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Spending the holidays with Megapixels McLaren | #PNWeekly 336

2018-12-14
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people and also parking at the mall it's a nightmare on that day well good thing we caught you here before then we've got some last-minute gift suggestions for the people that you connect the most with and we've got this week's biggest topics in mobile tech as well hey it's Joshua Vergara what's going on everybody and joining me is and let me reiterate as it will be reiterated at the end of this segment Jules wrote all of this the best Jewish mall Santa in Bucks County Pennsylvania Brandon minimun how's it going brother Jules you got it wrong I don't live in Bucks County I live in thank you for recognizing my Judaism and Hanukkah was great thanks guys for asking and again Jules wrote this The Grinch whose ram grew three sizes too big I made of Etta how's it going Bram grew three sizes too big that sounds very lucky not hey everybody how are you and like I said we were gonna reiterate I can guarantee you that this is all Christmas in the script that our producer Jules Lang is willing to write this season so thank goodness for that no more of this even next week even though it's right before Christmas so next episode all right a note before we get started to our live audience watching on YouTube right now we'd love to take your questions about the special phone of the week that Jaime and myself actually have I just have it unboxed mine the oneplus 60 McLaren edition now the best way to do that is through Twitter there you go use it see I stroked the orange the orange tint alright so the best way to give it your questions is through Twitter so use the hashtag P and weekly for that we'll also try to look through the live chat but you know how it goes there is a bit of a delay with the live chat so we may or mean I get your actual questions so again your best bet is Twitter with the hashtag PM weekly all right everybody that we do we actually do have quite a bit to talk about a lot happened let's say in China and I mean I were just talking right before this cast that like we were kind of thinking of trying to get out to a couple of these events obviously wasn't the case but we're gonna start off with one of the little pieces of news that came out from Xiaomi now Xiaomi president Lin bin seems to have gotten into the buzz of the 48 megapixel camera that is starting to appear in a lot of mainly Chinese phones at this particular week now speculation at least among us right now is that the 48 megapixel camera that everyone's talking about is indeed the Sony sensor that was just announced and yet released and it's going to start appearing in a lot of phones and if Xiaomi is president is any indication at least to start through well it looks like this particular 48 megapixel camera is gonna do some awesome stuff so before you make a pixel cameras we are obviously going to talk about Xiaomi in this case who's saying that their phone is going to have this particular sensor it may or may not be you at CES but we're not too sure about that yet so Xiaomi is their Huawei did the same thing with the honor view 20 and it has not only the 48 megapixel camera on the rear it also has the new camera hole punch it's one of the first ones we're seeing combating the notch for sure and then finally we also had vivo doing the same so there a couple of devices out of huawei we'll go through them a little bit and then of course vivos at the end and that one has a really fun feature that I want to talk about a little bit later but first 48 megapixel camera coming from Sony coming in these Chinese phones and potentially in the future how excited are we about a new sensor you mean this Sony the one that makes phones that doesn't include that sensor in their phones yeah pretty much yeah I'm pretty excited I I i think that Huawei has proven throughout 2018 that photography superiority and mobile it does have to do with hardware obviously they made a significant push between hardware and software but I am really excited I honestly can't wait to see what you know if these cameras can pull off your software because the sad part is that not all of these companies have done a really good job when it comes to the software implementation of existing sensors so the question is how is more megapixels over the same software you're gonna do any better that's my question yeah and and not to go too far into the future but we do have one commenter here saying with 48 megapixels on the phone in 2019 think about that for a second 40 it megapixels on something like that's small like it's crazy and that's one sensor they may not even be the multiple cameras I was seeing on the back anyway with 48 megapixels on a phone in 2019 god knows what kind of phone we're going to have in the next decade I am inclined to agree we're packing a lot into smartphones now so 48 megapixels I remember seeing a story about the sexual sensor about how especially for low-light photography it is going to do the usual thing that we see now which is pixel binning so I think it's supposed to be four four megapixel diodes so that would make it like a 12 megapixel low-light photo or a 12 megapixel photo at the end of it all because of the binning but yeah I mean 48 megapixels on the rear Brandon what kind of camera do you typically use and how many megapixels is that thing I use just my phone I think it's gonna be amazing when you get really high resolution cameras along with really good software I mean the stuff you'll be able to do like you know if you look at the super zoom on the pixel 3 which is able to get incredible detail when you zoom in significantly with a relatively low resolution camera if you add to that a high resolution camera do you guys remember some TV shows where like there's a video camera taking a video of like a robber and they zoom in all the way it's super pixelated and then some some guy in the backgrounds like D pixelate and suddenly it looks perfectly enhance the I hands that's that's going to be reality you know 50 megapixel sensors with like the ability to use machine learning to guess what the pixels are around it it's gonna be awesome for zooming into things and getting really great detail I think as a reviewer I'm actually kind of excited about that because for how many years have we been doing 100 crops into the photos from these phones and then it becomes pixelated and we're like well you know the detail may not be there if the details there that's something to be excited about personally it's gonna be hanging yeah it's just right now it's all about pixel thinning so that would be an interesting like we we thought what Qualcomm is doing with imaging with haif where they you know they've they've told everybody like there are companies that are doing ATI F but they're not really taking the full advantage of what the file of what of everything that can be compiled in this file so like you can pretty much take a photo and edit it after the fact just because of hei F just because of these capabilities all this information that's already being stored in the file so I mean what if yes you were using pixel bidding to create a 10 megapixel shot but what if we can eventually say you know what no I don't want it 10 megapixel I want a 48 megapixel shot from that photo that's already taken and then I could zoom into it losslessly I mean that would be great yeah and I think I think that there should be I'm you know bringing up the buzzword I know everyone's sick of certain buzz words like 5g and AI which is what I'm going to bring up depending on the actual because a lot of these Chinese companies are we're looking at honor Huawei and Xiaomi and also vivo but the the first three that I mentioned they've done a lot of work in AI photography to make it so that the camera app is able to figure out what it's looking at that way it can change the settings accordingly