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and it says we are live good good morning good afternoon good evening everybody and welcome to episode 11 of the bucket now live excuse my voice this is still a reminiscence a souvenir from Vegas I'm ads on front pocket now and joining me today my brother and arms from Vegas who doesn't sound pretty much different than I do Taylor welcome to the show thanks for having me oh it sounds a little bit better yeah I feel a little better but I still have a cough and the man that keeps everything rolling well we are getting sick in vegas or anywhere else Stephen welcome hey hey i feel kind of bad for not getting sick now don't worry i'll jerk I'll go lick some door knobs or something I'll get the process going guys i will i will stop talking soon because you get just crazy my boy because of my voice so I'll just hand it over Stephen the cameras locked on you why don't you just start talking to somebody well I should dive right in here how about Eric I see you there your headphones on how you hit her what's going on tomorrow where you colonists are calling us where you hang in with us from our go here for a second there I think we lost audio I was probably yeah because it was working so well but it's what second there I thought we were gonna be off to a pocket now live without any weird have related difficulties but that would be asking far far too much can you turn your audio up I'm wearing headphones I can barely hear you Stephen I can hear just fine like Eric I couldn't hear them at all they're from yeah I mean here Eric can you say something yeah I can barely sir yea yea I can't your levels are very very low all right so why don't you see if you can't turn your microphone gain up a bit uh maybe we will try jumping back to you at a moment if see if we can hear you better but let's keep things moving right along here how about Billy they're right next to you Billy can we hear you if you'll have two onions ourselves scary oh and that third area speakers your plugins like it such a such a screen for feedback oh sorry about that is that good no they were so cute all right okay no I'm Mac Mac Z this is good I'm getting a lot of comments on YouTube videos which we both really good audio problems I'm gonna just tell once again everybody that this is not a scripted show this is a live show we have no control over who's joining or what they are talking about or what they are about to say and what gear they are using so just bear with us it just scratches our brain just like it scratches yours so we're sorry once again for it but this is the way a live show happens on youtube so Billy I needed you but I'm going to unmute you back once you get your headphones on just wave to me okay hmm all right let me see okay and you should be unmuted or at least that's what my okay now say something okay can you hear me now a daughter or a day difference yes perfect okay I'm not mad about that I'm just trying to use my laptop someday they'll protect their camp perfect uh noise cancelling microphones on that couch but until then headphones good do the job of a page LOL today okay close your laptop of course of course everyone will have their Chromebook instead of a proper laptop with things like local storage and all sorts of bells and whistles but that's neither here or there anyway huh Billy hi where are you talking to us problem um honestly I'm from the most bipolar state in the u.s. AKA Florida Oh Florida ara our friend Michael is headed down to Florida right now for a nice little refreshing vacation so you're in good company I assuming he stopped in Jacksonville but that's not likely who knows and oh is a mystery wrapped and then they come i wrapped in some spiky hair and yellow glass what are you had talked about yesterday arm actually this kind of the few months back i believe it was in the beginning of november there was a podcast that specifically dealt with smartphones through the eyes of the blind right right and myself i'm actually visually impaired myself though I thought maybe I could kind of give some insight there was a really good question on there that was asking about is their smartphones developed specifically for the blind or visually impaired and yes erin was partially right as far as like iOS being good for people who are totally blind because of voiceover and stuff but like if you're visually impaired but you still have some usable eyesight to where you can use a smartphone without very many accessibility site um settings absolutely the Galaxy Note series whether Samsung intentionally made it for that purpose which I doubt very seriously but that is the Galaxy Note devices are honestly the most perfect device listen is because they have a huge screen or is it because they have some sort of settings which you can enable in order to help you read the information on the screen just refuge screen just because of the you scream yes I'm surprised to hear that mean it makes a lot of sense if you're not completely visually impaired you still have some degree of functionality left larger Texas you know we're gonna be easier to read so do you find tablets if you have a tablet do you understand preferably over a phone um depends on the circumstance because honestly yes I prefer tablets but it's just one more device to carry around and right now I would be using a galaxy note I had a note to for like eight months but i just cannot stand TouchWiz so that what if we have like a google play edition or what about him you're consuming it or something if there was a google play edition note 3 I would actually have that over my nexus 5 i'll listen up google there's a market for this I mean seriously the note i obviously samsung doesn't market it that way but reality is if you're visually impaired and you have some usable vision and regis way to go because apple cannot seem doesn't really seem to care to make a bigger screen or at least not for a moment yeah well yeah it's coming this year hopefully i mean if they make a 4.7 inch iphone yeah that's a bit small my sweet spot is five inches but they make a 4.7 inch iphone when i'm probably going to camp out for it because i'm hearing up there could also be one at five inch range it has been this talk of possibly two models we might get one super small one and one like in the 45 you're talking about but their dimension of a phablet so who knows yeah but yeah question i am flipping through the settings of my gs4 and I'm betting that the settings of the note 3 are the same there is a setting within the display options for font size from the tiniest to the hugest largest do you find yourself often using that I'm going to try to show it off i'm not sure if it on say anything that question yes I do even on my Nexus 5 I use the large font size just because it makes everything more readable but also I do a lot of gaming and a lot of I do pretty much