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Thoughts on MWC 2013 With Our Viewers - Pocketnow Live, Episode 4

2013-02-22
episode four pocket now live special edition perhaps because we've got the guys with the plan we've got got Tony and Michael in Barcelona Oh everybody a good day and they are just hanging out having all sorts of good times and we've got Taylor Martin here as well howdy a day that's a good one and yes and then the background Taylor is mid mid film he sees filming what do you what are you working on over there Taylor uh hands on I'm sorry I say it incorrectly I do it all the time but I don't even care you bun to on that excess 2012 I know it's I know it's just going to say you bunting ah how are you getting along with the with ubuntu I've got it on my um my John here my so no I'm sodium is this happening back there like well sorted what do you think down it's really really buggy and not it's not developed enough it's not a daily driver for anyone and have you ever gone to like one of those open houses and they've got like a fake TV and like a fake refrigerator and kind of like that with a bun to on mobile because you'd like the music like this is it's so weird I mean it's not even really usable so if you go into here the apps and if you go to like the calculator right here right you see it you know this is literally a screenshot it does nothing it's this and and that's and that's true about like most of the apps hotel music app that's the music up yeah can you just app on some things yeah it's it's a are you guys sure you didn't get to go boom to like I don't know a thumb phone to be exhibited at a phone store edition yeah yeah oh let's see soon we can do here notepad that bad is working yeah no pet works I can't type but no pet definitely works so notepad like opens but can't type on I can't type because I can't see what I'm doing oh I see all right good all right so so before we get started talking to some of these fine people that are here to to chat and hang out guys how is Spain treating you tell tell tell us a little bit about i've been i've been here like three or four years in a row so I'm gonna give it away to Michael I have not been here four years in a row I've never been to Spain before so this is pretty awesome we are broadcasting from the same room we broadcast the weekly from last night which was a lot of fun we are having some was different the setup was a tad different yeah we were like one foot over and still drinking same stuff but no it's been great we've we've had the opportunity to take some sightseeing excursions today and and yesterday a little bit today we finally filmed our first video which was our predictions for mwc 22 yup I know it is in front of the what Sagrada Familia that in front of that a gouty church which is always being built apparently and that was really awesome and so we moved when I got some work done between last night and today and we're just really amped for the start of the show and we're glad for the local internet from the sausage guy yes i'ma guard you gotta listen to the podcast if you want to hear that but you I in that reference so the show starts you're on the floor when the show starts on the twenty-fifth we are on the show floor on the twenty-third we're invited to a couple of events on saturday and sunday so we're hopefully going to bring you some live coverage on those days prior to the show sorry alright and if there is a windows phone with the real PureView Tony are you going to sell your kidney and you know I'm going to grab one and I'm going to get back home and you just reach over to CNN and if you see some crazy ass guy running with the whatever already managed to steal on the highway then yeah that's me getting a purely on windows so you know some z's crazy like tour buses Romanian still managed to our oceans all right well that's uh let's talk to some peeps in just a few reminders when you are done answering your question please pop off so other people can answer and try to keep yourself muted until we we say hi so Andrew you know where else you're gonna give the kick them out yeah or else I will kick them out Andrew hi hi how you doing oh we finally have not a backlight but a front light yeah I actually felt webcam that I haven't used in like three years looking good oh yeah that's a three year old webcam that's a good picture nice yeah well i paid like a hundred bucks for it so it better be looks like a little bit Morgan so you are you excited for from a World Congress anything you want to see you excited what do you thinks gonna happen oh I'm really hoping so Niall announced when they're bringing the Xperia Z to the States because I know they have it about available in Australia I think they're somewhere but I haven't seen it in america yet so you know xperia z instead of HTC one ya know I the thing that bothers me about the whole HTC one's thing is it's sort of like two camera sensors or something so if you have like a custom rom for example I don't think it will be able to fully utilize that whole town or something that's a new thing usually custom roms use all the drivers which are available so in this case you were talking red sometimes they're hard to get ahold of surgery oh um Michael did you read up on that the PDF you sent us know on no I got up on that and it's basically the information from from the website so if you go to HTC's website you can find the same information and a little mad opinion why did you ask no no I was gonna say I didn't think it was two sensors I said it was at first and I don't think it is like what is it i think it's just one sensor 14 megapixel sensor with larger pixels because they capture more light but you output at eight megapixel no you don't put out at eight megapixels you put it out it forward yeah sorry yeah we had prior to the event was that the camera was 8 megapixels comprised of 24 megapixel sensors but it turned out to be one sensor forming up it's so large and it generates maximum for megapixel images right ya know that that is a massive revelation to me i'm looking at the document right now so on your note and you give a problem with the with with for evening for megapixels is enough or do you think the photo quality Huawei um well it depends you know HTC's never been known for like outstanding photo quality or video work yes yes I HTC One like the original 1x that was just terrible yeah I didn't read more like I remember getting I was so excited to finally have it and a call my friends drove to the lake and I was like I'm gonna use my new phone that take some pictures of this car and I was like oh what the heck is this my friend who like hates photography's like man nothing sucks it wouldn't be so bad if they didn't hype it up so much I mean the slogan was amazing camera authentic sound I still go with that tool you can walk in into an AT&T store and it still has that plastered all over the place randomly it's not that they're not misleading I mean I remember the first time when when I held the HTC One X and i took a picture I was like flu amazing so what well no I think I think the marketing does it a real disservice because when I reviewed the HTC One X 480 I did not I was not really aware overly aware of amazing found incredible quality whatever the so I was like whatever this camera takes pretty good shots in regular light and it wasn't until I actually zoom down on the shot Rose like oh this is making a lot there's a lot of artifacts in here or whatever I think I think it's it's hard that the terrible quality is a little overstated