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everybody depending depending on your region welcome to pocket now live this is episode number nine I am Anton denied managing editor of pocketnow.com and i'm joined today by Joe Levi the android guy senior editor with us I do hey are you doing everything is awesome good to have you here and also by Steven shank chief news editor how is the news today so far so good and how are you today I'm doing well thank you not necessarily in this order everybody I have a very very very short story to tell you I was at the gym like every every week I go to the gym four times a week and I was doing some crunches and I was trying to get my breath because I completely ran out of it and there's this new guy who walks up to me and he's like he'll dude you're the bucket now live guy and I'm is he like well I'm gonna try to come online today and tell everybody how out of breath you were and I mackay and by the time I thought my breath he was out so if you guys see a weird guy coming and telling you how out of breath I was you should be in form and with this let's start the additional pocket on my pan out I'm gonna hand it over to the jail please Joe choose somebody well my friend was here a little bit earlier but I'm not seeing him with us so i guess he dropped out I'll catch him if he comes back in the meantime mr. Superman that's a modest veal day how are you today what device are you using what part of the world are you hailing from ready can I talk a little bit louder we will okay I'm sorry I'm sorry ah practically first of all hi to everyone I'm a first time here and I'm really excited to be here and the thing is I first of all I want to start off by saying hello from Latvia hey let's see I Baltic countries yes the Baltics yes that's obviously us yeah and and I don't want to just say first of all I want to say thank you for letting me in the end why something that I searched for so long what am I talking about I'm talking about that I searched for so long time a tech review company if you will that gives me the news in such manner than nobody else can and that and I searched fought so long and what i find was one tech reviewer company that actually did the news like you can ask a hipster on the street what he thinks about certain kind of devices and always and always to same reply a difference same thing is yeah it's not but it makes me feel like the iphone is better that is one company i think you all know what I'm talking about and and and other companies that one vid you were just talks every time in such a high pitched voice that is really starting to get on my nerves but about you guys you guys make the news actually very fun to watch and I commend you to make an applause for yourself or something i'm really happy to thank you and your mother stuff that applause goes to Steven because he's amazing he's guy oh ok leavin that little shoe Edwards much appreciated yeah and I'm using the Samsung Galaxy S to the you know I i bought it first day it came out in our country that was the maid of 26 and and and i think that this is the only phone if you can say that it was the top of the line phone for a whole year nobody no one surpass this phone for whole year and that is what you don't see for a long time and and what i would like to use i see that the theme is perfect phone I think you will agree that that the perfect phone would be a galaxy note 3 with a unibody polycarbonate shell just like only HTC One X either you know yeah it will be so awesome Jessa spin just as likely to hold and you feel substantial when you hold your hand and and and but so you don't compromise you wouldn't switch out the battery because let's face it nobody ever do does that practically a one percenter for all the people don't do that I be friends I agree with you yeah thank you but but you have a little slot for the micro SD card up to 64 gigabytes just like you have on the experience they eat but I'm not on their flat just like you can push it in and that's it and and and if you think about it wouldn't it be nice to finally integrate new technology about if we talking about battery life because if you count you to change the battery that means that that you're stuck with it and that's it right and I think it would be nicer to say they finally integrated them it's it's called the spiderweb mesh battery where you don't get individual cells but you get like a cell of buttery and you can make the same size of a normal battery but your capacity is like like tenfold if i'm not mistaken i will step I was so step on Jost earth right now because he's the one super who's supposed to talk to you but I just have one question would it run stock Android or what it run okay go on till yeah yeah is it gonna run TouchWiz or is it gonna run stock here that you see if I would like to have stuck oh yeah talking about that I have a custom rom I have a custom rom on my phone and it it is basically it looks like a AOSP rom with no modifications but it has the functionality of a samsung rom you can connect it to your HDTV via MHL what you don't talk about at all and your hangouts yes I i I'm from the very beginning and nobody talks about the functionality of older phones MHL actually I would prefer to have stock Android but with connectivity options so to see and that's it android rules is this there's nothing better than you can get this rock on droid i would love to have a spare phone with windows 8 and windows 9 when it comes out show again Joe now the cameras on you there's my MHL adapter right there I got that I did a review on that with a really funky monitor not long ago and wow that was that was super super fun and exciting and crazy all at the same time but what do you think do you think MHL is going to stick around all that much or do you think we're going to see miracast takeover which is built into the newer version of androids I think that every child practically is not around even now as we speak because when we see new phones like a blackberry z10 or so right they don't use this MHL technology technology they just use practically micro and HTML or something like that not practically I've seen only if i'm not mistaken eight new phones and use that but in in two addition to that they provide you with micro HDMI too so I don't know and I've always wondered will be around I've always wondered why you have devices that put both a micro HDMI and you know micro USB port you can do the same thing with just a little adapter which you're going to have to have a special cable anyway if you're going to have micro HDMI nobody else has that just laying around so it charges your own and it charges to your phone at the same time exactly yeah that's well thank you very much for your comments we appreciate them I think it's Stevens turn to pick somebody knew from the group Tony's gonna jump in and say no I thank you and I will just say one thing that we have a new rule you guys weren't online with the occasion of the last episode we were we will publicize everybody's Twitter account who wants to publicize it so please tell everybody where they can find you on twitter i'm sorry i don't use to that i actually hate twitter okay answer that okay not about that no but very very big things no Papa having me I'm really excited to be here and I hope to be here sometime else too all right thank you very much for joining us alright Steven back to you okay why don't we talk to mr. Guillermo Vega come on down hello can you guys hear me hey yeah we can hear are you just hire okay well so you have anything in mind you want to talk to us about today or just shoot the breeze well I mean I was thinking about the topic you know what's a perfect own yeah and I don't think that there is a perfect phone for every single person i think in it varies so i thank you that but you're all for me yeah well you know I i had the galaxy note 2 and I should switch to the nexus 4 it's a big change it's actually hard to get used to the two to this this criticize solar screen size if I yeah like Jack's entry is more difficult does it a smaller screen the first couple of days yet so I'm gonna I'm that kind of person that changes phones like every 3-4 months that's all good for you hey on the note to all had it that long I said I wanted you know i like you i mean i've had the galaxy s2 the galaxy s3 they got like see note 1 like galaxy note 2 sam sup and I'm taking it yeah and I actually first started with with the iphone and you know I kind of got bored with I mean I had I had the beat the 3gs I moved to the four and then I kind of attire and I saw that on the Android side there was there was more you know more options of different things you can do with it so once I moved to Android I pretty much stay there that what would so this is iOS have to do different to draw you back what is it missing that you think a droid delivers and it does well I think so far wise i think is still better than the nandroid as far as the house luid it