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two major announcements from two tech companies Apple had the courage to remove one of the most standardized cable ports ever created from the new iPhone 7 the Apple watch 2 won't turn any heads in terms of design so will people buy it the air plants feature some incredible audio technology but will folks adopt that commander Uhura Trekkie look or if Apple isn't your flavor we also have this beast of a phone to talk about called the LGV 20 these stories plus we're answering your questions from Twitter and the live chat so make sure you're charged and ready for episode 2 1/7 of the PocketNow weekly others weekly podcast is where we dissect and discuss those gadgets that make our lives mobile smartphones tablets and wearables it's all the stuff you wished existed when you were a kid and the term earPod sounded like something which would have required a visit to the school nurse a senior editor of pocketnow.com blasting this signal from sunny Southern California fresh from his trip back from Berlin and were joined this week by the man the myth the legend mr. high made it ivenna I'm really happy that you're fresh dude I am still nah yeah I was I should have put fresh in giant bunny rabbit ear votes there it's I'm still recovering from from that massive trip over it over to Berlin and are all of our exciting coverage from the ephah 2016 show for oh yeah and of course we're also joined by plucky podcast producer mr. Jules Wong how's it going out on the east coast there buddy boy I feel like a frozen TV meal right now yeah yeah that's my boy nice and cold I guess that's the point me first it's not really first now is it in Boston here in New York it's um it's not Chloe it's it's hot all the way down the seaboard so that humid weather and I suppose it's just so fine and SoCal right now feels like home yeah well actually you know what is it what we're doing this is actually gonna be one of the warmer days of the week before we hit like a nice little sort of as to fall as we're gonna get here in Southern California so I think it's gonna hit a high in 90 today so that's not too bad that's enjoy deliciousness and joy yeah so folks um before we get into tech tomfoolery Mr Wong would you be so kind as to explain how people will be get a ballista the so especially considering all of the changes that we're trying to troubleshoot while producing this show in real time I was about to pretend that blast 15 minutes did not happen in this timeframe but know what it's just been fun getting through my problems feedback all that it cut this time but YouTube I might you know if you're listening to this and was in the podcast the audio podcast I'm gonna step this all the way in the back so that you can find out yourself what's going on but anyways you can also give us live feedback if you're here in the video lands just head on over to our Twitter page and tweet at us with the hashtag P and weekly and just go at it crazy we're talking LG we're talking Apple looking the iPhone 7 and V 20 today so tweets about those very pertinent very useful to us and we'd appreciate those and if you can't come in if you are listening as I said post Morton mortem is that is that a term I can use here post more than a share in a podcast at pocketnow.com and send away any emails that you may wish or us to answer yeah we already have a couple PN weekly comments because I mentioned commander Uhura in regards to the air pods we Col Joseph P and weekly had a Star Trek 50 reference and Andrew Wallace mister at fat produce everyone should be wearing Star Trek shirts and of course here I am rocking my Star Trek shirts I need invest in like matching well we would have to decide which Trek you know well I'm wearing a SuperMario t-shirt by the way oh you're gonna do Super Mario instead oh yeah yeah no can you see though yeah yeah that's cool that's what the hidden coin the hidden coins oh yeah so the picture the t-shirt is an American flag and can you describe what's at the bottom corner wait it's flame thrower Mario about to over uh he's stomping over a coin box we're just part of the flag because the flag is made of bricks just like old Mario one good we have - Mario we have to commemorate Mario reaching iOS yeah well definitely something that I want to talk let's jump in right there because I think that was actually a really huge piece of news that I was kind of disappointed didn't get like a big reaction from people so I tweeted out like this is a huge deal Mario and iOS and a lot of people sort of shrugged and like I don't think you guys understand even though this is just a silly little running game this is like one of the biggest licensing meet multimedia deals in the history of licensing IP on different platen on Nintendo stuff no I feel that Apple Apple simply owned it I you know I feel that if they would have left this announcement for the for the end it wouldn't have had the same effect you heard the crowd the crowd went wild not everybody went nuts and why because I mean we all probably Mario is not as relevant for newer generations as it was for us thanks for us weaker I don't know I don't know I do know that hey my kids love playing Super Smash Brothers but it's because they still have a you know they still have a week because I've always felt the min Tendo has been more of a kids you know they've always been more family like I think that the gameplay dynamics and just the whole theme of Super Mario Galaxy those games for the Wii I've just been you know we've been able to be revolutionized have you know just reintroduce Mario to our young kids so yeah I think I agree that it's the room exactement Riverland so it's the reason why my kids have a weed but I don't know it's not the same case of every generation you know right now we're in the PlayStation and Xbox generation where Mario is irrelevant where Nintendo is dying and obviously Nintendo is making this move because they need that relevance again and you know I think that sim cook started the okay so this is a funny this is a very interesting fun fact about tradeshow coverage a tifo with one I have never met an individual that plays more games with his phone than one true sorry I like so I like playing games but I've always been like for example I have to be carrying a Moga around I love controllers yeah I love the concept of controllers and I don't like not being able to touch to feel the buttons and so I've always been a gaming controller user and because I did not bring the Moga I simply did not play anything but my god you know it's this is I think Tim Cook had a point where he said you know the largest gaming platform right now or mobile devices true and you know I think I think that whether a Nintendo likes it or not even if they're the medium or not the medium it doesn't really matter what's important is for these brands to not die off over the necessity to keep written in Tendo being a relevant brand where Mario on its own is a brand yeah with or without Nintendo well but I think also imagine happening here in introducing Mario to other generations this is one of those opportunities for Nintendo to show that this character is still relevant and especially in the fact that Nintendo hasn't had quite the same strength of hardware and console sales they've had in the past I think this was a brilliant strategy to bring these two together and answering some of the questions we have in the live chat and also Joel G Joseph on Twitter using PN weekly the PN weekly hashtag lil Mario beyond Android at all or is it Apple only and from what I understood this is an EXO window for iOS not exclusivity yeah it's limited and it's going to be on Android at some point but until that point which we do not know if this game called Super Mario run basically you know it's more it's a more fleshed out platformer 2d platformer than other thing I mean we're talking about competitive one-on-one competitive competition what game is this just think about it think about and where did it order the inspiration no no where did it pull the inspiration 10 flappy bird you told me this is pretty much flappy bird oh you think this looks like Mario temple run to me think about it this is flappy bird what all you're doing is pushing tapping on a display for Mario to jump it's pretty much flappy bird they're just pulling on that concept and that's and that's what they're building upon I was trying to write news pieces around this and not looking at the video