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Should the Stylus Be Standard Again?: Pocketnow Live, Ep. 11

2013-04-12
good morning good evening everybody I'm Eddie been I was just laughing at my intro stupid face because I either start talking too early and it's not yet caught in the recording or I start talking too late and I have my stupid face on but that this is pocket not live i believe episode 11 I am Anton denied your host tonight as usual or today if you're in another region and I am joined by mr. Hyman Rivera who is still trying to install Facebook come no comment on that but for those of you that didn't know Facebook comb is actually blocked only for the United States right now so we're trying to get this working on our VPN connection so just the heads up it's not really worth it forget about it don't make the NBA and the lucky man who is in the USA and doesn't have to fool around with VPNs mr. add about hello oh how are you and here is my facebook home yay tell me your your first quick and dirty reaction love it or hate it ah so far not a fan I want my widgets back when I go into my launcher here all I get all I get are the other apps i don't have it the flume widget I don't have the assistive light widget I just I need those that is by design yeah and a facebook Facebook's gonna have to take it nap if that's the case so let let's kick this thing off and I'm gonna hand it over to hyman and he's gonna start talking to you somebody down in the list okay let me see who we have here somebody who I haven't met yet Mick Carol how are you yeah you have to i need your microphone ok can you hear me out yes I can hear you now mr. Nick Carol how are you were you from very good i'm from houston texas Oh Houston Texas I oh I go there all the time no they're at least I go there at least three times a year only uh my family lives in the side of Katie so that's pretty much not Houston anymore westlaw i believe ya westside how about you which part let's send again which part of houston north side oh nice nice that's good that's good so tell us a little about you what do you do for a living I'm a network technician oh nice nice I just wanted to mention that i have a nexus 7 here and I first started watching pocket now because of brandon's nexus 7 review and I've been watching you guys ever since yeah that's nice man big fans of the nexus 7 here let me try to pull mine out of a drawer exactly mine is it was come on let's do a nexus 7 thing right yeah my god I mean mine is the white one yeah you got the limited edition white one yeah so so tell us about your year nexus 7 what do you like about the tablet the most I mean me it's like yeah the sizes is perfect you know I actually went ipad mini because you know I i I've been an apple customer for about three or four years and it just made sense for me to go to the ipad mini and I'll tell you this much I am still not as satisfied by the ipad mini as i am with the nexus 7 i'm not a big fan of the display but i do love the fact that you know it's so cheap it's it is a powerful tablet um and i don't know i just i considered convenient that's what I feel it is I think it pretty good a tavern as well and I like the camera on it I was actually playing with it a few months ago and I was surprised at how how good the hardware so uh I think iPad Mini is pretty cool yeah yeah no no tell me something we have we have like a question here for today on our hangout and the question is should the stylus be a standard again so you are rocking a tablet right now do you think that using a stylus would make your experience with the nexus 7 any better as long as it's not capacitive I would love to have a tablet like a 7 or 8 inch tablet with a stylus and I do think the was a the note 8 that just came out I think I was pretty nice yeah we just reviewed it it's a I actually I actually worked on on editing the video review and it's it is a good tablet the thing about that and and this is my same gripe with the note 2 which i'm actually using right now um everything is nice up until the time when you need to eat rest your palm on the display and you know sometimes it does a really good job it not detecting your palm and only detecting the stylus which is good but it's hit or miss so I still feel that you know it's hit or miss it'll be there someday but I don't know it's it's it's it's good but it's still a novelty for something that wouldn't well I'm sorry I do know that supposedly if you approach it with the stylist first that that'll basically prevent your you know the plan from being noticed but it a lot of times it's these are people to hit it with the palm earth and in it so that that could be an issue yeah yeah what phone to use an atrix 2 8520 that's a good phone I have the HD but but the Atrix 2 it's really good that one would still work with that computer doc didn't it yes I got that I do not have that but I've watched a number of videos on this bike connected to my TV via hdmi and last number of video series with it so yeah those are the rent those were the really good Motorola phones man I i miss that yeah I'd love to get a nexus 4 or maybe the next generation but I'm also interested in seeing what Motorola has to offer when they release release whatever phone they have so yeah so well do you have any questions for the team before we wrap up maybe so when we look real quick I did write something down Oh a one actually a couple things one a resolution and one on aspect ratio I do know that you know everything is moving towards 1080p as far as certainly smartphones I was wondering if you guys if you haven't already maybe consider writing like a sort of a master piece on like the 1080p phones like there's a lot of them even some like the Aqua find 5 is it like mkbhd you know is your big fan of them even like the asus padfone that I know Tony likes the phone itself is a 5-inch phone i believe it's 1080p firstly i think it looks awesome so maybe if you guys could either write a piece i'm sitting a lot of those and maybe even a video discussion about it because i just think i can i can definitely do a top five on the best 1080p phones in the market you know we're just waiting we're just waiting for the galaxy s4 de to reach the market i mean that that's a new 1080p and it's gonna be like ubiquitous in the next couple of months so it's kind of hard to build it now but you know if i had to give you a list right now I know tony is a you're a fan of the PadFone Tony so I always as I said I think in my mind WC coverage every year I go to mwc I see a new bat phone I want the new bat phone I never get the new bad film because of the huge price point yeah yeah but you know in my case the first thing and I'm just gonna pull it out of it this is just to give it right you got a pesto and I'm gonna commit suicide no I am going to pull the Xperia ZL from the from the drawer oh this is a very beautiful phone with a terrible display it is it is a great display as long as you look at it from the front but the promise when you put it on the table and everybody's like man you guys are always so much about viewing angles and I'm like yeah when when I'm eating on a table and I get an email what I do is I turn on the phone and I want to see at least something from the from the table so that I don't have to pick up the phone and as it turns out this display this is a beautiful phone I just hate the display so this factor is really nice on that it man listen I have my hands are big and look at this look at this I'm touching all four corners of the phone with the one hand it is really good 5-inch 1080p display but you know again I will work on that that's that's definitely something that's coming but so far the best 1080p display is the sadly that the HTC One mr. Tony can tell you more about that and I was I was just about to jump in real quick here and of course you guys know what this is this is the HTC One and you guys know that this is the blinkfeed so all of you guys who are now participating in this and who are watching this life or the recording you're hearing it here first pocket now is officially on HTC blinkfeed it's it's the top story right there and if you click on it here it is so we are right now on blinkfeed so cheers for a team who made that happen and yeah more one more channel for us to keep you guys entertained and back to you after de stainless no no Nick it's been a pleasure we're trying to keep this 25 minutes we've extended a little but it's been a pleasure meeting you thank you for joining us and with more since we're since we're waiting for more people to join the broadcast we'd love to what we'd appreciate a view good you know leaves em so that other people and you can follow us in the live feed we're still be there definitely have a great day thank you guys pleasure to meet you thank you what mr. Adam doubt please be my guest okay all right I'm thinking how about Nathaniel Smith a frequent common term hello hello Nathaniel how you just how you doing today I'm good thanks how are you oh awesome is always good so uh so what's your stance on style is as I actually wrote a piece wasn't this week or last week and I say bring back the styles as I'm all about Silas but what's your what's your take I honestly use a stylus that much I I just tend to normally lose them perf that's just me me am I made my achievement lautner nintendo DS and they've come star that's all you always used to lose them again not the first week again and so I I just don't find any use of them really I I particularly enjoyed the Michael Fisher video when he was talking about the stylus for the worst of video that he just didn't he was actually Scott taping the stylist at the back of the phone yeah that was awesome hilarious I was hilarious also yeah yeah what what LG does I haven't seen an LG phone regardless if it's a phablet or a jumbo Atlas LG thinks that you usually use your finger as your stylist and it's been the same with the view with the view to a / intuition or what his name is and the it's the same with the optimus g pro yeah if you're going to ship that thing with a stylus you need to have a place to put it so you just can't rely on people keeping those things in their pockets or whatever because you know you're right you're gonna lose yes so get you loose and easy enough about you know any pocket yeah so some Facebook home comes out today I know it's us only but you know we have two extra us folks here who have managed to install Facebook home are you gonna give it a shot or could you care less this is this is ridiculous look at this I'm sorry to interrupt this is my facebook home right now and guess who's on it oh god oh god oh god I'm trying my sexiest face there a bad that's happening you is this this this is your sexy piece no wait who was the one that posted that who is the sexiest member on pocket now well it wasn't me it doesn't I'll give me a hand she was probably trying to solicit some votes for himself it oh well but I gotta say I what I was a little disappointed but not entirely surprised i did not even get a mention in that thread so i did a search and then you know making the votes you would have loved who have been there I know Oh fan so anyway uh so anything else that you want to want to talk about their or well yeah um alright i would give Facebook i'ma try but that main reason I wanted it was for the chat heads I think they're quite good you know because there's our messages you like way watching YouTube video sort of awkward you know opening that and I just got an update to messenger and as Jack heads included so you know yeah i've been using chat heads all morning you know i install the first thing when I got up this morning and it is pretty sweet so I I post a message on facebook saying quick someone messaged me and like I got like five of them all right and it was just like I'll tap on that one I'll tap on that one I'll drag it over it was be awesome and you know for the record what makes the chat heads cool is that I have never seen facebook so reliable in my life I mean it's immediate it doesn't stutter it refreshes immediately everything works as it should you know like a reliable messenger for the first time ever that's nice mmm-hmm so I was under the impression during the demo video that Chad had was going to be part of Facebook home but I mean if since it's not then I think Facebook home might be going