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good afternoon everyone I believe we are finally on the air it is time for the samsung galaxy s4 event the one that we've been all waiting for early some of us I know that some people that are joining me in this hangout today are kind of skeptical about what will be getting from Samsung obviously there is we've got Brandon minimum we've got Michael Fisher at the events Adam line is joining us eventually from Times Square everything is happening live everywhere and it's kind of hot we're kind of crazy here and we wish we were there but joining me now is our managing editor and Tandy knock good afternoon to you sir good afternoon to you guys ah good afternoon to you mr. Joe Levi how are the chickens over there you are muted Joe something's wrong I'm here I'm really here I'm doing well thank you well you probably add the chickens or what I'm trying to keep them quiet okay and from is it North Carolina or South Carolina mr. Taylor Martin its North Carolina everybody line it would it talk about that Otis is that noise that is Adam Lane coming to us live from Times versus probably some men used to playing in the bank yeah yeah we're trying to get Adam to show with some footage from Times Square obviously you can imagine how many people are there right now so most likely the transmission is not good Brandon and Michael have told us that the data connection at the event is terrible this week again as expected and we don't really know if they're jamming it on purpose or well we don't know they're probably just wanting people to concentrate there's a lot to expect from the galaxy s4 and the first person I want to talk to about this the person that is holding the HTC One right now lift it on please show it up to everybody come on make me envious of you mr. anton dainik tell us about your experience with the HTC One I mean are you really expecting the galaxy s4 well that's two different and difficult questions and I don't want to spoil everything because we'll have a full review coming up on pocket now at the beginning of next week but so far I can tell you this much that the HTC One here in I hand is everything I ever wanted from an android phone and it's actually a phone which I regard higher than Apple's iPhone 5 or 5s and that's a huge thing but also this phone has some flaws as it is right now and is an excellent phone if only HTC could fix one major flaw in my book and you will read about that and see about that more on one of my tomorrows pieces so so check back with pocket now tomorrow to see that why am i assuming that you're gonna start talking about the camera you are assuming probably right I don't know I and I want to talk about this okay so for example this is a gun you're talking to high memory that I hear this is a guy that wanted the HTC One X so bad ever since I saw it in Barcelona I wanted that phone and I went crazy over that phone and Tony can tell you I mean he pretty much had to grab me just to not go and try to steal one of those from the demo units and the problem is when I got the phone help my experience was sadly that the camera wasn't great it was a beautiful phone well-designed and Men the publicity behind the camera was awesome but sadly it wasn't as great as they publicized so I guess that's your problem Tony yesterday on the podcast I I said something about HTC and then I said something about Samsung and I managed to get people angry on both sides and I said that beach to see HTC is very good at doing some solid hardware with beautiful devices and excellent build quality but they don't know how to make a good camera and then Samsung on the other end is good at the bringing you some huge specifications and excellent user experience but they don't know how to make beautiful phones and the materials are not as good and as premium as on the HTC One for instance but i hope that samsung today will prove me wrong now tell me something i mean it was really cool you saw the photos that we uploaded on facebook for those of you that haven't noticed please follow us on facebook facebook.com slash pocket now or twitter.com slash pocket now as well we've just changed our twitter handle by the way and you'll notice in the feed that Michael was able to capture a photo of HTC employees or HTC we hopefully hearing you know I paid oh we have the live feed Adam you there can you hear us oh man there you're transmitting already and we are losing Adam he's coming back let me see can you can you focus on in Tony it's it's out of him it's static on him but unfortunately his image is also static oh man well I guess the network there is terrible but the point being is for those of you that were following this are on for those of you that we're followers are following us on Facebook you'll notice that Michael was able to upload some photos of what was happening at the event at New York City Music Hall and you'll notice that there were HTC employees showing off um you know they were giving out water and chips and I like what HTC is doing I I considered cool i mean they're they're finally being aggressive with their marketing i find it awesome i don't know about you guys you know I'm gonna hand it over to Taylor and Joe after this you know what I like what I loved this morning everybody knows that I hated samsung ads which were against Apple but I hate every ad which is against another company and now Samsung got what what they did to somebody else LG posted huge billboards in times square just above Samsung's billboards so that when I saw that thing I just basically started the blood in here just like more on this morning yeah more oh no in your case is I mean Taylor and Taylor and and Joe you both have had the galaxy s3 sorry just disconnecting hey he also had audio can hear as Adam how's everything at second oh man we had at first I Dana lots of dogs people there don't use what ok so both you guys have had the galaxy s3 I don't know if you still have a job do you still have yours no you said it to me no I I got to set it on I need to get the packaging over to Taylor I finally found it it's right here ok so are you guys like boring glory yeah so bottom line are you guys waiting for the galaxy s4 is this your next daily driver going forward no probably not why not I don't own the piece on it today I think we had Taylor i'll i'll tell you about my pieces yeah i think we both wrote on on the s3 and i don't know exactly i didn't have time to read yours but they weren't all that different i don't think ironically uh I was never really in really interested in this device the day it launched or even if the announcement I was just kind of underwhelmed to me for samsung to market this as a flagship device it holds a very feature phone like design that's what I've always felt that the rounded corners less so in the white model but more more on the blue model which really I guess the primary might want it the rounded corners just made it feel like a feature phone no no I like I like the blue model a lot more than the flag than the white one serious I just didn't like it and as you guys are holding up your please both hold up your galaxy s3's yeah there we go and I'm holding up my notes too and we don't have an s3 mini we don't have any of the other galaxies but yeah as you can see guys all these phones are looking the same and this is my biggest problem with samsung i mean i could put up with this for one year what are your in 30 phones but can i put up with this for an additional year and plenty more phone i'm not sure even even not LG how it is that no wait wait a second Joe what is that oh wow that's why I HTC g1 or g2 to whatever it is I had to pull from my stack of phone so I've got my galaxy nexus which is essentially a an SG s 2.5 because it came out between the two and the three but I had to send the three over to tailor so I don't have one of those to show off so I just thought I'd show off in a way my old favorite my old standby so just for those who are joining now right now we are covering the samsung galaxy s4 event we are here live on youtube michael fisher and brandon minimun are at the venue in New York getting some hands-on time after the event and Adam Lane is trying to join us from time square life and let's say how about guys we recap what we know up until now or what we think we Adam Adam is actually being