so if you have like a landscape in broad daylight maybe a 48 megapixel photo is going to be the thing and then when you're in low light the bidding occurs so I could see that kind of being the case you say here's a super fun fact what resolution do you think a camera needs to be to equal the ability of the human eye to see detail just a guess oh my god no no oh it's it's massive it was massive so two things about the human eye is not just the photo quality obviously stabilization there have you have you know it's for me it's one of the most fascinating things when you walk do you notice your vision doing this you don't sure you don't I mean for me it's just wow the human eye is such a fantastic you know creation seriously I mean to try to mimic that is insane yeah Jules called me out he knew where my brain while it was like no not PPI joshi's megapixels release talent what a counter one of our one of our commenters and we can get all of these phones that have the 48 megapixel we will do a comparison among all of them and try to get a account of bear fine let's do it I'm down all right so the other piece of news from a couple of these from one of these phones in particular so we're looking at honor by the way if my camera goes out you'll still hear my audio so I'm gonna do a little bit of sleuthing over here the the honor is introducing that hole-punch front-facing camera so you got a tiny little hole at what was the millimeter do I think it was like oh there I go four point five millimeters so you have a four point five millimeter hole on the front in a very corner no more knotch but you've got this tiny little hole that might it would that be annoying to you in the way that the notch has been cutting into your content how do you feel about the hole punch now that's a period the question is what companies are planning to do with the user interface like I feel that like the essential phone design where that punch hole in the mid was you know not it didn't affect notifications in any way we'll always student it good job with the May 20 Pro this Google is not doing the best job with a pixel 3 Excel so it's just how our apps going to interact with that punch hole and can we please just all define where like one spot because like you know for the average person that's gonna have two phones or a phone a year that's fine you know or a phone every two years that's fine but can you imagine trying to get used to like you're reviewing a phone you're used to the camera in the center but now it's on the left but now it's in the damn right oh shoot it's at the bottom like it or no there's no camera now it's in the back layout like it is like so I I love the experimentation don't get me wrong I feel that we needed this experimentation and we have to thank vivo for that for that you know motorized camera which pretty much like launched a trend and they're just following up with more more and more ideas you wouldn't you weren't totally wrong by saying vivo but it was Oppo right wasn't open the motorized oh no no right vivo the next you're not even thinking of the elbow fine tech find exothermic okay yeah you're right Brandon any thoughts on the hole punch you wouldn't I think it actually looks really really good and I don't think you would have to do much to the UI to reflow the content around it unless unless it was hiding something like a notification then you'd have to do something if there was like a little blank where an icon would be you'd have to move that icon to the right but otherwise I don't see why it can't just be on the screen somewhere without having to change the UI right yeah I agree with that like it will just be there and maybe some applications would take advantage of the fact that that tiny bit is cut out but every other app it's just gonna be there and holstein are just yeah it's gonna be there and then hopefully they'll just have elements to move around it if needed because for example where it is in this phone right now in the in the honor I kind of wonder it's not going to cut into the back button on the top left you know what I mean like yeah yeah but you have a back button in Android to begin with but yeah up there too it's just the gannets for me it's it's all about the implementation and just like it's funny whenever I read comments that are like hey dude whatever when are you gonna make 18 by 9 video and I'm like not now not now at all because watching 18 by 9 video on a pixel 3 Excel is an effing nightmare like you you get cut outs on on a certain corner and then you've got the knotch taking over like 50% of the video and you've got the chin on the other end and it just and you can't there's no way to zoom in or out of that like whereas 16 by 9 can still cover the knotch and you don't have to put up with that part of that thing affecting your user interface and so imagine right now that we've got punch holes coming over and then the punch hole is gonna be in different parts of the video and we as creators can't predict where that's gonna be so the best thing is to just go 16 by 9 for now until you know something is gonna be like this is gonna be the standard or whatever and then sure you won't have to worry about oh shoot like the portion of the video that I wanted to see is being covered by this or that like you know whenever we frame things we try to frame things in a useful in a useful way so it's not like that everything that's in the corners doesn't really matter yeah fair enough it's it's going to be like it doesn't it doesn't matter I may because it's going to be such a small percentage of the entire video it's gonna be like 2% of the pixels on your screen there will be a whole so but what do i matter what if you have a phone that has more than one camera on the front so imagine imagine going to the movies and having to put up with this tall guy sitting in front of you with head covering one corner of the movie how does that feel ok fair for the knotch but this hole punch is more like there's a aberration on the actual like screen which I which is something that you just sort of understand is there sometimes but when someone stands up that's a much that's what you hate I hope you agree with that like I love the approach of televisions like the ultra-thin televisions have this like protrusion where the cameras at the top which for me the mechanized system if it wasn't for the fact that you can water water resists these phones but for me that's like the perfect thing because you don't want anything getting in between you and your content that's just the way it is why I don't I don't feel that it's the best solution and there goes Josh's camera it's just my camera you can still hear me yeah I don't know man like for me it's it's not the best idea to have something punch a hole in your content like I get it that you don't always watch video Brandon but that you again that's one of the main reasons why for me 16 by 9 is the way to stay for now until that is like standardized in a way yeah I think I think that I think that is pretty so what would you want the whole punch then front and center would Lenovo bring back the ThinkPad and put it right in the middle and make it read I think I feel that if technology is not there I'm not saying that this I mean this is the Samsung Galaxy approach bad I mean think about it it's the Samsung Galaxy approach bad where you have minor bezels and these minor bezels have you know they have the camera they have the speakers we get dual speakers because of that I don't feel that there's anything wrong with that approach hmm okay fair enough I do want I want to make sure we cover one last thing before we move on to our next group of topics let's say VEVO with this ring light on the back along on top of a completely secondary display I like that approach I kind of do too I have to admit cameron's are crap really what's crab selfie cameras are crap oh yeah like it doesn't matter if you've got the 24 megapixel shooter or the dual