away but chad has is definitely here to stay at least in my and my phone yeah so I would definitely like to see and I don't even know if they can do this I mean I would love to see something like chat heads come to iOS and Windows Phone as well and even blackberry yeah I know I know I don't even think it's possible because I mean I've never seen anything like chat heads except on an android phone so I mean I just not built that way or whatever but yeah so your singing voice is amazing tongue you know I know right so all right I think we're gonna just about wrap it up here did you want to share your Twitter handle and get some get some follow and get some follow love come from this sir um okay yeah saw me on Twitter I nut man 18 and I deal with Google+ yeah I'd never pass on mainly just you do blossom facebook really but I've been twitter as well say yeah awesome well thanks very much for stopping by and you know once again we're going to ask you to go ahead and drop out so we can let some more folks in and we're definitely still up on the live feed so far almost there thanks everyone bye take care all right well sure and I'm going to talk to this gentleman I think if I see right from the stum nail from India and I'm gonna screw up your name so I'm sorry mr. Karthik Oh dupa dupa hello you have to unmute your microphone from the top right now okay until until you figure it out your ear you hear hear it does know until you figure it out then let's talk to hang on hey before hey everything is awesome how are you today very good thank you I just get from school hey I skip one class to get to the Hangout hello hi Karthik we're gonna get either keep your microfilm like that on you can just just don't talk and a Jaime will talk to you after I finish up can you hear anything I'm saying right now yes we can't hear you but you don't see it yeah okay I'm gonna meet you know ok back to you Hannah hello skip the skipping school for the pocket now hang out oh man yeah we were flattered we're flattered yeah I could have made it I couldn't make it to the last two episodes so I wanted to get into this work so i skipped a class education it comes first so yeah but we were talking what are you talking about Tony we're talking about phones here this is no education I wanted to be the good guy for just once in my life and the yang sir come on Adam skipping a Cubs game right now I mean look at it right look at his face look at his face the guy is about to cry come on Anna do you want to talk about styluses or do you want to talk about anything else let's start first with stylus I think is is good that these titles came back from the dead actually because seeing st. note I think don't one right if this toilet was these turtles disappear however I think it's more this more is to expand the experiencing phone fabrics and tablets with big screens I don't see it I also stand stylist in small forms like for 4.5 inches or something like that is I don't think that more every child should have done style but he's good as a good idea to integrate integrate it I have a question for you every time Michael Fisher and I meet if regardless if it's timberglen or in Barcelona and we talked about phablets we end up arguing so Michael Fisher thinks that a phablet is a phablet because of the stylist and the added functionality and I think that a phablet is a phablet because of its size because of its form factor which is so close to the tablet what do you think yeah I asked my myself that that question also but however you can see phablets or big phone with no stylus i think is rather write more for the stylus is for the size of the screen i seasoned load two icons here like more than five inches is I consider that that phone as a father it's my sleep I don't talking about what are you talking about I think that's it you know five inches is like from me the top the top side for a phone I follow these five inches and more uncover how r 5 inches is pretty much alike to walk about one of all the samsung galaxy mega 6.3 ya hear I hear I hear that and I read the news and i would like only I don't know what to think about life actually almost more like a tablet I don't know I was in a little interesting about to me make I like what galaxy mega alone time to really know how to pick their their name or their branding and that stuff do ya i just wish they bitch the galaxy I mean so many galaxies and now we have a metal galaxy actually too yeah you know what man galaxy s makes a little bit sentence like notes it's okay for me but make it like what I I don't know how big they may because it's you know it's terrible oh you have a team sitting out down at the table a marketing team and they write down names on this blackboard at like I guess did there were like the galaxy win right like I like the again yeah i'm not sure what they want with that phone i had a question about the mega ohms and its are they going to bring the stylers or not i see you again please are they going to bring integrated stylus know so that the megaphones don't have styluses or stylee but most probably if you'll buy either a samsung alone aftermarket stylist it will work but they will not come bundle with the with the phone like the es men with what not not only that but but for example the the 5.8 has a qHD display yeah you think of that Oh God us yesterday i was doing pocket out that i was like oh my god they're trashing the galaxy brand with these rounds yeah well so it is so if i understand correctly does that mean the Megas are going to have the walk on technology built-in they're just not me no state offices they don't have welcomed technology there will be capacitive stylus Oh capacitive cells okay all right yeah continue as you were I would you I'm just want to add something to the mental explanation to the mega Brandon did you go on it's like something is going that is doing very well with selling their phones like you get they know to and the history and what the s brand and the notes brand is what it's doing so well that something don't waste money in introducing new stuff and trying from like mega and green fault media range phones is like they have demote this money to try to test these phones and if they stick with you with people they leave it like that him if its people reject the project is like okay well we don't know anything we just experimenting and that's all the main reason I think yeah but you know when is what is too much I mean how many phones the sensor has to release just to be too much last year they had like a two dozen or something like that so yes well yeah i think they release at too many phones but it's not actually to make it too many phones like like is to assure you sir that I I don't know how to say but are the variance of the same phone that doesn't bother me like we have is to as well in the u.s. you have skyrocket you have so many local knowledge to ivus Marion's to know if we're just talking about but work in Mexico we have this is one is what the days of the galaxy s advance and if the label different stone at the galaxy ace we're like well nobody's going to buy that those phones there's hotties gonna buy them I mean oh yes well I have a question of about leaving the stylus thing aha do you think like a like big boy like Samson like oh gee this is a good idea to keep the middle range phones because well I see the people like they the only the only as you seen in the TV I like for the taxi for the different companies like Samsung Apple that kind of stuff and people just want those phones well surely not necessarily I mean you and me and probably everybody on this hangout once the flagship phones but just a typical user and you're just getting your first smartphone or you are living in a country and you don't have that much luck to afford yourself a galaxy s4 you most probably go with either a prepaid version of the galaxy ace 25 or with with something else so Americans are good just don't flood the market with them no yeah I know but well in some cases well the case is well in here Mexico this one is world it works like this well if take samsung galaxy s4 comes out to the market and everybody biases and well survive some some people done because it's too expensive or whatever well the people wait till the first drop the price today for them to buy the phone is like they don't deal with let's say captain money to buy a mule race phone but they don't want it they wait till it's really price drops so they buy iphone that's why i think like well if you're gonna wear most people way to the phone drops the price why we have made arrangements i don'ts my question well this this this this must be a specific for your market for your region but you cannot globalize this entire concept i think they they are PR a marketing team and even product development teams have made their homeworks and they decided that it is good to have mid-range phones regardless if it's answer now or not yet with their lumia 510 525 21 6 10 and so on the mid rangers are good they bring the money to the company and they don't sell volumes of a single mid-range but more madrid jurors sell almost as much as a flagship in some cases so I believe that yes there is a sense for mid Rangers I love made Rangers but just don't don't bring me 25 min Rangers per year yeah well they're not gonna bring 25 open 30 yeah then do you have any final closing thoughts yeah they have you have you feel the legality the xperia c tablet i have seen it i have held it i have used it for a little bit in in barcelona at this year's MWC well the sweet hat is a problem as the phone like DF steer the end of viewing angles yeah yeah the screen the spittle e at straight shows there's either very very poor lighting or there's very horrible super huge lighting so you can't really get a sense of of how the display is and just to be completely honest with you I cannot remember because I was filming a Fisher was doing the hands-on but don't go to go to youtube and check out the hands on Fisher was handling it personally and I was behind the camera on that video and I think that if there would have been some issues with the viewing angles on the display we would have said something about it in that video okay thank you one last question we well I see the update for the Play Store and i think is very nice and well here mexico will have it yet like I I download the apk that you put in okay NASA huh but bullish it shows they catch iOS but it doesn't show anything else but it goes in it takes time to talk to the group like that totally understand what you're saying because if I am right now to launch my own google play store and I'll show you it is completely naked I mean I barely I don't have I only have apps and i only have magazines that's it you think happens let me show you what one trying to talking about like four wait what like if didn't show anything oh yeah that that just sucks most probably that's because it a leaked version and it's not the official yeah yeah I know well what I'm saying like we just get like the food movies and Google Play Books and we wait wait waiting to they will play music and the other stuff however I think like the good that takes a while to get those those stuff here that because there are very many people asking those services and asking for the gift card you know that the gift I to do and because because making people in Mexico do not have credit cards and is like nothing that you can buy anything you can do you want me to be completely honest with you yep nobody cares about your country and nobody cares my country there I don't have Google Play working in my country actually Google doesn't give a crap about other countries decide from like five or six or seven us k Spain Italy France Australia and time again Anakin concur to us nobody gives a crap about us it's all about those huge countries I wish google would come to countries like mine and yours but it doesn't happen and i'm not sure if it will happen which is such an irony because even though apple used to be the same like three or four years ago you can have all the cert all the Apple services are available now on any country that he was almost every country is supported and that's one thing but then if your country is not supported even Apple teaches you ways to create a u.s. account is everything so does yeah but I just always compared to apple because I will go