is but i think that form for for me is like the screen size even are four inches is still too small you know and this isn't for I mean disap 4.7 and I still find it tomorrow so Apple would have to get seriously bigger for you to pay it any textured again but I even have a the ipad 3 and you even though the user interface you know it is kind of the same i mean that's fine I mean it was good for me but for for the for the phone itself it's just too small now what do you think about this like the new Galaxy Note 8.0 people using these tablets as jumbo sized about um well I think it depends in the country because I think in the u.s. is probably not feasible since most carriers don't let let you use your tablet as a cell phone but by here for example in Costa Rica it's all open so I can just like for for example the that the tablets that they bring here their day international models so you can choose put in your sim card and it works as a phone I mean it depends here is probably dangerous because of the type of country that we have here that there's lots of theft so you have to be careful I mean if you're gonna be always like in a car in an old fishing in your house I'd say it actually works works good because you could just put it on speaker use your ear your headset and that's fine but for going outside you probably need like a like a smaller phone he don't want to be carrying around this like giant tab yeah but yeah good point yeah or a bluetooth headset and then nobody has to see your tablet that defeats the point of holding the Galaxy Note 8 to your head I guess I can't you see the image of it it's just perfect yeah well I think I think hold holding the powder to your head that's kind of seal it no it's not come on we got somebody here on the team who dies to hold a seven or eight inch tablet to his head I actually had the first Galaxy Tab the seven-point oh and then that came with the phone feature and like if I was in my house I mean that was perfect i'll just put it on speaker and just use it but as far as putting it to my head I don't know come on just what let me get b11 the main reason why I like this because I feel many people think that it is silly I am usually carrying around a phone and a tablet when I'm going mobile to do some office work outside now this 8.0 note from Samsung or any other tablet which has a ear piece or phone functionality would allow me to leave one device at home the phone so I would have a tablet which acts as a phone and I can also use it as a tablet so not two devices one device this is my main reason why I would love this yep I went when you when you will use it which would you put it to your hair or will you put in a speaker no absolutely I would put it to my head because I hate Bluetooth pets and I hate everybody overhearing my conversations well yeah that's for you just hate people thinking that you're talking to them Tony that's what you hate ok ok ok I Guillermo thank you very much for talking with us but we've got a lot of people waiting here so let's show let's move on to somebody else and please come back again ok thank you Tony ok yeah let us pick somebody who is close to me both geographically and through our history Andrea Franchitti unmute your microphone can you hear me yes we can hey good evening to you how are you how are you fine thanks you I am awesome tell me what do you want to talk about or what do we talk about depends on what you want to talk about that was a dumb seconds it wasn't even a sentence right I read about the perfect phone so we can talk about it okay what's the perfect phone for you now I have the desire s that I rooted and put a 4.1 sense rom mm-hmm and I really like it but it's pretty old with a little straight screen and so and it's bit slow so I think I think about the HTC One but in wide HTC one why because I love sense I really really love sense I I tried android without skins but it's not for me IE i really i miss the with sense widgets so that's the point i love sense andraia let me let me ask you something if all the people in this hangout would be representative from from an oem so we'd have samsung HTC nokia and all the others here and everybody would listen to what you have to say what do you think they would have to produce in order to produce the perfect phone for you something that it's fast something that it's pretty to use it spread to hinder in the hand okay describe it is it metal is it plastic is it round corner is it thick is it thin how how is the perfect phone this is what I'm trying to find out what is the phone for you if you close how big is the battery exam the battery be at least two days with high use so ambitious yeah I know that's not as vicious actually let me show you guys let me show you something right now actually we did this and people were like asking am I saying the demon just check this out Stephen in let me see if ok so there's thirty eight percent and I'm not sure if you can see the uptime I can't well oh yeah this is one day and four hours 40 minutes and 49 seconds thirty percent on the HTC One so if the HTC one can do it but it's relatively small battery I'm sure that with larger battery bones it would be possible I see I think a 3000 or maybe four thousand million pair will be pretty nice so but for now I think two thousand maybe a bit too too low how big is the screen on your perfect phone I think for and off because I have very small hands and for me 4.7 inch screen is a really big but i really like big screens so it's like 4.5 or five it depends on the basil on the on the usability well you describe it is your perfect phone so you want a 5-inch mode with no bezels that's it rights to tweeze Lee when I drop it so and what's the resolution on that 54.5 5-inch screen is it 720p is it full HD or it may be 4k well for k will be I was awesome but I think it's pretty impossible but 720p will be perfect because I think we don't need full HD interestingly that's what I thought too when I was strongly advocating why do you need full HD on your screens because it's just a salt meaning if you look at a 4h if you look at a full HD screen whether if it's the HTC One the droid DNA or the others out there and you can pair it with a foam which is 720p you can really see the difference it's much clearer sharper and you can read the text even in a position but allah as i said as i guess so resolution will is a bit low in in that in that phone and I think 720p will be great but if the market brings 720p and full HD phones at the same price I I choose a full HD because it's obvious and there is one final question for you okay in your perfect phone which is the number one killer feature so i really love music I have a guitar so I don't need the very good photos but photo would be photos will be I think I love but for me music is the greatest thing so bluetooth pairing with lossless audio will be out awesome and Winston portable Bluetooth headsets if possible I quality love i love boom sound because i usually listen to the music or to podcasts in with the phone and i really love it and i love to the microphones how HTC out the HTC One made it because with the two membranes I can wear called some concerts um and AH reality without distortion yeah because I I play bass and drums and so I can record myself while playing and I think will be great awesome Andrea Grazia piacere I will take the camera on you so that people know exactly where to follow you on twitter that's your pro handle right yes awesome thank you very much for joining us and come back whenever you have time ya hear bye bye y'all Joe back to you we just got a tour of Andrew been nurse place so I think we should switch over to him Andrew what what device do you have now and what would it be to be your perfect device all right oh okay yeah yeah yeah all right I have the nexus 4 right now so what is it you're perfect phone what do they need to do for you to get the nexus 5 for example or some other device I think one of the biggest things holding it back especially something okay some people might think it's too big like that one guy did but i think the batter is a little small and something like this like it just doesn't last me as long as I'd like it too seriously Lawrence minutes and i'm at eighty-eight percent yeah that's what I'm talking about like I'll just leave it in my pocket at work and it'll drown like ten percent of the battery life just sitting there ridiculous so how big of a battery do you think we need to have if if we had exactly the same phone same spec same everything how big in milliamp hours would we need to have for it to be your perfect device I think even if we could push it up to like 26 or 27 then like the Nexus 5 like the same size same basic dimensions just slightly larger battery will be great and not so much glass next time oh dude don't don't even get me started I don't know why they did that so are you one of the guys that has the the new Nexus 4 that has the special nubs on the back so that the