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here comes the fun can take one of the city Rosie good touch you rollin a together here we go if there's one thing I've learned in my several decades of existence on this planet it's that the universe has a kind of built-in balance for the purposes of wheat gadget geeks that means that when a big name brand drops a couple new shiny expensive ingots of premium tech there's usually an underdog not far away doing something similar for a lot less we're going to talk about the ends of the smartphone tech spectrum today on episode 16 one of the pocket not weekly the once-a-week podcast where we discuss news and opinion from the world of mobile technology than smartphones tablets wearables all that stuff you wish you had when you were a kid on location in New York City today I'm your host and another reviews editor michael fisher and i'm joined by an old friend and a name familiar to all of you out there I know the esteemed Joshua Vergara of android authority Josh welcome back he was gonna say yeah cuz I wrote this script out what I'm gonna start to get rid of her I know what have been the best whatever though Josh say hi to this know what's going on everybody judge welcome back and a surprise guest who we didn't have booked she just decided to come because she had exactly 25 minutes maybe yeah the technology nerd who likes to film stuff did I get that nice yes ed erica griffin welcome back to the show thank you everyone I will apologize ahead of time because you two are cutting it close and I'm the one that's like yeah josh is challenge is match he's gotta tootsie rolls he's gotten he's not worried about nothing today I blame one box therapy honestly I want to meet that guy to I didn't get the video screen I just want to run so he's Canadian so by default nice to everyone exactly our producer Jules long is cutting this echo filled show into something hopefully resembling a podcast at wer s studios in boston the time is precisely 350 p.m. eastern seaboard good afternoon 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York City with us are you sure I dude feels like they were very familiar right yeah as dawn Brendan Esposito said it feels like we've been to this event before yep we're talking folks about the samsung galaxy s6 edge+ right you could have stopped right there Alex es6 edge+ and then plot in the galaxy note 5 so this is crazy I want to hear your opinions on this but I actually legitimately had a hard time remembering what we saw today not because it's boring not because the phones are bad or anything but because I'm previously a note event was like a note event like four weeks you're like home what's the next note kind of a smelly them right and we all feel like it was a daydream yeah a little dazed right more excited about the tootsie rolls now we have to preface that you are a victim of red-eye flight scheduling and fuzzy brain donor area I'm working on e two hours of sleep ok so we are not in Josh's drunk buzz is the word okay sorry two scotches right no but but I think even if we were all on eight hours of sleep and stone sober we would be probably feeling the same way about this this kind of thing why don't you Erica give us a rundown on what the galaxy s6 plus Way galaxy s6 edge+ the galaxy s6 edge big yeah yeah um the edge um it's just big um that's all I can say it's like if somebody stuck a straw in a galaxy s6 yes they blew it up yeah you get a nice little people edge feature and you have apps inside that these people edge feature I think that's it I mean yeah so you can swipe in from the side and launch apps and then in the in the edge thing feature that should have been there in the first place right yeah so the battery is bigger because the phone is bigger it's what it is a 5.7 inch display now yes still prodigy Super AMOLED you've got a three thousand million power battery for 20 well XE knows the exynos 7420 it's the same old 16 megapixel camera we don't know which sensor they're using Isis 00 the same sure I ask this sec well you know we'll see yeah I guess they'll just see which ones they use it first then whatever's left over essentially what you checked it from the s6 yeah however they're gonna happen it's the same phone man yeah I mean there's other stuff though right maybe we've got I mean the display like I said it displays up in 5.7 just for gigs of RAM now yeah compared to three yes so that is that is a biggie LT category 9 support which i don't know if that was there before if they were just making a big deal out of it today sure so basically with that one extra gigabyte of RAM if there was issue with ram management hopefully our apps won't be shutting down hopefully that's that's good it's hopefully operative word it shouldn't image they should have been shining out on three gigs let me say that yes diksha not have been turning off s health while I was trying to manage my workout just because it was in the background by one card yeah so when they around this since age I was like okay let's make sure those the software can handle it fine and then there's a samsung pay they made a big deal about that that's launching August twentieth and Europe and September 28th in the United States so they'll be fun to try josh is the one who first told me about that on a previous edition of this podcast talk about what was at mwc I told me about the the pay thing oh well it to be honest like it was just personally I'm not really that convinced about any pay services because I don't want all of my credit cards to an all my information for that matter to be out in what could potentially be the cloud the event if tokenization is something that Samsung is trying to do with Samsung pay for this that launched at the same time you know it's just if anybody could come in and just swipe up from the bottom which is what you're able to do with Samsung pay you just swipe up from the bottom at any point on the phone then your credit cards come on can you select which one yes you can put in a pan or a finger in action yeah that too but still it's just you know I it to me it seems a little bit too accessible for anybody else I want my wallet sitting in my pocket I want my cards to stay in there and I want them to come out only 1i is this your old person threshold it might be really something you're just gonna be like no no this bar no further i'm not doing i won't try it for sure but it went when the chips in my high end credit cards don't even work in half of the places i go to to to pay for stuff i don't imagine this will be very ubiquitous trade like for a long time well if the magnetic stripe emulator thing works well then you know very oh yeah fair enough i right yeahhh mister what about Erica how do you feel about this said the Samsung pay potential I haven't had a chance to you can try out the Apple pay try to went to Whole Foods and it said oh you have to you know updater install the app and that was as far as I got so that's going to be the mortality right there like the moment people say to see that they're gonna be like I'll just take my card out and go yeah so i oh was i was in the same boat and then the other day I left the house without my wallet okay and I spent the entire day on the town without my wallet how'd you get here uh we rented here X it hahaha but no I got around town because my public transit passes on my ring and I had my hellos and I had my keys and I was like whatever and then like two hours later I'm hungry I'm like I gotta get some lunch Oh cancel that order i just made her done on my wall but if I'd had mobile payments set up on my phone I would have been fine and that made like that sort of turned the tide for me a little bit I understand that's a rare circumstance and a lot of people leave it or well so no but it's like oh well this is an option I could have had yeah if I was living in the future like I'm supposed to be but without your wall you didn't have your ID either yeah that's true can really put your ID on your phone I mean you could scan it I guess we that should be the next thing there you go be the next big thing I hope so but then the other phone yeah but then it comes down to what at my phone's dead when I need it right well then you need a yotaphone and the idea is on the back when at all time there you go yeah samsung