able to show us something there there a lot of people there and it looks like if it's raining Adam can you hear us I don't think you can I never hear you tell us about that is Clara I can hear you sometimes but it doesn't stay connected for very long it's okay I'll ugly well there's like a line to go into a box and do the haryana do they have the phone the still working okay yeah we can hear you yeah we can hear you and we can't hear you anymore this was very good in theory this is awesome in theory yeah well a man i mean we sadly cannot rely on data connections from everybody but anyway sonal mexicali xes so far the galaxy s4 is what i would consider oh here we go Adam can you hear us Adam killers yes yeah you're sure sure yeah yeah we can hear you're telling us that people are going into a box and he's gone again gotta love it turn it I love it anyways well the galaxy s4 in my opinion is probably one of Samsung's best-kept secrets I seriously do not have a clue how these people had figured out how to hide that phone from the media and we have not seen real leaks of the phone until the last week and I think it wasn't that hard to hide because it looks a lot like the galaxy s3 um I think that the only thing that changed on that phone and correct me if I'm wrong we're definitely going to know soon oh and the Samsung of that is already starting by the way apparently we're they're getting an ad oh yeah they're starting right now yeah it's counting down okay apparently the the only thing that's really changed and I have this old blackberry bold 9900 here whatever they've faith yet they've added this metallic trim around the galaxy s4 and the question is is this really metallic or not because the problem of the galaxy s3 is it looks metallic but it isn't um the I guess it's a Chinese site the one that had yak and extensive hands-on with it and posted yeah a 7000 word article 10 really I don't know how long it was that they had probably 30 40 50 pictures on it um they did a key test on it and it's plastic boopie like like the s really like the note 2 yep oh it said it's got a metal rim they said there's a metal trim I can drop the Lincoln if you want it to my article please so you know I've been asking myself that question i mean i know the galaxy s3 is fully plastic but on the note 2 I don't know but this feels it feels strong is it plastic or not well I I'm banking at the right now but I cannot tell him oh I don't know it's a fact it's kind of hard to tell Adam can you hear us I could actually a symphony at this place you're not playing around it was a sin funny last year when i was in london for the galaxy s free event then that was cool i was going to ask you how was that galaxy s3 event when you were there tells us it was majestic samsung managed you to have the london orchestra actually stringing the samsung tune on the stage after the introduction of the S free which was which was awesome thing is that everybody as usual with what events like these whenever the event was over and we got invited for some hands-on time behind the stage everybody was just rushing in like crazy but the event was good see I hadn't imagined yeah go ahead go ahead I was about to ask you how about we tell people what we we know right now from the league's and then maybe compare what we think we know with what will happen yeah go ahead you started off ok so so far so far we we've we've been hearing lots of rumors and the recently a Chinese version of the dual-sim variety of the galaxy s4 or the alleged galaxy s4 got leaked and the specifications include a 5-inch four point ninety nine inch full HD super amoled screen then we also know that it might be powered by an Exynos processor which is the octa-core processor in Europe and in the u.s. it might be powered by the Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 then again we have a 2 gigabyte of ram and a 13-megapixel camera ok let me interrupt you for a second we've got Samsung's president already on stage he's obviously most likely gonna announce the phone I like this guy on stage because he doesn't really he doesn't really talk you know he doesn't really talk at all he's just like this is the galaxy s4 there is directly say very brief letter the vote he's saying this in the best few weeks we've heard an amazing combination of rumor and speculation about what I'm going to unveil tonight so is it may be a confirmation of the rumors or is it may be but it was just rumors and we're gonna learn something completely different well think about it I mean they've kept this so well a secret that they could have leaked that phone in China on purpose and you know probably will be getting something else I mean you never know nobody saw the galaxy s3 by the way I don't remember any leaks of the galaxy s3 before we actually saw it on stage if you guys remember that there were a lot of them but nobody knew it actually looked like yeah because it was in the Konami box was in a dummy box thanked exactly who never knew about the specs yeah we know about the specs and all but we didn't really know how the phone was gonna look and I don't know I was underwhelmed by the galaxy s3 when I saw it for the first time I mean when you saw just you know let's just go back a little bit in time here I mean if you look at the design of the One X and you compare it to the galaxy s the One X is a beautiful phone there's just no denying it and it was really hard to improve on the One X when it came to design and the only thing that Samson really did was do better marketing and delivered on what they promised so I guess I guess there was a lot to expect but now one of the biggest rumors is on software apparently there's gonna be something huge on software and we've it is just I don't know it's been just confirmed that the eye tracking technology is in smart scroll and smart buzz and also the floating touch as in air view is also in so for those who have the galaxy note to know that the when you hover the stylus the S Pen over the screen it will automatically allow you to interact with the device and Samsung is bringing that to the galaxy s4 you will be able to hover your finger on the screen and interact with the phone by the way readers and viewers if you are catching us on YouTube you know there is so much stream that we sadly cannot read the comments on YouTube yet so please do us the favor of joining us at pocketnow.com on the post that it is a sticky it's right there on the front page and you can leave all the comments you want there and we will definitely read as much as we can during the live feed we sadly cannot do it from youtube at the moment it's it's a really a struggle but I don't know about you Joe whatever you thought about all the leaks of the galaxy s3 of the galaxy s4 time well you know I really haven't considered them leaks I've considered them just a whole bunch of speculative rumors based on odd information because it you really can't call it a leak it they've done so good at keeping things quiet keeping a secret it's all been just speculation it's been people in the industry who think they have some information and are making iterative gases about what they're going to come out with whether or not it holds true or not we'll find out in a little bit well we already heard about we already heard about Taylor on on his impressions on the four do you want the galaxy s4 Joe you're a nexus guy God between the phone that I have now and the the sgs4 no I'm I'd like to see what I'd like to play with one I'd like to have one in the hand just to see if they've improved on their hyper glaze and whatnot and the whole touchless experience that that they're talking about right now at the event sounds impressive but I don't know if the specs are going to justify let me interrupt you for just one second we also have some new details about the software we also in addition to smart scroll smart pause an ear view we have s translator and group play which is going to make you be able to listen to the same music on multiple devices and then we have s health which will help you make stay healthy and Samsung Knox km 0 X which allows you to use the same phone for both work and play you know the interesting about that group sharing music you remember that well there is a capability in the galaxy s3 where you can take a photograph and share with the people that are