but I agree that it's not a great camera I mean I think it's alright as a camera if they wouldn't have hyped it up so much that's the problem the problem with what Brandon was asking the problem with 4 megapixels is when you have a device like this the nexus 10 which has an insanely high resolution display full 4 megapixels is going to be yeah what it's already there it's already four megapixel he can't go you guys don't even have to go that far i mean the HTC One has a full HD screen that's 1920 x 1080 if you are taking a 4 megapixel image displaying that image on the screen will be ok but once you double tap that then that it will be it will become super jacked because you can even double the zoom on it so because doubling the zoom would be more than 4 megapixels and this is what we talked about a little bit last night in the podcast like I mean it's like it really is going to depend on how often you zoom in on your photos and how much you value the ability to dissent yeah what for what ninety percent of the people who take pictures for their phones are going to use it for it's going to be perfect if the image quality is great as far as sharing the facebook or something like that google+ even full resolution upload so look fine and i can definitely agree to this i'm using a the three megapixel setting on the Nokia 808 PureView and that's just awesome so if that three or four megapixel image image is perfect I have nothing against it but if that for megapixel image will be jag or I don't know then it sucks Andrew thank you very much for joining us we're gonna say goodbye and and move on to someone else but thanks my dear mmm all right Randy you can see you picking somebody because we're far away from the screen okay hi Otto did I say that right hey yeah and his girlfriend who actually happened to be the first the first lady on this vodka on this hang up ever and she's old she's all at the same time the second lady to join us hi guys weapons gone so what kind of phones floral do you use um got my nexus for an extent tip nexus 4nexus 10 180 if she see wouldn't be that's it yes what kind of cases that it's just a cheap hard case because I drop a lot because I'm very klutzy so I hadn't have a case we have some colleagues to do also that my girlfriend is as well so yeah now bumpers are a good idea yeah what uh so what are you guys thinking about mobile with Congress what are you excited about uh you got anything I'll you're the one that reads RSS feeds and looks at pages okay okay are you are you guys excited about the new HTC One very very i'm debating getting it on the dumb free features you love on those Tony's like you go with top to top two features yeah uh I'm interested in the camera and definitely that definitely that aluminum body is really nice can I be a little bit mean go for it why the camera since you haven't seen any any camera action on it that's his people buzzing marketing that's why I'm interested but I I don't know how to feel about it but I'm at least interested in seeing what the whole ultra pixel thing does mm-hmm are you worried about the resolution being 4 megapixels or is that not really consideration for you and it doesn't really bother me if I if I need a I need a huge picture she's a photographer so we we can take care of that but for for a phone camera I don't really need a huge 8-megapixel question uh because the camera has been talked about a lot and and the build quality has not yet considering at least fifty percent of you on the screen or klutzy people if with the with the aluminum body of the HTC One prevent you like with that allow you to go caseless would you go naked like in public with that with that device no I want to yeah i yeah yeah all right I love my case this from cruzerlite so I would probably pick one of those up for that the one it's so frustrating cuz the nicer the phone is the more you want to keep it naked but then the more fragile it is the more you want to protect it yeah it's you know it's kind of like you know black blackberry you know as it right with their ugly yet possibly rugged you know nothing ugly about City you do you think that the the HTC One is designed based on a phone that you might have seen before from a company in it fruit that's 350 trollin we've been debating that and the whole I mean I guess the question is with the HTC One have that chamfered edge design that aluminum design if the iphone 5 didn't have it and I guess there's no way of telling but it's a it's an interesting thought yeah I don't know i mean it's I guess it's uh is it definitely was probably inspired by the iphone to a point but i like i like that it's got enough of a unique design you know it's it doesn't look entirely like it but it's got similar is like the chamfered edges it all up I have a question for you it's going to be the last question from me what do you guys think Samsung has to bring to the table with the galaxy s4 HTC one uh I really don't know I mean 1080p would be nice but nothing that mud nice that's a must oh yeah I'm being made fun of on the other side of the camera I apologize damn cameramen yeah it's always easy to be on the other side of the lens in yeah they threaten to command flash you guys from behind me mate they can do that as long as we keep our intact so why'd you say here the video heavily weekends maybe I'm glad it for us but what did you say do what now oh I said as long as we edit it but you can put in anything more exciting than it would have said anything oh that's uh that's that's a good point that I think that 1080p is absolutely absolutely a possibility and so so I am this will be my last question on this on the HTC One given the HTC One the blackberry z10 and the iphone 5 talking about hardware only if you had all three of them in a box and you can only take one home which would you take home and why Fritz hardware on that you can run any OS on and this is for our guest whose names I don't remember because it's going on hey Aldo and the lady that's the what I said Devon Devon yeah okay so i had to end of him um based on hardware I I can't say because I've only held the iphone I haven't I haven't actually seen as a 10 or a 1 in person so that's I I guess that would be my only viable option but i i i don't know i mean from what i've seen everybody says the one feels really nice and I I like the hardware from what I've seen on that cool and I'm dad and the other half of team drops a lot um a based off of Hartford it's the same as if he had the iphones wine for a while but i am a fan of HTC so i would probably just out of being a fan of it go with the one that's just how i feel like getting the impression from the street thank you very much because it's something that's a comparison and i would like to do actually very good I ought to on Devon thank you very much and Devon thanks for being the first female on Pocket alive I'm glad to be hi nice to meet you guys thank you bye bye guys thanks guys alright well Taylor big somebody I was just gonna say a tailor's like either between moving is my conclusion he's not gonna raise dealers anyway handle and handle it like yours all tomorrow yeah Taylor I was gonna think I thought Brandon was gonna kick me off here but uh oh really let's make it another 10 minutes you know another 10 minutes for five point seven minutes ads your turn it's my turn in the wheel oh gosh um I was expecting to get kicked off I'm not ready for this let's go with Lois I curiel I don't know if that's right Lewis is over where's this no mu his microphone yeah yeah I think he's still muted