also made a big deal about their battery leadership today sweeping out of the rug notice they have so much to say about how they charge their batteries but they never talked about we have the biggest battery and yeah that was never the case so can we hit the bad stuff first and then end on no there's get the negative nancies another way yes what's the capacity on that on the new batteries and so less than this less than the galaxy s6 active josh is holding them now which is 3,500 3,500 3000 Willie empowers wreath enjoy it smiles up yeah but that's down from 30 to 20 on last year's no night and then 3200 or whatever on the note before that or whatever it was in 31 so they've brought it down below all of the notes in perforations and put in a display that is as high resolution or higher than any note before which a display that I think is responsible for the poor battery performance of the standard s6 although I haven't taken your temperature on this Erica what's your what what kind of better left you get on your sx this thing don't ask Apple it go boom and we get 5 i'm very very fast yeah I give people to hit me on Twitter all the time being like I'm I get six hours screen on time for my galaxy s6 edge of my where's what now there's anybody get six hours on any phone i don't know i don't yet know on the one plus the first one I did get six hours though I was harassed with the battery life different really no okay well the mingoes is special I did I did analyze this with a couple of our buddies at the event today and they did tell me that you know if you live I live on the side of a mountain it's constantly looking for southern now I can kind of see that music yeah absolutely but even then I'm trying to take steps I'm trying to lower the screen brightness like constantly which makes my eyes hurt turn off the gps at all times by the location assess the most i've ever gone is four and a half hours on this one plus two that's the most screen on time you've ever gotten that you forgot yeah okay it lasted more than a day because i don't look at my phone for more than you know right how much I need I'm a normal person but but for a half hours is the most i've ever gone a vessel to you you know I there's so many variables it's really hard to pin it down I'm trying right now I'm spending a week without the facebook app installed which I always had or its associated apps like messenger and like that right now it hasn't given me the awesome battery life that I was half expecting but whatever but anyway I think I mean we're concerned about this 3011 per battery pack but there's still the adaptive fast charging and now my favorite thing which erica doesn't care about exactly and I don't know how Josh field about it is the the wireless charging with the ambass wireless fast fast proprietary world astringent so is it proprietary well those are all very different those are all very specific looking charges they had at the at the well they just play a regular puck I don't know well I landed but I excuse to guess I'm saying yeah I'm really hoping that fast charging is not proprietary because if it's not and that's nice but there are so many chargers on the market that how do they ubiquitous if you will that standard that being said two hours of fast wireless charging means that you need to have your phone on there for two hours and that's just not gonna mess you're in a quarter no three thousand million power battery yeah exactly i would rather plug that thing in on a even a moto quick charger have like half battery life in half an hour be done sure you know that's that's what i would rather you know take a shower plug that thing and take a shower you're done right yeah and i get it i think it needs to be faster and i think they are leading the charge on this they did deserve the credit for them because it start somewhere right okay it's faster wireless charging that we have currently they're saying as thirty percent fest or we'll see exactly how much faster it is once we get to get to spend some extended time with these things but that's included it's still PMA and she which is nice what else are we looking at what else we're forgetting your TouchWiz they did they've got some kind of youtube based periscope competitor that i'm not really sure is it's not the same some of our YouTube move do you think I reeks of a samsung yes I was on because on the one hand you have like YouTube gaming coming out trying to hit a twitch right yeah but this doesn't feel like a move that YouTube would be you know it doesn't need sams exactly it was like a samsung move for sure yeah just like seeing looking at the the the landscape and saying not necessarily saying what I think is the more useful thing which is what can we improve on but instead like what can we do placate me copy which is the weird front though we don't have to talk about the implications now but for samsung to say let's make a periscope yeah it makes sense where YouTube to say that but doesn't really make sense for Samson right yeah yeah I thought was interesting and I sort of expected them to go into more detail on it but they spent maybe a minute on and on stage and then they sort of moved out it was look it's my event that's it yeah and you know what those videos that they were showing during that presentation 64 million views on that on that video about what was in Times Square they're not gonna happen hey I'm really supposed to show you how Samsung doesn't really understand you too I will say maybe the universe my i would i would like for a year a year from now for us to go back and listen to us me like mom man that thing totally took over what's it called I forgot I didn't live broadcast like palace called yeah oh you have to rename that if any way yeah I think pretty much is it's the video mode but the video button now says live on it yeah and it just and it just immediately broadcast or whatever and you kill was your date okay I set up yeah that's okay though Souter's periscope right a man and I think periscope needs needs some competition there so maybe that'll be cool we should talk about the the other phone on the roster the one that was supposed to be isn't this so sad that you're doling it deals or the other phone yeah writing that note 5 thing yeah we all knew too much about you yeah the links were spot on right yes I feel like I played with it already such a depressing part of our ladder right now yeah you know exactly right not weren't the three of us will all of us in the industry we're not allowed to be surprised anymore yeah and that's that's really sucky but that does mean that when a company doesn't manage to drop the bomb and do it right then it's really worth it it's really something special yeah that's good but the note 5 is what best described I don't how would you how would you describe it to UM the s6 big with a little friend erica in essex with a pen yeah pretty much yeah s6 edge+ with a pen it is essential question I mentioned this in the birds on the back yes exactly and then it was as if they took a spatula turn it over and say hey s6 edge plus i mentioned this in my in my vs video between the no.5 about 4 and what kind of perplex me about this new note device is that in the history of samsung the note device tend to take what the galaxy s device of the same year kind of failed at doing last year was the s5s band-aid design here before that and was the poultry battery and the the fact that the s4 which is kind of like yeah whatever you know um and a note 3 was amazing the note 4 was amazing at three hundred seventy dollars for a lot of sales at the after the note for right now grab them right now but the thing is another five for the first time ever it followed the lead of the galaxy s device it i will say this i was thinking about this on my long train ride today I agree with you up to a point but I don't think for the first time ever I think the first note followed the style guide of the galaxy s and then they get the note 2 was essentially just an inflated s3 okay with a lot about it features but but fair enough yeah fair enough I did not start in this industry until the note 3 yeah but nobody i was thinking exactly the same thing and i remember being so taken with the note 3 and 4 in part because exactly they got right what the s the galaxy s had failed to