around you how many times have you actually used that thing Tony never zero you know if this is okay wait a second apparently apparently they are about to unveil the phone let me just hopefully hopefully we'll see it come on shows the phone let it not look like the galaxy s is and it's the galaxy s oh boy oh well whoa hey where is your live stream faster than mine or something so we need to wait apparently as faster than mine too ladies most live stream ladies and gentlemen the phone we've seen leaked from china is the galaxy s4 yes and it looks like the S free and it looks like the note 2 and it looks like all the 30 other galaxies from 2012 the galaxy honey we can't see your stream than mine hey this guy has got 100 megabits per second down that's that's what he's got I'm not gonna allow him to brag I'm gonna say that for okay so by the way it is not gonna be called the galaxy s4 as in Roman numerals anymore he called the galaxy s number yes I am remember trying to to drop of the picture here but I cannot so I'm gonna just shoot it over to Taylor because he knows his way around much better than I do Taylor please shared this picture with us where'd you send it your email okay so looking at the phone does that bezel look quite a bit smaller than what we're used to on the s3 probably a melon well if you if if you take a look at the note 2 it's about the same bezel I'm trying to put it in the same perspective as the picture which I have and it's it's exactly the same and it looks yeah Jase it's kind of hard to tell you don't you know what I'm probably most underwhelmed about is the fact that TouchWiz looks like TouchWiz uh I don't know why you as and you know I love the fact that Samsung has been able to figure out TouchWiz meaning it is not laggy it is extremely responsive but it is just so oh it is just so water directly it it will be available in 155 countries starting the end of April so far no information about US market and specific US carriers but it will support LTE networks on all frequencies and here we have the picture 7 operators here we have that's gentlemen ladies this is the galaxy s4 and you had already seen it and we had about 50 this week uh what do you guys think Tony happy underwhelmed I hope I I said at one point that the Samsung has to deliver two things in order for me to get the s4 over the HTC One the thing number one a better camera which they will probably deliver and thing number to a new different design because I'm sick of the design of the S free end of the note 2 and apparently the design is the same and even if the camera is pure of you like I'm still going to go with the HTC One and this is by no means a pocket now opinion this is my personal opinion no no it's great and in my case you know I actually like the the the Santa the galaxy s3 design I just I don't know man I'm gonna look like everybody that has an s3 already so what's the point of swapping the phone I mean probably the only difference is the camera and I'm sure that Samsung is using the same sense for Sony they always do so you could probably tell us a little more about that sensor with the Xperia Z that you just reviewed Taylor um it was pretty impressive I'm not gonna lie it's not the most amazing thing I've ever shot a picture with a new in my life but uh it's impressive Brandon actually complained to me that I posted two nights of pictures in my review and and the problem is i guess this is it's half me trying to take the best picture i possibly can but it was half the performance of the camera was impressive the low light was awful low light was absolutely terrible but I think everything else was pretty good right it was hard to take a terrible picture thinner i also have a question for you is just likely related to this if I know well you had a beast today which was entitled wolf samsung full a apple iphone 4s with the galaxy s4 i wanted to tell you about that i changed it to five because it's a slightly design slightly bigger so i went with five on that okay do you still believe that yeah it is that's exactly what it is their location software features then okay listen so it's a four point ninety nine inch display full HD 441 pixels-per-inch how much was on the Xperia Z or the ZL I believe had a better pixel density right Taylor the same lip of that the same 5-inch 1080p display so it's 40 Gabba yeah but how much was oh it was the same TV i right yeah but they're calling the screen full five inches and it's 441 PPI buddy mi HTC One has a 4.7 inch screen just a slightly smaller width 468 PPI it not that it matters because you won't see that difference anyway there's just this that's also it's also pentile at least that's what the the chinese site said so it's pinto and 1080p pintail isn't as significant live in tomatoes it might not matter but I under the microscope they could definitely tell a difference um what maybe the thing is it white or gray excellent the pack of the problem is the pixel arrangement and the color accuracy with pentile displays you have an extra green pixel everywhere so sorry if that and in highly saturated images you get the the graininess you don't get a solid color you get grain and I don't know if that will carry over to 1080p but I don't know about you guys but my Twitter feed has gone crazy apparently these people don't like the design of the galaxy s4 I would like to ask Joe what do you think about this because you haven't spoken that much today and I want to hear your opinion as the android guy well I I don't dislike the design of the samsung galaxy s3 and we just have exactly the same design in today's phone the four looks like the three you're gonna be hard pressed to tell them apart just looking at them I looked away for just a second is he showing off the s3 on stage or the s4 you know it's hard to tell man it's kinda it's got an it's got an IR LED it's got bluetooth 4.0 which is duh it's got 4g LTE cat3 with apparently different bands a you're you're getting an iphone 4s uh meaning it's a better iphone 4 but it's an iphone 4s is a you're getting a you know I consider that it's really not necessarily a bad thing for them not to bury the design um again I do like the design I just don't like the materials chosen for the phone I wish that they used a little bit more aluminum or a little bit I don't know I've had bad experience a little English hydranoid a little less hyper glaze I my mind my galaxy nexus broke on one fall one fall and that's my same worried with the galaxy s3 you know that this phone has never fallen and I worry of the day it happens you know probably now with its this is gonna be a heck sub and 4G LTE phone wow that's you know that's probably like wow but how many people actually roam around the world that would be a heck Seban help solo just me that you just have one phone for every carrier out there it's it makes sense to put everything in there not for roaming before ubiquity of device you can take your device and it'll work on any virtually any carrier out there without switching over to something else something else in the specs with this it does have 802 11 AC so it's even to be on the 802 11 n so soup our super fast Wi-Fi if your home router supports it I found the picture of interesting that the pixel layout of the s4 oh wait a second wait a second these are beat okay wait a second let me just interrupt you for a second this is not just any two gigabytes of RAM this is LG ddr3 is there NE sone out there okay so for example on your Mac you've got ddr3 1666 um but there is ddr2 to ddr1 and I believe that every smartphone out there the farthest it's gone and technology is DVR to know as a video I think you're wrong on this I think I i think i've heard I've seen some LG devices which have sported the dr 3 for quite some time well mmm that's that I don't know about you Joe you're the most technical guy here he do you know about that because I do know that obviously ddr3 is gonna make your phone a lot faster yes and no I think we're hitting a technological plateau where how fast you're you can talk to your onboard memory is probably not the bottleneck right now true but I do like to step up to ddr3 dator please show us the the bent I'll thing oh yeah sorry sorry about that I'm off on another tangent now you guys just missed out sorry and apparently we are getting what was the battery on this galaxy s3 was