yes point at the camera Michael just right there i cants right there what do you just a matter we have no audio Lewis there's an icon on the top right corner of your screen with a it should be red but if you click on it it should be great we're in for the great state or yeah we can't hear you or you have some other setting problems this is good to hang on till now crosstalk is it all as a full-duplex yum did it is really well until until he sources problems out being somebody else and that will return okay um Taylor right in the middle I would pick the guy with audio issues no offense Lois um so we'll circle back to you Thomas huffed master this is an awesome last name I don't know why but it is your name hi hey I see I'm recruit a friend yeah alright so Mobile World Congress predictions give us your top two predictions yeah that was me come on what's going on I'm not thinking three that's a bad number that's right well I know my number ones probably gonna be the Nokia EOS that's I really want to see something better with preview come out because after everything that happened with the Lumia 920 gang out how it's not real perv you going to Tony especially I'm really excited to see something exactly you want you to see oh yeah I think that's what do I keep going that phone I would have gotten that phone if it wasn't symbian I mean I just I don't know I haven't experienced in you know yeah this thing's gonna android phone because of the camera yeah you get it because the camera is but as long as you're don't need to run any apps libyans an evil necessary sale michael is is is tony is Tony campus does he compare everything to the PureView like you eat a good amber eating no not as good as beautiful yeah we got some turkish food that didn't measure up last night you know left review would have been a much better to sandwich so I just want to drop in just for one second everybody seems to and legitimately think that the nokia eos will be Oreos will be probably the thing that will steal the show what if that doesn't happen will that be the biggest disappointment of mwc hmm it's it's hard to tell like it's it's hard to tell what else is really going to be announced er I mean HTC just had their big events & Sons holding off till after mwc so it's it's really hard to tell yeah I will be for me I will ask you personally I mean it would be for me because I think the Nokia EOS is the highest end kind of release that we are expecting with reasonable certainty to occur I just that doesn't happen if no he just comes out the game was like oh here's the Lumia 400 and 450 emerging markets I'm gonna be like I'm not afraid that we will have another moment like the iphone 4s when we were expecting guy from five the expectations were high the buzz was 5am participated and then we were like oh yeah i remember when i remember that turning moment to when i'm watching the event and someone whoever his live blog i was found at the time was like doesn't seem like they'd be spending a lot this much time on the forest yeah there was something else yeah it was like yeah mm-hmm no no what's your number two number two I really want to see a lot more from this you bun to us we someone else who says it's you bun too yes you bug to that's that's how I've always said it eight it's like me for my bro it's a boon to like Ubuntu all right ah I say it wrong to you dude I said okiya I said nokia even the stephen elop was on stage and said nokia it's nakia but he said nokia end of story one thing we definitely did learn definitively recently was that route wacom it's not that it's wacom which is a way cool wow yeah come on yeah but yeah I was gonna go I was gonna come home and see about trying to get this that you bunch of preview for my nexus 7 but after just seeing what happened with all the screenshots think I might wait until screenshots hey hey like i watch the tablet video go and i really liked what they did with like the UH the thing on the side where you'd have like the phone version of crap on the side age yes I'd say side stage I like that Taylor is that usable can you show the side stage yeah I'll get it up and running once it it's a little laggy but uh what you want to do you know what they're talking about oh oh I was just wondering if Tony yoga the hell hey guys are talking about a feature on ubuntu I know that much I just didn't know inside stateroom you dare all right maybe we're happy we're about you know about to but there are so many problems with this uncle dinner silent I was about to ask you something what do you think will happen on the tablet side I mean who are the key players or what are you expecting from the tablet manufacturers was it gonna be a via android tablets or who we also see some windows 8 pro and Windows RT tablets I'm sure we'll see some windows RT windows 8 pro tablets I'm looking forward to see the note 8 I really want to see something like that I'm kind of regretting it in my nexus 7 I probably should have waited for that because i love what Samsung's doing with the s pen and the no brand so I mean I'm excited to see that I think that's going to be the main thing for tablets if that gets announced and did we just find the one person first person to say is excited about nota yeah i wanna i want to see it i mean ya know right beside stages all right let's look at this stage all right random click on taylor these keys click click a fiber well right here no he's awkward okay now these plane all right this is really hard to do but uh so you have your browser and just swipe over from the side of the screen and you pull up calculator the screenshot camera or calculator app right now yeah it doesn't do anything it's a screenshot um something usable there like something that actually functions those settings no tools oh yeah oh that would be actually really handy yeah like you did so yeah these notes while you're in the browser and so it's like a love child of multi screen on samsung devices and with multitasking as aren't dingoes phone or windows yeah yeah i was excited to see that but now that I hear there's so many boats with it i think i might hold off until more stable versions are released or there's uh you know later on i'm not sure if you guys heard it I was just asking Michael how are you as a company able to release something which is in that stage I mean on the national stage don't you have beta testers don't yeah that exactly i probably should have been a beta and they should have waited to relay some more stable version to the public i don't know i think they wanted to show that they have something that they're working on something and there's something you could use it to make calls and text messages and browse the web and you know they really want to be a big player and safe just I mean how many companies have talked about getting something out but they just don't do it in like two years ago by so these are on tues just here's something yeah it's it's just a developer preview that's all it is and it's not even intended for people like us to Z yeah we care a lot about this up who are we to say no we can't there right now we shouldn't be treating it like we should be treating blackberry 10 which is actually released to market right what was their label attached that this is a beta and this is broadly none functional favor um not really so that's why we're judge mmm yeah I mean it was just just said you know this is a preview and that was pretty much it here's how to install it that's it but it said this is a preview uh yeah there's a page where you can download and it well