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special thanks to our sponsors for sending us to Computex 2019 what is going on everyone we are here in Taipei for Computex 2019 this is probably the first video you're gonna see from us regarding Computex coverage and we're gonna kick things off with obviously AMD stuff because wow you guys are all over this and I don't really blame you so I have a lot of stuff pulled up on my phone here I'm gonna be a tional II looking and referencing it because there's a lot of stuff to go through but I want to stock start first with the CPUs of themselves just so we get a baseline what we're gonna be working with now and talk about what we expect to come out very soon especially at the 16 core rise the 9 CPS we're expecting here so starting first with a rise in five we have a 3,600 at 6 cores 12 threads boost frequency of 4.2 gigahertz three Meg's of l2 cache 32 megabytes of l3 cache and then we have the risin 5 3600 X just a higher boost frequency essentially and that's a 95 watt chip rise and 7 goes up to the 3700 X that's 8 cores 16 threads 4.4 gigahertz boost frequency this is definitely higher than what we're familiar with regarding Zen and Zen plus horizon 7 3800 X 8 cores 16 threads 4.5 gigahertz boost frequency of that jumps up to 105 watts so that's a bit higher and then rise in 9 3900 X 12 cores 24 threads a 4.6 gigahertz boost frequency I remember this isn't talking about all cores so you won't have an all core 4.6 8 gigahertz boost frequency you could certainly manually overclock if you wanted we're not sure how good overclockers these chips are gonna be but 4.6 on any core for anything named Rison is a big step in the right direction because we've been limited to pretty much around 4 or 4.1 maybe 4 point 2 gigahertz for at least 1 or 2 cores with Zen plus and then Zen the original Zen Rison 1000 was if you were lucky 4 gigahertz now we're reading the price I don't think the price is too bad I haven't seen many people talk about the price for the most part they've been fairly positive about the $4.99 price tag and I think you just have to look at this in a macro sense right 12 cores and a mainstream consumer grade CPU is unheard of I'm gonna throw up this graphic here and this one's very interesting to me again you gotta take these things with pretty large handful of salt when we're talking about you know industry tests this is probably something that a.m. he's trying to make look better for themselves I would say this if I didn't tell I would say this about NVIDIA it doesn't matter what company it is I would wait for third-party reviews before you start you know spewing this is gospel but when you talk about IPC which is something that Intel is dominated for a long time we've got a graphic here showing that be 3,700 X pretty much neck and neck with a 9700 Ches IPC 1,900 keg and this is gonna be a better bench if overall it's why it's slightly higher IPC than that plus two percent and then three percent for the 3800 X again we don't know for sure we're gonna be running many tests at the exact same frequencies in the future to show you guys what you're getting per clock but this is this is really good news it becomes this close maybe within two or three percent of Intel I will be just as happy and I would gladly play pay five hundred bucks for a 12 core 24 thread trip like that especially on a consumer-grade platform now you're going to need a very beefy chipset to handle all the new features including PCI for including power delivery and the x5 70 chipset is what I want stalk about next we're in the gigabytes suite case you're wondering and there are plenty of boards in that direction and they are all being occupied by other media so let's try to find our way in there at some point I'll but you'll see some shots here in a second and yeah these boards are looking really good from gigabyte I'm going to talk about some of x-5 seventies features next now what you're looking at here is the x5 70 horas extreme one of the best five seventy boards that gigabyte has to offer and this is a direct 16 phase motherboard here so the power delivery up top no doubling it is purely sixteen individual phases feeding that CPU and that's pretty incredible that also tells us a lot about power draw for rise into or Zen to ever you want to call it rise in 3000 you can see we have two dedicated a pin EPS ports up top whenever you see something like this we saw this with X 299 that means that when you manually overclock these CPUs they are going to pull some powers that don't be surprised also you'll notice that most X 570 chipsets have dedicated fans are usually pretty small but this one doesn't have that fan because the entire AHA this entire plate here is made out of metal so that conducts a lot of the heat and passively radiates up to the atmosphere also a heat pipe extends connects that to the to the North vrm Finn stack and I like seeing individual Finn's here's something gigabyte did a while back with I believe the original x3 70 boards that they had and now we're seeing the fence stacks again with VR I'm cooling here on the X 570 so good to see that it's stuck around and I will definitely come in handy especially when manually overclocking and I'm sure you've heard it a lot PCIe gen3 the bandwidth of PCIe gen3 so this is a 2 terabyte drive here you're looking at from gigabyte and this course using