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this is the big shirt into from sight we reviewed it and dedicated video you can check it out of the card up there this is the big shirt and three you can see it's a slightly beefier version both of these models have five copper heat pipes although these are nickel-plated and apart from that there isn't much of a difference the fans are slightly different we'll talk about that and the temperature differences are noticeable there's nothing substantial going on with big shirt and three of the big shirt and two didn't already have going forward they're both small compact cooler so they're not going to perform as well as say a hyper 212 Evo but for the price and considering the form factor applications I think these are decent coolers and right now you can really only buy the big shuriken three of the shuriken two is pretty old and kind of phased out because there's no am for support with that cooler big shuriken 3includes am for support and it's pretty much the same size again we'll talk 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aesthetically you can see it has a nice black frame that wraps all the way around the heatsink and the I don't really know how I feel about this and the nickel plated copper pipes look okay I actually prefer the bare copper piping I think it's just a nice contrast to the aluminum in stacked but I mean it's not a big deal in terms of sheer weight to the picture in three definitely weighs more and that is proud to testament to this coolers ability to absorb a bit more and we do noticeably have more surface area that these fins are covering because they are longer and they are as of dense I actually didn't check density before and say yeah the fin density is about the same but the fin depth as in how far the fins reach down into the cooler definitely close to doubled with the big shirt in three so I expect a better cooling performance I mean that's just the bigger the cooler typically the more heat it can handle as for the two fans you get with these coolers this is the big shuriken to span you can see it's very very slim 120ml form factor it's a four pin pwm fan this is the big shuriken threes fan it is also a pwm fan but this one has rubber vibration mounts on both the front and back sides of this fan you also have a dark gray tone this time around versus the straight black so it could look better or worse depending on the color scheme of your build and the one big catch the one perhaps negative especially when seen in the context of this form factor is this fans thickness if I hold up the big shuriken to span you can see it is noticeably thinner I would say almost maybe half a centimeters and maybe will over half a centimeter thicker than the big shuriken choose and that doesn't sound like a lot I heard why are you being super picky well because the big sure can to barely fit in some of my favorite ITX cases including the frackle design note 202 with this fan on the big shirt in three it won't fit so I've got a fragile note or two here this is actually one the previous builds have showcased on the channel check it out in the card up there I have both coolers as well and I'm just gonna I'm just gonna set them on top you can see the cooler barely clears the frame and that's why this cooler is like perfect for the note 202 in fact we can keep the dust filter of the no 202 in this case and the frame itself will actually sit against the fans frame but it won't interfere with the rotation of the fins at all so it's again a perfect fit now in the case of the big sure again three I get nice and low and you can see that the fan frame clearly extends past the height of the chassis and even when we remove the dust filter in the no 202 we there's no way to secure this right so a solution if you want to call it that is to swap this fan for the big shuriken to fan now it is an extremely tight fit in fact the big shuriken 3 without the fans is still slightly taller than the shuriken 2 but if you swap the thicker fan for the shuriken to fan you can make it almost work again you have to remove the dust filter and it's gonna press right against that it might even flex just slightly but it's better than having no support at all so it is a shame that you have to do this to get it to work you have to modify not just the cooler but also the case you have to remove the dust filter that's a shame but it's it's possible I will say that it's possible so this is the big shuriken 3 cooler with the shuriken 2 fan installed I'm going to actually not installed it's just kind of resting on top of it and no issues you can screw this in no problem and this is without the cooler secured so that will lower it just slightly but enough to where you won't have any issues with the fans fins scraping against the chassis so yeah that's a bit of supporting I mean you hold these two coolers side-by-side and in terms of height they look to be about the same size knew that going with a fan like this was going to improve their new cooler in two regards first off the cooling potential the cooling performance of the cooler in question was going to improve because of this fan can displace more air perf in this fan from the big shuriken to has many more fins because the fins themselves can't be angled sharp enough to this place to same amount of air per fin so you have to compensate by adding more fins that increases the sound of the tone actually the tone itself is a bit higher pitch than this one this is a lower pitched sound which I think is a bit harder for the human ear to pick up and so yeah it was a big trade-off basically the cooler is definitely quieter the big shuriken 3 is and the cooler is definitely a better performing cooler in terms of temperatures but you eliminate compatibility with some very important cases and I think that's a missed opportunity now let's talk about ease of installation big shuriken 2 has a fairly easy install process you have two brackets one on each side of the cold plate you can