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all right screw it I am just gonna try it out I am being told that uh it's not viewable I can't preview my own live stream before I click live so for all I know I might be talking into the abyss and if that is the case I guess I don't really need to apologize nobody's listening we'll see I'm watching it now it's gonna be delayed just to just the tad give me a second here and okay oh it looks great and I couldn't I couldn't view it before I clicked live for some reason it was saying an error occurred please try again play back ID you know gonna figure it out we're gonna figure it out Kevin II says you're late I'm late by three minutes if that if that's a sin then sure I apologize but in the corporate world that's on time so it's all I'm gonna that's my that's my case I'm just gonna say because other people do it it's okay let's see I see I love you from India how is it going way over what time is it an India I see what time it is right now is India in one timezone or two let's see India timezone India Standard Time it is currently 8:33 a.m. over there Wow that is that's oh you're actually 12 and a half hours is it is that right twelve and a half hours or eleven and a half hours ahead of me Central Time that's really cool you're literally on the other side of the world and your time zones are like split in half like you guys have like 30 minute increments it's a lot different than how we do it here is just cuts and cut in two hours so that's weird Canon says much love from Down Under Greg I appreciate that I have always wanted to go to Australia and I hope someday soon I'll get to nico says greetings from germany 4:00 a.m. what are you doing up this early or I mean I guess is it late did you wake up this earlier you've just been pulling an all-nighter whoa stay stable says three minutes late is early for the wind show excuse me I'm not gonna say anything about the wind show it's a good show but they they do often show just literally willsez Niihau it's like the only Chinese phrases that will and I don't say cows is looking good Gregg I appreciate that Kyle I I would say that you're looking good too but I can't see what you look like is your profile picture is a letter K it's like the default okay so let's see teak sit I smell like cheese I'll have to ask Lisa if I smell like cheese I really hope I don't I don't like the smell of cheese Jesus I mean by nature of how it's made it's technically rotten I mean you can have good smelling cheese but you're still smelling a rotted dairy product in most cases kind of gross anyway let's see Salinger curses I should try to do a build off against IKEA City and Brian and I have talked about this numerous times the issue is the time zones that's really difficult to coordinate we have to be together in the same place at the same time for it to really be fair because our markets are really not comparable you know even if you transfer transfer even if you basically you know convert all the currencies it still costs more typically for parts in Australia but I guess if we'd been like a fully used build which I guess is what we would be doing if we competed with each other then we would know we'd really have to we'd have to figure out how to do it how to line it all up where we could do it in separate places because I mean he has his market and I have my market and I don't know if people would see at this fair or not people are really touchy I mean I'm sure you guys know that but they are very sensitive on hmm excuse me on on YouTube so I I don't really know how we're gonna approach that I'm gonna refresh the page because it said that 12 people were watching and I just wanted to see if that was actually true or not okay here we go double-dog oh what's the best AI Oh plenty of good AI was out there a lot of them use the same pump so they're gonna perform about the same it really just comes down to which one you think looks the best ultimately as long as they're all running the latest ASA tech bum even some of the older ASA tech pumps are fine they're gonna run quiet you might have a dead pump after a year or two or two weeks you never know luck of the draw so the failure rates slightly higher than than that of air coolers I would imagine but it's it's really just gonna come down to which one you think looks the best and which one is the best you because they're all gonna perform about the same I've never gotten like an AI oh that performs terribly they all just kind of do the same thing especially if you're talking about similar rad space - I got a policy for a second because bazinga just donated $100 and I'm gonna try my best to give him $100 worth of input here cuz I really don't think this is this is why I don't do consulting full-time because I would feel like I was ripping everybody off like they would pay me for my time and I'd be like that was really easy I feel like you shouldn't have had to have paid me that much bazinga I did this out of zone free will and my dude you are a champ isn't as always here bazinga is always supporting if you can tell every time well you can't see in this super chat but whenever he comments he is a 4-star member on science studio which means he has been supporting us as a member on the channel for at least four months now I'm pretty sure he's been around for like half a year and hopefully he's sixth around visiting he was a good guy and not just because he throws money at me but also because he genuinely brings good stuff to the table like this question here building system for multitasking videos Excel Outlook stock ticker okay cool data crunching gaming plus more on a multi-screen system all at the same time okay I see where this is going AMD 2990 WX until 99 80 XC or 79 80 XC budget 2k for the CPU money towards Lisa's Valentine's Day alright I'm sure she's watching right now so I guess I have no choice oh I'll take her out to dinner and figure out how else to stretch that hundred bucks that's actually more than I was planning to spend on Valentine's Day is that bad so I will tell her dinner is on bazinga to answer your question excuse me AMD 2990 WX I feel like you're gonna multitasking like videos Excel Outlook that stuff is if you're gonna do all that at the same time it really isn't gonna matter which CP you choose they can all do it fine in fact you could drop down to the Z platform or they're the Rison platform and still be fine right you could drop down to X 470 you could even get by with a B Series board and do what most of these things but if you're talking about data like Sirius data then plus more on a multi-screen system the stock ticker is not gonna be that big an issue video editing it's really gonna come down how how much you want to spend I know you have that budget there but if I was shopping on my own for something that I just wanted to be at an absolute warhorse then gosh that's a tough one it really depends on the price it really does I think I that's that's really difficult I'd have to really like crunch the numbers myself and and and figure out which which would be the best in terms of the the programs you wanted to use cuz there are somewhere Intel's going to benefit you a bit more on at the same time you telling me that money doesn't matter then just get the best of the best I would just go with the 99 80 xD screw it I know I know that's really tough to recommend like I don't like recommending the x-series chips that really at all because 95 to 99% of people are gonna use most of those cores anyway so I don't know that's a that's a that's a tough one but I would say just go all-in just go ham get the 99 8 exe and call it a day I mean what can you do alrighty if you're if you want to flex the muscles and you want to have as much