get it baby ahead and look anything you know Google's game getting a very important here and hope it doesn't support it like very well no it's complicated awesome hang on tell everybody where they can find you on Twitter or Google+ or Facebook or whatever they can find you well you can find me on my google plus page is it is my with my name like this the camera is locked on you so everybody will see your name now okay thank you very much thank you for dropping by and please come again next week yeah I'll try thank you bye-bye but those get school education I'll tell you that we are we are school of an come here I'd like and let's keep anymore now I'm uh we have an obligation to mr. karthick dupa would you please talk to him yes mr. car please pronounces a memory hello how's everything everything is good everything is good that's awesome which which part of which part of them you are you from I'm from Salt it's called bangalore oh I have a friend that lives there actually oh nice there's this air this this airline I don't know if it's still there called air that can I have a lot of Endor yes pilot yeah it was bought by another a line but it's bankrupt now oh really no way which which Kingfisher Thank You chef Oh interesting interesting yes just nice just to give you an idea of how much I know about wow it's a lot like that yeah like I have like 20 Honduran pilot friends that fly a TRS in India Wow yeah yeah that's yeah they're not yeah so anyways anyways tell us about you tell us about you how is I know the Bangalore is more of a conservative city so so in India when compared to Mumbai so what like for example wouldn't what device to use I have look nokia n900 mia 920 oh and this is tablet oh which one which one do you have it's a first-generation tf101 oh that was a good tablet that was a really good yeah it is I have jelly bean running on it I was gonna ask users so you have an Android tablet and a windows phone how is that again rings it's fun I like windows because super smooth I had a sony android phone before but it kind of broke no I was rooting a lot then I think hardware broke so i bought Lumia not only something out of out of you you know your friends and everybody around you there in mangalore how many if you would have from one to ten how many of your friends use windows phones because I've heard that Windows Phone is big in India yes I mean if you say I don't what of them at have windows and five of them have Android Play probably one has an apple oh it's interesting because for example here and Lotus it's like eight have no way like three have a blackberry three have an iphone to have Android and amount of numbers for Windows Phone don't see them here I'm d I'm the only I think I'm the only hunter with the Windows Phone seriously but Windows Phone is what we have the cheaper one its Lumia 920 it's very rare well it's partially it's around saying it sells for around nine hundred thousand dollars okay sir hey I can imagine I could imagine phones the phones here crazy but ok back to the question that we have for everybody so would you like to use a stylus on your products only on a tablet not on a phone no way ok and what would you what would you consider to be your usage of a stylus on a tablet I mean would you really replace a notepad just because you're you're trying to use your tablet more nope since see I come from a civil background construction ok I I might use it to draw something other than that no not really interested I really wouldn't use it for anything else but it would really help I have this architectural software on my tablet if I had a stylist it will be really helpful no interesting interesting so what do you care what are you currently use on your computer for example you have a drop at ya know it's a autocad software from AutoCAD itself ok but you draw with the mouse then you can actually yes yeah on computer yeah uh dr. Anand freaking I mean same moss I remember that I remember that there was this can somebody correct me here there was this service I think it was for the ipad where you could you could use it an ipad to draw everything but everything was being portrayed on the computer am I correct through I'm I heard about a service where you could use an iphone to draw as like a touchpad yeah and and I I want to say that I want to say it's like a citrix application my brother he works in like networking sales and tech and stuff like that and he was telling me about something that he had I don't remember if it was iphone ipad iphone to display but it was some type of networking at app where you could use the iphone as a touchpad and then do the stuff up there so yeah I can't say more specifically those sorry it's okay it's okay so anyways any questions for the team anything you'd like to know yes I do have a question for you as well as for Anton yes I'm here and I'm listening well I was the I was wondering why is my facebook home full of high may develop pictures I mean come on I'm your only trash come on I'm your only friend that's why okay I'll flood you with my gym pictures to look at what I'm looking at oh by the way I finally got it to work good luck okay okay so oh look this is gross Oh in Carlo's it it is your friends all right all right ok so far away what's requested discussion is battery size because see my lumia is around 185 grams right it's supposed to be heavy for everyone I would not mind this weight but if the battery was bigger exactly same goes to say HTC One they're very thin I wouldn't mind a little more thicker but battery should be bigger saying i can i can talk from my experience that i cannot kill the HTC One I'm getting two and a half days of battery life and I'm tweeting screenshots all the time and I think the last week which I did was with my battery is at two days and still forty-five percent left so if you check my Twitter account you will see screenshots it's it's it handles battery life exceptionally but to your question I don't mind having thick substantial phones actually I hate I hate them phones because I have huge hands where's your Tony phone where's your Tony phone which one is the hell we call that we thought you know a cure yeah yeah only human being that I know it owns that thing listen II but this is gross this is how then the HTC One is and look at the the PureView I mean just don't look at the hump look at the body of it I mean it just and I don't mind it's it's a perfect phone and the battery life is good but it's also good on the HTC one too so inside my particular case for example I have a note to as daily driver number one and I use an iphone 5s daily driver um so battery life up I am not really about sizes it's about optimization I'll give you an example like the Xperia ZL has got better battery life than my iphone and at times it does go better than the galaxy note 2 but the thing about my note 2 is that this is a tmobile optimized phone it's not been unlocked variants so um it I've learned this about LTE and n hspa+ that works for some reason if your phone is not unlocked and you're not using on a specific carrier the battery does not last as much if I'm in the United States and I use this on tmobile it lasts for two days if I'm in the United States and i'm using the s3 which is an AT&T phone it lasts for two days if I'm using yes three but it's not the same case when I'm traveling abroad so there's something that's changed with HSPA pleasant LTE phones that don't allow them to behave their best outside their network so it's just interesting but you know for me it's not really about size it's about optimization if the company can figure out how to optimize their software in order to make your experience well like sony has with the xperia ZL and that's really what you're looking for and so far I'd say Samsung I while HTC has figured it out with the one but I'd say that sony and samsung were like the tops before that before that but HTC is showing everybody how it's done with this phone seriously so anyways um if you don't if you don't have any other questions I don't know if you'd like to share your trigger your Twitter handle for everybody i know i usually follow twitter so i don't want it I like following that's it you sound like you're talking about Google+ listen it has been a real pleasure hopefully i will someday go to your country and and actually and actually meet everybody you know what my friends have talked about so much about that country they talked so many beautiful things about it I haven't been there yet but hopefully i will so it's been a pleasure meeting you by than a Jamie one one more thing yeah bangla it's much better than bombay babes much better leave said but it's a beautiful city I really like you know what a little all year around temperature this I don't say 70 to 80 Fahrenheit it doesn't cook whoa I'm down that is amazing that is amazing that is amazing I yesterday this country was 110 Fahrenheit a hundred and ten Fahrenheit I am not kidding you but anyways it's been a pleasure meeting you and and as with everybody else we'd ask you to drop off the call somebody else enjoy pleasure take care thank you nice but Adam down ah yes sir i am going to go with i think i'm pronouncing this right gesh gir is that right yeah that's you unmute okay yeah there you are how you doing gosh what's what's going on today yeah good um it's nice to finally be here for the first time welcome welcome its nest out a few times so I thought you know try to make it brush my dinner and stuff definitely definitely okay so yeah okay Oh from how long did you say yeah yeah very nice very nice so uh anything in particular you want to talk about our topic du jour is styluses or facebook home in or outside the united states or anything you want to talk about I just want to ask about well why do see one is getting so many good reviews like is it really that good yeah the the only reason I'm answering this is because I'm the only one on this team here who has an HTC One and I think yes the only reason why the HTC One is getting good reviews is because it's a helluva phone oh and by the way by the way the guy that's telling you that right now is a guy that actually sold this one x yeah Ashton he hated it I bashed it every day and I keep on bashing at the camera sucked on a look so for the record you know just to help you amplify the 1x was a phone that all of us wanted and all of us got and none of us are using or continued using um because it was you know and we hated the fact we were really bashed when our reviews came live and everybody was like why are you bashing the phone every other outlet is talking great things about the 1x so yeah everybody everybody out there is saying that this is a great phone and you're saying that it sucks and well that's why I didn't sell that well because it sucks but then with the HTC One there is a different story Tony up to you yeah it is a different story and and you can I can talk about the HTC One until tomorrow and I don't want to convince you and i'm not sure i will convince you the best way you can get a feel of how the HTC one feels in the hand and how the user experiences is to go down to your local store play with it for 15 minutes snap pictures just jump through blinkfeed and applications and and I know whether you fall in love with it or not it's up to you but I completely love it yeah cuz I just I've just been handed an HTC and Sony Xperia z4 my job I was really lucky to get one it was uh mandatory and I've been pretty impressed with it so far so I don't really see how the HTC can improve from that what if you guys say it said good luckily they did and I don't want to hijack Adams conversation so go let's go back to Adam no that's why I mean hey tony is the resident HTC One expert here so I will defer to his greater knowledge I've never even had a hand on it so I mean but I mean the more and more I hear about it the more and more it sounds like a really good phone having said that however I actually was presented with a choice do I want a galaxy s3 or do I won an HTC One X and I fought myself for a long time until I finally settled on the gs3 Android and and after hearing you know like what all my colleagues have said about it I'm just I can't believe I dodged that bullet but I mean HTC really impressed me with their presentation of the One X you know I remember watching it live and it seemed like really solid really