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guten morgen everybody I pretty sure I butchered that but it's also currywurst I'm well that's for everyone in Berlin including Jaime Rivera who is not on the show today because he is out gallivanting at Aoife in Berlin but here in North America we're left to be content discussing the 9 yes 9 phones that launched at Aoife and most of them came out even before Aoife officially began it's kind of par for the course but we have all of that news for you in this show does blackberry hold an icon that everybody wants is honor playing in the big leagues now is HTC shrinking away from us further doesn't Android one push makes sense for LG and Motorola how does Sony do with its first OLED mobile phone and is there vengeance for ZTE after months of dormancy there is so much to cover on this week's Aoife centric show we have specs and a few bits of other info for all of these phones so let's go ahead and talk about it on this the pocket now weekly hello everybody and welcome to episode number three 2-0 brought to you by pocket mount and xda-developers on this day Friday the last day of August actually 2018 from smartphones to tablets to wearables and so much more we're talking about all the stuff that you wish you had when you were a kid so let's go ahead and get talking I am your host for the weekly it is Joshua agar what's going on everybody and we have a couple of new faces on the show at least new for me in a way but in place of Jaime de Vetta who is out in Berlin and also Brandon minimun who has the day off we have a couple of our friends from XDA we're gonna start off with creative director Mario Serra Pharaoh can you tell me if I pronounced that correctly that's fine nobody can figure it out in the US it's fine fair enough now right when I got into the call before we hit the hit record on the live live stream here you guys were taught you and Jules were talking about a little story that we'll talk about later but won't you show our fans oh yeah I might be the first person to have a broken s-pen like this oh my goodness you know that it's uh that chrome II bit yeah so had a lady over she put a bunch of crap on her on my nightstand I subconsciously try to put my phone back on the nightstand at 2:00 a.m. after some texting and I couldn't find room for it so it just fell I'm like okay I have a case on it no big deal now everyone that knows Samsung Galaxy Note phones knows that when the phone falls the espen just ejects just the loss of physics always makes it just shoot out the SP shoots up okay fine I inspect the phone no big deal I can't find the s-pen okay where's the s pen and then I shined the flashlight and I see the chrome II bit I'm like oh no no it's not and I start cursing just like cursing cursing cursing and that didn't help things no have you posted this to the Tech Gore subreddit yet no I haven't I haven't it's old it's too sudden you know I'm still morning morning yeah I did make a very just one day delivery order for another one that's 50 bucks down the drain plus the expedited shipping so yep it's a it's available on samsung's website now you could buy it separately I bought it for Amazon so Oh gotcha okay yeah well we will we will pour one out I mean I don't have tea today because we're kind of in a hurry but I'll pour a little bit about for the s-pen but in any case we can also move over to our senior editor Steven Zimmerman and Jules usually makes the scripts for me to be able to follow and it says here what's good in the GTA and I learned something today you can tell our viewers Steven yes it's pretty good in Toronto it's uh starting a little bit chillier it's no longer 30 filling degrees out but it's still so myself the Greater Toronto Area I've never heard that before but when I go see my family in Toronto I'm definitely gonna say that from now on yeah yeah yeah you gotta take that trip up the Don Valley Parkway nice and you were just hearing our podcast Wrangler and the man in the production booth Jules Wong how's it goin Jules yeah yeah I'm doing good in the Greater Boston area and or the GPA it's the best the hub of the universe okay well Jules I have to add my hat's off to you like we do our best to put together a great show every single week Jules you had a lot of work ahead of you this week so we're gonna go ahead and just jump right into it we have a lot of stories out of and we're going to start off coming back out can I like can I just get out of this show like I'm not prepared actually for my for in my head in my heart it's just I like I'm a doctor has given me a note I kind of am NOT prepared either this is the first Aoife that I am NOT at in like probably five six years it's kind of a bittersweet thing because I mean just on a personal level I'm I have nothing against Aoife or Berlin or anything like that but in the grand scheme of all of the shows throughout the year I mean I told myself if I don't have to go to Aoife then I'll be okay it's cool like I'm not gonna really worry over it but I will admit all of the photos that Jaime has been showing over on his IG and his IG stories and and then all of these announcements I got I got a bit I got teeny bit of the FOMO going right now I'm not gonna lie so we'll start off with one of the any device announcements that happened we're starting off with the BlackBerry key to L II now le we originally thought it might be called light le could mean limited edition and it certainly feels like it because there are a few new colors of the BlackBerry key to let's run through the specs real quick it does Rock the Snapdragon 6-3 six it still has the 4.5 inch screen at 1080p resolution four gigabytes of RAM though we would love to see a six gigabyte RAM Edition one day in the future the battery is 3000 milliamp hours with quick charge 3.0 and apparently it's out now it's available on August 30th as it says on the pocket not website you can head over to see that story at pocketnow.com well well it's - because it was announced yesterday and it will launch within the next month so I'm not to mislead our viewers here or listen oh well I've already sent in my email to them and I said bring that red one over right now so fellas how do you feel about the BlackBerry key - l/e hmm well I certainly think it's more limited perhaps not as in like limited edition terms there are many downgrades to it that um almost make me sad because there are many things that I liked about the blackberry q10 kind of Rob's it of its executive feel by opting for plastic and then the removal of the capacitive scrolling on the keyboard that's like a signature feature of this new kind of the revive form factor right and then the battery downgrade which you know the key one is known for a legendary battery life so it it seems kind of a bit too limited if you ask me okay how many over there Stephen yeah yeah they definitely took a couple things and stepped down in the right spot spaces like the 636 into the 660 is a completely reasonable downgrade it's honestly not much of a graph now great too at all but they definitely did go overboard in certain areas it almost feels like it should be branded as a different brand not today you lose the key one name right the lack of that battery is really gonna have an impact on how it's used how its received and hopefully it doesn't knock it down too much Mario you mentioned the the loss of the executive feel like do you think the colors also contribute to that a little bit or are you jazzed about the colors so I'm kind of just because I actually really really like red phones like I was begging oneplus to release a red phone and then when they released the red 5d I was like oh my god this is everything I wanted and now they continue that with the red one plus six which is also beautiful for this though I almost feel like it doesn't quite match it kind of reminds me of like the approach the BlackBerry had in countries like in countries of Latin America where I would see BlackBerry's all the time and it would be like the cheaper BlackBerry's not like the executive looking blackberries but like the cheaper more plastic ones that everyone had because they were cheaper so it seems kind of that they they went back to the okay we want this semi high-end but not really executive phone and now