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trying to quickly create my lower thirds with an audience as cool as you and a new schedule as cold as this sometimes you've just got to hand it over to the listeners will be doing that with a combination of QA and listener mail today and will also be hearing from our long-lost segue crusher about what life is like on the outside this is episode 128 of the pocket now weekly the once a week podcasts where we discuss news and opinion from the world of mobile technology smart phones tablets smart watches and beyond all that stuff you wish you had when you were young from boston's most cursed at sound booth i'm michael fisher i'm joined as usual by a man who speaks softly and carries a big brain chief news editor steven shank hello man i have so many props within reach my brain shaped jello mold is sadly not on my desk right now but very important to give the gelatin close at hand brother please remember that for the future and back after an absence that feels longer than it's probably 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the Taylor's back before we let him talk about I want to hear all about like it's like Taylor it's like Taylor we is the prism induce gave me and yeah what I want to like talk to you with his mother um before we do that though I'm gonna take a shot of robitussin and steven has to tell people how to use the QA right yeah um this episode of the pocket no weekly will be maybe a little more abbreviated than they've been in the past but we're still gonna do our best to answer any questions that you come up with while you're listening so fire them off in a Q&A the ones that gets them get the most votes from our other listeners will do our best to address on the air if they don't have time to get to yours or if there's something you think of afterwards maybe listening to the I quality version of this when it goes up shoot us an email and we'll see if we can't answer your question on a future show that HQ and if you're listening to the HQ build of the podcast I forgot there was something I please read read write us a review on things yes enjoy I we were talking off the air before we went live folks about how we're all by we're all I mean everyone in this room is uh is so so completely dead tired and and just beat to hell by this year and I'm looking forward this year being over not the sense that like a lot of people a lot of sad people are like oh this year's was worse blah blah blah it wasn't it was great year but it was also really taxing I'm about to take like like a few days off and that's gonna feel real and R&R yeah but speaking of time often time away Taylor Martin what the hell has been going on man people when people are tuning in to hear from you is what's going on yeah I've gotten a lot of comments and questions about it and in fact that my favorite one so far is actually in the comment thread on the YouTube video or the stream yes that when is Michael coming back on untethered that's the question I won't answer i understad i know because this is one of our agreement we never we never ended that agreement Michael know that is true that it our strategic strategic alliance for me to be on every show that you are on me yeah that you know how that goes yes I know and I i I've been listening to untethered on occasion I listened to the coffee podcast where I learned and I was telling the guys over at tech beard I'm like man when I listen untethered I learned I learned so much about Taylor mark because just unstoppable gets on a roll and then all of a sudden we're hearing we're hearing so much about how Taylor Martin drinks his coffee and I'm like Hades Joshua Vergara on the show he hasn't talked in 17 minutes oh there is okay well that that's because my podcast doesn't really have a host I like to play the part of hosts oh but it's kind of like a ship that no one steers let's wait like the thing about it it's like a raft floating down Larry well I hit record and anything goes like know about untethered right we've heard about onto others before we talked about in the show we haven't heard much about what's been going on at mod so what have you built on mod before we get into the news Taylor what have you been teaching us how to do since since your departure well this is what I did yesterday which is uh quarks are too big for this thing they just are but it's a it's a one-off for some Christmas presents oh oh so the core get a bottom part in the top is a custom carved and stained wood wouldn't stop her type thing yeah organizers for you know to piss off cocoon her mind is gobbling up something it looks like a circle 4095 by chef but this oh yeah we're getting some mod music up in here yeah but this is just an organizer like oh it's got chapstick in it and like toenail clippers this is the gridded cocoon grid-it and it it's like a slide stuffy like a little cheap one for like I gotcha yeah um I've been making all kinds of crap keychain and everything they're all covered in sawdust when I tried to search for my other men yeah I got covered last night i was making uh like 15 of these little wine stoppers oh man yeah I my brother and and and my sister-in-law made those for their wedding and they didn't make him like that tho those are cool they look like wooden wooden future space crystals or something there yeah yeah they're geometric that's the only name like multifaceted I don't know well looks like the sort of crystal Stoppers you get on like a fancy big brandy thing except there would ya they're kind of figure out how to build a lot of stuff I want to do bigger mods but or projects but I did I just have to build up to those because some of them are massive some of them are really expensive and the one that is the most requested out of all of the stuff I've ever done on the channel is the second part to the nexus 7 dash install in my car oh my god yet people have been asking for that for like over a year and they've been begging me for it and I will do that eventually I mean I'm I've got my nexus 7 up and running again and I will work on that I plan to work on that a week after Christmas just do you know how to weld I I do know how to weld I don't have a welder need to build your own motorcycle this is an ex logical yeah actually dude because the the let me know when you get an oxy-acetylene torch on mod because I want to see that in action my dad has one there's a gentleman I just about burn his entire hand with that one time well it'll do look good that's like aldus we're over 10,000 degrees like 2500 degrees ain't no toy i braised together a real nice driveway sign with an oxy-acetylene torch and metal shop in high school pistons yeah anyway listen uh we haven't talked about technology because the news well brief is um is still the news and it's still here and steven has to tell us about some things that are I think Taylor to you and me equally infuriating particularly this first time so let's have jewels sound the news annunciator and let's do this thing businesses seek right to block Wi-Fi hotspots Stephen what the is this and our Oh soon until I burn down a Marriott I probably not too soon I think this has very low chance of actually happening so the back story on this is that this marriott hotel and conference center somewhere down south fish might be in your neck of the woods taylor it got in trouble with the FCC earlier this year because the conference center part of it was blocking the portable Wi-Fi hotspots on guests smartphone so they would use their network infrastructure at the hotel there to break the connections between your smartphone and your laptop to make it very frustrating if you're trying to get online when you're traveling of course the hotel itself was selling its own Wi-Fi package and you were used to paying a lot for a level listener at a nice hotel you're paying a lot extra for like a daily Wi-Fi pass but for the conference it was ridiculous it was like 200 to thirteen hundred dollars depending on the length of time you were there so this big money at stake and the marriott decided it was going to prevent people from using their own devices FCC got when did to slap them with a big ol multi hundred-thousand-dollar fine but and that should have been the end of the story but then marriott came back like well okay you said we couldn't do this but thing is we really really want to do it so they filed a formal petition with the FCC seeking uh maybe some rules on if and when this might be acceptable and they're describing this not as a tool to you know dr Wi-Fi purchases getting it sometime or you know buying so many megabytes from them they're not doing it like that they're describing this as network management in that somehow by having these non official Wi-Fi hotspots pop up in their conference center it's undermining the integrity of their own network and part of me thinks like okay maybe I can see how this is a problem if someone created a Wi-Fi AP on their phone that was named very similarly to the Marriott one and was running proxy in there for looking