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Can a $260 R9 Fury OUTPERFORM a GTX 1070?!

2016-11-30
this card is a downright beast and the fact you could pick it up for just over 260 US dollars a few days ago makes it an even better bargain than it already was now right off the bat I know what some of you are thinking Greg it is an AMD graphics card and it's not even from there rx Polaris lineup which means it's going to be very power hungry and it's going to run pretty hot well yeah it's going to run pretty hot in it will demand a bit more power than the typical modern graphics card if you will this card is a 275 watt TDP graphics card that's not even total power draw it's actually going to be a bit more than that that's just the amount of power that's dissipated in the form of heat nonetheless for 260 or so US dollars you might be able to find it still for about 300 bucks if you find it in the right place which I still think at that point you should buy it if you're looking for a card around $300 it's a big jump between the rx 480 and something like a gtx 1070 you know that's that's an extra 140 or so US dollars and it's hard to make that kind of leap so why not pay 60 more bucks and end up with a card that performs similarly yeah I set it similarly to the gtx 1070 don't believe me I'll show you the benchmarks in this video this sapphire natural variant of the Fury is bulky and there's a reason for that the GPU the MOSFETs the RAM they all get very hot especially when it comes to stuff that's not from Polaris's lineup with AMD this will still get to easily 80 degrees Celsius under full load if you don't a cooler like this to back it up now speaking of temperatures this particular car doesn't get above 75 C that is good news that's actually not much hotter at all than my gtx 1070 EVGA ACX 3.0 card that i use for comparison in this video that card gets to about 73 74 C with its normal fan curve as does this under full load with its normal fan curve something extra that this court has that my particular variant of the gtx 1070 does not have this is indicative of the differences in architecture and how old this card is compared to the 1070 an extra 8 pin power connector this card is very power hungry it's been reported that when unlocked and overclocked an r9 fury like this can draw up to 400 watts of power directly from the wall so I don't recommend pairing this with a rig sporting anything less than about a 700 watt power supply and if you're overclocking severely something like a 6800 K I would say 800 is your safe zone there if you're doing I don't know if you're doing some kind of build those 600 watt power supply including this card you're going to be really cutting it close and you definitely won't be within your efficiency curve the fans themselves will always stay on they'll be relatively inaudible until you came for about 10 or 15 minutes you'll start to hear a little whistle blowing in your case but don't mistake that for coil whine which this card is also notorious for you could definitely hear it and it's a weird sound too it's not it's not just your typical high-pitched coil line coil whine to use me this thing can can really change pitches on you in a heartbeat it's it's kind of sketchy when you when you're just playing a game and maybe you're in between loading screens and your framerate shoots way up this card will scream don't freak out though that is normal it's just in the nature of the card how it's designed other than that I don't think there's anything else I would like to say about the card it is beautiful its well-designed it's got a nice backplate triple fan design again - 8 pin power connectors keep that in mind we're going to go ahead and put it head-to-head against the GTX 970 first up on our benchmarking list I just ran Unigine Heaven benchmark and here are the results right away you can tell the gtx 1070 is the better card all around about a 25 FPS difference on average I included the maxes in this only to show the disparity between the two but the other benchmarks you'll see here won't include maxes just because they're there they don't really say much at all something else to notice here the r9 Furies minimum frame rate dropped to 0 literally the game out of a game but the benchmark froze for a few seconds I wasn't sure if that was a driver issue or not but nonetheless it's what happened during the benchmark and that's why it's included in the graph now if you check out the frame rate trend for the heaven benchmark you notice there are a few framerate spikes here and here as well as here this one's not as noticeable but this is something that the 1070 is not experienced that the r9 fury did this could perhaps be just a driver optimisation error and definitely accounts for the zero FPS on the previous graph but let's move on to games first up as always GTA 5 + + 4 18:40 pmax settings no anti-aliasing and no advanced graphics the r9 fury closed the lead a bit here 85 frames per second on average for it and 100 FPS for the GTX 1070 our