doing that being said this year I you I would make the argument that the galaxy s6 didn't need a whole lot of fixing on the physical side of things I think it's gorgeous I love it I think it feels great in the hand you carry that's yours is it yeah i mean god it's beautiful every i compared over the one close to you the other day and I was like it's it's it's amazing it oozes quality for I got the deepest scratch I've ever gotten on a smartphone except for them don't know how yeah if you happen to shoot it with it with a projectile weapons uh-huh it's not gonna be a great fight yeah I didn't do anything but I promise yeah but I mean so they could have chosen a worse starting point versus my is my is my devil's advocate position but even the presentation itself glossed over all of the specifications that were already here from the s6 necessaries when the presentation was so short yeah because they can just duplicate the presentation you already know write books okay yeah here's what's new same what is it what is it same 5.7 inch butter to sue Bramblett same for gigs of LP ddr4 ram same LT category 9 Sam sounds dope a 16 megapixel camera with new video stabilization three thousand million power battery thirty percent faster wireless charging what am I missing the new that new video stabilization I had thought that they were using the digital image stabilization and the OAS at the same time were they not or did they now combine it in a way that marries well that seemed that latter point seemed to be what they were trying to say right they've enhanced the software side of it so that it works in concert with the optical stabilization better okay well I'm excited to try that because everyone who is rubbish at this point yes real time warp stabilization basically so well if you hold if you do way if you do say for example the oneplus 2 and the s6 side-by-side and sort of spin them around and walk around a bit you can see the s6 doing its job yeah but better so i mean i don't know i'm i'm fairly impressed by it at this one but in any case what about the s-pen it is the one thing now that makes a note a note and I liked I liked one new feature in particular kyllikki tom is very good that is normally what I would have said but no not that the Wow no I like the clicky job so that listeners have you don't know the thing you can do with the new S Pen is you you push it you push it in a little bit I don't know how to say this without getting weird but you are here yeah you you know you press it and it mechanically pops out like a what is what is that like like a ballpoint pen yeah yeah but a clicky something yeah so a little bit of gift comes out and that's what you pull it out and then when you do that what happens is if the screen is off formerly with the current note you pull the s-pen out the screen comes alive and it does whatever you tell it to do like Action Center will pop whatever with this one like you pop the s-pen out and you can immediately write in the screen it's brilliant it's great it's really really good it is so smart it is if you pop it in it saves automatically you don't have to hit the Save button right so you pop out the s-pen make your note pop the S Pen back in the phone shuts off and saves whatever you we didn't even hit the home button at that point it still saves it in any case it saves it ah I just think that okay as awesome as it is dry school as that future is it kind of predicates on the idea that the person would already use the S Pen in general I think about the user who never yes ma'am I get the note you can get the s6 edge plus or plus whatever maybe this is a good question now is that question going to be asked this year because previous years it's like I'm never gonna use the S Pen should I get the note yeah do value a big battery and a better build and whole bunch of stuff like then yeah get the note but this year it's like oh it's the same thing except it has an S Pen so is that is that the lone differentiator now looks like it are they trying to pigeonhole people to get this line now or what is yeah because that's really it well they're really just trying to shine a spotlight on the only features that make these two things unique cuz otherwise you have you can't have a note 5 without the pen no you can't you know so really what can you do you make crimped edges that's it right why not why not continue its legacy of the of this sort of power users refuge and keep them my crusty in the removable battery Erica and I were talking about the removal better in the walk up here like how useful it could be yeah in my case but you'd found yourself never using it right yes I complain but I really don't have anything complain about because I don't use the features anyway never exchanged the battery don't ever use an SD card but I'm angry I'm still angry fix for I did the same way to i don't use a replaceable batteries as much as I ever did like the only time I ever did was with a Galaxy Nexus but that's because that thing lasted for like 40 minutes and that was it yeah it sure did right and but expandable storage is not something that I harp on until they run out of storage and to be fair with even 32 gigabytes I'm pretty good at keeping things pretty smart yeah I'm not gonna lie okay so okay yeah but you're not the type who shoots 4k video a lot because I have a camera for that right these are being pitched right is 4k cameras and somebody behind me i think sarah maybe it was flo who's sitting next to me said like what are you going to do to do what are you gonna get a 32 gig phone or a 64 gig photo shoot a lot of 4k video and then what just upload it to the cloud every night yeah i guess you could do that you're going to run out of local storage space really quickly well someone on our youtube channel did say like it is everyone forgetting about OTG and like yes everyone's forget yes everyone's refresh dress that's the USB dongle you plug in the USB port so you need to have you have a two way connector one goes into the phone the other side as a regular USB connection you put a flash drive in there and just transfer stuff out as you need to right it's not only cumbersome it's an extra piece of kit you need to have with you yeah so you guys lose those things it's not connected to the thing I forget it it's gonna get lucky dad if your phone doesn't have a table the notion just struck me that we're talking about videos we've uploaded erica is going to upload some videos later on I soon yeah in any case and I we're talking about these people in the abstract but why don't we see what they say normally this is a live show folks we're not doing a live show this is just this is pre-recorded but so we don't have the Q&A but let's look at the comments on my one of these I don't know it was one of the hands on its does it really matter then notifies lucido 5 let's see Apple pay Samsung paying that it won't be available in the Netherlands only edge 6 plus this is the note 5 which is a peculiar move to keep it out of Europe you have so much bezels why in the world can't you just throw in a set of front facing speakers yeah the speaker has been moved to what to the lower bottom just like it looks just like any iPhone gives you a happy I kind of positioning the iphone standard position Melvin born toe and expectations always hurts as Shakespeare said smiley face now when we gonna talk about your Shakespeare brother but uh what you're saying is no memory card removable battery no kid and actress don't kid a few directory as text as they really should make the note 6 a power user phone again same point I think a lot of us are making so they would have a good looking s7 edge plus for those who want looks and a powerhouse with big removable battery and microSD slot for those who love to note for I asked Erik on the way down here do you think Samsung is prepping such a device or have they given up on this segment entirely it's really hard to say I hope that they are hope they have something up their sleeve and they're just Shh kind of pushing the note out of the rug and just like guys with Nintendo what they're doing they're going to have what what is this new Nintendo thing they're releasing maybe they'll have a no and new I don't know power user or something yeah she's right it's hard to say but the reason why also is because