we're also releasing these cheaper ones are more accessible more colorful have kind of more of a broader appeal but also in the process they lose a little bit of that special yeah I agree III I do think that there's a little bit to be desired with these phones but I think that was kind of the point I mean after all Jules any thoughts on the three hundred and $99 price point after all yeah that's gonna be a little bit more convincing for people who are kind of normal but also do you want that nostalgic blackberry keyboard some of the features as you've said have been taken away like the capacitive scrolling but I don't think if you know it's not a feature that was lost to many of the customers that would be would want to you know if they're approaching blackberry again for the first time in many years or they're just approaching it from an all-new point that is going to be something that they won't miss and I feel like in terms of what the spec combination provides here it's not much of a step down for the price that you know the we got at 6:49 for the key to and this takes it down to 449 if you really want to be you know well stop cheating yeah and also I didn't know that there was so much Pokemon go favors favoritism here in terms of a team valor if we're going by the colors red yellow and blue instinct may have been my color here oh yeah fair enough III think it's an honorable play from a blackberry and let me have my segways I think it's an honorable play by blackberry to create a version of their latest phone that is accessible to as many people as possible even if they have to cut things down a little bit the price gets cut down too which is which is probably the right thing for them to do in order to get into more hands speaking of honorable place we have also the honor play was announced at Eva now what we have here is another phone trying to blast into the gaming segment and as this advertisement is you're probably seeing on the live version right now it says it's crazy fast and crazy smart now the karin 970 is the processor but it comes with something called GPU turbo now my favorite part about the way the honor play well as sort of marketed is that obviously samsung was using fortnight as their game in order to markets the galaxy note 9 but in this case they've gone ahead and gone for the complete other side of things with a competitor and now this is the fun if you want to play pub G ma which is pretty hilarious and I think it's really awesome one thing I do like about this phone though is that honor claims that you can go for a whole season of a TV show I wish that they said what TV show that might be but apparently the battery is gonna be able to last for quite a while gaming segment phones and now we have the honor play in the mix how do we feel about the honor play you guys I still don't know what GPU to vote is yes I've message people from honor I've asked for a white paper they've sent me just a bunch of slides so it's just like a rehash PowerPoint that didn't really teach me anything that said there are some improvements when you actually get down and tested the 917 years a very capable chip and this is more of an affordable device as honor devices typically are so it's actually really you know it's a compelling package it's interesting that they're using pub G to advertise that it's actually very interesting and like I see that before tonight and pub G they're both being just used by everyone trying to push a gaming four on a phone that can do gaming they'll feature in their marketing material and stuff it seems like a very compelling package and at a good price big battery big screen powerful specs it's you know it the 980 is coming really soon so have a nice evany at the end of the cycle is perhaps not ideal but it's still for the price it's it's actually really compelling still it's one of those moves that helps the phone's stay as affordable as possible but I wonder if that the desire to keep an honor phone affordable kind of cuts it at the knees because for example and I'm asking you Stephen and Jules about this do you think that for a phone that's trying to have pub G mobile as its marquee videogame you have the 970 which is fine but then is it cutting yourself at the knees by having something like four gigabytes of RAM only 64 gigabytes of storage because these games that they're hoping to use require a lot of RAM and they also require a lot of storage space I mean I think Patti definitely is some it definitely is a bit of a disappointment from if you're hoping to have high resolution games with high low resolution graphics at the same time if your juice if you're locked into one application you're not really gonna be pushing up to 60 bytes quite yet you still can make by with 4 gigabytes forgive its I ran there via bytes of RAM Gabe it's with off you're not but I think they'll actually be ok with for you weights I just I'm more concerned about the battery the 3750 is big but it's not massive for the screen size for a similar screen size and for the GPU yeah it's about you know very powerful GPU it could be quite the Buried ringer yeah I know they said that they'd have the ability to watch a full season's worth of a show but that's it really GT heavy that's nothing coding right yeah talking about lost always said like first season of The Walking Dead which is like a mini episode yeah Sherlock something like that um one thing I find interesting here is that there's there's there's this feature that they have the 4d smart shock kind of like the HD rumble on a switch yeah in a way yeah well what does this even add to like games are not necessarily tailored for a vibration feedback to begin with so what would this even do for you I mean even with the need to have this sort of haptic feedback that's going to take up more of that - Henry - yeah you know just keep that going so and with the pub I like what else is it going to work with just pub G which I'm sorry that you couldn't get the fortnight partnership but hey the way to react with that but yeah like I find it kind of a doubtful I don't think it is necessarily have to have it in my hands to test it out because if it's not approached in a thoughtful way it's just gonna feel like some random shaking is happening and or maybe it's gonna be no I want to really hate this but it's like when you're winning if you have the rumble pack on or you're winning Mario Kart and then you get first place and then just starts continuously shaking for like ten minutes after you win yeah and then that's a pretty funny situation now one thing that I do wanted to touch upon before we go into our next topic honor has a pretty strong foothold in Amazon and apparently this phone we have no information as to whether or not this one is even coming to America personally again I think they're cutting themselves at the knees because honor is one of those sought after phones because of its affordable price point on Amazon yet we're not getting the honor play I mean pub G Mobile this is where pub G mobile lives here in the US so I'm a little bit worried about that okay so let's go and move on to it yet another company who announced another version of their flagship device a little bit like the way blackberry did HTC has announced it is now officially the u 12 life now naming conventions aside HTC does like to use the word life quite a lot and usually this means that it is the lower tiered version of the flagship device so what we have here is an F HD plus six inch display at 18 by 9 aspect ratio and this time the Snapdragon 6-3 6-2 Slyke in the key to it also has four or six gigabytes of RAM however and we also comes in storage variations of 64 to 128 the rear camera is a duo 16 megapixel and five megapixel shooter at F 2.0 aperture and the battery has a 3600 milliamp hours in its capacity now there is one thing that a lot of people have touched upon when it comes to this phone and all of the videos I've seen coming out of Aoife the fact that it looks very pixel like yeah I got that two-tone back and I don't even know is that glass at the top I'm trying to hit the create glass yeah ah just like really glass the HTC did like not really they didn't developer manufacturer I don't think that's the word but didn't they sort of build the original pixel so it