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you know companies rarely use the word never same goes for the word always guarantees like these are just too risky from a legal standpoint imagine if say Michelin started stating that their tires never ran flat imagine if Phillips said their lightbulbs never die not only with this being extremely costly measured to defend in court but it could potentially harm other things around it including people and other expensive machinery so when deep cool designs a new all-in-one liquid cooler and then puts this at the top of their webpage your eyes should be doing this right here privacy calm is the easy way to shop securely online by creating virtual debit cards tied securely to your bank account you can even download the browser extension and let it autofill card information with a single click get started for free and on a $5 credit by clicking the link below today so let's cut through the crap what is the captain 240 pro well it's deep cools latest a i/o centered on addressable r2b functionality and a patented pressure relief valve which regulates circulatory pressure via a bladder at the base of the radiator now we'll get into that more in a bit but what I want to first address is performance seeing isn't though nothing pertaining to cooling capacities mentioned on the splash page it makes sense to assume this cooler design doesn't venture too far from older Captain Series performance and sure enough CPU temperatures between the pro and older exa iOS are virtually indistinguishable this means that you should expect an effective TDP similar to or slightly better than that of a crier rig h7 or hyper 212 Evo in my own personal testing this isn't necessarily a bad thing we're just limited here in terms of the size of the radiator as well as the strength of the pump which arguably is a bit weak it's similar to next tech pump but it's not in a so tech pump the CPU block is certainly unique and this one is basically one of the big reasons why I think it's the best design overall in the business the equal doesn't slap a giant logo on this thing so you can turn this block any which direction without cringing at the sight of upside down text or anything of the sort this is especially useful when the a i/o is paired with a fairly large case and tubing length is kind of short so you may only be able to install the cooler in one particular orientation and it's nice to not have that bias on the block I'm also a huge fan of these RG B's and the way in which deep will manage to isolate individual zones these plastic grooves replace the previous model solid plate and I think it's a step in the right direction it's again more zone or DB based a thin clear band wraps around the blocks perimeter and syncs up with the grooves by the way the iconic u-shaped glass pipe is still present as well inside we've got a draconian ceramic bearings which are basically those like cheaper diamond substitutes that have a relatively high degree of hardness and durability and there's also a dual chamber three-phase pump in here which does a decent job staying quiet even while operating at several thousand rpm so all in all there's nothing exceptionally brilliant going on inside of here but I don't see anything alarming either and that's a good thing especially when it comes to something as precious as this because this right here could tank your entire system and people who have had these leak in the past know exactly what I'm talking about the two included 120 millimeter fans by the way are also RGB addressable and do a decent job staying quiet under heavy load and include fan hub makes cable routing much easier you can sync up all the RGB either with the included controller or via three pin RGB header on most motherboards support to date includes gigabytes RGB fusion software asus ora MSI's mystic light sweet and ass rocks polychrome sync so at this point if you're disappointed with the lack of a performance improvement with the model don't be I mean this cooler can be purchased for just over 100 USD and that's equivalent to the price of the EXR GB version so you're basically getting a little more for about the same price and possibly added security with the new pro model but on just that security should you seriously expect this thing to never leave and I'll be very blunt with you my answer is no you shouldn't expect this thing to never leak I actually pulled you guys on Twitter I haven't checked the results but I'm pretty sure a majority of you either said you were indifferent to the idea that you could trust people with this statement or you straight-up didn't trust it at all and that's because using the word never again especially in this industry is just too risky and it definitely puts them under a particular degrees of legal liability I'm gonna be interested to see how this plays out for them in the long run granted they are based in China so I'm not sure how that would play into it but I don't know I just feel like it's super irresponsible so yeah you shouldn't expect this thing to never leak and there are several reasons why for one this AIO has several fail points in fact the iconic u-shaped glass tubing here is a huge point of failure for these coolers that's not to say that a lot of them leak failure rates are still pretty low according to deep pools own record but if the 240 Pro does leak I'd bet money it'd be right around here the reason why I has to do with the material use remember the glass the glass is rigid and requires a higher degree of precision to burly seal it can also shatter daring shipping mostly I always avoid using glass or acrylic for this