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Death of Net Neutrality - Science Studio After Hours #1

2017-11-26
what's up kids are we that oh oh we live close enough baby Coors random I doubt you paid $4.99 I don't hear any notification on my phone yeah so uh you guys start paying up we need that for 95 a minute $4.99 a minute I'm still seeing no feed on the live chat there we go that's all it's all that lag is this gonna switch back and forth when you talk and I talk oh yeah there's some special button for that somewhere Haeju turn that on that way people can actually see you I'm one of those people that should be heard but not seen oh I have another radio voices okay they can hear you though right oh yeah they can hear me oh yeah there he goes there's Willie then name.com hat oh yeah dude Greggy oh look at the Google hangout tag not sponsored by name com hey but you know what if mean back on wants to sponsor us free domains man they're more than welcome to do some work so what's going on we have over 400 people 436 now watching Wow yeah every start everyone's gonna pay up saw the title yeah so we're saying all right it's a $4.99 per minutes already been a minute so everyone better pay up so 499 times we're gonna make some Bank in this live stream here let's see $4.99 times let's see 456 of you watching we just made twenty two hundred and seventy five dollars and forty four cents all right start paying up guys we know we don't know where you live but uh I see that Justin I see it see what's going on there so for those who are wondering this is a reference to net neutrality but extreme but we did take a jab at it there we also have a video dedicated to net neutrality Austin you actually took seriously Wow people are teaching I mean okay I mean you've already paid like $5 you've already paid your dues brah we appreciate that but you don't have to keep paying $5 he's actually gonna pay $5 per minute we're gonna like Oh guilty about this okay we'll just away or something yeah we didn't give it away yeah yeah we'll do some giveaways here at the end yeah you need to remind me so I'll forget all right I'm gonna figure out how to make this switch automatically I is it switching automatically now oh no I'm cooking it but I can probably figure it out oh that's pretty trash yeah how is it doing it before Oh John Tyler this is what freedom looks like yeah this is capitalism guys go ahead and start sitting your five five dollars over so for those who are still wondering or who haven't maybe seen the net neutrality video or wait Jose said he's not paying that's a permanent ban permanent oh I see that yes yet blacklisting put user in timeout Oh God for five minutes bro I'm just kidding anyway as a payback I'll let you pick one person in the chat that we put on timeout after you okay all right so Jose stick around for five minutes and you can tell us where you want us to mute it could be anybody including you should we do we actually ask yes yes and that answer is yes do you get our two dollars what is that oh that's what these are something rupees I don't really know let's mean YouTube like automatically print you know not translate but like convert the currency and I'm saying yeah do like a super chat I think the small super chat you can do dollar right but then in other currencies you can do smaller amount so I think after you you use like would probably lose money on some of them yeah yeah anyway really really glad you guys are watching over 500 people live this is really awesome I appreciate that so we really have like no game plan but this is going to be a set thing so every Sunday around 9 o'clock we're gonna try to live stream will have different guests on will be with me most of the time I want you guys to get familiar through cos he is he's doing a lot behind the scenes for the channel he's been doing a lot like a whole lot stuff that I don't even understand he's been doing for quite a while thank you credit cards bongos Ditka Quinn tat Aaron thanks for that $1 appreciate that my man is that is that it's where's the SS Subaru what does that new profile picture looks like a subi hard-wearing box what's up dude yo yo yo yo what's going on Steve how you doing man Oh week actually Wow Jesus okay just relax with it it was a joke I appreciate you guys play it along oh my gosh okay here we go appreciate that x4 gaming has dsl lips D s lips I know what that is yeah you should you shouldn't have said that well oh great now I'm gonna get demonetized P o box know what no we don't but we have we have something similar yo Steve sorry I'm waiting for Steve for $99.99 a minute sir we're presents so Steve if you don't want to pay up buddy you're the permabanned waiting for you but you just super chatted back you see that little money sign down below you just click that little button and you click five five five five five sounds about right what you sorted us a penny come on whoa perfect gentleman we're expecting that penny we're gonna start charging interest we should nationalize the internet says vital status statistics whatever nationalize the internet I think we'll has an opinion on that yeah Oh everyone has