Headroom as possible then you're gonna get that you're gonna get the overclocking Headroom to the extent that I mean your systems gonna pull a principle you're gonna do a really beefy power supply put it that way make sure you get a good board board with solid power delivery standards and I mean you're gonna need to a pin ups is for sure and and you know move on from there but yeah I'd just go all in 90 and 90 XE screw it and then go for 64 gigs of ram at least I mean I guess if you're gonna throw all in just get the best of the best fill up all eight DIMM slots and show it off to everyone who walks in let's see Fae lease hours I say name faily flowers Greg does more vram help push more higher FPS and higher resolution and games so having more VM is not going to give you a higher frame rate in itself but what it can do is reduce your frame rate if the GPU is not able to store as much in memory like if it's filling up memory entirely and it's not able to load everything it needs to then it's going to have to run all those things real time and that's going to cut into your frame rate it's going to increase the load on the GPU as a result you do have things like page filing you can store things in system RAM but it's all it's all got to move through to the GPU and it's much faster if it's already stored and insisted in the system Ram in your video memory so it's more or less a bottleneck issue that's how I would look at it so most cards aren't going to inherently bottleneck themselves there are exceptions to that rule when there are three and six good variants of cards or four and a gig variants of cards typically the lower vram offering is going to be a bottleneck sometimes and that's why they offer two options right so in the case of the 1060 the 1060 is a three gig card and a six gig card depending on which one you choose you could run into a bottleneck with your something with your video memory so if you stack on tons of texture packs and you you know extend distance scaling to max and maybe you frame scale and do all this other crazy stuff with the 1060 which I don't recommend to do with that caliber car but anyway if you did three gigs of ram might be a bottleneck in fact in a lot of modern games it will be a bottleneck so make sure that you are aware of the limitations with the game you're playing with respect to the VM that you have your disposable and just be a little you know be be flexible with your in-game settings you're going to have to adjust things especially if you're on a card with a lower amount of VRAM I would say anything under four is going to be difficult to to get by with in some modern titles that said those cards probably are going to struggle in general running those modern titles if they only have two gigs or so of RAM so that's why I don't typically recommend the 68 or excuse me the three gig 1060 because you could run into that bottleneck potentially but if you're on a tight budget and you're not looking for the best of the best in terms of in-game graphics then you could certainly drop some settings in-game and get by with three gigs so it's a bottleneck it's not something that's going to give you more frames in game if you already have enough and you have extra you know memory leftover that's not being used in the card so yep here we go scrolling down here by the way bazinga says I need to do 20 push-ups for being three minutes late see me on Twitter bazinga I'll do it let's see Spyder says his Corsair pump failed after six years I say that's pretty impressive I'm not sure what the average lifespan is or the cycle life cycle is of that pump of I'm assuming it's nice to take pump that's pretty good I would say that's to be expected I would expected it to fail earlier than that if you use your system quite often then that's yeah and that's that's no small feat for sure let's see here gate Amon asks who makes an am3+ board with MDOT - I don't know I haven't actually paid attention to that it's been a while since I've addressed MDOT - it's been a while since I've addressed a.m. 3 in general I'm actually going to revisit it very soon I don't think the board I have on hand supports MDOT to I mean you this is something you could search for yourself I could search for it but I think it's a waste of time you could do it just as quickly as I can if if there are even boards that do support it I'm not sure I haven't done that research let's see scrolling down scrolling down answer a few more questions I don't want to get into the graphics card shrouds I do have to honor the title just a little bit you guys have related questions here let's see a good question from evolve 203 hey Greg would you recommend an r5 1600 or 2600 pair with an RX 580 a gig for a gaming streaming PCM building either one's gonna be fine obviously the 2600 gonna overclock just a bit better you're gonna have more stable power delivery when you overclock up to about 4 or to 4.2 gigahertz it's a very linear scale up to a point and it's gonna really take off I would also say that if you're worried about memory speed memory frequency then going with Zen Plus will be a better option so the 2600 you will get marginally better frame rates and games because of that as well since the Infinity fabric is tied to memory speed dependencies so 26 under is a better bet it just really comes down to how much you want to spend for it you're gonna spend a little more to hit 2600 and feel good about it then get the 2600 I'm not in your shoes but that's what I would do I would just go with the the 2600 unless there was like maybe a $50 disparity between the two in which case I think the $50 you could probably push him to a better graphics card and make it for the difference in the the RAM frequency anyway so you have to play around in your market let's see scrolling down Peppa brother Dave asks what games I play I'm not sure if he's asking me or somebody else I play a lot of City skylines I love kind of like open world like simulator games so that kind of thing like any kind of sim game like I like the The Sims I played The Sims a lot growing up I like SimCity games like SimCity 4 was it was a really good one for me I even played the old-school Maxis ones like sim golf I play pub G quite a bit I play a little bit of GTA 5 still Call of Duty and then a little bit of battlefield 5 I just got in a grip which is like a rehash of roll cage Stage two or death track that was a game that I played when I was a kid on my dad's old Compaq back in the day it's really not that far back in the day but very very different from today in terms of the technology we have at our disposal yeah let's do one more question here real quick we'll get back to the questions again don't don't freak out I just do I do want to address the graphics card shrouds because we actually had quite a number of people submit pictures of either their cards or cards that they that they found online that they really like the design of and this isn't really anything scientific we're not gonna get into like the the different you know thermal solutions and how effective each is we're just gonna look at some sexy graphics card shrouds and it's gonna be our it's gonna be our little chill time here and then we'll jump back into the questions you guys are awesome asking a ton of stuff let's see here but bazinga wants me to our World of Tanks I could certainly do that let's see okay okay I'm looking for something juicy that's C Scanlon yeah yeah Andrew asks hey Greg I'm doing a 1080p build I've got a 1066 gig on an Intel 8th gen plat for it and platform am I good what kind of Intel CPU I mean I think even if you paired an i3 with that you'd be fine in 1080p honestly because the i3 is now a proper quad cores most games are gonna be still fine with 4 cores so