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the 50th wedding anniversary is often referred to as the golden anniversary or at least that's what my married friends tell me well we're not quite at fifty years yet but we think 50 straight episodes of any podcasts is worth celebrating and we hope you do too welcome to episode 050 of the pocket now weekly the once-a-week podcast from pocket now where we discuss smartphones tablets and the state of mobile technology in 2013 I'm your host Michael Fisher editorial director at pocket now and today I'm joined by the two guys who helped me kick off the pocket now podcast and who run the show editor-in-chief branded minimun Brandon about to be a daddy minimun welcome to the show good morning yes I had you forgot to refer to me as the editor and beef every excuse me yes I'm sorry I apologize there's going to be a mini minimum and that the third voice you heard was managing editor Anton honorary Englishman Nadia good morning to you cheers ain't nobody got time for that he you've been spending some time in London recently Tony oh yeah are you tired of the place you're looking forward to going back I'm always looking forward to going back to London it's it's an interesting place I always wonder how I get back to Romania without being dead because look left look right look both ways then you know what screw this i'm not looking anywhere and then screw it i'm just not crossing any streets true plus the jaywalking kills me yeah i was just gonna say you don't you don't have me there to walk you through the american art of jaywalking so people actually laughed at me when i was waiting for the light to turn green so you can spot me from a mile away I'm the guy that stays here and waits for the lights turn green yeah Brandon are you going to are you going to teach your child how to jaywalk um that's not the first thing I'm going to teach they in the American tradition in New York yeah it's just uh oh it's a thing do you got it yeah you have to do it and what usually happens is every time I go to New York I'm amazed at and curious as to why people are walking so fast everyone's walking fast and then the light turns red and that they they walk through the light and I'm thinking well you know if this guy's going first he gets hit first and I just you know I just yeah you got him as your car sponge yeah yes car sponges I didn't know there's term for that oh yeah I was like bullets punch except you don't different we've got one announcement to get through before we hit the thought thread and that is that something we alluded to in the intro this is episode 50 and so we're doing a giveaway yeah there's a link in the post at pocket now if you're listening to this via a stream on youtube on youtube or itunes or any of those other brands like they have a choice I know Oh visit the the podcast posted pocket now and you will find out that we are giving away an lg optimus G a what does it Brendon and gently used Optimus cheese all right barely used fairly used yeah this is the if you go back and listen episode 28 this is the after mystery brendan thought he was gonna use as his daily driver yeah yeah cuz really see how about we make it a special edition is there a permanent marker to sign Brendan minimun on it on the back I wondering about that should we audit yeah get him a silver pen right away I don't know no I just ratchet in with something yeah just get a paper clip and just I'll put a dollop of blood on it you know if we're going yeah pierce your pinky but anyway that it is a like new phone ran and used it for I think about what about 45 minutes before you got bored of it and we really like it it's been used in a number of pocket now pieces so with that and improves the value or not is up to you but the details on how to enter on the post basically all you have to do is leave us a review on iTunes for this podcast yes it has to be iTunes it can't be anywhere else just because that's the push we're doing now and yes haha itunes giveaway equals android phone we know weird but all these hills are either at the link and we are as usual on something of a time crunch because we all have things to do but brandon minimun has not one but two thought threads on this special day brandon take it away take it away well the first the first thing is just a thought iOS 7 beta 2 came out and there's something that I realized about it in Android and Windows Phone you get the permanent back button at the bottom of the phone which is super convenient especially with big screen phones because that's a gesture that's not gesture that's a an action you use all the time and it's really convenient to have it right under your thumb in iOS previous to iOS 7 the back button takes place in the upper left corner of most screens third-party apps first party apps they all have the back button all the way up there and it's never been that big of a problem until the iphone 5 came out where the screens a little bit taller and then if you consider Apple maybe one day doing a bigger screen to iphone which i think is is a matter of when not if that reach gets even worse but in iOS 7 Apple built in a gesture that allows you to swipe from the left edge of the screen to go back and it's interesting because it's in all the first party apps but it's not in any of the third-party apps obviously because they haven't been updated but it's part of the new API for iOS 7 and I'm just I'm just trying to extrapolate this out a little bit if you had a bigger screen died phone you have your all of your apps updated to take advantage of this back gesture it really solves this problem and makes it so enjoyable to use to go back um and so my thought here is that this back gesture was introduced because we are going to get a larger screen died phone you know that's a solid possibility I don't I'm interested to hear what Tony feels about this but I have always loathed the placement of the back button in iOS I've never thought that the upper left hand the extreme upper left hand corner is the place for anything aside from a signal meter I think I think to put a back button up there was stupid to begin with yeah it's it's like putting the browser navigation controls on the top of the screen on a tablet I'm forcing you to gorilla arm your way up there like it's stupid so I then I love gestures so I think I would very much enjoy using that Tony what do you think and I had no idea I stopped dang apples movements the moment I said there won't be an ipad mini so no dots here smart choice but would you would you like it though would you use a back Chester I mean more often than a button or do you prefer you I prefer a back gesture or or something similar on the note too even though I know that the no 2 has the back button but it's slicker you know just swipe you don't have to move your thumb to the lower part than then up again yeah well but it's so easy Turner just pop out the s pen press the button and draw an arrow I mean isn't that just so much from so much more simple if you have a second hand you can use yeah yeah no I agree i'm sure we'll have lots of those moments again at Aoife yeah I'm sure we will and you know we can't talk about the back gesture without talking about blackberry 10 and it's sort of inconsistent use of back buttons and back gestures speaking of which I should mention before you get to your second thoughts or Brennan i'm gonna be talking to some of the guys at blackberry today i have an interview with some of the ux some of the folks responsible for blackberry tens ux we're going to talk about the astonishing tribes so if we're going to talk about a lot of stuff so it's gonna be fun so watch for a piece on that tomorrow sorry to step on you Brandon I did some good speculation and I think it's a foregone conclusion will see a larger iphone i am gonna recklessly speculate unlike my colleague on that exact the Brandon's prediction is definitely valid but what if this is a feature which is introduced by apple just for the ipad and of course the iphone inherited what do you mean so like they targeted it for the ipad but the IV yeah just just like the ipad has that the detection of the eighth in iran the screen when you hold it towards the edges and the iphone inherited that feature then again this feature might be a ipad related feature so that you don't have to go up you can swipe and then of course in this is it's the same version ID iphone inherited you know I don't that's a good question I kind of feel like it started on the iPhone first because it's just that there is a bit of a problem with the iphone 5 and it's all our screen and and on the iPad when you use a tablet your hands are kind of usually neutrally positioned on the sides of the tablet and and I know Michael thinks it's a gorilla jump or whatever the heck you said to go to the address bar at the top which it is yeah yeah but the girl but that's that's only if you're in a state of like read only on your tablet your kind of sitting