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good afternoon good morning to some of you good evening to all of you as well this is a I'm every benefit market now we are at our editorial round table for WWDC 2015 which just ended a couple of minutes ago there are a ton of things to talk about and as always we're pressure good time we're going to try to keep this under 30 minutes so that you can all get more coverage as obviously iOS 9 the Developer Preview is already live right now a whistle on developer preview is also live and you can that were downloading that to be able to test it out and give you full coverage and all the content and on and on the updates that are available so let's just start with a little roll call to our contributing editor mr. higher our human how are you sir I'm doing good do good awesome awesome we also got in the black miss sure our editorial director mr. Michael Fisher how are you well I'm wonderful hi may I have excellent internet speeds and a wonderfully expensive computer and even a sound booth but google hangouts well doesn't work regardless so that's why I'm a glowing orb on your screen good to see you everybody but we can't see you so it would be good to see you to see you and our Chiefs new at chief news editor mr. Stephen Schenk how are you sir I'm excited to talk about Drake and only about a Drake so I hope okay look let me try to understand i was i was meaning to ask you are you a trick fan i only like Drake as the actor on Degrassi which I am very sad to see he's going off the air after 14 seasons but apparently makes music to these days it was I am NOT a Drake fan but I I am aspiring to be and my son is in front of me he just looked at me funny what's wrong I mean I mean how can you not be a Drake fan after the performance today he was so eloquent on stage he only used as many words as he needed and it was so succinct to talk about his life experiences and say nothing that was amazing that was really amazing but that vintage jacket was pretty sweet we all want to live it was yeah yeah there's no denying that okay so disclaimer guys since we are so short in time please give us your q and A's we would love to hear what you think and we promise we'll be able to cover you know as many as we'd like mainly because of our difficulties right now but you can bet we will try to do as well as we can and if not we've got a ton of coverage later this week to go through these so why do we start with mr. Stephen shank let's talk about OST sure Apple led us into the event and wasted no time at all I jumped right into the desktop side of things the next version of OS X its building off that Yosemite name from the previous generation giving us El Capitan that big rock formation the primary focuses on the el capitan announcement were about performance and the user interface and Apple first started telling us about some of the UI changes it's going to we're going to get to a minute some of the iOS 9 stuff with the split screen view but split screen was also a big part of the desktop experience here and how you arrange apps on screen Apple talked about the split view to allow side-by-side interaction with apps and if just getting two things on screen at the same time isn't enough for you you're going to be able to set up these things called spaces by dragging apps up into your mission control bar you'll be able to group them together and sort of have like a virtual desktop experience switching between them there was a lot to cover here talking about little you I things new gestures and certain apps like in mail deleting messages multiple messages at once cool little stuff like shaking the mouse to me wiggle to see where your cursor is will get bigger become a little more visually prominent we're all over the place here we saw the introduction of the the new notes app and that's going to be on OS X as well as on I believe on the iOS OS X you'll use to gather together information from multiple apps is dragging stuff into place dumping it into notes and you can see reviews as a checklist and go back and make sure you're getting a tasks done it you need to a UI changes we're all around talked about like spotlight you've been able to resize the window spotlight itself is getting a little bit of a feature tweak learning to pull information from data sources giving information not just about content that's stored on your computer locally within your apps people to pull up things like news and weather sports scores sort of think we've seen from virtual assistants in the past besides the UI changes a lot more I'm brushing the surface there we heard about the performance stuff in general you know it's the latest and greatest so we should expect things to be faster more responsive Apple talked about upload times transition times between active apps is being improved in particular and a lot of this some of they got very Deb focused so it's not going to be as interesting to you know more non viscous user-focused people out there but metal okay already heard about last year WWDC for iOS is going to be front and center with OS X El Capitan metal gives developers very low level access to CPU especially GPU hardware allowing game to do some very impressive things and we're probably doing these impressive things while not making the system crawl to a halt as a result us we'll be seeing metal baked into the OS so general UI is going to benefit from this switching away from OpenGL towards metal so to improve draw times to screen getting away things will look smoother more fluid and you can all appreciate that availability they just make you working to try to get our hands on this ASAP it's starting today as the dev preview Apple introduced it's been building upon a public availability of previews iOS just made that big step forward earlier this year but it was already around the desktop for a while and I was going to continue that with El Capitan the public of beta won't be available until a little later this summer and then finally by fall everything we ready to go live