waiting six hours 2600 is on the s4 now okay so only 600 up so that Chinese site called this pin tile and it's actually the same arrangement you see on the galaxy uh no I'm looking at this backwards so it is it is pentile it's not the same arrangement you see on the the note to which the note 2 is not as not Penta right well i was looking at it backwards it's mirrored so i was looking at it no like wait so it's mirrored for me um yeah so it's not it is pinto actually so it's the same pixel density or pixel AOSS three I don't know why okay so for example in my case for those people that don't consider a pentile to be an issue um I have an s3 and an 02 and those the both both devices have the same 720p resolution you should actually consider that the s3 would have better the better it should handle images better because there is a lot more pixel density on this phone because the screen is smaller but in my experience if you look at a button anything that's drawn on a device looks much better on the note to it looks smoother on the note 2 that's non pentile then on the s3 that's been my experience so I agree with you the I met up until the point where I'd say that at five inches full HD with a 400 plus BB I you won't really see that that's the hope Adam is trying to show us times croaking you can use the camera is love Duncan ok cool Adam we can't hear you can you hear us now it looks like pandemonium there that's not an awful lot of people and that is a lot of unhappy people alright so we're um gon go ahead got if you look here this is the experience II galaxy s3 and galaxy s4 compared at a I don't know what zoom level um it doesn't look exactly framed the same for all of them but as you can see here the Xperia Z whites are white doesn't matter how close you go they're still looking white I mean if you go much closer you'll see individual pixels but at the same zoom level you get a really grainy picture from the s4 and even more so from the s3 and that's you don't get white white you get individual pixels those are pretty large so it looks real nice one pixels like to weigh in on something a LG this morning sent out a press release that the optimus g pro which we've seen at mwc will soon receive a value back and that value pack will contain some enhancements like I tracking and like dual camera capture and both of those features which LG announced are now being confirmed for samsung galaxy s4 which is interesting now this dual camera feature thing is pretty simple you take your phone out you snap a picture and it instantaneously snaps a picture with the back camera and also with the front camera and it stitches them together so that you can have your moments ready and share them interesting we're looking at Adams at time square footage which is is on and off there is pandemonium there and then we have a couple of comments in our pocket now a post one person we've got do haha 82 is every android fan should buy an HTC One Sampson is pulling an old HTC yeah you're right and by right but this is Jaime giving us opinion and by no means pocket now's official opinion no no no that this is actually a comment on the post and you know you are absolutely right this is HTC 2010 where we had like a million copies of the sensation uh in different different flavors and different colors you got it in red and purple in whatever color you want it but it was still the same sensation you've got it don't introduce them with a tap dancer in orchestra so exactly exactly you know Samsung is good showmanship but the phone is really what we're there for and sadly uh it says it's got a dual camera as the G Pro's dual camera that exact feature which I told you about right it uses a front-facing camera at the same time right right to stitch things together right but it's actually not necessarily like like the HTC one that uses to do all four megapix no no no this is a you take one with the the good camera and you want to be in the picture as well so it'll take a picture of you taking a picture of them and put you into the picture but it doesn't do it really cool it does it was a weird Photoshop overlays yeah i just gotta do I'm gonna censor this a little bit but who wants a picture of the photographer so so about another guy j-rok k is saying low using dual screens to be able to watch you guys and watch the presentation at the same time thank you very much for staying with us um let them do a scene looking over here i'm watching a stream on another monitor yeah we have someone we have some more features like drama shot and like the eraser feature for raising photo bumpers but i would like to ask a serious question from joe because i know that at the point when back in january samsung announced the Exynos 5 octa-core processor he wrote a lot of the lot of tutorials on how it compares to other cpus now we're specifically talking about the s4 vs the one will the Exynos 5 octa be that much better than the snapdragon 600 or will it be negligible overall performance i think is going to be negligible when you go to the octave with the the big little technology you're you're not using eight cores you're using two sets of quad cores and you're just going to get very good performance with very very good battery life so you're not going to see performance increases but you are going to see theoretically a better better experience and better overall life that you'll be able to use your device that battery will last longer so your money is right now on a five to six hundred on the 600 I believe all of that when I see it they've been promising or saying this this prefer this processor this chipset is more battery efficient than this one or you know they've been saying that forever and the the improvements are negligible they say it's thirty percent more battery efficient but you don't send us their time setting to turn thirty percent more yeah yeah you don't see a thirty percent return on that you see something that is invisible I don't see that you know yeah probably the only reason why I'm excited about this phone and is that the hexa ban LTE because for example for me I avoid buying unlocked phones you know the carrier unlock UK version phones because they lack LTE so when I travel to the United States I'm stuck on on hspa+ and so what I do is I get AT&T bones I legally unlock them this guy and I bring over here I get stuck on edge okay I don't even want to hear it and i will just interrupt you we have a working live feed from Times Square right now the camera is locked on that so as we speak you'll see what happens in Times Square in New York yeah nice Omar just a lot of people yeah it's it but it's still pandemonium there that's amazing yeah that's amazing III you do you wonder if these people are paid for or is it really it depends on how many people there are there are a lot of people there and Samsung has a lot of money all right question by the way we had nothing against Samsung we asked ourselves the same question for the Microsoft Surface announcement I just got a question on Twitter Xperia Z HTC One or galaxy s4 honestly it wouldn't be a toss-up between any of those one I'm to get emotional over there I thought you were saying like wait no note for one um I would it would actually be a toss-up between the ZL and the one um I really like to see but the build was just it wasn't organ ama Chi had trouble using the device and the camera was what really sold me on it and the CL has the same camera the display kind of kinda sucks a little bit a little bit and the rest was really good i like the rest so what about you what about you Joe I haven't helped any of the devices enhance though having said that based on the specs that I've seen based on all the pictures that I've seen I'm putting my money behind the one yeah um that's my final answer is I would go one but the CL is really kind of the only thing pulling me in another direction I'm journalist royal actually impressed i am going to spoil everybody right now because i am my next phone is gonna be the gs4 oh why is it going okay why is it gonna be the gs4 okay so the one is a beautiful phone okay so for example why do I always use an iphone okay I'm gonna answer the question now because you're okay no I am NOT a fat boy Adam we can see you I had to see it okay okay so the reason why is because this is a non compromised camera um i buy a 64 