great device and from what I hear it's crap so all right winter clothes don't get me wrong the phone the phone and was the beautiful colony it's a great design the polycarbonate feels good but it was the display the display remember Tony it was you it was the best display on the market last year was very close yes so it was good two things that bother me number one was the crappy camera and number two it was lagging oh yeah yeah it was really it was really laggy and it would piss you off because sets was so beautiful but you're in behind man we were in Barcelona together and we were yeah we were the presentation but we were at the presentation we were seeing we were there with Peter Chao and he was talking and the guy convinced me I mean I don't think I was sold so much by actually holding the phone than by the guys presentation you know he may not have the best English but he is a great show man he is really good and you know he sold his phone really well and I was like Tony I don't care the company gives me a phone or not I am buying this phone and i actually did i bought my phone and till this day i repent I'm i bought my plunging but then again I sold it yeah lucky you I haven't been able to sell it nobody in this country knows about the one extra knew about it when it was like believe it but everybody here it's you see the toilets filled with ads of the galaxy s so what I had to go get me one I had to go get me 10 anyways that's what you okay so okay so is the HTC One a great phone yes okay so anything else you are the time you guys think of the upcoming s4 because I don't know the way I see it as the HTC One might be a better phone but because Samsung has better marketing baby no that's that's the best phone but I think what the s4 is basically aspect bomb from the from the s3 I mean it's if you have an s3 like I do I have absolutely no interesting going out to buy the s4 especially considering that everything in the tech world says that the s3 yet others samsung phones are all going to get the same software that the s4 was touting with their horrible horrible acting so having said that you know the HTC One has a remarkable product with um you know great feel great design great everything and the s4 has you know great software and an already great phone that's a little bit greater so it's going to be it's really going to be a clash of the titans I honestly think Samsung is probably going to come out on top um but I think HTC is going to take quite a big piece of their of their cherry pie away from them so I'll people Peter's Peter bravados making the comment here that's because Sam's actually supports their phones you make a good point that but HTC is picked picked it up a bit there they're doing a better job in with software updates let's just see how they treat their older devices yeah see ya okay anything else do you want to do do you want to share your twitter handle or anything or well I'm not really active on Twitter I'm just following but you can follow what you can add me on Google+ sure go on just tell everybody spell it out or or tell it the where where I just like in the end of church i can give gesture so let me spell try to spell it out it's g e sh j e double r yeah yeah awesome well great to have you on and you know again we're going to have you go ahead and drop off let somebody else in the door and enjoy the rest of your day see you next week maybe I here and since since the ladies don't really want to talk to me that's that's the sense i'm getting from from the Chad I'm gonna talk to somebody who has something to say or at least I think like that Peter let's let's unmute and let's talk hey how's it going everything is awesome where are you from I'm from New York your friend here yes how's the weather in Europe all right now it's raining yeah it's just the same every time I talk with my guys from from the east coast the weather is exactly the same like it is here in Romania because we're probably at the same latitude so what do you want to talk about styluses or anything else stylist I'll go with stylists let's talk about styluses uh I think back in the day um it was needed because the screens were smaller you know less a more compact and everything but now the screens are so big I don't I don't really think you need them anymore well the the thing would I i agree with you and I would agree with you up to a point but I have to I want to pull out an older here look at this tummy look at this whole lot i feel like my camera on you leave this man oh i was one stylist to man that's gross so I was a beater I would agree with you but the Samsung has managed to back a lot of functionality in this this thing in this plastic little thing I mean aside from the fact that is sure sensitive and it has a button this coupled with the software which we which they are offering offers you a complete and unique user experience and I can talk right now about whether you can have notes with pressure sensitivity whether you can DoubleTap the launch it's just adds a plus to that user experience while I'm gonna invent the concept now this is the smart stylist and what we had back in the day was the dumb stylist because that was just this yeah that was just a piece of metal with a plastic tip and this this is harder than that okay just piece of plastic so that's that what I think about styluses do do I use the stylus on the note to know well I definitely agree with you is it a good thing that it's there for those who might want to use I know Fisher use it all the time yeah so bring it on it it doesn't hurt to be there no you're right but you know I never read got a galaxy note 2 so I never really had the stylus support but my friend had it and he uses it when he needs it but for the most part it's there like you said I used it so when I when I got the the note 2 Fisher brought it to me to barcelona i use the S Pen non-stop for the first day and then I just take it up never I show it to you guys we're talking about the s pen yeah I know that's what she said thing here switch well you're probably looking for a bigger Espen aren't you ok let's go let's not go there let's get back here like most people say like about the S Pen they usually say they use it to sign off contracts you know real business use uh me I I don't see what what I i think i don't i'm not a fan of writing my notes with the s pen on the phone but i find this interesting for instance when i'm browsing something i just want to maybe cut out a segment as a screenshot paste it into an email and send to somebody or if I'm looking at the aim apps on Google and I want to have a screenshot of that I just double tap and immediately annotate meet me here or party here and I just send it out as an email something which I couldn't do or I be doing in more steps if I'd be using this stylish so it's just innovation those little small things at a get it going yeah anything else you want to talk about regardless of topic um you know the HTC one that's been the biggest topic for like the last month and a half or whatever yeah but it will it will stop being that once the galaxy s4 comes out because all the media is gonna get the it's going to get the attention of the entire media but I think that this year will have a huge fight last year the HTC One X was no match to the galaxy s3 this year the one might stand a chance it will probably not sell ten percent of what the galaxy s4 will sell but that the game the match the faceoff will be more fair and balanced honestly um it was about maybe in december or something when i first heard about the m7 hmm i didn't really think it was gonna be a flagship i thought was just gonna be a new HTC phone you know leave it at that but it really blew up like that immediately you know I'm stime the camera freak and for me the HTC one would be the perfect phone if it had a better camera now the four ultrapixel camera on the HTC One does not suck but it's not your flagship smartphone camera either so it's I I great the camera a six point five or seven depending on what what you use it for if you're using it for printing then don't buy it if you're using it for social media and lots of low light images then that's the camera for you alright well my last question would be um this phone the HTC amaze 4g this is what i bought because it was the best camera at the time as well it was a good phone yep yeah what would you rate the HTC is one camera compared to this well to be honest i have not used that phone so i'll probably pass on this i I'll tell you compare compared to I can compare it to the iphone to the PureView to the note 2 to the s3 it is below all of these but not not by a huge margin so it stands out it definitely wins the entire show when you compare low-light images it has exceptional low light image sensitivity but if you are taking a shot in a bright sunny day outside and you're taking that shot with the iphone 5 with the galaxy s3 and with the HTC One in my opinion the one is on the third place but it's not put to shame but it's just my personal perspective that I'm seeing a little bit of noise and single bit washed out things and and you know I'm like Brenda minimum is a freak of pixels I'm a freak of cameras I think that if you keep the photos for facebook only it'll be fine yeah absolutely which is mostly what everybody does yeah plus it has those awesome camera effects in the application which you can apply on the fly or you can apply after you take the image and I usually just always bump up the saturation and contrast and Adam Lane used to mock me that hey that's a crappy camera it has all the white balance and the exposures off I mean it's an effect yeah but it's not the classic so yeah let's call the Instagram they're supposed to look bad that you're dead here do you have any any final thoughts or questions for either one of us no that's it but thank you guys for having me thank you for joining and if if your Twitter or Google+ or Facebook guy tell everybody where they can find you google and facebook it's a fork / peter da privato that's it so you're not a Twitter fan I have it but I don't even use it not a fan understand so you're not buying that the Twitter phone I'll follow you love Twitter phone thanks for dropping by please come back whatever have time sure thing take care bye bye and uh mr. Rivera luera you can use a browser nobody better buddy better let's talk to Madeline she's been waiting yeah yeah I'm a bad guy cuz I don't want to talk to her and you're a good guy cuz you talk to her thank you thank you Matt a little pleasure to meet you no thank you now is your flag from Sweden or Switzerland I didn't like wow thank you I sorry all right sorry a pleasure to meet you how are you I'm great great great which part of Denmark I used to have a classmate from in high school would God hi matt has friends all over the place seriously you know you rescue his mother was what is of a service that a community service that would bring donations to the country back after a hurricane that happened here and so he was a really good friend but sadly I have not been able to find them on Facebook or any social network sadly completely lost contact he was ruined he was from Copenhagen oh well that's the main big city I'm farmer-owned sir okay I don't know how crowns Danny don't worry don't worry just pronounce it the way you do in your country and that's be the best pronounce yeah I don't say rivera or jamie i say hey maybe I don't know it's it's named after the god Odin Oh interesting interesting okay so tell us about you tell us about you what devices to use well the HTC it's in my pocket um with the quad oh that was oh what that was a that was the anybody remember me that was the g2 yeah uh but it had a name I'm trying to remember that was the desire it's all right desire c said desire z yeah man I really wanted that phone and came out I I had the touch pro two and since i love the keyboard so much i love the fact that I was staggered and I'm trying to look for the phone and I can't find it but I i love it there we go i love the fact that the keyboard on that phone was like this one this was a really good fun well i think it's a bit different there's no space between oh yeah that keyboard was much bigger trust me so um well it's fine but i wouldn't buy this film oh really why not Gus uh um I like nokia and sony whoa I've told this before so so why did