everything on my phone so you know big screen just make some sense they're doing everything that much easier you now would you carry something like the was it the one who only looks so much which one the fonepad the move the Megas the phone pad oh yeah on if they had the specs of the Nexus 5 and yes because I'm absolutely loving my nexus 5 right now the the tab 8.4 we saw that a pro 8.4 we saw at CES that's got extraordinary specs yeah that that is a very nice tablet if they can get that into a LTE version to work on tmobile within reasonable price so long as it has that speaker on it I would carry here to say to won't but but you might be able to get one from overseas yeah in fact it easy if i had the money i would have the gpe on z ultra right now no yeah for that phone just gives me nightmares I just I can't deal with the film epic I can't do it it it is huge but at the same time like I said I am visually impaired but i do have enough usable vision to where i can still play games and stuff like that and just use the phone how it should be used for gaming media consumption so z ultra is like my dream device Billy you shouldn't you should really mind Taylor because she used the Z ultra all the way as a tray for his bed and breakfast show just haha and if I i wish the nexus 7 LTE had a speaker yeah that'd be nice but here in the states it's like taboo having a speaker on a tablet because we were talking about the weekly last week or this week no it was last week Michael and I were talking about how Samsung PR agent was telling us know when Michael was holding it up to his face now he was like please don't please don't well so and that's also thing too is it general people like that aren't visually impaired I mean being a visual impaired it's kind of a minority yeah and in your case it's definitely something that would probably be beneficial or useful more certain and to someone like me who just likes the display size oh definitely I can't keep stop thinking about one of the last stories I cover and yesterday was about the LG G flex and there's I don't know if it's a a problem with manufacturing or if this was intentional but we've seen it still having these tiny little bumps on the display when it's folded wouldn't it be bizarre if they could somehow harness that and make a display that intentionally deforms like that and it could like have Braille right on the screen I mean I can't recognize accessibility that's amazing last year's a company yeah yeah go ahead there's a company called tactus who actually is working on that because they were trying their their initial goal was to bring tactility to typing on a display but they have this display technology which raises and lowers and uses a vibration to actually mimic tactility not you know the haptic feedback that we get it's actually supposed to mimic because the screen actually does move yes that's crazy speaking of haptic feedback honestly as cited smartphone users how often do you use have to feedback it is the first thing I always turn off ever really I like you as soon as I set up a phone I don't even make it through the setup process usually I go into keyboard settings turn off haptic feedback and as soon as I get through them I go to settings and go to sound and turn off I'm looking for me I'm right in the middle between the two of you because Steven uses it and I use it on some phones and I disabled on other phones I use it on the HTC One and I've got a disabled on the gs4 don't ask me why and it feels Hollow on samsung devices it makes the toys feel hollow oh yeah i mean the reason i was asking this because i can't see using a phone without haptic feedback because being that they're all touchscreen to be added to have a vibration to know what I'm touching kind of helps out makes it easier yeah all right anything else you wanted to bring up with us we have you on this board and Billy uh not that i can think of at the moment I'm just glad to finally been able to make it on because I've been trying to sense that whole kind of thing that's weird you finally guys yeah you had some very interesting stuff to start this pot of podcast to hang out out with I think we're off to a hot start long shoulders yeah I'm going to go see what other people have to say all right well let's keep moving here before we do is there any way people can say hiding others up eating outside Kiki's a miniature pinscher and chihuahua mix well hey there um you can find me on google+ at Billy Thompson or my facebook is also Billy Thompson I mean you find my facebooking gonna hold my number I wouldn't care just don't harass me up just do the rest of it but I'm you guys totally when you're saying like I actually do have one question that comes to mind yes you um what would be some advice as far starting at the YouTube channel because honestly over the last like few years because of the note line and how amazing it is for people who with visual impaired or whatever I've been kind of thinking about starting a YouTube channel doing tech review through the eyes of the blind well that it that that looks like an awesome idea and I as far as i know i haven't seen any other tech channels out there who talk about that so my advice for you would be the first to do something interesting which other peoples have not done before and this is exactly what well it looks like you're up to so if you have a dislike to start that good luck with it the best advice I can offer make videos because you can talk about and think about it but it unless you get out there and physically do it it won't ever you want you won't know if it's going to be popular or not so you have to start somewhere start by actually doing those if I someone gave me do instead of think and don't let commenters bring you down oh yes oh just ignore them ignore they have hundred not unlock the I think we lost him I think yeah all right food let us move on apparently he got the information he needed over we eating for that is my snares Ian Stefan Taylor back to you I'm gonna my voice yeah i'm gonna see if eric has audio yet or if he's fixed is Mike um hello yes it's much fun nice and loud yeah how are you Eric today I'm good I'm I'm very tired oh yes drunk muffin now I remember you I can't hello nobody can't forget so where are you calling in from again um Sydney Australia that's right that's right that explains why you're so tired yeah let's meet a as well give it to 10 you are you okay I'm not talking though I'm hearing my voices yes alright so do you have any questions for us specifically starting with yes EES because that one yeah yeah one reason Tony had me come on the show today um ok so what device actually managed to last you longer since AES are all like the 50 devices yander because it's funny because most of them just said in the bag and stayed on standby most the time i had an iphone 5 and moto x in my pockets Michael carried a note 3 