an nvme interface you could raid these and that would almost double your performance I'm actually running a raid 0 config in my personal rig right now and it's been pretty stable and then check this out this right here has four of those nvme drives packed into that exceeds in the PCIe slot and this is a full 16 lane card like this with this will saturate a full 16 lanes and because they have 4 these cards in here in raid and C theoretical reads and writes up to 15,000 megabytes per second so I'm not sure if you guys really care at all about transfer speeds but if you want some of the best out there at least on consumer grade hardware and this would definitely be it it is very heavy very sleek looking looks very good requires active cooling and I'm sure it's gonna cost an arm and a leg maybe looking for something nice and compact you have X 570 eye or s pro Wi-Fi you guys love ITX builds this is for you they told me that this is going to be very overclockable so you should expect similar overclocking performance with this as you would in some of their beefier boards thanks to eight discrete phases and then you have an 8 layer thick PCB nuts kind of you guys to see but this is an ultra thick PCB here so you can do a lot more with the board when you have eight different layers to run those copper traces and that's pretty impressive again active cooling here pretty much every board except for the one we showed you earlier that extreme board so active cooling over the chipset underneath that and then we have a very beautiful check out the backside here built in IO shield so at this point it's pretty easy to speculate and assume that AMD is just going to take everything over and force Intel to walk with its tail between its legs for a good two or so years at least until whatever they're working on ten nanometers actually comes to fruition because that's been delayed many times and we still have an Intel shortage of current 40 nanometers stuff thanks to the fact that their manufacturing chipsets and CPUs on the same fab so it's not looking great for Intel at this point and I'm sure any somewhat cognizant tech tuber will tell you that but here's where I get just a little apprehensive and I want to bring this up because it's a trend that I've noticed when I've talked with some ministry reps and I'm not really sure what to take away from it all because AMD for the past three or four years has been pushing higher core count chips that is they're trying to make hike or count chips as mainstream as possible and that's perhaps one of the reasons why is n ins m+ weren't great overclockers relatively speaking I mean if you could hit four or four point two gigahertz of great but Intel setting five right and that's one of the reasons why they perform so much better in games because games are still largely quad maybe hexa-core dependent so you know the difference between a 1600 and a 1700 rise in CPU isn't much when it comes to frame rates and that's because games for the most part don't effectively utilize eight threads and well I said eight threads what I mean is eight cores 16 threads in the case of SMT so Mike my question and what I'm looking forward to in 2019 2020 is how many developers in both the the creative side as well as the gaming side are really going to take advantage of 12 cores or 16 cores for that matter let's assume we're talking about 16 cores already we know what's coming right that second triplet there was a blank space there and we know that that's what this is basically resulting in is a 12 core and now a 16 core CPU 32 threads in a consumer-grade ship incredible but is it really going to be worth it for gamers are the programs and the games you're going to be using on your system really going to be able to utilize 16 cores I mean let alone 16 threads but you have 32 threads there in that case 24 threads in the case of the 3900 X that's just that's mind-boggling to me and what I'm curious to know and find out in the next year or two is whether or not AMD's expectations regarding higher count dependencies actually do end up playing out in the real world so I wanna know what you guys think about 12 core CPUs 16 core CPUs mainstream consumer grade is it something you would consider and if so why I want you to justify it that's really the key here it's easy to say oh yeah I've got a really nice 12 core CPU but I really only utilize six pores you know and twelve threads but but I have 12 cores if I need them is it something you're really going to be able to use can you justify it trying to do so in the comments section below if you if you stream you do whatever and you think you're gonna be able utilize that much then sure but this is something that I'm curious about and I for my own uses I mean it's it's tough to find especially with AMD nowadays programs that will saturate the full core up of core lineup so yeah well only we'll have to wait and find out this is kind of a weird spot to film but I wanted to end this video outside cuz it was very loud indoors you guys have been awesome and yet this is hopefully gonna be our first video I'll upload this today and then we have plenty of stuff to show you guys from the netting exhibition hall and then the Grand Hyatt Hotel plenty of sweets with some show weed offerings stay tuned for that stuff you guys been awesome thanks for watching this is science studio thanks for learning with us you