you get that phone my sister handled it over to me when my old phone broke my god okay so anyways we are talking about styluses today and the question being is uh would you use it do you want it on your device's it's something you feel you need well I don't know what I had um an HP smart smart touch smart once oh yeah yeah yeah but that was a yeah that was a capacitive display yeah yeah and it had a stylist with it and sometimes I used it and sometimes I didn't and while it was mainly in the beginning and then a dish did so yeah yeah you know the software implementation on those HP TouchSmart they were so bloated that they were they would always lag i remember i wanted to buy one at some point it was either that or a macbook pro and i ended up buying the macbook pro I just felt it was too laggy out of the box yeah I wasted so much money on that really good product you can say leavin soon vanish you can say the Danish oh yes oh but your experience with styluses has been bad but that means that you were actually looking for a product that had you actually wanted it actually I want to have a stylist that is so great that i can use it to drawn on a tablet hmm interesting interesting yeah you should probably give out any of these note products from samson a try they they actually do a good job much better than HP I'll tell you that yeah but um if I'll want to get a tablet they have to be a windows really yeah i don't know i like the interface but i have to face some of the problems okay don't don't ask us if we like what those tablets please I'm you didn't don't push us there ask us any quit it's your turn to ask a question but ask us anything except if we like Windows that well aren't you going to ask if you would review more windows tablets so I am sorry I am sorry you know we okay just for a round that we we program with Tony the the different videos that we're going to do so which devices are coming up for after the buzz and which devices are coming up for worse gadgets ever and so we were like which is the next worst gadgets ever and I'm like surface RT yeah well the RTI agree with it was some mistake you know I think I commend Microsoft I i salute Microsoft for doing something very smart I feel I hate I I'm being honest here I hate that I need to use a mac for work and then an ipad for play because one is not good for the other and the other is not good for the other and i love the idea of the surface pro especially the surface pro i like the concept of having one product that does everything the problem is that the technology is not there yet it is not there yet and i think it will make sense with windows 9 probably uh when tablets get you know because the problem with those surface pro is that it's a thick tablet gonna be wanting to haul that thing well I don't know Adam Lane will disagree with you well Adam Adam disagrees with about everything well great too because i like when products is a bit more thick than others yeah yeah again I feel that it was a it was a bold move and you know the reason why we don't review more windows tablets is you know first of all the tablets that we focus on or the slate tablets not the keyboard ones and as it turns out for example you were waking we were waiting for the Samsung of TV tab and it was pulled it was pulled from the map it didn't even make it um then just think about how many other certain how many other windows tablets are there except for the envy x2 that that we had a tough time getting for review and then eventually Michael add to buy and we you know we just didn't review that product altogether but it's just it's there are a lot of products but it's interesting I mean even delos saying that they have no faith in windows 8 and so we are if you if you want to compare how many windows seven products were launched last year in comparison to windows 8 products this year that will reveal why we haven't reviewed more windows tablet sadly well have you heard about the new racer gaming tub yeah yeah we have uh what was that do Tony by the way I have no idea i've not heard of it well on unbox therapy they have one now really really happy we're so looking well thank yesterday all earlier this morning oh please share please share the link of you can on the comments we'd love to see it i love to see you have to find it oh don't worry take your time take your time this video is gonna be live for about an hour thanks but but again you know i feel that again you're a Windows fan but do you currently have any tablet or any windows salad or you're just wrong I'm looking for tablet and I don't know what to get because I'm really I'm really Peggy well if you're into windows I will tell you this much the surface pro is something it is we were not expecting this tablet to be so good uh we had high hopes for it but not as high it is a very powerful product so do not spend money on Windows RT it is a waste of money if I were you just save up a little more money and go for the surface pro if you're into a tablet that's also a computer I think that's like your best pic well that's what that wasn't my plan but I don't think we have the pro and Denmark yet mmm well it's it was recently launched here in there it's been a month old in the United States so it'll take some time but again you know if you're gonna go windows surface pro I think it's your best pic so far you know Adam you know Adam it may be he may be a Windows fan but he's not a fanboy he'll tell you if the product is not good and so far he's he's telling he's told us that the products just like out of this world out of this world in comparison so it's really good so anyways any other questions for the team well I think I doom remember the earldom phone I think it was one of the first smartphones with a stylus is it had a code named diamond I'll see if you Dixie touch diamonds ya know to us are from being the first smart that was far from being the first well it was the first one in Denmark Oh interesting and also I think it was the first with a vga displayed but my might be wrong ah no well there were pocket pcs with vga display psychedelic seem the dell xing five and five or something like that uh that was like the first vga displayed but the thing about the touch diamond that it was a two inch display with a vga resolution it was a really beautiful phone and even if it was windows mobile i think that that was like the best version of touch what was it touch fellow Tony yep that you know touchflo back then was not laggy at all so it really pissed me off when I picked up this HTC touch pro2 because it was extremely laggy on this phone in comparison to the touch diamond which was much more under power than this thing so anyways anyways oh that was everyone I remember and my friend had that one and I just remember it was so I don't want I really didn't like it I loved it something I just my job I love that phone it was a beautiful phone it was HTC showing their thoughtfulness you pulled out the style is and it turned on to display was my manager remember those days yeah it was magnetic oh man you're so old boy thanks art okay so here's the deal if you remember what phones were sold at the time that the touch diamond was out it was this thing which was the the herald determining the airman's and yeah and then we had devices like this for example we had the the Q so i can't believe i still have this all about sometimes a museum will pay good money for thank you thank you but the point being is devices were so ugly well this was a pretty fun but this was ugly and then when you shot a touch dines in such a beautiful phones wait it was really pretty i remember the first time that i turned it on and then there was this little circle in the bar at the bottom yeah you remember that thing would like that was your LED indicator I was like man HTC you guys are amazing I remember that and the battery cover with all the angles in the triangles with the diamond shape that that that was awesome that was a good phone knows I think that's what subscript e back then no but it's a good it was a good phone but anyways Madeline it's been a pleasure meeting you would you like us to follow you on any specific social network I think I left my tour to ya oh let me just lock my camera on you yeah yeah hope it isn't married because it is there it is there we can definitely see it I can see it fine I can see it fine it has been a pleasure hopefully i will someday go to your country my friend talk beautiful things about it well it's okay when it's summer right i was so freaking cool hello I'm a bit because it's so freaking cold okay yesterday it was I was saying 110 degrees Fahrenheit which is 43 degrees Celsius oh jeez if that's no better I think it's too aggressive such as here it's about Freddie yes 30 35 35 degrees yeah that's crazy that's crazy well anyways a pleasure meeting you thank you for joining us and we hope to see you next week I'll try to join it's really hard to join no problem we have to fight for them but enough nuns really biting them keep fighting that well you it's a pleasure see ya ah everyone over to Tony before I hand it over myself to Adam I'm desperately trying to keep up with the comments on YouTube but they're just scrolling like infinitely and just just the answer a couple of questions if you guys on YouTube have specific questions for us just write question all caps and have the comment like that so it pops up from everything and yes I'm half hungarian half romanian i speak both languages I have both citizenships thank you for that back to Adam all right i am gonna go with is it's a czar or a caesar or how am I supposed to pronounce that hey za a romanian friend yeah i was actually closer the first time so how you doing today well just fine i got home from iu school I you know I enjoy it every day when i get home so um so our topic du jour today is the stylist should it be standard again and if you say no you're wrong mom but now i'm just kidding um so but yeah what do you what do you think about Silas should we bring it back or should we leave it buried first let me show you a device I don't know if anyone knows this it's a chick d 689 I think was a weird phone with the stylus which I lost which had dual sim capabilities in some other funky shit long way back so if I enjoy a stylist I would use it for recreational purposes yeah I remember I'm one of my first smartphones was the treo 650 and I just remember no yeah you're gonna make nice never pop I used I used to use this stylus all the time it I lost a couple of them I've you have no choice you have no choice anyway well it was either that or you know a closed pen do that but yeah i just i miss styluses I really do so um just like just a little half well there is always that but now I just I just I need to have that precision I need to have that accuracy the the current workarounds that are in place you know the drag handles and stuff like that it's just not good enough for me i want that precision I want that I just I want to be able to you know say oh I screwed up typing something I'm gonna tap right there and get rid of that extra letter and said try it out there now there nope you're gonna get it r rating man come on and there's Adam there's this new thing where were you tap and hold and the entire cursor turns into a magnifying glass and you can go letter by letter and then you relax enough not good enough I want you first try you remember those days when you would pull out your stylist and you will look so businesslike you know you were there on the subway or something you were writing something down back in the day would Paul when palm pilots were not common and everybody would look at you like wow hi may I still look there's this like right anyway so um yeah so um good stuff so I hear you are you on the stylist train then sound like it kind of work so okay I'm waiting for the next Nexus 7 and I hoping I'll get the stylus or something from a market that works with it I want some stylus capability for relaxation a little drawing something like that yeah and you know that's another thing about drawing is if you've ever played draw something oh yeah I need a stylist for that game because man I just my big fingers here I can't I can't I can't even draw a dog without being like it looks like balloon animal I mean so you're talking about big fingers what are you talking about big figures the jumping