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what's going on folks feels really weird to do that little sit-down intro I've seen other people do it and I don't know I just have weird opinions about it anyway I want to talk to you guys in this video about testing methodology because I get a lot of questions especially aftercooler reviews like the one we just published yesterday you can check it out right here if you haven't already and I want to talk specifically about why I test what I test the configurations in which I test and then address some super weird comments because there are always a few of those so I guess I'll go ahead and sort off with a weird kind of idiotic comment that I received yesterday and it was followed up by more moronic and idiotic comments by the same person in the same thread which is disappointing because most idiots are convinced that they're right which makes it even worse so this person says there is no point of testing coolers on CPU that isn't soldered so sorry but this test is worth exactly nothing he's referring to our dark rock slim burst to 12 black edition review that is what temp is exact on both I thought that you are more acknowledged not to make such rookie mistakes okay so when I posted this on Twitter a few of you were quick to point out the the flawed English look I don't know where this guy's from I'm assuming it's a guy but I don't know what his native language is you know he might be in the first year of English and if that's the case that's really impressive like yeah he got some words wrong I misspelled a few things but that's really good for someone who doesn't speak English natively who did doesn't learn that language upfront you know when they're when they're very young so I try not to knock on the English especially if I'm suspicious of whether or not that person is a foreigner so that that aspect aside the issue that this person seems to be bringing up is that because the IHS is not soldered to the dye my tests are inconsistent and to that I have two points the first is that if you're only standard is that the CPU die be soldered to the IHS then that's not a very good standard to uphold because if you look at the 9900 K for example that solder drop I would regard as pretty crappy and it does not mean under every circumstance that you're going to have lower temps overall my second point is that who cares about lower temps even if that was your goal the idea here is consistency and if we're talking about a thermal interface material that's similar to thermal compound that we use on top of an IHS right between that metal heat spreader and a CPU cooler it's still going to give you consistent results in long run unless it is just like you know I can't even really think of a scenario where that would be an issue unless the the Tim was not completely covering the die or somehow not making contact with the IHS but you would be you would be made aware of that fairly quick because CPU temperatures would skyrocket and you'd probably thermal throttle all most immediately so unless that's happening it's probably an okay solder or Tim spreading drop whatever you want to call it but he went on he went on to continue pushing this notion and that's that I think that's the most dangerous part about it is people who are so blindly convinced about things that have no factual basis or ground are super devout and super just you know you can't convince them otherwise that's dangerous ignorance is bliss and to this person I'm sure I don't know the Earth revolves around the moon so he continues by saying just retest it properly please no matter if it will be FX risin or any other CPU just make it real you even used carbon pads but forget the basics you need soldered CPU to properly test CPUs again okay if this was true then I would say at least fifty percent of all CPU and cooler reviews out there by all the other tech tubers on YouTube and ello websites whatever they're all wrong they're all inaccurate because most Intel CPUs at least up to this point have not had soldered IHS is so that's one point worth mentioning also the he touches on the use of carbon pads he's talking about the carbon ion thermal grizzly pads that I've used in cooler reviews since we reviewed the thermal pads in this video and there's I try to stress this in every video as well the reason why I use those carbon op pads is because they're extremely consistent you can reuse them over and over and not notice any performance degradation I mean it's literally carbon carbon is not going to disappear right and I know this of course assumes that there's going to be some variance with thermal paste application and a few channels already concluded that unless you do something super weird with how you apply thermal paste your temperatures should not vary from from run to run but I used thermal pads just to be safe just to add that extra layer of consistency for you guys because it's important that you see tests on a fair basis you know obviously if I use like half a thermal pad for one test and then a full thermal pad for another that wouldn't be a fair comparison and it would give you results that are not true or not accurate at least in the real world I got more than a few of you asking why I only tested with one fan and I have a very simple explanation for why I did that it's because only one fan was included in the Box if cooler master or be quite had included two 120mm fans or 140mm fans whatever were to fit with the cooler in question then I would have tested in both the one fan and two fan config I did that in this video where we tested the knock schewe oh gosh I don't even remember the name the u12 a new 12 s something like that it's in that video anyway that cooler came with two 120mm fans and I tested in a single fan config and then a two fan config to see how the temperature varied and to determine whether or not that second fan even mattered because in at least in my testing that second fan didn't change much so if other people come out and get different results I'd like to know the the scenario is what was a testing environment like you know why did you get the results you did and why did they differ from mine because I don't think mine are the gold standard I expect people to get different results maybe not huge hugely different results but you know some variants here and there is I think a good thing and it helps us explain why we see what we see in nature one critique I took the heart a few days ago is someone complained that I wasn't using a case for my cooler reviews an open-air test bench is not indicative of the real world because most people use in closed cases and my argument at the time was well the Delta shouldn't really change if the coolers within 1 degree Celsius of each other in the atmosphere they should theoretically be the same if they're both enclosed in the same space but nonetheless I use the case for the last cooler review because I want this to be more indicative of the real world and even if the results are the same it just helps people sleep better at night knowing that I am testing in a similar environment to the one that they use on a daily basis that makes sense and that's good feedback that said a few others in the last video were asking why I wasn't using to fans or why I wasn't using standardized fan testing and this goes back to what I said earlier I test what is in the box so if Coolermaster includes really good fan I'm going to test with that fan I don't expect people to have a really nice knock to a fan just on standby that they can use for their new cooler especially if we're talking about a budget cooler like the hyper 212 black edition or the 212 evo those $30 coolers are not gonna come with the best fans I mean that's part of the compromise it's why you get them so cheap but I don't expect you to spend $30 on a single fan to put on a $30 cooler that to me makes no sense so that's why I test with what is just in the box there's also an incentive there it encourages companies to include better components for the price so that when I test what is in the box they perform better in the long run so those are a few of the things that I wanted to address in this video I wanted you guys to know why I do what I do I wanted you to hear an explanation in a video versus you know individual comments because I don't feel like I do those justice I just try to type them quickly and move on to the next one we there's a lot of comments to address so hopefully this clears some things up if you guys still have more questions or concerns you can leave those in the comments below we're gonna be taking our cooler test very seriously going forward not that we haven't already but you guys seem to really like those so I'm gonna try to keep those very standardized in the future along with our case reviews we're talking about air flow and things of that sort I also want to get a proper sound measuring device so I'm not sure what exactly I want to go with if you guys have suggestions for that link me something in the comment section and I'll be sure to check those out you guys have been awesome thumbs up if you liked the video click there and subscribe if you haven't already and stay tuned for more content like this this is science studio thanks for watching and thanks for learning with us