game footage so take a second just to check it out but know is especially in AI I think when we saw what happened with pokemons go we got a clear indication that this isn't just a fad this wasn't just some sort of experiment that this was a very successful way to bring content based on a certain intellectual property to different markets into different handsets into different devices and so I you know I'm not shocked that Nintendo made the move to eventually bring Mario to mobile phones I'm actually surprised it happened so quickly then from the front Pokemon go and I'm sure they've been working on this for a little while but from Pokemon go that the next property that they were ready to release was probably the biggest icon of the Nintendo platform in Super Mario yeah I agree I I think I would be surprised because I mean that you didn't dislike it zelda or you know metroid you didn't try and slow play it you went to the big dog from mario gonna see what else they can follow it up with nintendo is the most agnostic out of the major gaming console companies i mean you have sony and they have their own interests in mobile and yes microsoft they talk about their own this terrible as both are nintendo seems to me getting away Wow you're just heading off any potential like Sohni iron you know instead of getting bogged down in that let's let's shift gears here I know we sort of got a little off topic or a little out of out of order but I want to start the show off with because people are already asking me a ton of questions about this let's move and see if we can't chat about the LGV 20 let's knock that out since we have the the one major phone announcement from LG this week already getting so from Andrew Wallace at fat produce asking if this is going to be my new spirit phone or there's a huge fan of the v10 last year so we got a little hands-on time with the the V 20 it was definitely a pre-release pre-release product that we did most of our initial testing and first impressions on so we're gonna we're gonna have to shift some of that commentary over once we finally get retail units coming up soon but you know we do have videos out comparing the v-22 the v10 the g5 then doing a full camera tour full audio tour you can catch all of those videos on pocketnow.com or on youtube.com slash pocket now and I because you were off covering the axon 7 mini while I was spending a little time with the V 20 I really just kind of wanted to get your impressions I'm a on what you think on how you feel about LG's reveal here this was a very busy season for LG a very busy window for LG to drop their second phone of the year against announcements from Aoife note 7 news there was a lot of that and then the next day talk and iPhone so this is funny Tony reaches out to me and he's like so who do you want to do the LGB 20 coverage and I'm like why and he's like well because one really wants to review that phone and that he looks at me and he stares at me I mean one really really really wants to review that phone I don't know the different every leaves in that and so I'm like are you sure he really wants to go because he does let's yeah I don't want to go it so I I guess I was really just to give an idea my favorite phone last year was the LG g4 um I did not spend enough time with the v10 because by the time I was able to get my v10 unit in January it was already galaxy s7 season yeah that's true I I wasn't really able to play with it like Jules you were the one that received one of our units I think well I know actually not unit and I guess everyone would you know Michael Fisher who back then was kind of incapacitated because he was dealing with the Lumia and the Prive so I would basically like to do my review on on my unit and also I interesting fact I actually broke two units the screens I mean that's impressive what screen repairs because apparently you should never shoot review videos outside or on gravel in case you wanted but so the thing is I obviously I was it's not until I was really exposed to the phone that I really I feel that LG really did not show off everything that the v10 was for me my top of mine of the v10 last year was it's got a dual screen and I guess that's all for me I guess LG did not do a really good job at telling us it's the same great camera of the g4 but you've got you know an audio tag that you won't hear on it on any other phone you've got milspec milspec protection it's a I didn't wear any I mean it was imaged by carriers as you know is they were kind of a you know stricken between multimedia which was a t-mobile's angle and then you know multitasking productivity because of the second screen you know it's the most it's the most visually eye catching thing about it and then most people were disappointed because it had the Snapdragon 808 and so and so 64 gigs of storage natively I am for giggling man I know but I feel I feel that I feel that LG kind of did that same mistake this here um I feel that the company could have looked for a better window to announce it absolutely something they would have not stolen the thunder of the stone because honestly after seeing once coverage and everything I was like oh wow I wish I would have gone with you like this Phil looks really really cool I really wanted the g5 to be my phone of the year because of that dual camera approach you know I was at the presentation of the g5 and I was totally sold by the presentation and sadly the phone I remember when I unboxed the phone dude I set an alarm because I knew the phone was gonna be an early arrival on UPS I knew that that phone was gonna be here at 7:00 a.m. I sit in the lawn for six I was like I want to be ready it's not because I wanted to do that unboxing or anything it wasn't that I really really really wanted that g5 and then I pull it out and the thing just scratch my hand and I'm like what I'm like what and so I guess this is the g5 that I would have wanted it's a little impression the finest compression I'm just I'm just hoping we get two units one so that you so that you're not the only one that gets all the fun three units make it three come on it's like so LG we're gonna need a dozen LG villains to properly conduct all of our reviews and tests but I guess the point that I'm trying to make is I feel that this phone is being underestimated um after everything you showed off at the video especially the whole quad acting and everything you know I feel that this film deserved more limelight it deserved more predominance and I don't know I I hope that it doesn't end up being just another v10 for LG where people didn't really care much about it even though it was a great phone you know I have to say that was one of the one of the interesting and I don't want to use a word like concerning but you're sort of a troubling aspect of the conversation when we were bouncing messages between us and LG PR that their expectations on this phone are very low in terms of overall sales and then how different markets might be on itself like we're hearing you know it's probably gonna be slow played in Europe if it ever gets released there at all and then um that the carriers are exerting a lot of influence over what features or accessories might be included so like in the United States we might not get those bno earbuds yeah just like we didn't get the AKG earbud so if you had a south korean v10 like i do you got these amazing AKG earbuds in with the phone if you got your v10 through t-mobile that was gone and so when when we look at those all of those influences coming together all those aspects coming together and especially what you because I completely agree with you Jaime I feel like LG's messaging on this phone isn't on point they're not really getting across what makes this device special mom I feel like we're probably in store for another fan favorite device like if you're a fan of this phone you will know about it you will be passionate about it but it's gonna barely scratch and yeah yeah well let me be a little bit outside loop here because I haven't touched the phone I even for even you know thought of the phone for a little bit since the events that night when all the embargoes went up so the you know news coverage business and I'm talking about business press here so Reuters and CNBC and all that and even like some of the mainstream like local stations CNN you know some of the feeds even deigned to mention the LG v-22 even mention this launch and you know why they mentioned this launch it was in the face of