gigabyte iphone and I get a non compromise camera and we can see Adam there but sadly it's it's kind of choppy hopefully it's it's a lot better in the final stream that all our viewers are watching but what I like about the galaxy s3 is or the galaxy s4 now is that it's the only other phone that can deliver that image quality and can give me the replaceable battery and the expandable storage that I want our does reason are those not safe for work ladies there Adam cake Aniki you talk about total question about the ladies right now wow it must be freezing in Times Square right now so I wouldn't want to be in their shoes I can't tell if they're wearing khaki pants or no pants that's the beauty of the Internet okay it depends on who you ask if you ask Tony he'll give you an answer and then if you asked Joe he'll give you another answer um kind of know I just want to know if it's pentile or not fine right on Twitter just ask does it feature s wealth to who wouldn't like that okay so Tony you you are the only one that's holding a one right now so talk about you I mean you are gonna keep that one or you're gonna try the s4 no I got okay so as a pocket now editor I will try the s4 and i will try almost every phone out there but if i wasn't working for a pocket now i would go personally with the one okay okay we'll see ya there are a lot of software enhancements that are coming to this to the galaxy yesterday you see that's that's the problem i don't care about those i don't care about the smart stay I don't care about I tracking I don't care about air view I don't care about anything I care about that looks good camera fast performance great user experience full stuff you know and I can't imagine myself holding the phone and hovering my finger over it and and and doing that I mean why not just touch the damn thing and you're there why not just just think about it I mean if the phone I would love for the phone to be in the kitchen and for me to be from here like okay like you know that would make sense that's as fundamental mention when it makes you feel like you have powers or something use the Force to open this app they should know what you want to do before you know what you want to do right I just don't even have to point a finger why should I have to lift a finger so this is the Darth Vader phone right so Tony since you're in Europe and talked with a lot of people with different different languages probably more than any of us what do you think of the S translate feature they've got on there well I don't know it's it's it it for me who I'm used to writing texts and emails in at least three languages every day it would be something which I would not use because I speak these languages very well and I can i can write texts but for somebody who isn't that good with with the keyboard with typing maybe they will find that useful as i'm sure people love smart stay now december you any of those any of the samsung features I've never used a single one of them can you can usually in sooner unless you don't have to do the s-pen one go oh yeah that's a teacher I have never eaten I have never to this day used Papa browser by the way okay sorry I take that back i have used a browser okay let's do one that's the one but other than that like papa video was completely entirely useless now there are there are a couple of there are a couple of things that are happening in the presentation that i don't consider gimmicks um you remember that samsung box that was released recently apparently you're gonna be able to use that box as a homesync media hub for your devices but obviously it's something that's sold separately okay so i understand how does this differ from i guess its airplane ear well if this isn't the fact that not ever it differs in the fact that not everybody wants an iphone so if you're in the same world it makes sense for you know I love the fact that if i buy a box i get the features and i'm not forced to buying a samsung smart TV for that the i'm going to cost you 100 bucks and you're gonna get the features as opposed to buying the Smart TV for three thousand dollars ya know I actually said the wrong thing allshare play is what i meant to say not airplay but all share play okay your top you're talking to me about a feature that i have on my phone and that I've never used so tell me about ok rock this we have got all share play I was sitting in kind of kind of turn the stream volume down but orchestra is crazy so I was sitting in my living room watching probably walking dead on on netflix and i was looking at a video of my phone on the note 2 and there was a little thing that popped up on my screen and I'm like what does that even do and I hit it and it closed out of the netflix app on my 360 and started playing the video on my TV through my 360 nice so it just worked I didn't have to do anything and it was because it is a network that is basically basic dlm a Apple yeah yeah but well yeah and we've got that nails packaged up on Android to come out with jelly bean or was it ice cream sandwich jelly bean I think it was jelly bean yeah yeah so yeah so how did less rebranding in this box well I apparently you'll for example one thing that I like and this is something that we do a lot here at the household it's like when my older son is here for vacations we want to play Monopoly uh you know we play through the same Wi-Fi connection and not necessarily you know have to use any sort of network bandwidth or anything it just happens through Wi-Fi so I you know I guess this box will enable you to do this that's that's pretty much it you know just or either sharing things with everybody like comb sharing like if you have a Mac you can activate home sharing on itunes and everybody can hear your music library you don't necessarily have to have it on a specific twice just one now I have a question for for Joe because I know he recently posted something about this when we were reversal oh no what Michael we both Rock the no.2 and we have the we have been bumping phones which means that we took pictures and we use the S beam feature with the with the NFC in order to transmit the picture from one phone to the other but by touching their back-to-back now right do you think that the galaxy s4 will be I know it should be but will be backwards compatible with the galaxy s3 and no two that's one question and will they fix the issue of incompatibilities with other phones on the market right now ok so backwards compatibility absolutely you're going to be able to use any of the Samsung Galaxy NFC enabled devices to two s beam back and forth one another if they don't s beam is dead so they have to do that they're going to do that and it works fabulously works great as long as you're going from a modern Samsung device to another modern Samsung device to your second question about compatibility if you turn off s beam but leave on Android Beam compatibility is across all those devices it works great on any ICS device with NFC on up samsung or not the downside to to Android Beam / S beam is it's a little bit not as advanced it doesn't have all the features it doesn't do the the high-speed data transfers and whatnot that s beam does so in basic makes that compatibility it transfers through bluetooth and not through Wi-Fi that right what I direct credit do they change that I thought they changed that in the latest jelly bean update nature I haven't tried it yet to see if they have or not but I haven't been able to get it work over the direct I think it's listed on the developer page that that uh that could be totally I could be totally wrong but I thought they updated it okay only I may be making some updates to it but it's still separate it's still different from from SB my don't think there's a compatibility between Android Beam and s beam using Wi-Fi direct to try so I would be basic Tony Tony I am sad to report that there are white pants sadly you got this as a breaking news listen there's this there's this question from a commenter it says it's really intriguing that to hear that Tony your first phone with 4 megapixels can we hear why especially when he's been waiting for the next curve you phone so they want to know why are you gonna put up with performing up I I put up with the 4 megapixels because I always have my 41-megapixel handy no no no no so here's here's the deal the the HTC one looks