glass doesn't sit down on the on the table or you like me where it's just a flat slate on the back just a flat slave just own the bumper cases for out on no no no but you guys I gotta show you this cuz I'm not happy if anyone from google is watching maybe I through work that way they're always watching so this is my bumper okay it looks just like everybody else's bumper except I don't know if this will focus in see that right there what yeah like two weeks it broke right in the middle and then this bottom part isn't it's not solid it doesn't hold onto the device anymore there's a gap it was letting gunk in there and I was starting to get scratches on and off all the time how that happened well I take it off whenever I do a video so that's like yeah times a week I said they don't they don't expect that we're gonna be removing it quite so often I don't know so then I got a new case I got this thing right here hold on let you see that you lock it on you okay so it's got this nice little cover you'll hate but you hate that as much as I hated all the samsung covers you know I loved it for the first two days and then yeah I hated it I hated you the reason I hated it wasn't for any other reason or two reasons one you get gunk in around the edges and that's just not good you know I'm gonna scratch my screen and then it's gonna break easier but to that flap opens the wrong way it needs to flip up over the top can you see that that's my job town so that I can just flip it open like a notepad otherwise I'm trying to hold it and this thing is pushing it out of my hand and I'm gonna drop it more yeah have a Joey if that thing flipped over the top then you would have been able to use the phone with one hand now this way it totally kills one-handed usability I can still do it but yeah it's you gotta flip it and then yeah pain in the neck well why would they think to add a magnet with you like doesn't that make sense I see the the accessory covers that they have on you know the ipad mini's is that what they call him I don't even know anymore it's fruity devices smart about those things but I see those not it's brilliant it attaches it doesn't have to have any mechanic mechanical connections so you don't have to have anything special built-in that's going to be a hinge the brakes if your cover gets dirty or you don't like the color whatever just take it off and there you go why not why not well I think maybe it's a challenge to put the magnets in something small or too because you know the ipad is really nice and stretched out whereas a nexus 4 is just mommy it's not like that's not small but it's smaller yeah it's really compact so fitting everything in there is a challenge already i'm sure but i don't know i don't want to have third party stuff that i have to put on my device it should be pretty enough and not slip out of my hand and jump onto the garage floor just by itself that's not all me holding is my the end shaking it around like that I've gotten visit on their residential don't play with our hearts see I know it's good i got grip on it now it's not the slippery thing can you even see that it's invisible see yes I can see that it's not can you can you see the invisishield on there yes barely yep yeah that's not that adds just enough tack just enough grip that I don't I'm not worried about any more I just put up my shirt pocket so I just don't wash my hands it's problem solved we knew there was something about you finally figured it out alright so sort of wrap it up your next perfect smartphone is still going to be powered by Android it's gonna have a bigger battery in it the form factor is about right you were saying for what we have in the current nexus 4 yeah but I'd like to be like more polycarbonate like something that's not slippery because I don't think you know they could have just gone with something like pie and avoided the whole issues absolutely I absolutely agree whether it's polycarbonate or whether it's aluminum or whether it's whatever glass on the front glass on the back that needs to stop at just not so there's not a good idea just plain and simple oh we always have the option for hyper blaze you shut your mouth Tony they have never been to Romania but every time you mentioned hyper glaze you give me reason to come over there and beat you up come on everybody thinks I'm a samsung cater i'm not i'm advocating for hyper glaze no no no i'm not a samsung hater i'm a hyper glaze hater i'd give me anything but hydrolase well as glass so all right thank you very much for being part of the show today Andrew I just wanted ask one more question i'll click antilles yes he said you live in Romania right yes that is correct have you ever been on what's the highway code I'm gonna pronounce this wrong and I better sound like an idiot the transfer garish and highlight sounds Transpo garish on actually it's the air we which goes over the garage mountains and no I have never been there in my entire life because it's so frightening that if you can get a flat tire and you don't have a spare or your spare gets a flat tire you can have any help whatsoever is this some one of those like world's deadliest roads yes was actually okay so advertisement for my country Top Gear said it's it's the most beautiful Road in the opposite list well I guess it could be on both pretty but but once i will maybe accumulate enough balls i will probably go there and some pictures with your HTC one's for megapixel camera or ultrapixels ultrapixel sorry ultrapixels Andrew tell everybody where they can find you on Twitter um I don't use my Twitter so okay only know Twitter guys today which makes our job even easier so yes from here on if you've got a website if you get Google+ or Facebook just let us know where people can get a hold of you if you want them to and if not you know if you want to be a recluse that's cool too I result if you don't want them to know a can find you just been bout my Twitter account okay or my google plus page that works too sure go on tell everybody where they can find you on my Google+ page which is every better which is Andrew better yeah awesome thank you very much for joining us and with this I'm gonna hand it over to Steven thank you know let's see how about Vlad Vlad how you doing hi can you hear me we can we can yeah so what do you think about this whole talk about perfect phones here you have any ideas in mind I've pre-ordered HTC One so it already exists of March and I'm still waiting for it there was a few delays on the fifteenth and on the 20 knife and now I'm gonna have it on the 3rd ODI because I know you're just from the same country as I and did you preorder it from within Romania or from the outside within the EU somewhere i forwarded it from clove from clothes i'm from the UK you ever shout out clove are good guys are friends I know I know if I've listened to blend the minimum a few years ago and all the HTC products we're from clove and not only does and not only does but yeah that's why I called it from there and the perfect phone I think it would have the hardware of the HTC One but with the better camera maybe eight culture pixels something like that yeah they talk about so many pixels so they talk about alter pixels being this great image sensing technology that will make peanut supposed to look better than a normal for megapixel but why not make it an 8 megapixel so it's both competing number 13 y0 team I can answer life if you'd like I can answer to this well besides of course not being able to produce them in appreciable numbers I think I think that so the the the thing behind the ultra pixel sensor is that say if if this is the normal 8 megapixel sensor HTC is using the same size physical size but the size of the pixels are larger so if we would talk about a 8 or 13 ultra pixel sensor that will have to be much much much larger physically than the normal 30 megapixel sensor so basically this very thin HTC One phone will probably be this thick I mean that's always a standard way to increase image quality making the actual some of the pixels bigger I thought that the ultrapixel was like a stacked array where the light gets scanned by multiple color sensors I maybe gets misinterpreting this entire oh it's just it's just that on the sink I think I explain this the following way think about two cities which are exactly with the same area and same dimension but one is with the population of New York as in density and one is with the population of oradea my home city which is 20 220,000 people so the pixel or Syracuse has like a hundred so the pixels are larger and I'm sorry to hijack this vector V so the technologies and there to make it thinner that's why they couldn't fit an eight altra pixel camera in the beautiful HTC One that's my guess at least now but if they did we could have a bigger battery and then it would last all week and it would just be a little bit thicker with a better camera too but you know I'm just I'm crazy over here why can't you just make batteries