everything oh yeah this guy says effing lasagna made o let's prove that commerce that comment let's see yeah I already approved that was good stuff yes of course it's a joke this is a hit on net neutrality here now the idea will knows more about this than I do is that if net neutrality were to suddenly disappear then ISPs could charge extra or you know give you what did you say it was a little will fast lanes that we were talking about provide fast lanes for they're like you know partnered websites and whatnot yeah I mean that's what's crazy is they you know they call it you know you know I forgot what the bill is called but it you know they're calling it something like you know return the access or III the internet act or whatever it's called but in reality it's sort of the opposite right and I think it's funny if you look back at the you know you look back at Congress and all that in 2010 2012 when they first started talking about this it was actually reversed right so like the Republicans wanted in the Democrats didn't and now the Democrats on it and the Republicans don't and so it's sort of uh I think it's a bi power bipartisan issue but it's since the political climate is what it is that you know everybody everybody has an opinion so because the Republicans are in power now it's it's a Republican spearheaded thing but yeah yeah and I think what's funny is that you know everybody says that you know oh the internet should be this way the Internet should be that way what's hilarious is it's a bunch of old dudes in Congress who don't own Internet companies never have never will don't know how the internet works like you know what I mean like they're not like you guys are us or whoever like they didn't grow up you know tinkering and trying to figure out what the internet is and so it's sort of like you know an offensive thing where people are like well we're gonna change we're gonna regulate what you do you know and in reality the people who created you know the internet right as we know today if they would have had to pay off ISPs to make sure that you know their users can get to it like that would you know innovation would stop right like snapchat wouldn't exist and I mean maybe they would but not maybe not to the same degree some would pay $100 a day play strip I'm just saying Brendan Whaley dude there's actually uh money we'll talk about Chad somewheres years that Jupiter sailing we appreciate the five dollar donation thank you dollars a bag of coffee would Noah Kramer for us pray why are you asking that know it may be asking you will if you work for EA do I work for you yeah who's asking Electronic Arts Noah I can't I don't know know what clean II need pics Little Miss me monitor I can't see the can't see the names this $250 4k monitors we bought it Best Buy yeah they're actually pretty good I don't know if you guys yeah they're they're great I mean but you know I'm gonna be what you see out there let's see what do we have shoe Bitcoin is high 87 31 USD per coin man I think it's higher than that Alexa what's the price of Bitcoin here we go what it's a stellar piece of hardware you got there Alexa what's the price of Bitcoin I said one minute ago one Bitcoin was nine thousand five hundred seventy two US dollars and fifty three slang 2013 hey hey Sedgwick says 100 bucks for a quick nip slip ooh I I believe you're referring to will write a couple 1440p IPS 144 Hertz monitor good at $400 I'm gonna go with no yeah because well lamo busy but with you askin 1440 1440p it 144 but I mean that also depends on more factors than just the resolution and the refresh rate yeah what's the screen size first up you can get 24 inch 144 Hertz 1440p monitors for 400 easy Black Friday deals should be a bit better than that yeah I know in that Culex I was like spot-on with that like I was one minute ago like she's on top of her game oh then as soon as you said that Alexa let's just see like bulls uh Lexington that's crazy Bitcoin in tragedy drugs guns and trafficking yeah I mean you know but but like that opinion though like I don't know it I think you can do it definitely opens it up right like it makes it easier for people to hide like you know you look at the pub leska bars the world or people that did you know move a lot of money for legal transactions now they don't have to do it you know they're not to move boats and trucks of money there they're just doing it digitally so there's definitely some sort of you know issue that has to be addressed there but I mean I don't know what do you think Greg I wouldn't even listen to you I'm sorry in the chat Wow all right Noah no we don't have a peel box but if you wanted like I don't know what you need a few box for but you're trying to like send us something it better be $4.99 a minute yeah at least but if you do I mean you can tweet at us we'll probably set up a peel box or something I know would like the new studio and everything set up will probably definitely get something this guy says maybe you should discuss the option of nationalizing the internet and making you this transparent state-run enterprise but he's got like the the hammer and sickle yeah I don't think there's