for unencrypted connections trying to grab passwords in theory I can see a super remote possibility that there could be some nefarious actions being propagated by people with their own portable hotspot but by and large that's not what we're doing we just want to get online with our data plans with our devices that don't have their own cellular connections so really really hoping the ecstasy doesn't buy this argument a bunch of tech companies have already stood up in opposed to marriott and microsoft is one of them but then there are also companies that have been backing the marriott group and cisco systems which surprisingly sells a lot of the hardware that might be used for the network management things that Marriott wants to do and more than that just I think was to keep the market open for their Wi-Fi management tools in the future comments are officially closed FCC hasn't ruled either way on this so we're probably fretting a little too soon but not dropping the flip side of this it is troubling and the flip side of course is that at if you have a network that is tuned to work in a specific configuration as nacho king p points out in the comments people coming in and stepping all over it what they're their own access points can really screw it up for any of everyone trying to use the in-house Network I but get it I understand why I is unlicensed spectrum it's open it's supposed to be able to deal with competition from unwanted signals there's your there's no guarantee that the Wi-Fi system you go to all this trouble a setup is going to be able to function unmolested by intrusive signals that's just as part of the deal if you want something that has a guaranteed set of the spectrum allocated to you you can license it you can pay a crapload of money to the FCC but this is part of the deal when you go into the Wi-Fi you accept that there is going to be this the potential for people interfering with it did I tell you speaking of the jamming thing Tara I'll let you go on a second did I tell you the that when I was working in a bit of a shopping mall and the guy the jewelry store moved in and they didn't want people using phones in their store they put jammer and then a legal one yeah they threw the pajama in and we didn't know we were like what hell don't any of our phones work on the 800 megahertz band in here what the hell is going on we know this isn't a straight-up jamming as far as I can tell it's not because they're obviously wanting to use their own signal they're using Wi-Fi hardware I assume to do thent acade connections between the personal hot spots and the devices that people use rather than just putting the general kill filled out that knocks out all Wi-Fi I do not support a Taylor what was your where we gonna say well two things there was a one guy who recently got slapped with a huge fine for putting a cell jammer in his car and driving the highway oh yeah that's just dumb yeah he was an idiot um but there's also this really makes me like it kind of reminds me of these press events that we go to these one-off press events where they're like 800 signals and you know what can actually yeah yeah no one can actually get any sort of data transfer whatsoever because everything is trying to go the whole entire system is clogged the network everything is just it's a traffic jam is what it is and that's the only reason something like this might make sense yeah but but anything I'm talking about like convention there was a lot of people with their own devices in one place so it makes a little bit of sense it's crappy but but even in that case if they're that mini Tramp people trying to use the Internet I can't imagine that a single network is gonna work better than 50 separate networks like it just their solution benefits them in them only and that's why I don't like it now I think we'd still have to keep in mind there are other ways to tether your device without using live by you can tether over USB you can tether over bluetooth if it comes to it's probably less convenient than the Wi-Fi but not much less isn't it isn't the data throughput significantly reduced if you tether on bluetooth I don't know what's bluetooths next alone I don't know I mean to that have a surgeon the data transfer rates of Bluetooth have actually come up but I don't know if you're no mega deck range I assume well I guess we'll see how this develops I hope that they get get smacked down and and you know this does not become more of a thing than it already is i just said that's that's a lot of that's pretty brazen just imagine a future tech event or press event where you have to go to this place and pay 200 dollars to use the Wi-Fi for an hour yeah that's the ramifications of something like this honest i mean with like a backpack with like a 500-meter spool of ethernet cable yeah trailing vine all right Steven what's uh what's next on the run down here let me say where did the transparent Firefox phones that can't wait to talk about that am I wrong in thinking this is the prettiest phone I've seen in a while oh no it's not but we can do that now you are not wrong yeah so Japan is getting its first Firefox OS phone the platform's been around it feels like a couple years by now it hasn't really gained much traction in what it has been in the West in Europe we've seen sales the u.s. hasn't been too keen to pick up with it but I think a lot of the pushback that customers have had against it is the phones themselves have been kind of shitty they've been really really low end we're talking half vga displays very low end processors may be 3g connectivity so anytime you have a phones even approaching like a modern mid-ranger its kind of reason to get excited so this new firefox phone it's called the FX 0 which it's neat it almost looks like it's like a hexadecimal address but it's not Khloe could be but it's made by LG it's not being promoted as such but this is LG producing the hardware being sold in japan on carrier KDDI starting christmas day it's gonna run a little over four hundred dollars and the hardware is very mid-range II saw some commenters we're comparing it to the new Moto G and that's not too far off it's got a 720p display it's 4.7 inches snapdragon 400 16 gigs of internal storage with microSD expansion and this really cool transparent look in case yeah it's gold and I don't know about gold phones but you can inside and I know there's no plastic shielding you can't see into like the circuitry but you still see like the microSD slot the sim card all the speaker elements it's very early like clamshell custom super clear I'm sure he's there was one game intendo had all these Game Boys there was a transparent what I always want to reminds me a lot of them cool though that was like a purplish pink translucent casing this is an ugly I like Nicole yeah I do not like the bronze tone to it i'll give that i like i like a hint of blue in my transparent cases and if you can manage it some flashing LEDs behind there too but really you're so so sorry tech looking i love the picture they have in the press to make here which goes the FX 0 titled over and over it's so like the matrix phone it's very matrix phone was just gonna say that yes absolutely all i can imagine you saying that they make some flashing leds all i can imagine with this phone is like it's one of those those light up shoes the little kid wears all mental start flashing for like 30 seconds yeah a little and the sequel is gonna have like the pump you know you're gonna have like a thing on the back lane a couple times on the phone a tablet the next room well that's right a wheel and you can use it as a one wheeled skateboard absolutely now the the thing about this is that Jules is making me dizzy with that scroll the thing with this is that it's 415 dollars and for this kind of price tag especially for the markets it's apparently meant for that confuses me yeah I was trying to see what like them moto G goes for in Japan because I have I don't have a great sense of comparison for japanese film prices maybe this isn't as steep as it seems for the hardware I think it's kind of reasonable but then again compared to existing Firefox OS phones which are significantly lower I don't know yeah I'm not sure I mean it's interesting I don't know enough about the pricing structure in the markets this thing is on sale for de to comment too far but that commenter as you mentioned who said that this is basically the same the same thing as the g2 as the moto g2 rather yeah spec-wise but like you to look like this yeah I wish the g2 came in a clear in a clear case the bloomingdales edition not the android tablet that we are divided about the n1 is gonna launch in very early 2015 as yeah speaking of stuff happening in Southeast Asia we knew that the tablet was coming to the mm would go for sale in China in the first quarter of the year and I think they even mentioned owns from the commenters mentioned that it was confirmed by the chinese new year which is the middle of februari now we heard this January seventh date which is as nearly early 