thing is being this I love fair enough yes yeah I definitely am on board that train so was there anything you want to talk about aside from how awesome styluses are actually wondering something from what I understand fuckin else an editorial how does how do you guys make revenue out of it you get sponsorships or what can you talk about that I'm going to defer to Tony on that if he can even just I'm the new guy so I really don't know where the money comes from what's that I was muted and I was checking through the comments can you please repeat what the question was about how the spike in now make revenue oh well it's very easy when you go to our website and you see our beautiful content you also see our beautiful ads so make sure to click on as much as possible and the side front death no turning turning this into a real answer if you go to pocket now and i'll probably drop a link or i'll post it on twitter if you follow me to an article written by brandon minimum like six or seven months ago explaining exactly how we function and there there you can see everything but the main idea is that we function by by ads and the as just any other media outlet we are not sponsored by any huge company like others are with AOL or sprint but the click on those and i will make us happy okay i was good not gonna get back to the comments let me get back to your comments so uh yeah so I mean I I kind of figured it was something like that you know you know we we uh you know we do do a lot of editorials we do a lot of reviews and so um you know like any website we're interested in traffic so um you know that's it's just kind of how we roll so that's easy peasy yeah and for the record pocket now has been we've been on the air since tues as the year 2000 when pocket pcs rule the world and they made palm look like nothing sorry Adam sorry God go ahead kick the dead guy yeah you think yeah it works out oh yeah but but we've we've been here for forever ever since blogs begun what they are and so you know what has helped Pachelbel succeed well it's been the amount of time that we've been on the air most most of the mostly because of that and you know a lot of our readers are have been here since the old days since we clearly didn't know what capacitive this place were back then Oh lots of things it's it's a lot of history here a lot of history so I was listening to some of that history on the pocket down weekly where you were talking about um well sassy bob was it oh yeah I was intrigued enough to go watch a couple of those videos and and you saw Sarah shrimp you saw that HTC Rhyme video that was genius you know I she came up with the whole idea you know for example a lot of the videos that we do like for example after the buzz was Michael Fisher's idea fully Michael Fisher's idea worst gadgets ever was his idea and so usually what we do is we you know he tells us okay this is our idea this is the way we should do the video we brainstorm we decided with Tony and when Brandon we and we implemented um but in that case she was alone she was like okay I'm gonna do something different I'm gonna do something uniquely you guys gonna love it and it was really good I mean sexy Bob is very talented very every time yes she is she has a creative talent that I don't but at the same time and I and I said this yesterday on Twitter I said small doses small doses for sassy Bob for me so but yes so uh since already anything else you want to talk about or no just congratulation for the great war keep it up thank you my internet was down for a week and I have to make up with all the videos podcasts and so on tonight will be nice and busy so did you want to Jerry did you want to share any type of a social media name is really my favorite artists just to follow you guys in a few other editorials fair enough fair enough are all right well everybody says are as awesome and we thank you for joining us and and I have enjoyed the rest of your evening and I will turn it back on over to Tony then yeah thank you i will hold before I pick the next person to talk to I will try to answer a couple of questions which we're getting on the YouTube feed so in no specific order I just catching them as they're flying in and copy pasting it into something else so for instance i received the question for we received the question from RTE CPC he says will there be a nexus 5 this year it will be a nexus 5 it will not be a google i/o this is my personal opinion google i/o is the time if you remember last year when google introduced the nexus 7 so it's time for a nexus 7 update and we will probably get that and towards autumn when when there's a one year cycle of from the nexus 4 to the nexus 5 they're probably be a nexus 5 now whether if it would be 5 inches or it will be the fifth iteration of the nexus phone that's yet unknown another question is and guys feel free to interrupt me if you have any other ideas or you don't agree with what i say another question is from h1 is the HTC One not the same design as the butterfly except an aluminum aluminum won't know it's not the same design if you pull up a picture of the HTC One and compared with the HTC butterfly or j butterfly you will see that first of all the butterfly is not so thin and it's not so tapered towards the edges now if you come to the front of it you'll see that the HTC One has dual speakers on top and on the bottom and the bottom layout is not the same turning it to the back you also see some differences so it's not it's not by far the same situation as it is with the s3 s4 and last but not least and this I think it will handle hand this over to Adam zoni TV says what do you think of webos overlay for android devices I tried using webos courtesy of Adam doubt who sent me a awesome the smallest phone on this planet I would not like that on an android phone but probably Adam will disagree with me um a webos overlay I mean we can depend on how was implemented I mean if you could make android run like webos there's a riot the paradigm would be awesome you know the card the card you I was really interesting yeah form a preferred for me what killed it with webos was using the most powerful webos phone out there which was the pre three which I gave over to Michael because it was a sluggish phone well and it's interesting that you mentioned parts because as far as Android is concerned this is as close as it gets to the cards this is the the multi-user multi multi tasking interface on the HTC One and these are cards and you just wipe them off as as you would on any web wise device yeah but it's it's the double tap it was good cool true true coo coo I just I just I really like the gesture based system to you know just swipe up from the bottom my phones like I still swipe up from the bottom because I want to get to the card view and so I just I you know if you could make that work it would be great I would definitely I would definitely use it whether or not i kept it would be a different story but you know i still have mytouch fed and it still runs web of us so i mean i haven't put android on it or i had android down and I took it off I'm just because I wanted webos better so okay thank you for your input let me talk to mr. whole hunter hi guys I hear you how are you damn fine we had talked I think last week you have to talk to one of my colleagues you're from Germany right yeah it's that's right I talked to Brandon out to Brandon okay now you're talking to me so nice I'm not gonna make a Robert DeNiro impression like you're talking to me okay so what do you want to talk about styluses or anything else don't let hymen um yeah well I personally don't need statuses I am I just my pocket pc saw windows mobile phones um yeah the first windows mobile phone was fitted HTC touch with cash flow 2d oh yeah but I think that was a work that was a 1d but it was asked there was so late but do you guys remember what was this entire touchflo thing introduced i think it was introduced on the HTC elf the initial touch the small round one the fat one and I used to call it the cube because you would slide up and then you would her head and it would switch like a queue but it was a triangle yeah and it would it wasn't only that you could you know HTC one was the first windows mobile phone that you can flick squirrel like you could on the iphone oh yeah you remember that yeah I'm too old yeah thanks for reminding me back to you both yeah so but after i switch to android I don't need this Islands anymore okay tell me have you used a galaxy note or no 2 or note 10.1 and I never owned one but my father-in-law has an a galaxy note 10.1 and yeah it's okay when you have a template such a big tablet I've got a nexus 7 but on it on a 10 inch tablet okay and it's maybe there's room to use the stylus but some for me personally I only do on the phone I do typing so i use guess you're typing more swiftkey something like that stylus like on Windows more well I'm not gonna be I'm gonna play devil's advocate because for a sake of conversation not because i'm a fanboy of the stylist I couldn't care less about it just to be honest don't you think that it will it would make your life easier under a couple of circumstances like i said i'm not sure if you watch the show before for instance when you just snap a screenshot of a map and make an annotation on that with your hand and you send it off by an email or you just cut out the section of a web page when you're browsing and send add to somebody or you make annotations on your calendar these are probably the only things I can think of using the stylus on my phone I don't Michael Fisher used to play with the with editing his his pictures and using the status as a brush that's not me yeah that's not me but I I would probably use it for us don't you think it would be useful under these circumstances do you have a stylist sure so well if i use screeches I crop them to fear anything too much yeah if you really need this I mean if it's theirs it's okay if you it's a depends on you if you use it or not so it's nice to have told me it's you can use it if you want but personally for me yes it's not I don't need it I understood and the most probably the two of us are on the same wavelength because I I don't care about the stylish either is there anything else you want to talk about about I don't know whatever crosses your mind yeah and this goes to you Hyneman um I I pronounce your name right is right you try you try to drive the German language too small Thank You slot and i think sundays ago Google make this offer with this giveaway and you make a fun pasta here I wanted you to use Twitter and not google glass though i'm on twitter yeah yeah but the the reason why i want to ask us m do you prefer a facebook or twitter morning class or is he a to the plus i agree ok yeah I what okay the problem Google+ is that um you know I feel ok this is me particularly first of all not nobody that I know is on google+ let's start with that only my you know my pocket now friends are there but then none of my personal friends are in Google+ because you know I think that Facebook has been able to satisfy their needs up to the point where they have not one tomorrow wanted to migrate um that's the first thing the second thing is my problem with Google+ is that it's not any better than facebook or twitter it's just it's just a combination of both and so I feel that Google is bold enough to build something that actually makes you want to use it and they just not put enough head to it so and you know what when I saw that it's like you have to follow the google play store drills like what that is hilarious following where I was like well what happens to go up was I'm like Google this is terrible forget about your giveaway fine give away your talents and proxxon whatever you want you want people to follow you on another social network that is embarrassing it's like asking Apple you remember when they brought their ping social know that that feel that just sucked I mean seriously they were so contient that they had screwed up with the concept that they killed it and I feel that they're trying you know they're trying to make google+ something hot but it's not any better than anything else and that's the reason why I don't like it it's except for the hangouts the only reason why I have Google+ is for the hangouts that's the only reason okay maybe maybe Google flush ago by appt