they're gonna elaborate yeah so so then yeah then I take it better yet if you're seeing the independent film for free you don't get to complain that it's a POS and and if you have to go through an alleyway through a corridor and down several flights of stairs to see the independent film you should like definitely having done much theatre in the space you're talking about Brendan that is entirely true yeah allow me to beam een let us move on guys yeah let us move on Thank You Thomas very much joy forever me see you later thank you thank you all right Louis do you have audio hello yeah I'm in you're in in it to win it where are you from the Texas Texas Oh give me the Sauk center mark please can you give me that Nexus xyn I'm a Mexican in Texas oh are you wearing cowboy boots right now no slippers that's not enough what I what carrier are you on down there AT&T switch recently what were you on before seal over where ah good am good everything got a good upgrade and so you've got out to either um not were on that but about an hour's away I get LTE your buddy just be a air so you ever take like I'm like a weekend drive just to like just to go into an LT you ever have all the time I got 40 you take a picture of yourself next to a 4g indicator on your phone like this is the best moment my life what nope so what kind of phone you using I have three phones from t-mobile and 1 i'll show you might as well t mobile phone mytouch 4G all right George classic mini mini scratches many battles for Galaxy Nexus everybody that is the Galaxy Nexus yes yes the old with the real one not the verizon one great one gsm no lover eyes that i'm glad you weren't wrong by the same vixen i was good and i'm probably gonna get a lot of hate for this one x no no no no that's a perfect phone actually i'm right and you completely forget about it the rest is a good phone yeah actually i'm very happy with this now cuz have you ever been following development recently it just got ass off nice so now i can just flash kernels normally like the nexus or my own light touch so what current what kernel and rom are you running I'm going to stop wrong I don't want to eat but I'm running a bit finally somebody who is a real man so little of me it's 120 minutes I think of a man oh hi hello listen to the story listen to like seriously 22 oh here we go alright god but for the episode started Tonio's tony is like he's sitting there with his galaxy note 2 frustrated beyond belief that he can't flash a different you know rom to it or like to just get the carrier customizations officer it can use it effectively and I'm like yeah why don't you just like take Brandon's advice be a man and route that sucker times like no because it takes more courage to run stock yeah you put up with that crap everybody can't move everybody can flash know you live with the way it does it to be emm group that you can have there's funny i'm running a stock asian wrong jellybean good that kernel is custom kernels custom this makes enough elements of X I have a question for you leaving the fun part aside what would you prefer would you prefer a unstable very fast internet connection mobile connection or a slower but stable any connection and I'm not saying GPRS or something like that i'm just saying a 3g stable versus LTE unstable it's good question interested section from my day-to-day usage here depends honestly here's play from from your point of view from your personal perspective slowly stable be honest yeah mmm again the LTE doesn't ready to go that fast in the Houston area hmm I get 12 I can go up to 12 but no you know oh man OMG amazing speeds yeah I like they're gonna have I have unstable LTE here and Charlotte well the I'm in the northern part of charlotte i'm in concord and sometimes i get 50 down 30 up and sometimes I get you know three down and two other family yeah it's only words the worst of them all you have I'm stable and slow not moving here and Louis Thank You Louie sir louis Louise we sleep tight oh you got my last thing right it is elegant sweet i got the first name wrong but i got your last name right yes thank you for joining us sir no problem all right hey I'll get it before I tell are you about to say you're leaving yes I was gonna say I'm ducking out what's up right I tell me to say that the well before we close the speed conversation going to the next color the very first experience I had with LTE was on the HTC One X 480 and I was doing speed tests on and on my way back to Boston and I sent Brandon my my speed test report and I was like I can't believe the speeds I'm getting on this thing and I at one point I was getting like 29 down and some ridiculous number up and Brandon was like i'm pretty sure that result was an error was insulting him with a brand-new and he was entirely writing i completely agree with it but it turns out no it's just that LTE was that awesome back before nobody was on it and talking about those days like when I'm an old man y'all remember back in my days when I was young before I moved to the south and picked up this ridiculous accent I i had the Thunderbolt so I had the original LTE device yes and speedtest.net the app wasn't updated for LTE speeds yet download was fine I did tests and it was up to 50 megabits per second which is awesome here in Charlotte the LT if I move south LT is perfect but where I am it's really spotty and I was in the heart of Charlotte I was in uptown and I ran a speedtest and it was about 40 down and it was 88 up like what no way but it was I don't get those bees it was a it was a an error on speed test false here I was like 88 of what yeah all right on that note I'm gonna duck out I will catch you guys later Billy shoot some awesome videos man there and don't cry what I'm going don't cry buddy get on I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm already doing so cool shall we go to nab you later let me be mad let me be flex pick the first person on the left you have to hover your mouse to see his name cuz your left might be different than I love you let's fig i need to get even closer i'm a bum or a numb bum or I don't know got it on the first try I'm about ass yes where are you from I'm from Canada your Canada and is I'm upon what kind of name is dead and a French is nothing brie in English Indian Indian that is good what part of Canada if you don't mind me asking please ah Ontario cool are you uh huh yeah so i would like to I'd like do you have anything you want to ask us because if you don't I'm gonna ask you something ask me something okay what I'm thinking is what do you think that this year huawei and ZTE will show off at mwc will there be a sea of mid-range or low end android phones or will it be probably one or two who will stack up with the competition at the equivalent level to me like Huawei would be I would presume they would toss out a lot more mid-range and low-end phones and mobile or Congress because when looking at one CES and their high end it didn't look that big with that what was that 6.83 wallet essence yeah yeah yeah yeah nothing was a monster yeah you telling me he was a lemon is what it was mm-hmm look out like right leg i love i love how pleased brandon was nervous but I if I was in reach of the computer I would have here's the effect why doesn't the soundboard I'm thanks for entertaining me got side we know it was I I would I also liked your joke where's our reserve someone here all you need you guys are good at that alobam let us move back to you one little expect on the on the tablet side now this is a tricky one tablet side I did I want