cameras from the pixel or 24 on Huawei's or it doesn't matter selfie camera really bad yeah and so like if I could have the primary camera and have a way to see if it's useful I don't think it's I know that it's a nightmare to have two screens which the battery in this and that I get it but I think I think that if they're like oh code did it once with that sliding mechanism for you to be able on the Oppo n1 and n3 for you to be able to use the primary cameras the only problem is the primary camera on that phone was terrible but the terrible yes yeah but the idea was great so that for me is the best thing where you get off imagine the 48 megapixel the 40 megapixel camera on the May 20 Pro to serve as the primary imagine that like the level of bokeh that you get from that camera because of the size of the sensor is crazy it's great so I like it I like that idea I love the like I mean can't just I think the ring light is a wonderful idea and I love how its implemented because it's exactly how you would implement it in a real camera where the lights literally around whatever lens you're using or whatever cents are using I don't know the larious just imagine what it would be like vlogging with this that's always where my mind goes very focused yes exactly and then people has a beauty mode on top of this ring light so like you're you're you're you're kind of creating the perfect phone for that market because in Asia and China like beauty modes are actually really important so now you have good lighting for if you want to solve the problem of selfie cameras being poor and you want to take advantage of the rear camera what you need to do is you can go on Amazon I think dbrand slick wraps might have this you get a sticker that's a mirror finish you put it on the back of your device and then you can you can just use the rear camera all the time because you have the camera the kid the mirror finish yeah the problem is there's no guarantees so the biggest problem when you set a camera a primary shooter you have to remember that's a 27 millimeter camera equivalent and so if you're too close to it it has trouble focusing and so there's no guarantee that you're in focus with a mirror that's the problem this is true also the other thing you can do is just have a wide angle on the back that you trigger that turn it around you're pretty certain you're in the shot yeah because it's it's it's it's standard like there's no autofocus on that all right so while we move onto a topic that came up actually right before we started our show one other thing one other phone that Jaime is playing with that I have yet to unbox also is the ROG phone when you have so many phones that you can't even and pull them out of the box I can I'm working on that I'm working on the meat when you Pro right now and the yeah I just need to get through them one by one I realize I'm terrible at multitasking but in any case speaking of the ROG phone that is in Jaime's hands right now so Jaime is actually kind of into this phone first of all but apparently a soos is very into this phone as well because presidency Oh Jerri Shem is gonna step down at the end of the month to be replaced by two CEOs who are being promoted from within and their plan is to essentially make the ROG phone more or less the focus of their mobile strategy and kind of bring the zenfone a little bit to this to the wayside so Zen phones you were mentioning before we started Jaime they don't sell particularly well could the ROG phone make up for all of that well the thing about it is like from this if you remember we were right now a tech summit I had no idea that there were such high demand for gaming phones like you know when Razer came up with the market I was like okay fine you know it's a gaming company they're making a gaming phone and now I had no idea like I get it I'm I get it that a lot of this like money involved this candy crush and you know certain of these games that aren't just but I love it it's it's a dead giveaway that a person is not a total mobile gamer when their first thought is candy crush right the thing about it is a lot of this gaming market has to do with games that aren't necessarily high-powered first-person shooter games because these are not necessarily great on phones the thing about it is for these to get really good on PCs pcs had to get good for these to get really good on gaming consoles gaming consoles had to get good yeah so I feel though this is like what was first the chicken or the egg we need the hardware and so I feel that if a sous is not succeeding in making phones in general why not figure out a niche they're already good at when it comes to when it comes to the PC and just bring that knowledge into a gaming phone and I feel that their implementation of his ROG phone is frickin great Mike I really Michael in Oh Chad says Jaime just has to get good at the game dude you and I man Mario won let's see who wins great hey you know what super smash brothers just came out we should told you that oh man it's already downloading back there I'm just at a third-world country right now it's gonna take about two days for that thing to download but I really want to play that thing now you guys do you guys know anyone in your life that is a hardcore gamer because I look at the ROG phone with it that attachment that lets it like oh really like he plays for like hours the two people that I know Quan Bagnall and Sam Blake one bag nail could be on his phone playing all day and I'm like he is passionate about that like Quan is really good about that and Sam is the other guy he's been doing a lot of gaming videos for Spanish channel for those of you if you guys want gaming videos in English like he's totally down to do them in English and that's the reason I'm like alright dude you're gonna make this ROG phone review in English in Spanish first and then I'm gonna do the spat the English review but hey if you guys want to see content from him in English I mean this could even be his first review as well he is really stoked about giving it a try oh sure yeah it's an exciting phone there's a lot offered and in the box it actually comes with the cooler yeah yeah or the fan I should say and yeah there's I'm sure I'm not the biggest gamer the cooler but Zen phones over ROG or rather ROG over Zen from I don't know I know mine they used to make a ton of Zen phones right they weren't really great phones like the zenfone 5 Z they had a great camera it looked good but it looked like a me-too phone it look like an iPhone you know mixed with an Android phone and for me that's that's the thing man whereas this is full originality this is something where wear shoes can say we did this our way I mean think about it like a fully overclocked snapdragon 85 here you've got the cooler to provide you know all you need now is more accessories like a better controller this and that but because for me it's that like and by the way I just received an email to try out that razor phone the controller so that that is for me what's missing me that's what's missing but in the case of this as soos phone like what things don't I like about the razor phone come on man no headphone jack you've even got two USB C ports here two USB ports on this phone it's amazing efficient to a head to a great display I haven't tried the camera yet the fingerprint scanners not really good but like come on man and this phone doesn't really look like something that came out of I don't know from Jurassic Park or something it's almost like a cyberpunk exact Shawn Velez says just invest more in the zenfone line you know because and I kind of see where he's coming from with this because the auto G phone is a premium high-end device and a lot of the zenfone line was supposed to be affordable good point so I do kind of think that that's that's kind of the case as far as price goes on all of these phones our G phones gonna be kind of up there but as a sort of rough segue into our next topic