the galaxy note 7 and it's battery recall and combine that with the fact that LG is trying to remake itself after the horror horrible g5 sales performance this is what people are somewhat paying attention to now they're starting to pay attention to the LG v 20 and I think LG does have a more cohesive message this time around because we've seen a concerted effort with Joseph gordon-levitt and his hit recording hit record Joe yeah hey there paper core Joe more multi hit record sorry Joseph gordon-levitt is behind it record and they were responsible for that v10 ad with people like whistling sort of a day-in-the-life kind of stuff yeah daily music that you create and so they're gonna be I actually saw the the if you go to hit record you can actually see the project that they're creating that they're gonna be working the v20 into also so a little things like that really did help sort of bring exposure to the v10 but I kind of feel stuff like that still falls into the same trap that we saw with the g5 advertising this year where it's really neat that you gave me Jason Statham in a wig and a dress riding a motorcycle why is that neat because it's Jason Statham so that is neat but you told me nothing about the phone outside of some wacky random stuff that you just awful though but and again again in getting across to consumers why would you consider this phone what would what would be the the killer app for someone considering this phone especially since that conversation is a bit more focused on the V this is I don't believe LG has any illusions of this being some sort of widely accepted soft around the edges all-rounder good enough at everything kind of device I still expect that even with some of the improvements to the battery capacity and we get a more power efficient and more powerful processor this probably will not be a battery champ this will be a hard on the rails content creation and multimedia consumption device those two focuses taking us outside of the normal sort of well the note is good for overall productivity and the Galaxy S is sort of an all-rounder and the iPhone is good at everything I think LG has a winner here if they're nailing this demographic but I don't feel they're reaching that Democrat yeah the problem is the problem is marketing I'm gonna take you back to the old Beach audio ads pre Apple this is free Apple you would see up these are either soccer players or baseball players or basketball players exiting a room where they're they're full of the press the press is complaining about something or asking them information and they just don't want to comment they don't want to comment and all they do is put on their Beats headphones in their ears everything goes blank and they start playing music so what do they what did beats say with that ad it doesn't matter what noise you're hearing beside you you put on your beats in the world goes away all right so I'll counter that with the iPod heads which were which were well into the iPods um I don't know life cycle and we saw these stupid ads of people's silhouettes dancing in you know colorful backgrounds but that's that's one of the most iconic ads why it wasn't because of the black silhouettes dude what color are the headphones that you're wearing right now or what color the headphones are pretty much almost every phone that launches with included in there the color of white headphones he's wearing really wide oh they're white what the whole idea was to create a brand around wearing white headphones and back in the day the only way you can get white headphones was with an iPod why the black silhouette it was because they didn't want to deter so what's the problem with I don't even get the whole white ear from one thing in the first place you're complaining about a Jason Statham ad that is diluting the whole limelight of the g5 what they did with the iPod ads was simply let's remove whatever artists we can put here or whatever dancer we can put here because it's not about them the ad is about the iPod the triad is about making the iPod look hip when you look at iPad ads what do you see you see people working with a tablet in so many different ways and even though I still debate if the iPad is good enough for work it's what I'm using to record this this the audio for oh come on I'm not the average consumer I'm sorry people like the conversations we need to have in terms of outreach well is I because I completely agree with Jaime here I think the least successful ads are the ones that focus on making celebrities do wacky the mana robert downey jr that that's not an ad and i have to say that the only company that I think has actually successfully given me a celebrity focused ad with Samsung this year whoa Mike what's God pouring champagne on his I had a number of people in my circus family and friends who didn't know who that guy was by the waltz the Christoph Waltz oh yeah what all of these things have in common all these ads is that they focus on one USP unique selling point and have some Korean of some celebrity really hammered home any like relatable person and well I I'd argue that with Jason Statham he wasn't one person he was 50 billion in that in those 30 seconds and I had sort of deleted from the point and you know what that was fun but with you know we haven't seen any you know campaign with LG you know and it's v20 just yet maybe the the whole you know social media you know living life and looking at things is great you know arts kind of thing is gonna be great for them yeah it from from some some grassroots conversation Joe G Joseph using the P n weekly hashtag he also put in hash tag no case life he's referencing the more rugged build construction on the v-series phones oh yeah 810 a transit drop complaints that's right so you know we're gonna begin by applying battery cover complied have you guys seen the Android authority drop test for the oh my god like that battery cover like flew off on every single oh I don't think that's a bad thing I really want my size right my okay no I'm just gonna say you know there are number of different approaches that we can we can utilize when it comes to device integrity and you know what like for example the Flex is an interesting idea from LG in terms of making a more durable device because the entire phone casing can bend yeah you can still shatter that screen but you have to really requires a different type of drop than a glass screen will so when you've got a device where the force of an impact can cause the battery to eject that's the force of the impact causing the battery to object if that device is sealed up there is the potential that the force of that impact is going to ripple through other components where that energy can be expressed in different ways so it's not necessarily I mean it looks terrible it obvious it totally does but it's not necessarily a bad thing if your phone flies to pieces on those pieces that are supposed to come off of the phone yeah I can just I can just see the moment when people are like shoot my battery just fell on the sewer hole wait let's let's leave that conversation for the air pot shall we yeah go ahead Jules no I was just about to say I do like the whole new approach that it LT took to the bill old a little more silicon-silicon for the back it's a magnesium aluminium alloy and then the corners are silicon with an E carbonate so that it's more shock absorbent yeah radio session and shock absorbent 20% more than previous supplier nouns computers will miss the steel rails from the LG v10 I thought that was a sharp look but all in all I know we've been getting a lot of comments on the videos on on our YouTube channel that the the design is super ugly and I'm I kind of find it try it on under like a blackberry and a Motorola had a baby and it ended up looking like an old ThinkPad and those are some of my favorite business looking devices I think it looks sharp I think it looks clean and we haven't even touched the software I don't know how because because I want to say and I really want to be clear here we did our testing on pre-release software very early pre-release software so I have to believe that LG is going to provide us with the ability to replace the app drawer just like they did with the g5 right now the current skin is very much like an LG flavor of emui from Huawei you have no app drawer just everything's on your homescreen I would argue about that with the aperture is that Google's in apps as function is meant to sort of be the