2015 as you can get that's just for China and we know that nokia has said the N 1 will be released in other markets around the world I think at least Europe was confirmed on there but we don't have any sense of the timetable if that's like later in q1 q2 q3 who knows at this point but just getting it out there I think would be a great start and we could finally start hearing some first-hand accounts of what this thing's like to use if that Intel chip is as powerful as it needs to be how it holds a candle to the nexus 9 and other android tablets similar form factor and considering how low the prices on here this is a a really really compelling bargain tablet and what it's like to what it's like to buy it I'm what it's like to deal with Foxconn sales and customer support I missed this comment before we moved on but in the Q&A Dante solo button says I'm old I love the idea of a transparent phone I also want to have bean bag chair in my room and an Optimus Prime bed cover retro phones for the win outstanding and I dig it the final bit of news is the lumia 1320 successor which segues nicely into into the first QA we're going to hit after this for me I don't know what it will do for you guys but this is rumored as a significant upgrade rather than what a forgettable one Steven yeah talking about I'm kind of confused by the Houthis rumor fits in with some of the other things we've been hearing about Windows Phone because this is I don't know whether considers a flagship or not it's getting a supposedly a 14 megapixel PureView camera but it would stick with a lower end SOC I believe that we say of step tracking 400 here yeah for Snapdragon 400 yeah so cuz i'm considering we heard a rumor like a week or so ago that microsoft might not have another Lumia flagship until far late in 2015 something right in September maybe August this guy it sounds like we're talking about it a lot sooner um I mean there's no specific date attacked it is because hearing but at this point you have to assume they will be out a lot in advance of that late 2015 date I guess it doesn't count as a flagship and would fit in with that but it doesn't I mean it's a 720p display and a friend but I Snapdragon 400 yeah but I mean like they're still very clear straight striations in the windows phone ecosystem and this is decidedly on exciting loving it yeah i mean the 1320 hi my makes good point in the in his first lie near the high may at their the 1320 was buried by the 15 20 when it went out you know came out and certainly if you're looking to save some money and you just wanted a big screen you didn't want all the power but i've never liked you know between the galaxy mega and all those those devices of universe really it's the 15 30 when i hear about not some 1330 exactly right and if we're not going to be hearing about him for a long time that's frustrating uh speaking of that what was the worst brand the one that disappointed you guys most this year thanks Bruno Gomez asked and I utilized that segue because you know it if you had asked me this question two weeks ago I wouldn't have been sure what to say but with all this friggin talk with with if this rumor is true and even if it's not true the fact that I don't have a 1020 replacement here that I don't have a follow-up to the 930 or the 1520 even though it's a little early for the 930 the fact that we're not ending the year on a really high-end Microsoft flagship really really frustrates me and I think Microsoft is the most disappointing to me in that sense just because they failed to keep up the the frequency of updates that means necessary on the high and now we talked about this a lot last week so I'm not going to go into it too much but Stephen yeah well I guess I guess remember that we were definitely at this point not getting a surface mini tablet this year I know it was kind of pushed under the tool I had been holding out hope maybe it would pop up in like late November or something but I guess it's not going to happen oh I was using the surface pro 3 to uh to clean my lumia by the way so I I finally got back on my 1020 last night and I was using the house surface pro 3 to use the Lumia recovery tool so I can start from scratch that was a lot of fun but I remembered what it was like to use windows on the desktop and like I was installing the microsoft software i was installing like the Lumia recovery tool it was like do you want to enter your password so that we can make changes to the system alright sweet and then it's like oh it wants a it wants security clearance to change this aspect of the system and render your system password okay fine seriously three seconds later it's like it needs to change this other aspect of the system enter your password again it's like don't need to enter your password i guess like yes each time you do you need to i mean the way that our service pro is three is set up its it's apparently just the most secure settings you can choose that no but i was so feel the same one that that Adam Lane had yeah yeah oh my god because the passwords is not just you have to enter the password is the password is so ludicrous and weird he is it is weaker but so share our passwords on the air yeah Taylor you're still working with a with it with a mac but in your off time do you have any exposure to any windows products and you're in your outside life not anymore not right now I'm shaking my face right here um I mean I have an old tower from probably 1995 nicely runs under the surface pro 3 okay it does not now the service pros reruns well it's just ask for information every time I want to move the mouse pointer okay I really wish my time with the surface pro 3 hadn't been so tainted with power issues I really do now because now I couldn't get the thing to turn on half the time like I literally like I would leave it charging overnight and unplug it and then take it somewhere and it it we can do anything about that yeah yeah and that's been solved it seems but I don't say because I didn't get to that question thank you very much as I want to say that I'm disappointed with every brand because I stepped away from the mobile market for two months now and I was expecting like 16 core processors like 40 megapixel cameras on every thumb bigger screams before gigs of RAM is finally gonna happen something it's been two months guys come on yeah come on should have phones with with rocket boosters on him but yeah exactly god I saw that for a gig headline and I was like God why it which is why why why bother because fix the underlying issues first yes yes thank you Michael don't make me wait no I'm multitasking to want it to fix the underlying issues than phones or apps will be using like 20-30 megs of ram not 300 a pop it's not the memory management it's that apps are demanding too much memory to begin with hmm now is this might be a long debate mmm do you have an answer Steven to your brand oh I am I don't know and I kind of want to hold off because i feel like isn't this one of the collaborative things will be addressing in the days to come at the end of the year course it's the end of the year so I'm disappointed in so many things i'll have to to pick one in particular I'm gonna have to think about it yeah Bruno stay tuned we're gonna run a piece on this so thank you for for submitting that I don't know anything about games guys and maybe you can help me with this hey guys has Dante so little boat head now Nintendo have announced they're working on the next gen console what what do you think of the rumors of a Nintendo smartphone would a phone with exclusive access to Nintendo apps be a winner no no I don't think she also didn't the wii u come out like a year ago three years ago but it's something also u-shaped i believe but I don't know that was the coolest aspect of the Nintendo you was its shape anandpur portability but that's it like yeah every time like it and go ahead of town i'm sorry i was just saying nintendo is really struggling right now to find something compelling yeah I think Nintendo is going to end up like Sega did and become a software company maybe I know any time they have so many games that are classics that people's yeah well yeah the most valuable thing is they're their game at the hardware is not good look at what happened every brand that's tried to build their own smartphone recently you had view at facebook facebook tried it twice and that's frickin facebook cred but maybe the worries you well the chacha the salsa and the HTC first right there was another HTC phone I can't remember there was another phone I don't remember which one it was they tried it before it ever made it to market I wrote about it one time okay Roger yeah yeah i think is sony and what it's been able to do in smartphones and consoles which I mean xperia play from a while back kind of crashed and burned do either you have a playstation 3 and i've tried using it with an xperia phone so no there's some level of connectivity between them but expect just imagine how well it works yes for Joshua Vergara from android authority alta ps4 almost