and Tony you had a galaxy s4 right yes for in a 1020 yeah yeah and Michael had a 1020 of all those if I were to just guess I would probably say the Nexus they're not Nexus the note 3 probably lasted longer than everything the Moto X actually did very well with stamina I was going a day and a half on a charge so I was happy with that but I'm sure Michael probably outlast us all he also got two spare batteries from Samsung while we were there so there's also yes you'll sad like 400 power banks like I was lots of you anxious yeah we always have I don't go anywhere without at least two yeah were you at Ellery you get to see the huawei which one was it the one that could charge the other phones with thee the measurements but someone insta mute they're like who am i hearing sir I'm doing not hearing a knock dude in here Mike well everybody's muted yeah I'm not hearing any feedback I am maybe it's just you talking about the ascend mate to bury every oh yeah the one that could charge the other devices mmm we're getting a lot of flak from people in the comments like why would anyone even consider something like this but it's a heretic losing friend in your face yeah because I have a friend who's needy and what he used to do he doesn't do it anymore what he used to do is he had a two hundred megabyte plan on AT&T and I had unlimited data on t-mobile so what we would do is we'd go to a restaurant we're sitting there and he's like hey can you turn on your tethering so I would he would use my data and we would sit there and have dinner and he's the same kind of person that be like hey can you give me some of your phone's charged I like he's he's that kind of guy I feel bad like visit I've been that guy in the Wi-Fi tethering situation I never had a clone I wouldn't see myself using it that way but I'm always carrying two phones so i would probably see myself because i love the lumia 1020 and i can't say this enough but i hate windows phone and not as a hate hate but as in the fact that i hate that i cannot do the things which I want to do with it like for instance my workflow in Vegas was to snap pictures with the 1020 Bluetooth them over to my gs4 and upload from my gs4 because of my gs4 i have g plus i have facebook pages and so on so i would see myself carrying the mate 2 and using that to charge my secondary phone my 1020 once the charge dropped so this might work for me but i would never charge my friends phone or or somebody else's phone at the table because that's just I think lay right yeah I'm not gonna get home Josh charge yes it's a good idea in theory but nobody's going to give up their own battery power we love it too much and it's too scarce it phones were lasting three or four days I can see where that would help but right now it doesn't yeah if we're getting like kindle level on battery lasts and i'm sure everyone was sharing the battery life everywhere but yeah sadly we can barely last night whatever happened to that phone with the dual screens it had that Ian display on the back it was coming out of Russia notable yotaphone yeah they launched him a few weeks ago no not that I saw but they did launch a few weeks back or a few months ago yeah they announced it in in Prague and I think a thief a last year and they made it available i think for pre-orders recently like the end of last year and that should start shipping soon i hope that guy catches on it's not going to but I mean it's just I love to see innovation like that yeah I agree um Eric do you have any other questions oh yeah necessarily about ces but I'm um how you have headphones what up others the audio técnicas yeah 8am 480 I've ordered them and they come again sir I should yes I'm going so happy these are fantastic headphones i absolutely love them and also never go anywhere without these so yeah um yeah um about that dick vbac thing that are the previous caller had I kind of love the haptic feedback on the Nexus 5 it's the best I've ever had um like it's just it's just so perfect it feels so good in the hand when you compared to like I my HTC One X that terrible haptic feedback so just just my two cents yeah there there is definitely a difference there is a good haptic feedback and a bad hectic feedback in and I've always found that those really really plasticky phones from Samsung LG all those different companies when you when you use the haptic feedback that you can kind of hear it and it's kind of tinny because the phones seem and feel hollow and it's just the same with like I remember with the optimus g pro i believe it was that a reviewed when you click the home button it would you could kind of hear it like kind of Clank inside and you would long press on the display or something it would you could hear it it was like really it was almost like being in a like a tunnel and yelling that little faint echo that you get yeah was really bad terrible it's like the old free-kick cat stocks announced ah oh yeah that's horrible ok let us move on unless you have yeah final question for us Eric I had like 50 questions about an hour ago one more no I forgotten everything else probably best to move it all I think hey well thanks for joining us you want to tell everybody where they can follow you and find you on on the social media space yes I'm on I'm on Twitter so you can follow me at drunk underscore muffin and yeah i mean that's practically what the 1i keeper public i might be psychic block soon but uh maybe oh ow I'll be on my tour so yeah all right well everyone follow eric did drunk drunk underscore muffin and we look forward to seeing you again soon maybe next week yeah maybe you can resist big question yeah a little next time i should be that but I'm brain dead today and I I was gonna go to sleep until soul pocketnow alive and I was like oh I can't miss this I missed the last two economist this one sleep can wait always the sleepers will be saving up for us alright see you guys fill out they take care of here I by Stephen back to you please yeah low you win all the way on the left here how's it going you're good we can't hear you can you turn up your volume ii say something testing you just have bad luck with a student oh man I just bad you're right I'm curse this morning oh my lord sorry my cat is tearing up my office behind me here and I can't tell if the noises I'm hearing are the audio coming interrupted or my cat jumping and knocking down things sorry oh god no audio so do you want to check here that's your microphone and we'll come back to you in a minute well at least be in here he's home unit okay how about I'm seeing Abdullah jumping around a lot here over on the left here a video is second ago but I lost it now just your converse with the first huh I heard him hello I think you did not that was like a problem oh you okay sir a bad luck I'm sorry week your audio is coming and incredibly distorted uh I've got no audio give me neither i have an