for everyone of course free upgrades to existing users and we're going to be learning more about this in the weeks to come as we play with the dev preview of elevate ourselves we bring you more and more news about all these improvements changes and great things look forward to now tell me something is it just me or that Apple borrow a little from Windows 8 and now and everyone's Oh what the whole snapping of windows all around what do you guys think of that look I've been downloading so many tools on both my max trying to get similar functions like the snap feature so I'm just really glad to see that that's finally making its way here see I really hate that snap feature I I like to drag my windows so they they're mostly off screen and sort of like a virtual desktop that's bigger my actual screen and when things click into the side I find it distracting but at least is there as an option or if you guys like it he'll be here built into definitely wanted if you wanted a sample of some world-class trolling all you have to do is follow Adam doubt on Twitter every single thing Apple unveiled it was like wow this was seen on another six months ago or two years ago radio that's like from the nineteen I don't know I I guess I have been so frustrated by OS sent over the years that I've been using it over the way it handles windows that I'm actually happy that they did this update because you never know what size the windows are gonna pop up whereas in Windows it's always been smarter to do it and that's my opinion so maybe there is a little connection up going on here but it still seems like a worthwhile improvement that Apple users will be happy to see dr definitely definitely another major update that got announced today and we were definitely waiting for it was iOS 9 I was nine it brings a lot of major changes to the core OSS foundation and it focuses on three specific points number one extending battery life number to improving performance and number three enhancing security but it also brings some added intelligence Apple has really neglected Siri over the last couple of years ever since it was announced by us six and then just completely ignored or sorry not iOS 6 but with the iphone 4s years ago um Siri gets a lot of major improvements with intelligence throughout the UI without compromising privacy Apple made a big issue about everything that's between for privacy but for example they're mentioning that it's forty percent faster when it comes to responses it also hasn't tracked the responses like for example you could tell it you could ask a detailed information like give me information give me the photos that I took in Utah three weeks ago and it'll give you those specific photos on your album which is extremely cool so it is also contact sensitive once you get a response you can also dig deeper within and keep asking silly questions out of it this context feature has been existence in not since iOS 7 but it's getting better with iOS 9 another thing is that and I know that a lot of you're waiting for this yes it looks like Google now and the fact that you can now swipe to the left home screen yes even I know I could see you there you're doing that you can listen they're all wasn't that already in iOS 6 or something couldn't you already swipe left into directly into the spotlight search or something with it it ended with iOS 5 I believe ok ok then when I was 5 so it was something that came out with iOS three I believe it was and then it got removed with iOS 5 and so now it's back and then for me it was a smarter idea but what up the reason why I'm saying this looks a lot like Google mouse because it's proactive so you swipe from the left it gives you your frequent context that you always contact and I apologize for the knows everybody I'm at a coffee shop because of power integrate yeah you're doing your power and you're doing great honey my size but yeah so for example it's proactive and things like giving you contact information giving you place information from wherever you are for example if you plug in your headphones it'll give you the option to start a playlist you can automatically add compounder information if you get a male appointment which is something Google now currently does and for example Turner is also an API for search which is really cool so this allows third-party developers to use the API and give Cirie different commands to be able to provide you with information so it's just being called the proactive feature it's not really I don't think that's a final name I don't know if you guys felt it that way but that's that's pretty much what proactive is I don't know if you guys have any insight on or thoughts about it yeah I mean I think it's so it's very important that Apple get proactive right it looks like this is one of those things that that that Apple was doing playing some major catch up on because Google was so far out ahead of this predictive intelligence graphing stuff with with Google now that Apple really needed to come back and kind of hit hard on this and it looks like they have if everything works as well as apple says it will which actually is you know i mean it is possible Apple tends to Apple does release stuff that works as advertised a lot of the time then proactive will will sort of level the playing field i also had somebody on twitter mentioned to me very helpfully that this can index the device whereas google now cannot which is sort of helpful in a way that's a generalized way of putting it but it's helpful in terms of like hey read me that last text which you can do on Windows Phone you can do on iOS but Google now we'll just sort of stare at your dumb bleh unless I'm thinking okay get somebody remind me what medication is proactive because hi Otto is asking you to get Neutrogena what the hell is that okay yes that's like an acne medication right it's one of Mandy Moore and uh right no wonder you know about this stuff I Otto you're still in that phase oh yeah dick burn but anyway it's like a me there's a lot more with iOS 9 first of all