specifically so he could also get the tablet z compact and play his s4 games from a tablet and I don't know that's badass yeah I don't know if he's actually done that yet but that's something I would like to try out that would be so sweet being able to like lay in bed and play a full-fledged console game from a tablet on your bed just totally agree it's like Nvidia is trying to do with the shield and the streaming from geforce cards on the pc yeah but that one that one is so neat like how many people actually pizza not not imitate the really good video card and the console hardware right so who actually has that specific video card and an nvidia tablet and wants to do that like I that's about trying it I think mine technically would work but I was warned it's such on the bottom end of the spectrum that it would be a unbearably laggy experience worried to try it so I haven't even ventured into that I just wish it was I think it might be Matt compatible I don't member because i have an nvidia graphics card in this macbook but i don't know if its high-end enough to do that and that's what i was looking into because they were also offering that with the shield but they didn't roll it out fast enough before i had to get the shield back to Brandon so I was really upset this is a nice question that we all three of us I think can have an opinion on ello gentlemen says serve on Hutton horan and I think I got close I would like to know what you guys love and hate about lollipop some are just got my note 3 with antigen mod 12 bumped up to five dead 02 and I can honestly say I am loving it also do any of you run custom roms on your smartphone I don't do custom roms do you guys used to I want to get back to it I'm so dissatisfied with lollipop stock I've been trying roms ever since I left pocket now just you know dabbling here and there and just trying to make the most of this inmate because it's starting to feel a little old to me I still like it but it's I just it needs something and I'm done with since for now I converted it back to a gpe and now it's running official lollipop from google but i did try signage ahmad and all these different roms and it's just such a hassle to like keep everything updated and upgraded and current and i just said screw it i'm going back to stock but lollipop so far I really like it I really do there are some things that actually Dustin pointed it out to me before we started recording the last untethered um the colors some of the colors and lollipop are hideous the dialer is pretty bad but the calculator is so ugly at sea foam green like who chose that color why did I switch back to Windows Phone before this vodka I don't have I don't even have all I population here here I'll show you like no like I don't you think is the timer like the timer and the clock and the alarm clock those are all finished in this like move or this is this odd violet color that's just odd it's not and there's a lot of sherbet in lollipop I feel like like the cameras yeah oh word like that is hideous what is that what do you what kind of screen are you even showing us there's like it's split there's an office oh it's the calculator yes the calculus this one out menu for the calculator ah okay okay also um just to the the many people out there who like the new action launcher i would say action launcher pairs perfectly perfectly with lollipop because all these other launchers get one thing wrong and that is the the google now integration this integrates perfectly with google now still swipe to the right okay and it's there but you also get your app drawer and a bunch of you swipe in from the bezel I said the new action launcher good so many people ask me so many questions about phones still and I just can't answer them Justine well I I Steven and I were on opposite sides of the fence here because I couldn't stand earth Steven couldn't stand a lot of things about lollipop and I actually really really really liked it I really really like some things it's just it's not enough to put me over the fence yeah for me I've been running it on my Moto X since I i finally got my update on the Moto X and for the first like four days ish was nice and then something happened and I don't know what that something was who knows that it wasn't me for sure but something changed and suddenly my Moto X started running like utter crap and now i'm waiting for a lollipop on the Moto X just as I waited for it on the Nexus 6 and it's it's just like it's so frustrating to have lag honest on a stock build or a near stock build of a modern version of Android M you you shouldn't be waiting for any modern version enter oh god this no moment realized I've been for like weeks now dismissing Nexus 5 persistent it's time for you to upgrade to lollipop notifications they stopped appearing I've been clicking later for weeks and weeks and weeks it finally got the message it got the hint that you didn't want it I do want to say like I have one gripe about lollipop yeah one so far that I've actually really ran into I can deal with colors the biggest problem is no actual silent mode it's coming in the next one well there is it it was an actual sound getting everyone like just keep pressing volume down silent that's coming back you can int just volume down and then put your phone down you have to volume down in the tap like yeah indirectly that's great and that's an annoying because totally annoying yeah because you know we go to vibrate and I don't want like the problem is that for some reason with the new update I've been having issues with Android wear and lollipop on the phone where if I say silence the connected phone it won't silence it'll just vibrate oh that's the worst in vibrate is your silence as we know oh my god so I've been my i phone buzzes my m8 buzzes and my watch buzzes and I'm just yeah mmm Nathan that makes a good point he says the browser bar colors are really cool I do like that i like how the notification bar now the color shifts and adapts to whatever the palate of the app you're in as i really like that there that that's where luckily that's where a chance for me is the really really really small stuff the the attention to tiny little details i love that hate the multitasking though well here's a here's another example of how that's cool in action launcher i don't know if you can actually see it the search bar is yellow and it holds that from the wallpaper and i'm using music that's kind of neat so if i go to musee and skip to the next wallpaper whatever the color is when i go home was there we go it kind of like a home other words it keeps the color of whatever the wallpaper is in the up wallpaper changes every few hours that's pretty neat so that's probably my favorite thing although it's not working right now that's my point like there it is it's the small stuff it's a tale that lollipop really wins that is just broad performance where it suffers and i don't think it's thanks to those animations i think that that's it's an easy conclusion to draw it's an easy thing to pin the blame on but i don't i really don't see those animations taking up so many processor cycles I mean Apple can do it just fine windows phone can do it just fine Taylor showing us something else better and so it's red there was a main red color in there bar and it changes the app drawer color everything everything changes with it and it's so nice everything changes listener mail let's let's take a break from the QA get into listener may a little bit Jules why don't you let us know when we can proceed by using the webos pong bone sure sure or tough spot you know whatever whatever however we want to do it man music sex listen it's your show man do it gadgets in hand tough spot you know we'll just run through the whole board hey the first me up mails from men new yen who's written to us before and this is something I can talk about since i'm back in lumia 1020 when you guys commented on the state of windows phone last week the panel commented about the absence of the platform and a flagship level and how there's speculation that there will be no flagship for the company until the autumn of next year right so with that information in mind i keep forgetting about that one inmate i keep forgetting to mention the damn one I made but it's just a fab rates from a brain sorry that's on the barrel that's me so with that information in mind is there any reason at all to buy a windows phone I'm a windows phone user and while i love the OS I'm seriously asking myself the same question no your opinion you guys are doing great job keep it up also happy holidays guys Taylor says no happy holidays to you man day and Taylor justify your answer I being so far away from windows phone has made me just care less and less about it I have no no windows phone no Mike yourself devices in my possession in my I can't see why I would want I would even recommend it to anyone hey I finally respond that people using it in public which I've never seen before yeah I see it actually quite a bit in Boston but it's all the low-end stuff I see