hour audio coming back to us like it's going through a kazoo I was about to ask feeling does your does your cat have some radioactive or something die not it's all right uh why don't you please mute unless you can get some headphones or something because this feedback is going to be a a non-starter all right let's try again with someone else how about Tiago hey hey all right headphones on nice touch no feedback ringing yeah yeah you're coming through loud and clear oh oh okay oh nothing much well there is one thing I'm really interested in and I'd like to hear Taylor's take on it um a phone that max I'll hear very well the Sony Xperia z1 compact third where is where is here for everyone's edification South Africa all right nice South Africa yes so yeah the z1 compact was yet we actually saw them setting it up before they announced it they had everything under wraps at the sony booth and they were were about to get on stage and announce everything and for whatever reason right before they did they lifted the glue the cover and then they lifted this glass thing over it and they rearranged all the phones and tablets in this little case and then covered it back up like oh we didn't just show you everything so we kind of knew what was happening we knew there was some colorful tiny foam coming out but we didn't know anything about it and or officially I guess I shouldn't say and when they announcement it was actually pretty well received um everybody seems to love it so far it's what a lot of people have been asking for a true miniature flagship hmm yeah i mean i've got i've got my sony ericsson xperia arc also 4.3 inches so it's not something i have to get used to a different size or something like that it's something that i'm potentially looking forward to especially that Snapdragon 800 I think it's two gigs of RAM it's it's a fun at the miniature phone without compromise and that's what everyone has been waiting for yeah because HTC Samsung LG and everyone making miniature phones they always seem to think that small phone should be inferior to the large ones 2013 was better than a lot of them had been as far as those mini models went but I mean yeah almost all of them were still downgrading some spec or another yeah with the HTC one mini that what had a Snapdragon 400 I can't remember but I know it didn't have the same Snapdragon 600 as the HTC One yeah what's up I'm sorry yeah Sonny could you please mute your microphone we still nagging at him for you there we go thank you so do you like to ask me anything about the z1 compact or or anything else in particular well you said you want to hear my take on it yeah exactly i was wondering what what you thought about it because as I've said it's something the whole industry has been waiting for some people unlock these huge phones where Samsung specially I've seen they've been pushing especially with the S line and what they end with a Nightline huge phones and some people just want a decent-sized thing but they don't want bad specs and Sony's here to answer that yeah that is it just the first miniature no compromise smartphone in the display fortunately is improved from from their previous models which were they were okay like the illiteracy under those circumstances what under those circumstances with poor lighting and spotlights on the phones will have to see in our labs how they compare and how they fare yeah that is true that is true don't ask me to compare the display because apparently i'm biased against Sony and hey the Xperia Z ultra but uh if you if you don't understand the arena comments the ultra is understandable that thing are passed by by a solo hello the other day and it's huge it's right too big it's a tablet to get bone and too small to be a tablet and it's not exactly a phablet so I think your little brother is kind of its kind of video bothering you right now mr. new video yeah he does it that's my brother you know it's funny to make sure about phablets being such a particular device size and for some people you obviously yeah it's hard to understand how it's something that size might be useful it's weird though that the smart companies are releasing devices in this range but they're ignoring more or less ignoring what you were talking about the other side be smaller than normal bones it's why are they these are just two different opinions bigger long why is this big one that they're gravitating towards it's us yeah it's like the entire car industry would stop making like miniature compact cars and only making Hummers you know like it just doesn't make sense to me trucks and Hummers he must look like that yeah that's what it's been and and if you want a smaller compact car it's like you have a smart car that's your only choice a smart car or a truck or a Hummer are you gotta cool it right two doors away to go yeah but it's it's nice to see them appeal to or start appealing to other consumers who don't necessarily want a large phone like me I've been very happy with the Moto X and it's obviously not a large foam and that's the other thing the phone you have now the Xperia Arc um somebody just beautiful is anyone allowed to mute us yeah okay find him in the list here we go I got it okay yeah okay so what I'm saying is when you're comparing this z1 compact to your Xperia Arc I don't know what the actual footprint size of the xperia arc is but for some reason i believe that this one is going to be smaller physically than the definitely a yeah yeah the difference is i think this one is gonna be thicker I don't know for sure I remember the arc being a pretty thin phone I don't know the specs on that point seven millimeter thick 8.7 dark yes well the z1 compact is like 9.2 9.5 but problem self why doesn't Google Hangouts do the same thing which you did for such a long time to meet all my fault yeah that'd be nice hates us it does it does today it hates you especially Steven I don't know what I did but yeah I think 4.3 inches is probably a little small for me but for someone who wants a smaller phone it's definitely I think the frontrunner for a compact smartphone well i was thinking about either that or yeah meant something much bigger better anything that i was thinking of the nexus 5 which is a good phone even though it's not available in my region but a friend of mine from school just just got one i saw this thing i fell in love Oh Mon things amazing it is a very pretty fun i love the way it looks and i love the way it feels the displays i guess a little washed out i'm especially if you use it next to something with an AMOLED display you'll notice the colors are not nearly as saturated but it's still pretty gorgeous and if you use it by itself and don't compare it to everything else it's fine it's perfectly lined the color reproduction is pretty close accurate but it's more pale than a lot of other phones displays yeah well that was about it all right well