net so a negative and they could like go meet up at a bar and drink their sours of Sorrows under the table so yeah yeah serious okay meantime yeah I wasn't be monitoring because them especially here in Germany people care about privacy so if you think of Facebook you think of oversharing yes on google+ it's all optional it's up to you if you use an option on that but in an on facebook and it's launched and it's activated in the limit this is gonna sound funny the other thing i don't like about google+ is the app it is everything is just yeah well you can't see more than through two things at once on my note 2 good because of this because of the design of the cards i feel that they're trying to be modern but there are certain it's like it's like when Johnny I and he you need a bigger yeah no I you know it's not a bigger phone like for example when Johnny I've came up with the original the for the second generation macbook pro I mean the the USB ports were so connected together that the computer was beautiful but it didn't make sense you couldn't use them at the same time and it was stupid so in the in the case in the case of Google+ when you're in a feed what you want to see is you want to see the more in the less the least amount of efforts and since the cards are so big and beautiful they're not functional and it's just stupid on my book that's me all right okay I understand done and the next thing you never got interrupted by social games or something no I hate those facebook you you always got this them hoes I'm actually I'm actually deleting out my friends the minute I see they're posting something for the inviting me to a stupid game show no thank you i know exactly your let me go let me go log on to my farm bill right now okay I'll be right back Col de ver me front of your gym pictures thank you spare me from your polar watchman come on well you know hey all those games they all spam me exactly once because then I block them and it's no longer a problems that's the thing about Facebook it's gotten smarter it's not the same thing as it started so that's the reason why people are still there yeah okay bowl do you have any any final thoughts yeah well it's great to be here and thank you for your comments today it's you it's good to have you here thank you very much for joining the camera has been locked on you for the past couple of seconds so that people can see her twitter handle go follow bowhunter on that twitter account he's an awesome guy thank you very much for joining us have a nice weekend there you do take care bye bye before I hand it over to him and I'm gonna try to answer quickly the last batch of questions from YouTube I cannot say your name I'm sorry a question what I the idea is what do you think should he get the note 2 or should he wait for the galaxy s4 now it's it all depends on what you want from your phone if you want a big phone a phablet phone you want the S and definitely go with the note 2 or if you can wait wait for Aoife because we'll have the note 3 if you want a phone and you don't care about the s pen and you want a fast them because the s4 is about fastest android phone out there then definitely get the s4 and the same person asked me and i think he answered his own question can i get the galaxy s4 from the US or the UK absolutely in the UK our friends club that code at UK in the US are friends negri electronics and last question are you going to review the Padfone infinity or the fonepad yes as soon as we get them we will review them and I'm gonna hand it over to time and thank you guys everybody for your questions on YouTube and trying to catch up with all the comments but it's kind of difficult ok a party of este momento omaha continual hang out again spaniels and translate means as of this moment will continue in Spanish but anyways dematha hello get to see me oh really how are things in Santiago um the only time to expand into English now let's go English come on come on we have lots of yours we don't want to go up there's a hangout lately has been extremely hot it's been terrible in the tropics lately and then that's because we have a lot of cold fronts coming in which is ironic in this time of year but I never years ago um I used to live in a house and the trees will go from one side of the street to the other yellow boys hot shadow and yeah um from me all the way to July you will rave constantly now if it raised one day it's a miracle don't know your ears yeah yeah for the record everybody the tropics of this season are are terrible we we get south winds here so in our case my neighboring countries Nicaragua and they burn a lot of sugarcane there and so all that smoke from Nicaragua comes over through the south winds here and it creates a greenhouse effect so that's the reason why we have 110 degrees sell Fahrenheit that's the reason is suffocating over there it's it's horrible it's horrible but anyways I i forgot what phone you had you have an HTC phone I have the HTC Sensation XL okay so tell us are you interested in a stylist not necessarily for that phone but obviously a smarter stylist to work on your future phone okay i'm going to show you that something is going to be on my face this is the phone that I used to have is the sony ericsson yes diamonds Frankie on the corner yeah I'm trying to remember the does anybody remember what operating system that ran you remember Tony the p900 I think it was oh yeah yeah he 9910 it was it was a custom operating system yes I don't think it all sony ericsson's had at the time had the same operating system it was basically the same but just started what does the differences that was symbian they used to use a version of symbian for those phones you think yeah it was symbian i remember it was symbian those were the days those phones are really expensive extremely expensive they were they were um I don't know like 300-400 father sometimes three hundred four hundred dollars they cost a thousand dollars here already yo yeah yeah that one was product that the people nine ten you remember it was a fun it was it had a touch screen and then it had a flip with the numbers yes some of the flip that phone was extremely expensive those were those were the place I don't want to go back to that this one it wasn't that expensive because it doesn't have a camera it was just touch screen and it had a stylist but I'm going back to the thing I had that phone and I never lost the side of this but at the same time I never actually used it i will use just my fingernail cuz it wasn't with them lucky you cuffing your nails you got fingernails look at you hey by the way you know that's an interesting question does anybody remember which was the last phone you had that didn't have a camera my last phone was the Motorola be 60 Tony do you rember know my first thought was the HTC Trinity and that had a crappy but still carried it it had a camera Adam what did you have I'm looking around for I think my kids have it it was a nokia um do you remember the n-gage yeah yeah that was a yeah it wasn't the end gage was the pre cursor to that it was the same shape as the n-gage and it had a full qwerty keyboard on either side of the screen yeah it was a nokia 3100 i think as well was it the one which popped out like this you could open it no there was no topping it was just whatever fixed it was fixed yeah yeah the second one the second version was the one that popped in and out and I used to hand the phone on my wife so she could talk and she's like which end do I talked into it looked like a game remote but it was like it was a full keyboard i love that phone so I remember yeah I answered because I had the impression that we were talking about smartphones but since we're not talking about smartphones I had lots of phones without any cameras and I'm gonna probably do a picture in both the twitter i still have a couple of hanging around here numboat you know what we were talking with Michael because in the in the podcast yesterday we were talking about aluminum and if it's the adequate material for you to build a phone and so we we debated you know because if you drop this iphone 5 the Shatford edges are just going dead so we remembered that it that the motorola be 60 had brushed aluminum and it worked out fine you can drop that phone and it was a very resilient so I and I think it's probably well let's do the stylus conversation since we're talking about this hold on just one thing I have to tell this do you remember the good old HTC hd2 not this yeah yeah there's no aluminum and I shrink I'm not sure if it was stainless steel or not but this you couldn't see a shit you couldn't bend it this was like freaking titanium yeah I don't know that was a good phone such a good friend but about anyways but anyways then SSO you don't think you need a stylist step well got all the pants cuz I always try to look at it sorry oh no you gotta share that you gotta share that come on sorry it's my ringtone for when i get messages no no it's not only your ringtone from now on you're gonna share with everybody come on that's super mario using you and you rule whomever gets a notification notification live while we broadcast they have to show it off they need to read it absolutely okay let's ask let's ask another word Preston which was the first version of mario brothers that you played I faith I played the original first one what about you yes I played the original well I don't know if it was the reason or what but me and my brother when I was little when Nintendo came the first concert 88 bit the 8-bit Nintendo yes like the first console man oh I think it no it not the first one but the Super Nintendo the kind of honored that was a second one that was the second one yeah but that was more that was mario world that was that was even ten times better than the first one well we had that and a Sega and we got a whole bunch of video games and that was like that was my main activity as a child that was it has been my world since then video games all the way oh wow Tony with Tony which was your first version the original but do you keep on forgetting that we are old man we're both far from let me look at these young people come on uh Adam help i go back i go back to donkey kong so I don't want you the original Mario Brothers come on that was the first operation that Ohio did but he didn't even have a name he was exactly he was in Donkey Kong and on that when Donkey Kong became a game on itself and he was on come on that other that you had to go up the things oh yeah yeah yeah we are so geeks we're okay but you want to know exactly how much of a geek I am I am not lying to you how many can you believe i have never owned the game console ever works I have never had one and it's just funny because I'm really good for by I love playing games but you know my family was very poor we couldn't afford one yeah uh and you know eventually ended up growing up and I don't know I've been debating over buying a PlayStation but try to convince me well the thing is I was just like you be living third world country most people are not no don't have the money and those councils back then and even now they're extremely expensive if you compare mean one dollar one u.s. dollar years 38 pesos I mean I'm okay here here's 20 here it's 20 so I have a worse than you and um the only console that I've ever owned are the Sega the Nintendo disappearing Nintendo a dreamcast and it was a second handed and a playstation 2 oh she was like salinity the only consoles that I had yeah but then we always like secondhand all have it I don't I don't I am serious I'll give you an idea you know it's it's it's still a thing you know my mother she still has the same job that she had back then and a PlayStation is still a full months gallery of my mother sadly that's that's how bad that's gross dad that's how bad things are here sadly so you know thank God for for forever you know the evolution and everything and thank God that I'm able to serve my mother but that's how bad things are now can you imagine the way they were back then because of consoles being so cheap I turn into a pc gamer because my brother had got his faith his first shopping his dream was to have this amazing computer so we can play video games and ever since then I've been a pc gamer yeah as well well we we gotta cut it short we're running out of we ran out of time yes we did yeah Dean answer