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so this is the nostalgia room here at the be queit HQ in hamburg they're a bunch of old systems behind me some are new but a lot of these are comprised of older components and the reason why is because once these power supplies are developed they have to be put through a bunch of tests and obviously not everybody who owns a PC is using the most up-to-date hardware so be quite likes to make sure that their power supply still function on older hardware which is usually not as power efficient as their newer counterparts now the person in this beautiful room is Kristian Rex he is the technical director of power supplies here it'd be quiet and he's about to give us a full tour of all the stuff that's in here so this system here for example this is a twelve thirteen hundred watt consumption there isn't a 1300 1300 watt power consumption right totally nice nice regard along with our nine to nine 510 a two who have to see us for four-way cross fire and a big CPU Wow even gets an older set of excessive hair yeah this actually here you can see all my changing systems because sometimes also after cells have maybe some problems from end user for compatibility so I always keep the old systems can directly change to test the power supplies and figure out what it kind of problem they have me so the further power supply is to be able to deliver a lot of power and it's very short amount of time that's taxing on it on a PSU like the demand for power being so quick now because of just the ability for these cards to fluctuate power demand so fast if this is the main problem for the powder but if you have a key power supply it you it will easily shut down the system because you cannot reach the very fast loading changes right and our power supply from straight power up to dark power all has 99% of their loading can provide the 12 volt only because the video cards and the TV all all these 12 all right so and here for example we do some testing for the amp ere's go through the card and comes out from the card so I use a current probe here to see how is it totally distribution of the 12 occurrence it's very interesting that not the Tavella fault codes in BBJ card also comes out from the ground because some current also go through the TC i--'s log deck and comes out from the fanny pocket for a while so that's why we also need to figure out how it is and then we can set up our fault apply it's amazing how big is the current actually on each wire you can see he already have 12 ampere going to the video card NSSL times 12 volts correct yes so 240 what already Wow going from this cable in the VGA card and you can see the backside the ground is only less than 11 unpair so means 1 point 5 ampair goes somewhere comes not back directly from here so it's going on the motherboard sam yeah or he is more critical this VJ card Oh according amperes in and only 9 point something okay out so all others go to mainboard and in the end you can see it comes here in this guy's to be back to the parts of lat wow we also we have a manual chroma you may be in all this time yes yes well I'll take it one down yeah this is actually the same but only mate we call it manually one so I can adjust the I'm pissed on myself by programming here can load my power supply and can see also for the cross loading problems maybe what is the voltage regulation and I can also put my power supply connector here with the longer wire put in my small chamber and this I can heat up to 50 degree Wow so I also can test a very reverse case for the power supply and see what will happen in the high temperature so you literally take a power supply and you just plug all the characters into here as you would a regular motherboard and that's where the power is being delivered yeah that's where you can monitor and control it in these boxes yes Wow but actually not only test by this way because this is just a passive locally so it's just like a resistance right so if you want to really understand the power supply you need to really load it on the real system right actually different story I can control something I can make frequencies here everything but you never can make it like a real system that's why they were testing them both like they would test them on the chroma and then never taken the real years and that's why also a nexus year without systems you cannot really make sure the possibly really right right how much is like just one race chroma module cos you know the cost for the whole set here actually they said it's a power meter in here this reloading units and the AC source is around 20k oh wow around $20,000 right if this is from chroma actually I know like this more so actually that's why I create my own one but it's not installed yet haha my own email okay sir we did it with the supplier together so actually for me this is more easier to plug it here always you need to use some adapters because you don't have enough connectors here so this always have lost so I recreate this one can better connect 24 pin p8 also means CPU 1gb you two and I have four connectors for video cards and I also can put SATA and molex here and I can directly measure here also the rouble noise I use golden connectors here so it can directly detect by scope and measure the ribbon noise like this was like some kind of mining rig this is actually I build a mining system but in fact not really for mining we have an account for sure but right there the main point is I want to understand the 12 volt distribution to the system SS because we saw and we found out that many users do it in wrong way if they have for example a VGA card and you have normally this kind of bridges here you need to support this by power and they deliver a SATA adapter so if a plug from power supply is outta here it's only one wire normally twelve volt and what the end users do is they have the cable that's maybe for connector they can save blah blah blah blah make four pieces on one wire so they're falling a lot went on just on the table is cost Jake that's why I test here how is the best way to connect it and then we make a small briefing we also send to ourselves and after self guide so they can teach customers how to connect by and ability to sum up with ten graphic cards yeah I imagine to sell between about two thousand eleven and we are lucky we got the main board from the Mabel supplier from the vendor to sorting PCI slot the special mate for mining that's what's funny is it's an h1 ten board like it's not even like I talked here no man even if I three only in yeah that's it yeah that's why they were concerned about like and i3 prices you know because you don't need a super powerful seat actually I reach articles that many people use silver on yeah yes I thought the important is a young video card this I built also by myself from totally passive load without fan because the problem is as a turn on this you cannot check noise from the power supply because I machine is too loud so I use this way I can test my power without noise so this one directly make 400 to the power supply but without noise so I can check very in detail if we have some noise inside from components or from the same because we develop a sentence about yourself that's 400 watt Loretta this is formal but Wow and I have another one in my other room is up to 800 baht so 400 watt came in here you hear nothing and defense still only that is the same voltage I always measure okay