back and you know you don't want to lift your hand too far well yeah it's not just about lifting it's also about like obscuring your view of what's on the screen because you can't you have to do you have to obscure your your vision to do anything at the top of the screen I just don't think any control elements should be located at the top of a tablet screen at all you guys before the second thread just a quick question because I was in a cave for the past couple of days did you guys notice that iOS 7 has had gestures just like Samsung for for navigating certain aspects of the OS I think I sell a video this morning about that like what like yeah what like like you turn your head to the right to go back to the home screen or to the left I don't know which one it is and then in the opposite direction to select something what what yeah yeah yeah yeah look at that look it up on youtube there's a video I'm not sure who boasted it but I just realized it's under the accessibility options are you serious head gestures to control your iPhone head gestures this is from VentureBeat enable users to control their iPhones by moving their heads left or right married in the accessibility settings currently only intended for people who can't access iPhones on-screen controls sure sure sure uh fascinating yeah but they're not calling it out just like Samsung they're just leaving good that buried there for for those people who need that option for accessing their phones right right right right well I'm that's that's pretty amazing for whoa that's ability standpoint whoa cool assistive touch this might have been an older engines create new gesture costs custom gestures Liam allow you to record gestures that can be activated from favorites in the menu what okay i'm gonna make a new gesture it's an up swipe i'm gonna save it i'm gonna call it swipe this is weird I've never seen this before okay now what it can be activated from favorites in the menu what menu what favorites what big news stop the pressure throughout the run down we're gonna talk about this for the rest of the thing that's us very well I got distracted by it that's a Jim Cramer says that apple's next product is a clear loser but i'm gonna stream Kramer says that yeah I'm not gonna quote any more of that article because it's making me laugh too much what what is favorites in the menu to get can anyone help me understand where favorites are in the menu what menu I'm not gonna be rocking an iphone for another few months so i do not know i have an iphone but i'm running stock how you guys are lame yeah and then week anyway what's uh the cash we shall we shall we jump into the to the second thought thread ok you ready ok yes i want to talk about something personal uh it's potentially out of the realm of what we talked about here on a on a weekly basis it's it's it's a ritual a thing that we all do and we probably do it at least once a week I don't like the sound of the if not it's not if that less often maybe once a month in some cases if you know the situation doesn't present itself I am talking about what we do as geeky people technology enthusiasts which is take a trip to the local technology store whether it's a Best Buy or other and I want to know when you guys just for fun you're passing it you're you're you're you gotta pick something up but you're you peruse anyway I want to know what your experience is like like do you go to the phones first you go to the tablets first do you go and check on if the new 4k TV is and how do you experience a technology store when there's new stuff i'll pick Tony first for me it's an interesting thing I don't do that here and in my city but I always do that but I'm a brother Michael can testify to this when we were in Berlin and Barcelona last year we spent like hours in a superstore and start it regardless we start with TVs or CD players or anything we always end up at phones and we are comparing prices and look they got this no we don't have it that we do so yeah it's always an experience to see what other markets head yeah that is always fun right because it's the same shelves it's the same kind of decor in the store like all these stores that saying whether it's a Saturn in Berlin or a best buy and you know Boston like it's really really easy to tell when you're in a big box electronics retailer but the phones on the shelves are different it's like oh wow the achieve s is here this is cool I've never seen this you know whatever so yeah I don't know but but Tony you don't have any in in Terraria yeah we do but I know them by heart now you just never go yeah so that's what I was gonna say you know it used to be so exciting for me back in 2002 2003 when I was first getting into mobile technology as just a hobby to go into a radio shack and see what new stuff they have a what do you got it that's new and you know just check out the first camera phones hit in the market or whatever but now that we know everything and not just working for pocket I like I've ever since I started reading forums 10 years ago now that you know what's coming down the pipe it's so it's it's such a anti-climactic experience to walk into a radio shack instantly know that you know more than the guy behind the counter no offense to anybody who's working radio shack now and you know anything you ever get inexperienced and this is this is part of it we get a Salesman come up to you and they and they start to talk to you about the merits of like a certain platform in your in your and you're like you're like actually and sometimes like what they're saying doesn't make any sense and and you just want to be like I'm a professional phone reviewer and what you're saying is incorrect and you should be fired yeah it's just so funny when that happens isn't it and it is and it happens frequently too i had a yeah go ahead turn no i was about to say to you guys because throughout all all europa right where i went either on business trips or vacations and where i visited such such stores nobody just gives a damn about you and even you have to wait like 10 or 15 minutes to find somebody to talk to I said so funny did they just don't care well it's like the waiter thing when Tony and I are at and are all right eating and I'm like you know loath to to raise my hand or even your like eye contact is the most I'll do to get a waiter over cuz you know in America like snapping for a waiter or something is really rude but Tony's like no you really got to flag them down they don't care about you unless you shoot a flare off my god they don't want to bother you right that's that's it yeah it's so interesting in how that's different like in the US it's it's offensive if they don't come over every five seconds and ask you guys be offended if he came over and come on man i'm still chewing yeah it's so funny and when i was in barcelona i I remember like meet me and my wife we went to this tapas restaurant and like we thought the service was so terrible cuz this guy just like left us and wouldn't come back and we were like our sangria pitcher it's empty what the Ferguson it and like they're not automatically refilled what's going on yeah and eventually we realized you have to like you have to like poke them or clap or do something that's would seem derogatory around here but right yeah no it's amazing and actually it went bring it back to electronics retail when I was at next tell you know I think what there was some kind of rule it was like if in my particular store if somebody didn't come in the door if somebody came in the door and they weren't created within I don't know 15 seconds it was a real it was a real big problem like people needed to be greeted right away and he needed to make sure that they knew that you knew they were there would you know you're correct you are correct because a small correction to whatever I said it's valid unless you go to an apple store and the apple store regardless if it's in Europe or in the u.s. it's the same people come up to you want to help you give you information but Apple aside nobody gives a damn yeah so I it's it's wild stuff I love going into an apple apple stores for that reason because is when you go into a best buy in my case I've never really been in and and Taylor I wish Taylor was on the show to discuss his experience as a best buy employee but I've almost never been in a situation where I've had a good time at best buy i remember I've dealt with really informed people at least in mobile but that throws off your perception of the rest of the store to write because if you're talking to the guy in the cell phone section he's trying to tell you that you know I don't know that that a blackberry q10 runs Windows Phone like it's okay well thanks for your help and then you go to another part of the store and you're talking to another guy about tvs and i don't know anything about tvs he could be telling me anything and it just shatters my trust in the place and that doesn't happen in an apple store generally speaking and