I'm thinking let's see this is the problem we need to have a show about techies and consumers and why we don't think like that I tried not to think like myself because what I can do I don't need any of that shit for me that's how you can convert into the kernel no I totally agree with you just saying that's what they were saying I do get I just don't I personally don't even need a screen I just need this you know I love it I really bought it but but when I put the speaker I mean the nofa one in the house I'd go oh great cuz I did a video in my video was all about being making french scrambled eggs and watching the step-by-step process you needed that no it was it scrambled eggs II know it's very different but we're just watching the process right is it's an from 7 inch or whatever the screen size for home up to this one is is it different thing and for the consumer that's my own concern usually if you have a bigger size the problem but also it is it is just big enough that you can still do those things comfortably yeah no I like it I want one I didn't order it but I I'm gonna order it definitely did you open your chromecast of course I did okay it's in the back so what's what's the update on this one cuz I didn't pitch I had no idea fabric like the the design no idea yeah they really didn't give a whole lot of a whole lot like refresh we've updated to match everybody else kind of I now remember what you wanted to talk about the buds that came in the box with the pixel so look forward to an actual review of the buds that come in the box because I was excited when I saw the league cuz I feel like the only person that actually liked the pixel buds when they came out yes yes I think you like him more than even the Google employees yeah I actually like them now again again the usage of a product colors the way that I view the entire thing were they comfortable no after about an hour I wanted to take them out every single time they would never stayed in my ears tomorrow but let me say that the way Google assistant was implemented in those is the way it should be in every single headphone that has Google assistant in it well but now they're doing it like you have that integration and for example the LG tones like you didn't you don't need wires for the bows so I was gonna ask you so but it doesn't have that integration I don't know it doesn't have that integration and so a question do the Sony's the Mark threes have it its job those triggers it okay so literally when you press it becomes like a walkie talkie to the Google assistant it you don't have to wait for King yeah the reason why I don't know this is because when I got the the buds last year I tried to send it out myself Zack David and Fisher tried to set it up with three phones and it didn't work and I could only completely trashed eventually recent I set it up and with the pixel - yeah oh really many imagine set up with you with the the galaxy so you should try and the audio have everything was or have they sent you the LG tones the new platinum the new platinum is easy yeah okay try the Google assistant on that I it's so cool like it's little it's probably what I was like wait a second so I thought it was just the button where you call on the Google assistant and that's it and I'm like well we've been able to just press and hold on the icon X 2018 then just call on Bixby or whatever but this is an intersectional intuitive way of doing it's a different approach can you explain it yeah basically whenever you get some sort of notification on your phone you can set up which apps it gets it that that trigger it yeah Google assistant will chime immediately and read to you immediately what it is that you got a notification also so basically it's closer to her right the movie a little bit yeah all right all right yeah and so for example if I get a message from one of you guys on messenger it'll go notification from messenger in a bomb Baba okay and if you wish to respond press the button and I go boom and it goes would you like to say and I go nobody goes got it this is what you want to say bubble but would you like to press the button boom it's not this whole voice-activated Android auto typing that I despise yeah where it's like do you want to send it or change it and I'm like send it what would you like to say send it it's so it type scented and it ask again would you like to send it or change it I get that they wanted use that as a different station point and Google if you're watching this you probably are because you're watching don't pocket now know my channel don't make it a differentiation point on your product this has to be standard but it is so here's a thing I don't know I know I use and that scones you said on the tones but wait JBL cheap yeah yeah but I'm saying it like I don't know about the mark 3 so I'm gonna test it when I get to the when I get to the hotel because I brought my mark threes yeah but like if you get those LG tones platinum se yeah so I tested them on the gallon though I didn't test them on the Galaxy Note 9 I tested them on the v40 work just fine pixel to XO work just fine because this is a back-end that's built into Google exactly and so actually okay okay so you have to download a version of the Google assistant to the tones so it's got like its own chip it's crazy SH musician devices exactly so it requires certain hardware from the device also it shouldn't probably have at least two buttons