very reason and this dead stick to something that's a little more flexible you know we have braided tubing that's what we always see we've seen that for the past 10 or so years since AI o--'s have really become a big thing I'd say the last four or five years we've always seen the flexible and a braided or rubber or silicone tubing and there's a good reason for that they've stuck with that because it is reliable and easy to work with rubber and silicone are flexible easy to seal easy to reinforce and can handle significantly higher degrees of tension and closed systems they're the logical choices right so when deapool tries to be different and include real glass they're introducing an additional variableness point of failure technically though three points of failure if you count both ends where they're supposed to be sealed and the tube length itself which could shatter you know even a smaller pinprick could cause a leak the pressure relief valve found at the base of the radiator is designed to relieve this pressure new influxes of pressure I should say basically pockets of air that are introduced into the system gas consumes a relatively wider volume compresses the liquid increases the pressure in the loop and the stresses these various points of failure especially the glass seals so difficult did something about it instead of removing the iconic glass to but they decided to include this pressure relief valve that's what they're calling it and it's actually a semi flexible bladder tied to the atmosphere which means it's connected to basically the environment directly when pressure spikes are introduced larger small the bladder compresses and that vents more air occupying this space so this would effectively decrease the bladder size increase the effective volume of the loop and when volume increases in a closed system the resulting pressure drops it isn't a foolproof technique and the science behind it is fairly elementary but it could certainly mitigate slight bumps and pressure no doubt about it now the issue I have with this though is that the relief valves viability is tied directly to an issue it can't mitigate and that's a break and a seal or a crack somewhere else in the system first of all if we assume the loop operates at a pressure slightly higher than atmospheric then it's significantly less likely right for air outside of the loop to make its way into the loop that's operating higher pressure so one of the ways we know this happens in the real world is by you know syringe or forced injection some water cooling companies do this with their AOS to test tolerances up to 30 or even 40 psi but that's just it they have to literally force additional air into these systems and a IO can certainly leak from a pressure spike but the likelihood of one occurring in your typical everyday AIO is relatively low so what's the alternative then well excluding outliers like improper sealing and collision a majority of AIO failures stem from pump failures this is typically exhibited by a steady rise in core temperatures to the point where they massively throttle themselves or shut down entirely we can simulate this by simply refusing to connect the pump cable I don't want to kill one of my CPUs or risk damaging it or the IO for that matter but a possible outcome from such an event could be a leak but why when the fluid gets too hot most areas are filled with a water-based mixed with various corrosion inhibitors and when it all reaches an unhealthy temperature seals could expand and break that's what he does and there's your lead what's a healthy fluid temperature you ask it really depends but I'd be uncomfortable if temperatures approached 50 degrees Celsius in a custom loop so something similar for a iOS as well if your pump fails all heat generated by the CPU saturates the block side of the IO because you have enough circulation right and could force fluid temps into uncharted territories I'll just leave it at that upwards of 70 or 80 degrees if left long enough this is far outside recommended levels at which point the integrity of the system is in jeopardy and pretty much any you know sure any guarantee you have with an IO like this is out the window so I say all that to say this deep cools pressure relief valve while cool in principle is nothing new per se I mean some custom water coolers have been implementing similar bleed off valves for years and they're also typically in the rads but to say that because of this right here that the entire a IO will never week is just a bit disingenuous and the more I study this mechanism and the a IO is an entire system the more I realize that this is the case I guarantee that if I pulled hard enough I could break the seal around the glass there's your leak if I left the pump unplugged and let and core kay you know do its thing something would probably break there's your leak and a pressure relief valve won't do a damn thing while all of this is happening so that's what I really want you guys to take away from this is that it really only solves part of the problem and that's why I have an issue with deep cool just blanket stating the fact that their coolers will never leak because of that valve because it really doesn't solve all of the concerns and look I know that you know not plugging and the pump is a cheap shot obviously that's gonna run this thing out of spec intentionally and you know if I really wanted to force something loose I'm sure I could do that they're not expecting you to do that but that's why you don't say never in this industry because it could be user error I mean look I blew up two power supplies thinking always using the correct cables