minimum showed a similar disparity 59 frames per second for the fury and 71 for the 1070 he's still nice to see that the fury kept well within the 60 FPS boundary even on the minimums when max settings were engaged and something I handed out on Twitter the seconds per frame chart you'll see the time on the y-axis in milliseconds and you want to look in this case for a frame time anywhere from between 10 to 15 milliseconds this is the time it takes for each frame to load on screen and for reference the 60 Hertz monitor requires your frame to be pushed to the monitor every sixteen point six or so milliseconds you get that by dividing one over 60 and that's what we see explicitly with a 1070 the r9 fury lags a bit behind in most cases but still relatively consistent we did see one sharp spike in the GTX 10 70s here by the way you're looking for lower frame times in this regard having a lower overall trend line is better next I wanted to test a DirectX 12 title because it is no secret by this point that AMD graphics cards favor the new API is particularly Vulcan and DirectX 12 and can even give them additional edges to boost them above their Nvidia counterparts even the ones that are in the price bracket above them for more on why GC and Architecture favors DirectX 12 check out this video right here I recommend watching that before you see the next graph and here it is check that out the r9 fury held on and even beat out the gtx 1070 when it came to the normal benchmarking runs the medium and heavy benchmarks tilted ever so slightly in favor of the gtx 1070 just barely by the way and look at that average forty two point three versus forty two point seven these two cards were literally neck-and-neck and when you consider that the r9 fury is about a hundred bucks cheaper than the gtx 1070 well what a bargain when it comes to DirectX 12 and I would say the same for Vulcan titles you could go back as far as the r9 290x and find that it could be even the gtx 980ti in some direct x12 and vulcan titles simply by nature of its GC and architecture but let's move on to our last official benchmark filled one by request I've been benchmarking in conquest modus because that seems to be the most intensive of all the different game modes in the Sinai desert at 1440p using the ultra graphics preset the r9 fury still did not lag far behind the gtx 1070 also I did not benchmark in direct x12 mode for this game only DirectX 11 so I expect that had I benchmarked in the 12 API the AMD r9 fair would have closed that gap even more i will save a separate benchmarking video strictly for DirectX 12 titles and we'll do some head to heads between the Fury the gtx 1070 maybe 2/10 70's and sli and something like maybe an RX 480 let me know in the comments below what you'd like to see in that mashup but back to the benchmark the average frame rate for the r9 Fury was about 40 6.2 FPS 48 point 7 for the gtx 1070 again only about a two and a half frame disparity there and those minimums oh those minimums so close the fury almost had the gtx 1070 we came to the minimums something that would have brought up the average overall would have been the maximum frame rate for the Fury but those were neck-and-neck as well something else to note the r9 Furies drivers were a bit hectic I had a few game crashes a few d3d driver errors things of that sort I basically uninstalled all of the drivers and then reinstalled them again and that appeared to fix the problem but I still had a few issues just with how some of the recording apps I was using and some of the benchmarking apps were conflicting with the games only happened for the fury did not happen at all for the gtx 1070 that's probably just the nature of having a new card versus an older card which tends to be left in the dust in terms of driver updates all in all though I do think the r9 Fury is a great bargain I mean you're only paying even if you pay 300 bucks for this car which I think you get it for cheaper we'll check the links in the video's description but I do think you get this card for under 300 bucks especially if you're willing to wait a bit and kind of play the market right but for under 300 bucks this card is an absolute steal it's why I bought one just to kind of prove my own point I think that you should too if you're looking for a card around 300 bucks you're not willing to spend $400 on a card and you think that $200 graphics card price range really isn't for you this card is better than an Rx 480 I've owned both cards I've tested both this card is definitely better than that even though it does demand a bit more power it's a compromise that I'm personally willing to make for the sake of gaining more frames running a bit hotter but whatever more frames if you have any questions comments or concerns be sure to leave those in the box below be sure to give this video a thumbs up not to thumbs up because that would just be an anti thumbs up it would just disappear if you thought it was cool give the 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