such thing as a transparent state-run enterprise there's always going to be some degree of on the DL all right you know if you're not willing to trust big business why should you trust big government like yeah government is a business it is to think it's like any other entity it breeds like any other corporation you know I think you guys would be surprised how like without getting into too much politics like I think you guys would be surprised at how and Greg and I are on issues um like I don't think we're really left or right I think we're I don't know left or right realistically it's easy to get polarized it really is nationalizing kind of Jack's smaller or someone was too freeing of GPS services well not necessarily because the GPS services have a fixed cost right like as you increase if you had you know there's not a whole lot of bandwidth in GPS because you know you have a GPS receiver right your finest GPS receivers on the transmitter so you're not you're not adding load to the GPS system by you know adding a million more phones right so I think the issue with internet right is you get into bandwidth like you know how can we actually get that much data around the world and I mean you know I don't know I think that net neutrality sort of has a bigger context to it's not necessarily people think about it from the consumer standpoint about paying for Netflix or paying for whatever but my question would be if if you're gonna pay for Netflix great but what about if you if you ignore the conversation about Comcast owning NBC or NBC on Comcast and Hulu and all of that what about the backbone of the internet right like what about the level threes of the world and the Zeos and the big carriers hurricane electric all of them that you know actually move a lot of the data around the world are they going to start making deals to where you know the backbone of Comcast's might run on level 3 to go to the west coast the united states and then now all of a sudden there's added cost to you know VoIP traffic or whatever I think they've already been you know prioritizing VoIP traffic on Comcast this network you know for years but that's just because they say that you know if they don't if they don't their argument is that if they don't prioritize with traffic then you could have lag or you know that sort of thing grease the monkey asks why there's a logo a Google look at the top left that's because we're using Google Hangouts to facilitate the stream today brought to you by hashtag Google someone I sold last week the read Ellen Gregg news well you're 23 - right uh 23 what I hear is old now I'm tweet you big ones oh I got him yeah he does die first actually probably not see good I think I think competing mortality has he's got me Boop there Sedgwick asked what did we get for Black Friday watch or follow us on Twitter you'll know that we took a picture put everything up on there yeah and it was sort of last minute like it was kind of funny because Greg you know Greg tweet is like the only thing I bought from Black Friday was this like green screen and then like three hours later we're like hey you want to go to Best Buy I'm just we just walked in there and spent way too much money yeah it's been a lot of money more than we were supposed to yeah Greg how often do you twerk that's a good question that's like every other day yeah five gigabits per second for streaming let's enterprise great Internet I don't know what you're talking about but it's per second I live in a rural small town in a small community I've had the same DSL since 2009 and Verizon is only company ok so you have you have the only company and I pay more than most people do for FiOS interesting you got gigabit fiber installed this week Comcast can suck a fat one yeah Comcast actually has the two gigabits per second upload and download plan I think it's $300 but there's a $500 installation fee and there's also a 24-month contract also have to live within a quarter mile of learn one of their fiber notes so there's that can you unplug and replug your mic which one are you talking to he's probably talking to you I don't I can't hear my mic so I don't know if it's good or not I'm Leslie I mean it's like a web cam quality mic oh yeah it's on my macbook I'm too lazy yeah unless this thing's trashy it shouldn't be how much World of Warcraft gold for one minute of streaming Gucci boom says I know where you live all right Ernest my dress is on the internet it's true what did you get Wow what J corner what does that mean gigabit for 80 bucks that's enough for me not bad he's everybody's $4.99 a minute oh that's one like three minutes yes seriously you're paying all this money to your ISP vote but yeah yeah it's up to this by the way you guys see my profile picture on the bottom left of the screen that is um that's a really old picture that was like from like my sophomore year of high school yeah and mine is a you know a little better so yeah would be stole mine you like the he logged into my into the science studio account and I'm like brah yeah this is totally different when it's only Greg Ryan D well uh I don't that means Ryan sounds like good mad ready for that