thank you for joining us do you have any final questions for Tony or Stephen and myself before you drop off not that uh that I can think of so far okay be in another live yeah next week maybe cool oh yeah if you want it yeah if you want to tell anybody where they can find you to follow you on social media twitter facebook google+ um well you can you can find me on twitter it's x take 360 so TIG 360 and also on google plus it's Thiago sir area that's it awesome alright well thank you for joining us and we hope to see you in a future live very soon thanks for having me thanks sir have a great day bye let us let us let me try to talk to you Sonny let me unmute you and get your volumes back to normal hey hey we can hear you loud over here hi how are you where are you from Oh am i'm from india from india well you may actually you may remember you may remember me from the episode 20 of the season one another the jetta thingy maybe roll achard i will tell you this much i will not remember you not because your face is not rememberable this because i'm getting old and I have a lot of episodes behind me oh man Kody like in reality it's this clip I guess Michael was also there you know maybe did we'd be like a roll him he said that camera thingy dad but I tried to talk i start coughing so I was about to ask you what do you want to ask us or what do you want to talk about either CES related or completely unrelated to see yes actually it's completely updated from CES um like oh no there was like they saw when the the topic which I want to talk to his like about it's like a the phone box video the phone blocks and the project ara actually like when it just came up like it was a huge explosion but then finally like it fell down you know and now like I I got us to tailor like you know what anything related to our IM of CES 2014 any like any glimpse of even an e-book presentation for our or any demonstration or something like that none that i can remember no google had a small corner of the show floor but i don't remember any motorola presence whatsoever no no no I mean yeah they were pretty pretty silent and and notable in and understandably so because the Moto X is still relatively new what four months five four months old and the Moto G is new so they've already released a bunch of stuff and they're very they made it very clear that they're going to vary keep their product line very small so I didn't expect much from them yes and project ara is something that we're expecting to see much more from way down the road like 2015 it's shall I go open standard it's not just from the mood role not just from Motorola it's like how many OEMs will have to provide the service their services for that not only motorola it's like on in standard i what phonebloks is working with them now but they weren't at CES either so i think it's a very much work in progress and and very very early on there are very very high chances that this will only remain a proof of concept because you have to gather older manufacturers to produce older modules and then you have to get into the mindset where I motorola or Google or I phonebloks i'm doing a phone which is completely against everything else HTC Samsung Apple and all the rest of the guys are doing and I'm not sure how they would welcome such a concept on the market without just killing it at birth so I think it's a great concept it's it's like building your own pc or you're building your own smartphone will it ever become mainstream I don't think so I'm less worried about the the manufacturers there are no the ones their feelings about this then tony is and well I do think it's an incredible idea I've been pushing it for this idea of modular smartphones since i started covering smart let's really i don't think project ara is actually going to happen in a way that we're going to be satisfied with there are all these you stumbling blocks the the way that they're doing it this external modularity snap together concept i think is an awful idea from the get-go because you're compromising structural integrity you're wasting a lot of space with the packaging of all these components the only way this is going to make sense and it's not very consumer friendly but is something similar to a pc or a notebook where you have even more delicate components cards that you know fit into slots inside but they be smaller the whole thing would then be in closing is one RF shield vs. separate shields for everything and besides you know the that issue the FCC certification must be a nightmare for this because you're going to have to get every single component separately getting it certification and it's a great idea I wouldn't make I did about seeing it would be personally I would view that it is even but remote very yeah there's a German company back in 2010 that tried to do it and they failed miserably they had a website and they were selling phones customers at customized phone so you could pick and choose what you want it on your phone and it failed within three months so it's a very very difficult thing to overcome and I think the biggest thing is it is part of what Tony said other manufacturers because Eve even motorola or another company that's in on this it kind of reduces reciprocal sales because if you can just constantly and perpetually upgrade your phone without buying another phone the only way that I can make as much money as they made before is to upgrade the platform not just upgrade the components so require you know some sort of different base model with new modules but I just don't understand how that would benefit anyone I understand it's a cool concept but in a in the grand scheme it's not an execution not an execution you know how I would I would see this working maybe maybe in the future the way moto maker is currently working helping you customize the look of your phone what if the next Moto X or more why or whatever its name will be will use moto maker version 2 which will not only allow you to choose the outside colors but it will also allow you to choose either knee Snapdragon 800 processor or the 400 processor or 1 gig of ram or maybe 22 frame or maybe an 8 megapixel camera or a 13 megapixel camera you're talking about like divorcing the customizability aspect from the upgradability aspect of it you're looking like just me from the factory locked in but at least give you more control over the options exactly i mean that's the entire idea behind moto maker right your phone but why don't you allow me to make my phone the way I want it on the inside as well well there were those rumors coming up to it i mean we at the beginning with no idea what level of customizations and i think there was talk about at least ram options sounds like that yeah hello i'm good i like the first were designed by you the moto x was like it was at rise like the first one designed by you by google yeah take that one step farther