generally when i'm talking to an apple employee they're like yeah I know my foot I know my stuff and here's here's some information and then I'll go and verify that and I'm like wow no you are correct you are well trained and your friendly and well what a great retail experience so yeah thanks for reminding me about the apple store tonin cuz radioshack best buy and all the other ones that are now dead like Circuit City and staples which I guess is not doing very well come to us a compusa come today was awesome because him cuz that's the only place you could go and see you like every video card that has ever been created back in the day when you know when um there were a lot of differences between them and they weren't so cheap now there's still a micro center is still around but I've no yen one so maybe maybe I just surrendered some nerd cred but that's a really good question we should have it we should have a day you wish to have like a video series where we just each one of us in each of our respective cities goes into an electronics retailer and tallies up all of the missteps or awesome points I mean it's it's so funny because what's changed is that these stores used to be for these you know the the geeks and it's become like a consumer center right where where there are middle aged people and older people coming to get their new phones and they're they're looking at all of the different tablets in the confused and it's just been consumed Erised and and there's misinformation and it's just such a it's become such a funny experience bombs to go back to what I was saying so I went to my local best buy recently and I went I went to the phone section first of course because you know some of the phones i haven't played with yet and there weren't any there at the time so then i noticed the samsung experience store which is a new thing the best buy is doing where it's essentially a copy of the apple store within best by literally on the with five feet away from it and so Samson does not copy yeah it was what's the word when it's like ironic um it was ironic because you because here's a company that basically profited from copying Apple in the beginning and now they're doing it again by putting this this store and they're kind of making apple look bad because Samsung's got the cameras they've got tablets and smartphones and all these these cool things and it's white it's lots of white just like the apple store and then there's a dedicated like guy behind the counter who inevitably comes up to you and says hey have you checked out the new Galaxy Note 8 point out and I you know I say oh no just looking you know you got to try to sound disinterested as possible to get them to go the hell away from you um yeah it's true no just looking around thank you and time just for just just browsing and then and then yeah so they had the galaxy note 8.0 but what happens is that most of these devices aren't connected to Wi-Fi so it's like you can't even experienced them over the Internet um yeah oh yeah that that whole part of that all side of the experience is broken because like you pick up a product to use and it's like oh wow they have it live demos it's not a cardboard screen it's not a dummy and then you try and use it in either the stores Wi-Fi is broken or some customer has messed up you can go through the menus man right I know but right but that's us right I mean I just think of the plight of the regular consumer coming in here and being like how do I work there's somebody you know and I think the retail experience is broken in electronics in a lot of ways and the misinformation that you cite Brandon goes all the way back to like training I remember going to the carrier was sponsoring some training for third-party salespeople in 2004 or something like that and I went and I'm not going to say the carrier because it was hilarious but it was gsm carrier and the somebody asked a question because back then the debate was not so much like samsung vs apple or you know whatever but on the carrier side it was gsm vs cdma and somebody was like why why should i sell you guys over a cdma carrier like what's the technical advantage and this the trainer the corporate person from from this carrier from this gsm carrier who was hired to do this job spend about three minutes explaining how because cdma uses uses a staggered frequency hopping approach bits can fall out what ones and zeros can fall out of the stream as though it were some kind of river in the air and ones and zeros were plumping from it and a gingy ascend that didn't happen and then i watched the reaction on this guy's face who is like oh ok then double rainbow oh that makes sense oh they just made another misinformation carrier no you know what's you know it's also crazy is the lag at which information is is is disseminated in a technology store or even in society in general like what happens is um a new version of Android comes out new version of iOS comes out and we find out about it as it's happening and it's and our readers find out about it as it's happening because they're obsessed with this stuff but everyone out there in the world are still talking about the version before the last version that came out and it's like it's it's like maddening like um uh well you know my brother has an iphone 5 and I'm like he tried the iOS 7 what did he think about it and he and he doesn't it doesn't like I'm expecting his eyes to pop out of his head like oh my goodness a new user experience but he just he likes looks at me like okay yeah yeah no it is true there's a there's a significant disconnect there and it's the goddess fine i I feel like we could there's so much there mine there's so much there in that experience in that disconnect between the world that we inhabit every day in the world that the rest of the planet enjoys and it's something that we are I think we r do a pretty good job of keeping in mind when we're talking to regular consumers when we're addressing an audience but man we could have a whole show about this this was a good thought thread man good thinking i would like to have a premium retail store that I walk into and not just Apple products but everything and like oh you're going to take care of me because you only staff this with knowledgeable people and you don't try and do everything and you're not out of it yeah but I die I yeah it would be nice I don't I don't know if if this thought thread went as well as I thought I was I was just in the best buy the other day and I'm like gosh I really feel like a kid in a candy store right now this is this is like a ritual for me I I go and I see exactly the same things I um you know I i found the sony they had a sony 4k TV and like it was like a 16 year old driving for the first time i just stood in front of it like one foot away with my mouth on the floor just staring at this incredible because it's so rare to walk into a technology store and see something that is so very rare that you haven't really seen before and you know we were at CES and we saw the 4k TVs but to have it like in front of you well you can actually like stand in front of it without a crowd behind you it's totally different and gosh I just I don't I just want to talk about it anyway let's move on Hugh talk about no I there's that element to of that kid in the candy scores the store thing like when I go home I can't talk today because this coffee is so cold it's numbing my mouth I'm sorry but whenever I go home to you know rural Long Island New York I'm like I make an excuse to drag whatever family member I'm with to the best buy not because I like best buy but because I got to get that that technology fix in some way that I can't get when I'm away from the office and away from my 14 million loaner phones do you ever try to take your your girlfriend of the best buy and she or the technology store and she's like this is the lamest ever not my current girlfriend I've definitely a girl friends were like all right you you're gonna go somewhere else and I know you don't care about this but just leave me alone in my bath of glowing blue screens and it'll be great I I wonder what's the yeah that's and thats the thought thread for another week what's what's the next futuristic LED color cuz you know blues had a good run we've had 10 years of blue being a futuristic keyboard backlight let's change let's change it up so we talk about Android talk about Android boom google play edition galaxy s4 and HTC One are up for pre-order how about that how was out was that a man Tony yeah I inexplicably feel the same way I get weight and we've talked about this enough so we don't have to kind of like dwell on this I just wanted to note that they were out and yes we will get our hands on him at some point but yeah I agree like the skin is a part of the experience on either of those devices on each of those devices and I mean I I would be much more likely to buy the galaxy s4 stock edition I wouldn't be I wouldn't buy either because I would buy