I understand is naive yeah I've said it a few times but that's just how the consumer will perceive this changes oh the Essex came out they kind of liked what they did so they just kind of made it the note 5 this time around you know but I know it's naive to say that because honestly these design choices and all these choices that I made of both devices were made probably like one and a half years ago and then you they were going to make this at this point so we don't know what they're going to have in store for the seven six or seven rather than six best second I do tend to question that a little bit though I mean that's always what the manufacturer comes back and says right when LG this is a plan for a while so yeah blame us right LG was like will use the snapdragon 808 cuz we'd always planned to for they'd for the g4 this was planned years in a fencin yeah this is very likely trim put in my conspiracy hat on but look at the s6 and then look at the look at the essex edge and look at the s6 edge+ and tell me that a company with the resources of Samsung can't sit back for a second look at I don't know the iphone plus or something and say oh man that seems like a good idea you're right lets you know tool up those production lines real quick can you just build that factory real quick what's it going to take two weeks okay build it and then make this thing like you know coax it into existence I think they can do whatever they want now that's info have looks good thanks I appreciate it well what do we miss I feel like there's been there's been a little bit of it's been a funny kind of show I mean they're these are great these are great looking devices we don't know price yeah right we know release date yeah yeah we order crazy today pre-orders today it's after 3pm here don't forget the pre-order exactly can I tell you guys that I'm actually more excited if right all right now I've been talking so much what would you pick Erica if you had to choose one of these you have to choose one no no the note because well I hope I don't fry myself here but I don't really care for the edge because of the glare that I would see on the edge and I don't like the bit of color shifting on the sides and I just I liked the flat miss of the the note 5 and that's why I went with the galaxy s6 instead of the edge i have both but I can't bring myself to use the edge also because it's uncomfortable in my little hands and it's too edgy for I like flattens just because where's the pledge is because but but you don't never with you that s pen is not playing any role in the decision for you not really you just said you like the screen off member though I do am I gonna remember to use it maybe maybe let me jot down your number and then half an hour later why didn't I type this I can't even recognize my own handwriting it's all about that keyboard I know oh god horn accessory oh my god talk about that yes so listeners have you missed this it's um samsung appears to have taken a mold of a palm treo keyboard from 2007 and made a case out of it it's pretty bad it looks okay did you guys get hands-on time with it yes okay I didn't want to touch it it doesn't look like something you want actually um we tell us how it felt it's strangely clicky it's almost satisfying but not quite so it's click there so there's mechanical feedback on the button is there so it's not just little nubs on the back of those buttons that are giving the on-screen keyboard when you shake when you take it off and you look at the back of it there's nothing I was like oh nothing oh so how does the ways of bluetooth no now Lou tooth they say that there's a sensor and somehow it knows by touching I guess there must be something underneath the membrane that's touching and it knows very sensitively what it is it's touching it I wanted to know more but they couldn't explain how it actually functioned do you expect them to yeah I said people behind the tables no no yes right right there is this there is a sensor inside of it and so I thought it was interesting how much is that thing no age 9 95 Wow I'm trying to look up the price what you are you serious oh right well say sorry I'm trying to look up the price on on the pre-order site but it's it's throwing an error when I do so they have a final esxi josh same question to you oh yeah yeah at a node 5 or s6 edge+ 105 yeah the note 5 solely because okay so actually you know what let me change my answer I don't want the note 5 active that's what I want the note 5 active ok lamin out there's got to be some sort of variation to these two phones if they're this similar to what we had before mm-hmm and like I say we there has to be not because I think they're actually gonna do it because I want it yeah I don't want an active version i want an active version that has i go like like a thick pin is just going to say we talked about the way we've talked about this for three generations now there's always been this rumor that probably some Joker in the corner somewheres thinking up and thrown out there's like there's going to be a node active this year and i've always had the part of me that's like you like oh that's exciting sounding and then the other part of me going like why would I ever do why do they ever do that why would they take this like making a luxury pickup truck all right yeah why would they take this thick phone and make it like five point seven inches but you know to be fair if there's thirty eight hundred million powers in that battery then I'll picking it up right away but if I had to begin between the two then yes the note 5 yeah the note 5 because I would actually use the S Pen actually enjoy using the s-pen when the no more I used it as a pointer usually as a mouse yeah this is a trait i love it was great in the note 5 I it has okay if this is always the case when we first get or hands on the phone the note 5 actually made the note for field cheap and I hate to say that because a note for it actually is one of my favorite phones of all time but the reason why is because it felt heavier the glass the metal right ah but you know once once once I got out of that that ain't media pre-show sort of like I you know this new device I'm gonna love it no matter what I thought to myself man enough for such a good deal right now yeah I bet they're gonna sell it I bet there's gonna be a spike in those sales or at least moment very calming of the reduction as people like flock to the last the last power users fast and even then the s6 edge I used for quite a while mostly because I was the version I was given so I was using it for a while I love the camera everything was really great about it I thought that the phone was really stellar Lee put together but that thing after a week after it was gunked up with my personal Boyles that's what is it that's for me the titles in show what i would find personal oil after after the slipperiness kind of became a factor I was always afraid to go drop that phone oh yeah oh yeah and there's a lot of it I held the s6 edge+ today the s6 edge big is I'm gonna keep going yeah and I thought to myself it feels good now but two weeks from now not yeah I've never dropped it thank God you know actually know what I dropped at one time but it was like like a very tiny drop i really think i won't i really think i'm gonna drop it eric has got a bumper case on hers yeah I had the active so I'm just like it well one time I actually like said this is my beer and put my phone in yeah yeah yeah somebody has to see my active once and I was like I'll let me just clean it off for it I'm put it in the restaurant water oh hey wait why my place while reporting beer with a phone in it I got tequila with the worm in it yeah for the beer with all your personal skin oily you know I think I would kiid I've been I've been a note fan for a bit but i think i would take the s6 edge do you know why it's the worst reason ever why different yes to be a contrarian okay but no more importantly the silver titanium shade that the new s6 edge+ comes in I'd seriously we used it for the develop comes in in two okay doesn't look as good okay it's so gorgeous I mean that and they've managed I will say this they've managed to make a phone that's huge not feel so huge in the hand fair and when you couple it with that silver color that they haven't really used on