the price of an upcoming phone that you might be excited for is gonna be a little bit exorbitant I feel like oneplus okay I'm gonna do this Jaime why don't you recount real quick as my camera goes out I've got to move to a webcam because the batteries from my GH 5 were just not charged I'm sorry guys while I'm changing to a webcam can you recount hi mate the the the announcement that Pete loud did on stage back at Tech Summit okay because that is what our next topic is on is this potential 1 + 5 g phone that is actually not going to be the next flagship phone it's gonna be separate to it apparently yeah alright so there was a little bit of a fun thing that happened with that announcement so how about you go and recount that while I switch my cameras do it do it no for me I guess I was like I didn't expect people out to be there I didn't expect like that was a pleasant surprise I do know that Qualcomm and oneplus have been collaborating since day one from oneplus I mean this was the first company to big bring flagship specs into you know a segment that was unheard of before when it came to the price point and so you know he just came on stage and told everybody about you know just a commitment through to 5g that oneplus is going to be like they were the they announced a few things that I was a little confused about I don't know if you can confirm this jewels because you you did you know part of the part of the backend with the whole press releases but he was like this is gonna be the first phone with the kharkom Snapdragon 855 he said that and I was like really the first cuz in the timeline the 855 I was assuming was going to be you know early February or something like that where Samsung usually launched it launches and then we've got in it one plus is usually in April that was the first thing and then the second thing was that they were gonna be that they are bringing a 5g phone that they were gonna be the first 5g phone I believe in Europe for EE was that was it the carrier I believe and so like it for me those are bold things like usually you would expect you know you get flagship specs on a oneplus but obviously because of the difficulty in the price point it's very hard for oneplus to be the first at things and so you know usually it's when when chipsets are on their way you know and their mid point where it makes sense for them to get a better deal for these chips and being able to acquire them and so that plus the fact that they're making a 5g phone he was clear in a separate interview I believe it was Musashi Siegen he did mention that he couldn't there was no guarantee that this was going to be an inexpensive phone that it couldn't because of 5g connectivity obviously so we're assuming that you know that the 855 doesn't necessarily doesn't have 5 G's so the Snapdragon 85 brings the X 24 modem so this is two gigabit LTE but if you connect the X 50 modem you will have the capability so it could be that we will be getting early next year a one plus seven I would say with a Snapdragon 855 not necessarily 5g capable and then later have a phone that's 5g probably the T variants that would include it I'm thinking what do you remember Josh I see your back yeah well I'm still changing a couple of things here sorry yeah the from what I remember like there was lot there's a little bit of hubbub around the whole fact that up on stage it literally said that that phone was gonna be the first 855 and it's clearly not gonna be the case and Jules is uh in the booth right now telling us that it was chalked up to an interpretation error which that's true he was he was up there speaking in Chinese and everybody but the thin but then aside from that it was she sprawled on the slide behind that it was gonna be an 855 first which everyone kind of scrambled them was like holy crap the the one plus is one plus is really like pushing really well for this but as far as the 5g phone goes apparently and one thing that was cool about tech summit is that there are so many people coming out the woodwork to say they support 5g all these carriers especially EE out of the UK like it was great to see that now whether or not the 5g modem is going to be a part of the flagship one plus that remains to be seen but apparently they're gonna make a whole different whole different phone that because of the cost that it takes to actually create what is inside of that and everything that goes around it to make it 5g capable it could be up to three hundred dollars more yeah I mean think about it you need for RF on antennas on each on each side to be able to provide the millimeter wave connectivity in addition to the X 50 modem which is a separate chip that would need to provide the connectivity for sub six so you know it's it's a lot of extra hardware on its own yes as Sam says might be doing the same thing yeah having a separate phone for 5g yeah and and so that's I you know for me probably one of the interest most interesting takeaways from tech summit was the fact that we have heard companies say building millimeter wave into a phone is impossible and so Qualcomm just proved that it is possible but obviously there are some there are some tricks that have to be done in the hardware for this to be possible like pretty much having cutouts on every corner and I'm just waiting for jerry-rigged everything's a durability test of these phones for this RF for these RF antennas to be able to capture the millimeter wave and not just sub 6 which I do know that other companies are gonna do 5g but only sub 6 not the millimeter wave yeah it there's so much there's and then again I bet you a lot of people in our chat or like oh this 5g talk again I mean it is it's it is gonna be the next wave and what is so crazy is that companies have to work around all of the things that are needed for 5g to happen which means different devices so you kind of have to let us know in the in Twitter or what or in the chatter in the Twitter hashtag P and weekly would you pick a 5g phone over the flagship phone the more conventional every year phone just to be at the bleeding edge because we don't even know what they're going to put in the 5g phones if they are separate from the flagship if they're going to be anything and also right here I can't pronounce the name nephews Fuad I hopefully I said that right oneplus will not get another excuse for a hiking for hiking their price 5g might be the only excuse I've had to be honest but it's so the price that they're saying is $700 yeah even so $700 is so far less it's still $200 less than every flagship yeah that's true okay well enough times you talk let's get to a phone that actually happened as really exciting the one +60 McLaren Edition okay I'm looking at a beautiful photo that was taken of it already I bet this was here right Jaime so man like mirror black finish with the McLaren logo at the bottom a little bit of carbon fiber underneath as far as the pattern goes and then that orange dance but that's not all that has changed now go for it so alright so the main thing that's changed is it's got 10 gigabytes of RAM now what you feel like that is absolutely necessary for a smartphone that's up to your preferences but the other thing that has been getting the headlines is its warp charging I have to mention this while charging is one crazy new addition to this have you used the warp charging on yeah but I just I don't I don't have the time to notice how quickly it charges because by the time I'm back it's already charged like like no it's it's like if Luke from Oppo was great which was pretty much the first company that came up with this investment and then that's charging like this is being able to do the same thing so there are a couple of benefits to warp the first one is obviously being able to charge your phone for a full day like a full day of use which one Plus is calling 50 percent of battery which I have proven 50 percent on a1 plus it's just fine ever since the five T battery life on one