kind of makes sense then they have this design aspect coming in did any of you guys use the life phones from HTC over the last couple of years mm-hmm no there's it was available at t-mobile and direct from HTC yeah okay they're surprisingly reliable I have to say like it's it's one of those phones that because of because of generally of the price point like right now we have European prices at 3:29 and 349 but if that translates to America that's a pretty good price and you know what for the performance I got out of the u.s. six gigs of ram for 349 euros like but there here's the question though like um where where is HTC like in the ashkelon of in the in the vast spectrum of smart phone companies where does HTC land with you guys cuz this is this is a question that I've heard asked many times everyone has different opinions and now we have HTC still making phones out Aoife how to help where do you where do you land on HTC right now mm-hmm well Stephen and I are big fans of the HTT ten we both do cell phone a while I don't know what Stephen thinks I've personally grown really the solution with uh HTC they've kind of moved away from some of the things that I liked most about their designs and that said if I were to judge it eh well do you twelve live in a life in a vacuum it looks really nice like it's got that pixel aesthetic but it's got this shiny glass cover and my only disappointment I don't know it's not an Android one device I think they'll be perfect Android one device you know I've been hearing that a lot lately Android one not being on on quote-unquote affordable devices I guess they're synonymous in a certain type of way but I've heard a lot of people say that if Android ones not at the helm of it and it's kind of you know there's a bit of a loss it's interesting perspective I've been hearing a lot lately Stephen any thoughts on HTC or the you twelve or the you twelve life well I mean the problem there is just pure worried about updates people don't want to be something some old soft version without the latest features without delays the ability to play all the whatever apps or anything that requires a new version that's it's a bit at this point see a low-end device that normally wouldn't get updates not beyond Adrienne one where my client updates right and H sees Austin as Maria saying she's spitting and Billy step back it's a ways from what they were doing before even with HT 10 which I use until the battery died there was there are things from the HTM 9th I missed it didn't have the motion eject the gesture to turn on the camera by just going the volume button and turning it it didn't have certain features and it feels like they were replacing a lot of those very useful features with things that don't really have the same usability do you know I'm squeezing your phone's you imagine if you're able to squeeze HTC 10 with those sharp edges those chamfer edges you just there she hit 10 had like the biggest chamfer the whole time - oh for sure you can call them champers their bevels there speaking of which the back in our chat for this live there are a few people who agree that the HTC 10 is a very fondly remembered device goran petrovic my 10 is still fine battery replaced two more years easy we also have ten-hut saying that the m8 he had the m8 rather and misses the boom sound speakers I kind of agree with that to be honest yeah I remember the first time I heard the boom sound speakers I was at the park and I heard this is very loud music and I thought that someone was carrying an actual boom box but then I realized he just came from a tiny phone I'm like oh it actually doesn't work nice yeah what was what was the mid-range version of their phones back then in the m-series was like the m8 mini minis and and they were really watered down they had the places they had the meaning the one the one that is interesting yeah [Laughter] alright so as is the as is sort of the trend at Aoife right now what we have are variations of already existing devices and LG is continuing that trend with two g7 variants the first one is called the LGG seven one which is an android one smartphone so there's android one coming back this one however is powered by the Snapdragon 835 has four gigabytes of RAM and 32 gigabytes of storage it also has a quad HD Plus display that 16 megapixel shooter on the rear and is powered by a 3000 milliamp hour battery also even though it is an Android one device it still has all of the features you would want out of a g7 apparently with the milspec and also a quad dec even has an FM tuner that's pretty awesome for for an Android one device it's pretty beefed up and then the other one is the g7 fit which when I heard this name I thought okay I wonder what we're going with this it's powered by the Snapdragon 820 one has the same amount of RAM a 64 gigabyte version and it doesn't really change the fact that they are identical in size what do we did fit this fit mean mid-range is like is that what we're going for normally yeah fit devices or something are the super durable extra water since device samsung s active series yeah you accused me of most about those the processor why yeah one do you have that many left over are you better off for this point your truth you press from scratch so why they 21 remind me real quick is the 821 the one that kept overheating cores 820 is a DEA pen Oh II did 10 that was okay yeah maybe they do just have a lot left over who knows but calling something that g7 fit it just really is weird and that 64 gigabyte version has a fit plus and it seems like they're really they're missing the market in terms of people who want like a rugged active phone in a way so maybe it could be plastic yeah hmm so you know what my speculation is on this is that okay so they launched the LD g6 with the Snapdragon 820 one because Samsung was hogging all of the eight thirty fives for its Galaxy as aids yeah that's the I think that was it and they basically but they they were like the last ones because like they were in like the phone the chipset launched all the way back last year and it was coming to the end of its like mainstream life in April which was when the LGG six launched so Qualcomm was probably probably like hey we have like 20 million units left have them all at this very discounted rate thanks very much so I feel like that was like the the period for Qualcomm and just LG is like okay what do we have to deal with these yeah yeah and Mario any thoughts on the Android one edition in this case I think it's great I think it might be the best Android one phone out there actually like the inner one has been relegated to mid Rangers but if you look at the a 35 it's still a very capable chip that's not at all for then any mid Ranger that I've seen an Ender one phone and you get the premium design you get the LG features it really depends whether they market this a safe flagship or very cheap flagship or like an expensive mid Ranger if it was an expensive mid ranger as opposed to a flagship of any of them the nomination I think that would be a good package because you get like my main issue with LG is always the software so having an Android one phone and perhaps perhaps just better updates because their update center hasn't done anything they've they've just talked to talk they never walk the walk so it could remedy some of my biggest problems with LG if it's done right so I'm actually I actually like it even with the outdated processor it doesn't really matter to me that much well there's always that software question but I think there's a good toss up in their chat here from DJ Jones I am commenting this on a g7 right now does that mean that we should expect roms that allow us to flash Android ones firmware on existing g7 so I think that might be a little bit of a stretch but if any of you want to take that that's a hell of an idea I think yeah I don't see why not actually I mean if I mean if you if you phones travel enabled and if you get one of those G sevens the lucky ones are bootloader unlockable truth be told I having kept track with LG's bootloader unlocking stuff just because it's been a mess or so long I possibly yeah you just follow the Fred Foley the Florham of your device and hope for the best and maybe ask around and see if anyone's considering developing