see we have four mounting points here typical Intel form factors are supported here and then you have a basically a bracket at retention plate on the backside that will hold this cooler again the motherboard against the CPU and there are just four screws to secure so really how you want to do this is put the cooler face down flip your motherboard upside down smoosh it against the cooler and then screw in the four points from the back of the motherboard and that's literally all you have to do so secure the brackets flip it over screw it in from the back there you go the picture again three is actually a bit more difficult to install in my opinion but part of the reason why that's the case is because you now have an for support and when you add support for both AMD and Intel under the same cooler and I'm sure manufacturers are aware of this I've seen many coolers that have to kind of accommodate in unique ways you have to do some interesting things and make the process just a bit harder for the average builder to get this to work across multiple platforms I did a decent job considering you do have these two pre-installed screws that sit across this little retention plate on top of the cold plate and you screw these two into a bracket that you secure from the back of the motherboard the bracket itself includes a couple more steps because you do have to first off secure that to the motherboard before you mount the cooler itself but overall I'd say the install process though it is a bit longer is just as simple as the big shuriken choose and of course including a m4 support now is a huge plus now let's talk temps you can see four coolers here obviously the picture in three and two are included but also the be quiet dark rock slim and the cooler master hyper 212 black edition with average temps in blue and max temps in orange you can see that the hybrid 212 Evo squeaked out a win over the be quiet dark rock slim just a 1 degree Celsius Delta there 73 ver 74 average temps were pretty much the same by the way average temps really aren't saying much for us here although it is more or less a baseline to indicate that there was nothing obscure about the way I was testing so it's more or less a check for me I wouldn't focus too much on those max temps though for the big shuriken 3 reached 77 degrees Celsius about a three degrees bump over the dark rock slim and then the big shuriken 2 reached a pretty toasty 81 degrees Celsius for the exact same rig now I want to encourage you not to compare these results with previous results I've posted on the channel regarding the dark rock slim and the 212 black edition I have a totally different setup here for these so it's the exact same components but the our clocks are different the voltages are different and I had to do that because these smaller coolers here couldn't handle the manual over clocks that we were originally push eight next that we have perceived sound intensity obviously measured in decibels we have a sound meter now so our results for the top two coolers are gonna be slightly different than what you've seen in previous videos the dark rock slim I wrote at thirty five point two decibels at 40 point one decibels under load forty two point three for the hyper 212 black edition only slightly louder for the big shuriken three forty three point two and forty four even for the big shuriken two so taking into account solely the price and the performance metrics you just saw I'd say the big shirt in three is a worthy upgrade in fact they're not really charging much more at all for a substantially better cooler in my opinion but the big issue that we have to come back to again is compatibility because this cooler is noticeably taller and that will restrict the use case of this cooler especially in smaller form factor builds involving cases like the fractal node 202 I'll say it again just for emphasis because a lot of you are asking about that so if you're willing to modify it just a little bit maybe use an even slimmer fan like the one that's included in the big shirt and to then by all means the big shuriken 3 is a great cooler for those lower profile builds but if I you know if I was building like a micro ATX or a full-size ATX build then the big shirt in 3 obviously wouldn't be my first choice the the hyper 212 Black Edition and the dark rock slim which there are up some is more expensive the hyper 212 is is fairly cheap actually around 30 or 40 bucks so cheaper than big shuriken 3 is a better cooler overall it's it keeps temps lower and it also runs quieter and in my opinion it looks pretty sweet at the same time especially the Black Edition so if you're building a standard size PC it makes no sense in my pan to go with a big shuriken 3 and less for whatever reason you like those top flow coolers but there are better top flow coolers out there instead the only viable use case I see for the big shirt and 3 is again in the low profile builds and when you make it taller and reduce compatibility you're kind of counteracting the only competitive advantage you have in this space so I really wish scythe had lowered the height of this to where it fit you know into the same cases that big shuriken 2 did because right now it's about a centimeter to a tall and there's really not much more you can do to modify the cases in question to make this fit so it's unfortunate but I I can say with certainty this is a better cooler for the price so it's kind of a mixed bag and the conclusion is kind of it's kind of weird for me to draw because I really like it but can you actually use it in your build it ultimately comes down to the case you choose the form factor and set it up but let me know what you think about it in the comments below if you guys like this video a thumbs up I appreciate that click that red subscribe button become a member do all those fancy things and I will appreciate it sure to check out our affiliate link for these products down below as well it gives us a 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