to see if Samsung even gonna bring the Galaxy Note eating through but right second person who's excited yeah and then I mean they are i mean that's that's been confirmed i think this far back bleh general i am a die-hard Sam something are you yeah i'm stuck with in here not waving drive I'm still with you um I have a question go ahead and random sir I was gonna see what say you probably the galaxy s i'm gonna guess galaxy s2 yeah good guess I kick yeah cuz you start to say I'm stuck with then you say you're a samsung fan and the best phone you could be stuck with from Samsung Scout six I am stuck with this one and it's still on four point one point one so I am I one to a four point one point two it's about you getting update ya ghali be opting for my carrier well for 14 12 is to that is yes brothers yeah I have a question related to Samsung because this is actually related specifically to touch with and I was at a meeting with some Samsung folks recently and I kind of was talking about something else and I let it slip that was like yeah you know because TouchWiz definitely needs a refresh I mean not that the TouchWiz needs a refresh necessarily but it doesn't so do you share the same the same opinion coming from a like a samsung diehard standpoint space samsung looks fine right now big when I had an Ice Cream Sandwich and gingerbread when I first bought this this the the touch which overlay was so bad usually crash my phone and how to reboot it just to keep it working but now I have the new update everything looks feels more fluid with the project butter that Google implemented with it yeah pretty happy with it right now you know is it incorporating the nature UX elements that are also in the galaxy s3 in the note 2 like we did like the ripple water unlock and all that kind of stuff yeah it's pretty much it yet that's a lot of it's in there yet when you up put the odds updated software let me ask you a tricky question it's going to be my last question would a windows phone 8 PureView phone from a certain finish finish manufacturing nokia be enough for you to switch to Windows Phone 8 oh that is a tricky one I know it's a good way i know that's a really good question to me the camera wouldn't be my thing it to me it would be like more media conception so i'll stick to my android phones right now okay thanks for those phone is to me is like all ill try to work its way up have you considered this will be my last question on this have you considered this samsung 80s at all because i know it is on sale in your country let's be get me and looks good but commenting you guys like i'm not a fan of windows 8 but if not what if that was an android phone i would be first in line to get it it is its cool the s free well thank you for joining us a new pond I really broke hate it and we'll see you next time yeah a nice to talk to you tomm thank you you know we're in victimless guys guys first of all i should point out that al bundy is with us which is fantastic we'll get to him in a min second of all when it hey whoa echo it happens all the time people refer to Windows Phone 8 as Windows or Windows 8 does that bother you guys I think that's exactly what Microsoft wanted and I think that that's the breath the uber of brand recognition they want to unify and I think Microsoft happy now and I think that if they hadn't wanted to do that if they hadn't wanted to play on their perceived strength of the windows brand they would have indeed called windows from seven Metro UI or something that didn't carry the you know the windows for anything with Windows brand yeah and I guess it doesn't harm the brand because your phone sitting on a bar and you say oh it's running windows and everyone knows windows and if you go to a store and say I want the phone that runs windows they know exactly what to bring you because everyone says that I'm that's exactly one says that that's exactly what they wished for when they came up with a name that the brand recognition and the 90 something percent market share the window species would have a positive influence on on mobile platforms and on the surface and Windows RT / windows 8 bada-bing let's move on to wool j did i say that right impossible after i cannot i cannot the see you but i cannot hear you either so either unmute your microphone spelled his name random w why am i spelling because you might have pronounced it differently and he doesn't know we're talking about i think he knows we're talking about him because he's trying to find he's over there all the way on the right there oh he's the one yeah well that's well well i guess is it to sort it out me I hope we can talk to him peace I think he's um I can see a chinese calendar behind him or something and what about the gentleman right next to brandon with the the dramatic backlighting and the circular pattern on his shirt it's very interesting being 12 feet away from the computer are you free to you Gary sure hello hey Gary hi how you doing where are you from Gary I'm from dull Custer in the UK Ricky gentlemen you worried you are also not to call you out but you have a your occupation has to do with cards yes it doesn't date yes yes yes yes Gary's been a frequent youtube commenter of ours hey welcome to the 10 alive hi hi Michael I brothers right Tony hi you have so i clumb whatsapp I know but I've just like my first time in the in the Hangout so welcome if you're the first time here then we have a rule either you ask us something or we ask you something uh I think if also not something I'm am they thought of anything to ask but it what would you think Sony will do anything to be home safe we were just talking about this we were just talking on this before the live actually and you know they had a big big coming-out party at CES for 13 on the Xperia Z in the CL and so forth so I made audio we still got sugar you have yeah Oh started with somebody else so I think that yeah they've they've really all right just a second the PSA please everybody who are not in the current conversation with us please meet your microphones thank you very much back to you um so I think they've already drop their their big bomb for the year you know and I think if if they do release anything here it will probably be less I'm not sure they will because they placed approximately everything they had on their first card which was CES and i still have unfortunately the same feeling about HTC well they gotta do their tablet right that that z tablet the the one that will have a design language leads me that might happen in May at ctia might happen in August at key fob what I hope it happens here speaking of xperia z why would you get an xperia z over an HTC One Gary what do you think um well not being somebody who's very sort of knowledgeable knowledgeable about sort of phones and tech because it's something I've come to fairly recently I have to say to be honest largely you guys a pocket now you know I've been watching for just under a year and I've learned a lot in that time and incidentally Michael I can get it to work one of my best to see here I've got over now man i'm gonna sweep looking windows phone devices is it is that alone I can't know that it's a Lumia 920 yeah there's a smell that the nokia smile yes it is yes so good to meet another 9 20 09 there's the small I have to say I've been a bit of a wolf I've put a case on it you know what your ability report I was gonna say well no I mean to be honest I mean it's a funny thing with with I know it's kind of gone complete tangent but all of the added a lot of kind of watching reviews and