the carrier subsidized version and word it and now that the source code is out you can get the exact same rom on your phone without paying the premium but I don't like TouchWiz but i do like sense i think sense adds to the experience TouchWiz detracts from it at this point is I have the camera yeah well I wrote a piece I'm not sure when or which piece but I think I said the exact same following thing the HTC one is an HTC one because of sense and the same way the s4 is an s4 because of TouchWiz else they're just they're just felt right and you know what's interesting about and I didn't put the link in here is that they're running what what it's even supposed to say about this they're they're not actually running Nexus roms like the the colonel is coming for the manufacturer know what's coming to the manufacturer somebody save me from my from my wave out there there are a couple of tweaks because of course HTC One has Beats Audio and all the camera tweaks or at least some of them are included but you know what the interesting thing is that I just read a report that the samsung galaxy s4 Google edition will not get its updates from google yeah it is it's the it's the colonel issue here yeah they run mostly stock Android but they're doing linux kernel's provided by the OEMs true that is right Tony that is why there HTC can fit beats and they're still without you know that's not a skin level thing it's a kernel level thing all this kernel talks and making me want to bag of popcorn out of it yeah ah bring it a little jiffy pop sound effect there yeah but but so so I guess the question is if you guys were just buying a phone for you know you need a new phone um would you pay this premium to get these versions well before you guys answer let me just say this it's not a premium it's a premium for those guys who are girls who buy their phones on a contract like most of the u.s. people here in Europe or in my region or people like me who always buy phones unlocked it's not a premium at all so it's basically buying a 650 dollar galaxy s4 vs a 1 99 99 s4 from AT&T right that's where you see the premium but else if you buy them unlock their approximate let the same ok give or take a couple of bucks yeah I guess you could look at it that way and and and the fact that they're unlocked means that the resale value is going to be higher yeah well that's true too and you know that there's a certain degree of I don't know there's there's a cachet that these devices have by being Google Play devices not quite nexuses but they are funds that not too long ago we didn't think we're it existed or we thought that they were you know they were just vaporware and now they exist so yeah that might up the resale value some I don't know they're out there they're available for pre-order they're shipping soon you should get them we have relationships with the with the manufacturers closer relationships with the manufacturers than we do with Google itself so once the manufacturers get around to sending out demos we will snag those I think although what did we think that although the most of those hands on scan from google Brendan yeah looks that way yeah so another thing another another small thing to consider before we move on is that these devices are going to be slightly faster and have slightly better battery I send this stuff in the version from the OEMs but I'm not sure about that yeah because according to some comments and according some comments I think Anand tech found the opposite why that the galaxy s4 Google Play edition it has inferior performance that's according to a comment though that is not you shouldn't take that as fact that it's just what I read yeah so we're not sure about that will check it out what I want to ask you guys you remember that rumor that HTC might at one point make the google edition rom available for stock HTC One users they're not that I mean that I mean how would they possibly do that like have a settings that says restored a factor like on HTC dev heavy rom with lots of disclaimers popping up and making it available for your phone and then in another section you can revert I mean they're pretty much there right you can unlock your phone on HTC dev and then the source the actual rom is out there now so I mean I guess they've indirectly they've indirectly done it and maybe though the launch a new page on HTC dev for for instructions to make it like an official thing i will definitely flash that for a week and then probably move back to sense but from what i'm hearing the new stock version of HTC sends on the new upcoming HTC one rom theft and since 5.1 i'm not sure if it's 5.1 or 5.1 steroids but i'm hearing that it should be awesome mmm what is it comes out what do you know I'll let you know whatever i'll get back alright alright look there are degrees of awesome and I just curious if this is a high degree yeah what do after my hands on it the awesome after the hands on let's talk about a brand we haven't talked much about because we HTC and Samsung certainly see their their share of exposure on the Pocket Dow weekly and I want to talk about motorola for a second because we've seen a brand tweak and you get idly yeah you guys know how amped i get about branding and like it i it hadn't occurred to me that for over 10 years motor oil has been working with the same italicized all caps you know boldface branding which is like we're gonna hit you in the face with awesome motorola and hello moto and you know red and black and just you know nasty mean cool co first and now we have this the first indication that they are going to acknowledge their their kind of Google ownership their playfulness yeah it's weird how do we feel about this what we have the obviously the link is in the is in the post as always listeners but this is a much more modern take on stuff we have a much more approachable all lowercase motorola word it's lower case its sans serifs what yeah and it's got it and it's underneath it says a google company but how about that logo so there are there are several there's one with the rainbow colors and there's one with the purple right so the purple one is the simpler one they've just replaced the red with purple and it's the usual motorola batwing thing in the middle but the other one is is interesting because it's a grey batwing logo surrounded by a ring of broken up rainbow colors which evokes google doesn't this is an interesting blend of the old and the new because they kept the the bat wings which is I think Moe don't you know motor oil is one of the oldest companies in the in the tech industry and uh and and the colors are just it's playful it's it's like you know this is different this is more a little bit less serious I guess yeah we're like I don't know if less serious is what it is what it's late certainly less some it is this bliss bold yeah it oddly it's it's less corporate even though you know Google's a massive corporation I'm not sure I'm sold on the multicolored ring around the gray batwing thing Tony what do you think about it mmm do you want me to put on my European hat or my American pocket now managing it at your head actually I would like you to put on your Australian hat yeah I want your Fez on for this one mmmhmmm doesn't work that way what is it would but you keep your European head I don't want to hear your style opinion I don't care about Marilla oh sure of course but no you say you care about branding for a second what what women on that what would you mean I don't care about anything motorola later because motorola did its best to not be on the market here in Europe especially specifically in this region where I am where I am you guys need to know that whenever I go to Eva or mwc I can't wait to get my hands on the last year's model at the atrix because I don't see that here so they're not here I haven't seen them I haven't actually held a model I thought in my life so I couldn't care less about motorola now that i put my other hat on i think that this logo and this rebranding is is more modest it means less to me as as as a future possible owner than the previous one it does it's because it's not in your face it's not ballsy it's just it's just a slight modest logo that we are a colorful playful company which is owned by Google now so we don't really have our own mind yeah you know I I think that lack of boldness I think you're right i think that's that's what this certainly says and obviously that's not that's the obvious way to go because right it sounds serif it's not all caps it's not italicized it's not a big stamp but I don't know I I appreciate modernization when it happens and I think this is certainly a more bold step than than we've seen with other mergers before like Michael I think it's not whether organization I think it's simplification well I think simplification is modernization yeah if you're thinking windows oh yeah so what about this uh this X phone taking a high res what is this widescreen high res shots yeah so bonus edition