yeah I think that's a I think that's a good target what you got going on there then you chose a6 King Varian which I think was wise as well Zeppelin asked what DL SS is literally uploaded that video yesterday so you can watch that video on your own time and then Abel what do you think of the rx 588 gig I've reviewed it so you can watch my review on an Rx 580 I've even talked about our x5 80s especially in the used market there great value really great value all right so into the topic at hand I'm going to pull up twitter here because I want to show you guys some of the yeah let's see here I'll show you guys some of the entries but just the submissions you guys made regarding your favorite GPS routes our graphics course routes so my favorite and I make no secret of this is this right here I think this is one of the the best-looking graphics card shrouds on the market and I say that for a few reasons first off I want to make very clear EVGA is not paying me or we didn't even talk about this I'm just doing that I don't even work very I haven't worked with EVGA in quite a while they send power supplies I like their power supplies a lot they use C sonic for quite a number of them I like C sonic power supplies and then I've got a few cards from them but nothing recent I just wanted to show you guys which shroud I think is the best looking and I mean it's gonna be subjective totally subjective but I really like this one because it's so it's just simple there's nothing super crazy about it I like the honeycomb design over the LEDs again very subtle LEDs black shroud black fans runs very quiet it's just a I mean it's a reference board there's nothing special about this card at all in terms of like away it's not overhauled it's not constructed from the ground up redesigned it is just I don't know I think it's very clean looking so yeah and let's see here you guys on Twitter have been sending me your opinions for the favorite for your favorite ones I'm gonna show you guys some of these live so let me get the screen capture ready to go let's see if I can all right we're gonna have to click this and then scroll down okay there we go that's pretty good alright okay so we're gonna swing this around up how does that look okay I gotta move it just a little bit further further over that doesn't really do it any good does it let's see I can do it like that ever guess not too bad yeah that'll work I think yeah okay let's see if I can zoom zoom this in just a tad sorry I'm Chuck let's try it again let's see if this works I'm not even sure if I'm like I guess I'm alive i just opened the open stream let's back up and click go alive again i'm assuming it's the same feed so we'll see i'm watching myself live and i have no idea if it's actually working or not but we'll just roll with it oh yeah this is working now okay so i'm gonna pivot back to this screen great alright I'm just gonna leave it as is I'm not gonna try to change anything about this so I'm gonna scroll down and see some entries here yeah alright I think that's really all we need to see with this I'm just joking okay so this is a transparent shroud and you know I've been I've been wondering why this isn't more common I know EVGA did something similar to this I want to say with their 2080 maybe the twenty atti of course it's a blower style card not a fan of blower style cards but it's I mean it's decent it's it's different I guess I should say and it's definitely vintage so there's that scrolling down to let's see this other entry here it's an XF extra this is an older car from a 7000 series so you would see this probably in something like a 70 to 79 no no 7970 this I'm not sure which which card this would be but I get it it's simplistic you got the silver on the top silver on the bottom got the rings around the two fans I think two fan cards look really great I do have I don't know I I do have like a secret crush on three fan cards that's what Jakob points out here these definitely look good right this is the EVGA 1080 TI this is the AC Strix equivalent and I agree these look really good but but these often cost a lot more than their to fan counterparts I mean they're just beefier cooling solutions and often times are over kill especially on the r-tx cards they're just overkill so there's there's that here's another 3:3 fan card this is the fury nitro I actually have this card I got well my brother uses it right now but this is the r9 fury and the Sapphire nitro version has three fans it actually extends this so I don't know if you can see this here but the PCB ends about right here and then the shroud extends further over and there's just kind of like a if you saw the other side of it it'd just be kind of like a plastic interweaving there on the backside so the cooler is actually a lot bigger than the PCB is and that's just because these cards generally run a pretty hot so I am let's see if we have any smaller cards yeah I see someone here Aaron says he likes the GeForce or the AC X 3.0 cards from EVGA ooh I think laggy boys being just a bit of a troll here Radeon HD 6970 with that classic blower style you guys remember the cards I had like your favorite videogame characters on them like there's a totally different time back then this one is uh it's definitely definitely old-school but I don't know okay we got some water blocks here this is a different this isn't really what I had in mind but I could definitely see how you guys would like this kind of stuff too custom cold stuff always looks good I mean you could take like I haven't even seen to date an ugly graphics card waterblock like I just I have never seen one they all look good especially when you turn the card sideways and you can see straight into it from the side of your case to me that just looks too good well let's see scrolling down here we got Mike Mike Sanchez is showing off his EVGA I'm not sure if at the ten seventy or a ten eighty they used the exact same round but he used that vertical amount and it is looking mighty fine I mean when you like a shroud this much you got to show it off right and so that's what he's doing there looking really good we have another entry for the double dissipation ghost cards this is a 70 yeah this is a 79 70 so this is the okay a close second would be the Nitro plus our 580 so SFX they're XFX cards and also the Sapphire Series card seems like there's a trend here interesting scrolling down what else do we have all right we got Donnie we've got an entry for honey nut cheerios you guys can see the honey nut cheerios right there this is not a plug for honey nut cheerios but you get the points and then we have an RX 590 looking good is it arc 590 yeah I don't have a picture but the Radeon r9 380 X nitro is the most simple yet elegant design GPU I've ever seen I even considered buying one for decoration but I do have one of these Cheerios for scale it's literally the size of a cereal box is pretty good I like it scrolling down let's see what else we have here yes super super Clarke 1060 models I like this because all these EVGA ACX cards look pretty similar even the 10 to 50 s 1050 TI's had similar shrouds so you weren't really losing the aesthetic factor when you paid less for a cheaper card I like that we have here oh is looking good I'm not sure which card this is I haven't seen it yet I'm sure it's it's probably Vega 56 or 64 or maybe that the Radeon 7 it's one of those I'm sure it looks pretty futuristic yes sapphire does a great job with cards I've got to give him credit I mean this is this is looking pretty pretty good and I guess a three fan card right so it looks like you have two larger fans these might be oh if I had to eyeball at maybe 100 millimeter fans and then this one here is probably 80 mil I'm not sure but just off the top