tractors and big trucks mm-hmm um but a lot of wrangler jeans around oh yeah we're gonna do interesting I so the reason that I wanted to read this one is not to have an answer prepared but to say that I am in the midst of try to find out an answer for you men because I was in danger of being in Taylors shoes as I've said many times on the show before i go from review device to review device and usually that means android cuz android is dominant right now so i spent a long time not using Windows Phone and now as of last night I've switched back to my 1020 I'm very happy to be back on it I was happy to set up windows phone 8 dot one from scratch and I'm going to spend the next week or so determining how much I what what of Android i miss on Windows Phone how Windows Phone has grown since my last Windows Phone review which was the one I made for windows and whether i want to spend part of the next year on the platform as well so look for a piece on that the announcement piece will be tonight i think and then the conclusions will be in about a week from now so all we will see yeah it's convenient time control what are you doing another voice control challenge document no no no it's not because it's not like it's it's specifically not that it's like I'm trying Windows Phone for seven days I'm a freaking hero it's not that because i own the 1020 already i 1 i've wanted to go back to it for a long time but now when you have very high profile people in the industry leaving windows phone and writing about how they're leaving with this phone i just wanted to take the office attack i wanted say okay i've been away from it for a while let me go back to it and see what's worth staying for and interestingly or not it's not interesting it's just it's interesting to me so i'll share it my roommate and i have been playing through the entire halo series so I've got Cortana on the brain like crazy because she's a big part of that series and it's nice to be able to have a virtual assistant with a personality whereas Google now is awesome and i adore Google now I'm gonna miss it really hard but it's just nice to like you've no connection to google now exactly it's nice to have an attachment to my personal assistant I don't need to be attached to a computer good for you and so I'm sorry that you're playing through halo that's such a terrible game series oh man our own works to talk to I for all the times you've accused me of being a hipster friend I want to I want to inform you that you your plaid stripes are starting to come through on that shirt right there you want to watch out for the actually on the beds the plans on the bed right no bad see they did you sleep in it that's the problem no I just never halos never appealed to me ah that's so fascinating we're gonna move on from that yeah go ahead I want to say in it's sort of relative I want to try the blackberry classic yeah yeah we talked about on the passport this week I no no no the classic math apparent I know but if you're gonna accuse a blackberry phone for the past six month the classic is just like a cute n in a shiny new package yeah but the passport is a dope like a ridiculous flying mattress well BlackBerry's ridiculous this is this useful as the passport this right here is the same shape and sizes password mm-hmm nobody needs that I got I got holes I don't need a password actually just wear that some black breakfast out there the other day that's all it was like you too I don't know in the blue flashes is inspiring that and a lot of people I I'm with you one hundred percent every back track pads I which blackberry loved me enough and you how much I used to love them to send me want to be like hey tried again but they don't I've said so many terrible things about blackberry that they just want you back but you don't even know who I am anymore than we've talked a lot about that I'll show to we're not going to do it again we're done with that we're moving on and we're not we're not holding on to the past who's next it's um it's Roy and Roy has something to say Steven why don't you give voice to his social concerns Roy says hi to michael in the rest of the pocket now team and asks do you guys think that 2013 was a better smartphone year compared to 2014 I've been disappointed with most phones released this year here are a few of my disappointments nokia lumia 1020 vs well it has no real competition on the high end imaging the nexus 5 vs nexus 6 with the six coming inexpensive and a little bulkier for some tastes the Moto G upgrade this year we got a larger Moto G but not much changing under the hood galaxy s4 vs s5 whether or not the design changes to that dimple band-aid back were really an improvement or not also in samsung territory note 3 vs note for a better stylist and he thinks note for feels better but didn't really think the other upgrades were worth moving to a new model see some more here uh m7 vs m8 again design issues feeling inmates a little too tall moto x yeah we got better specs compared to release the Moto G oh great situation but different look and maybe the dimple on the back of the smaller one that really fit right in your planning a dimple anymore guess that flat panel in the back was a study attraction yeah oh and the iphones 5s vs 6 plus well that's pretty obvious bigger screen but is this something that you know Apple users have been asking for or uh co and once I oh I yes I think on the smaller devices as well um that's a lot of territory to cover there um I kind of agree with some of the points especially when we're looking at these individual models that we really liked last year or expecting big things from their successors I'll agree I kind of prefer the look of the old moto x I think the Moto G should have been more very upset about the nexus 6 we were just talking about how we wish there was a new 1020 he kind of has some points here he has some points when I'm half and half with it like for example that moto G the Moto G on the Moto X both yeah I liked the idea of the motor I loved my first moto x sure but when I hold the new Moto X next to my old moto x I'm like the old one feels definitely less well made it feels like there's a lot more plastic in and you can tell and you know that's that's so frustrating even though the new X is kind of a weird mutant I like the m8 even though it also is a weird mutant compared to the m7 which is kind of a gel disagree on samsung's I like Samsung phones this year yeah I disagree on the samsung's too because the s4 was like the most boring flagship I'd ever seen out of Samsung it was like a dollar s3 with a bunch of features that sucked if they weren't useless where's the s5 brought waterproofing at least of which I think to was it was a pretty practical addition it may be the heart rate thinks a gimmick but it's something new there trying all thrown in there on the hardware side so yeah and then the note 3 verses don't for I certainly disagree with this better stylist and feeling Han but not worth the upgrade no I disagree I mean it's a major upgrade yeah I'm you know it was one of the best seasons ever made that feel in hand is a major improvement totally major and I was carrying the note 4 to power the gear s which this is a moto 360 the gear s which I whose review goes live tonight I didn't mind it was there was the first time in a while where I had to go back to a samsung phone to support an accessory and I was like I actually didn't mind I was like all right this is the note for this is my buddy it's awesome it's like so so no I don't think 2014 was materially different than it wasn't it less disap was more disappointing than 2013 I don't think so no what do you guys think Taylor I think it's the rate at which we're improving and advancing is slowing down and that's visible this year but i don't think that affects the quality of the products all that much i think they're improving enough but you have to set your expectations because you can't advance at the same rate forever you just can't that's not going to happen I mean if that were the case we would have insanely powerful phones they would be paper-thin and probably completely translucent by next year you know like yeah it doesn't happen you have to gauge those expectations and I actually stepping out of the industry for a while I started to not miss the new phones but I guess opine for the newer models that I never actually got to try because I don't get to try them anymore like I'm really craving a moto x me when really really bad and the Nexus 6 the nation is cognac leather one why Brandon is selling his cognac leather moto x oh I'd love that but I'm broke as hell well if last year is any indication we're gonna see big discounts on the Moto X come January that's when motorola really started pushing the original model probably very true yeah but once you gauge your expectations you're not setting yourself up for so much disappointment if you're expecting everything via quantum leap from the last phone you're gonna be disappointed even more every single year quantum leaps are small leaps not