that it probably really should have gone for a different name other than fit that's really the one thing I'm thinking here but I will give LG a little bit of credit if this is their ploy to move away from the thinkyou weirdness and maybe that maybe that's okay can you imagine if this was the LG G 7 think you won oh speaking of the term one being used in a lot of places apparently now we're going to have the Motorola one all right so after the introduction of China exclusive Motorola P 30 the International Inc global version was supposed to be the conversation moving forward and apparently the Motorola one may be the answer to that question now it doesn't contain too many of the specifications but what we have here is basically a four gigabyte of RAM phone with the snapdragon six to five expandable storage at 64 gigabytes 3000 milliamp hour battery along with Motorola's turbo power charging which is always nice dual camera system something we're going to expect pretty much in any phone moving forward even when they are mid rangers for the most part 13 megapixels with a 2 megapixel secondary headphone jack which is awesome and it is Android 1 even though it comes with the version 8.1 now there is another version of this the Motorola 1 power Wow yeah Motorola one power does have upgraded specifications this time it has the now common at least ID first Snapdragon 636 has the 4850 million let me say it again 4850 milliamp hour battery for goodness sakes it does get updated cameras but however this is not fully fully confirmed yet but it has a 16 megapixel with a 5 megapixel secondary rear camera and a 12 megapixel front ok maybe the main story here is the fact that the Motorola power even exist with that thick old battery yeah yeah well like he's supposed to have the day off today but freakin Brandon minimun has dropped into a chat I think the design of the moto 1 power looks gangsta plus huge battery double hearts over there so yeah like um there's a great combination going on with the Moto 1 power does that mean it automatically gets the buy recommendation over the Moto 1 hmm well the moto 1 is using a very crusty processor at this point I the 6:25 just keeps proving that it just won't die anything it just won't die for a reason because of that you know reputation for good being it's super that's true it is a very superb but I mean it is a battery superb just because it's got an all power efficient core configuration which at this point you know we've moved in a manufacturing process and we have da 55 which is a step up that said it's nice that I like I like that it's sporting such a nice glass design and a knotch screen which you know love it or hate it it is kind of a premium feature or at least it was a few months ago at a very affordable price it's almost very weird to me that there's such a design disparity between two phones at one is glass that's the outdated processor and that has a newer processor but it's like metal more like rock door or thicker and beefier I think they're both okay I think that the price might be a little bit higher considering that specs wise it kind of cannibalizes their Moto G line a bit but you know it depends whether they want to target the Moto G people and try to lure them would nicely the signs even though that last Moto G's had very nice it's nice - yeah Steven do how do you feel about Moto's direction especially under lenovo like for anybody quick shameless plug I did do a moto xiii review here at PocketNow so make sure you check that out but one of the one of the points I made in that video is that Moto definitely doesn't seem like the company we remember back in the X days so Steven how do you feel about now the Motorola one being the latest step in that direction so us it seems a little bit like they're trying to find themselves again they they're trying a whole bunch of different tactics they've got the ones line they've got the G line doing some different things they brought the X line back for a little bit they're trying out to see what they can do with the atom batteries and stuff with the aect with a dead lion they're going all these different directions it doesn't seem to have one unified path to it hopefully they'll find a good path for cuz I've loved some advice in the past but I'm not sure which direction they're gonna end up settling in yeah I'm a little bit skeptical myself because Motorola one the way that it looks the way that feels just sort of like the general feel behind at all it does it feels less moto and more Lenovo than anything else and I remember when moto was when they were excuse me when they were acquired by Lenovo I kept thinking to myself Motorola is what we're gonna get in the u.s. Lenovo is gonna be what we get everywhere else but it just kind of doesn't seem like that's been the case anymore all right so oh sorry go for it I am a little curious about the one power though I'm really wondering how thick the device ends up being with that battery cuz we've seen some ones that end up actually not being that correct I mean you'd expect it to be thicker with the larger Barre but we've seen quite a few times where some of the really massive battery films in it being only like 11 12 it no one meters thick so I'm curious will end up being that way cuz I haven't seen any hard specs for that it's true yeah I just got a funny image in my head of somebody just holding like a power bank and this is my phone this is not even a screen oh boy okay so from Motorola we move into Sony and Sony always uses Aoife as a as a wonderful place to just announce some new phones whether or not they actually make it to a lot of markets remains to be seen half the time because Sony likes to like change up the phones a little bit when it comes to the carriers in the US so we don't know what's going to happen with this particular phone this is the X z3 also naming conventions be damned we have the X z3 right now this is this is without a shadow of a doubt a flagship level devices snapdragon 845 a quad HD + display with the triluminos and the ex reality mobile technologies underneath yeah before giggle I believe this is their first OLED bravia OLED : yeah yeah oh that's awesome so it's triluminos and it's peel that so it's probably our our bgb doesn't refer to the three colors that they're using it per pixel on LCD sub pixel every I'm not sure actually especially well I think it's just branding from show it's just like this stuttery mid point that I'm just exacerbating for the dramatic effect yeah just forgot what the branding came from orginal yeah they're just continue to use it even though it's yeah yeah that's true well one of the one of the interesting things with this latest Xperia device and and I think I think it was Jaime who said he predicted it and he was right that the latest Xperia phone that would be announced would not have that that massive 48 megapixel sensor you know in this case we have the rear 19 megapixels motion I so where would we where might we see that next IMX sensor I mean I'm just wondering where that might end up going we might not see the phone it might be an it might not be used in a different type of device that's and just never amania me you never actually end up seeing usage in phones yeah they do canvas other they itself a security can't really stole them for all my other applications it'll be see what I did happened with it yeah yeah I mean we had the what what was that the the 4k display on one of the previous experience and that kind of didn't go anywhere yeah I mean do current I'm not your you are ISP guys so would would the spectra even be able to handle that much resolution um I'm actually not sure I think it should be able to handle it but you may not be able to do really fast burst or anything like that right it may require down sampling like the Sony's used to back in these at three days yeah so just for to clear things up here the snapdragon 45 has Dule 14-bit ISPs and support for a 16-megapixel so that's photo 32 megapixel single camera okay yeah so so that's that you know that's often uh they're often some bottlenecks that people don't associate with the sensors themselves such as a data transfer speeds or like lately they've been doing embedded memory on the sensor itself so there's like also like those processing