that take pictures any problems all like I know we have batteries but I see why don't do camera exactly yeah and some way you can upgrade your phone's camera and battery at the same time it's already on the back there just got a little window for I think I'm gonna patent this thing do you have to HTC one's you have the white one in the black the silver one in the black I had them for four days and I have sent a black one back because to HTC one's is a lot of fun but the thing is that I usually carry two phones and if I can choose those two phones are on different platforms so that I can get the best of both worlds are using the iphone 5 actually i'm using the HTC One and the iphone 5 right now at time but the iPhone 5 is in and out it's the galaxy note 2 also is in and depending on whether I go downtown to shoot some pictures this the 808 PureView which is my first and only love tony is Captain for phones yeah occasionally yes especially when i'm doing camera comparisons and people know crane gonna get you like holsters for them all okay thank you guys thank you very much for talking to Ozzie fun yeah where can we find you on twitter google+ facebook or on your blog on Twitter yes i will write to tone the chat no you have to spell it out because the chat is not public and yet being the entire idea is for this thing to get public and for you to get much more flowers Ethan behind cumin is too hard for me to pronounce it because it's my name and everything so if it's your name it's VL ad yeah it's vm and then the last name mi h eh l eight awesome everybody you can follow him right there thank you very much please everyone heaven eyes bye bye and I will I know exactly who I want to talk to how was the bowling session Madeline unmute first yeah it's great I want you want yeah what did you mean nothing the Onyx goner what what what if you could have win the perfect phone what would that be Lumia 920 oh that's all right on the market yeah so but now i'm still waiting for the US the Phantom so then you're into cameras that's the big deal yeah and I'm also into nokia and windows 8 with the soul mate so you're saying that if the Lumia 920 and the 808 PureView could have a baby that baby would yeah I'll adopt it right away and what what other features will there be maybe a 1080p screen maybe 64 gigs of internal storage what is what is the feature which you'd be most interested in aside from the huge camera actually if boomsound would be great and pick some sinneth brain is that important because I have glasses and it doesn't help that much I have a pony I site so i won't even tell if a tvs or full HD or not so about about boomsound before I got the HTC One the best sounding quality on the phone I have ever listened to you was the speaker on the 808 PureView because of its thickness nokia managed to put i'm not sure if it shows there on the top that entire thing is a speaker there's no that was a very good audio quality what else well yes storage I think 16 would be enough for me because I have a drop box connected to my phone so excuse right away so you are basically streaming and uploading and everything you are using you're using from the cloud just like I do yeah so and a really thing is funny because I'm the podcast I listened to it yesterday and it was funny you talked about topic I wanted to talk about it was their viewing angles I don't know why you always say it's a big deal because I don't want people to you up on the bus this is the eternal debate now I don't want people to see what I'm looking at on my screen except for the rare occasions when I do when I'm at a party or at a bar or at the gym and I snap a picture and I want to show it off to two or three people behind me and if I keep it straight on and the viewing angles are not yet the people on the two sides will not really see anything so that's about the only main thing I would like for a phone to have a large wide viewing angle well you can also just crammed together and hold it real far away yes that is also true at or we can use a projector phone already has yeah we saw how popular those were too yes things off the shot scenes before their time will come around decade or so yeah and I think after the last to hang out I wanted to talk about the Microsoft the surface pro because that's the one I want to get because I ever since this they announced the RT and the pro I always knew I wanted to get the pro so I just wanted to know how good it was drawn but I got that answered villa yeah there's a timed Adam the full review yeah Adam had a great exhaustive review of the surface pro ii had much check that one out I'm not necessarily talking to you everybody go on to pocket now and read that lots of pictures and lots of videos I have one last question for you regarding the perfect phone the baby of the 808 mu a 920 what materials would not key i use for that phone would it be polycarbonate as the 920 would be okay what did the helicopter and matt left it in that that was my follow-up question the shiny one or the mad one i would get the matte black it's i had to choose but if if any colors i would pick their people i love purple I so nokia if you're looking at this diva kneel up I know you're watching we want a Nokia EOS which would be purple with matte plastic and a huge awesome camera with booms out I really don't matter if the phone is heavier Oh opaque because my oh my current phone is so heavy so I can't really notice the difference and incisive I think between four and 4.5 would be great actually have her they can so it doesn't matter I have big hands too even though I find it to be a pain in the a if you use the neck of the note 2 for instance even now i have to admit the iphone 5 is small yeah and i think it's funny that people complain that it's so heavy that 920 and I've was weighing it in my hand or she's my new it my phone right now it's like what you see it's not heavy yeah Michael Fisher has a great saying you go out workout at the gym and there becomes a point when phones are just too light when they're not heavy enough and they feel cheap yeah I gotta have some heft to it yeah I like to have feminism of a phone that you can feel is there so yeah Madeline do you have any final closing thoughts we have to move on no not really again I'm empty okay I'm gonna lock my camera on you because you have your Twitter handle right there so everybody go follow her she's a Windows Phone fan and a nokia fan and a PureView fan so that's free and one Madeline thank you very much for joining us and please do come back when you have time hello take care bye bye and Joe back to you so I one of the guys it's been here since the beginning of the show is sabari sh I probably butchered your name I'm sorry about that what country do you hail from what device you have now and what is your perfect phone um I'm from India I have galaxy s2 um I would say my perfect phone would be like a TV screen but a very high ppi mode on the 441 i think it is up to 500 I know it's not necessary but still you know I use my phone a lot i use it for everything gaming music email pictures editing even sometimes I make short films and I sometimes shoot some scenes in my phone so even a good camera so let me say say like a 13 megapixel camera or an ultrapixel camera if it's good enough and I would like to have a good build which has a removable back because you know from a back out because i have put down my galaxy s2 a lot of times and every time it falls the battery pops often the cover bowl like lobby now crashed it's like it is fun from my you know this height I'm six foot tall and it is never broken the screen never got broken because I know maybe because of another theno material I recently split up HTC One and the iphone phi i was really a little upset that you know the HTC One God laughs which the iphone didn't and that was like oh my god why why did that happen they follow the same design and I go with code displace I mean I go code edges I feel it more comfortable and I prefer the screen size of 4.7 more than that is really annoying very good I you just described most of my favorite things but I had one point that I was a little confused on do you like having the removable back or is that something that you would like to not have in your perfect phone no I would like to how because I think that you know that is once one maybe not a real thing but I feel when the phone drops off the the battery cover just pops away I think that that takes in all the you know force that you know impacts the phone yeah I hadn't even considered that but the times that I've had a phone that have had a removable back even if it's you know one of these really really old ones oh you've got stuff falling down behind me even if it's like that one that has a removable back cover when it falls you do right the battery cover pops off the battery falls out and I wonder if that's relieving some of the internal stresses yet where if you've got an internal integrated battery that you can't