baked falafel or or mac wanna bleep a giant leap there yeah that's that one that's all but but you get my point like if you're excited I didn't know that every user yeah you are setting yourself up for a disappointment it's all there is a good point so you want to you want it tailored we didn't we weren't able to send you the mail because apparently oh you're ever email from me gets auto archived and your gmail in fact yeah I don't know why that is you may have been sending me emails this whole entire time and I've not gotten them so I'm apron you'll never know you'll never know working on a spam this is the final one from who did it Luis hi their pocket no team I listen to the show every week while commuting in Sao Paulo Brazil as we spend many hours and try lyrics here you should have at least a 10 hour podcast to given through the whole week sorry I'm not going yeah thanks for the brilliant job you guys do thanks for listening when questioned google glass seems to be delayed now basically because of social acceptance issues don't you think Google should change lanes here and position this product as a fitness tracker no I would love to have something like that with the following features GPS sweat-proof materials GoPro like features music play call answering real-time fitness data standalone operation this would make a lot of sense and I think a lot of people would jump into this concept thanks a lot regards Louis tube things Stephen and then I'm gonna let you go one Louise I think you are not wrong i think a lot of people would probably jump on it but to I don't think enough wood to justify the transformation of glass which is kind of in a category of its own into a category that is so friggin crowded right now because everyone it seems everyone who can get ahold of low-cost components and a reasonable design that like attaches to your body somehow is making fitness trackers and I think tell me if I'm wrong guys cuz this might just me be me hating fitness culture again but I think even if you're a fitness guy at work or lady you're probably burned out on fitness crap by now cuz there's so much of it out there marana yeah and I don't know that I mean I'm not a super fitness guy but I can't imagine you get very useful data out of a lot of these for like aerobic exercise maybe but if you're you involved in any sort of you know workout plan where you're lifting and you want I mean you can track data with these apps if you're manually ending things but they're not going to provide you any useful feedback on muscle mass fat percentage the things you need to know to know if you're making progress yeah no no I mean making a Tony and Jaime on here yeah exactly and we've seen a samsung for example bring out some really really great health features that that really does do a great job of monitoring everything from your diet to your caloric X you know expenditures to your blood oxygen level and you're at least you don't get something while you're running like you know like that's that's a crappy thing but it's a really good sweet it's a really really good offering and that's built right into your phone and if you want to expand it a little bit you've gotta watch to do it I got more to the point of this question here of the this feature list here nine out of ten wasn't a most of them there would work just fine as a SmartWatch nothing about fitness tracking makes sense in the besides video recording like a GoPro nothing makes sense with a head based form factor right and I'd like the idea because it is an interesting way if it were not Google if it were a company with without Google's resources who really needed to make glass a hit or die I could totally see them doing this because it's not a bad conversion right i mean i understand why you would think this i think it is a very smart idea but i also don't I don't I don't see it being successful think is a smart idea in theory I think it would not work well in execution Taylor what do you think you've lost like ten pounds in the last two months right no I have not I was fighting when I gained it back at 15 guys trip oh okay listen that was what i was referring jose i read me love about your then you went to five guys and then what and then I'm back where I started no well they do things your bangs are doing a good job because you can look very you always look very cut and like you know like chef felt in your in your Instagram photos all rights thank you last night was all the sawdust though that was a sawdust that's right just gives you a lot of texture um no there's only been one fitness tracker I mean I've tried like four or five of them there's only been one that has ever peeled to me and I think apple acquired it I can't remember the name of it but the only reason it was actually any different is because it would actually track your caloric intake um I don't know if I mentioned that on the coffee podcast because all like entering all the food you ate no no no it used some sort of light data to actually measure some sort of influx in your bloodstream like light technology I have no idea what it is how it's powered is it requires right there but if it did any sort of even remotely um I'm just I was googling looking for the name of this company and just stumbled across a story someone wrote on the site techhive wearable snake oil the search for automatic calorie intake tracking took a headline but if this thing we're even remotely accurate with your caloric intake and even remotely accurate measuring your output or how many calories burned then for me it would be worth it because the only thing that really makes these things worth it is if you're actually taking the step to track your own calories and do everything that it asks you to do and then at the end of the day you're left with usually some some number that means absolutely no nothing it's arbitrary it has no real-world value like the Nike Fuel points or the point you rack up using a fit like it just doesn't make much sense uh arrow yes where is that arrow a ir Oh Jules is bringing up hopefully in the chat for us yeah that's the one it was um so it was supposed to track your stuff if i'm not mistaken apple bought them or something i don't know what happened there but outside of actually like using scientific and inaccurate numbers these fitness trackers are doing nothing to actually help you there just gamifying a fitness game is that not helping though that gets you excited about being active even if it's not giving you useful quantitative info if you're exercising that's probably a good thing right but there's a problem with the game of fine just about anything and that's then it usually kind of wears off after know like after a certain amount of time because it requires your friends to also gamify their fitness and if everyone doesn't keep it up one falls off then everybody falls off and everybody stops because that's not fun anymore what good is it to compete with yourself like it's just so that they all hinge on compete our competition and if you don't have those people there to compete with it's just I've tried them all I was very very adamant about sticking to the nike+ fuelband I did four five six months and then all of a sudden I'm like why why do I care if I get to 10,000 or five thousand or 40,000 and one day doesn't matter as long as I'm actually doing a little exercise so that the problem is that they're all arbitrary and at some point the the newness and fundus of meeting your goals every day wears off that's just my person so we've got seven know it well said well said to the both of you and we had plenty of responses in the in the QA and I think you know what we should get next time we have high may or Tony on the show will take some more fitness questions until then I'm gonna fall asleep if we keep talking about it so I've been dropping on the Moto X from Brandon where is that though well he's not it's not don't know stay tuned in with us because he was talking to me privately about because I was asking him for input before i published the leather durability report what if the new this from sunny Kyle kalra and I we all can comment on a little bit what if the new HTC hema maybe the m9 packs a 1080p screen would you be disappointed with everyone coming with a 2k display also I am most excited about this flagship than any other debt build quality sticking tongue out face you're supposed to make the face Michael not read it me I have an audio audience that I that I respect and enjoy listen here no no no no I wouldn't be disappointed I would love it if HTC did a 1080p screen on that device I don't need 2k at this size no one really needs it and for the love of God stop it everyone just stop it now that being said that being said if HTC does this I have no doubt that they will suffer in terms of sales figures in part because of this because people have been brainwashed into thinking that they need 2k and they just don't but that doesn't matter because it's it's one of those specs that you don't need two K's because we're getting their assholes