limitations that sometimes hold back these new technologies the generation even if you get like much better say frame rate on a new sensors frame rate capability so if you get much higher resolution or whatnot sometimes it's it's got to wait a little bit for the ISPs to catch up well hopefully we see that since we're coming at some point whether or not it's in a Sony phone a couple of questions in our chat real quick is the X z3 water-resistant indeed it is it has IP 65 or 68 ratings and also I saw one here just a second ago okay Shawn Vega valets I'm not Villas I'm not going to actually say what the comment was but it was commenting on the the look of the phone and I kind of just wanted the I wanted to give of just one thought like okay experience owns they tend to have very similar designs from year to year this one kind of looks I've seen this before the one thing that I have to comment on that finger provider looks kind of low don't you think yeah very low yeah I have no idea what the what the the thought was there from Sony to put it so low because this is gonna dis gonna result in more drop phones than anything else all right my just cameras too cuz I subconsciously I would that's why I would put my finger yeah that's true I think it actually might be higher than it looks I think it's just really tall phones we can look extra low but it definitely is a bit low even then yeah but even then it's like at the center of gravity of the phone so so even if you hold the phone kind of like Center a little bit you have to do some damn I still holding this you have to do something still holding that ask you see just can't let go man just can't let go go no I've have a feeling I have a feeling that the engineers over have sewn you were like this is where the balance is that's where the balance yeah exactly that's where the fingerprint reader will go all right so a name a name in the smartphone game that you may not have heard a whole lot for a little bit is ete now we have the X on 9 Pro and as Anton routes here at pocket now it's supposed to be a true multimedia flagship so we have a full HD Plus display take that for what you will if you're looking at a multimedia phone but it does have the snapdragon 845 6 gigabytes of ram 128 gigabytes of on-board storage and that panel is an AMOLED display so what we're looking at here is ZTE s return but of course the number one question here is how do they bounce back from all of the controversy that happened especially here in North America is this going to is this going to do it for them do you think mm I can almost hear you shaking your head is a very big controversy we're talking like the US president got involved kind of big you know even it's just for Twitter which I mean that's a prime way of involvement anyway well that'd have been crazy if like he tweeted what he said about ZTE and then on the bottom it's a tweeted from it CTE I mean it's an interesting phone that the action 7 was the sleeper hit that everyone keeps comparing this to yeah this is a very different phone like there are some definite downgrades in terms of resolution there's definite ground downgrade to 1080p there's no ID phone jack for a audio for an audio centric phone there's the bottom firing speaker that's still you know for the purpose of stereo but it's not the same as to front-facing speakers to me like the most interesting oldness wireless charging a bigger battery those are nice things but to me the most interesting bit is what they're doing with the display so to those listening who don't know what they're doing they're including an RGB sensor that would measure the color temperature and just the general ambience of where you're in and then the display would be adjusted asked to compensate for that color temperature in order to bring you the best viewing experience kind of like true tone I guess but more focused towards a nice viewing experience not necessarily an accurate one and then they're doing some frame interpolation so that if you play a 24 to 30 frames per second video it will fill in the the frames to make it run at 60 frames per second and that's a SAS DP footage well I mean it's interesting I don't look like a soap opera yeah I mean it's interesting I don't think it's very useful like everything that I would want to watch us 60 frames per second it's already at 60 frames per second anyway and there's probably some very virtual our artifacts going on but I do appreciate that there this is something we haven't seen included or anywhere else for a kind of media centric phone it's interesting yeah yeah I do you think that the full HD display is kind of knocking it back where do you land on where do you guys land on screen resolutions do you immediately kind of scoff at the lack of quad HD I mean I'm currently using a full HD phone so I'm okay with not having super super high resolution but same time I can see that it's lower I visit Lee without even having a second phone nearby to compare I can still tell that's a 1080p phone but it's not so much an issue that's bugging me if it's come as a trade-off comes with the right savings and the right improvements elsewhere it can make sense okay I don't know whether this is a forward backward or lateral move from ZTE because you have to remember the axon 7 came out 2 years ago and there was a gap year in between and since then the only time that ZTE has been in the news is because of this whole debacle in politics between the US and China on trade and with this this yes I see I love that no one quite remembered exactly yeah well axon Mario would would know about that I guess thank you for reminding me there but yeah like I was actually there for the freakin launched a man was complete memory Hall exactly but like even like but that was still like around the same time because that was late last year right and that was when this whole ginning up with the political machine started so like there was a whole bunch of them stuff and then you know earlier this year the the bottom just fell out so at this point this is an exercise of rebuilding it's a shape we saw this in pre briefs at CES and but we didn't know exactly what would happen beyond you know when we heard about the news that everything was you know going down the drain and that the imports ban was being issued you know yeah I think this is maybe a safe move a safe I mean at least this amoled at least there's a decent battery inside and even with the 3.5 millimeter headphone jack getting out of the game well I actually am not sure about that but Bluetooth technology is all the better for me well my personal take away from this is uh it's it's just it's just a hot take you know I keep looking at this photo of it and I want to say that I'm E's hand obviously it's it's got some real g7 vibes to me and I don't know how I feel about that personally like it just doesn't really seem that much different to me as the way in the way that the axon 7 did and I think that that might uh that might not that might not really work to their benefit this is a freaking stupid comment I just wanted to highlight it I'm sorry um Shawn Vega villas and his Trump uses a ZTE Melania Huawei and their son Baron a oneplus family of Chinese speaking of our comments there I love that the the live chat is kind of moderating itself a little bit but I will answer this question on the air Donnell Paige asked what's the price of the Exxon 9 well only German availability is available right now but it will go for 649 euros which translates to a little under a little under $800 in the nose but who knows if it will come in the US that's the thing no that's another important part that I don't feel we have touched on it's just the fact that there's a big price disparity between what the oven was $400 yeah yeah I mean that was part of why it was such a sleeper hit because it was so affordable exactly yeah I think Stephen knows is that what you were going to touch on yeah I actually three things that was one of them second was that I mean yeah I know everlaw pill like the accents of his design but it wasn't really unique design it it took heavily from me she sees design at the time there come on the triangles were like the best things about it right I will admit when I was talking about the design of the x17 that was it