your reviews and other reviews as well and what watching the drop tests which are hilarious some of them I mean have you seen the one where they run a car over it yeah yeah I think that was featured by Nadia's official Facebook account and put her account yeah yeah and it's just crazy you can't destroy it even if you try which is probably good for me because I can be a bit clumsy but as I say with me not being very sort of knowledge of knowledgeable about these things I think largely with me does come down to a little bit of brand loyalty and I would probably go with the sony for the simple reason that I'm I think this is one of the comments I made actually on the pocket now website that I'm a sort of chubby a version of Captain two phones in the sense that i have two phones and the other one ah this is cognize that it is it's the away xperia what this is the tea yeah so which I got just before they release the Z of course which is slightly irritating but it's a funny thing because I actually don't like the sort of flat slab design of the teeth of the Z quite so much are you you know what I mean yeah that's that's one thing I didn't like about I mean it's not only flat on the top and the bottom but it's flat on every single side it's like a it's like a sliver of and it's got so many covers it's unreal it doesn't have a lot of flaps on it doesn't yeah you were complaining about that at CES like Tootsie to look at to look at the stream look at the spring you basically have to remove a flap I think a three day yeah the Brennan light was on the CL is everybody but I like I'd like to ask you a question do you have any tablets and if yes are they selling tablet I don't know but again this is something I'm thinking about I mean I have a laptop a very old to love acer laptop it's only I'm sorry out well no physically give you a cake no um I mean tablets are something I've been thinking about I would really really like Nokia to bring a tablet out and I think one of the comments I made actually was there a bit like the Gypsy Rose Lee of the phone world in that so much they're not about you yeah yeah yeah they'll kind of like well we'll show you a bit then we're not yes we'll know won't and I wish to just get on with it to be honest you know cuz i think i think everyone who likes not yet new lights windows phone has been calling out for it you'll give us a tablet it's coming can you know but I kind of hope that they'll surprise everybody and having completely shot the rumors to pieces they bring one to mwc mmm and maybe not to this one maybe two next one and I think that Nokia's playing it safe and it's playing it safe on other people's money and Microsoft's money I think they're playing the waiting game I they're leaning back and seeing how much money Microsoft loses or wins on the Windows RT / windows 8 game and if Windows RT and windows 8 will pick up market share this year next year not cable release Windows RT / Windows 8 tablet if not then nakia said we had no plans we had no official announcements we didn't think about this yeah do you think though that in some ways that's a bit of a negative way of looking at it if they actually said hey we're on board with us too you know we believe in it and if all the companies that actually were had invested something in Windows 8 samsung for example with your teeth line actually said hey you know we believe in this enough two pots for hardware out there that that would actually help market the question that the answer is within your question I don't think that Nokia believes mmm what in windows 8 neon artinya so that's why they're waiting they are waiting to see whether if it's worth it to invest money which they don't apparently they already have to I think two huge buildings the HQ and another building which has been sold so they don't want to invest anymore unless it pays off quickly and Nokia would be the one to ask about that because they invested as much as you could possibly invest in Windows Phone and they have the most experience and company with absolutely no stakes and anything else just windows phone the other on so Gary thank you very much for joining us you're welcome and thank you for commenting so much we really appreciate it come back next week about I'll try guys definitely that's totally scary nice talk to you do did you guys hear the news which one there is now an emulator on XDA that allows you to run x86 apps in windows RT I heard and I got excited because I thought it was I thought it was something like bluestacks for Windows RT where you could run android apps on it once I figured out that you could just run full windows apps on RT I kind of fell right asleep the ship should I not have shouldn't cuz i want to know this is brendan you know more about this night it and if you just came to the Hangout welcome and please mute your mic Brendan tell us why this is important for the surface RT and other devices running under Turkey well Windows RT is generally terrible because it really has no purpose for being right here it is charged to do two things at this is review it tries to be this tablet touch-friendly operating system that has no apps and then it tries to be like a productive environment with like a lite version of office but then this productive version can't run Spotify or Photoshop or premier you know you know despite the apps that you like to run on the desktop so if you can run those on Windows RT makes it much better hmm yeah okay so we have we determined whether they can run effectively or not really I don't know that much about it but if i add a surface RT i would try it out random there's a person who has no image but an avatar who hasn't muted Kenny please mute him first um yeah and what well Brennan is searching for you please if you have not muted your mic please do so because it is exciting to hear you brush your microphone against a foreign object but not that exciting hey so we're gonna go back to woo j cuz i think hello there is hello hey how you doing I'm good thanks hey got your money we wish I'd early see you yeah well I can see him just fine he's moving this fine yeah yeah we cannot we have an avatar yo it's just a little okay that's sad well maybe it's us for you so where you from Rana unliving in England notin but unfroze south korea nice and you're already having the British accent oh yes you haven't so so do you have a devotion to HTC being from oh wow that's colonies yeah I understand rather yeah enough again nah either other LG or Samsung yea though I'm country using original Samsung Galaxy S which is this one classic well we can't see you Brandon what is he showing the original guy he's showing a banana phone it's very strange it to banana bay Scott yeah this is original Galaxy S with San Jose are more 10 running on it nice original Galaxy S yeah yeah giving it life how's it runners Adam hunt that's devotion that's cool man that's a real man there yeah I had loads of trouble with this with stock one could he be it's kept crashing it no reason so I really had to put another rom on it I had no choice don't you guys believe that it is not exciting is amazing that a phone which is like three years old now the galaxy s is capable of running a platform which has been released this year / a couple of months ago I don't know because like you can take your old penny in one computer and you could put you know windows 8 on it if you well no you couldn't you can take your pentium to and put windows 8 on it and it would work and mr. Ballmer will be happy to tell you that that's why they designed it that