plus devices is that great so yeah fifty percent of battery in 20 minutes is I think that's even can servitude I think that that's very conservative the phone charges faster but the cool part is that you you know usually when you're when you're charging a phone the phone heats up and so that overheating doesn't allow that like the charger will sense that the phone is overheating because you're using it and therefore will slow down the charge whereas the one-plus approaches there are more connectors and therefore it will it has more contact points to provide power to the battery and so therefore the thumb doesn't heat up while they're charging it which for me is a major benefit when compared to the last a technology that they had and not only does the charge speed stay up but the phone which is cooler doesn't throttle like yes so it doesn't throttle either the charging or the phone while you're using it so during those 20 minutes you can literally be topping your phone off out of need and use your phone and that's no problem whatsoever you know so for me this is one of those reasons where a lot of people are like complaining oh yeah but the phone doesn't have wireless charging I get it I like wireless charging now particularly with the pixel stand that's really cool but to be honest with you if I don't have to worry about charging my damn phone that's even better and when I do have to charge my damn phone to know that all I'll have to do is twenty to thirty minutes and then just forget about it and for me that's even better and you know that makes a lot of sense I was there when one of our friends David Kogen was unboxing his and he got a little bit I wasn't David Coker was a David Amell it might have a David Amell he was a he was like I want to get this phone set up I'm so excited to use it but it's low on battery and the rest of us in the room were like just plug it in for a few it was like all right there you go so he plugged it in and in like 10 minutes he was like I have enough for the rest of the day it's awesome fast charging is like in it is it is a requirement now over smartphone lives I feel like and it's great that it's becoming more and more prevalent Warp charging is a new way it's too bad we can't call it - charging anymore I kind of like that name but warp charging fine let's do it by the way we're charging is faster than - charge but what does I mean but Jaime was talking about but the heat dissipation was present - in - charge where it would put the heat in the brick and not in the itself exactly yeah according to Jules it's 20 Watts versus 30 roxtor yeah which a lot of people are like yeah but Huawei has supercharged for 40 watts I think about is this technology has more contact points between more contacts point feeding the batteries so that's the reason why it's it's not just fast more wattage but it's more distribution and that's why it's faster yeah definitely okay oh by the way one quick thing as Jules has also said xda-developers has a comprehensive story on warp charge 30 live right now so make sure you check that out head over the XDA they're always doing some great stuff over there okay and just before we move away for those of you considering 10 gigabytes of ram to be overkill project boost on oneplus devices the fact that it's not just fast it's not just you have more multitasking because you have more RAM but you also have the advantage of of the you project boost will use Ram the leftover RAM to store portions of apps that you use constantly and so it's not just that the app will remain there but also it'll remain faster as well you're asking is it a good upgrade from the oneplus X alright so for me honestly with the oneplus 16 the standard one I was like no I really liked my red one plus 6 with a headphone jack I really loved it but man this McLaurin looks really nice it looks really nice it performs really nice I love the packaging like for was it well what is it $6.99 oh I got it here so for $6.99 you get all this like you get the case you get the McLaren that signature carbon fiber or black you get that booklet it's like you remember the old days when you used to unbox CDs and there was this like experience inside there were even CDs where they were like pop up and bring like different things vertically like that's how this feels so for less than the price of a standard flagship you get pretty much one of the fastest phones man like that's the way I see it sir eyes true I'm totally down for this version of the 60 in pass like you know as I said in my review it's a great phone but if you have it not a one plus six I wouldn't upgrade I I wouldn't so do you feel that the difference between the eight gigs and the ten gigs of ram from the sixty to the sixteen mclaren actually make a difference on day to day usage well the thing about it is you have to you have to consider the fact that it's not just in day to day usage think about 2019 most people can't buy a phone each year man so the more powerful your phone is today the more future proof it is for as long as you want to carry it for right so if you you know instead of buying like right now how much is a pixel 3xl out of 789 if I remember correctly no it's 899 Oh 899 899 for the 60/40 XL yeah yeah pixel 3 Excel is okay and all right so that's a lot of money or four gigs of RAM and wait for gigs of RAM and 64 gigs of storage whereas you get 10 gigs of ram and 256 gigs of storage dual-sim capabilities I mean come on also in the Box in the pixel 3 isn't port of RAM management so you got that to what you know what you're absolutely right there's poor RAM management apparently ok so one of the but one of the best examples on that on the excel I will say play music like I always do I always have something playing in the background and then open up the camera the music will stop yeah that has happened not every time that has happened yeah all right so we have one more story also I apologize to you Brandon if we're not able to get you in our final segment because I know you might have to get out of here in a few but I do think we have to talk a little bit about this apparently my my fair state of California is out of its mind because because tax revenue from service providers in particular and yes we have Silicon Valley here and they don't really pay as many taxes that's probably a lot of people wish that they did because of that California is actually looking to tax the SMS or our CES capabilities of a phone carrier there might be a text haxe oh but you know you know what California you're just in time welcome to 2009 man whatsapp a facebook Messenger like just don't use SMS and that's it you know it's funny I just got my project fly or rather Google fired now that it's Google Phi I got a fresh sim because my old one for some reason crapped out and I threw it into the Huawei I started I started texting like like crazy on that thing I was happy to use SMS again for some reason because Android messages as an application is kind of good and then this happens yeah I I I personally can't really understand like its what it is one of those things where if if you if you're gonna pay more for texting and what's funny is we have unlimited texting now we used to pay for like what there would like limits 500 texts 800 text thousand texts you're like 10 cents per remember exactly yeah or like nights and weekends we can keep it off for free yeah so there might actually be a little bit more of the tax on text and it's not necessarily now this is a thing it may or may not be and also Jules did say it's a proposal at this point but another thing another thing to keep in mind it's not necessarily a it's not necessarily a cost that's going to be harbored on to the user per se directly it's on the service providers but because they have to pay more than phone plants could rise in price for them to make overhead so that sucks I hope it doesn't go through do any other states do this another of you guys areas texts this kind