well it might be a little bigger than that but this is looking really good I wonder if this like whole thing lights up or not I've never seen this car before I can't believe it it looks really good then you get the sapphire logo up top looks like two 8-pin so it's definitely definitely power-hungry and let's see what else we got here Jeremy is showing off his r-tx 2070 this is the EVGA card can't really see the shroud but I do I do like it when you got this the this isn't really as subtle as I'd like but when you have the glowing logo of not only the company but also the card you're sporting so people who appear inside are going to know exactly what you are sporting let's see here what else do we have anything else okay cool we got the wind force cards I agree these look pretty good so like the nine 70s like the G ones from gigabyte these worked really good I had a couple of these cards I'm pretty sure this is the nine it's added to the 970 or the 980 I might be then I say that now I might be what does it have to deviate oh I wouldn't think that's a nine I don't think that's a nine eighty or ninety DTI I might be wrong but with an eight pin and a 6 pin kind of hard to tell could be like a seven seven eighty or something I don't know sure if they use that shroud for the older stuff but that is a good-looking card I agree I remember that wind force logo load up like a deep blue it was good looking it's not that's a good entry there I agree with you on that one all right Andrew Crane saying that his is the MSI twin frozer - and you know I've got it I've got to be honest with you here this actually looks pretty sick because the shroud doesn't really cover the entire PCB it's not even covering the entire cooler actually it you can see part of the fin stack right there and then you can see these massive nickel plated copper heat pipes work in there windows pretty cool that's not bad at all this would be one of those cars I definitely want to turn sideways because those those heat pipes coming out of there just look super sexy I actually agree with you this is definitely an older car you can see sporting two DVI ports but it's still good-looking look at that you got the MSI carpet into the back plate that's pretty chill I like that one that's a that's a good one Andrew okay here it is I knew we'd see one of these Charles is partial to the new Radeon GPUs so this one here is the raid on 7 it looks like and what are you guys think about this like lit up cube in the corner they did this with with Vega and and I I mean it's it's a it's different you know is different but is it really worth I don't know to me you're stuck with red right so if you have a blue color scheme you going on then all of a sudden you got this red are like even if you turn it off you can still see that it's red because it's actually like a red plastic cube in there I don't know I just I think the shrouded stuff looks really good but but this up here in the corner it's just not my cup of tea let's just it's just not and I heard these run pretty loud so we'll see I don't have I don't have one in the studio so I can't really comment on build quad or anything but from the looks of it it doesn't look too bad let's see power house here is talking about what's he got over there that's an asus strix it looks like either i can't tell if it's an RT x card i doesn't i don't think it is because it would say RT x right there I believe so it's probably a 1070 or a 1080 oh yeah 1080i yep and that's a good-looking card I'm actually rocking the RT X 2080 right now so we are very comparable in terms of graphics graphics card horsepower my friend that's a good choice the only thing I hated about these cards and they still kind of have this issue but not as bad I messed I mentioned this in the the review of the RT X 2080 from Asus that I got is that the LEDs on the on both the the front here you can see where it says Republic of gamers and also on top the ROG logo these do not sync up perfectly like if you if you set these colors to let's say you set the whole thing to white then this is gonna look white ish and this is gonna look blue or vice versa you get what I'm saying so like they're not both going to look identical if you set these both to purple one's going to look a deeper purple and one's going to look you know a lighter shade more like pink and and they just wouldn't sync up because the LED the the zoning for the for the LEDs themselves was just off a little bit and I understand like you're trying to cram all that into a space between the back plate and PCB but still it just kind of bothered me is the only thing I didn't like about the asus strix cards but if you're not a fan i've already to be anyway you can just turn all that crap off and you have to worry about it so yeah let's see but yeah those are the entry so far if you guys have more then feel free to let me know and I'll zoom through them on Twitter and we can we can assess them so if you have an entry you guys can follow me on Twitter you huh you don't even have to follow me you just tweet at me and I'll see it so click the Twitter handle link down below in the video description upload a picture of either your rig whatever you're currently sporting or a picture that you rip from online of your favorite graphics card shroud and we'll go back through in a few minutes and reassess some of the new injuries but anyway I like the trend that's what I really wanted to get to I like the trend grab card designs are taking it's not it's I mean there's really no benefit to the way the card looks other than the fact that you feel better about the bill when you're looking at it right we put our PCs on our desk because we want to look at them we want to admire the sheer beauty and the computational power packed into such a small space especially when you build them yourselves like you feel a sense of pride that's good that's normal and on top of that having hardware that actually looks really good you know at the same time is just the icing on the cake and and I make no secret of the fact that I do probably way the this stylistic the design factor of a build more than I should because ultimately end of the day you're not gonna get any extra frame rate you're not gonna get any you know reduction in render times or anything by making your build look a little more sexy by using custom cables or whatever but I treat my builds like art I try to treat all of them like are even the cheapest ones like the three hundred dollar bills I try to make them look as good as possible not in the budget constraints that we have just because I try to take pride in what I do you know whether it's an expensive build or a cheap build you can still cable managed you can still you know try to fix some of the issues with the you know maybe I don't know I mean just you could use your imagination just things you could try to fix up make them look a little better so why I always pick on the cable management when I look at Craigslist builds you know cuz like if you're trying to sell your build and you just I can tell that you didn't take any time to make things look decent I'm just I got a call it out I mean I just what I'm thinking in my head so I'm gonna say it I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest with what the thought process that I that I have when I see ads like that you know if you if you value your time and you value your your input into your bill that you're willing to sell to somebody else in my opinion you should take a few extra moments cable manage try to clean things up on the inside especially when you're taking pictures of it post it online that's just that's just my take some people call that picky I just call that having a certain standard and I would never buy a bill