only 2.9 to world so actually just in the beginning nothing actually we have some buffer inside also from the component so the fan even up to 50 60 % just rotate in the beginning and what we do beside other power supply vendors is we always let the sense in even in the beginning because you here by yourself you cannot hear them right right but the problem is if you use for example is any passive solution when you support a cause of like when they do this so they up to 40% the fan will not spin for example right right the problem is your component getting more hot in this situation and actually your lifetime being much more shorter also to prevent this because we also give the 5 years warranty for the power supply we let the fan always been to have always some airflow even very small but still have air flow right to take the components really think about it like having it off versus having it on what its lowest setting it's indistinguishable so you'd rather get the airflow and there's nothing to lose really I'm like I know because I think a lot of power supplies that do have that like the auto shutoff mode it will just stop turning the fan altogether but this is what the component this is risk actually right right and I also do the design with our vendors together for the PCB so for the component positions you can see I always try to make big space inside and put the components to out in a minute in the center so I have very good airflow in really go in and directly comes out from here so the fact that you have to be able to route all those connections on the TV it yourself so we make all the see the daughter ports all those connections and we found a layout to make it smoothly without wires and at the same time managed to keep as de components far enough apart to allow for altima airflow yeah it's always a big work to design the power supply not only from electronic aside from the logic from the topologies also how where you put the components and there are there are also other rules you cannot move maybe the main transformer too far away from the SR otherwise you have too many lost another one so you need to take everything actually the topology similar supplier ok but I work together with them to move the things to what I understand from my experience what is the best airflow what is the best heat consumption this power supply comes also from FSP SSA ok we've worked with several of them do have an idea we we work with some different suppliers but sure fsp is still our main a certain volume ok is that the same for the dark power is ok FSP because they have the best solution for the high quality high wattage high level power slack right so no hands get I have my small Museum here with all the old hahaha power supplies just like cabinet volunteers here yeah but this is I can show you another room this is stash right here really have an entire floor dedicated to this power supply stacked on top yeah because I always need to test if end-user have some question and it from every series every model in my hands I cannot always go to where else put another one out right right oh I need to stock here now the all the new power supplies Chris was saying those all use the same modular configuration so uses what I would I have no actually our dark power our straight new straight power show up power zone and even pure power the cable are competitive that scare each other that's awesome my viewers know why I keep asking that question he showed us a stash over there yeah and from from my job scene so I control the developing I control the quality management and the project manager this was a beautiful around even for me I like to sit here especially on this desk there if I can solder something do by hand work so we have the fresh air yeah so how long have you been in this position with the acquired I work in this one or twelve use Target and in this position for be quiet also over ten years or ten years or Wow I do the developing for it quite possibly what is the noise it's kind of rounded someone want to argue with me maybe one of these guys better your ante or something so these are reading power just from being wrapped around the table actually you know need to to tattoo to make some connection it's used by magnetic coil Oh make it they measure the neck neck field XY is a very good technology yeah that's really cool to say like how because you're not actually connecting anything physically it is Kayla's it apart I did like this so I built my adapters with the voltage and amperage I need to put a wire here connect to vga card connect to here or energy our case we ampere perfect to complicate this is much easier this is really nice so this allows you to isolate power consumption to each table even I can just only use one wire or two wire whatever I want easy easily to change are these like available like commercially available yeah I've actually I bought this in I don't know the you know the store Congress it's a it's a very big store in Germany for electronic things okay and the brand is Warcraft so it's not so expensive actually and no need 0.01 exactly no need in the area no need to perfect if I want to have perfect results I use my chroma right and right then I have perfectly results but for this to see the distribution of the power is totally enough this is really cool not to go on violence cure they get for troubleshooting in general this actually is 35 euro one piece for a while yeah guys I just have the IVA typical like what fluke voltmeters and somewhere yeah like to play it the program so you can't invent you high current and diffuse from the from the tool broken if you really long wires and measure up to 100 amperes oh gosh yeah anything PC related you can say fine we'll probably check this out a Quad SLI setup of GTX 260 s how many of these are going to see in a lifetime so he's got motherboard sorted by socket type so 11 51 51 FM 2 a.m. 3 + LGA 2011 FM - 9 39 mm 1 a.m. 3 1155 1156 you can't really see those but a good really old here look at that LGA 775 423 478 462 well we found a gap in the rain to finally film the Astra for this video it's pretty slow the other typical Hamburg summer you know it's like you know 16 Celsius and like showers going down all the time and it's just crazy and so this is just one part like of the hole right yeah behind as you can see actually like gather like half of the main building and now you went there just finished our tour and yeah what's pretty interesting it was I love it we appreciate you guys open up your doors for us and yeah behind the scenes stuff is really cool to see how all is distributed how it's all tested troubleshooted it's cool at all that's on site and like we saw even the fact that you guys had like just kind of makeshift pcs to train people who don't even have to work with PCs hands on just so that they are familiar with the cojones yeah exactly that's really nice so they know each other at least the basics you know when you're like you know want to sell it you know you need to know a little bit about it you know that's good that's good so that's really nice to see so we've had a lot to cover today in this tour I think it's gonna be two videos it's not more just because there's so much to see so much to test and find out that Kris really appreciate you coming out it was really nice to you to do this for us yeah alright no worries when we back in Germany very soon so alright thank you iron Studio thanks for touring with us