of stuff do they orally no not New York no New York Pennsylvania now FCC says state authorities can do this now that's okay fair enough Jules thank you for that well yeah I just we just wanted to put that out there I obviously I rep LA to the death and I'm Californian all of my life this is kind of weird and I wonder where it's gonna go yeah alright so from there we're gonna go ahead and actually let me just double check on one last thing all right yeah so that'll do it for our first segment we're gonna wanted to take a really quick break all right here we go the new pocket my weekly comes to you with support of cos theta by neutron and today I want to talk to you about casita by Lutron smart lighting control brought to you by Neutron pioneers and smart home technology with casita you can schedule your lights to come on at dusk so your family always comes back to a well at home instead of switching out all of your bulbs for smart ones or slapping on bulky smart plugs why not save yourself 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of here in a few I do want to say we have a main segment a little bit later today where we talk about the kinds of gifts that we would recommend to our viewers and listeners if you haven't already gotten a gift for maybe the tech lover in your life the connected individual in your life Brandon you can do a check-in you could talk about your gift you could do all of the above before you get out of here why don't we go ahead and start with that yeah I'll talk about the gift um as jules emailed about this several hours ago said guys think about a gift and for me it was for me it was so easy it's a gift that I gave to my in-laws and they loved it so much and that's a good litmus test because my in-laws aren't that technically inclined they don't care about tech like at all and that thing is a either a Amazon echo or a Google home if if it's and if you get the dot or the many they're so inexpensive $30 and if they're people if people just spend a little bit of time embracing them into their life it's amazing and every week I feel like I come on in podcast and I talk about how much I'm in love with my you know echo and Google home because I use them in so many ways but I think for the average person for mom and dad and even grandma you know these $30.00 hockey pucks are incredible that's my my gift idea and with that I'm going to jump off and say Happy Hanukkah and see you guys later all right so we do so we wanted to make sure we got Brandon was a gift in in before he left but during our check-in we do have a couple of things I wanted to talk about just sort of on the side just have some fun with it first of all Jules if there are any other questions about the one plus six to declare and go ahead and throw those into our chat and we'll answer them but Jaime you wanted to talk about something very controversial today the least liked the most disliked of video oh my god oh my god I'm like really only people that have not made a video about YouTube's rewind there's a lot to unpack about YouTube rewind and I don't think we're going to get into any of like the YouTube politics or any of the actual things but it's it's so interesting that this this is loo this is the worst it's ever been it's literally the most disliked video of all time but it's the most disliked video of all time it reminds me of that Friday music video from Rebecca Black like it was funny because that year that you know what a Friday came back Rebecca Black was the host of the real was opposed the rewind I get it I know it was it was like I guess it was like one of YouTube's best viral videos at its time and the problems rewind it's just that like even Marquez made his own video and then cased he made his video where they were talking about like this is sadly clearly a way for YouTube to please advertisers and it's just sad because like I feel that seriously we can't forget our community like it doesn't work that way like no way like even even when we do sponsored content like we try like we even tell companies like sure like listen we have no problem in doing sponsored if you want us to review your product or this we're just not gonna sponsor the review we can't because we can't tell the audience you know it's just unethical for me to tell people my opinion of a product if you're paying me to say it but you can sponsor the part of the parking out daily all you want but you have to understand at the moment that I review your product I will say everything about this phone if you're confident that your product is great then fine but I'm not obligated to talk anything beautiful about your phone if it sucks yeah so let's just be clear about that you can sponsor the daily all you want and you've got you've got a segment for that or the weekly yeah opinions are never paid for exactly but then you know you get the rewind where the whole idea is to recap on the best videos of the year obviously a lot of these were controversial and so none of these are included a lot of good creators are not included in something like YouTube what's wrong with these I mean come on commute the community made you and it's the community that makes you appealing to advertisers the other way around what analyzers looks for you because of the size of your community not because your YouTube yeah and Jules even said here if you want to pay for the news you have to pay for the good and the bad news like it's it's all in one thing I feel like okay so YouTube or Google in Google as YouTube I should say they have this whole thing of like compartmentalizing the actual content on the platform why not have a rewind for each section like a rewind for music a rewind for tech a rewind for vlogs that way there might be more representation in each of the categories and that allows you to push it towards the advertisers who want to have ads on those types of content if they want to be specific about where they want their ads to be they can just look at the the tech rewind or the music rewind or the late-night show rewind which end up not even being youtubers it's gonna be all actual celebrity was a big problem a lot of people were getting up said that like the video started out with Will Smith for example like he's technically a youtuber now but he's still a massive celebrity he's not really of YouTube he's not home who channel's freaking awesome that way yeah he's not like he's great oh my goodness a better idea a youtube fast-forward I just dope you in video wasteland that we are one of our questions on Twitter or rather just a statement on Twitter I'm gonna wait on a 5g device because I know my city won't get it when it launches that's true I also upgraded frequently with my carrier so I can wait that's very true as well on stage at the tech summit people the carriers were actually showing what cities they were going to support off the bat and I remember getting a tweet from somebody that said oh great I live like 30 miles away from that one city and Britain but my city is not gonna get it so like you're close but that's so not quite there I'm sure this country is not gonna get it into like 2029 or something like that maybe so at least our 4G LTE is better than in the United States I'll tell you that much there you go and that's the more ubiquitous one so there's some emphasis to that as well so if I'm going to uh it's like going to Seoul Korea or to Hong Kong and the 4G is it's incredible out there yeah I remember uploading videos willy-nilly in my hotel room and in Seoul it was amazing all right so Christmas Christmas coming up it looks like you got some I'm not sure if the decor behind you was supposed to be Christmas themed or anything like that but it kind of seems a little festive I just got a really good friend that's a girl to do the decoration and she kind of overdid it but is going on and you know what I was mentioning to a couple of our friends while we were in Hawaii for tech summit like there's something kind