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A Classic Case of Fanboy

2018-04-21
fanboys typically ignore facts they ignore objectivity and most of the time they also ignore irrational discussions because if you automatically assume that that person is a fanboy then they'll just resort to calling you a fanboy for the opposite team and that gets no one anywhere at that point if you're in that debate with that person you should just stop you're never gonna get anywhere you're never gonna influence a fanboy that he or she is a fanboy and that's like rule number one of being a fanboy you can't be influenced of your inherent subjectivity for no reason whatsoever then you're probably one look it's okay to prefer one over the other even if you want to extend this to graphics cards or motherboard manufacturers if I purchase primarily corsair products does that make me a corsair fanboy okay maybe from the outside it might appear that way but maybe i just appreciate the reliability of course their products or just how aesthetically pleasing some of their products are so being a loyal fan does not necessarily mean that you're a fanboy and people use fanboy in a derogatory sense as more or less being that blind and inherently subjective person who doesn't rely on facts so to bring this one home if i today and prepare to tell somebody that I prefer Intel CPUs over AMD CPUs then I better also be prepared to back up my statement with supporting arguments maybe I prefer to just play video games that's all I do on my gaming PC and because of that and I understand inherently that Intel has higher frame rates due to the fact that Intel's been refreshing the same architecture for four or five years and so developers have had longer times to optimize games with Intel CPUs versus Rison which is a relatively immature platform by comparison and also the fact that Intel CDs overclocked a bit higher there is my argument right that could be one of the few arguments that I throw at that person who might otherwise assume that I'm a fanboy that's called supporting your argument with just you know facts and that's what fanboys don't tend to do they tend to ignore facts and just spew crap that has no basis in science no basis on any of the channels that I look up to and that I feed off of right when we're exchanging info and we're talking about how we're benchmarking products we don't want to do anything wrong we don't want to give you guys the wrong impression or lead you to the wrong conclusions and often what fanboys will do is come to a conclusion that is not based on anything we've ever presented on our channels and that's exactly what happened with a viewer of mine in my last video which you can check out right here in a nutshell I discuss how to upgrade your be 350 bios in order to make it compatible with Zen plus for the 2600 up through the 2700 X I demonstrated the process but I also pointed out that you can't just buy a be 350 board and expect you know the Zen plus CPUs to work out of the box the motherboard was obviously manufactured before Zen plus was unless it was built yesterday and because of that you're going to need a Rison one so it's summit ridge CPU first in order to boot into the BIOS and then flash it within flash queue flash and whatever usually on a thumb drive now I understand that AMD has kits for these things you can I'm not sure if they're still doing it but you can usually contact AMD they'll send you a little dummy CPU but it let you boot into your BIOS and that's all you really need and then you can swap that out for your Zen plus CPU and you're good to go I'm not sure if they're still doing that a few people pointed that on Twitter so let me know in the comments if that's still the case and I will pin your comment but that's honestly beside the point see this viewer took what I said in the video out of context because I pointed out that you would need a rise in one CPU in order to upgrade your BIOS on a be 350 motherboard he defaulted to the typical AMD is trash statement by saying quote AMD is so garbage okay well that's basically trash you literally need to buy two CPUs just to set the correct motherboard BIOS so the one that you actually want to play on works trash fodder Intel will always be on top of the CPU market and in video will always be on top of the GPU market yeah we're gonna ignore the second half of his comment we might say that for the end and just address it briefly but the first half is what I really want to focus on that's the meat of this video because his statement assumes that AMD is the one responsible for all of these BIOS updates that should be by default on all motherboards when they launched because motherboards are supposed to account for technology that's not you know manufactured yet right so see here or two down the line these motherboards just posts they're supposed to support the CPUs out of the box basically and so that's that's his first error in judgment also this is not something that's isolated to just AMD ignoring the fact that you could contact AMD more than likely and get that dud CPU de to upgrade your BIOS the Intel's done the same thing I mean if we'd look just back in the the last generation here with kb lake in order to run a cable a cpu on a z170 board for example you had to flash the z170 bios and this would be a problem for those who did not already have a sky like cpu on hand right you would have to get a sky like CPU or just buy one off of Amazon a really cheap seller on for example flash it and then you could put that cabling CPU in that socket but not only that see the the viewer first off is blaming the wrong person and they really there's no one really to blame for this I mean the fact that you can even use a newer gen CPU on an old motherboard should be a blessing you should be thankful for that regardless of how many hoops you have to jump through the fact that we can run Zen plus on a be 350 board should be a good thing you know it's not something you expect to work perfectly right out of the box because Zen plus wasn't invented when the be 350 motherboard was manufactured but the viewer first off leads his comment with the statement AMD is so garbage and that's how you can usually tell when you have a fanboy in your midst and when they make these just egregious claims and then proceed to try to back up their argument with stuff that's not even true that's when you know they're either severely misinformed or they're just so blind to their fanboy ISM that they're not willing to argue with you know logic I sincerely hope mr. green is trolling all of us but I have a pretty strong feeling he is not and that's unfortunate but the fact of the matter is many trolls out there exist you guys know this not just in the youtube comment sections but also on on forums like reddit right it's plugged with fanboys but you can also find logical and and well supported arguments on both sides not just in the CPU market but also on the graphics card market between Nvidia and AMD kind of tying into what mr. green talked about in the second half of his comment he says NVIDIA will always be on top in the market for graphics cards and Intel will always be on top for you know CPUs blah blah blah and kind of inherently correct in the sense that these companies do have substantial market share and their respective categories but I know that's not what he meant when he said that he was more or less saying that they're gonna be the dominant better company always and when you go about making you know a statement like that how it's always gonna be this way they're just arguing more or less from their emotional states than they are from their logical ones so it's really all I wanted to talk about in this video I'm still benchmarking myself that's why I kind of just threw this in there as an in-between all you guys to be aware that people out there are going to argue with you for the just for the sake of arguing and I do that a lot to be honest but often times because I want to challenge their know their positions like why do you feel the way you do explain it back it up you know don't insult me just just just throw facts at me and I can at least appreciate facts if they're verified and I try to do the same in my videos I try to show you guys exactly what I'm doing so that you can go and replicate these scenarios on your own to either verify or deny what I'm showing you in my graphs and and that's something that I expect you all to do if you have the free time is to at least you know cross-reference my benchmarks or other people's benchmarks on YouTube and elsewhere with other benchmarks so that you can get a you know just an encompassing idea of what general trend is for this particular launch so my R 5 vs. IFI video will be coming very soon you guys steer clear the fanboys they're out there right now and they are there stalking their prey they're waiting for that one guy to fall for the troll and then they'll unleash the fanboy ISM take care you guys I will see you 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