take out those stresses have to go somewhere in it right yeah you you see the bumps of the HTC one right it was like really I was feeling bad people throw in some no money into it and you don't it just stands like an oval so banged up but rather you have a removable back cover comes off that you can you know even change it with you know gets broken so you can change the cover if it gets broken you can change the cover if it gets scratched or even if you just want to change the color you can swap out the back cover and the battery if you want to have a bigger battery and it can provide an extra level of protection against breakage because it's relieving that pressure yeah I think that's made the perfect argument for why every smartphone should have some kind of removable back and not a solid unremovable one candy and yeah about the phone my super phone or the perfect phone I always go or rely on performance a lot because as I told you I do everything on my phone so I would always like to have the you know latest and the greatest on the hardware and I liked about the motorola x phones rumors you know you can customize i know the phone what kind of volume that was quite good i would recommend that like you know Dell offers that for your laptop's like what configuration you want that would be a good move and my perfect phone I would ask for more RAM because I use a lot of applications especially games you know and a 128 gigabyte of storage yes that would work that's all I how many of you think 4 gigabytes yeah full hope you guys that would reboot ambitious so I'm thinking internal storage I might pay the extra money to get 16 gig in my nexus 4 and I don't have enough room in there to keep a whole bunch of songs I don't have a lot of room in there to keep in one or two movies and I'm full I've got copilot live so maps of North America are one and a half gig that's just not nothing I can't expand it except through the cloud and what happens as soon as I go out of coverage from the cloud I don't have any of that stuff that storage space anymore and even still if I don't have an unlimited data plan you know t-mobile's new unlimited plan the throttles you back to edge speeds once you get to 500 megabit so or megabytes I whatever it is that I don't think they understand the difference between the two but you know we've got to have I think 16 is the new minimum level 32 64 should be the new configuration and then for power phones yeah 64 128 absolutely especially if you're not going to give me an external storage slot to expand exactly because you know right the games are getting heavier and applications are getting heavier and the story just like shrinking down you know it's like dude I want this on my phone I have so many applications which are heavy for example you know my phone has a 16 gigabyte storage okay and I I install asphalt 7 and I installs Batman what he called me when the Dark Knight rights and I was literally ran out of storage I couldn't keep my songs I had to buy another eight and eight gigabyte of God you know to move my no personal music Canora photo files are not into it and you know then we run a game that was ridiculous right and especially small same reason especially if you're talking about using your phone for for taking pictures I mean we've already been talking about how image sizes are getting bigger because the camera sensors are getting bigger or better and how you look at it and when you include in their video as well I might go I don't know a month between when I clean out all of the the video and pictures on my on my phone and if I've got 56 minutes 10 minutes of HD video on my phone that's an awful lot of space that's being eaten up so I hear you and I I think we're there with bigger storage and removable storage on our perfect devices anything you will wrap up with and sorry I couldn't hear you all right do you have any last thoughts that you want to wrap up with before we move on to our next person yeah I have this one question like a no for all the android android fanboys are you know anybody who's developing it's like you know um let it you know let it be the root thing and all rooting the phone all these things away putting these things away why are the updates so slow you know every time an android version comes you have to wait for months and months I know because it's completely detached like you know the you know the manufacturer has to get the source from Google's page and then they start working on it why custom skins you know TouchWiz the latest i fashioned in s4 is close to you know Google stock water so you know why you don't put a layer over it you know you just use the google stock when inputting your features anyway all are just the gimmicks we saw on the galaxy s4 they can easily be pulled into the you know that obvious rather than you know building a whole new set of you know theming called the TouchWiz why do I do that okay so that's a really in-depth question and I really really like it so Tony don't yell at me for doing a little bit long on this response but I think it warrants a little bit of time esri knock at XDA developer TV did a very adrian aakesh an explanation about this and he explained it really well most of us think that you know TouchWiz or since or any of the other stuff is a skin that sits on top of Android and that's really not the case instead android is it's it's own thing it's not linux it's based on linux but it's it's own thing so when there's a new version of linux that comes out that doesn't mean you can just import the core and you're done you've got a new version of android it has to be retweet has to be press them crafted everything's got to be built in android now is the AOSP is the core and then other OEMs take that and they modify it releasing their own separate distinct versions of android so it's not android with sense it's not android with TouchWiz it is sense and it is TouchWiz and we just differentiate them by saying well lets android with a skin it's not it's integral it's it's all-encompassing and its built-in so when a new version of Android comes out they have to merge that code in with theirs and run through their entire compatibility testing and fix anything that the operating system broke in that custom skin that's not really a custom skin and then they also have to do that for every single app that they have built in and customize that only runs on their custom version of Android it's very time intensive it's very labor-intensive for them to do and they have to take their developers off of whatever the next project is the next phone for example and put them back on this old project that maybe a year or two old they're not making any more money from that because it's not selling any more product so it's it's an expensive thing to do and it gets very very low priority that's the first half the second half is all of those changes when eventually they come through have to be certified and okayed by the individual carriers at least here in the US to be approved to run on their network which is just another way for the carrier to exert their control over what devices run on their network which is why things like the nexus 4 scares carriers to death I'm circumventing that all together I can run Google Wallet on any character than any carrier that I want they don't have any say they don't have any control so two main reasons why it takes so long once you understand what's going on behind the scenes it kind of makes sense it it's not right it's not cool but it makes sense and that's another reason not only to go unlocked but to go Nexus I think that's yeah what yeah what you know you don't mean months that Nexus has been released officially it's still not landed in India and many other countries and you know right mixes is not up to the mark now it's already pretty old compared to devices you see the benchmark process it lasts only about four thousand which is not good enough for now hitting 12,000 in quadrant and excluding storage you are judging your phone by the quadrant benchmark you are making a mistake because I'm sure that the nexus 4 can handle any modern games which are available out there and once you're starting launching your favorite applications or browsing the internet you will not see any difference the difference is there analytically in the benchmarks but just to be on the fair side I think I i I'm right what do you think Joe because you were more into this than I am yeah in fact the articles that we've written over talking I'll calm in the last even week we can have kind of underscore this there's only so much you can do with a device to make it faster before you stop noticing any difference in the speed games are going to push that they always have and they always will something might look better load faster run a little bit smoother on a higher platform than than on a lower one a new process or more RAM better video whatever the case may be but for the vast majority of people those specs