way yeah oh there we go oh yeah we have image yep that video all right hatia show if your banana phoning I want them to see ya Oh Tennessee guy yeah we can in that cyanogen montaigne yep is being updated last night with 204 point to point to so I want to know I was I want to know what kind of fluidity that this like three year old hardware is able to deliver with this build on it I mean is it amazing i said its greatest mood and when you're running like say your say you're really doing a stress test on it and you know you're going through your day and you've got like seven amateurs lazy because your buddies it's like 18 hours about time and crazy use it like is it all right well a lots a bit but it's not it's better than the one they used to have to stop one to touch base sorry i think yeah probably so is it safe to assume that a three year old phone is acting better than a phone which is a mid-range phone announced yesterday haha i don't think it does cuz i mean what about you say this is 30 of phonies three year old hardware so i think there are some limitation to that sure it is still rather impressive see it just it is just running and rejects the question why don't manufacturers update hardware yeah yeah really there yeah well I need money don't they yeah this was and well said yes what's what's the next phone you one with Jay uh my upgrade is jus let two months later so probably goes to know to is good why don't you wait until Aoife in August to get the galaxy note 3 that's out of their money all right wait wait and what about in a similar kind of vain yes were why not go for the GS 40 a man sir no actually I won't catch note because it is screen because I have really bad eyesight like I have really really bad eyesight so I really can't see anything well I don't want to disappoint you but the the text on the galaxy note 2 isn't that big I mean just because the screen is huge it doesn't mean that you will see a huge difference in and but you don't have any of the accessibility options Turner tray to let Scotty true true yeah also i think i might just root it and get one of this wrong way change the DPI sitting mm-hmm I think that's good idea yeah no problem okay I'm gonna let you guys guess what do you guys think this is any holding a little bit higher this is fun let us all get next to the nexus 7 wait hold on I know it's got wide radius corners on it Brandon click on him so that the camera this is quick oh gosh I succeed oh I can see you Brennan wouldn't watch kiss clintus to travel he's click my brand I'm guess then I well I gotta ask you this question is it a is it a samsung HTC Sony something common or is it like a 30-year brand like Kobe is the main string roll okay why then this is if that's a touchpad go I'm coming over I was gonna say say like the galaxy tab 2 or something you're correct it doesn't got stood up to 70 thank you sadly I'm not running any custom roms on a but oh well do you know why I saw one of those today I saw sore today I should have been able to cloud come on this would say thank you very much we are going to give someone else a turn and okay thank you thanks for coming by but see ya all right do you guys want to choose someone next to thank you Fisher Tony I'm seeing a lot of yellow in the middle of the screen somebody with a yellow backlight yes that is Jonas I think we had a connection problem and how was the way a little bit that's Jonas you say I think we you should select Joe Jonas he selected we have a alag situation here but I think it should catch up if we all stay perfectly still ready get over them yeah okay hey Jonas how you doing I'm fine thanks hey guys can Amy you're from Germany right yes and you are here on the last line with episode yes so then you probably know the rule either you ask us something anything or we ask you something yes but I like to show Michael something first so I don't like a life's HP from there Michael Michael likes palm a you tolerate HPV can you see that we're getting a little bit of a lag so let me catch up to you all night and he'll waiting for the frame frame rate to it I'm with love LX PDA from Sega's huh it's a it's an eight days oh yeah what is that it's oh that is sweet it's like a palmtop it's like a window see device right it's not see it's ms-dos what it was does let me show you alright well just this just for the record we are seeing to be black screen we don't thing else can see so we cannot see Brandon be our intermediary and what's running to us there's a handheld device running das it's like a it's a small like a toss clamshell device okay we got there before wed again Thanks oh you've gotta regain its not a backlit screen so can you kind of light on the front to say I have a flesh wound this is awesome this is like a knockdown the best kind of way I hate Internet okay what don't you like it just now now screw it up on us he's going to get a flashlight so wait do we know what version of d'astous is running yes bubble type the burden comment this thing is awesome I want to use us version 5 reversible Robbie was 6.2 the first version of das that I ever ran with 6.2 6.1 dot 2 or somebody I ran before but that's that that was a long time ago man I had this lip swatches SD card oh is it like a compact flash card is all later my my pardon how big is a CLS CIA oh oh yeah absolutely i remember those Oh asking how much capacities on there four megabytes all right listen to me this is this is the best thing ever I need to know what the model number of those devices so that I can actually look it up because our feed sucks right now what what L it's the HP to 100 LX okay listen I have a crazy idea if this is a handheld device would you be able and willing to send this to us of course on our account on our cost to make a video of it and just dissect it and we'll send it back to you after throw man yeah what do you know um I don't know I hope you can takut now puts readers on the spot this hour on the pocket online i also got something more modern which i also got last time classic what is it s too uh yeah that seems good now a lot of people complain about being stuck on one point one point one look at this stick on hey that's my seat us running on that set up Harry listen I i have got to tell you I've just I guess I wrote the UH throws anything did I I have just left Appetit I've just looked up the HP 200 LX and I have determined and with Tony's help that this is the next thing we need to buy so listen to me listen to me send me an email at Anton at pocketnow.com or to Michael at Michael at pocketnow.com port to Brandon Brandon at pocket now calm and give us your details we want that device in our labs for a video and i will send back to you on our account did tell me now i'm very interested in how you came came by this incredibly awesome device that I didn't know about well this is kind of funny sometimes I look at wikipedia and I see this awesome device like that's really old and like it looks like oh my god that's awesome and runs doss yeah that happened like the best time I went to ebay and there was like 19 like I called it auction yes oxidized and uh well this thing was actually shipped from the US that's why does it Cody keyboard d yes so all right so it because listeners are going to post these comments and they're gonna be like you can run an emulator or whatever okay we can run a dos emulator on anything find it that's that's very cool but this actually runs das right i mean like it as a vice our boss has a little PC speaker but with old northern as a jersey speaker up here a nap it's an