any questions or anything you'd like to share before we go yes to finish the conversation that completely can not change because of my reins on earth sciences I have two sides of the story I mean on one side it is good for people that do specific things on their phones for trying and things like that exactly but for people like me I mean I had one on the on the phone on the m6 m600 and it didn't have a camera that was the last one I had a camera that i own and i didn't use it because it was shows i had to keep the qwerty keyboard and hide everything else I could do everything with my fingers up with that actually you also do certain specific things it's a good thing but having them back is really good because they're always something that you can do with them yeah you will never like just disregard them completely definitely yeah it's all about it or something if it's nice to have it's nice to have but well anyways the nesa it is always a pleasure talking to you thank you for joining thank you for joining the Hangout as always it's a pleasure talking to you and I am handing it over to Tony now yeah and we're gonna go forth full circle we are out of time and we are over time but let's let's go to Adam and this is going to be our last call oh I was anticipating not having anyone okay uh let's go with how about Jeremy Finley yeah that's you alright cool hey there is I ask you everything I was going to get into this cow you're gonna get it either so that makes two of us natural I again button you've dropped in and out like a hundred times I think so what part where are you from I am from Canada more specifically Newfoundland right on the East Coast alright alright that's pretty cool so uh so I did you want to talk about styluses you want to talk about some Facebook or you want to talk about something else Oh talk but Stiles asusta it's the current topic all right yeah I could see I would actually like to see Stiles has brought back into the fold for like general features on most phones you're not going to get it on every phone blowjob I mean like um like I forget her name the girl she was just on there um d she said something very very good there she said that you'll always have a reason to use like you'll always find something to use it for like myself on hoping to one day get into architecture or something along those lines and to have have a our phone in your hand uh I mean using your finger it's you could get by but I'm just trying to imagine I'm trying to imagine somebody drawing a building with their finger just like hey look over here over by this squiggle over here that's that's the river just use your imagination we're gonna have this we're gonna have this big crop blob of green and that's gonna be your porch okay so Adam Adam doubt is is about the newest member of our team and if I or anybody else had a probably a little little question about his sanity we got the answer he's insane just like all the rest of us yeah yeah we're set to report he's not a new pretty much pretty much certifiable I thought I actually I thought that's what got me hired so that was part of the requisites all right glad I met that quota for you so all right so uh okay so you are your pro stylist but not for everybody i get that so if what what would you use a stylist for if you you have a phone with a stylist and you're like I've met the stylist I'm going to do something awesome with it what is that um see you can't really pinpoint it down to anyone use but I mean it's like Anton I think yeah Anton said earlier was like the the old-style Stiles's there's not really a place for them anymore I got it all that is just a substitute for your finger but like these new smart statuses are I believe that they're going to be the way to go in terms of Silas in general all right you know oh you're right I did kind of leave that open let me flip it around for you what do you do on your smartphone that you say darn it i wish i had a stylist for this that would be awesome that's an awesome question probably drawing more than anything like you know you just if you just got an idea or something like that and you just want to kind of draw something up right quick just so you wouldn't have to have like a pen paper sure you could kind of do the same kind of thing and you've always have it on yet rather than kinda like where's that piece of paper where's a pen you know even Joe I want some contact info I agree and you know I'm a bit of a musician so um you know what you know so therefore i'm artistic that's at least how i see it i don't know if anybody else does but I draw I draw and I've never used this thing for drawing well I mean for me when I when I have an idea whether it's a musical idea or whatever type of artistic flow it just seems to me like writing is a much more artistic flowy kind of way rather than typing it's like I don't want to pull out my phone and open up SS note and just start typing I don't want to do that I just want to be like oh oh wait wait this isn't done ok just for me ok what one thing that we we've come to a consensus with Michael and tony is you know probably it's not that the stylist is there the problem is the display does not feel like if you're writing on paper wouldn't it be awesome if they brought like a matte sort of display that would feel like if you're scribbling on paper yep ok hi I'm link yeah there you go I think we should just start making phones out of pillows so that way you know it's the perfect material you don't worry about dropping it and you know if you're right on it it feels nice and soft and you can cuddle with it so and if you throw it at the wall and rage break exactly then you know what ex-girlfriends around the world would love that particular feet well you have to stop giving samsung ideas this will turn into the next product with Samsung Galaxy pin or whatever oh the next door the next marketing campaign the ex-girlfriend just throwing things at the wall because the husband didn't want to watch the video they kept thinking they can send me a check for that one so ok uh anything that you want to do a talk about or you want to get your name out there ok uh yeah actually one topic that I was hoping to kind of bounce off you guys I've been heard about like through YouTube and other stuff like that um sapphire displays like instead of Gorilla Glass you would act like the actual glass itself would be this sapphire material which apparently can only be scratched or caught by diamond but in being the victim of a cracked screen the same galaxy nexus with a crack display yeah if the glass and eases is apparently pretty bad for brittleness it's pretty good for like scratch resistance but it when it comes to cracking it's very thin apparently up from the very top yeah but that that problem will not be solved with sapphire glass because that is even more brittle and the internal tension within sapphire is even higher than on Gorilla Glass one two or three so it might protect you against scratches sure but it's just as if not more brittle than galaxies the galaxies o'meara here is really less not my poor thing there it is oh god yeah yeah yeah mine went all the way down all the way down right across the middle here yes and here minus minus oddly they crack the same way I guess yeah they ply this yeah I mean is really come like a screen protector would probably be a bit more of a useful thing for the Sapphire well it depends if if we're still talking about brittleness and shattering know nothing will protect that and probably a bumper case and you'll have to probably eat in those two seconds where you see it full say a quick prayer that it lands on on its sides and on the bumper itself but if you get an impact on the sapphire screen it will it'll break you know you you haven't really seen many people with an HTC phone in a shattered display and the reason why is because well HTC did a better job in building a plastic rim around the design of the phone so that's the problem with samsung phones when they fall up this border is falling directly on the floor because it has little protection on the edges so you know I think that the whole race for the edge to edge no bezel display is sadly going to give us this problem you know that this plays are obviously going to last or are going to be more exposed to shattering I keep on saying this guy's girls don't drop your phones I i've been using phones my entire life and I have never dropped the phone okay if you take the average of me never dropping a phone and brand them probably dropping like every film or tossing it around he tosses it around he tells us it around we have an awesome average but but just take care of your phones and they'll be nice to you and shiny yeah I mean in in the probably you know four or five years and you know great i said i'm i'm a newbie to this whole smartphone thing i mean i've really only been on the scene since 2009 and in that time we've my wife and I have broken each shattered one screen so thank you kyle so ladies and gentlemen my son Kyle now so anyway as I as a saying in the in you know for years you know both being my wife we've shattered one screen each both palm phones actually so um you know what I'm going back I I made this decision the other day I'm going back to the holster you know I know twitter says put the phone in your pocket it's meant to be in your pocket I'm going back to the holster I don't care how geeky and stupid I look because you know what my phone's last so I've got the s3 that I've had since you know what October and there's very a scratch on this thing you know why it doesn't go in my pocket it goes in my holster it goes right on my belt where it should screen in yeah so yeah anyway that'd just be so if I'm still on the broken screen topic ironically when this broke it was in an otterbox and it landed on screen up hey does the best problem okay so here's the but here's the problem the reason why is because the way the way glass works is usually your phone will not crack on its first of all but if the fall is strong enough for that to chip at least one small edge any sort of fall that happens regardless if you have it on a case will shatter the display sadly that's a no the straw that broke the camel's back it's more prone to shatter there where there's a microscopic even invisible scratch so if you compare the the today's glasses with sapphire glass and if you take this theory sapphire is unscramble so the tension there will not be released it is still brittle but there's a possibility that it will not shatter as quickly as gorilla glass which gets tiny little microscopic little scratches where we retention just pops and releases and there it's just broken yeah yeah oh well that's that's the theory no well good Adam any final thoughts or final questions to our invitee Jeremy on I think we've pretty much pretty much covered anything did you want to share your Twitter handle your social media name persona sure here on google closest bottom I didn't set up one of those neat little lot short URLs for Google+ so just shoot it like Twitter handle up Zack Finley 09 okay awesome awesome all right so all right well thanks for thanks for coming on any final thoughts or no just love the love the show i watch it all the time reviews are great and thrown all that good stuff keep up the great work and we love you all right awesome so I'll throw it back to Tony to wrap it all up and send and send it away so this concludes episode number eleven of the bucket now live thank you everybody for joining us for talking to us we're sorry we didn't have the chance to talk to everybody who joined and those who have not managed to join we're trying we're at one hour 50 instead of 130 and now this is not going not going to be a two-hour show because we have other duties I have to party and the guys back in the states have to so we're going to wrap it up here thanks again I was Anton the United managing editor of pocket now and I had the pleasure of being joined today by mr. hi may I Rivera is always a pleasure good seeing you guys and also by mr. Adam doubt styluses role on the cubs are winning it's a good day that is that is a good that is a good way to wrap this up so everybody thank you very much again for joining us have an awesome awesome weekend and we'll see you next week take care bye bye bye nice
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