unless I was doing it for for the obvious reason of buying it because it was ugly I would never buy a build that just looked trashy that had cables everywhere but it was filled with dust I do it I couldn't even if it was $100 bill I couldn't do it it just yeah I don't know STS says don't care what anyone says aesthetics matter to the buyer - absolutely yes and look you can have your own standard I'm not telling you how to buy a building out telling you what your standard should be I'm just being honest with my own standards because I mean I've been doing this for a while I think that there there's a certain way it should look and if it doesn't look anywhere close to the way that like the optimal way you know like you righted your cables you tuck them in where you should oven and you kept things out of out of the way so that you're not impeding airflow or anything like that if you did all those things that's good but if you didn't you know the verge build whoo oh oh gosh let's see here you guys are rocking and rolling up a bus growing up I'm gonna see if we have anything looking my man Zack says he just posted his card on Twitter all right we got some entries here oh yeah you guys are awesome I see the submissions looking good okay all right we're gonna have to go through these again oh yeah and we're gonna have to go through these yeah mm-hmm okay okay I think I'm just gonna scroll up in my notification feed so we can look at these okay so here we go pivoting back to very quickly the graphics card shroud since we're on this topic on the topic of aesthetics here we go let me slide this over is that gonna work I think that oh that's good enough whatever you get the point you get the point all right so Oh looking good here all right nice and juicy okay so we got you chances I came from a time when cards were single slot and yeah okay I don't even know what card that is what is it no no no contacts like GV in 95 TOC I'm sure maybe that's like a way to figure it out but yeah blue PCB with a gold shroud that's like the size of my palm what do you guys think the old-school stuff I'm sure some of our older folk have a preference toward the simpler designs I get it I mean technically you're gonna be paying more for this anyway I do like the fact that on these cards you can swap out the shrouds it's really cool that EVGA does this I like I really like just companies that give you a bit of flexibility in that sense like if you want to tweak it make it look a little more like yours you know let's say you're you prefer red then just swap the shroud out right really cool fractal does that with their their defining mesh if I cases I have well the mesh my case is for sure you can swap out the mesh front filters to me that looks just really cool it's a cool thing that they give you the option do that man you know they're not very expensive either to swap these out so yeah again it's just an aesthetic play like this is not gonna give you any extra framerate right I mean you'd have to be I don't know an idiot to think that this we gave you extra frames in-game but it's gonna look really good it's gonna make you feel a little better about your build especially if you're going for a certain color scheme so yeah and then just to touch on the EVGA 10a to TI for the win three cards in general I think this is a really nice design really do is it was one of my favorite designs honestly let's see here we got the Exelero extreme 4 on a stock GTX 1080 so you can see this shroud of this cooler extends quite a bit past the PCB this is a triple slot I mean this is one of those aftermarket ones you can kind of pack on there but yeah I mean these aren't the most beautiful in my opinion I think they're a little more rugged a little more industrial it's still it does the job right it's gonna be better than the than the stock cooler on these 1080 so hey you gotta get a quieter system make it a different look I think that's yeah that's money right there silver says that he likes this shroud right here really hoping they bring it back to the 20 DTI I would totally rock that so this is like a hybrid it is I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure like a hybrid cooler and it's a yeah the Poseidon series yeah so so it's it's active cooling in the sense that you have fans working right to cool VRML I get stuff you also have the the pass through with the water block integrated pretty sure I'm pretty sure I I've never built with this block before but I'm pretty sure that's how it works at least it's it's gonna be somewhat water-cooled unless this is just one big troll and I'm gonna sound really stupid live if that's the case but an interesting design and yeah I agree I think a C's fans look really cool there's nothing really like special about the way they look but I think that's why I like them so much because there's just there's so many fan blades and they're just kind of flat monotone it's a different look and I think that a lot of people appreciate that pictures of my old XFX rx 480 Black Edition I love the backplate yeah this black back plates were pretty cool I like how it cuts out right around that GPU brace I really like this cutout here it's not for everybody you know again it's if some people I'm sure going to hate this I'm not really sure why there are a ton of holes punched over here I don't know maybe that was just for like just letting keep pass through I have no idea you can see the blower over here like these cards they weren't the greatest in terms of cooling capacity and being able to stay quiet but I think they did a pretty good job with the reference model I think I think it frankly though NVIDIA has been doing better recently with their founders Edition cards even though it's a pain in the butt apparently to take apart the r-tx 2060 it is a beautiful card and it's a very heavy card you just tell it was just made quality attention to detail I went into it to an extent anyway Peter wants me to rate is build well Peter it's a little difficult to rate a bill that I can't really see Indian so I mean I can see the inside of it let's see here is that what is this what is it that your that your USB 3.0 cable you should probably swing this thing through this little rubber grommet here that way it's just poking over just like that right that's that's the first thing that I noticed let's see you have your a i/o tubes you have one going way up there I don't know where it comes back down but well that's all right you have a green color scheme very clearly this is kind of it's kind of bothering me over here that white led you got everything else is green I know you can't change that that's still I mean to clean build though apart from this cable this is the only thing that really caught my attention I think it's not bad and you have looks like a Corsair 5 70 X not my favorite case the build in it's a difficult case to build in but it is a beautiful case so I'll give you that oh yeah it's not bad if I had to rate it on a scale of one to ten just from an aesthetic standpoint I'd say it's like a 7.5 I don't think it's I don't think it's ugly enough to be like a 6 but I don't think it's like super beautiful to wear it I want to rate you an 8 or 9 I'm gonna be kind of savage when it comes to this stuff but I mean yeah let's see next one is the Radeon so these are the the mega cards we were talking about and this one's a gold one I mean do you really like it it's gold it's just an interesting color scheme like I don't know I this was that I forget what this is this is like that initial like launch model I forget what they called it somebody knows what they call this but anyway I think it's OK again this goes back this is like similar to how AMD does most of their founders cards with that blower style