any of their phones since they were making them plastic and covering them in like nail polish nail gloss really um it's it's gorgeous it's a beautiful phone so I would take it just for the vanity so you will for the vanity yeah okay so i would flash it around and Austin I was gonna say do you like seeing yourself in your phone yeah I do it's very important I need matted I like you know I like Matt cover set just I we don't have that choice yeah yeah you're right i use it all so all right what's our final thoughts on I eric has to go and are you just never gonna return out I don't know I like the new note sure yes pretty the back is nice once I get a chance to play with it we'll see because I was not so convinced really at first with the note 66 m 6x well you haven't really unit but I ended up really liking the s6 seriously yeah that's that's all i can say i don't want to judge it too much i don't want to be too negative do you think they're gonna sell a lot well they're not selling this too well with the s6 it's true the edge kind of throws a curve so to speak and in the whole ecosystem for them yeah i mean but i don't know what the sales numbers are like I know they're not meeting expectations but they're still selling to be clear they're still selling in Essex is no selling but steep edge that is breaking expectations is it the edge is the one that everyone is demanding which means that when you take the s6 in a vacuum it's not selling as well as they wanted hmm but the edge yeah I just was making it up given that I think the edge the edge is very smart and I think people might receive the s6 edge+ better than the note 5 honestly that might be so and I think you might be right just in terms of branding I think people have been conditioned now to expect the plus the plus gentleman is like oh it's like I was like the iphone thought oh I can look at this and then when you pick it up I will say when you pick it up it's impressive I don't know if you guys agree or not I I thought at first feel yet I'm telling you a month from now yeah gummy oils not what about personal personal oil what am I here or they did Josh what do you think um you think they got to move a lot about it well I'm sure they will it's just the way that is gonna work which one is anything i move more up dead only or the edge yeah i did think of them award the edge because it's something that's different the note 5 that they can market the s-pen all that they want but the typical user was walking around New York City right below us right now just walk around never use the pen yeah do you think the note is played out no I hope not but it looks like they wanted to at this point yeah it's true doesn't good way to put it no would you feel the same way if they didn't release the s6 plus edge yes the other one alongside like what if the note was released in a vacuum I mean would it be wait would it be cooler I would feel that way if we did it ok let's right this way if it was just the s6 and then the no.5 if we had no edges at all all right then I would be excited about the moon life it's because we've already had the edge we've already had it yeah we know what it's about now it's bigger I just think that I think it's cuz the note has lost its identity a bit like what we were talking about before yeah well they did just massacre it so it's like they had to have something that took two steps above like the s6 edge+ and then the note took a couple steps down they kind of pushed it under the rug said by the way here's a bigger thing because to life so here you go yes can we go back to the galaxy s line being disappointing can we go back to that world Yeah Yeah right that was that was easier to understand yeah now i think it was interesting i think the samsung that we saw two there that i saw today reflects a samsung that is agile and actually learning and adapting because just in terms of their presentation you know there were some cheesy moment to others and dumb jokes but their presentations are they have honed their message for the audience that they know us out there i don't think anyone was walking away from this event today going well that's soaked because it didn't it was well presented there were tons of phones for everybody and everybody was reasonably well-informed everybody knew what they were going to demo like it was it was well run or not tap dancing kids running like that right but it does but it says a lot but it says a lot that the that the presentation itself didn't want to repeat anything that was good about the phone that was from the s6 already right I just told you what was new and that was it yeah it says a lot yeah there was a discernible lack of bombast yeah Erica's gotta go Erica say goodbye to everybody hugs Erica this was awesome this is gonna be great radio you're gonna listen to hugs goodbye see Nick more touchy roles yeah really okay i guess a play safe trip we'll see you at the next one oh yes that was erica griffin technology nerd who likes to film stuff is that the first time you had on the show I know she has been on the show before but we had massive technical difficulties huh so we didn't have hopefully we didn't have those the counter still running the clock is still right oh and the clock is still running on our breather room extend a zero hours 2 minutes remaining I will extend because I don't hate me my my outro is longer than two minutes little 5 p.m. what time is my train anyway Josh yes we've talked to the Samsung stuff a bed listeners that mean you may have felt maybe that was a little bit on the heavy on the negative side I think we struck a kind of an okay okay balance but I don't know I want to make I think that I think they're good phones I just don't think I'm just not blown away the way I usually am from a note that is it says essentially the tone that we're all gonna have that's what i was thinking you know cuz that very sentence that I said the beginning of the cast was the note line for the first time at least for me the for the first time took the lead of the galaxy s and with that comes a lot of pros and cons maybe a couple more cons than pros and really that's the tone that I think a lot of our coverage is going to end up being like and I think a lot of the comment commentary from from readers and viewers is going to be the same and you can loss over all of the like the super vulgar ones yeah we have plenty of radio there's more guests Samsung does want us to be wall huggers small useless battery no expandable storage blah blah blah blah no room we'll battery nor expandable memory that kills the note 5 for me I am sad and angry these are all comments listeners from from the YouTube from the hands-on it's a shame you know even even the note loyalists or actually upset and that says a lot honestly it has a lot about this phone yeah well um we're gonna we're going to be talking about a lot more so no sense dwelling on it now there's another phone we have on our table and what I hinted at in the intro for the for the last little bit of this short podcast is is a device that does what i discovered the other day does a lot of the stuff the samsung galaxy s6 does just you know not as well but three hundred dollars not as well i don't think so yes we have the 1+2 here i have one josh has one we are phone twins for once never carry the same for their yeah that's true but we will you mr. captain two phones with your second phone that's it my bag along with the fifth and 18th phones I want to do what's your second aside from the 1+2 uh there I am what am i doing oh no you know I don't have one I'm cheating yeah this is a dual-sim phone my juice isn't fair enough ah so that's been handy I'm not going to come back to this later if I don't say it now so i will say that yeah this is my first time carrying and using a dual sim phone with really sims okay so I've a review dual sim phone before I just haven't used both Simpson okay this is the first time I've been like okay t-mobile in one slot AT&T and the other this phone is set up to do it so let's see how it does it and it saved my butt today how's that because I was in the venue that for the samsung event at Lincoln Center Liga center and they had no freaking reception on t-mobile and I was like well I need some data I let me just go into the menu and swap over to sim 2 oh look