sure oh and the second question like my question was like for like her in iphone like a after the iphone 4s when iphone 5 came there was a bit of screen pops I they were screen bomb from for SEO 5 like to buy you steal off of my particular used to apply to promote developers to get their apps from the screen size of iphone 4s to five so now we're hearing rumors that the iphone 6 would be having a greater size and they won't do it without increasing the resolution so would it like should it not be very tough Apple again to again like promote the developers to build their apps for the bigger screen the bigger resolution oh there are two things Apple can do and be smart about it first of all if the larger so called rumored iphone 6 will have a up to 6 inch screen they could keep the same resolution and still get away with it with a ppi rating up to 60 to 50 something or if they want to continue going on with the retina marketing thing they could just easily double the resolution and that way developers would basically have to just rewrite a small portion of their code or the the iOS 7 point whatever it will be we'll just like so double everything yeah if developers have created their apps properly and not just rasterized all the graphics if it's just a matter of changing the resolution of which it the layout works jumping from the 4 s to the 5 all they had to do is add I think like 170 hundred and yeah they only had to add a few vertical pixels but if they jump to six inches I don't think they're going to go the route of another iPad Mini Fiasco where the display is just horrible so they're going to have to change resolution eventually in that and that's probably the worst part of iOS is is the way that the the interface is developed and where android is usually pretty much screen size and resolution agnostic you can write one layout and it worked for you yeah it works for so many different screen sizes and resolutions iOS is much less like that and it creates some problems developers but you have to understand that and you have to be willing to upgrade your apps if you want to continue to make money so i think so i think about this from sorry cut you off taylor up from a developer versus user standpoint i mean we can see reasons why developers might be hesitant for Apple to introducing the resolution like this will be a little headache for them you mean if they don't have to tweak their code that much sure it'll be maybe a little in the way but everyone's going to do it because the iOS App Store is still the place to sell your apps and developers no hem in their Hall but they will make those adjustments they will make them quickly to the end-user the impact should be minimal we're going to see new apps refreshed straight away you're like no apple is not accepting the request for the iOS like the apps which are compatible with iOS 7 like if someone has to give an a it was a will have to make it I always have incompatible like with the look and feel of iOS 7 otherwise Apple is just like ejecting it then yeah yeah you do here and bring it back with the look and feel of iOS and with a Nokia Maps the gut I pulled from the store didn't like it didn't mesh well I would sound another well that's someone's matter though yeah but then I mean since they have such a high resolution already for the ipad i think meeting in the middle and creating another resolution should be pretty simple because they've already developed applications which are at a much higher resolution than probably anything that a new iphone resolution what I think blowjob discretize of the I time there are smaller screen size of the ipad like specially designed for 95 so Kingdom known would be the reverse thing like taking the opportunity for our iPad dude I phones that were like which is not possible yeah I think speaking I pass the most important thing for Apple going forward to the site about resolution wise is the aspect ratio difference between its tablets and its phones that's ya gotta be more annoying it seems to us from the outside for developers especially you know those making games things that are designed to be full screen and not using so many modular text boxes they can slide around so easily I can see why Apple like sticking with 4234 it's tabloids they've had a lot of success with it but I could have to wonder how sustainable that's gonna be going forward it's such an odd size and resolution know what is making you having your windows cleaned I am I just realized that imagine that okay Sonny thank you very much for being here and please do come back next week when you have some more questions for us any final thoughts early or like that my camera not you because I see that you have a Twitter account there you know people where they can find you anywhere a size from Twitter area you know every real I mad at watch parted VOD sba rdan like a fifth calm / wats part in the google com g+ jour tu tío as last boat party cool and i can I can't not laughs I'm looking at Taylor right now and there's somebody dominated let me lock it on you for a second let's enjoy it yes yeah i'm gonna guess down the line I'm gonna have to music video on you do I mean yes video bombing me I'm gonna have to view whenever we go to someone else because he's like banging on the window right now so let's let's move to a Stephen let's do cheese yum yeah okay how about Lawrence I'm you're you're Mike and say hi good morning guys hey how's it going great there's my first life that I've ever washes for the show thanks watching and you're on it this is the way to start your live hangout experience it's very really cool all right you know first off I just want to say how much I love watching you guys and reading the updates in your videos actually stopped following the verge completely um no very much there's a slow clap from me to you whoa slow clap I you know I something about ces that I was really excited about and continue to follow up on is wearables I I think it's such an exciting area of tech that is growing so fast and I just want to hear what what really excited you guys better tech mobile started wearables aside from just fitness trackers you know what kind of wearables really caught your eye well that's going to be a for me is going to be a very short answer nothing because let me explain we were very amped on covering some new smart watches and apparently most of the smart watches which were on display at a special part of i think it was central hole they were either prototypes or non-working dummies or things which we would really not like to cover as in boy like things and I really think that in terms of watches babble aside there needs to be a company depending on some people's opinions Apple to really make a SmartWatch and set the trend because of course Babel was the first one and we're comparing everything to pebble and now the Samsung Galaxy gear is improved with