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let's straighten one thing upper right away Zen - is technically the rise in 3000 series the rise in 2000 series was technically n + whose architecture was heavily reliant in the original 40 nanometers then architecture I feel as though people get those confused quite a bit and to be honest I really don't blame you but what we'll be discussing in this video is Zen - those are the suppose that rise in 3,000 serious CPUs and I'm sure by this point you've seen a rumor or two so let's zip through the bullsh and rationalize just a little bit this video is brought to you by a builds dot GG it's a brand new site dedicated sharing PC builds and hosting friendly competitions you can browse builds by location as a country form-factor color I mean there are so many different ways to kind of filter results which is a great thing if you especially want to draw an inspiration for future builds and to kick off a launch builds GG's creators are giving away a Titan RTX and graphics card the site is 100% free to use you just got to sign up and the giveaway entry is technically free as well so in my opinion it's a win one click the link below and start sharing today the seven nanometer Zen - process is discussed in this video right here in case you're wondering but in this video I want to look specifically at the rumors floating around I feel like most tech channels have already covered the rumors but I want to talk about the frequency charts cue lists basically these right here and there seems to be at least one outlet willing to leak information and garner hundreds of thousands of clicks I get it it's the business we're in but rather than sulking in the beauty of what may be incredible crisis for tons of cores and frequencies as high as five gigahertz I'll be looking at these charts very critically a skepticism is healthy and I encourage everyone to do a fair bit of research before concluding with rip Intel or rip AMD although we've been hearing rip until a lot lately because these leaks have been so popular because I can assure you Intel isn't going anywhere anytime soon right so let's start with the officials end to leak this is the first one we saw several YouTube channels covered this chart and as a result many became amped for for the launch which we now expect will be sometime in q1 or q2 2019 we might even see them announce these CPUs is CES though we don't expect to be able to buy these as general consumers until around July it usually three to six months for these processes actually at the market so just because you see them announced at CES it does not mean that anytime soon you be able to buy them so when people say oh wait for a rise in 3000 well you might be waiting upwards of six months so if you need a PC now it might just be worth buying something on the cheap maybe even use off in the time being but like this chart right here as my BS detector going off in all kinds of directions what concerns me the most is that this chart is extremely detailed we usually see a few specs fall through the cracks here and there but I mean come on a full ski will break down with prices frequencies tvp's and core counts I don't know about this one we first saw this pop up in late 2018 by the way so it looks like the lowest core accountants n2 is 6 which would be a radical shift of true six cores and twelve threads with a boost clock of four gigahertz well I mean that doesn't seem too far out of touch we're already seeing rise in 1600 CPUs touching the $100 price point at time so I could definitely see AMD doing something similar with the new generation it just it's kind of mind-boggling to think that they would completely get rid of quad-core hyper-threaded CPUs especially considering I mean if you're ready charging a hundred bucks for the six core variant why not make a fork or a thread variant that sells for 60 bucks sixty five dollars and you get the ultra you know ultra budget oriented consumers involved as well so to me it feels like a missed opportunity unless they plan on releasing the CTS later on which is sort of Lee speaking that would be probably what they'll do oh one more thing this TDP is it's oddly low this would be an incredible feat for TSMC if true and what I'm really intrigued by here is the supposin at 3600 g8 core 16 threads 3.8 gigahertz a boost clock that's usually across one core though keep that in mind and supposedly 20 mega compute units that would be pretty incredible the TDP seems to scale correctly from that of the non AP counterpart the regular 3 3600 but I'd be awfully surprised with the price disparity between these two what's this small I think my biggest degree of skepticism though stems from the price as well as the fact that it could all be contained in just a 95 watt package I mean I'm not even seeing how even with the new fab AMD could manage eight cores and 16 threads and 20 mega cores into a 95 YTD p then again intel managed the same thing with the 9900 k though it often runs far out of TDP spec when even a single switch is flipped in the BIOS so maybe that's the case here as well we start venturing into unknown territory though at the horizon 7 mark 12 cores 24 threads and somehow a 5 gigahertz boost clock call me old-fashioned but since when has AMD delivered both high core count chips and excellent overclockers at the same time and no bulldozer doesn't count more on that right here what I'm honestly thinking when I look at the section of the chart is that these