at that i have data the question yeah okay you have tmobile and ATT yeah does it say that they're both eighteen t yup reports it does not report the the carrier strain accurately exactly and how long does it take for you to swap data from one to the other the first time I tried it it really did a reboot I couldn't it wouldn't do exactly me too but then ever since it's been fine it takes maybe 30 seconds to do to execute as well I guess I'm impatient because I feel like it doesn't take 30 seconds for me and I'm what I said in my in my video showcasing the new features of the phone was if you're going to swap the sim data because the calls and texts seem to be like that really quick yeah we listeners you can select where you want each which does it what do you want the simpson a call it's a three-day times if you want to change which card is handling data I would say just switch it and then we started fun just to save some time yes that's what I was obviously that's funny because no I for me it's it's quicker than a restart now i can swap between the two and and watch it work for a little bit and then okay now i'm on the other network so that was very handy for me I did do some research and find that some commenters asked they were like oh does the dual sim eat more battery I'm like initially I'm like now look what dumb question I didn't say it in my head I was like now of course it doesn't that's foolish I have no idea where I got that opinion from because with very very cursory research i found out that yes indeed dhulian phones do incur cuz as to keeping a signal tone sure but i was thinking like both there just to subscriber modules it's not like you're adding another Radio to the phone right now but if you're using it with two different networks apparently and this has been proven time and time again that yeah there's certainly if you have like let's say text and data on one and it calls on the other certainly that's going to make it yes I can see that but for me like I only did it to switch between the two because I've I'm kind of over on my ATT so I move over to t-mobile sure so when I get the notification that said you've used ninety percent of a teensy I'm like okay switcheroo um but yeah if you're only on one card at all times I suppose it's kind of a minuscule change but when you're using both the same time for sure yeah so let's talk about it like other things on this phone how's your fingerprint scanner been on the 1+2 i chalk it up to the fact that i don't know how to press this thing properly tell me yeah tell me you're the only other person who's had this time there's two two factors number one I don't think I press it right because I'm treating it like a HTC capacitive key or it's like Oh a very tiny impressive the very tip of my finger will be able to trigger it never the case I have to push down cover the whole thing like I'm suffocating the thing in order to make it read my fingerprint so like touch ID yeah basically um but on the other hand I I don't know maybe it's just I have tried thumbs it does it miss Reed does it prompt you to scan again um okay i want to say yes because i've had instances where i have to press two or three times right reposition my finger to finally get it right but even just as a home button I feel like I'm not hitting it as well as it should be so sometimes you press it and it doesn't send you nothing it doesn't do any nothing yeah do you sometimes press it and it vibrates to register touch but still does nothing no I ok mine does that yeah so yeah it's intermittent I think that they're still working on some stuff I want to say which something I said six times in my last one plus two video this is pre-release software yeah so we're due for at least one more update before the release yeah I don't know if it's gonna come early enough yeah you know what I mean like cuz i know i was just something I heard I think manual controls in the camera supposed to be a thing yes yeah I heard that too yeah yeah I want to wait for that but who knows one's gonna come in right I'm just like that fixed to happen but those you know those little bugs aside with that button this has been this is performed really well yeah I agree and I'm not really surprised I guess I was conditioned to be surprised were you surprised Josh that a data phone powered by the world's most hated process performed by arguably the most hated company yeah honestly no I'm not very surprised because the reason why is that the one plus one has continued the one I'm saying the one yeah has continued to prove reliable I've given it to multiple people to borrow up until the two came out and I needed to take it back into comparisons um and they have all said that their performance has been quite good like for example my girlfriend she she used to one plus one for a while with my my bamboo backing and she thought it's a very very reliable decent phone on the daily and then when I had to take it back i gave her the alcatel one touch idol 3 which comes in at a very similar price point yeah and she's like i missed the one by this one so much really she really misses it so I thought to myself you know as someone who's into in the actual industry is hard for us to really pinpoint those experiences for ourselves because we're bringing on the one hand were very critical blonde the other hand were very tolerant because we understand sure you know what I mean absolutely so knowing the 1+1 performed amicably and the fact that has a 299 price points like I give them a lot of props for that so when the 1+2 came by and proved to be just as reliable as I can of course that's what these guys do yeah despite oxygen OS being what it is you know like I wish there was more to it I wish was more talks intro oxygen OS than feeling like a Google now launcher it is very basic from what I understand I didn't do the 1 plus 1 i've never i've held it my friend has one and when he reviewed it for us so you were not spoiled by cyanogen 12 no I understand centered in 12 let you do all kinds of customizations of stuff an oxygen OS is very much more consumer-oriented the exactly so I don't problem about you know why so my god this is great this is like stock Android it lets me customize the accent color which I did too and the dark theme in the app permissions it's like an M preview I mean it feels I feel ahead of the curve oxygen OS whereas I feel a lot of people who use the one plus one with CM the cyanogenmod field like oxygen OS is a step backwards it's a for lack of a better term like a dumber OS ya allah to vanilla yeah which to me is like if one plus is trying not to be vanilla then they didn't really succeed with oxygen that's what I was just thinking obviously with with the phone I feel like yeah with the hardware it's great it's I like it um I don't think that cameras very attractive I think that that design could have been tweaked a little bit but did you notice them how you you're not covering it anymore ah i did not i mean so be that earlier i guess in the 1+1 the camera was located very closely so I oh yes so whenever you would hold it your finger would get in front of the lens is that what the deal was exactly i see so now it's like you can actually hold it kind of like a camera like yeah and possession oh well I'm position it a little bit better you know yeah but that being said the camera and so like a hawk got the camera all right tell me you're a camera experiences with the 1+2 quality not actually as bad as I thought it would be really call it quality was ok well low-light could use a lot of work there are very specific reasons for that oh I asked can only go so far yeah if the shutter speed is over 1 over 30 mm-hmm for all the pictures I took in low light okay I commend you for going for low ISO to keep the noise low but if it's one over tenth of a second do any little movement that the Oasis is screwed right yeah it's not a magic like exactly rubber band rig and that also said the app itself does have some trouble with speed it's just a reskinned a google camera app isn't that it feels like it yeah yeah yeah and you know especially when you have the slower shutter speed already adding to your time from shutter to file right shutter two files already not that great in the beginning it felt pretty good yeah but over time it felt so much slower