so good and feels so good in the hand and it is so fluid and everything except for the camera and then on the other hand it's the samsung galaxy s4 which which does everything well except for the looks so it's just my personal preference that I prefer this phone over the other one because I have other phones with which to get your pictures if this would be my one and only camera phone then I think twice about it so but you you wouldn't be considering getting just one solution meaning what would it would for example the the average user only has one fall so let's forget about the fact that you're going to be using the 808 PureView if you would have to choose just one phone and obviously let's not talk about the iphone 5 because we know that's your next one but you know between the one and the galaxy s3 which would it be under those premises if i was a typical user and i would have to choose one phone with which to stick for two years on a contract i would probably go with the samsung galaxy s4 see there that's that's really my point i mean that's it's really the only phone out there and this is the stupidest thing i mean you bring out the one and then you bring out you bring out the 1x last year and then you bring out the one in there like oh we had to invest so much in this beautiful design to make this phone thin and light and then you get the galaxy s3 and galaxy s4 and they're thinner lighter and they have expandable storage so there's really no excuse as to why you cannot offer these services on the HTC One so I'm sure that HTC made a big bet with that camera but i would have preferred i mean i would pay HTC for them to give me a phone ala carte you remember that editorial yeah I would give me the one give me the one as it is with sense and everything but with the 13.1 megapixel camera David I say sum that up fire away this is this is something that hit me as I was sitting down for this hangout otherwise I probably would have written an editorial about it earlier today but I looked over and I thought that's all this thing Oh pizzas Tim and this is exactly why like or not why but what would it make you want good flavor settings on your couch well you can use my music hold on let me move only maybe without ya hahaha so we finally get immunity Oh Tony can you try he's made it now oh cool warming up man go ahead yes if they had made the s4 out of the same soft touch material it would be an entirely entirely different story that that was that's all it would take this right here this is one of the most well designed mobile devices so Samsung has ever made the Nexus tent I absolutely love the bill but call it quality of this device they made the s4 obvious it would be a no-brainer you know guys what's what's not funny not strange it's I think said that we are here right now in 2013 and we are being torn between two phones which should offer basically about the same specifications and in 2013 he would expect that every phone should have a good camera it's not 2007 or 2008 anymore and here comes HTC with the HTC One and that it was the HTC One X and the one x+ last year and everything is good about them except for the camera so I don't know what HTC is doing but do do you guys know who is making the image sensor and the chip inside HTC phones yeah a wacky dude because he was the one that actually he was the one that came out with the first 16 megapixel sensor on a phone on the Titan two and then why not bring that 16 megapixel sensor which was not really that good but you know bring that enhanced into the HTC one can you imagine that HTC one with a 16 megapixel sensor of yes I can imagine that but when I heard about the four megapix of the four ultrapixel camera I said okay I can live with four megapixel images it's not a problem but that image at 4 megapixels has to be absolutely the image okay it's not but but here's the problem here's the problem you are not using a Retina Display MacBook Pro um 700 you 700 pixels wide is like this big on your screen yeah I learned this this week I just upgraded and everything is so small okay so all computers right now and even the Chromebook pixel but that expensive gimmicky thing out there this has a rep at this way okay so the problem with retina displays and let me just explain the technology is one second i'ma quickly liquidly I just got an email from from ATT they will carry the yes for I don't know if that was already hotter or not but do we know any availability and pricing official statement was we're gonna carry it basically ok let's see make sure they're plump they're playin college ok att.com / galaxy s4 so now so they're the s the number for the number for they're playing they're playing golf at the event right now so let's continue talking about fixes um first of all I have a question because I don't know what a Retina display means on a macbook or on a computer can you translate that to resolution so that people like I'm knowledge I'll explain I'll explain it right now ok so what the computer does is that it'll give you for example you get 2048 x 1536 which is the iPads resolution but what they'll do it is that they'll divide that by four and quadruple those pixels and make you like a a thinner pixel or a larger pixel I think it would be um into that same area so what you're doing is this is the the image but what you're doing is quadrupling it to look like this okay so what happens when you have a 1920 x 1080 photo or image on a Retina display even if your resolution is set to quadruple itself what it's actually doing is it's shrinking itself so when you open that image it looks small on your on your retina this way and it's really confusing if you're abused oh my gosh we lost you for a second there Timon we lost you for a second can you just repeat your last sentence okay so it's extremely confusing that's the problem meaning resolution what it's doing its quadrupling pixels and it doesn't make a difference on a tablet or on a phone but it does on a computer so basically yes so the problem on a computer it's really non controllable for example if I try to take a screenshot that's 1280 by 720 on my display it'll tell me that it's 1280 by 720 and it actually takes up that area but then when I try to export that photo it tells me that the photo is 2550 bye-bye I don't know what number it's a crazy number because that's really the amount of pixels that are within that photo so here's a question for everybody I'm sorry go on tater oh you you're asking for the resolution of the retina display and that's 2805 or 2880 by 1800 that's basically approximately the same as my 27-inch imac so I haven't looked for you guys yeah but the difference is you're twenty-eight year 27-inch imac is not quadrupling the pixels yeah you know it is really giving you real pixels so you will see the photo in real in real resolution not the way we get it on a Retina display so everybody kind of agrees that the best cameras out there on the market are on the iPhone on the Samsung Galaxy and on the Sony phones that's because all these free phones are using use sony imaging chips the other end then there's nakia not as using their own imaging chips with sometimes carl zeiss optics why wouldn't according to your opinion guys HTC try to license or purchase one of those imaging chips at the IC tailor its please express your feelings in words their financials are not that great right now and they're on the track to recovery and that means that they're going to have to cut some corners and that's one reason I imagine they don't use micro SD card slots anymore that that's just I guess is that they put everything into the display and the design but they believe you know how much would it cost for a microSD expansion slot to be included on a phone one two three five dollars just think about it how much do they deported oh it's a baseball sense but the problem which do they pay apple for further phones just think about that for this is the problem is that they're they're paying you no licenses to use android now basically because all these lawsuits I got a comment on Twitter it said I'm watching a Broadway show for a phone a bit too much I forgot the specs already and this is kind of ridiculous it's I mean the production is awesome but this is a play it's a it's a show yeah it is i'm wondering if michael fisher is is there at the event on stage so can I