that yeah that's the second part of the motorola news for the day the first phone presumably the first phone to bear this new branding is going to be this moto x and we'll talk about another possibility for a name in a second but yeah this we got a leaked sample image from not sure this came to us from focus on yeah the source who is picasa and the vias phone arena oh thank you I thought you said hey guys not picasa yes so that's where it came from and it looks like this is a widescreen raw photo so we've talked about this a lot on the show I'm dealing with it right now with the galaxy s4 active and the galaxy s4 cuz im using them side by side if you set those phones to full resolution you are not going to be cropped to a 16 by 9 aspect ratio you're going to be at four by three or if you're on the blackberry q10 I mean your full resolution you're going to be a one by one so you're getting square or nearly square photos which I don't like as much and I don't know I must be the only one because I'm the only one who ever talks about this but I can't stand that I like my photos to be wide screen and if you want to take a downsize in the resolution you can do that you can crop it but then of course you're losing some information but the thing is this leak damage from this motorola from this moto x presumably from this moto x is a full 10 megapixel image that is already in widescreen so that means what the sensor size is a different shape right exactly now the sensor size is larger and this brings me to an article which i wrote i think last year above the PureView technology and and the 808 takes either for by free mode pictures in thirty eight megapixel node or sixteen by nine pictures in thirty four megapixel mode so we imagine the sensor as a circle I'll write a post about it I can't explain this we need to write another post whether yeah the main thing is the key takeaway is that the marula X the alleged Laura X definitely has at least a 14 megapixel sensor to be able to produce 10-megapixel widescreen images right but the end result will be a 10 megapixel image right so yes there will be it probably a point where you can set four by three aspect ratio in which case in which case it will generate larger 13-point something megapixel images I never want to see another another four by three photo I'm just so I don't know what it is do you guys feel this am I the only one who feels this way I do you do a branded do you like widescreen photos or do you like square photos but it depends what I'm viewing it on when I'm in Apple mode I like 4 by 3 because the iPads 4 by 3 and that's where I view the photos I guess if I'm in a android mode it's it's okay to have widescreen his most android tablets are or widescreen you put the iphone 5 isn't for by three right it takes pictures in four by three yeah but then when you're displaying at what do you do don't yeah bars or something yeah you do get black bars and it looks like crap on the iphone but like my video but taken with a video chat and portrait just makes my skin crawl yeah time so so on this but guess there's there's this guy who tells me that he cannot stand seeing for my free pictures the same guy who loves square one by one pictures are one by one those are on Instagram it's different no see I put up with those I've never liked that about Instagram I put up with it but I don't know that's an aesthetic thing anyway um that's the Moto X camera rumor that wasn't the most confusing conversation I've ever all right i'll write the weekend post upwards yeah it sounds good the name might not be Moto X though this new motorola phone that we've been talking about for months and moments or series of phones might actually be called the ultra series well true coultre that's interesting that's the first time I'm hearing about this of course I'm out of my cave but the press release after the the all things D cumference where where the CEO went on record and stated it will be available this summer then it was followed by press release and the press release refers to the phone as the Moto X was it a legit Pratt the press release yeah coming from Motorola yeah I can find it too and she's hold on you just yeah suck well I don't know x.x makes more sense to me if we're talking about this 10 megapixel camera sample as being legit because if they're going to use the camera as a selling point which they should be x + 10 you know i could see how that would get along and I'm sure the marketing people are gonna have a great time with that ultra ultra seems like a more generic name to me Ultra is not a well hold on a second exes is pretty generic to I don't know maybe these are tied in there unassuming Ness you know maybe this will correspond to the to the new album from DMX hey yeah maybe it'll be exclusively be available on the motorola phone like that jay-z album on samsung devices which is a but that jay-z thing is brilliant for samsung by the way yeah it's a brilliant it's a brilliant marketing stunt it is it's it's a marketing stunt is a brilliant I mean it helps Jeezy and it helps Sam sound I mean what else could you want and in a way it kind of benefits the consumer a little bit although add the consumer of Samsung products well yeah so if you download that app can count on any android phone it doesn't really work it has to be samsung phone thanks honey GS 3gs 4 and no two i think is out it is yeah i don't know i don't listen to jay z so i just i could not care less i never read any of those pieces and then when the news went away i was i was happy jay-z would have a lost teacher Michael you know I I understand he only has the nicest things to say about me so I should probably thank you soo well I just since you guys do some of the press release today I can't load the page actually slowed my post I'd what load my post instantly you take that back and you take of you take a more polite anything they have never heard anyone minutes out I'm into my wife to load my head over here and load my post oh that's one day we'll have a podcast in either Romanian Hungarian German it's all in spanish or french and then i'm gonna laugh my a cottage you guys no no you didn't actually you phrased it perfectly it's just I've just never heard it said so the phones official name is Moto X as s Purdy the brush release yes alright so that that might be the X we might still see a series of other phones called the ultra series to replace the somewhat played out droid brand but we'll have to see what goes on with that I don't want to spend any more time on motorola until we have some firm stuff going on but I was most excited to see that branding stuff I think it's nice to see Google finally doing something with her acquisition other than 0 uble referring to the droid ultra yeah why would you think I was referring to DX I was but then we started talking about the ultra we did we did we moved we did that thing where time moved forward and then we went to the next topic it was so smooth and I'm still that still stuck in the past let's move on my EDD is getting the best of me galaxynote3 might arrived with an LCD screen I don't like it how do you guys feel pause there was there was your viewer segue you know you know guys I love else i rephrase i prefer LCD screens over super Emma let's at least until Samsung or any Super AMOLED screen or AMOLED screen manufacture aside from Nokia makes them clearly visible in direct sunlight I don't know man i can't i can't see the difference when i'm out of the active and you have very active and I've the s4 yeah and I'm appeared I'll be I'll be doing it again but I gotta tell you if the sun's bright enough it's gonna wash out both of them LCD doesn't matter at all because it's so glossy on the glass that it just and and for me the trade-off isn't worth it i hate firing up a phone that has an LCD on it and you know when they have that blacks by the screen right before the splash screen when the display just activates and that back light is shining through those pixels and it's supposed to be black but it's that gray I can't stand it I just I really really like amoled even though it's not as accurate it'sit's tackier because of that higher color saturation I don't mind that unless you have an HTC One well the slcd the panel on that is good but even then you power on the one and you you see it like you just don't like blacks that aren't really black I feel like if AMOLED is out there and we're kind of past the pentile discussion I think it's the better technology but you know you like you like truth Michael know if I like truth i would like LCDs I like truth in black I like truth in in black levels on displays yes you're right then you will love the screen on the Lumia 925 I think that that's that's the best AMOLED screen I have ever seen really no I did read I didn't read your whole review but I skimmed it and I watched your video which I loved but that um the colors are not to blown out for you no no you can actually customize the color temperature