are just that their specifications made to push phones everybody it following the 8020 rule eighty percent of the stuff that you that you do on your phone is going to run exactly the same on any modern generation phone as it does on any other modern generation phone regardless of how high the specifications are so especially talking about the HTC One they're doing that to sell product I don't blame them I don't fault them but I'm still going to take my Nexus 4 over the HTC One for example because of all of the benefits and advantages that I have by having a Nexus device now that's my decision that's my choice that's my opinion yours may be different for other reasons and my opinion is no more valid or less valid than yours is if you want to go that route you have a trade off and with with slower updates and whatnot but you've got a faster device with higher specs I've got a trade off I get updates faster and straight from google and i don't have the higher specs so i'm willing to live with my trade off if you're willing to live with yours everybody's happy we're all good let's wrap it up guys yeah I'm good that's why it's i bought the time alright so how can we get a hold of you if people want to say hi and agree with your opinion or offer their own separate one do you have twitter google+ facebook how do you want them to talk back to you yeah in furious book I'm sorry sh-shit chowdhury you know i'm lame economy that's gonna be difficult you guys held up yeah but i hope they find me because this is a different name and uh in twitter i'm a little bona 20 aalst RS that's easier very good well thank you very much for being part of the show today whose turn is it next to pick somebody i forgot already Stephen oh gee let's see uh it looks like hi Otto and Devin have been getting antsy they're switching seats so why don't we talk to they finally got their tags right close that is the reason for the true no they have no no no they haven't got it you gotta switch bad guys okay yeah I'm cleaning things are whole plate written things there we go resolved all right how's it going that's different are you well so far so good we're talking about dream phones here what do you two think um you know I would love to see Nokia Megan Nexus I I know it wouldn't happen but i would i would love to see that specifically index it's not just in android he want them to be the android yeah yeah I I love the hardware of the Lumia 920 I'm just not a windows phone guy so I'd love to get my hands on something like the 920 with uh with with Android but what if someone else today you know a polycarbonate super nice camera Nexus I'm here honey HTC could do it or nose yeah I'm pretty slow I'd be up for that was that a call for skepticism yes yes making sure well I I would I challenge anyone who has an HTC whatever the Colin at the the windows phone 8 8 X and a nokia 920 put them side by side and and look at them same color tell me if you can find out just by glancing which one is which which one's nokia which one's HTC yes there are differences but at first blush yeah you're gonna potentially confuse the two of them right I can see that so maybe HTC could do is take its Windows Phone design and ported over the Android yes yes praise the things although despite what dismiss might would we talked about with Anton last week I would like I would like to see a pure view like lens on on whatever this phone maybe oh yeah you're talking to the 41-megapixel PureView not be another you liked the event was great shots since we're talking about dream phones why don't the two peer reviews make a baby I mean rush for you imagine the low-light sensitivity of the 920 and the over sampling on the purview of the 808 that will be the killer camera yeah I would imagine that the 808 already has pretty good light sensitivity just by the sheer number of excellence yes it has but you have to have a tripod handy because once you go manual and start the exposure times and the all the level tweaks there's no way on earth you can hold it steady for for I think 3.2 seconds is the maximum time which it exposes that so that's so we'll throw in some optical stabilization problems up with a slightly even thicker ridiculously thick photo well but correct me if I'm wrong I've always imagined or always pictured the image stabilization just meant that you had say a 13 megapixel camera and it threw away all the pixels on the outside so it just showed you it was in the middle so now you a 10 megapixel camera at software stabilization up that is audition has like a floating lens that it can you know it's a little electromagnetic signals to have it shake around and keep them nice and crisp that's the new thing very cool all right back to you guys yeah um uh yeah bathing yeah it was really having a dream phone would be weird because I've never had a big phone doesn't have to be big I've had this and before this I had this ok and after the green one which will be your dream phone I mean it can be whatever you want it to be and we discussed it i'm not a big power user so for me a big battery wouldn't be something I needed and I don't generally go bigger than I wouldn't go bigger than four inches or 4.3 cuz I have small hands so even like I was excited to get 3.7 hold on to that because the way the the technology and the industry is moving forward that's gonna be a rare thing yeah Lori is what about like something weird like support for interchangeable lenses I saw your playing around with a Wednesday yeah I'm cleaning a tease show tonight yeah what if you could just screw a different lens on we doing macro with your phone or on the phone is there any lenses you can put on the iPhones they make right ready for patents and I think that looks really fun okay so what if there was a galaxy camera with all of the phone stuff built in and SL are interchangeable lens systems I don't know I'm not a camera guy so application so glad ya like a twelve thousand million batteries oh I wasn't fond of the galaxy camera or I know you love I am absolutely beyond the galaxy camera produces the same output image wise than the galaxy s3 so it's basically the same sensor the same camera but with the added optical zoom yeah the telephoto yeah which optical zoom is that's the way to go imagine this guy's this just came to me how about somebody did a phone like say we had the galaxy camera you power it on and the lens extent how about somebody I don't know HTC whenever you start the camera application then the camera lens extends out I don't know for one centimeter for a couple of millimeters I don't know and you can have optical zoom and not this I don't know which kind of zoom they bundled the digital one which should be forbidden by law the energies give me get broken now how cool would that be you know as long as it doesn't make it any thicker I'd be into that it was absolutely make it thicker you know it it would extend from from say thickness 02 thickness deep thickness T plus i don't know one centimeter and then retread back so it will be basically the same the only issue you're going to have with that is now you've just introduced this very sensitive mechanical component to an otherwise non-mechanical device and the more mechanics you put into something the greater likelihood is of breakage the concept I think that's awesome you get something that's nice and flat and it'll stack out four or five nested spheres so you've got a nice big lens sticking out maybe even a half inch or so and that'd be awesome I mean it look crazy and you'd have warranty problems out the wazoo but it would look the pictures would be great and it has to be waterproof yes leave the 5am oh yeah I'd love to see something like what we talked about with with Michael the other in the week like the port list phone ya know which turned into an editorial you gave me one of those I want one of those on the other i remember a full-sized USB port on it yeah yeah well you read them oh we don't mind a barrel of 42 for the printers i wouldnt rs-232 so you can do anything oh god ethernet jack a little pop out phone jack so you can hook it up and make modem calls on it it could it could be useful I don't know there's all the cell towers collapse and you have a landline nearby sure well when I went to to Singapore years and years back I took my apple newton message pad with me and i think that was the message pad two thousand i might just been the 130 at the time but while I was over there I didn't obviously didn't have any internet connection in the hotel they didn't have Wi-Fi all over the place like I am now and even so I wouldn't have had that on my Newton as well it was a Newton been in the you know the 90s but I did have my motorola x jack so i guess it had to have been my my my message at 2000 and i took that thing and just poked a little a little port and out came my little phone jack and i took the the cord from the hotel because the the the hotel had a phone that had a data port in the back of it so i could