cooler the back plates look pretty cool as we just saw but you know the Titan cards the Titan founders edition cards I think I like this better than I like the radar card here I mean this is - this is too plain for me like you got this random yellow logo and then you got the blower and that's really it right but then you get up here you get to this one I know you can't really see it very well it's a small image but to me this just this just looks more appealing you can see inside you can see the fin stacks in there they've done a little more here to make the the blower seem like it's a part of the shroud and then it's all black on top of that and I'm a big fan of all black components so that that looks really good now you got to pay a price tag for this and it's no no small price tag but still if we're just judging aesthetically speaking I think this is this is pretty good it's one of my favorite ones alright scrolling up here we have the old 780ti from msi this is looking good this is another one of those where like it's a very particular color scheme so if you like yellow a lot then this is gonna be something that you really enjoy there's I mean as far as I know there was nothing really spectacular about this card but it was a beefy card and it kept things rather cool 780ti wasn't the most efficient but it you know when paired with a cooler like this wasn't it wasn't bad at all stayed pretty quite as far as I know it's been a while since I've touched 782 I the last 72 t I tested actually I only tested one 780ti I want to say I often go back and find that video if I even made a video on it I know I bought one from eBay but I don't know if I actually made a video I bought a 760 and I made a video on that one too oh well I threw it into a bill then anyway anyway yeah so this is cool again I like you how they have the two larger fans I think is probably close to 100 mil fans or maybe ninety eighty mill and then a smaller one here in the Sun this one actually looks more like 80 mil but yeah so another one that I actually I agree with that and we have another entry for the I see XFX ffft w3 from EVGA this is a good looking card can't deny it and is this a white shroud I can't tell if it's white or silver but either way it's ages looks really good this is one of those cards I'd want to turn sideways you know you know Titan X this is the the Jedi the last order I want to say the the specials and this one I'm going to happen to the picture anyway it just looked a little everybody it was cool it supposed to be like a lifesaver basically moving on we have the the Kraken so we have the NZXT was this the g12 bracket and we have a crack and it looks like cooler stamp to it compatible with a so tech pumps and NZXT is kind of lit up over there yeah this is a nice shroud I don't know if I made a video dedicated to the bracket I want to say I did I know I have a couple in the inventory but I don't know if I have a used one yet I just haven't had to use one but yeah this is a cool idea and then I'm frankly I mean they're pretty popular too as far as I know people that want to you know water cool their graphics cards but don't want to throw custom loops into Ricks can do something like this and keep their graphics cards a nice and chilly at least until those water temps warm up so yep we have a quite a number of entries still we'll get through those I don't want to take up all your time just looking at graphics cards routes but it's fun to just kind of reminisce to an extent and also just imagine how much better graphics cards they're going to look ten years from now five years from now like what are we gonna have next like what's the next big thing right RGB was so cool four or five years ago now people are just either upset by it or expect it and probably both and so you have to expect this will move into something else right if it's not RGB what's it gonna be next what's the next big thing so I imagine RGB will stay in the mainstream for quite a while but there'll be something else I think added to it some other way to manipulate the colors that will help graphics cards sell because there are so many options out there yeah it's ZOTAC gigabyte EBG a msi I mean heck even like companies like asrock or making graphics cards now and like wow you know like all this competition granted a lot of them are designing their own custom PCBs but still they're all gonna perform fairly similarly especially like with these r-tx cards they're all held back by their power limits right so they're all gonna run at 60 70 degrees Celsius it's really just gonna come down to how expensive they are and how good they look and that's where these companies are trying to set themselves apart do they look really good can you customize this can you change this it's just another competitive advantage they're trying to take advantage of I don't blame them I do the same thing if I was in that market so I mean this exciting stuff for us competition is a good thing and we're you know I expected we'll keep will continue to see things like this over time all these new launches all these new cards new shrouds new designs I'd love to be a member of the design team for graphics card shroud so that would be so fun III would have to also keep in mind that the shroud itself should not really limit the cards ability to cool itself that's a separate issue we'd have to run several tests to verify or deny any claim relating to that but yeah it'd be really cool Cole says I think more minimal minimalist minimalist designs are going be more popular in the future man probably I mean look AMD's kind of already banking on that right with their founders edition cards so well not founders edition cards yeah I mean the reference cards so it's possible it could be possible let's see yeah Quinn Valentino says stupid question man there's no stupid question unless you're trying to be stupid but you know this is a genuine question would it be a stupid idea to try and put a different cooler on my GTX 10 80 gigabyte g1 gaming no rgba gig card plagued by coil one coil whine we have a video talking about coil line uh house I almost pointed to a card that's not going to show up type in science to do coil line I talked about what it is I had an issue with that in my XPS 13 it is a board issue more than likely you could have some sort of wine coming from the fans someone from the the bushings but it's probably going to be a board issue and it's gonna be really difficult to isolate that there things like you can kind of like coat some components like inductors on the board with like a coating that prevents them from rattling that's basically what coil wine is when you run current through them they may ride will they make a lot of noise yeah it's that high-pitched squeal you typically here when cards are under load when power is being pushed through those components but it's gonna be a board issue more than likely so I don't think changing the shroud or changing the cooler on the card is going to do you much good I hate to say that you could try I mean if you had some time on I've on a weekend you want to try it out what the heck but I'm just I don't want to get your hopes up because I I don't think you're gonna be too too surprised by the results especially after after now let's see yeah I just saw Will's picture on Twitter will is ready for some pub G well half the place in pub G after this okay I'm waiting for somebody something like I don't know why my I got fiber I have like gigabit internet and I can't even load in some of these pictures or maybe it's just your account may not be allowed to a form to perform this action I can't open a picture from somebody tweeting at me well see anyway we're gonna go back here just want to make sure I'm gonna scroll