to to make those yeah definitely but no like it was I also I I was like so first I remember when I activate him for the first time and they're like you need to activate the cool assistant thingy and so I'm like yeah so I went through the process and then it's like updating firmware for your tones and so you had to keep them connected and keep them closed and then boom it threw it in and then it reset at the tones that it started in boom like immediately I was like I just genius I should give you one more user I should give you one more usability feature is the volume up button when you hold it it will read out every notification you have okay and then you let go whenever you want to stop listening to it don't ask is this bad news do you guys think that Google I think oh I personally think but what do you guys think about this but should Google take especially with assistant because I think that's their best operating system right now Chrome no I think that's their best under system do you do you think they should take the same approach as Microsoft in making sure that it delineates across it so EMS Windows does it perfectly Windows on om especially now is the same across the board and I I think this is the best operating system because Alexa is coming for them really bad it's coming really strong pressure really Reba because because I was on those we don't have a traditional ways or we have a future OS trend and they are making sure is everywhere so if Google goes look we've got a phone OMS and the phone is in every hand we gotta make sure that yeah that's a good way that's a good point wait wait a second since you mentioned Chrome OS lots on the pixel slate hot takes cuz we got a yeah I love it that's a big old screen it is a big screen I can lay this the back is terrible it is so fingerprint prone oh really it is bad I heard that the folio case it's not completely flush like it's got this weird sort of like give to it when you close it it was okay it was okay like it was like the Galaxy Tab s for okay unless less bulky I can't really give an opinion on it because I actually have never used chrome OS extensive know so I've been using the pixel book lately thank you whomever sent me the tip on Twitter whoever you are you're you're sent from God to remember a name by the to to remember how to figure out how to remove the caps lock from being the launcher that's right I mean I've said that literally broke that literally fix my experience with Lois ever since then because I was like it's a frickin caps lock key board how is that the launcher don't reinvent the wheel they did that's what they did I mean you've got the dysfunction fees I was like why this is why I don't use grab-ass uh so okay so the whole locate so I am NOT a fan of Chrome OS I love that you've got a desktop browser on it i I just I I really wanted a good iPad alternative I feel that Windows 10 is is great it's just I don't know it wasn't really even if it was they say that it was design it wasn't I feel Chrome OS with this update that's coming on the slate it looks more like a tap friendly operating system that can still do multitasking that can still do Android applications um I liked it I really do like I just can't say much about using Chrome OS honestly that's all really hasn't take a look at it I just think the pricing is - I what was the price again look if you want to get the i7 you spend a thousand bucks yeah no no and that's the problem like Google you really haven't under ball port so I can put my GPU I know it's got its good but it's got some but it's not Windows it's got two USB C port switch is a first on a tablet it was got more more than the surface one more than two more two more two more than the surface pro that has none because it's a USB a yeah so I don't write myself right come on no no I I I have to say I'm not I'm we need good competitors to the iPad we just do hundred percent we do I mean I can't believe that the iPad still continues to be the tablet I drift to simply because it's the most well executed tablet there is I mean I mean III do hear you coming from somebody and I'm from that segment that doesn't give a shit about tablets iiep rely on tablets and everyday I know that's you know but like I I know and I and I do agree with you I do I do hate the fact that Google slept on and also just and our towers it died that I grew gray windows was never really meant to windows were meant for touch not tablet functionality but just touch and and that's fine with me like I think that's fine I think that was it I do agree with that aspect that Android tablets if he just needed one solid fine tuning and then moving and they just never in true Google fashion just let it die and but I but I am I the only the only thing I have to say Google um I am expecting my my pixel slate and I will plan to use it just do yourself a favor just you know you your feet just set them on the floor this is not a $1000 product it's not mm-hm Chrome OS it's not a $1000 product and on that note as the camera runs out of SD card space you're seeing some black space right now as I do the outro for this long episode great conversation between myself Jaime and thunder I over here that's it for now the weekly is just as much a conversation as it is a show so make sure you make your voices heard either in the comment sections or by emailing us at podcast podcast 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