its new firmware but aside from these two players on the market there's absolutely nobody else bringing some innovation to your wrist so if you ask me I'm amped about the pebble steel I love the way it looks it does not answer my needs because I'm just a one second away from taking my phone out of my pocket anytime they lurk and can attest to that so it's really no useful for me but maybe somebody will go not saying Apple maybe Sony will come with the SmartWatch 3 and bring something which I will find interesting then I'm going to hand it over to guys if there was a ninja story on the feeds yesterday I didn't get a chance to cover it but someone noticed they were going around the sort of Southeast Asian markets where one can find a lot of this crappy knockoff electronic you phones that look like an iPhone on the outside but are running some skinned up android/ios you something and they went to all the stalls and they could find all these knockoffs of electronics from other manufacturers they couldn't find anyone making a knockoff galaxy gear okay and this was presented as some sort of metric as a failed product so bad nobody wants to even copy it as I interestingly to evaluate how we're really how the market is responding to the this first wave of really interesting wearables of yeah maybe we're not ready for them I don't know well I can definitely say that the biggest takeaway from me from CES was pebble steel I have an order one myself and that's probably because I'm gonna I'll review it they said they're going to send us some review ins uh from some review units either I or Michael we will review it but i really liked go one hand one who's reviewing it i win but uh it just I don't know it doesn't need to be improved all that much I'd like to see a few more things on it but that's going to be brought with the App Store so for me pebble steel is you know a great step forward for the company if you don't count the editorial that I wrote and got lambasted for over yesterday the one about firmness for women yeah and you know and it needed to be said because as much as there are a lot of women out there who were fine wearing pebble as it is or even a pebble steel or galaxy gear my mother would love a SmartWatch and she will never wear one because it's not fashionable and if there were one yeah um and and I have ran into several women who have asked me about it who've asked you know what is that and why is it giving you messages on your watch like why is this and this is really cool why is it so ugly or do they make one that's a prettier or you know in it in its it's not just that men would like a smaller SmartWatch 2 it's just there's nothing out there specifically for women and I wasn't trying to insult anyone it's just something that that Michael and I have talked about several times we heard that Apple might be coming out with multiple sizes for the iWatch yeah and that'd be great i'd love to see just different face sizes or different watchstrap lifts like that's a very thick with four watch strap for for someone with a small wrist I have big wrists so it looks small but outside of that so outside of pebble steel that the risk zone risk revolution or whatever it was that was at the very best laughable there were a lot of analog watches with very tiny displays that would give you a note of my friends yeah it's just an icon saying that you got a text message that's what you have to pull out of your pocket anyways did everything work right so speaking to what Tony said how pebble is not very useful for him because his phone is you know seconds away at any time when my hands are full I just twist my wrist and I can see what email just came in or you know I can control my music from my wrist with my phone across the room so there are things that work for me really well and the reason I don't go a day without it but I think as far as what's on the horizon pebble steel right now is the best thing that's on the horizon but i really look forward to what a lot of the other companies who are rumored to have smartwatches coming and Google glass and all the other wearable technology I look forward to seeing what that really entails I wanted to happen to those google smartwatch rumors well yeah we will purchase twim' labs so the whim one is actually technically at google smartwatch now if you want to get very technical but as far as a specific google watch I figure it's coming if you check whim labs their website it says that they're working with a partner right now and that all of their stuff is confidential so I don't know I checked that yesterday just just to see but I personally am a watch collector so I've got plenty of watches analog watches that I wear on a daily basis so I don't need another on risk display for notifications one wearable that really caught my eye uh doesn't have a display at all it's called Kiwi move did you guys check that out at all I've heard of it but I can't remember what it is it's uh it's loaded with sensors is about an inch by managed by half an inch you can wear it like a star commander badge you gonna wear it on your wrist it takes voice commands does gesture based controls I think that's what really i will take things ahead and that you don't necessarily have to wear it on your wrist you're not checking it for a notification but you can control devices by voice or gesture looking at it does look interesting it was seeing on the site here the sort of reminds me of that that Sony was at the core yep it was a wristband thing but he was a modular actual sensor and it could I mean theory be put on pendant or anything else that you would wear under new it wasn't quite this vocation as it didn't have gesture recognition but I mean that idea of sometimes less is more we don't necessarily need all the feedback you get from a something like the LG that like and with the display and we don't necessarily need that for a wearable because we already have our phones on us we can get feedback information as long as they're all connected and talking to each other yeah again all our then to that's a huge benefit there are a ton of those fitness trackers out there and I have the Fitbit flex which I'm probably going to take back I've quit wearing it all together just because I just I sit at a computer all day I don't need to know I don't need something to remind me that I'm not gonna have your sedentary lifestyle yeah the misfit shine is very similar to that one but it doesn't take the voice control so I'm trying to find the one that my roommate it's absolutely going bonkers over and it's one that uses some sort of light to measure the caloric intake through your blood and all this other stuff like I don't know idea what it is but it sounds cool and it's only like 160 bucks but I don't remember the name of it so give me a second I might be able to find that it never rings a bell to someone using a optical feedback