of odd about being in a really cool and chill place like Maui where it's always hot and humid that gets me in the mood for Christmas yeah it's it's kind of funny because I'm really happy by the time I leave Maui and I'm ready for the holidays to come through of course for you and me Jaime getting back ready for the holidays means getting the flu in a way yeah break was a great back for bathroom break for me like I am like I'm really sick it's bad like out and everything that's why I'm in my home right now I'm in my family home right now I was like you know what I can't even like drive to my office right now I'm gonna do it later when I get the strength to but when I woke up this morning I was like T I need everything right now it's the holidays blah blah um okay so we're gonna go ahead and Jules is I'm the only one in 30-degree weather who's not sick well I mean I you have a great career in a really dry area to that to brighness helps yeah okay so Christmas coming up have you got your Christmas shopping done ah yeah you know the kids usually like do all good always knows what he wants you know and it's always either PlayStation related or stuff like that or clothing he's really into clothing and then my kids all they want is a Nintendo switch stuff nice but what are you talking about for like for like the tech gifts or like in general like essentials I don't think oh my god simply so uh like I'd like Brandon took the idea off my mind when it came to like a really good gift for Christmas dude Amazon products are killing it like I've been trying an echo from the Taiwan trip like I got a I got a Amazon echo and I didn't think it was gonna work here and I'll do it as it actually does work fully I can connect it to all my accounts just fine I have an Amazon Prime account in the United States and it works just fine dude like I'm really impressed with Amazon products from the Kindle is probably one of my favorite gadgets ever like ever I really love using a Kindle and then you can find Kindles that are really inexpensive the Amazon echo is really inexpensive another thing that I'm trying but it's in the other room is the Google home hub oh so it's not the perfect product it's thought that a little room to grow in the user interface because it doesn't behave like anything like it's got its own I tell the left user interface it's kind of weird but just the whole idea like I like whenever I turn off the lights in my bedroom and it just dims dead into this like night clock really well and the alarm is like really subtle and then I can ask it for a ton of things and I like that I could you know I can start playing a video in youtube and then I could just put my phone to charge and it throws the video into the home hub like these are really good products obviously on the higher end like I like I would not recommend devices like a humble home because the home hub is pretty much almost the same price and you get a lot more functionality so I would gather go for the Google home mini or the Google home hub or in the case of the Amazon echo I've never tried like the higher at like the higher end ho echo but the echo dot is just it sounds so good like it literally sounds well enough through this whole living room in the apartment you know so for me it's like it's a really great gift Amazon products are like killer everything else is too expensive I would never recommend a flagship phone right now they're too crazy expensive probably the nine point seven inch iPad which is three hundred and fifty bucks you weren't in love with that thing yeah you're in love with that thing and no we're filming right yeah yeah no my my iPad pro but they had the iPad pro that's the thing man it's just I love tablets like for me tablets are just so convenient and so like if if you don't need a tablet you don't need a SmartWatch but these are the things that are really cool to have um and so like for 300 something bucks if you want to like really impress somebody that's a good gift but I would again an echo dot is like a good enough gift for 30 bucks man I would have it in every room yeah yeah the only reason why the tablet market grew this year I know cuz I bought what last year because I was like what the iPad pro cost what no I'm not gonna buy it I was actually a test I would actually asked like over the last week what kind of trends people could look forward to in 2019 that they should like buy into right now so that they're kind of on the bleeding edge and like the first thing that came into my head because we were just out of Hawaii I was like 5g like it's a 5g but never buy with the thing that I was actually thinking about was yeah voice assistance it is a great time to get into it because it could be that that's all most of your gateway drug is the is the home hub or the home mini or the echo dot or anything like that because it is your first foray into the smart home world and Lord knows I go on slick deals net like all the time and there are always smart plugs and smart switches that are on sale yeah and in like Brandon said if you take a little bit of time to just learn how that thing kind of works then you can easily just say okay gee or whatever turn on my light like even my light up here this is a lifx bulb right now and I use it not only to like point it at my bed to wake me up in the morning which has been failing lately but I also control it using the home mini which is over there my TV is so like there's a certain level of of the eco system that you can get into you don't have to dive too far into it you know you can wade into it stay in your comfort zone just do smart switches smart bulbs all that stuff yeah cuz I'm smart bulbs are expensive that's the problem yeah three bucks for one one well no I highly recommend either life X or the casa by tp-link those two are actually fairly affordable and I bet you they're gonna be on sale a lot during this holiday season speaking of the holiday season once again PocketNow actually has a holiday shopping guide so make sure you check that out we have it linked in well we'll have it in the show notes or links down below in the YouTube video sérgio in our chat apparently agrees with you Jaime tablets are very convenient like for taking pictures in public come on man follow my review points do not take photos with your tablet how dare you it's it's the dead giveaway when you're traveling it's like oh that's someone's grandma oh oh my god like right now that we were in Taipei yeah buddy everybody age 50 and higher this is the tablet and they were all using it to take photos with it everybody I was like wow alright now I understand why fab exist yeah I get it like yeah I would actually think okay I have a few different categories for the types of users or gifts that I would recommend like there's there's there's media consumption there's gaming and then this creation now the creation one you've seen you talked about before and you've seen me use hi me our jewels as well actually this bad boy right here this clip-on lens now I know a lot of people out there or scoffing right now but take it from not only me but also some of our friends in the tech industry who are like I will try that out too this is the best thing that you can get for photos on a front facing camera like if you want to make a wide-angle on a rear camera I mean that's one thing but when you're doing like selfies or IG stories or you just want to say something and have more of the background and just a better view this this particular click on lens Zenvo it makes it a point four five field of view than is already in the front-facing camera yeah I've used this so many times if you follow me on IG stories there's a lot of times when I'm actually using this or the moment or the moment lenses it's kinda like Yolo clip multipel I love this approach from although clip where it's like very easily snap in and snap out different lenses yeah I just it's in the other room but it's I like it cuz it works on