replacement to that it's just when it comes to organizing everything I think there gonna be some old fogies like me that really like the metaphor of shortcuts when I need them for most commonly used things and then app drawer for dumping everything else in and then there's a guy like me who prefers not to dig through the app drawer and organize things and folders it's exactly such a funny such in such a wide world of different opinions and cultures and people's coming together but you know we're gonna be digging in super deep on the LGV 20 the real camera review we're gonna be throwing it through some of our exacting headphone audio tests see what's up with all of those quad Dax and amps and whatnot and then a whole slate of comparisons once we have the final release version of the V 20 in our hot little hands hopefully we can get one for Jaime too because I'd love to do sort of like a compare and contrast like see how you feel especially opposite the pixels that are going to be coming out the the new iPhones that we're gonna shift over to serve and I think there is an interesting fight to be had between a phone like the note 7 which represents sort of the pinnacle the top-tier most expensive and most sort of feature complete idea of a phone from Samsung they would expose well yeah first is something like the V 20 which I don't think that LG is looking at this to be the winner for everybody I think LG really is trying to focus this down into a slightly narrower demographic and those two fighting especially if the different price points that we're seeing and almost $900 phone versus I think t-mobile listed it early for their pre-orders at 600 you know do you really get two hundred and eighty dollars more phone on something like the note seven if what you care about is photography and multimedia so definitely a lot of questions we're gonna be digging into a lot of coverage that we're gonna leave but I think we need to shift gears now and talk about the other major series of announcements it came out of Cupertino and of course Apple took the wraps off of iPhones and Apple watches and ear pods and stuff so we're all really excited about that whoo those three ones joining me on a whoo no weird no let's start off let's drive with the biggie let's start off with a major announcement obviously I think what we were all hoping to see and get good info on was the iPhone 7 in the iPhone 7 plus we have two iPhone models all of those early rumors surrounding a potential iPhone Pro obviously that didn't pan out we've got these the the same smaller and bigger general form factors but we see I think a top-to-bottom approach to reengineering the casing and touching up some of those technology issues that you know Android and Windows Phone fans have been kind of hammering Apple about in over the last year in terms of bringing the iPhone into more current territory against against competitors yeah well I would only argue that that would be for the jet black even though a lot of resistance has been a black I pulled off on arguments tools let's just talk through the iPhone first so that we can share what device is actually well we went into arguments about Mario and the LGV 20 before we go into the it's okay mr. kuffs ready iPhone 7 what are your thoughts oh my god I think this is the first time I have been excited over an iPhone since the iPhone 5s I remember that in the case of the iPhone 5s it was that fingerprint scanner we have seen fingerprint scanners for years we have to remember back then no company had implemented it well and I just saw so much potential in the whole concept of that plus the larger pixels on the camera I've always the main reason why I've always been an iPhone user is because well number one it was I've made the jump since the iPhone 3GS and I've just followed that but it's also because it's also because I've always had to carry two phones and before that I had to carry a telephone a cellphone and the PDA and so I always like to have a small unit to be my phone and obviously the PDA and usually what I would do is I would have an iPhone and a note so it would be whatever current iPhone it was the smaller variant plus a galaxy note since galaxy note 2 I've been a note user an Oracle user forever but this is the first time ever that I am really enticed over that iPhone 7 plus nice I am for a couple of reasons number one the whole approach to the dual camera I can't think of how many times I've been in situations where there's a photo that I want to grab and you guys know that I do love to do a lot I do love photography and even though I'm not a professional photographer not even close to that I do like to play around a lot with photos and like for example we were we were at Checkpoint Charlie one yeah the photo that I wanted to take at Checkpoint Charlie was actually closer than the one that I published on Instagram the problem is I couldn't get any closer right and and you know obviously if I digitally zoom to it you crop it in I I was gonna crop it in I was gonna lose detail and I hate zooming into photos because of that crop that's generated a software never does it well enough obviously because we've we've blown into a trend of lesser megapixels in cameras in order for these pixels to have larger microns now this actually hasn't played well over over this year particularly so I'm really looking forward to see how Apple plays off that topic of zoom because I can tell you many times where I really don't want to crop into photos but I really don't want it I have no way of zooming in and I really don't want to carry the bulk of an extra lens or one of those old clips or stuff like that I don't want to I don't want to fumble with any of those things I just care about that number one number two you know the are whether we like it or not the iPhone 6s the iPhone 6s plus and the 6 plus were the battery life kings and I've been really disappointed with the galaxy note 7 mainly because of its battery life I feel that if every other phablet in the market has really focused a lot on on providing a ton of features but not improving one of the main reasons why the phablet market became so famous years ago if you guys remember the Galaxy Note 3 was the king of battery life back in the day that Snapdragon 800 processor I mean the phone was it was amazing for tradeshow coverage and everything and now you and I have to be hauling battery packs everywhere we go because these phones are just not reliable enough so I'm really I'm really excited about the iPhone 7 plus like I haven't been over any other iPhone in the past for those two particular reasons I really want to get a look try to that camera and then you get the 5.5 inch model and just stuff it down your pants well I already I already do that with with a note you know that I really did I did a comparison between the galaxy note 7 and the galaxy and the iPhone 6s plus the size difference is not substantial I do feel that I do feel that Apple could do a better job designing it like for example I mean screen I plan on Android versus on iOS that's a big difference look at the size of my hands and I can't even touch the power button I feel that Apple I mean come on Apple well the criticisms of the the fact that it is a 5.5 inch screen in something that is normally in the size surface area territory of phones with you know five point seven and yet almost 6 inch screens in some cases depending on how they build in bezel space you look on cramming that stuff in it's it's amazing the seeing I have to say like this year for Apple in me has actually been pretty positive I know a lot of people and likely a lot of people are gonna hammer me on this in the live chat is I thought the iPhone se was a really smart reply to this market of $400 phones is starting to creep up you're never gonna fully escape the Apple tax but I have so many members of my my family who are actually really excited about a phone that can replace their iPhone 5s and that they don't have to buy new cases for but they get the you know better camera and a faster processor and a better fingerprint sensor so now moving into the iPhone 7 I'm happy to see some style issues addressed I don't love the look of the antenna bands on the pink and silver version they're terrible hazard white cutouts that don't unless you get jet black unless you get black mmm you know that's the only phone that's gonna do a better job with that and obviously the matte black which is the other option don't don't we feel