application really um Paul piano man yeah that is awesome so awesome that is awesome thank you for for showing that to us join that's an email I mean it's an email yeah please do I will probably not be able to send this to you guys because I want to give this a little late I thought I love you I the bag you have our you have my word we're lucky I found one on ebay for $52 so what will make it happen awesome um that is that we have to we have to end in a minute we're gonna do one more one more last one but just a little fun stat that device has two megabytes of RAM phone like this Optimus G has 1000 times the amount of RAM that that one 1 128 k is all you'll need let us talk to Coast us hey guys hey what's up man who knows does on fire how about you where you from I'm from Greece actually nice he spit up or is it Cali manner kalimera is good morning I like its welcome thank you I'm a big fan awesome man and yeah I do have a really old device i have an HTC diamond yes oh yeah this is the european version which is like something off the thickness would you please turn it around so I can see the actual does because he designed ones huh is the diamond bag can you see that yeah oh that's so cool listen I was working at sprint when we were getting the diamond to in and I was so excited and then we got the diamond in and it had that stupid us cover that was them it was just smooth lat it was completely flat and I mean that you are showing me something that I wish I had been exposed to I've never handled a true HD Cena and also I think HTC's second phone ever to have a vga resolution that true I don't know you know I had the two decks before the diamond do you know qtek it was the name of HTC you take yes yeah before I had like button phones qat phones I had the no actually I had the s710 before this yeah yeah with a worthy keyboard yea which was lacking love it yeah I review that was a great fun yeah yeah and before that I have the qtek the 8310 or something that was once all but not now that was when phones had really cool names you know not no one or like galaxy you know like dinner Chewie I made 34 SPM 54 you know we've seen your old phone what is your your daily driver what do you have ideally I have an s3 and ice cream yeah that's good what what will you upgrade to the s4 I don't really know I'm waiting to see how it turns out what we does it take for samsung to have on the s4 so that Samsung has your money so that you can upgrade I think they should continue with the same strategy like throw everything at it like I want to removable battery I don't really use it but I want to know that I have an option mm-hmm I want an SD card for sure for sure because i have all my music on it and i don't know about the screen I hope it's not that bigger but much bigger than yesterday yeah me too last question me ok I would like to ask would you buy the hats for if it would follow the same design language as the S free it looked almost the same yeah well I'm not really much of a designer guy I wouldn't care months ok thank you power user thank you yeah this so it has a power user now I have a related question would you buy the s4 if it did not feature removable memory but it came standard at 64 gigs of on-board storage hmm well sure yeah if it's six before out a reasonable price why not that's it that's very interesting down here's the point right because I yeah we've been looking at HTC and then they're like their big thing that everyone hates is that they never offer removal battery or expandable storage but the new HTC One has 64 gigs on board so I'm wondering how that's going to be received because I think 64 games would be enough for me and as a soldier sir how are you sir it's nice to hear that that 64 gigs is still enough right now you don't have fun yet I've actually got the 16gb version with the 32 you guys the guard of it that's 48 nice yeah that's that's perfect minus whatever user and Joshua yeah then uh brother can I ask you a question at least the one let us know I've read your article on the the ultrapixels and could you care to make a comment could you guys care to make a comment what do you think about ultrapixels and they're a species like an inordinately you want us to answer I think you might even Brandon first are are 4 megapixels enough for your walk through pixels I mean even if even if the camera takes really really good pictures 4 megapixels is not enough because as I said in the article like this the screen of the nexus 10 is 4 megapixels so you see the picture if you just take in and you cannot zoom in literally there's no more there's no more data it's just 4 megapixels is not enough aight aight good enough a little bit higher better but for is just not none of what did you say green you think four is enough no I don't think I also commented and I don't think for us enough I think for us to be blue I would say that forum would be definitely enough for me if those 4 megapixels would be the perfect for megapixels I mean pureview like 4 megapixels sharp good balance good color good light dinner and I could live with it so we have the two extremes of the answer and somewhere in between I will sit and I will take the less courageous answer and say I need to see the results for myself first it's a little safe one it would I mean maybe it's a maybe it's mind-blowing Lee good and you know maybe I don't know well we move them we need to wrap it up everybody um you're gonna be seeing a lot a lot more of Tony and Michael you guys were on someone's holding up a sign that says you guys Rock oh sweet over to camera again we can't see it what did you can't hold that up or are you doing it if a catch has held up a sign on this show I need to know about something is ringing ok so we switch the camera to the person holding up the sign it is switched it is switched we can't see it well it's I think Google fine well thank you for saying that and thank your cat for holding the sign because thank you for the siphon my thanks for like like your cat huh so so you're gonna be seeing a lot more of Tony Michael at Barcelona so keep an eye on the YouTube channel keep an eye on pocketnow.com we've gonna gonna have a lot of awesome coverage and sorry we didn't get to everyone Tony just the last thought guys just because we don't get the chance to talk to you it doesn't mean that we don't love you we thank you for your support we're trying to keep it one hour but we are talking with people and it doesn't mean that we're ignoring you so please thank you for your support and please do come back next week we'll try to talk with as many people as possible thank you for that please come back and we'll see you next week I got one more sign another sign it says one hour 30 maybe we'll have to expand these 21 our thirties no bother ya because the weekly is approached two hours on on occasion our week which was supposed to be 45 minutes was we suppose are we doing I know it's not scheduled because you already be gone but are we going to do another hangout before mwc and i'll be home on the first which is friday so i'll be on but i will be in in flight could we do one on wednesday let's do it everybody yeah we'll be awesome we're going to talk about starting or a little bit you don't love to do this again because it's much more fun when we're both yeah so anyone like that so thanks everyone yeah watch the site for updates on whether we do them or not but this was a ball thank you everyone yeah okay bring all right and I'm hitting the end broadcast button right
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