what Steven already mentioned the nose updates we're not going to go through that but Apple maps gets updated uh this is also applies to OS 10 it get it gets public transit it gets a but not for all cities they're only 12 cities to start but this whole Syria active thing digs deep into Apple maps it allows you to get contact information and what's cool about it is like for example if you want to come if you want to commute through the subway and you ask it for directions it'll give you walking directions and it will tell you if you will arrive on time to catch a train for example which proves to be useful it's something we're gonna have to prove something else that's new is Apple's new it's a new application it's got a couple of publishers it's even got free articles from New York Times which you have to pay for uh it's it's adding a lot of curated content and yes you can bet we're going to figure out a way to get on Apple news just to give you another option to read our content the biggest update to iOS 9 was really iPad uses um finally Apple brings different improvements the iPad and I'm surprised that Apple didn't do this for the iphone 6 plus but for example uh because I don't know if I'm if I'm mistaken but I have been really so so for example you can now multitask on the iPad you can now you're now allowed to have a split-screen multitasking and at the same time this works in real time so it works pretty much like sands and tablets only the advantages this is dug deep into the OS so you're not limited to specific applications being able to do this apparently you'll be able to do it with every single application that allowed core layout as part of the developer tools so it really prints on developers but I'm sure that they'll get on the wagon immediately if they've already adopted auto layout and size classes than the yeah just wrkn require go another thing that's there is fiction picture video surf example you're playing a video you can just snap it out and watch your video as your as you're doing something else which is really cool and the only problem with this is that sadly it's a only going to be available on the iPad air 2 and comes to the side by side snapping you can pull out your notes application for example from the side and write notes as you're doing things but you won't be able to snap things if you have a if you have an older iPad and I'm surprised that the ipad mini 2 did not get the the ipad mini with retina display the newer one didn't get this feature it seems that it's only available in the ipad air 2 right I wonder because of the red isn't the mini 3 not have the land 512 it no I thought the mini 3 I thought that's the minute gigabytes oh I see what you're saying okay that's the difference in yeah that's probably it other word that's that's all right you were just saying like that video snap feature is so so compelling it on your when you get a notification in a video and you tap it in the video just auto minimizes the fact that that is going to work on all of the almost all of the iPads is is a turtle working on four of them is the problem air air too many 82 and mini three yeah yes oh yeah three way split here with iPads that can upgrade to iOS 9 those that get the side column and picture and picture and then just the air to getting the full on split screen yeah yeah that is a bit of a fragmentation thing yeah that's true exactly another thing that we're getting with the ipad keyboard and I find this to be really cool is that now you can turn the ipad keyboard into a touchpad so you can pretty much navigate I just I didn't see a mouse cursor anywhere in the way you can navigate by using this as a track that you can select things really quickly and just it turns into a gesture keyboard I really can't wait to give it a try and I know you're gonna be looking at this in your in your video Michael tomorrow with a comparing it comparing it yeah are you are you doing a hands-on I'm doing the hands-on you're doing the the comparison with with Android app with Android M yeah that's right thank you that's gonna be really cool so yes everyone we have a lot of coverage coming up other enhancements with iowa's and I'm going to try to close us down quickly we have improvements battery life we finally get a low-power this is something that I phones at needed but have desperately not had for the longest time apparently the battery improvements on their own give you an extra one hour battery which is grateful give it a try and and this low power mode apparently extends your battery up to three hours other things like for example two steps of authentication for iCloud are coming for security and even better what software updates you will now not need to start deleting applications to have up to four point six a good bites available if you have 1.3 gigs available on your devices you'll be able to apply software updates immediately so the developer figure is out today you will be getting a consumer preview in July and you can expect iOS 9 by later in the fall and that's all of iOS 9 anything else Wow slow clap knows a lot of material to get through there have a nice work we have no time to stop and reflect on that sadly i think is it my turn to talk about the watch yes please yes please go ahead very good well Apple kicked off its discussion of watch OS 2.0 with a retrospective of the App Store there have been 100 billion apps downloaded from the apple app store 100 + 1.5 million app titles total exists in the app store apple cited a figure of 30 billion dollars paid out to devs and an interesting figure from the video ninety-eight percent of all fortune 500 companies have an iOS app so Apple once again reminding us of how important their their app store is to them and sort of everyone else Tim Cook had a great quote he said for us this is a giant moment this is how we felt when we launched the App Store and that was in 2008 and this is of course referring to the apple watch we believe in technology designed for the wrist in this notion that apps will somehow legitimize the