the saturation and everything according to your mates hey that's right yeah that's awesome but the stock the stock version works just just well well as soon as i see it i will i will be excited about it and speaking of that display disparity the galaxy s4 active review will be up this shortly after this podcast goes up and you guys listening you got to see this video um Michael did some really fun stuff in in the video of the active um I think he he led his creativity run wild I think was a very good video you got oh it's a must see it really is thank you sir no spoilers yeah just suffice to say there's a sweet there's a steamy scene between the s4 active and myself but yeah we get some slo-mo in there and we get some a lot of lot of water action which is to be expected so check it out the review will go up today the windows phone category is beckoning to us gentlemen shall we jump platforms see let's upgrade cool no that's actually a Microsoft a quote i wrote it was this morning about the microsoft allegedly not allegedly saying that allegedly twenty-three percent of new Windows Phone acquisitions were upgrades from agron yeah so I was going to put that in in here but I couldn't really decipher the headline and then something distracted me as it always does but what what is the story there Tony there the sum of they have some metrics claiming to indicate where people are coming from we'll be taking surveys a point of sale or something like I'm not sure exact lets the that was the opening speech at the build conference regarding Windows Phone and according to them forty-two percent of new windows film device acquisitions are coming from feature phones which is understandable and is normal and there are four billion feature phones out there so Microsoft still has a huge market chance here but the interesting bit was at the end of the slide saying I quote twenty-three percent of Windows Phone devices were bought by users upgrading from android of course if you upgrade from your side enough honeycomb bore that's tablet 2.2 to point something that you're not right yeah exactly but would you upgrade your s4 for a insert Windows Phone name here yeah it's not really an upgrade no I think you can I absolutely I think you can I mean you know it just depends on what features are important to you if you decide if you you can up you can call anything an upgrade you know if you upgrade from a samsung galaxy s4 to like a texas instruments calculator and a dumb phone that's tethered to the wall hey if that's if that's going to make your life better than that's an upgrade I mean I you know I think it's a word choice thing but there's definitely stuff that Windows Phone can do that that Android can absolutely yeah and I'm not debating that I'm just saying that if you have an Android phone chances are you have all the Google services installed and using them and once you switch to Windows Phone you can say bye-bye yeah well that that's a big that's something that I of course can't stand but is that I don't know is that true can we say that or just because so many people are buying android phones android is such a massive mover in the market that i think that there are probably swathes of millions of people who are don't use don't heavily use google services and probably a subset of those who don't even know that Google has anything to do with Android even now you know I feel like there's a lot of i'm thinking of people like my parents friends who buy galaxy s tues from AT&T at a discounted price and then put on their msn email on there you know like that that kind of thing yahoo mail yeah right exactly or yeah comcast so I don't know but I think that's pretty cool i think if that metric is accurate than twenty three percent of users jumping from android to Windows Phone that's that's pretty impressive twenty-three percent of Windows Phones bots are not twenty few percent of Android user base yeah that's what I meant yeah it's a huge difference yeah quarter of the Android user base is going to Windows yeah stop the presses so that's pretty cool yeah that's not in the rundown sorry I might try and throw that and the big news for me was the will get to device news in a second but we can't stop talking about the EOS because as we get closer and closer to the event more stuff starts to leak out we might have this I feel like this is the podcast about name changes so this is coming to us from from Ewa lakes on Twitter and it might arrive as a nokia lumia 950 1020 and that's not even sure now because is that be the next topic on the run down my might be the new name right which is go ahead and say what is it nokianokia zoom no kids trademark is under examination now is that the more recent story Tony that's you that's the story from from this morning yes okay so cut so who knows what they're gonna do now so there was the EOS then there was the Elvis code name then there was the 1020 and now we had the zoom right and I just want the ring I'm sorry go ahead will zoom makes a degree of sense to me right because that's what they're going to be playing up and they're gonna be talking about the the optical zoom capabilities and it's on the invite and oh right right right right exactly it's the Nokia zoom event on July eleventh so that makes more sense to me 10-22 me recalls I understand the progression from 9 22 10 20 but 10 22 me recalls the days of like the Nokia 3390 it makes me think of a nokia dumb phone and i don't think that's what that's where they want brains to be going no one's thinking that except people that know the history of the company well that's a very good point I you know I for me 1020 sounds like a pretty pretty high number and and it seems like there's something special there like for me like a 1000 feels like a really high number like 10-20 to me is like okay what is that a printer you know I mean I don't know that the zoom feels right but there's something fishy about that nokia is not going to ditch the lumia brand the Lumia speaks Windows Phone and and it's not trademarked as Nokia Lumia zoom with just nakia zoom so I'm thinking that either they want to separately blase this product in their portfolio and address that to a specific target yeah it runs Windows Phone among other things but the big thing is zoom or they will just change the trademark or change name to nokia lumia zoom yeah or it's it's it's just a feature you know it's like the new Lumia 1020 with Nokia zoom and then there's no key might be it might be a camera lens racket just likes the Nokia smart camera nokia zoom right yeah there's you know when these questions finally get answered what are we going to talk about 20 minute podcast we're going to talk about pop culture and Paula Deen yeah and and Kanye's baby north northwest I like that name I mean III get it you know when you make a name for a baby this is a big decision you gotta think ahead you gotta meet you have a name yet do you name it uh yes is it is it public is a public information ah to see I know it I think I know it too but I've damn okay then that's enough well okay I'll tell you it's it's mini so her name will be many many men that's my trademark that's perfect that's perfect well I am looking forward to hearing the official word so can we talk about this second device to have boom sound which is a windows phone this is the last piece of news on the run down and I am excited to talk about it please yeah I I woke up to this and like I did not expect it to happen and and boom sound is fascinating to me because it's something so obvious yet it is huge for HTC they got to the market first with this feature that we needed for years now because of crappy phone audio and and and the great thing about boom sound is that now when Samsung mixture comes out with dual front-facing speakers everyone's gonna be like at you copied that from HTC and and so when Samsung comes out next year with a phone that has a dual front speakers people will think HTC was was the originator of that and and and it's interesting to see how they're doing boom sound in with different designs I what's great is that I feel like this is a taking a page right out of our fanboy dreams because I talk I spent a long time when the 8's was announced talking about how much i love the 8's design and i wish they would port that cool dual dual tone color scheme but this isn't dull tone do we see other colors usable tone yeah it's purple with lighter purple neon zoo is not this is not double tone bro yeah that's the same cut okay it's technically don't own yeah i'm talking about two different colors you know no that's that's what tennis bull n thing mmhmm yeah tennis ball well the thanks boat was pretty cool are they doing only purple year during tennis ball while you're looking at that I'm gonna just first say this Brandon samsung I think was the first to come up with the front facing dual speakers on the other on a tablet and on their galaxy player so you got a galaxy player yeah then five dot eight