today I try to take a picture I try to take that I took I try to take a picture of my glasses imagine it took it took so long yeah and to the groaning of everyone add my table like yeah real that's our experience too ah yeah I reiterate that i wish i was at that table that sounds like a fun just really too bad you're leaving tonight I know oh yeah you have an important disco tomorrow um what I'm still thinking about about the various things that I have covered it well you said that you loved the alert slider which I'm cut yeah it's great you think so so there's an alert side of listeners if you're not familiar with the one plus two on the side of the phone that lets you switch the ringer on and off basically but it also has a middle position for the third Android priority notifications level I think it's great I think I loved it on the palm devices i loved it on the iphone i love it on this I being able to just reach in your pocket and if you're not wearing your Android wear device thanks for calling me out like that do you have a smart I have my pebble time on you didn't actually know if we had more time we should have like made up the fact that okay listeners we were supposed to do the work with you again I'm co review but we have get them at the same time we did it no I think that's like but anyway um I'm pebble time and if I have my phone on complete no interruptions everything comes to my watch I don't need to worry about I just leave it at the no interruptions Irish sure um but I really have a moto 360 and if I don't remember to put it in theater mode and I'm at an event like we were at today in a dark room and I get a notification like I'm gonna blind the person to my good but they're not know I will admit though like if I didn't have my pebble time and again android where does tap into the interruptions like ecosys Aikman yeah it's just a way of doing in platform yeah so I agree with that you know my fellow time is a kind of a specific type of situation sure but that being said yes once in your pocket you can feel the texture of the slider and then this we just move it over I agree I don't know if you notice but the two phones i have on the table right now 1 plus 2 and Galaxy s6 active they're the two phones that are the only phones and Android that have extra inputs we have the alert slider in the act of it's not the only phones on andhra that I've actually no true but there's a the main ones get your right there either a rare breed there are rare breed yes and you know what I will say the active key I would take over the alerts letter you would take the ACT acute because you can program the active key to do whatever you want exactly there are certain applications like if I'm working out I hold the key to go to my my fitness tracker right where I put in my reps in the way that I've been lifting and then if I just tap it it's for bill guard i use that to track my expenses nice easy when I had it I had a long press to go to the Action Center so I could have the flashlight and a lot kind of stuff and short press went right to ingress cuz the Gauss guess it is the best phone for ingress in history nice yeah that's the thing we need new inputs and Android and yeah if one plus is going to start this whole you know notification slider is what I keep calling it yeah notification toggle rather then that's fine too but man I would have loved the note 5 even more if it had a key ok if ya not if they had to be called active key you know the fair fair enough to believe that the s pen comes on and you have 3 no 2 3 shortcuts right there right in the air command mind you sure yeah well you can I do you're gonna tap and back like yeah no it doesn't fly the active key to me needs to be a samsung trope so let's let's remain with the theme of the episode i want to tell you go buy sell 1 + 2 y i want to talk about USB type-c in a second but no no let's let's remain with the name of the episode in the sense that let's recall that this is a half a samsung episode and let's put ourselves in the position of a buyer right now it's coming up and back to school season I don't know if that informs your view or not but you want to buy a phone you're looking at the most hyped phones right now in the space assume you're aware of the of the 1+2 because it's you know I feel like I feel like some people in the real world know about it yeah well I've seen one plus one in the wild have it yeah I don't think I am but so assume that assume that it's known the galaxy the samsung stuff is certainly know what what do you pick now we talk about these two are in this we're talking about the one glass tube or one of the new Samsung devices announced today well there are so many different people that would go into cooking at split this way I would love to say that i would pick the note 5 as a college student yeah they still don't let use your phones in class is that true I last I went you know like I do you like that's not sure if you're like my own collagen collagen even when I went to school there were people who would sit next to me with the AT&T tilt the HTC tilt you know the windows mobile thing that would like prop up like I think and they would use it in class names like oh I'm so envious that they could like you know take notes and also like AOL instant message on the sly yeah I feel like that that still happens i guess it's just my experience because I I was a communications major with an English minor so when I when I took a Shakespeare class out in london for study abroad for a few weeks I know what I did that I i I'm kind of a slacker in the sense that you know I can get by I'm one of those guys I can get stuff done an hour before class when those jerks right and I was I was good with writing assoc creatively at the time yeah that you know I could do that so I would come to class without paper just sit there and if they really wanted to drop out jot down stuff at the time at a blackberry bold I would just type in the notes yeah I just do that and I got a's on every test but i think because i had my phone my teacher gave me b-plus so no doubt that's the kid that's always texting exactly i could get him out here I still feel weird if interviewers like taking notes on a phone cuz I'm like I always have to say like I'm not texting I'm taking notes oh yeah well taking it to the fact that you think that you know phones are okay in class now yeah okay fine then no one seems to be the ideal choice for college student is select for that a poor college student right then the poor Kyle should think about this you know we I feel like we are so far ahead of the general populace and I don't mean this to toot our own horn I mean a quite the opposite way we are so far in the future because of the line of work we're in we consider this whole buying a bone and full price thing to be a foregone conclusion don't yet doesn't everybody do that or contracts or so yesterday but no I think the vast majority of people still look at a at a contract subsidized phone and say the notes six or whatever then what do we see today the note 5 no no they I know if I was gonna be it's gonna be 299 yeah that seems like a great deal how much is that one plus 2 329 well I've made my decision you know the fact that you would have to sign up for a two-year contract yeah I know I always have to do that who cares I'll do that we are in the land of the creditors absolutely yeah so I think that that there's that consideration and I think if I were in the position given the choice between these things I think I'd take the contract hit I you know yeah that's a good point and contract this kind of award that we're not really using anymore because even verizon is don't know why contracts you know now well what's now eiman plans i guess yeah the deferred whatever though yeah installments I could see that happening I mean there's technically what I'm doing with my Essex active but only because the Essex I yeah I one next oh yeah I'm not doing the two-year contract how about that yeah so those are beautiful okay oh no no no I bought it my sand when I've reviewed it yeah I bought it right after yeah that's how much alike that's what I do with the Moto X anybody go guy like I ship him back and I'm like right send me another one the thing is I didn't look at the Moto X's this year so like I don't know