the notion of the SmartWatch is something that I'm going to be thinking about next week and maybe writing about we can talk about it on the podcast as well I want to divide this into three categories things that should have been there already things that are actually pretty cool and some new developer access so things that should have been there already coming in watch OS two point O native apps formerly the watch had to rely on the phone to run the logic portion of the app which I do a lot of lag and sluggishness whatever we're going to move a lot of that a pelagic from the phone to the watch in this version so lag be gone probably should have happened with version 1 because then it would have saved it a lot of bad reviews with laggy slow apps on the watch new watch faces will also be available including apps where you can watch face where you can put your photo up there and you know your photo album let it cycle through photos not terribly exciting but good to have it there time lapse face as well if you take a lot of time lapses developers can now make their own complications so you can show your flight time show your home entertainment system and status your car charge status or an electric car sports scores you can put all those you can add those to the already existent complications such as you know whether sunrise and sunset times and all that kind of stuff put it right on the face where you want it to go on the face and it'll be a variety of faces will support these new complications so they'll be also be a variety of templates still not it's going to be a while for the Apple watch to catch up to the variety of watch faces on Android wear but and pebble for that matter I think but it this it's always good to have more tools there those one-night stand mode when charging this is all still stuff that should have been there at launch if you ask me but you can stick the thing on its side and you've got a little alarm clock face and what when it's charging you know that's great friends you can add a friend right from the watch you can reply to a mail using your voice FaceTime audio support comes in alongside phone calls and now the transit app updates will also hit the watch to so right on your wrist you'll be able to if you're a mass transit user like I am you'll be able to see transit times and departure times navigating step by step and so on those are the things that should have been there from the beginning I thought things that are actually pretty cool new feature called time travel that'll allow you to when you're looking at your watch face rotate the digital crown and shows you more if you rotate it forward it'll show you calendar appointments that are in the near future if you rotate it backward it'll show you appointments you had earlier today and earlier this week and all that stuff it'll also move all the other complications on the face so you spend the digital crown and you can see what the time will be and say Barcelona not just now but in six hours from now what the temperature will be then and so on in addition to that bedside mode you've got an alarm lock and when the watch is lying on its side if you don't have a charging pedestal for it which it's boggles my mind that Apple hasn't built one of those the winners lying on its side its buttons are up top so these digital crown becomes the snooze button the other button becomes a off button which is cool Siri triggered glances say Siri show me the Instagram glance which is pretty cool the wallet view will make its way to the watch as well Apple pay support well that's already there but now with the new well at view it'll all come together into a nice little other reason you don't have to pull your phone out of your pocket which is the whole point and you can now connect to you will be able to connect to known Wi-Fi networks automatically that's the kind of the rundown of the the two main categories of stuff and finally developers will get access to a whole lot of other stuff and watch os/2 to build way cooler stuff they'll get access to the watch speaker phone bluetooth audio video playback health kit access home kit access accelerometer access all that it's going to be in the dev is in beta today it is available for download to devs today the beta version it'll be available in the fold everybody fo free and I'm really excited to try it out except I have to buy an Apple watch first cuz hi Mei Yu of mine where yours I know I know but at least out of everything that was announced I'm literally looking forward to the health and fitness updates particularly because if you're not using Apple watches or Apple's own health and fitness apps everything is just terrible like Nike+ is terrible everything is terrible and they will now be able to create in applications that don't really rely on the phone which is great really right oh yeah having that bad man is to the heart rate sensor data should empower some interesting new apps to all right yeah procedure baby go ahead good I'm just I'm just really excited the digital crown is getting more action cuz i do think that's one of the hardware elements of the watch and it didn't really under you so far and I'm really glad they're starting to leverage that for more stuff I heard them announce that a beyond you see Michaels eyes lighting up you know that's right ya know the Apple watch is bringing a lot of cool stuff but Apple decided to finish things with Apple music how about if you run as quickly through that hi out yes so Apple music is I basically it's it's going to be a new subscription service kind of taking on services like Spotify with a pretty similar price tag it's going to be ten dollars a month for the one user subscription and then it'll be another five dollars a month so total of fifteen dollars can get you up to six people on the same account so everybody can you know you can save some money there and versus Spotify where I think the fifteen dollar plan is just to users and with Apple music you're basically getting access to any of the music on the iTunes Store