specs are too good to be true keep in mind the boost clock again is just relating to a single core typically where as we'd expect all cores to manually clock somewhere in the realm of maybe four point six to four point eight gigahertz depending on your luck with the silicon lottery but even so managing to push drift a single core in such a dense 12 core package to 5 gigahertz would be an impressive feat it's one of the reasons why I'm so doubtful here and the last one over here on the far right just just seems totally out of touch with reality 16 cores 32 threads and a boost clock of 4.7 gigahertz are they mad first of all if we assume 4 cores per CC X that'll put this thing at 2 CC x's for a die and 2 dies in the package same thing as a 2950 ax targeted at workstations mind you how on earth could AMD managed to cram 16 conventional cores to a package small enough to fit in your typical amp or socket is beyond me call that the miracle 7 nanometre tech and to top things off a boost clock of 5.1 gigahertz look I know it's a single core boost but still in a package this dense even getting a single core anywhere close to that frequency would be a massive accomplishment perhaps we'll see how when AMD opens up in the coming months about the relationship with tsmc but for now I am definitely skeptical about the supposed 3100 X and 3850 x now transition to 2019 we've got apparently a Russian online retailer leaking the exact same specs for identically ninja few starting with the 3300 and working up to the 3100 X it's perfectly plausible to assume that they just ripped this chart from the leaks previously announced in 2018 and decided to plaster this up on their website just to draw traffic you know people do that but an interesting note here is that the 38 50 X with 5 or so gigahertz boost clock isn't listed in fact I'll admit up to this point I was extremely doubtful it's easy for someone to fudge these numbers pump them on a site like Reddit or wherever to build hype and instant fame I could have made the exact same chart on Microsoft Paint if I really felt so inclined but now that we're seeing two very different outlets published identical specifications despite the fact that one of these outlets is a Russian Erie tailor with which I know next to nothing I've come to give these figures a bit more consideration and again to be honest if I was AMD this is exactly what I'd want but only if these rumors were in fact accurate you see if I had let's say a hot new product ready to launch this year a car that could do 0 to 60 in two seconds flat and then I found a bunch of random sites leaking and correct info about how supposedly my new car could hit 60 and say 1.4 seconds I'd be pretty pissed why because it would elevate my consumer bases expectations of my product the hype would literally be detrimental to my sales so when the car finally launches and people realize the acceleration isn't what they thought it would be despite the fact that 0 to 60 in two seconds is still incredible they'll be disappointed nonetheless and possibly be dissuaded from purchasing it same goes for CPUs AMD wants to hype their products what company doesn't but the moment inaccurate and potentially harmful information hits the public and it spreads like wildfire you'd better believe they'll be running damage control and maybe that was AMD's intent behind the sudden CES announcement maybe they feel the need to set the record straight or maybe they feel the need to fan the flames we really won't know until they announce things so I'm honestly on the fence about this one up until recently I was extremely skeptical you could say but as more outlets confirm these initial reports I can't help but get excited we're even seeing engineering samples now of the 12 and 16 core variants just out there supposedly there are two different engineering samples out there now that people have been talking about on the DL but nonetheless if they exist as engineering samples that means that they could possibly be released at the same time as the other SKUs which would mean that AMD is in fact pushing for a 16 core consumer grade CPU again not sure how the heck they're gonna do that on a traditional am4 like socket but yeah I mean if anything they have plans for another 16 core CPU but if it is in fact a consumer-grade chip then that's gonna radically change things and look even if none of what we're seeing here ends up coming true I've still got high hopes for Sun - we've been talking about it for quite some time Intel's 10 nanometer prospect which is arguably more dense and advanced than TSM c7 nanometer because it's just marketing hype at this point hasn't looked very promising as of late so we may only have then - to compete with current gaming kings like the AI 990 900k what do you think I'm honestly curious about how many of you buy into this chart does it seem too good to be true how about the pricing what I'm you know what in particular has your PS radar going off I guess is what I should ask if anything at all as always I invite you leave comment down below these discussions are always juicy and I'll be sure to jump me from time to time as well if you like this video thumbs up thumbs down for the opposite feeling you know what to do click that red subscribe button if you haven't already become a channel member if you're feeling especially lucky and I'll catch you in the next video where we will be filming and at CES we'll be in Vegas so I 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