thing that's a good week on a player all right get which one galaxy player android android boring and 5e player whatever and the main thing i want to say is that i think i am i the only one who looks at this render and finds it fishy i'm not saying that this is not an official render I mean the HTC One has symmetrical top and bottom speakers yes this HTC 8xt has a large speaker on the top and the smaller one on the bottom of course the physical dimensions of the speaker might be the same so that's a design thing and if you zoom in and look at the bottom of the phone either the windows logo or the speaker are not centered well yeah the windows logos off to the right a little bit and also also you might be in a situation where you're pressing the home button or something or you're accidentally covering up that speaker go because it's so close to an actual button rick is the lower and the lower speaker is the smaller of the two you could easily cover that up with the thumb you know what's interesting is that on the HTC One the top grill on the bottom girl for boom sounder are exactly the same to create this symmetry but the truth is that the speaker within on the bottom I don't know about the top only takes up about half the grill and so the other half is just for aesthetics and so so the 8x he kind of looks and feels weird because it's like why didn't they just stretch that and make it the same length as it's awful do I have to balance it to the right or to the left is it a stronger on the left right yeah I agree it creates the mental disconnect that doesn't it doesn't look very good certainly isn't as exciting looking as the one but you know it will see how it performs we're definitely gonna get a review unit on this that that looks exciting it's not the only phone that sprint is getting they're also going to be snapping up the the samsung at Eve s neo also known as matrix also known as the samsung atif s what I am a radio so the Neo means so the Neo means that sprint wanted a more current name for this phone that's now what the eight months old or seven months and that's exactly what the awnings and different languages it's video means new right yeah so it the only difference is that i'm seeing here if I'm getting this ray because I reviewed the achieve s and I liked it actually I like to I give it a higher score than the Lumia 920 because of its expandability and its utility but the atif s neo really really looks like an atty vests with nothing else changed about it except for a sprint logo and the sprint's LTE bands and so on we've got two thousand milliamp hour non removable battery 1 gig of ram microsd and almost 150 bucks on a contract which i think is too much no guys when i look at this thing and you know i like the achieve s and i played with it and and it took forever for it to come out to the US I look at this phone and I think it's one of the ugliest phones I've ever seen in my life what do you mean what about you know come on it's the it's the galaxy s3 man it I yeah but it did the galaxy s3 has this nice like roundedness to it but but this has like these really rounded square edges and then the the home button has this like isn't the most awesome camera battery cover yet that fake metal is incredible looking and I'd really forgotten a right knowing it really is like it sounds like I'm being facetious but that fake metal is so incredible to behold with your eyeballs no no Michael what is the difference between the word sarcastic and facetious um one of them has the word base in it you're a topology lesson you would make a great English teacher thanks man thank you I appreciate that maybe that's what i'll do when i when i get tired of talking about the etfs neo i I don't know I feel bad you know what sucks about this 8xt is that the what are the coolest parts about boom sound is where you can use it and I use YouTube all the time and Windows Phone still doesn't have an official YouTube app well they did well it was young they dig in and got pulled and now they're they're working on their working on again if you were crafty me and you didn't update your YouTube app which pulled it from the phone you can still have it so my lumia 920 still has the awesome YouTube app that Microsoft made which lets you download videos and do a bunch of fun stuff so but you know what really really sucks about this HTC 8xt what the wvga screen I mean come on so what we did gloss over that I'm sorry yeah no oh no did I burst your bubble Brandon yeah 4.3 inch WVGA what seats 480 x 800 480 x 800 yeah yeah I had no idea I want to take back every good thing I said about this phone so that so that really sucks because that means that the from a display perspective the ax t vas neo is going to be positioned as the higher-end Windows Phone it is it's line up right and and of course it's gonna be more expensive to buy what 50 bucks or something like that yeah yeah 50 bucks whereas this the HTC device with its with boom sound which is a huge huge value add is going to be the mid-range player and that's why oh it makes sense now that's why this looks like an 8 s because it's playing the part of the 8's when when was last time any of us looked at an HTC 8s out of these ports the same on the front hold on i'm doing a google image search here right now no no okay so the 8's does not have the lower the lower port the 8's has just the windows phone button and there's nothing above it but that you know the stripe is the same and the upper grille is the same so they've basically added a port to lower one and what's the resolution on the 8's it also while you search makes a little bit of sense to me because these are the two new windows phones on sprint and they obviously couldn't have had two flagships so they're having something for everyone you want a flagship you go with the samsung phone you want the HD you want a mid-range okay it's not really a mid-ranger it's a modestly spect phone then go with the HTC so they have a wider poulette of two so yeah I've confirmed that the 8s does have wvga display so it's the same panel on that set C but let's say it's a deal breaker I mean no wvga it's still but it's a deal but it's it's a conceptual problem in 2013 towards the end we're talking almost standardization of 1080p displays of course when it comes to Windows Phone at 720p but wvga is so HTC hd2 nice q has a question and it shouldn't you can but it shouldn't be called the 8xt this should be called the eighth st or something like that anyway that's what's been throwing me off I'm sitting here looking at this thing I'm like wait how am I such an idiot why didn't I realize this is just an 8 s for sprint instead of an 8x for sprint because it's it's not named properly that's crazy yeah what's your question Brenner have you guys seen the dell tablet commercials where they position it next to an ipad oh that's a dell tablet you know what I'm talking about yeah and the Microsoft the other the total trash talking ones Tony do you not yeah yeah and you it's great wait till you hear about it and and there's a there's a there's a series that's narrating the whole thing and and it's saying things like I can't do that so I cannot do that and and it's it's maddening because the first feature they show off that the ipad cannot do but the dell running windows 8 can do is zoom out on the home screen and then the Siri voice says I cannot zoom out on my home screen and I'm thinking like does anyone buy a tablet because they can zoom out on the home screen what does that even mean yeah like that's it's it's a soft lead in like Tony they eventually do get to like more important stuff like multitasking running two apps Idaho that's so time for an ant on thanks article so time for this oh I forgot about that yeah no I yeah it's it's it's definitely pretty cool you know add push whether you agree with it or not I think you have to give them credit for being like wow they're just slapping to just walking right up to them and slap them in the face using series voice and it's a perfect reproduction of serious voice too and that voice exists outside of the context of Syria forgot who's responsible for it but yeah actually download that any mac computer you can download series voice and you can use that for dictation and text-to-speech can you show you can basically narrate your entire editorial with serious place and well serious voice has just recently got an upgrade to to send one natural in iOS 7 which I like have you used Syria and I have a7 Brennan I have and I switched it to the male voice just for fun I like the male voice better because I think all voice assistants are female and so why not switch it up a little and so it's you know yeah i still find siri to be limited in its usefulness and it's so funny because one of the hallmark features of iOS 7 is that siri now shows you how your voice fluctuates as you talk to it because we all wanted that because that was like we've got a live wave for him well yeah it's like the the what to