through Wow plenty of entries now you guys this is awesome stuff here is more more content more stuff show off so I'm going through these making sure there's nothing weird and yeah looking good okay so I'm gonna pivot back to the screen and we're gonna go back down here all the way back down to one of our last ones was I believe the Titan may be a Titan card yep so we have you can't really see it here Eddie's wanting us to rate his first build looking good looks like you read all the cables in the right spot so that's nice you had one of those power supplies I had like the not daisy chain you know what I mean there's like the connected VGA cables I know exactly what I know how big of a pain those are to deal with and I'll actually like what you did there yeah it looks like you took a zip tie and you just tied it down so it didn't hang awkwardly it's actually a pretty clever idea I like that looks like you got something similar to a hyper 212 Evo up there you get two dims and everything's clean over here just looking at this looks like a pro not a Frank maybe a fractal piece I don't know it's not a fractal case I can't tell what kind of case it is but look you did everything that you could have done I think given the time that you had in the space that you had in parts that you had I do see this one cable back here though yeah there yeah you got this one cable this one small okay what would its kind of bothering me so maybe try to stuff this between the the right side of that fan frame and like the the rear i/o ports maybe if there like a rear i/o shield you can stuff it between that the fan frame kind of work its way up and and plug it in through something in the back if you're plugging in straight up right there you can still do something with that you can tuck that in somewhere that's the only thing I see now and that's being that's me being picky so I think with what you got there you didn't you didn't you did very well so that's a nice build I'd give that for what you got there another seven and a half out of ten maybe an 8 out of 10 just in terms of what you had to work with you know maybe not from like an overall aesthetic quality it's not the prettiest looking bill just cuz you know it's just a it's just a hyper 212 Evo pretty generic graphics card but again you you work with what you so I like that I'd give you a higher rating than the other guys that I read it nothing nothing personal let's see here Kyle tuned sapphire rx 580 well how do you guys like these sapphire cards alright this is this isn't we good feedback for them if they watch this video so this is looking good the the two fan design again looks like a shroud I'm not sure these are actual indents or not I had one of these cards I just don't remember if it was like if you could actually feel the rivets in the shroud or not none then these look like maybe 80 to 100 mill fans so I looking good you can see the heat pipes there on the side nickel plated copper as always looking good alright let's see what else we got here oh yeah can't go without mentioning this one I think this right here is probably the most clever thing that gigabyte could have done with these cards remember I was talking about right the graphics cards needed to set themselves apart aesthetically and gigabyte just hit the nail on the head here I really like this the only reason why I don't think this is the most beautiful design overall and I'm talking about RGB LEDs everything else is because the shroud itself I mean I understand they wanted to pretty much open it up entirely for you to be able to see because there's only one LED per fan so there's not like it's not like there's an LED on every fin it's just one fin that there's an LED on per fan and the fan spins so fast and they all kind of sync up through the software that you can actually run cool designs and transitions with them so yeah I know this isn't a cheap card by any means I'm actually working on painting one of these why you haven't seen my app review quote-unquote review of it yet but when I get it painted white it should look super sick so we'll see but anyway yeah I like this I like this design a lot it's just the shroud is just a little weird for me that that's all that's the only reason why I didn't say it was my favorite y'all saw MSI r-tx card look at that look at that six pin plus an eight pin plus and is that another six pin or I think it's another eight pin I'm pretty sure but yeah that's another excuse me good-looking one from em aside the the trio the gaming yeah gaming extra oh come on up here we have another gtx 1070 EVGA six 3.0 cooler I always loved the 1070 s I really do like these cards a lot scrolling up again we got the out here miss my card okay that's as cool yeah I have a couple five eight that are like this I like the dragon design I like the backplane I think this is it's a clean looking back plate here and then he missed I also did a good job with the shroud as well it's nothing super fancy but you know it's a typical black and red MSI fashion nice fans with those really slanted blades their cards run pretty cool as well we go on old school absolutely a terrible choice for most users but it looks amazing yeah I'm not sure I agree with you on that one um just gonna be honest it just doesn't look that appealing to me that's just my that's just my opinion blower style cards from Galax that's cool and all but like what the heck is this crap going on here I just don't I don't get it anyway it might be like a vintage option for for some people but yeah I mean and we have another picture here from from his rig this is that g12 bracket again looking really good 7700 you lidded 5 gigahertz nice build my dude I like this black and red color scheme you did really good with this one and another one Matthew likes the Strix cards I agree the Strix do look good again just apart from that small little caveat with the RGB sync up there right this this color here will be slightly different than the r2bees here like do you want these to be white this would be slightly bluish it just it always bothered me with that series of card I'm not sure where this one went it's just a Brown image I even clicked on it and there was really nothing there so sorry pio pio trade you have you say that name Dan Smith here we go the titan Jedi so that's what I want to see a picture of these he's like really cool it's just like you know I'm like a basically if you're a fanboy or fan girl or whatever Star Wars and this is I mean come on like this is this is pretty sweet I would just I want one of these just because you know if just because it has some connection to to the Star Wars series like anything Star Wars related its kind of gonna be pretty expensive and 5200 years and then also the ROG 22 TI matrix okay yeah this is looking nice here I have not seen this card before actually and what aces has been doing now that is with the the the cheaper r-tx cards as well you see the fan blades are connected to the frames so I want to run some tests to see if this is actually a good idea or not but I mean I don't think it's gonna be too big a deal they might be slightly more turbulent but that's a good design I would say that's a really clean design I have another sapphire card here this is a sapphire nitro Vegas 64 card in that looking good I like what you did there with those cables you know when you don't have a custom cut out down there for four cables or maybe you don't have a basement at all this is an option and I like what you did with that looking good that's from broken token network and then Edward o-5 old 8800 ultras in SLI my friend yeah not sure I agree with you on that but if you again if you have a I don't know you have a thing for old school stuff and certainly this is a contender