just plug that in and I made a long-distance call from Singapore out through the hotel's lines into the United States to get my email past me like 20 bucks but I got off my email from Singapore up for that yo we have this new thing now they call it Wi-Fi now now we do yes but I'm just imagining what we could do with that port today 20 okay guys do you have any closing thoughts anything camera is locked on you while you're thinking of your closing thoughts that's where you can follow everybody droid age and vivi doodle did I say that right close enough yeah its lucky it's written there so any closing thoughts guys uh yeah nothin I'd like to say that those that follow me I don't just tweet about technology like a lot of you do for tweet towards other tech reviewers I tweet about a lot of real random things so if you decide to follow me you're gonna get a lot of really weird stuff problem so follow our discretion on behind I think we're trying to sell yourself is simple just brought you 50 more followers I just want you to follow me and all the sudden it's about the weird things I work out with like I love to do that or my hair like I do like I'm Leah he actually complimented my hair through Twitter he couldn't do it live no those having a good hair day yesterday and he commented on it awesome guys thank you very much for joining us again and week after week and we are trying to talk to you every week because we love the recurring fans as much as we love the new ones so thanks again and have a great weekend and Tony before we go on to our next people I have a request coming in from someone who's been trying to get into the show if we have already talked to you live if we could have you step out of the the Hangout you can still watch the show live but we want to make room for other people who are trying to get in yeah and the links are publicized on bucket not weights that witches bucket now a twitter account now and whoa we got some flood here regardless it's my time to choose and I will talk to me lush Jaime lush let me slide your from Syria you're close to me so good evening to you all can you just speak a little bit louder a little bit louder okay no problem you know we can hear you perfectly tell me what do you want to talk about or whether you have a perfect phone which is either on the market for nobody thought of it oh well I fit I think I got a 19 yet it know what one does today I think well it would probably be a phone that cares a back cover much the back cover is not of aluminum okay hold on let me just mute John trevett junk tea steffes for a second okay I did mute him so back to you can you please repeat your your your last sentence I couldn't hear it well that's okay I think that no one currently does a smartphone with aluminum back cover so with a removable back cover which is made of out of aluminum ya know she does something like that with their e72 or e52 phones that only I can have actually it's I'm not sure if it's aluminum or not you know what I'll be right metal nobody take it over I'm gonna go to the kitchen and grab a phone I have to show this to you so you stop ID or aluminum sounds kind of risky broom hello let's check this out metal I mean we talked about it cuz it's it's strong it's gonna be sturdy but it's not a scratch like nobody's business oh yeah you can change it yeah that's right if it's ray this is my HTC g2 okay so here you go HTC g2 it's an old old phone it's got this aluminum back cover and it scratches but they covered that on the top of this back plate you can't see that there they clear coated it so it's metal but it had a nice varnish on it that I scratched off because I hated it but they can do stuff like that they can they can coat the aluminum they can anodized the aluminum to make it a little bit stronger and i'm back on that exact no that's anybody recognize this film let me lock the camera on me let's go landscape looks like an LG it's the LG optimus 7 which was in the wave wave one of windows phones and this my friends right here is a I'm not sure if it's aluminum or stainless steel back cover let me just give you an idea cover your ears this is Madeline look it's a nice kiss perjury yeah that's um Kelly battle really but I mean something something like that would be cool in hand and can be changeable and she goes with almost anything I agree with you but I'm not sure if I would like that I mean the entire purpose of going aluminum is to have a unibody design and to eliminate as much as possible the moving parts it's okay with plastic I mean I think you could get away with aluminum back covers too but I'm not sure if it's something I personally would prefer but again you have a counterpoint so it's 11 user- here and one user plus with in your case well you know what be hot is um remember the old IBM thinkpad the magnesium alloy outer coating is going home yet I mean that kind of smudge is up a little but it's sturdy is all hacking it looks nice from a distance at least it might be very expensive that I'm not sure mee-mah should what what platform would it run or what would be its top two features well for my favorite poem would be probably android cousin to enter it and actually actually enjoys has the most customization things that you would it be would it be stock Android or voted Bronx Zoo have a I don't know custom overlay on top of Android or baked in as joe explained to achieve well I'm offers just right but I don't know we have like hundreds of skins you can use on top of itself where everyone's flavor that's that just tell me about the processor memory internal storage camera battery okay sceptile processors and everything go go with time so as time goes by it just bring back their frog ah better processors that have a better power consumption and everything so I wouldn't talk about that so as technology will bring anything but every month or so but I would go with the big screen so I'm like for another 4.3 inches to 4.5 inches so that's not that's not a big screen anymore that's that that's what I'm saying so I wouldn't go for a big screen but a smaller screen with oh you wouldn't i miss our nation you wouldn't go okay okay yeah so it would leave like 720p because nothing there love us a lot less batteries I mean that would be just defective and different camp info with decent sized battery that lasts you throughout the day without any problems so that would be so perfect ok and then how about is how does the camera shoot camera I don't use camera camera so much so I'm okay with anything like it like a pixel is just for me personally because I shall I have my Nexus here so I Kevin nexus 4 and I thought how did you get a nexus or in Serbia ah now you your this is a funny story I got it I know person cuz I'm here 200 kilometers for us I got I got it as a present from my operator my mobile operator well I have to move there and sign a contract and sign up for an operator listen listen to this I can't I got it on the phone shack that's 25 bucks I got a 16gb white Nexus that is not not terrible no not to share yeah so just normal nexus and i got it for free wow so they're just that is just the best thing and bus on the contract i got unlimited calls I'm limited decibels unlimited data and what's wrong engines so people you make a note there are carriers like this somewhere around the world yeah move to Serbia losa serviette why not everything's just as it is except except when we won't forget something something new and you can like well but but then your carrier just gives you one yeah something ugh okay Miller's do you have any final thoughts final thoughts I don't know final thoughts or questions to anybody on the team I want to ask him something real quick go on and uh not carrying that much about a camera could you live with a phone with no camera at all if that meant having the Excite Lee bigger battery or something or Harvard you'd like to have it just in case I I personally I personally could without without the camera because as I said I got three images in two months with my Nexus so that's like stupid and I got my back and I got the nexus 4 with no camera and I'd tear it a lot and I don't know just I don't care about the camera me rest early nuts so again and so it's took it with me yeah I don't know small front-facing camera would will Jake her something like skype talking or or joining the pocket now hang out that exactly something like that awesome tell everybody where they can't find you on twitter if I got a Twitter but I don't use it you don't use it if you want to publicize any other link which is related to you facebook google+ I don't know your blog not nothing more needs to call me and they can call me at as my name is displayed on facebook and one more thing I guess I got what you to get on a hangout today and at what i can to do something with my birthday PP o-- have a very very happy birthday and since we're talking about birthdays you are not the only birthday boy our own michael fisher is also having a birthday