pretty much any smartphone mm-hmm yeah yeah very and primary and standard it's really cool yeah I do her I do recommend those it's just those lenses aren't cheap dude like it not cheap from the rights perspective not just that like when you grab them they are not light yeah they're not this thing is this this is big like you could see this but the glass in here is actually pretty good quality it may not be on the quality of like a moment lens but then again very few are but yeah I mean this is only like 30 it's only like 20 bucks twenty thirty dollars and you know for anybody that looks at the ratings more than anything else this is the highest rated one on Amazon so just keep that in mind because because there's also another feature where you can unscrew this larger umbrella part up here and it becomes a macro lens so it's macro and wide so you can have some fun with that both of those so that's for the Creator I would actually say it's a very cheap one you can throw it into even a white elephant or a gift exchange if you want and someone will scoop that thing up I use a book chromecast why elephant exchanges and people would like fight over them for people who like their audio now I'm using the oneplus bullets USBC that's actually where I'm using for the microphone right now so if you've been looking for like a little bit of a review of it like you're listening to it right now USBC headphones fine USBC is like the the standard now there's no headphone jacks blah blah blah well then why not just dive into bluetooth I will always always always recommend these I the Jabra yeah it lead 65 minor charging there on the higher right they are oh my god so when people ask me every time that I'm running what are the headphones that I'm using Java elite 65 T active and whenever I'm not running and whenever I'm not running it's the Jabra elite 65 T those are my favorite headphones hands down oh the earrin em twos are also fabulous but these Jabra is it's just like if you're gonna go over 200 bucks uh you know you're the audio quality has to be great and the thing about Jabra is you know they are a multiple they're a multi company with resound and resound specif their specializes in hearing aids and so their technology in audio quality and noise cancellation is top-notch man yeah top-notch like whenever I'm running I'm like guys don't talk to me I'm not hearing you like and I always forget how to activate the ambient display mode which is available but I always forget and do it if I don't turn that on you can't hear anything and it sounds fantastic mm-hmm yeah absolutely love those if you want something cheaper that are not truly Wireless and if you're okay with that the one plus bullets Wireless are pretty fantastic as well and it seems like they updated it so when the oneplus 16 was announced they gave us the oneplus oh well I happen to love my ear buds with ambient display sorry whatever ambient ambient noise yeah I didn't even care [Laughter] but yeah the one plus bullets Wireless the ones that go around your neck they're a little bit like the the beats wireless ones those are only like I think they're only $60 and yes 50 $99.99 they're good yeah those aren't quite good as well and sprites are good they're a little wonky to pair oh and I kind of don't like the design like for fitness I you know for regular all day these are the headphones I do recommend them but for fitness they're not my favorite mmm I agree because they would like kind of get in the way a little bit like when she wants if you're a gym rat or if you run like Jaime does truly wireless earbuds are a revelation they are so awesome and then finally see more endurance so one final thing for gamers I actually don't have it right next to me I don't remember where I put it but pretty much any controller for a smartphone honestly like what is that it is that little bit for a gamer who games on their smartphone that they need and it's it's it just opens things up like there's so many games and the Play Store right now that reports that the current games that are that are current mobile games even gachi games they benefit from a controller but how has your experience been Josh because I bought a couple of powered magas like Sam is actually playing with one in the other room and the problem with these power bogus' is just they use the Bluetooth hid profile the keyboard no file and so depending on the game you have to go into settings and like really dig deep into being able to have the controller work well with the game and then it does it does depend on the game I will admit but built into recent versions of Android is automatic X input which means that when you have a controller that actually supports let's say the shield controller for example obviously ABXY two joysticks and whatnot when this pairs to a phone with recent versions of Android it automatically views it as a controller not has come not as a keyboard input I guess I haven't been using these it's almost on the level of connecting this very controller to my laptop or to my computer and it thinks it's an Xbox controller it's the same general idea I'm sorry for you that it thinks that it's an Xbox controller I'm really looking forward to trying that Razer phone one I mean they just offered it right now through you know I'm like yes definitely send them over I got you the one that I would highly recommend that I just love because there's a nostalgia kicking me is I think I think I know where it is but it's just too far out of reach it's the 8-bit do a bit Doh why don't I open it is it's a Super Nintendo controller that has been retrofitted to have analog sticks and two two shoulder buttons so it's a modern controller I have the shape of SNES so you can use on the switch right you can use on the switch you can use audacity you can use it on your on your smartphone it's only 50 bucks I've heard great things about that controller like they're great things yes I love it and there are certain games that I've played on the touch screen of mainly the pixel 3xl lately and once I cared the controller too and I was using that I was just I was just kicking ass it was great but that would be my thing like like accessorize there are so many different things for the smartphone that might be missing that you can just add on after the fact with headphones this lens I even have this case this five thousand milliamp hour of case with the pixel three XL now that was sent to me by zerolemon so there's that one you can add battery so your pixel 3 if you want there are so many different accessories you can get and I would say don't be afraid to do that even if you take off the accessory like a case when you don't need it you know you doesn't who says a case needs to be on the phone all the time just times when you meet a person yeah it does oh yeah get accessorizing start trying all all these products and and then when you're done with that head over to the holiday shopping guide and make sure you check out what pocket now in general says about what you should be buying for this holiday season I think I should pretty much do it drills I don't know if there's any more questions about the McLaren Edition but I think unless there aren't I'm not real but also enjoy to this enjoy to the world in the in the form of game controller joy to the stig controllers calm let earth subscribe to twitch oh and on that musical Christmas notes that's it for now the weekly is just as much a conversation as it is a show so make sure you make your voices heard either in the comment sections down below or by emailing us podcasts at pocketnow.com on Twitter Brandon who like to leave a little bit early Brandon is at Brandon mini man Jaime is Jay a IM underscore RI ve RA a producer in the booth is pointin Jules and I of course MJ VTech t you know me I love tech I'm JV I love tech and I love to drink tea popcorn out is at pocket now on twitter facebook Instagram and 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