leave in his hand and saying to be or not to be yeah Tony Tony there is a question for you on the post its asking if Anton is talking about look that looks are not important then I would ask him if he would notice a difference between the girl next door and Scarlett Johansson just take a pic I'm not gonna dignify that with an answer I don't know I I feel again I I just feel that the galaxy s4 is the only phone out there that's not compromising your money you're paying the same amount of money that you're paying for an HTC One and you're not gonna have good low-light performance uh well it's really hard to get good low-light performance anyways you have to be like with a freakin tripod trying to photo for it not to look Jackie anyways so it doesn't really matter if you've got great low-light performance unless you you you just can you just completely written eight you resign from breathing to try to turn that is also a problem with the HTC one I mean the HTC One has exceptional low-light performance those pixels those huge ultrapixels are capturing a lot of light but the output is a lot of well-lit pixels which are basically noise and that's the problem yeah yeah yeah it's over exposing everything and it's cool i mean it's cool that they figured it out but i feel that the technology is still not there i feel honestly that the only company that's really figured it out now is nokia yes yes I said it I feel that the only kind of that's figured it out right now is nokia oh you're ready they have it until they get it in a slimmer phone tony is gonna hit me over this but I don't want the 808 PureView because it's three inches thick you know I don't want that I I agree with you totally but the the 8-week review was a proof of concept phone it was this is the order you want two megapixel let me switch the camera over to me this is this is a 41-megapixel sensor now imagine how thinner this would be if this would be a 16 megapixel sensor yeah but I wasn't gonna bow down to me from 16 let me let me interrupt you for a second the event is over as of this moment the hands on tables are full of I don't know they don't look time when these girls oh I don't know where they're from but the event is full of people that are going to show off the galaxy s4 now we have Michael Fisher we have Brandon minimun at the event right now we will definitely have a lot of hands-on coverage so stay tuned but please continue the fictional tacos really i really want to hear about hear this from Tony I got the question Taylor so how it will how it will great that super pixel x over sampling well it's easy right now the 41-megapixel sensor is over sampling as in down sampling for 41 megapixels 2825 or two three that means a ratio of you guys do the math I'm just saying numbers 8242 I don't know how much if this would be a 16 megapixel sensor then this would probably be able to have sharp images delivered in a 4 megapixel outfit so then the output would be a 4 megapixel image using super pixels and they form a capital image using ultrapixels which one do you guess will be better super poor so that's it all gets back to the object HTC One but doesn't do any it depends vs. actually you know it depends on the size of the sensor though and and how big those actual pixels are how big that the individual pixels to relate to on the sensor itself so are they two micron pixels or you know because because that's what HTC is banking on is having a sensor the same size as an eight megapixel sensor but the output is only 4 megapixels so yeah it would really depend on that end of the day as to how much light you're gonna bring in and and things like that but I totally agree yeah and here here's the point for everybody that must be just hating us right now for those of you that say that megapixels don't matter um in the times when your monitor was 800 x 600 you were right um but the new tendency is to go retina all monitors are going for higher resolution on tablets and on phones and on computers it's the pixel race right now and if you're gonna buy a phone that you're gonna be caring for the next two years two years think about that with a 4 megapixel sensor that's probably gonna be obsolete by the next year the utmost then it's not already obsolete if it's not already obsolete so why couldn't they bring you know in my opinion was like okay HTC tell you what the ultrapixel concept is great let's just just bring that back when you are able to do that with 8 megapixels at least 8 megapixels yeah that's kind of the standard in smartphones today is eight if you don't have an 8 megapixel camera you're a budget device you're a budget phone you are not a ship the product assistant I redid that with 8 megapixels the sensor itself would have to be double the size so you would have you would effectively have a sensor a 16 megapixel sensor only outputting at eight megapixels that's exactly what you would have met that would be perfectly acceptable if that output it would be a downsampled image of that 16 meta so for every 2 pixels it will create one pixel for sharper images for better contrast but it's not the way it works on the HTC One right right hey and then again you know going back to the galaxy s3 I've galaxy s4 sorry I am to say before you have to worry you some interchangeably okay you know HTC does a lot of bold moves but for example you know that 8 megapixel camera you know it's currently an industry standard but it was started by HTC of the 1st Lt phone the first wimax phone the first phone that's fully aluminum that Tony's holding the first phone with dual speakers which is smart I mean HTC has done a lot of bold bets were they the first 3d or was that don't you know do it LG is first on a lot of things as well because they were the first with a dual core smartphone yeah they were the first with the first comparing the first on HTC and LG at least in my in my looking at things HTC has been first more things that have stuck and that more people emulate than LG has judy was awful three day was awful well as LG was the first with 3d also i'm referring to the galaxy s4 moving forward i'm going to call it the galaxy 3s so the galaxy s 3 s 3 s and this is a good thing that you brought this up because i want to take this opportunity to ask each and every one of you too I don't know maybe tell me your opinions tell me and everybody who's watching your opinions about what we've seen officially at what we've heard today does it impress you a conclusion if you will let's start with Jaime uh so far I would say that the galaxy s4 is gonna be my next daily driver it's because of the fact that I'm gonna most likely have to pay for it and I would rather get non compromise for my money you know it's not I I don't see the galaxy s4 design is awful it's just not as sexy as the HTC One but at the end of the day you know a phone after the two or three months of use doesn't look sexy anymore anyways um so for me I would rather have a phone in which I don't want to be at the beach and be like oh man I wish I would have brought this phone because I'm carrying this other one that has a terrible camera or I'm carrying this other one that doesn't have this or I don't have expandable storage or this and this and that this is just me I prefer a phone for no compromise for my money I am in the perspective of the person that's gonna pay for this phone for two years after two for two years for contracts so for those owners of the galaxy s3 there is no reason for you to upgrade there is no reason for you to upgrade the galaxy s4 looks identical to the s3 it's got a but it's got better everything but it's not like if you're down on the road right now at the s3 most likely the galaxy s mini will die the s3 mini and the s3 will probably remain as the cheekbone force for a while and then the s4 will be the high end so there's really no need to upgrade so and they'll get us don't get us wrong I'm sorry for interrupting we said exactly the same thing about the iphone 4 and the iphone 4s yeah yeah yeah you know they were there 145 yeah there was no reason so in my my conclusions and bottom line is if it's my money if it's gonna go for two-year contract I would rather go for the s4 that's me by the way not necessarily i prefer the HTC One in design but that's really pointless if the phone is not gonna give me everything that I want just for a pretty