do you really have to pay the answer is yes if you have to ask that question yes no such thing as a free lunch yeah no such thing that's live it's live master maybe Nick oh yeah yeah I pay 60 he pays 60 bucks a month for 60 down and 5 up that is pretty hard to swallow Adam what you got Caesar and TOEIC right who's the girl you keep posting about it is Lisa that's Gregg's sister we're just gonna leave that one there I paid 120 a month NZD which is like 85 USD need paypal floyd beat mayweather yeah Ryan's 300 300 that's pretty sweet what do you what do you guys have like what's your bandwidth speeds and how much are you paying by color super chat again from Ford a story he's sick ok for those who are not aware of what's going on here he's donated five bucks legit like every other minute I got my second that he used his YouTube budget now I pay that as well 60 bucks for 60 down five a charter cable charter whose charter yeah heard of them charter turns breathing South Carolina area alright it's more of yeah I P 110 480 down and 20 not interesting where is Nick loving Greg everyone asked where McLovin is McLovin is probably working right now insert excuse year oh we're getting flooded with the specs now here we go 134 250 up and 10 down 104 300 up and 300 down and 10 up 45 ish I'm on 475 down seven up I have eight up and one down 487 a month you're getting one megabyte a second alright I have an idea so this is going to be called the penny moments what bragging will if you guys will go and there must be tests on that run a bandwidth test and then tweet us the results oh yeah this will pass that's nice Evo ite and then that will be Humphreys if you'll tweet us Wilson will just pick one of you guys in a second and give you like a gift card for Amazon like 50 bucks or something also also we want you to say how much you're spending for that plan that's like the other half of the equation so whatever like if it's cable included mention that but if you're just paying for data you know just let us know what you're paying to get what you're getting I'm really curious what you guys are having to pay especially outside of the u.s. because it gets really weird once you step outside our country 40 bucks for 400 down and 50 up stiff ninja geez that's pretty cool dsls one two three down up the one for up how much for who is that they donated I missed them I missed them trucker bomb five bucks for Greg's hair Prague hair product fund everybody else I'm sure it's an astronomical amount each month you guys you know what like I'm probably gonna spend that five bucks because just going chick chick take a look at this alright I need a haircut like big-time but we're gonna pop that name.com hat on hashtag not sponsored by name calm oh yeah it's definitely not sponsored by name background really would appreciate the free publicity though although some people like some companies have gotten pretty upset over people giving giving out like essentially free advertising here stuff like that no yeah like I don't know why they would ever get upset but I've seriously heard like people will just mess around and act like they're sponsored by companies and like these aren't suggestive channels are just like you know gameplay and whatnot and these companies to go after them and shut down their YouTube channels just because they're like claiming to be that's like false advertising but still you're either webb says REO has a guitar alright through the web also eating are you still eating thanksgiving leftovers no yeah sorry not five dollars but a contribution nonetheless two dollars well you know what we'll bill you for the other three ninety-nine i don't even see that one where's that til i won't even see it they're just scrolling through it's the last one there oh yeah no I went to my parents house for Thanksgiving so they have all the leftovers I'm basically just eating pizza rolls every day what speed did you start YouTube on wait what what speed did you start YouTube on oh geez I started at my school at the time I didn't have a wired connections I was just going all Wi-Fi and I had about two or three megabytes so I was around like 20 megabits per second here's a question how does DDoS protection work so DDoS protection can be done on the application layer which is referred to as layer 7 or it can be done on the networking layer which I believe is three or four and so the idea with DDoS protection is if you're talk about just sheer volume right so if somebody sends you a hundred Meg DDoS and your internet connection you have like 20 down at the most right your Internet's gonna stop working and so what what you'll do is you'll route that traffic through a data center that has a lot more capacity so say you you know just in the simplest terms if you had a server somewhere that had 10 gigabits right then you could take that and you have 10 gig 10 gigs and then you could absorb that hundred Meg's per second filter it out right if it's like a syn flood or something like that you can filter that out and then push the clean traffic to the to the actual IP address so your real IP is never disclosed it just goes through the filter that's the easy