was in my head like yeah so that's very much a QC style design dual front speakers that was very much an HEC thing at the time it took heavily from it those were good aspects that we wanted to see more almost made it memorable there we were miss having triangles not the dual em the dual screen of the I was about to say ZTE take a take note I'm not too worried about it looking like other phones that's not saying that okay sorry that's et's really losing compared to before what I was curious about though is how their quality control is gonna be to surround seven I had multiple friends that has to return the phone after buying it because they ran into issues either was charging or with the speaker stopped working sure the microphone not working anymore or a couple other things like that and now their quality control team have had some time off kind of bad or better and yeah they were they had to face in garage no I was about to only say that they were they were trying to fix a urinal in place of what 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chief at X da from I think 2015 - up until early this year so it's quite a run mostly specialized in big technical articles and I still write those for the site beyond that I'm a mathematics student University of Minnesota senior year doing my last year specializing in AI machine learning and I don't know I have a really cool cat I guess that's pretty and a broken fortunately yeah well I'll get a new one just a couple hours oh there we go do you know what the funny thing is that broken espan it kind of looks like when you snap a pencil and a half all right don't you let the viewers know a little bit more about you yeah I I've been right for XDA for awhile joined back in 2016 almost exactly two years ago actually I think my first article isn't like the 29th of August yeah congratulations on your second revival anniversary I got to go to Google i/o twice well with X it's a ton of fun outside of XDA I'm a senior financial analyst for a venture capital firm Pharmaceuticals wow that really your second exactly all right cool Jules how things been since last week so I'm Jules and I've been the pocket now for four years and I don't know exactly what I'm doing here but hey I'm here so yeah it's been a pretty fun week it's been pretty hot being Bermuda highs be damned I shall be rid of you soon because fall is coming are you still are you done traveling like are you back now or I'm back for the next few weeks just got ahead to New York for a show I think it's a show stoppers thing or something but yeah that's pretty much it unless you know Brandon needs to drag me down to Philadelphia for that fair enough Brandon if you're still in the Chad he's he wants that beer alright so one thing that I wanted to do as part of our check-in or read not really ask for our chicken but in this little mid break that we have okay all of the phones that we had in this past segment in this last segment before we get into sort of the bigger like I don't know it's it's hard to rank all of these but that's what we're gonna try doing so far out of everything that we've that we've looked at now Jules has here that we wanted to do the best three but what is something that you're really excited for at least up until this point I think that's where I'm going to put that well I'm excited for a more injured one I'm not one of those stock Android evangelists that you know like there's a lot of that in kind of the reviewer community that it's like stock Android or bust but that said I think it's a good fit for mid-range devices just because they're always having the performance issues and the security update issues and if you have mid-range devices are updating faster than flagships and that kind of put the onus on the OEMs to really speed up their security patches floor of their flagships themselves so I'm excited for everyone yeah all righty how about you Steven yeah well what are you excited for so far what jumps right out at you partly what thing only mesh so far they mostly say for one directly want the stories itself it was the focus on battery life I actually love large memory phones the majority phones is also you don't get me through the day I'm really happy to see multiple phones focusing on battery life right now and I hope this trend continues yeah fair enough and then finally Jules yeah I'm pretty happy about the spread that we have today and obviously we'll be getting more as the weekend progresses I'm just again I'm just happy that there is a lot of options that we see here that are prominent that are something that consumers can actually consider as something that they can drive their lives daily with them as opposed to previous years where we've just gotten short shrift on mid-range phones or phones with like this little quirk to them like these are all saleable phones at your stores or your carriers or whatever so I'm pretty glad to see that happen in 2018 go at least for me I just I'm happy that we're not having think you all over the place anymore so I'm gonna stick with it but if they were going to go for a fitness slash active centric phone let's call it the g7 gains just do that g7 Kido yes she's an Aikido exactly Lokar of lifestyle okay so what we have coming up in terms of games as a new processor coming from Huawei see my segue to a point today come on we have always just announced like literally like I woke up to this email this is the here in 980 so what we have here is a brand new processor now the cure 970 has already gotten a lot of great press it's it's it's well known for having wonderful performance now the 19 he just aims to really just sort of up the ante in that case it's the first to feature arms cortex a 76 cores and also there is the Mali g76 GPU in terms of graphics and I'm sure a lot of people are going to be really happy to check that out in terms a fortnight and Club G Mobile moving forward or there's also the dual NPU so they are going to be doubling down in a sense on their AI technology and also that dual MP you will also be used on top of the ISP as used for photography any thoughts I'm sure I'm gonna go and refer to our much more technical people on the on the panel here thoughts on the Kiran 980 whoa do I have thoughts it's this is a very interesting release for huawei the one of the reasons why we've seen while we kind of remain quote-unquote behind Qualcomm even though they usually launch a little bit earlier and thus get a bit of an advantage in terms of CPU performance for instance one of the reasons was because they were still behind in some areas so for example the one of the reasons why the hiring 970 was behind the current snapdragon 845 in terms of cpu performance is because that processor was built on TSM C's 10 and a meter as opposed to Qualcomm's 10 nanometer I mean Samsung's 10 nanometer and also there's the that the fact that I was running a 73 course which were older now though we expect the next during on a 45 a 55 sorry to have the their course a Creole course based on a 76 core so it would be the same kind of core baseline as the new current chipset and also we expect them to be built on the same Senate in an immediate process so there's gonna be more of a parity the reason why we see Kwame touting a something like 75 performance increase over the last generation it is precisely because they were a little bit behind and something similar goes for a GPU so there they're coming up with very very large improvements and they also have some their Flex scheduler which should allow those course to be better adjusted to very particular workloads I mean absolutely multiple tasks multiple types of different intensities at the same time there you go there you go and there's also the fact that they're doing something really interesting for the first time we see a big middle little setup in the sense that we have two big powerful a seven a 76 course clock that I think it was two point six years and then we see another two a76 scores that are clock lower I believe it was uh still somewhere that Jews right yeah it was not it wasn't one point ninety two yards and and they also have different voltages so they are not just like lower clock they're also operating at a different price power ratio absolute performance power ratio and then you have