when I wasn't we all remember that so you know if deep cool had said this is a great way to mitigate leaks it's not foolproof but it's pretty darn close I'd probably vibe with that I mean saying even pretty close is a stretch and I think most of us with half a brain would know why but this is again I mean you can't use the word never with this hey this would never I don't know I don't even know how they could sell this in the US market using that as you know their marketing tool by stating that it never leaks because we all know that it can and even if I don't intentionally do something let's say the pump fails that happens a lot okay if a pump fails on nai oh I mean I say a lot you know what I mean it if the IO dies it's because of the pump wasn't likely if the pump dies then there you go I didn't intentionally do anything about it you know I didn't intentionally sabotage the IO it can I did it to itself but that could result in a leak and often that is what happens that the fluid just gets too hot a seal breaks and there you go whether it be on the block or you know toward the radiator side the seals between the radiator and the tubing it couldn't really be anywhere it could just be a hole somewhere in the rat there's your leak you can't use the word never you just can't so the relief valve is designed to mitigate pressure spikes not pressure leaks and that's why I claim like this in my opinion is a stretch of the truth so why then can a company like Depot get away with it and why can they get away with it specifically in US markets well for starters they're based out of China so if you bought this cooler and noticed it leaking you'd be hard-pressed to find a lawyer willing to sue and that's assuming you had the finances required to do it in the first place and this again is a huge reason why companies avoid words like this saying that something never happens to a particular product often associated with that very thing is ballsy at best and careless at its worst and as for US markets US retailers imagine if deep cool started shipping these worldwide I mean they already do basically you can find these and Newegg you find them I think on Amazon but another name is on yet I'm sure they'll be there shortly and then all of a sudden we started getting reports at these leak right the source is deep cool we would blame deep cool but then we might also blame Newegg we might also try to blame amazon for selling a product that is falsely advertising its own viability its own durability and that could be a problem for the retailer's so I'm not sure how long they're gonna be able to get away with this my thinking is that this is something that is short-lived I'm sure it'll just magically disappear one day we won't hear anything about the no leak scenario anymore to just it just won't be on the page and that's how they'll fix it and that's how the remedy it but for those of us who are buying into this who are buying these products thinking that they're just not gonna leak because some magical valve is correcting every issue that could ever go wrong with any IO I mean we're gonna be let down we're gonna be disappointed and some of us might try to do something about it it will be very costly but vehicles should be worried and I don't know my own tuam my intuition is telling me that it's probably gonna be stressful for Amazon and Newegg to I don't know I'm not a lawyer but I would be concerned if I was them as well I mean this is why companies like Coursera NZXT fractal design be quiet and others have never used this wording not that they could even get away with it in the European and American markets anyway even if we assume they thought of implementing a similar valve which I'm sure they have the risks are not eliminated and they never legally be able to make such a claim so deep cool if you're watching and I'm sure you will because I'll link this video to you I know what you're trying to say I get it but the way your wording it is misleading and our deserved to know so do I recommend the cooler actually yeah I do but not for the reason you think I think it looks beautiful and it does the job any 240ml AIO should it isn't overpriced it's the same price actually as the previous model and it stays quiet even under load installation is easy the fans are decent quality the software integration is spot-on I really like it just don't buy it expecting it to never leak and I feel like that's what deep pools kind of hinging this wholesale on is the fact that it won't leak because we know that's not true a company doesn't have like a crystal ball and see the future and say that none of these will ever leave so let me know what you guys think about the captain 240 Pro down below what you think about the no leak thing and be sure to check it out a via our affiliate link in the video description again remember don't buy this cooler thinking it's not going to leak that said I think it's a great cooler it looks very well built I would say the failure rates and these are gonna be as low if not lower than the e^x variants and they were already pretty low to begin with again most of the leaks either come from failed pumps or from something going wrong with the glass tubing but yeah the failure rates for these coolers used to be quite a bit worse and they've gotten significantly better over time the more you do something more familiar you are with it better you can typically kind of sculpt the product to fit the needs of the consumer and my ultimate goal here is just to pass along the the tip that you shouldn't buy this thinking it's not going to leak that said 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