today so everybody who has a birthday today including you two guys have a very happy birthday Michael's turning 21 I think he wishes he wishes me gosh thank you very much for joining us today and please do come back next week if you have time yeah thank you but take care bye bye and with this are gonna hand it up to joy and Joe and then to Stephen and I think after that we'll have to wrap it up alright so I've got a friend of mine who's been trying to get in for a long time so was all up laughing sorry he's a pocket now friend okay so i'll go ahead and introduce yourself to everybody i know you who you are but they don't what device do you carry where are you from I'm and what would be your perfect phone i love it i geti only have two galaxies white and i am from india and i think so this year's perfect porn is samsung galaxy s4 just because it's cool just because it's cool what makes it cool and if you could improve upon it what would you do to make it even better see ya a what is it he's a get out of jail he air you if you don't be this friend that's really cool and that the smart seasons videos and a little bit of connection problems and he dropped out so okay just a pick up where he left off then um having a nice package and he was lucky to get back he got back sorry my internet connection so much snow so I so you were saying about how you like the the samsung apps that are coming built in with the galaxy s4 and that makes that makes the device cooler because of smart stay in the s pen and other stuff like that yes but why did not recycle cake because it simply do a stupid video I don't know why Sam since adding these things so is the the battery that's coming in the the galaxy s4 is that big enough for you for your perfect phone or which you go with a bigger battery with a little bit longer life well I miss school because i connect it up Oh a night and keep it overnight and then get up in the morning and you knew it and you said you've got the galaxy y right now does it give you enough battery life to make it through the whole day so you just charge it a night know if there is only for someone in house I wish itachi the innocent problem with this one so you have to charge in the middle of the day to be able to get through whole day yes I've got being music playing games and feeding you you need to touch it I think I agree in fact I've just I've come back to my phone now my nexus 4 again and i found that i'm using it more and more for facebook unfortunately but also for reading ebooks I've got a couple ebo an e book series that I'm reading right now so I have the screen on for a long time and battery sizes one of the things that's really hurting me because that you know it's not an e-ink display it's not a paper so it still uses a lot of energy just to to display the text on the screen and there's something about reading reading a book with white text on a black background that I just can't get used to so I can't even save power that way and how is the advantage we get to sit I mean it to school on my Nexus 4 I have a ducted I don't know what you call the orb that you put it on so i charged it all day while i'm at work and i don't have a problem with it but before i have that i'd have to charge it up overnight and then i'd have to charge it up again at least once through the day just to be able to make it to the end of the day so it's it's not big enough in my opinion but as long as you're near a charger or sit at a desk like i do it you know it works for me we are still broadcasting just in that way yeah we hung up for a permit it looks like ok a lot thank you for joining us tell us how people can get a hold of you if they want to say hello and if you've got any last questions or a thought that you want to wrap up on you are muted well make sure to come get your microphone ok again we get soft it up it's a scary movie can you get software updates after routing so I assume the question is if you've got a stock rom that you have rooted and you want to get a stock software update the answer to that is probably yes depending on how you rooted it if you routed by replacing your recovery image with a like clockwork mod or TW RP then know you're probably not going to be able to unless you go back and put the the stock recovery image back on the device that just is because of the way that those stock images over the error distributed they have a digital signature to them and you've got to have that stock image to be able to to work with them it's it's how they kind of keep them from being hacked which never works anymore but also how they make sure that the the update was accurate that it was downloaded completely and not corrupt one thing to keep in mind is you are probably going to lose your route when you update in fact that's one of the main reasons why people like to update why carriers and whatnot like to update is so they can close the the loop so that people can't root their device o'rear ooting may be difficult after you update and I think he for the first time tonight got unlucky because he got disconnected and somebody else too cuz his place yes so he's messaging me right now which is coming through to my pebble smartwatch I i I'm says he don't work he says he's having internet connections and he wants to say goodbye to everyone and thank you for having him on the air so thank you a lot for being here with us we appreciate it he says his Twitter account is on he sent them too fast so I can't read that one and have to get hot so when pebble is not perfect I did an article telling how the pebble is not perfect but he says his Twitter account is at a lop underscore s which is alaap underscore and the letter s so thank you for being part of the show today and with that we'll send it over to Steven okay I think we have time for one more guest to talk to hear how about Andre Andre how are you doing going unmute your mic there then I'm i have a samsung galaxy ace 2 years and I kinda like it my doubt is a I don't know if I the right choice is HTC One or galaxy s4 that's the eternal question and because I'm i really like the trees and I don't like this talk and write um and I don't like since 52 but i really like HTC one's design like the hardware guess which the software was a little more there's an antigen mod for that yeah but that goes back to the the stock rom experience so the AOSP experience so what he may need to do is wait for a touch with style launcher to come out to to apply off the top of it and so my perfect phone would be a phone with dead trees and minion any body I think that it's my perfect phone so you're saying if the HTC One had a baby with the s4 yes I got a thing on me heavy every screen too and I think far ultrapixel camera was the wrong wrong choice to HTC you'd rather have the 13-megapixel Samsung accessory yes ok or 8 megapixel for me to place selecting a talk more it's always good and that's that is going to in Oh another thing that I would like to say is it Johnny life of evil wherever his name's said that is working on a flat design for iOS 7 and I think the iOS iOS problem is not the design because I think the current the iOS design is good but it's more about software I think they he because iOS is simple but not that simple and for example when we connect iOS device to our PC or Mac when we want to synchronize itunes for example when we want to put new photos he will delete all the old photos and upload any words no that is not correct it will it will basically copy all the images to your phone images which are in your photo library either an iphoto or aperture so if you're syncing up a phone with an iTunes which doesn't know that phone then you will delete all the pictures and the videos and that they will be replaced by the ones which are in your iTunes library but if you're using the same phone with the same library that's not happening okay it's I said this because some friends of mine and di di phone and they they have that problem i have two ipads and I don't put photos or anything I just use the apps I don't I just synchronize the synchronize them one time and I don't need to lighten so that I just use I chose to listen to music Oh another thing about HTC boomsound is that when I want to listen music in my phone or see videos I always use my my headphones so I don't need boom sound okay Steven um anything else you want to add here we're running low on time any final thoughts yeah okay great well thank you for stopping by and talking with us come back next time hopefully ways it off you're right thank you okay and i think that with that we will have to wrap this episode up not before again wishing happy birthday to our colleague Michael Fisher captain two phones and not before wishing the entire Catholic world and everybody who celebrates easter this weekend a happy easter from the entire PocketNow team I was an Tandy not and I've been joined today had the pleasure to be enjoying today by 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