the a fifty-five which are the power efficient course so you have this structure set up we have two powerful two middle which are still very powerful and then the four efficient and this is something new that's enabled by arms dynamic IQ system which would was promising this kind of level of flexibility in the core arrangements and we're now really seeing this come to fruition so that's on the CPU side GPU wise we also see a gigantic improvement the the new Malley g76 as I think is a 30% higher performance density which if you confer if you compare the highest configuration of the MAL g72 which was the type of GPU that the carry Knight 970 was using with the of the g36 which is a kind of GPU the 90s using there's a 25% peak performance difference however the Chiron GPUs the the the Mallee GPUs do not come all created equal Qualcomm usually have some more powerful ones because they they feature more course in different frequencies whereas huawei's is always opted for kind of a more middle the real configuration that's never been asked powerful so that's kind of why we see Exynos GPU performance be higher than the current GPU performance but both still lower than the Qualcomm CPU performance the audrina this time because at a higher performance density we have just 10 cores as opposed to 12 of last year's GPU but they're much more powerful and we've seen something like I think was 46 percent improvement in GPU performance in something crazy like a hundred and seventy five percent power efficiency improvements which is really what they need it because those GPS have been just terrible for I have a story I'm getting here is that there's been a lot of fewer reference pieces being drawn in and more of the customization going on I wonder if as Steven you can cover some of the back end here in terms of the NPU in terms of also the ISP yeah so it's definitely gonna be a big step forward for why wait for what way hopefully it'll find uses in the actual devices themselves hopefully we'll see some more interesting camera stuff like they were doing with the P series but the big question for it my quote in my case is what else are they gonna try and do with the phone I think sorry with the processor I think at this point the cure and I maybe is that level where it's actually powerful enough to be used in ultrabooks and stuff like that I think we may actually get when we're if they want to they could put out a cure in 980 base Chromebook or even a Windows 10 on arm mate book of which is always branding for their laptops so a you can see what to do there and if they can integrate it with Cortana and all that other stuff that way and Google assistant on the Chromebooks they think there will be some definite uses for the MPU with all that extra machine learning processing that is being used by those voice assistants yeah that's still love that's still a distinction that a lot of people have to make is that's machine learning /ai whether or not they're the exact same thing but having a dual NP you all up in there is like you have you have a lot more processing power and as far as the ISP is concerned it's able to it's able to recognize so many more at a much faster rate which is kind of cool I mean but that's that's something that we're gonna have to see moving forward I will say though that the the AI and the camera of the p20 Pro it's still probably my favorite version of it or at least until now the Samsung one's not bad but even Samsung knows not to use certain terms like AI yet yeah yeah yeah they definitely kind of like put it in like the print of like their marketing materials like oh it's a I base scene detection something something to keep in mind regarding AI is that ultimately the NP you and even welcomes DSP in terms of AI itself they see very limited implementations now we saw while we kind of tout the offline translation power through Microsoft back in previews releases and we obviously feel this camera stuff right but the truth is that ultimately it the it's the responsibility of the developers and kind of the the the spotlight is on them in order to actually begin utilizing these very powerful application specific modules in these chipsets because ultimately those bits in the processor they're not doing something special per se they're doing compute they're doing a very fast vector math and a matrix math they're doing a lot of operations per second it's just more arithmetic but they're doing they're doing it at a faster rate they're specialized for that kind of arithmetic and they're doing it at a much more power efficient point so that's the thing with this kind of whole AI mbu's like I I'm very excited about this stuff obviously like I wanted to be part of my future right but at the present time it's something that hasn't really materialized in a way that kind of makes the marketing points really resonate and really translate into something that arrives to the end-user experience and that people can actually be excited because something like a 30% boost in CPU frequency it will have a noisy B frequency CPU performance it will have some trickle-down effect in your day to day user experience it might be minimal it might not be depending on how its implemented with the software but something like mm P you sure you can you have two of those things it's all parallel math anyway so you get pretty much a two point two if they get I think they got two point two X improvement so you basically double the that performance yeah for sure but it's still like you're doubling performance of something that is very fast in the few things that it's being used anyway and it's not being used for enough things that it is yeah I had a feeling that we were gonna have a really good discussion on the 980 when we had you guys on I'm glad to know that I'm right that I was right as I I love the deep dive into stuff like that now unfortunately we are going to go from a super high powered processor and so on that might not be quite as powerful the mediatek helio found in the latest blue device what we have here is blues on is this X I or 11 plus I wants a Olevia there xi it's there a lot of generation thing and you never know these names oh yeah but that's their xi vivo thing going on at blue and it comes at a point where they've decided that there's been a whole bunch of damage that's been done to their brand over the course of the years they started out with this unlocked phone mission and they've just been spamming through the industry for a lack of a better term in terms of giving out all the these models so a little statement from CEO Samuel Oh have I aziah in here since we started this company in 2010 it was always our commitment to provide customers with the best devices at incredible pricing along the way our obsession with free frequently launching new devices became excessive and eventually a dent there was way we could support so many different models with software updates after sales service spare parts accessories and other important parts of the customer experience what it would expect of a reliable smartphone brand we all make mistakes the important thing is to learn from them improve and move forward that's what they've been doing there at blue and hopefully this is just a touchstone this is only a point at which we can observe from at this point but it will have to see we will have to see if they follow up and provide those updates so for this phone they're saying that March 2019 Android Pi is coming they're starting off at eight point one we'll have to see and I know it's it's late March March 2019 for pi but let's see if they can make this promise because the blue life one that I tested all the way back when I first came out came along here did not get it scheduled lollipop update so yeah that's that's something to walk out for well we're jumping through a few of our last topics here just some quick thoughts even if they are going to release fewer phones in their cycles are you excited all about the latest one that there no sorry no but blue has been just so off my radar and I mean we we've written stories about blue phones on the portal I've edited many of them but it's not something I particularly care about and I think that most in the enthusiast community don't particularly care about that either fair Steve