that this is a little uncharacteristic is I'm gonna start with just the fashion side of this cuz Apple really has built themselves up into a lifestyle brand more than a tech first company yeah don't we feel that this is kind of an uncharacteristic misstep for those versions of the iPhone where wouldn't it make more sense to make those bands more in keeping with the color of the phone like how that bands on the rose gold version I've been done fighting about antenna bands and design with Apple they they gave us black bands on the black iPhone and I think that was just to remember the launch of the iPhone 3GS if you wanted to get the white I phoned 3GS you had to go for the 32 gigabyte model it was only available in that variant and it sold out like immediately there they're just making one model more aspirational than the other that's what they're doing well that's that's what you know and your model is more than a technology company right every new season brings that season's variant you know like thank you for this season is is rose gold new for this season is right no jet black but what is why that's been step no no but what my point is why produce an iPhone in pink and have these weird non completed and tena band line that also are not pink that to me is obviously the probably probably the material doesn't look good and think I mean probably accept colors you're like it's not really biggest most ideal thing but but ultimately though when when we're actually talking about the tech and I actually wrote an editorial on this on on pocket now is there are so many little tech aspects and lifestyle aspects on this phone that like the iPhone se I'm feeling very positive about this iPhone even though I am not particularly an iOS fan I'm really curious to play with Apple's approach to a dual-camera sensor obviously we've been looking at dual camera sensors in real consumer facing products since HTC delivered 3d on an Evo and then moved to dual sensors on the m8 and then Huawei has how does a different approach to the p9 where both of the sensors have the same focal length and now we're looking at Apple carrying on in the same conversation that LG had this year where the two sensors have different focal lengths so you have a normal field of view and a really really wide field of view Apple's approach obviously being a normal field of view and then giving us a 2x zoom so we've got a in 56 and I agree I think um Panther Zi is asking the right question with the Korean weekly hashtag is a 2 X zoom really as zoom worth mentioning or is it in my case is it is it even worth you know having that extra benefit of just you know at 2 X's you know when you were composing your shot at Checkpoint Charlie and we were dodging that McDonald's with all of their checkpoint cheesy signs I really wanted to get that KFC dude I was crazy about getting rid of but it's you know that this so this is the problem why did I like the LG g5 so much I mean they made that they made a compelling point over a wide-angle lens being so useful to you because there are places like for example in Barcelona you want to take a photo of Saigon familia there is a point where there's a fence behind you you just cannot go back and if you want to take a photo of the full church it would involve trees if you can't walk any further back so in the case of the I've also been met with cases where I really want to take a cool photo of something that's far away and so here's the thing there is a 2 X optical zoom but apparently Apple has and you know Apple has been famous for the way they play around with their cameras I'll give you I'll give you a perfect example the iPhone 6 had zero stabilization I could I could go out running with the iPhone 6 it was very rare in Guatemala that there's a specific volcano that emerges in early in the morning and it only happens certain days of the week depending on the amount of humidity obviously I didn't want to stop running but I really wanted to take a photo of damn okay no okay I would pull up the phone in a life proof running I run at eight thirty minutes four minutes per mile which is you know not slow but yeah a thirty good clip yeah it was not slow I would pull out the phone like this running take the shot put it back in finish my run and I knew that the photo would be stable how did Apple pull that off I have no clue with no stabilization so I you know they are offering up to ten exhume in a sort of a software play that they're gonna be doing with both lenses how are they gonna pull it off I don't know that's the reason why I'm like I'm curious I cannot wait to get my unit and give it a try and you're gonna be doing that real camera review as well one I'm sure I'm sure that there will be you know more of a I'm sure that there will be use of scenarios where we'll find the need for it and you know for me I would rather have have it than not have it at all I mean for $100 more if I can get all these features I would have preferred obviously to have them on the smaller iPhone as well but if I have to go plus the if I have thick let's try I will I've been I found myself in cases where I need the zoom and it's not there you have to walk into that and you know there are cases where you're gonna get run over by a car or something if you do well I don't want what I don't want this to be is a token implementation because first of all you're taking two shots at once with both cameras so it wouldn't you if you're taking one picture you're actually taking two and the software is that you know you when you're pinching the zoom you know you'll still you'll be on that first wider angle picture when you zoom in and I want you to hit 2x you get sent to the would be like oh geez where you know you can zoom in and it's a digital crop and then once you start pulling back out again once you hit a certain threshold it pops you over to the wide-angle camera too and that purpose I think I think it doesn't you know 2x is inadequate because you know you still get you know a very decent detail up until May 3 or 4 X so why not do you know go farther instead I know I think so I think so and it doesn't I know you know glass you know glass maybe for them because it 28 don't know how far you can pull them my Mary Austin II how Apple is going to handle things like low light I know that that the telephoto lens has less aperture as we really expected but you know one of the main reasons why I avoid zooming whenever I'm filming is mainly because of that amount of aperture that's lost whenever you start zooming the lens closer to whatever product that is you're reviewing and there are stasis where I need the low-light where I would rather approach the subject just to you have that low-light available to me so listen Apple is not the company you know they've done a few gimmicks last year with the iPhone 6s still Apple is not really famous for gimmicks they're famous for you know trying things out repeatedly until they get it right before they launch it on a product so again I've seen so many attempts at optical zoom and they've either looked terrible or the implementation has been bad I mean I remember the Galaxy camera you had the 10x optical it was 20x optical zoom but then they use the sensor of the galaxy s4 why don't you just you know sell me an adapter for it and give me it was terrible because of the sensor so I mean Apple is investing a lot in the sensor there is this new ISP that they're calling the image since image what image they gave a processor sensing processor hey maybe we're in for a surprise I mean Apple became really famous ever since the iPhone 4 for image quality it took competitors it literally took Sam's I imagine iPhone 4 was 2010 Sampson wasn't really able to compete against Apple in digital photography until the galaxy s6 no I think the note 4 oh well the note 4 but it was a very clunky camera but remember that you know four it was fine it was a really slow phone no nobody the s6 only just brought back the features from the note four there was a little software polish but the no for true but but but the difference between them is four months in launch cycles well yeah so just think about it that was what 2014 it took Samsung four years to catch up with Apple four years so I'm curious to see what we get I guess well and well not only curious but I cuz I'm kind of with you I have every expectation that this is gonna be a really smooth performer that now we're going to have access to other apps being able to capture the raw