as well as any of your own rip cds and then there's the new feature that they're introducing called beats one which is basically a lie of 24 hour radio service where they have curated a couple of that they've gathered a couple of the top name djs across the world that just kind of put together these stations they host a couple radio shows there will be some exclusive music some interviews with artists and things like that going on so sort of a little public radio kind of thing going on there and then they're also introducing a kind of read reintroducing ping from a couple of years ago in a way and basically it's going to be a platform where artists can upload exclusive things to the service like say their lyrics or some photos from the backstage and when their shows and fans can you interact with the with the things that the Irish post on there so they can share them across social media they can comment on them and the artist can reply back so it's just a little interaction between the artists and the actual listeners themselves so a lot of a lot of the apple music idea is just to sort of make music a bit more accessible a bit more social and then also just to give you a bit more of a human sort of a mix instead of just giving a shuffle system like iTunes or Spotify does there's no there's no virtual radio it's the all the stations you're listening to are actually being handpicked by these djs and the Apple music will be launching for iOS devices june thirtieth coming to android devices later i said i think they said this fall and windows as well i believe and windows as well and this is going to be their first this is gonna be apple's first android app actually so they'll be kind of interesting see not sure if they're gonna do anything like material design on there or maybe they'll just stick with sort of their own iOS style design who knows retinoic apple is gonna be iOS design it probably will be yeah yeah no yeah i know you touched on this before but this is the question that's been burning a hole in my head ever since they talked about this for a half hour on stage what is is this gonna tear you away from Spotify at you personally and if not why who is it going to take away from Spotify who's gonna sign up for this who's already using Spotify who's gonna ditch Spotify for this is there any other way I can phrase that question no so why don't you just answer I don't think I'm gonna switch away from it I obviously haven't used it yet so I can't say for sure but if it's the same price to Spotify and I'm already accustomed to it i've already got all my all my music and my playlist on Spotify I'm probably just gonna stick with what I've got I'm really happy with it and it works across all the sort of the different platforms and services that I use um but I think Apple music is going to be a really good way to get a lot of people to switch either from Spotify or you know for new users to choose Apple music versus Spotify mostly because it's it's got a free three month trial at the beginning so a lot of people who are still kind of shaky on the whole idea of paying a monthly subscription for music streaming then kind of get some exposure to that for three months without having to pay anything and also because of the family plan i mean like i said the yeah definitely dollars for for two people on spotify versus fifteen dollars for six people it's no I'm serious even even rhythmic wrote me recently he's like hey are we gonna have a pocket now like family account is like oh you know that's not a bad idea but yeah I mean I could see a lot of people doing that I mean six people for fifteen bucks is crazy yeah but that's that's a really awesome price can I just ask one more question before we move off of Apple music that the radio stations are going to be exclusive to Apple music there's going to be no way to get them aside from having an apple music subscription is that right now they mentioned that the beats one is going to be able even without paying for the Apple music subscription yeah I believe so and that's really that's really what I'm so the big question that I have left is okay is Apple views it going to be a separate app from your music application or will this music application would receive more functionality of you pay that's what I'm I'm waiting to see the beta to see what what exactly I think it's gonna be the latter because I've seen I saw a couple of little screenshots and images of the home screen before they actually launch the app and it just says music on there so I I doubt they would just make a second app called music on the home screen just kind of make it confusing i'm asleep Marcus can could be could be yeah but but um sorry anything else that's that you got left the only the only thing I'm wondering something I really like about Spotify and I'm sure there are other services like our do that probably do this as well Spotify has a sort of a collaborative way of making playlists so I can create a public playlist or just a private one between say my fiancé and I and if you know if I want to throw some songs on there then she wants to add some extra things than you know it's it's all going to be on to one list and I don't know if I haven't seen anything pointing to whether or not Apple music will do the same thing and I really like having that features that'd be pretty sad to see that missing yeah yeah and most likely Spotify will bring the heat I mean if Apple is allowed to drop price for family options and you know bring all these features then I'm sure because it truly is a cool service you know I lap I love Spotify it's it's I use it every single day so it's gonna be tough to replace it for me jmeter standing though I think Apple has its work cut out for it in convincing users that it has a more pure packed alternative than the spa defies and the Pandora's out there because maybe doing things a little bit differently or putting a spin on what other services offer but it still sounds a lot like we're hearing things we've heard over and over again yeah anyways any