how it is uh yeah I think it's the change that they have to make their whole thing beforehand before now was that they were making it easier to get those cheap Chinese phones and have them localized to your current region and in true now you can get those cheap Chinese phones directly please Express that's what and even on Amazon so they need to make an extra step in that support life they want to be able to keep rebranding those phones and a great point yeah mm-hmm yeah cheap Chinese phone it's not oh sorry Steven no quicksaving uh I think this one had 60 bytes of RAM for 280 that's not too bad definitely not to be a before the six-four 400 I think it was yeah well you don't really have to expect that this next phone is going to be just a cheap Chinese phone though that is a phrase that can be knocked around a little bit show there's a Chinese phone a Chinese phone I'm messing up but definitely it is uh well depends on you right yeah to get ahead of a lot of the announcements that have been coming out of Eva it feels like a lot of these phones that now have sliders built into them whether they're motorized are not be solid they all seem to be motorized but I wish they weren't all motorized Xiaomi has announced or not announced but also I kind of just unveiled maybe give a bit of a peek into their next device the me mix three now we have I think it's pretty safe to say we've all been fans of the me mix line it's done some pretty great things it may not be the perfect device but it does some things very right and it's a memorable phone is this one going to be as memorable as the rest and now that it has a rather Oppo find 10 like design with that camera array that pops right out of the top any quick thoughts and Hut takes on this one you guys it looks like it's the whole backslid of anything yeah now it looks like the top display part is moving down to make room for the cameras and I think you know in terms of you know the whole engineering part of this has been a big debate in terms of moving parts I personally think that if there is a passive element if you can move it without doing damage to the internal mechanisms that's fine but in like if you can feel it if you're working against motors when you're moving it around I'm sorry pass yeah put the motors away like give me back the sliders from like old you know I think I think the the magic one might be manual they D that the honor announce also the honor but I think yeah I'm pretty sure I read that I think I think oh yeah yeah so yeah that's the new thing right but the thing about the thing is that the I mean if someone has consistently been doing this whole minimal vessel thing right it's been show me with this particular line of phones so I actually do want to see whether they can keep outdoing themselves and now outdoing the competition because the next is really impressive it's turned a lot of heads even if it's motorized and some people are doubtful about how long they'll last and how fickle how finicky it might be it's interesting to see that that it's not it was not just the one off that vivo did right it's it's something that other OEMs are adopting as well you know it's not like a concept car right and that's exactly yeah exactly yeah and I have to give show me a lot of credit because it's their phones consistently at least in my estimation as my world as a review over the last five years that it's it it seems like their phones are the ones that you just can't really it's hard to just bash it out right you know like it's hard to do that it always leaves a lasting impression so that's that's something that I really enjoy with that Steven had a quick point this seems like a much more sturdy implementation of the pop-out camera than some of the others also I remember the oak OEM one from a while back the moveable camera he will constantly break it it's a worry for a lot of the other pop-out camera ones this one seems like a more sturdy application of it yeah definitely alright so as we're rounding out our stories for today we have ourselves one final story about smartwatches and it's about where OS where OS apparently is going to be getting a bit of a UI updates and the question here is about whether or not this is going to actually give it the revival that it needs now one thing that I do want to give a bit of a back-end thing we are seeing processors getting improved to the point where smartwatches could probably be more practical lasts a little bit longer on top of what might be coming from Qualcomm and Samsung moving forward even though Samsung focuses on Tizen what I mean is if the if the innards are getting better while the software make all the difference for example the fact that in the UI you can only swipe maybe just one time to get to all of the different items rather than having to go through the entire entirety of the UI to get to your tasks that's one thing that I think is great you also have kind of a Google now feed over to the left that will allow you to get straight to it just like on a smartphone so where do you guys what do you guys think about where OS in general and do you think that this is actually going to help it out hmm well I use wear less pretty much every other day I actually have the Fosters gagin full cell phone watch just really nice and and then I also use the gear s2 when working out but to be honest like it's Jimmy is just an extended Notification Center so I don't actually care much about all the other things that it can do that said yes more more Hardware will enable them to do more things in the sense that it's not that they all the processors were not strong enough to do it this it will still be very basic interfaces but they'll be able to do it at a more efficient kind of power consumption point so they can do a lot more I think with the upcoming chipsets and I mean I'm interested to see like whether if they really optimize the UI to make it simple and fast whether I'll be using it for other things in just a notification center true yeah I think notification extension is like the main function of a SmartWatch how about you guys drills and uh Steven yeah same here I might be using a Android wear Tizen SmartWatch right now I'm still on a show me and me band right now okay come on the three cool yeah right now they were easy until now we barely store too short for me and I mean having swiping on the main screen change the change the display itself seems a little bit of a waste of uh bit of a waste of a function it I hope that now with the redesign it will be a little bit more useful and work a little bit better and maybe have a bit better barrier Lahey yeah there's no number one thing that we all need final thoughts from Jules before we sign off I'm actually looking forward to ditching wear less entirely and going with this new Nubia thing that was post well I'm about to post it but it was the like it's a flexible OLED strip that's taller than your wrists are like longer than your wrists would have four usable space and it's interesting what they have going on there they announced that at Aoife there's a video you should see it pocketnow.com if not you know right after the live broadcast or later on if you are listening to this offline yeah all right well we ended on some smartwatches and on that wearable notes we're gonna go ahead and call it on this show for this week remember that the weekly is just as much a conversation as it is a show this one went a bit longer because there's so much news coming out of Aoife and even outside of Aoife a little bit in the case of Xiaomi and blue but make sure your voices are heard either in the comment section down below or by emailing us at pocket cast at pocketnow.com you can also get into social media and tag the podcasts on twitter with the hashtag pn weekly I want to give a big special thanks to Mario and Steven for joining us on the show today we do Mischa Jaime but you're probably eating a lot of course and drinking a lot of beer so maybe we don't miss you that much as for our personal social media handles Mario is a tech young gun yeah yeah that's the one TAC hy o n GU and Steven is at okay so are the hyphens part of this handle here okay so s zi m9 - there we go that's s zi m9 - over on twitter pointed 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