data yeah that's a really big deal I don't believe we'll see that in the actual iPhone camera app but just the fact that you'll have access to it just like we see on a number of Android phones you know the stock camera app might not have the ability to capture raw but you can still get it if you use a third-party camera app especially with the number of iPhone third-party camera apps available so a little little things like that I think are gonna be nice updates for things like content creation I of course because we've been getting so many comments about it we had to put it in the name the title of this video I mean how you feeling about losing the headphone jack what do you think about Apple's solution for I was headphones in and then also maybe moving customers over to a wireless standard okay let's forget about the wireless standard I am definitely not gonna spend a dime on that I'll let you explain first like so we got we've got ear pods that are gonna come in the box that have a lightning connector on them then there's also going to be a lightning connector adapter so that you can plug in regular 3.5 millimeter headphone and then one of the major announcements from this show was a pair of bluetooth wireless ear pods called air pods to have these little white antennas that stick out past your ears so that's what you so you're saying I mean you you're not you're not gonna touch those that's not your jam that's not what you know so here's the thing these are my Apple earpods the only reason I'm using them right now is because these are my go-to headphones for the Mac because I can control music with them and I can control the volume levels of the Mac with the controllers but I never use the headphones on an iPhone or on any smartphone or on-the-go for many reasons number one because my ears are dramatically small and petite as they are these air these ear pods are constantly falling off my ear up to the point where I have to be investing in these gels you get it for $10 on Amazon and showed diesels give you wings that snap you know that snap the the ER bought it to your ear so I can I I tweeted about this when Apple announced it at the twit you know the tweet blew up because I was like I cannot wait to lose my first ear paw air pod and I'm just gonna lose one I'm sure that I'm just gonna lose one not two right because those things fall off I feel that when it comes to economics it's their terrible 169 dollars for a pair of ear pods that are not organic at all I mean either need to get your opinion on this Jaime because you were the one on the show floor I got to go visit them but you you did this great video on Jabra Jabra has a wireless ear pot earbud solution and then also I think Sony Labs is looking at coming up nobody has that Samsung has their their icon X um sadly I haven't been able to actually try a pair ad from the Jabra I mean genre I've been a jobber customer for years but not for audio I've been a job rep customer because I feel that they make the best Fitness headphones ever yeah or me because I sweat like a machine and you know i I've invested in bose you know out of my own money I've paid for Bose Fitness headphones I've paid for a lot of variants and none have survived the way I sweat like Jabra have you know they do amazing amazing water resistance and they have great audio I guess the problem with those with those Jabra headphones is that they only have three hours of battery life for me that's terrible yeah but the cool thing is you know you know if they would tell me okay I'll remove the heart rate monitor because I really don't use it on a pair of headphones I've already got my watch doing it and both of them are just accurate if you're not using a band on your chest it's pointless yeah so I would rather remove that our bad in life but I love that these headphones from Jabra have the wins that I'm talking about so you're sure that they're secure on your ear whenever you're using them they've got four microphones for voice cancellation nice and you've got all the music controls embedded on on the on the on these headphones and you can use them in moto or in stereo how ever it is that you want in the case of the air pods you have some of that functionality for me the problem is the design the fact that this plastic is really slippery they're gonna fall off your ear and I can only imagine the next trip on the subway when people are gonna start knowing what air pods are they're gonna know that they cost 169 bucks and it's gonna be a simple walk behind you grab them from your ear and take off a bolt right exactly and say go I was also gonna ask because I have refused to put your pods into my ears since the very first iPhone that they came with which I've already forgotten which one that i phone 5 iPhone 5 so you've used the ear pods how do you feel that they rank for one listening to music and then to sound tracking a workout in blocking sound around you oh they are okay so it's funny these these ear pods if you listen to reviews of mine from years ago I would use the old iPhone microphone as my microphone for these reviews that the first out dailies were recorded with that with that microphone it was really good the microphone on this is bad there is terrible noise cancellation and the only thing that's a benefit for me is the fact that I can control the audio on my Mac and that's the reason why I use him here but you saw me one I use a pair of LG over the Year headphones oh yeah because again they don't provide the greatest they're very loud but they're not deep at all gotcha they're very loud and that's just about it so but the problem is that the average consumer is you know not going to be looking around and investing 150 160 hundred seventy dollars on a pair of headphones you know if the phone came with a pair of headphones and all they're gonna use them for is while they compete on the subway the last thing they're gonna want to do is invest on them so you know I that's the reason why ear pods are so famous simply because they come in the bar that's popular just because they're the most accessible come in the box you buy an iPhone and they come included that's the only reason go ahead Blaine and then you tease beats with like three products using the W one trip that's gonna be you know using blue two with that Bluetooth with that special sauce whatever and the whole point of the W one ship is simply being able to talk to iOS products easily I find that cool I find it cool that all I do is like sweet I like that the air pods have five hours of battery life that's a benefit I love that they have an accelerometer so they don't need buttons you just tap on them and you know they'll respond for Siri or stuff like that I wonder how they're gonna be able to control music is that's one of the major deals people use these controls a lot on on ear pods I don't know how Apple's gonna pull that off but okay that's one thing um the second thing is the five hour battery life the third thing is you pair them with one iOS product and then through iCloud it'll bring that pairing on the same yeah yeah and so I love that about Apple you know that simplicity where I know that if I logged on to my Google account on the Mac because I have iCloud keychain on the Mac it'll transfer that login to my phone to my tablet to everything and makes it seamless so that's really cool but I hired that it can just work I'm just saying you know that you know if beats you know goes out with the solo maybe and you know prices it at $1.99 they're just shooting themselves in the foot well I think that yeah they are cuz those I mean I'm sorry those airports look terrible they just do I mean think about it there's no appeal to them they look terrible so second question that I that I had about ear pods in this Apple ecosystem because I'm really glad that both of you sort of brought up that's for the air pods you know there's an eye your Apple account sort of helps manage yeah the security for which devices are gonna be pairing with a piece of hardware now I know a lot of people that just use their smart phone headphones to also plug into things like laptops and tablets and do we think will there be some kind of adapter you get your ear pods you have your iPhone 7 then you go over to your MacBook which has a USB C port on there is there gonna be some pass-through or another adapter because in here you want to be there for just Mac Apple iOS devices it's still running on Bluetooth that is the nonono earpods not