good helping of deja vu as well Stephen so I'm with you on that and guys we are clear what was the more the tribal that just launched a few months back a title title title yeah which is you know it made a big point we're doing things differently but everyone's hearing it sounds exactly the same and it's pretty much crashed and burned so well its twenty dollars a month most people are gonna pay that Apple better wake up there personally gentlemen can we we are running out of time so why don't we get some final thoughts of what are your impressions with your with the event what things that you lack most released and how about if we begin with Steven for me the iPad multitasking was the the biggest deal by far I know it been rumored for over and over by now but I still didn't really have it on my short list of things I really expected Apple to announce so when they did I was impressed the way that it's going to easily support software without you know this the way we see it I'm Android yes there are some multi window options available but they're just not very attractive because of the limitations involves I think Apple has really blown away the competition with the the broad support that apps are going to have for this even if the hardware support is limited it's only going to get better I'm sure the next generation of iPad hardware all of them hopefully even the mini included will support this maybe this might even be setting the stage for that you know plus sized version that we've been talking about forever but clearly as Apple Apple's establish that it doesn't need a 12 something Inc iPad in order to make this work so I'm really curious to see how this works in action if it says functional as Apple's made it out to be but it's easily the most impressive thing here nice nice how about you Michael yeah mine's a bit more of a tactical observation Steven sort of stole mine in terms of the the feature load but there's there's a broader one here which is interesting Apple is really doubling down and sort of retrenching in its in its positioning itself as the anti google it used this event to reinforce the fact that it you know it says it cares about your privacy in this sort of direct affront to to Google's information feathering tactics that have that that Tim Cook's started out I think a week ago at another event just just slamming google all over the place for for its perceived privacy invasions in specific it was talking about the proactive assistant which i think is one of the coolest things announced here and about how it is going to function much like google now but without associating with your Apple ID all the stuff will stay on device like Microsoft already did with Cortana and it'll stay on device is not going to go to the cloud it's not linked to other Apple services it's not shared with third-parties and your Apple ID it's it's random aight uses randomized IDs for sorry i just got distracted by an i am but the point is oh shut up whoever you are shut up it's me two to three some so yeah no no just just just another opportunity for Tim Cook to come out and say or the whole Apple team to come out and say hey you know those guys in Mountain View who sell all your data well we're not them and that's why you should buy our stuff and not theirs and I things can be really interesting to see not only what Apple does with that going forward but also how um consistently they're going to be able to deliver on that promise of being your new best friend for privacy's sake particularly after the whole scandal with the whole Apple ID links remember that so I think that they'd write up need to do something any wicket but anyways thanks and how about you high up on a less philosophical note I'm gonna have to kind of level with Steven there i think that the multitasking was sort of a blindside for me i really didn't expect that at all to be announced today so i'm really glad that they did that i was a very impressed with the implementation i'm also looking forward to checking out apple music the only thing i was really disappointed about today was they they when they showed the the new features with the keyboard I was kind of excited thinking that they were gonna finally add some gesture typing like swype onto onto the stock iOS keyboard because I've I had an iphone 6 for a couple of days and and was messing around with some keyboards and SwiftKey for iOS doesn't do it for me I don't like any of the any of the third-party keyboards I've used so i'd really like to see gesture typing make its way to just the stock iOS keyboard and it's it's still out there but you know it's a my our complaint I'm still pretty uh pretty impressed with with what happened today so I can't really complain too much and nice and you know actually I follow you on that take away to end with my final notes I guess we were expecting a very conservative iOS tonight and actually I find this to be ten times cooler than iOS 8 and I feel that it's even more featured pack that I'm Android am but you can expect Michael Fisher's full comparison acid tomorrow you're definitely gonna have a hands-on video very soon as well we have to the service or jam that's gonna be a little difficult but we are working on it addition you can obviously expect the pocket out daily with a full coverage of everything we saw today our website is already packed with as much news as you can imagine with all the details of everything that got announced and you can expect that the pocket now weekly will cover everything in depth later this week so we've got a ton of coverage gentlemen thank you for joining me in the show floor it was a good show it was a great editorial round table as well everyone thank you for your q and A's we apologize for not being able to cover more but we are a little challenge with time but again we have a lot more content coming up to cover up for that so thank you very much really appreciate you joining us and the follow us on social media we will we will be covering more stuff very soon see you soon thanks everybody I do