right right near is better both more better right I get the phone with more geez yes exactly so it's sunny will be talking all about the m9 a lot this coming year ever feeling so don't worry about it but listen this is directly tied into Bruno gum as a question I can't get how brands don't focus on bigger batteries don't you guys do you guys think brands will focus more on longer battery lives in 2015 through no this is they've been doing it it's not going turbo as a 39 million power battery the Nexus 6 is a 32-20 the note 4 has a three course the notes gonna write but the point is as we've said on the show a lot and as I've said in a lot of my reviews and as I think an editorial set in our site based on my recommendation 2014 is the year of huge batteries and only average endurance because of those a 2k screens to a certain degree not in Taylor taught us right right yeah it's not every time but Taylor set my brain correctly here in some cases those big-ass panels are indeed causing this battery drain okay yeah and and it would stand the reason that if there are efficient 2k displays you would have even more efficient 1080p screens so boom boom yes so yeah Bruno it's not that the battery sizes are not there but manufacturers are bringing the added you know wat hours it's that they're being utilized for features that people have convinced themselves are important and it's stupid give me that 4-inch WVGA phone with the 4000 milliamp battery word up man I don't know about that is it 1080p Svein and if it's lower than 4.7 inches 720p works but that's the threshold there there I want to know what you guys are thinking about this because I've ever feeling there's a disagreement brewing are you sad there's no G flex 2 out yet thought LG would keep pushing curved displays XP Romania I am gonna be happening I think I lost no sleep there's enough flex to I've been losing a lot of things part of the reason i'm so exhausted I just can't can't go to sleep at night because I don't have a G flex 2 i love the g flex and i really want to G flex 2 and I'm hoping that we will see ones here hold your breath I'm doing it you know have an awesome feature called image retention shut your mouth it's like a e ink display you never knew you wanted but right yeah a saved power because it doesn't have to refresh do i do hope that if there is G flex 2 they solve that Vernon problem because that was rather extreme it is it is good yeah um stephen s can an interesting question no he doesn't dushyant sri asks an interesting question how do you guys manage all your devices in long-haul international flights with the individual carrying limits and whatnot I've never run into a carrying lemon for mobile devices I've actually worked in general you have carry on limits but smoke phones are small you can fit a bunch of a min oh you can stack so many of them in and I carry them on my person to cuz I'm too afraid to check him you have your holster got a couple in your pocket yeah come well d-west pouches right here and there are no pants that I like so much but no I always get scared rolling into security especially in other countries i don't know what's what their thing is like the here's a guy with 10 phones and two tablets what's his problem but no I've never been stopped for my bag of electronics I got stopped for a candle on my bag once but that was that was on the way back from Berlin yeah we like to freshen up our room yeah we have to check out the latest wikileaks thing they leaked a couple see CIA guides on how to get things through Airport customs you can get tips from the pros on how to smuggle all your devices through oh really I've never struggled with that I think to vit I think every time I go into an airport I'm like they're gonna check me they're gonna check me and they pulled me to the side once because I had so many phones and tablets oh they did yeah that was the first time I went to sea ES and or the second time I went to see yes and I had probably 15 phones in my bag three or four times macbook air and who knows how many cables and they pulled me to the side and pulled everything out of my bag and checked it and put everything back in oh like making sure that wasn't really nervous absolutely yeah I was really nervous going throught eagle on the way back but it was fine no problem I was mostly nervous because my bag barely zipped like I had to wake rinche it down and zip it back and you know I didn't like opening a spring snakes in a can like ever tablets flying everywhere this is something I've never heard of before in my life but it's interesting Dante solo but says just wondering can we remind people getting smart phones this Christmas or Hanukkah or whatever not to test them by calling the emergency service what they have better things to do than make sure your cell phone works before you get your SIM card obviously but who does that I don't know like ice don't say I I looked up I tried to look up this question while you guys were talking and to see if there was any trend if they're animators are you I haven't seen like do you not believe that the circular radio works you checking voice quality with the emergency operator Yeah right why your phone from a known thief like yeah what's the weather Elmo Rangers thing but don't do it don't call anyone less you wanna hear noise quality and you don't have your sim yet put it in a Wi-Fi download skype and give that a spin blackity black that's what we're talking about that was a um it was a really new cool news story recently about android skype vulnerability no no no metal oh that was a guy he was 30-some years old but he was operating at like a think of seven or eight year olds level he had a someone had given him an old unlike no longer used phone to listen to music with and he kept dialing 911 on accident over four thousand times in a week dan and the the dispatch office because they felt so bad for him they actually bought him a new ipod and gave him a hundred dollar itunes card and a Merry Christmas and took his phone from him here it was so nice it's such an awesome thing like I gave my mama phone to play with and get familiar with that's only a Wi-Fi there's no sim in there and you get that emergency calls only screen all the time and i put in airplane mode eventually but it would be nice if there was just some permanent switched other than airplane to say just don't use the cellular connection not interested youngest wouldn't even show up as an option this one has been uploaded significantly and we've talked about it before in the show but because it's the most upvoted question i feel like we have to address it and then after this will do maybe two more than we gotta get out of here guys why do you think the Amazon fire phone failed asks Zachary hey be bad carrier option pad OS bad price bad everything I'll answer this first bad carrier option no I I think if a phone is appealing enough you you'll jump carriers for it 18 s he proved that with the iphone i think that was overblown bad OS no i don't think so i think it was actually pretty good software bad price yes it was horribly overpriced and that was the major problem bad everything no i think everyone thinks that because it got such poor reviews i thought it was a great phone with the wrong price tag what do you guys think I kind of got everything you know that everything's the obvious answer there but I'm reading your review Michael it seemed like maybe the OS itself wasn't bad but the issues that have brought with specifically app access and being pushed into the Amazon Appstore we use the side effect of not having Google Play services it's not necessarily a problem that's inbuilt to the OS but it's the side effect and if you're used to having really convenient access to apps that's a big problem yes yes they get rice I don't know the price was bad it was our expectations were different because we were so used to kindle fire tablets being is very very affordable options and we kind of assume the phone would be a similarly super budget model and it just wasn't which might have been okay if we knew that going in I don't think it would have seen any guys I mean look at this they were asking 199 on a two-year contract you could have gotten a top-tier android smartphone or top-tier Windows Phone attire and an iphone for the same price on a contract but it had a lot of storage this at me was 32 gigabytes for the 200 wasn't it right but with those with that ecosystem disadvantage any game with great stuff to came with to you a year of prime for free or the other box right there but all that stuff is is not enough to counteract an inherent ecosystem disadvantage as you were saying see the thing is I would never recommend a fire phone to to anyone because I would also would not recommend the fire tablets to anyone as they're super popular because they were so cheap right is budget-friendly as they may be the ecosystem just isn't there if you want some like bang for your buck find an old ipad mini for sale find a nexus 7 or something to that degree because you can get much more