air pause okay so here's here's the thing I remember who I was talking to yesterday the scene that's gonna be the nightmare for example if you just bought yourself a new MacBook the new MacBook doesn't have a lightning connector there is no Mac with a lightning connector so you know you know Apple is like breaking bolt here and the reason why they're including that adapter of lightning - 3.5 millimeter is because you know you're kind of going to you're kind of going yeah you need one transition device but then but then that's the problem I won't be able to use those ear pods on the Mac because there isn't a backwards so I don't think that there is a lightning - 3.5 millimeter connector the backwards right the male yeah yeah well they're thinking on that is that is yeah I'm hearing myself with the feedback this is fun yeah this is this is this disease is spreading so with the ear pods going in and like the adaptors there because they assume that they have a degree that users have a really nice pair of headphones that they'll they want to use anyways besides the ear pods so you know they I think that's a tacit admission that you really don't want to be using your pops because they recognize that you know you have other products and if you're if you're gonna put in a three-and-a-half millimeter you know headphone into the adapter than Apple's kinda sort of lost the battle on and we've had a number of questions we've had a number of questions from people about things like backwards compatibility so let's say you get new ear pods will they work your pods with a lightning connector will they work on older Mac's like can you plug them into an iPad and as far as I can tell obviously we're gonna have to some of this stuff as far as I can tell that won't work I think you know your pods on an iPad will as long as there's a lightning connector they'll work it is if you have a fit if you have a fifth-generation iPod Touch which has a lightning connector they will work well but we don't know that yet they will work it's just the lightning protocol is the same so I'm gonna know the lie to call the lightning protocol for data is the same but well okay so so the protocol was expanded with iOS 8 they're having there have been there have been lightning headphones ever since iOS 8 and all iOS 8 devices and after are compatible for lightning audio but do we do we know that those other Lightning devices don't have their own DAC why wouldn't they well no no that's the point I'm trying to make is if a pair of headphones have their own DAC then it's just the data from the device going through the Lightning connector and then the phone is responsible for for producing its own sound pretty much if these ear pots so when we see a 3.5 millimeter adapter there is a way that has its own no it send the phone don't does the dot if it's in the phone then that means Apple is taking pin outs and wiring which would have went to the 3.5 millimeter adapter and is rerouting them to extra pins on the Lightning connector if that audio isn't being routed on an older device then newer ear pods will not work unless those ear pods have their own DAC and I don't think your pods have their own DAC you're the audio expert my friend you will be able to tell that's what I mean so when it comes to just the data you're right if the if the headphones if your headphones have their own DAC and their own amp built into the headphones then they'll work on anything with a lightning connector because that's just an USB style audio connection but you know to actually generate the sound waves that we listen to you need a DAC in an amp if these ear pods are relying on a special rewiring of a DAC an amp built into the phone then older products will not be able to use these newer devices so a little bit a while back showed a the little adapter as a pre-release thing or like something they got from Foxconn Vietnam factory and they tested it out and they with one of their older ear pods and I believe it worked and Eden even said like the iPad the iPod or sorry the iPhone that was running iOS nine could not recognize the the adapter so this is something that I just wrote on on PocketNow so I've got a moto Z and the Moto Z doesn't have a headphone jack but it has a USB c2 3.5 millimeter adapter yes is a standard USB C plug but if I take this plug and I try and plug it into another phone which does have a 3.5 millimeter adapter these don't talk to each other there is no standardized yet there is no standardized the adapter the adapter no but if you get a pair of JBL headphones with a USBC connector that were pretty much designed to provide audio through the phone and I believe that they should work because USB C on its own does support audio this is like so I would say with JBL they're probably including their own DAC it's there there has to be something there I mean this is like the early days of Bluetooth you remember you remember the early days of boots where we're depending on the version of Bluetooth that the product had it could support keyboards or joysticks or or but it couldn't support audio it didn't have eight what was it a 2 VP I think that was the that was the big like you know exciting ever bluetooth 3 hit it was like major um but yeah you know I feel that there will be a transition period I just listen this is like Apple Apple has done this so many times they launched the first iMac they got rid of the they got rid of the disk drive the diskette and everybody who said that Apple was crazy the funny thing is Apple is not the first company to get rid of the headphone jack OPO had done it before HTC I mean think about it pocket pcs pocket PCs smartphones did not bring a headphone jack Apple was the company that brought it back with the first iPhone but if you used an HTC or a cue tech or any of these pocket pcs that we used years ago none of these brought a 3.5 millimeter headphone jack it was everything was connected to the so that many it was to the mini USB connector back in the day I have a you know I'll have to say that that is courage yeah Apple has the courage that magic courage that helps us move forward in this tech industry that no other company except for Apple and Lacko and Motorola have or had before Apple managed to find their this this is not new I just one thing that I do know when you and I had the conversation one and I don't know we I think that I would like to end my comments with that if we want higher quality audio on from a smartphone I don't think that it would be that easy to do with a 3.5 millimeter headphone jack how old is it I don't think that you see that's that's another thing too is is the age of a cable standard really doesn't mean that that standard is obsolete we're capable of driving a 32-bit audio signal over a 3.5 millimeter yes but you need what within the phone a nice DAC okay how big is it well you that we currently have them in in HTC's I know I know but I guess I guess the point is you know I guess the suite is into either I guess the point is these companies want to reduce the size of phones they want to make them lighter and so I guess it's I guess I would have loved for Apple to include a USBC connector on the iPhone and if they want to charge through lightning that great I don't care but I guess the biggest complaint is the only problem with me using lightning is shoot I don't only have an iPhone right and what if I want us 200 $300 on a great pair of headphones but these are USBC well and USBC is going to be the standard that wins because we know apples gonna be shifting over their products to be using USB C on things like MacBooks so exactly lighting now looks like so this odd outside player it's just Lightning is also going to be the connector used on the single most purchased solitary line phones in existence which is that's in that solitaire line is the one that sells the most accessories sadly yeah totally whether we like it or not so I I hate the lack I for example even the MacBook again the Apple's MacBook doesn't have a lightning entry it has USB C and a 3.5 millimeter headphone jack so I'm sure that MacBook owners are scratching their heads it's just that fragmentation that I hate but do Amaya matte believe that the 3.5 millimeter headphone jack is dying no actually I'm not I'm actually ready for higher quality audio that can be done digitally through a you know a different protocol again I'll be really curious to see if that actually comes to pass though because it all comes down to a DAC