just not my cup of tea and then now let's see here we have an RT x 27 t and this one another EVGA card EVGA cards always look good we saw a few more of those earlier and Nathan wants us to rate his build so you got the cooler master half alright and you get that big old fan dude I'm not sure if that's like dust or what but if it's dust you better clean that up and then look at the inside here cool small cool like you got like a 27 and then you got like this I can't tell what platform this is but it doesn't look new and dual intelligent processors - I wish I could see more writing I feel like it's blocked you got this TR - rx 850 watt power supply down here from Thermaltake okay and then yeah I mean you gotta clean it up dude like you got dust everywhere that's that's my biggest gripe with this one you got cables kind of strode out like pull all that back tuck all that in you know take some time and clean it up but I'm gonna go a long way maybe upgrade this CPU cooler I'm sure you don't need it this older platform but you know like if you put like a a top flow cooler that look really cool we'd have a fan just like facing you that'd be nice that would be something that I'd consider if you had them if they had the budget for it another EVGA 1080i looking good and then we'll wants to play a pub G so I hope you guys enjoyed a little bit of fun with this one something a little different I just wanted to I don't know I want to dice up these live streams a little more we do the Q&A is pretty much every time we live stream we've been doing them for way this is like our 36th episode now so I appreciate you guys watching we have about 300 people watching that is awesome I encourage you guys if you have time and you miss stuff earlier in the segment to rewind when this is archived check out some of the GPU shrouds a graphics card travels we were looking at and just kind of express your opinions in the comment section below interesting to to see what you guys think about those the old ones and the new ones because there's a lot of a lot of differences between the old cards and the new ones the trends have changed definitely so it's interesting to to go back and reminisce and then also look forward to the future designs as well so I'm gonna answer a few more questions it's about 10:00 p.m. I don't want to stream too far past 10:00 p.m. but if you guys have questions then I encourage you to drop those in the chat box now before we get out of here you can see will is spamming the discord link if you are not a member of the discord I don't know what I mean I don't know like I I don't know why you're not like you should be it's totally free won't charge anything for access to it or anything like that you can join it you can chat with myself chat with Bryan from tech yeah City you can chat with will man will behind the scenes and we can play some games together it's basically all we do on the discord so if you enjoy doing stuff like that just kind of goofing off I think that's it nicholas is asking where pepsi is she's not in this room usually she's in this room but she's not she's not currently so I think I'm kind of glad because when she's in here and I'm talking like making a lot of noise or whatever I'm moving and filming and building she's always kind of like what what's going on what's going on she'll like walk through stuff she'll like walk inside the computer cases I can't get in there I'm gonna pull her out she'll bite cables she's in that like adolescent stage right now she's like a borderline teenager and cat years so it's just pain but yeah McLovin of president 2020 mclubbe of a president I see you guys see you guys I'll make sure Jacob sees those I'm sure he'll appreciate it Jarek top five white cases I don't have five cases in my head right now I don't wanna drag it out too long but I would say my two or three favorite ones if I'm we're talking about all-white cases I like the leniently PCO limit dynamic why that's one of my favorite cases today in the price category for sure I also like the the s340 it was a really good white case I think yes 340 elite was it was a good just like the next logical step like I said in my review of the IH 500 the H 500 also looks good in white it's not a totally white case though there are a few others but the the Leone case comes to mind first that to me is just like one of the best looking white cases on the market that's see silver says ah so your fluff monster likes to clam and your case is - uh I don't know what is I feels like being in like a cave you know it makes them feel secluded like they they have control over their environment a little more I think it's probably what it is you know they're like curious anyway like climbing on top of stuff and trying to figure out what's going on mr. cave gaming he says man I basically missed the show I've missed it for the past what seems like two months now shame on me shame on you mr. KF gave me I'm just kidding I I owe you can always go back and watch that this is actually really cool opposite I think you'll enjoy the stuff we talked about we were looking at graphics card shrouds basically the whole episode so if this is archived but will be archived fairly soon you can go back if you have some time and scrub through that let's see you're scrolling up up up up up up let's see here yeah good night says he likes the cooler master eh 500 M yeah that's a good one as well I have actually did a review on that as well I built in it it's a nice case it's just a little too big for me I think it's just when cases get that big and they're I don't know I don't have enough hardware to fill all that space stuff it just kind of bothers me that's why I like the smaller mid tower case is like the S 340 the mesh if I see now even though the 11 dynamic not because it's it has a lot of space a lot of water cooling room but you can fill it up very easily with some fans you can turn your graphics card sideways it pretty much takes up that whole you know left compartment there so anyway you guys have been awesome if you guys want to play pub G with us I'm sure we're gonna jump on here very soon I gotta turn the AC on it's boiling in here I appreciate you guys watching sorry about staring at the screen the whole time and reading comments as I go but you guys have been awesome again I do appreciate you taking time out of your Sunday night or Monday to hang out with us and be sure to leave a comment down below if you want the comment to be permanent because it's going to disappear in the chat but yeah you guys are awesome I appreciate it and we'll be doing this again next week I am going where I'm actually taking Lisa on a long-overdue honeymoon so we're gonna be out for about 10 days starting the beginning of the next week not this week but the next week so after this next Sunday we'll be out for about a week or so I'm gonna try to get some content lined up for you guys I won't be here to really monitor much of it but so I won't be as active in the comments but hopefully you guys have some time to watch those videos as well I'll try to make them juicy for yes and somewhat entertaining and not not as controversial really because I for controversial videos I like to be there like I like to read comments and I understand why people are saying what they're saying and sometimes I'll argue with them sometimes I'll clarify something I said in the video that needs clarification so we'll try to do something more fun while I'm gone so it's not too stressful on my end but anyway stay tuned for that stuff you guys have been awesome I will catch you in the next video coming up here very soon I expect Tuesday and then again for our final live stream before I'm out for a week so yep keep staying pretty and we'll talk again very soon