in order to judge caloric God that I was very skeptical of that when I heard it but I mean you have optical based blood oxygen meters so knows maybe I'm being too quick to dismiss that so one other question that I have what is unrelated to CS but very new in the news is Google's acquisition of nest and and home automation I you know between wearables and the future of home on of automation you know it's a joke that you know I should buy some stock and sky in it yeah aren't you worried that Google knows I mean so much about you wearables it has your location it has your physical stats and knows how warm it is in your house when your when your home when you're coming and going it's it's a noise I swear yeah we're in trouble that's true just much more like this alright so I found it it's called arrows a ir oh and it looks like every it looks like the life band touch from LG just flattened and a little wider but it uses a spectrometer to measure your caloric intake it tracks your food for you just pretty cool also measured your heart rate and a bunch of other things supposedly says stay updated but you cant buy it yet so that's all I've got and I don't see a price 49 these guys you may pre-order one for 149 before it goes up to 199 as its final reef retail price so yeah fitness tracker that reads your caloric intake that that could be interesting because that's probably my biggest problem with Fitbit flex and the force is that to be able to do anything with it you have input all of your calories and if you don't have a structured measured diet then you don't really know what your caloric intake is you're just estimating so yeah the big thing with fitness trackers is or with any activity tracker is you get so much information uh what are you going to do about it you put it in context ok so I slept crappy last night or I didn't walk as much what am I going to do with that information and how its dedicated to that next step right it's not like you don't know that you did not sleep well i'm adding about someone made these um smart Sox they have emitted sensors on that can detect your weight distribution and whatnot so you shouldn't generate a lot of data every step you take its measuring not only like a manometer on a fitness tracker that you're taking a step it's mapping how your foot hit the pavement how you you pushed off again and then you know you load that onto your phone sure you can in theory use information to tell if you your strides wrong and probably setting yourself up for some sort of leg injury in the future but how do you analyze that that's a lot of information that go through and even if you know that where do you how do you implement the changes in your stride to correct it then and without you know apps getting a lot smarter about processing this stuff all of the the sensor data in the world is not going to do us much good yeah I don't need a pair of socks tell me that I overgrown eight and yeah but I'm flat-footed my over pronate like I don't need socks tell me that yeah but if if this arrow could work you know if it's right and it actually does accurately read your caloric intake that to me would sell me like I would wear it I don't need a wristband to tell me that I'm lazy and that I said no that I got all day to know exactly how many calories are consuming every day well yeah that zeroes on there yet that's kind of how I lost a little weight last year I just kind of started watching what I was eating and keeping a very rough tally of what I was eating in my head and you know having something tell me exactly what I was eating and how much I and taking would be very helpful for me and and to the fitness trackers they were always for me kind of a an inspiration to get up and actually move but when you work very long days and to waste much with your time and don't actually have a priority of going to the gym it's kind of hard to do anything different about it so and on that on that note I'm going to ask Laurence if he has any final thoughts because we are we're past the one-hour mark and I really need my bills I know that that was all I again great coverage of CES knives to all the quick editing uh and videos that were posted you know I was watching a ton of those on chromecast and once again great work guys thank you very much I was sitting in a corner and Anton was like whipping me while he was shooting he was holding the hammer and whipping there you can say that if you say that once again people might believe you duly noted a care Lawrence thank you very much and be back next week I we hope we didn't scare you too much with your first appearance on the live show I love it take care about and gentlemen Taylor Stephen do you have any final thoughts before we wrap this up um I don't really okay that girl me crazy with your car talked in Vegas and I did the same with you too shall we we are kind of on the same wavelength now for a couple of weeks until we forget about what we talked in Vegas but I have not yet met Stephen in person and I have not spoken to him since I left for Vegas so Steven Lee I got it I'm not thinking about that yeah I meh meh i'm a once but you haven't crossed paths with you in the state's what did you sound about that maybe maybe you'll this summer when i will probably be on the proper coast on the coast which doesn't bring me the viruses to bring home we have all sorts of problems of our own hurricanes it will find something to ruin your trip and rednecks oh yeah at the end speaking of that not rednecks not that everyone who drives a Camaro is a redneck but in America there are Camaros everywhere this is what tony was going crazy over in Las Vegas and I was trying to explain to him that I could step out my front door and throw a rock and probably hit more Camaros than I have fingers on my hand you know like it's just they're everywhere I hate you I'm probably sitting for rocks at Camaro owners uh yeah but I was just gonna say that since I've gotten back I've probably seen like 80 thank you so it mean it's just it's crazy i've been paying attention to it now because you were so crazy about him I'm sure sugar next I'll see 1 i'll be in the US again yeah we'll send me pictures of Lamborghinis and Ferraris and i'll be happy I will ooh and on that note ladies and gentlemen well actually we were supposed to have a lady but she did not make it but hopefully she will next week is when I talk nice use of the week off button there well yeah without it using the mute button went mute button on others I love that yeah thank you very much for watching I just lost my video I'm not sure this can see me again thank you for being part now Lulu thanks for everybody for joining Thank You Taylor thank you steven and hope to see you guys next week in another formation maybe with mr. Fisher and mr. I met Rivera until then everybody have an awesome awesome we can stay safe take care bye bye see you later