bang for your buck and that's how i will not like back away from that this was one of the best purchases that I hey drop Jenner yeah the Nexus 7 I would rather brand skin on there yeah yeah yeah nice oh yeah but uh yeah after using the first couple of fire tablets in just I can't get used to the carousel you I it's not user-friendly for people who don't actively use tablets and want to learn something vika I mean I've given my grandma when she just could not figure out the carousel you I it's just not user-friendly it's not difficult but it's not intuitive well how's that differ from the volley pop vertical carousel you I from what what do you mean under the task switching but that I mean that's that's one page versus an integer with those archers yeah yeah whereas I don't find the carousel to be I think the carousel is fine but then we get into talking about webos and all that kind of stuff but I i think the carousel as you I center is a pretty good idea and I hate waiting the two and sometimes three seconds it takes for lollipop to bring up the carousel when all I want to do is which apps I mean it's so freaking frustrating did you put in the center of this have it right there anyway I've been trying to find a good cue and I question to go out on but you know so many these are so sweet but guys God by the way da audience you are submitting so many awesome questions that we can't even handle it there are so many questions in here and it's really really cool amat Hassan makes a very good point we need more Joe Levi on the next podcast I agree and the thing is Jose just so busy and I'm sorry but will we get them on every time we possibly can Ariel Vice one says taylor i missed you and every word in that sentence is capitalized you know that that is true i miss Finley I missed you too sue me sue me razvan lupu anyone EDM music yes please sigh listen to it from them Sam I just don't I don't have an opinion really and I I just it's it's difficult for me to find a good some of who has a pretty good one what Stephen Oh Stephen is awesome Oh Oh my girlfriend said she loves your glasses Stephen she said she loved your di had a couple times mission rich $25 on these so they better be good I just something about them is the glasses I told her it made me think of a young drew Carey young Harry was that true Carrie yeah I know no later camara no I don't mean that it's just like like the glasses I can live with that yeah it's not nice not a bad thing I'm not ripping you just saying hey Taylor what are you going to be working on after we after we get clear here i'm still looking for the final questions so what are you working on for mod today or to do Esther what are you what are you getting too yeah I've gotta do whist collaboration video that I'm working on gotta finish the vibrating with bro well it's not I'm not collaborate is like an odd and to do it yeah and uh maybe a vlog I don't know little vlog I noticed you do your vlogs well driving brother i watch that don't race me bro don't I get so many people every time I leave the house trying to race me it's so annoying um but yeah the cool stuff coming up I have a friend who's gonna be on mod very soon making some cool things I don't know if I'm gonna show off what it is that he's making because I might turn it into a mini mod I don't know we have a little sneak peak can he can you hint at it can you give us a give us a to close photo that doesn't kill tell the whole picture but maybe wets our appetite I don't I don't even know if I can hint anything without giving it away I'll just say he's a leatherworker how about that oh you're bringing horween on the show I wish I wish do you know where i can buy like wholesale big pieces of leather four not eight hundred dollars no I don't know what God know that I wish I do that are good finding I've no calluses wander around find a cow absolutely oh look I probably make it out a deer hide there's a lot of deer hide just around here we go just to tie up a loose end Bruno Gomez again I flossy carter i want him on a podcast I great we had him lined up into that well we hadn't lined up for two weeks ago that would run into a technical issue which which we had our equipment was incompatible so we're i would love to love to get him I there's a standing invitation for philosophy to come on the show any time because he is a friggin hilarious and awesome and I wanted meet him in person someday too we've never covered an event together weirdly but yeah so anyway Christmas wishes from everyone says neighs and Luke Coco I will broaden that to holiday wishes to everyone as well and thank you and back and forth and inverted and upside down we have about 40 more questions to get to but in fact we have to go yes to go what's it what Stephen what let's do the mall let's do them all I know I would love that but I have to have to do some holiday traveler and before that I have to have to post some more some more videos for you also have to shoot a short video clip for me because I takes like 10 seconds brother unless you want me to do with this camera I you don't want me to do it right now what the is Jules showing in the video there I think next a week we're gonna have an Tandy node you on the show everyone because he isn't asking oh god that's so gross what are you doing Jules their water balloons but they look like yeah this is music video it's probably an EDM music video yeah God everything gets weird when when we switch to the jewels feet after the mail oh my god folks if if you don't watch the show live and you listen to it on the audio the audio is better but the you miss out in some pretty wild stuff so i think it's it's about time to go I want to thank Taylor for for taking the time out to tell us what life is like on the other side you look happy you look healthy and and you look well so I think we're all pleased about that tea thank you I'm very stress free these days and it's nice to say that oh and that is nice I wonder what's I like brother I described that I'm just relaxed all the time like a walking I get bored and I build something I make a video about it and then go back to sitting on my couch plan as mad boss tell people where they can find your videos because mod I don't know if you know this is the single worst thing to search for on the internet if they're looking for you yeah well it does come up now if you search mud under channels on YouTube it's the top option but you can find me at mod at home on youtube so it's youtube.com / mod at home that's where you find us on or me on Twitter Facebook Google+ Instagram and on YouTube sand of course my old twitter handle is still there casper tech of course and we're gonna be on untethered sometime soon yes sir yes sir i will i'm going to spend some much needed time away from work and after that i will be an all new person maybe we'll get a haircut maybe I'll trim out this beard maybe I'll put on a new shirt if I get one for chrimbus this is this is a perfect opportunity for me to feel that Michael Fisher void on the internet because I reached that from the Patrian where I have to be Michael Fisher so I haven't done that you know that's true that's true and i'm really at liberty slope man it's actually happening this is gonna happen I want to say to you both in don't worry everyone we're going to hear from Steven and his auntie or any segment again when there's more stuff to be about but you know what it's a holiday season in the news cycle is a little slow and you know what Steven maybe you'll join me in this opinion that's fine right now isn't it yeah considering what's coming up for us in another week or two I think a little breather is well appreciated no one no one hates on a little relaxation I'm gonna get the flu before you go to CES again brother I'm so sick right now that if I get sick again at CES I might just I might just drive into the desert and find a new life man hey I don't know if you heard but my goal is to make it back to Berlin this this coming here what for evil yeah my goal for mod is the to make it to Berlin to find like because I got 3d printers and all kinds of cool stuff there so that would be my committee yeah I can make two etha we're going back to to yam will go to 0 km will got it will get a burger my service I'm gonna Burgermeister I don't want to go back to yam listen up everybody Ellie spagnoli you should know the name by now her transition track is what we use on the show it's not her transition track it's ours it's her ringtone it's not just a ringtone it's a song it's a sweet song it's an awesome song she's got millions of fans around the world chicken always use one more I imagine be one of the visitor youtube channel youtube.com slash ally spags her website ally spec nola.com both of them linked in the description below seaman what say we get out of here that's gonna do it for this episode of the pocket I wait behind me bye Jules long telling us all about getting shocked by his smartphone on twitter at greenpoint 0 watch out for that Jules 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