I have to draw you weren't there I wasn't it was long oh yeah cool I was not expecting that to be the response everyone loves that day yeah Oh like who you know wrong payroll the old I don't know what they need to let me do with this s6 s6 active and that's rooted because though there's one common denominator and every phone i've ever used that has actually been slow and that it's a carrier specific device every unlock device i've ever had I've never had problems with performance wise Oh care for software yeah exactly I don't want a page full of 18 tu stuff I'm never going to use know so the thing is like there's I know that on some level that's not really the problem yes lollipop has some brand management it's just blah blah blah right let the common denominator with everyone I've ever had has been carrier issue so what do you think what do you think about the 1+2 as it relates to the 1+1 in many ways these phones there are so many thumb at at commonalities between the Samsung stuff in the oneplus stuff because the commenters on all the 1+2 stuff or like flagship killer 4 2016 this isn't even a flagship killer now a lot of people are taking umbrage at one plus as positioning of this thing and saying it hiked it too much because it's not gonna live up to it I anything I think as someone asked me after who who has me I don't remember but if someone asked me while we were out the Essex the notes the day what is going we are both lists I had the big event at the big event that that they asked me what's your one sentence review of the one plus two solid hmm but not a flagship killer so if you want to feel like you have a flagship get the 1+2 but I just hope you don't have phone interview for things like want HD for heard right for stuff like that but you know like for pure performance oh yeah of course yeah yep there it is no its way up there and it's really great and you know if we want something different than yeah it feels very good and solid thank God they put a screen protector on here cuz I gash the hell out of it already can everyone stop rubbing in the fact that I thought that the Imperial protector was a piece of frivolous packaging I'm so happy that I didn't take it off as I'm so close to doing so and then since I'd to shuffle so many phones today for the no.5 in the Essex side oh yes I'll let you guys have a couple phones doing that in my bag yes I forgot my phone carrier this is great if ever is this scintillating everyone this is inside baseball yes to the enth degree it to the point though the one plus two is it's probably the only phone this year aside from the s6 active because it just feels so solid that to me feels like the premium upgrade that we were waiting for and for the price that it has i think this feels really great for a 385 318i telephone i think dr. really great it does i think my objections are mainly it you know it's a it's a more common from when you look at it next to the one plus one yeah one plus one had a design that immediately caught it I caught your eye it had that weird underbite that sort of ran around the the center of the fund that metallic mid plate that caught the light and glinted and the the the camera looked better and I think as a result of building a phone like that I've heard or read that one plus had manufacturing difficulties with that they couldn't scale it as rapidly in part because the design was not as easy to make so this is an easier phone to build from from what I understand from reading some teardown stuff it's also very rigid I guess you could say because imagine the style Swamp covers at the end for the 1+1 it actually was the show yes here you're gonna have some a medal no matter what yelps gonna have that one little panel on the back that changes and that's it yeah yeah which yeah trade-offs and everything right I just love the fact that it's if you get another Snapdragon 810 phone and by the way here's where everybody calls me out for you know getting paid but Qualcomm which you know i don't but whatever um i love that there's another Snapdragon 810 phone out there that's gonna piss off everybody who likes to run seven benchmarks in a row and point to the thermal throttling let's be honest to batch rocks tomorrow yeah and said look at the throne what a piece but that in everyday use at least for me and in games and in everything else is indistinguishable from any other high-end process remember I said this earlier I'm a normal person and as a normal person this thing has not overheated word yeah this thing the galaxy s6 gets hotter than it because the galaxy s6 is thinner and made of glass and metal and at least in my in my case that's a good point the s6 edge definitely got hotter than this one 1 plus 2 ever did yeah and it's a matter of constructions I mean every processor gets hot everybody yeah that's a whole different help say you know the top half of the phone gets like a little you know it does give you can't heat it up you and play smash hit for 20 minutes on that I play ps1 games on this thing manly nice yeah that and I started getting into UFC so I'm trying to like play UFC and it was only with those two those main instances that I kind of got a little bit of warmth a little bit of the sizzle but if anything I'm putting on my face I was like nice when is the next time we gotta get outta here because our breather is expiring by the way everybody you need it this isn't a sponsor spot this is just like cool like if you need a room for an hour in New York City or Boston or whatever download the app breather it's good this is this is the very homey like it feels yeah it's a couch in here Edison bulbs and a nice wallpaper there's the magazines on the wall they give you all the information you need to get to it also yes the email was like you know show your ID go up the elevator find Beowulf go and it's all done through the app and it's nice um but when is the next time I'm seeing you are you going to give up yes thank goodness and if i'm not mistaken email we're going to we're gonna be um no not for that for droid calm oh no no no darn yeah if flow was trying to really Artigas yeah but it was too close to you very close together so you already there yeah i'll be a drink huh okay are you on the panel yeah nice one yeah i'll watch this I'll watch whatever hopefully you put on YouTube hopefully yeah but other than that would be if you'll be the fun and I know you responded to the email we're gonna have our good old trifecta of collaborations right together and be back on Nicole Scott's and Sasha Palin Berg's and all of the mobile geeks team the live stream I believe a tifa and we'll be climbing the ferns a term together nice again and yeah reporting a bunch of stuff there's gonna be some cool stuff at Aoife I just learned okay some that's that's the term though yeah do you think we'll see the Samsung gear s2 Danna's gotta be this is that what they said today really they said soon the only thing soon as Eva but yeah whatever so maybe we'll see their watch there we are also going to see some other secret stuff that I just found out about today that I'm not supposed to know about so I can't talk about it you know about it I'm sure but everyone else cannot hear about it yet so that having been said I think we should get out of here yep because the breather is going to I don't know what happens when the brazier clock runs out maybe we get paper that's another problem Josh thanks for being here man yeah thanks for everything again please every time I can do it was a pleasure every single time and I can't wait to have you back on the a podcast suit as well yeah I'm sorry that I can't do that today about school josh is everything okay we've all got have to do next time we are in the city together i'm going to show you my new favorite bar yeah it's a shame i'm going to Boston to it alright well folks we're gonna continue this conversation yeah cuz that's gonna do it rhythms of the pocket a weekly produced by contributing editor Jules Wong tweeting puns about moi raised at 13.0 also be sure to find that hosts on the twittersphere josh is tweaking fan selfies and coffee tips at JV tech team you know the bch DEA foresight and i'm sharing em track sunrises and shady sub tweets at captain two phones captain the number two 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