design that's me oh hi Joe how about you Joe so if you're using an sgs2 right now and your contract is getting close to when you can upgrade skip over the three go to the four that's that's an absolute no brainer move you'll love it it'll be great or go to the HTC either one but if you're on an sgs3 I didn't see anything in this presentation that would make me want to move from the three up to the for the four is iterative it's got some new improvements in the software some additions that probably going to take a little while to to vet out and to shake the bugs out and there's going to be some updates to them no doubt so if you're on the three right now wait for the SGS five and let's not forget that probably all the software features from the s4 will at one point either officially or from from the front the community come to the s3 you got probably come to the community before the S 4 hits the market but car maybe they're probably already there but yeah if you've got if you've got a device to sell like Samsung does you're not going to release those new features out to the sgs3 until after you have done the best push that you can to sell all your new device it's gonna be on the sgs4 for good several months before we're gonna hear anything official on the sgs3 or that because updates take forever yeah and I think I'll just because updates stay forever I didn't believe it but you're gonna drag their feet on purpose anyway yes I think the only exception by the bins hard interrupt would be that covering finger thing because that would require a different type of display that's the reason why the s pen does not work on the s3 by the way for those of you that didn't know and I wonder if the s pen works on this s4 with this new technology that's really probably one of the things that's cooking me the most right now I want to know that this the S Pen is inductive so if you don't have basically induction beneath the screen or I guess it might be actually a layer above the screen I don't know exactly but if you don't have that inductive layer you can't use the S Pen no later how about your conclusion your thoughts on the sgs3 on the sgs3 s s yeah that's sorry sgs3 s sg3 i don't know too many guesses and threes but um only 13 but um I'm kind of indifferent I didn't really like the s3 to begin with um it didn't impress me like I said before I feel it it kind of resembles a feature phone or one of Samsung's low end models it doesn't look it doesn't have the appeal of just a truly high-end device like the One X this is one of my favorite design phones ever i love this i picked it up today and thought man if this just had you know a better camera a better battery life i would probably use it still yeah now I'm kind of conflicted and a lot of people probably call me a hypocrite because I loved the note 2 I absolutely loved the note 2 I don't like the s3 and the differences between them is really just sign here same here I don't know what it is um that the harder corners I don't know if it makes you feel better I hate it and I completely hate the nexus 10 right now but I loved the note 8 point so we're in the same boat yeah I don't know what it is and it may be a society I don't know and maybe a 5-inch s3 or s4 whatever they're the same thing a 5 inch Galaxy S will change my mind I won't know I'm gonna try it I'll reserve my final opinion until later but no I'm not impressed and I agree with what every one of you have said if you have an s3 there's no reason to upgrade it's the same thing yeah what about you Tony tell us about yeah well I am I am deeply disappointed because I see the same design but kidding aside and design aside the samsung is continuing to innovate and they've been doing that for quite some time and that's that's the thing which which got them to the top of the Android food chain they are right now dominating the android market share and the s4 is a great device if it's going to be an upgrade from the s2 or if it's going to be your first device if you're coming from the s3 and you have to have an update then go with the s4 but don't pay for the s4 if you still can't live with the s3 because of course the specs are better but how much better incrementally better is not enough because with jelly bean all the systems are running smoothly so it shouldn't be a problem as far as I'm personally concerned I will go this year with the HTC One okay I i I'm really am eyeing the HTC one developer edition same here but I don't know I feel honestly you want me to break the chain here I'm waiting for the note 3 well those free will look exactly like the s4 and like the note 2 i'm waiting for the no Henry I am NOT lose hope that the note 3 will have the same exact design as the nexus tin I can tell you the specs of the note 3 right now if you wish it will have the same design as the s4 as and like the amount to it will have a full HD screen it will have an Exynos 5 octa-core processor clucking at a little bit higher speeds than the s4 it will have 2 gigs of ram s-pen and all the functionalities on the s4 and that's up here it is you heard it here first yeah I think that that's gonna be the case so far well bottom line and I guess that's it's time to wrap it up we've been live for an hour so far we really appreciate for everybody to join us I this was a you know obviously sans the showmanship and all the tap dancing and everything the tap dancing we got everything that we were expecting we pretty much got the phone that we thought that we were gonna see it's probably not the best thing out there but i'm sure that samsung is gonna make it the best thing out there with your marketing that's just the way they handled they're gonna push the marketing hard yes and we have no notes go ahead go ahead we had no doubts that it will outsell the S free and it will be probably the best selling phone the wrestling android phone of all times but yeah it's a long bitter also good if that chinese site was correct it doesn't have wireless charging neither and if it does have wireless turning it's not compatible with chi it was one of those charging it will have wireless charging via a additional cover at which you will buy probably if you want from most probably i will not buy it I just for me if I keep at it for me if the charging pad is bigger than the wire then for me it's pointless but that's I'm when I'm with you I know you guys love that thing but but anyways to wrap it up thank you very much for joining us at this live stream of the galaxy s4 announcement so far some of us love it some of us are disappointed we really want to hear what you think please there's a comment section downstairs please let us know what you think about the galaxy s4 is it gonna be your next daily driver is it really something you want I mean just think about it you most probably have a great phone already and probably the galaxy s4 is not necessarily your best bet it's very different to the times of the galaxy s3 since the s2 was cool but it didn't have a 720p display and sadly you know when it comes to smartphone 720p and 1080p is really not that big a difference on the phone sadly it's cool but it's not that big a difference so there are not significant differences so far I think it's the general consensus we have a lot of content coming up we can't even stress enough how much content we have coming up with all the hands on that edited that Michael and Brandon are gonna film they've got a lot of phones with them they've got their smartphone goody bag so they're obviously gonna throw this phone to everything right now so please stay lock to our YouTube channel and our front page because we are not going to sleep everybody's got coffee here it's like nine it's to 13 am here so you can understand me yeah we are not going to sleep we have a lot are actually our day starts right now so please stay tuned to the channel and please we expect to see you there please share your comments tell us what you think thank you so much Adam you are over there trying to do your best with with the network it's it's been great up you know the event looks really cool accents the tap dancing but so far thank you very much guys for for joining us again and let's see what the galaxy s5 brings because the rumors start right now for the galaxy s5 anyways thank you very much for watching and we will see you next time hopefully bye-bye