call just like the coolest yeah it's like they're a google thing the pulsing heartbeat thing and then Windows Phone it has that those bars those dotted bars at the top every time I use voice can do command and Windows Phone I want to tear my as I was but I'm looking forward to that actually because I like voice voice interface and I'm looking forward to the inevitable Microsoft overhaul of Windows Phones voice interaction because it needs it shall we move on to listener mail please do great see oh you know what I'd like to I'd like to isolate that and use that as a notification sound that's nice like a little rattle in my smartphone the noise Hussein rights in actually almost over a month ago we went through a bit of a backlog in our listener mail to kind of clear it out before the contest submissions but Moyes says hey pocket now have been listening for a while and I've noticed you don't talk very much about the issues padfone series i've read tony's review about the phone pad but i was wondering why it is so that the pad phones aren't that big of a topic and why it isn't even mentioned mmm i talked about the the bad phone every time I come home from Barcelona and I'm saying that I'm always leaving with a wand i'm quoting myself and never ending up buying it because it's so damn expensive yeah yeah the price point is a really big deal but also isn't now Tony I know you still enjoy the concept of it and I i I'm about the only one on the team who loves it no it too loves it yes I like it though and I was spected and I think one of my first editorials ever for pocketnow was talking about how the concept would have been great ten years ago but today it's just with the cloud and all that kind of stuff it's not really relevant anymore I don't know I would really like to hear from people if you want to write in if you've always wanted to write in to the podcast and you have Anna Sue's pad that phone right yeah you having a snooze padfone and you I want to hear about your experience with it because really we see him at trade shows and we turn did you review one or no no no we didn't get a review unit and we definitely didn't buy one yeah another problem with the path we want to hear from you listeners iPad phone owners we want to hear from you Brenda go ahead and another prophet platform is it's not it's not released in the US so there's not many people talking about it here right that is right to you have price you have kind of the practicability of the practicality of the design and then you have total unavailability in the country where most of the pocket not team is located so you know it's not as dug in the product moises just you know those factors work together to conspire to reduce our coverage I'm not hey hey hey gents yeah I need to drop off any we've got a couple more listener males but unfortunately have to go ooh hard stop minimum six minutes early this is going to be this is a hard stuff too hard stuff man yeah man this is like premature hard stuffs is inception guys you're getting too personal talking with all these situations all right man Brandon great to have you on the show as always thank you for joining us for episode 050 all right cheerio good yeah yeah Tony what do you say you want to feel this last piece of listener mail with me absolutely I'm i got all the time in the world outstanding um I do not so it's fortunate is the last piece of listener Pam oh go ahead I'll just continue podcasting by myself this is comes to us from Jamie Somerville High pocket a team a listener from the UK big fan Thank You Jamie I just made I just wandered outside of mobile tech what operating system do you use and your desktop laptop computers are you Mac or a PC good question there Jamie and it gets the second part of this question in a second I think Tony you and I are Oh God us and Taylor and hi May we are all max yeah and then Joe Adam Lane Adam Dowd and who else well Brandon can I Brendan yeah right they did good there are windows guys yeah Windows 8 or Windows 7 or or XP or this kind of the 50 50 yeah in the case of stephen chang keys do he runs like a linux build or something right mmhmm yeah yeah but if he would run windows he would probably run windows three points 11 for windows written NT four networks no way what was that was that for windows or yeah anyway um so that yeah but this is a sore subject right Tony because they do you want to do want to I don't want to bring this up if it's painful but no no because it's it's it's ongoing investigation so we can't really talk about it but yeah I I'm in thing now yeah you guys I'll tell you about my pain later yeah and speaking about things that about 14 times in episode I almost turn a moment into a star trek quote and because I'm never on the air with people who will get it I don't but as Jamie JP asks Jamie says that I really love how you put star trek into your videos Thank You Jamie you are the only one and I appreciate it I do it for you because nobody else gets what the hell I'm doing and it Jamie asks if I can talk about a couple of episodes Star Trek episodes Jamie I'm not going to do that now because I most of our audience would not would not dig it however i will shamelessly plug myself I often guests on another podcast called the ready room from Trek FM so if you are interested in listening to Star Trek talk and particularly awesome Star Trek talk then you should go over there Trek FM is the place to go and there's there's the one and only time I have plugged a trek FM on the pocket and weekly but every time I'm over there I'm like oh you can hear me on the pocket our weekly podcast if you like cell phones it's wonderful so Jamie thank you for writing in and really appreciate it sorry it took so long to get your piece of listener mail but with that we have an empty inbox finally we're at inbox or oh I know I know who and the pocket now the fog and I weekly podcast inbox and that is cleared out so that all your contest submissions can come in once again you should check out the contest post listeners for that for your chance to win an LG optimus G gently used by our very own Brandon minimum listeners about that inbox zero you should really do something about that then I mean Michael will be bored to death just just send him some heroes and thankfully you know that hasn't been the problem it's only been it isn't no we've had a flood of listener mail we've had actually so much that I've had to hold a lot in the buffer because we change the guests every week and I'll get a lot of emails that only you can answer only Brandon connette sure because they're talking about old-school pocketnow stuff for something on a blog okay got to hold this one go to hold that one but thankfully we're at zero so listen for the address in the end of the end of the show and before we actually get to the end of the show Tony do you have any anything to lead us out with any exciting news coming up in your life I am I am looking forward to covering Aoife in Berlin with you again Oh last year all over the interesting uses that I just came back from London and I'm already preparing to leave for for Berlin and who knows what else in between so it's been an awesome year I think ever since i'm covering mobile technology this has been the most interesting and exciting year at least for me yeah I certainly have only been covering it for a little over a year so that's holds true for me as well sir but I'm very very very excited to return to Aoife and get ourselves some of that awesome bratwurst under the river there that was awesome fancy attune burns a term yeah hello friends eter we're definitely going back with that TV tower that's gonna be great well we will look forward to that the fortunate that doesn't come up till September's so we have some time to spend in our respective cities and countries and a whole lot more mobile news coming up in the weeks ahead but for now that is going to do it for this episode of the pocket noun weekly hey find us on Twitter Brandon who left early is at Brandon minimun Anton is at an Tandy Naja and Auntie oh and DNA gy is how that's built by the way and you can always find me at captain two phones talking too much on the twitters you can also follow pocket now officially at pocket now on twitter as pocket now on facebook and google+ you can leave us a review on iTunes or xbox music especially if you want to win that Optimus G and if you have a topic question or suggestion for the podcast or you just want to say hello or if you just want to talk about Star Trek you can email us and me at podcast at pocketnow.com thanks for listening we'll see you next week hey slows my post I'd wet load my post instantly you take that back and you take of you take a more polite anything to say I've never heard anyone minutes out I'm into my wife to load my head over here and load my post oh that's one day we'll have a podcast in either Romanian Hungarian German it's all in spanish or french and then i'm gonna laugh my a cup at you guys you