in an amp and all we're doing is moving where that DAC and amp are and I don't necessarily believe that that's really going to provide us with higher quality audio I I think what we're gonna end up with eventually are phones that don't have this Hardware built into them the DAC and built into them because will then have to buy headphones that do and I don't think that's gonna all we're doing is migrating so you'll still have for most consumers will still have crappy Dax and amps that are built-in to headphones and then you'll have to spend significantly more to have the DAC and amp be nicer in nicer head ok but tell me tell me something one how does this work the clip mics that we use you're the expert on how Sennheiser was able to pull a seven $700 mic element and make it work on an iPad so what I've got is is that extra little dongle that's that's sort of built in there this little blockading is communicating with the hardware built into the iPad so it requires extra lumps or extra pieces that are going to be sticking off of the main unit right well I mean it's all about signal processing you know I am really impressed with this microphone man I mean I'm really impressed and it's all enabled through lightning well yeah but that's also because there's a big lump on the cable that allows yes but what would that what that big lump have worked through a 3.5 millimeter headphone jack is the question well that's all if Apple had included the microphone connection to be of a higher quality on the iPad or the iPhone there's not a lot of contact there for a single input because it's a 3.5 millimeter headphone jack again that's not necessarily the determine dose factor of quality jewels you want to move on don't you we have 10 minutes for the Apple watch and you know what I'll just say it GPS waterproof speakers done I ladies and gentlemen I despise the Apple watch I will admit it I spent $400 of my own money buying it and I regret it it's the clunkiest thing on the planet the most convoluted and most confusing SmartWatch in the market Android wear continues to be my favorite Quan uses a pebble like there's no tomorrow I have to review the Apple watch I it's that I have to order it today um I am going to order the Nike berry and hopefully just to see what the difference is good I'm a big I'm a big Nike Plus user so I would like to see what differences are there I have no high hopes here because yes there they're adding a dual-core processor now even if you buy the Apple watch one you'll be getting that dual-core processor I think that was a smart move but I think the problem is not a problem of hardware it's a problem of software implementation it is extremely convoluted and confusing and you know Apple wants to force you to think that a SmartWatch is about the apps and I'm sorry it's not I can't even tell the difference between the timer and the clock in the Apple watch and and and I never do I completely forget to think and handle apps you know all i care is what's on the complications on the sides and that's pretty much it what's at a glance available to me because if I'm gonna have to be interacting and looking for an app to launch I might as well just collab with them right no absolutely the longer I have interacting with the tiny little screen the more I wish I should have just taken my phone out of my pocket and exactly why I like the pebble is that it's focused on a very a couple key features that I think it does really really well and then applets I don't really care about I guess the main question that I've gotten the one thing that I'd like to spend our last couple minutes on this podcast together on again Apple lifestyle company they're really trying to make their Brandt their product more about you know sort of incorporating people's style into it it's it becomes that kind of a discussion on on a on lifestyle so with the Apple watch to being almost exactly the same form factor in shell as the Apple watch series one do we think that consumers are gonna adopt the newer product or do we think that they're gonna look at it see they that they that they look the same largely and if that style fits their personal fashion is there any incentive to moving to the to the Apple watch to I think that there will be a lot of Apple watch ones on eBay right now Kenneth crear and people will I think that people if people have already invested in liking the Apple watch because I knew I know about three people out of three hundred that actually do like the Apple watch and if hey I just listen for me the biggest problem with the Apple watch is $400 for a stainless steel variant that has a not an ionics glass bottom and then that that glass bottom actually scratches with the charger so what's the point about paying $400 for a watch that becomes really unreliable about its sensors over the course of three months because of the scratches on that bottom you know I would rather buy this polar m600 watch that I'm currently I'm working on a review for this thing my god this thing is almost as accurate as a heart rate as a chest strap right right and then you know this thing costs half as much it's got Android wear it could be your full watch if you want if the band's tear at some point you can snap the bands off put something on and hey if you want to use a regular watch for the rest of the day then you can you know the problem is the other watch tries to be everything and sure you can swim with it but tell me how many people do you know are swimmers very little you know we're about to go into the winter so it's not like if you're gonna take this thing to the pool that's definitely a user scenario that's not gonna exist the only thing that I'm really stoked about is the GPS yeah because yes GPS functionality like the Apple watch 1 was very inaccurate when running you know it was pretty listen the Apple watch was the first SmartWatch you could take out for a run without the phone I give Apple that but it was very inaccurate very inaccurate and so you know I bet that's the problem you could run with an iPod touch if you wanted to running with the I with the Nike application and the pedometer was very accurate on the on the damn ipod touch the minute he took the Apple watch out it was like night and day so you know I feel that it's the the problem is the Apple watch tries to be too many things it is not durable enough to be that so we'll see what we'll take we'll put it for its pace and we'll see if it survives the testing well I think you'll see I I don't think I'm gonna be spending any time gonna be curious to see what you think I'm just to wrap up here we've got some some more some more comments on the PN weekly hash tag Joel G Joseph he's he's upset that oh no I'm sorry we've got Panzer Z Panzer Z is outraged that his Android wear won't have that Pokemon go app hopefully we'll see that transition over some some cool pokemons go features that tie directly into apple health which I thought that was actually kind of cool seeing how whenever you have a fun app it automatically sends your data over into Apple health so I think that that's a pretty cool implementation same thing with app folk at fat produce give me pokemons go on my LG watch urbane or give me death forgive me I think the stakes are that high so we also had a really funny photo come in from fat produce showing han Solo in the Millennium Falcon advanced tech spacecraft that can travel faster than the speed of light still uses a headphone jack on that headset there and then uh from from at NIMH bug from my friend Amir you know because we were talking about dual camera sensors so what's next will there be a triple sensor for normal wide and telephoto lenses and of course someone instantly popped up the light l16 if you haven't seen the light l16 i would totally recommend checking out the images on that cuz it's a crazy looking camera back with all these different cameras and distance and meter sensors on the back of it to hopefully improve your photography so folks there you have it another episode of the pocket now weekly has come and gone this show is ending but the conversation continues on Twitter where you can find mister hi mate Iveta as at hi may under sundar score of Iveta there you go and of course Jules is at point Jules and I'm humbly at some gadget guy pocket now is around the web on Twitter Instagram Facebook Google+ YouTube and our home site pocketnow.com were basically everywhere now shows 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