explanation I guess I don't that answer your question anyone hitting of the 244 download speeds and getting 25 for uploads oh yeah I haven't looked at Twitter you swishy look at Twitter uploads and he has downloads look at some of the tweets right now Dennis Rigden about 80 bucks a month USD with Verizon okay send the screenshots not the links because I want to click on the links oh yeah we wouldn't want that yeah Mike come on guy it's like Google hanging out or who it's someone asked that was my download speed of sixty two point five megabits per second is that good decent bad well how much you pay him brah it tell us how much you paying oh yeah number three the live stream no what's up I never tweeted the live stream oh yeah true I got it yeah upload in my download yeah what's up with that like I guess there are certain scenarios we're having a faster upload would be beneficial but most of the time I'm gonna be downloading content on uploading content that's why it's usually peppermint Bob prioritize ninety percent ten percent you know like ninety ten thirty bucks per month for five point five and point five ouch a stain panel off for it sixty six down here you go this guy's got nine hundred and sixty three down and two hundred fifty eight up Oh switched from Comcast with Metro net dang now imagine I'm gonna run a speed test for Netflix wearing a speed test for snapchat dude look at that one look at Justin Perry's he's got 500 megabits per second upload and 150 download really like what is going on with that he said it's included in this apartment rent free insane Wow oh that's also but it's also at a university yeah universities usually have that usually they have a static like fiber line to the hub you know and a sheared port right so they have a gig down there you go techno space says as a youtuber up is more important to me but like I mean I upload videos every day and I can say that I only use upload speeds to upload videos like that's it unless you're uploading videos all the time I would still prioritize download speeds over uploads maybe I wouldn't even split it down the middle like I paint I get 500 up or 500 down 50 up I wouldn't even like give myself 50 more ops by taking away 50 of my downs just cuz I think 50 is fine like I just sit and let the thing upload do something else on the background all right let's see here scroll through the new tweets 83 down 11 up 163 down 204 up that's interesting gold wolf King says WTF who has the slowest internet if you think you have the slowest Internet oh dude we're gonna get into some like kilobit per second I don't need anybody like you know right clicking inspect and and it says I know the struggle with Cox and Arizona is ridiculous I had Cox in Louisiana geez that is like a frenetic dog never had cops it's so bad 65 down at ten recently there's a fiber company but they only work in select areas yeah that's actually what's crazy about fiber a lot of the fiber you know the United States has run underground if you go to a lot of the developing countries of the world now if you do a lot of stuff of Honduras and all of their fiber you know I got fibroids one of our house down there and what was crazy is that all of the fiber optics is run on telephone poles just like phone lines and so on the pan-american highway if someone smashes into a telephone pole then you know you might knock out Internet in part of Brazil right it's pretty crazy Wow eight Meg's down point seven up my grandma does with 56k dial-up that's 10 megabit stop 1 Meg down oh man 5 and point 5 tripping on Twitter says I'm paying $55 for AT&T and he has three Meg's down and 1.38 up ouch they're paying $55 for that dude that's insane 500 kilobytes down Omar where are you in the world one point five down point five off from DSL so you guys are still using there's a lot of people here using DSL but are using DSL because it's cheaper or using it because that's what's available in like your rural area 50 Meg's up and down with home phone and cable for a hundred and twenty dollars on frontier this episode of science to you after hours brought to you by electricity that's fine we have fiber infrastructure in eighty percent of the country is a big says yeah I was gonna say that sounds like a like a South American country huh we're like South America I know he didn't say where he lived but it just sounds like a South American country America with only one is P is the Dillion government controlled ISP there's the 56k dialogue aback Hall fiber in the United States is owned by about five companies and then this lease between each other that's weird Boston bar bottom tier internet $60 a month or 200 down 40 down 80 down let's go sis I'm using DSL because it's literally the only option in my area you know how about um my condolences I'm gonna pick somebody so cool it's just uh what about this guy this is sort of like a scent of the sympathy gift card for tripping I guess let's see who's paying fifty five dollars for a tes three Meg's down in 1.38 up all right let's give him the gift cards that cool yeah that's fine all right cool so you got 50 bucks that sound good 50 bucks 50 bucks Wow well that'll fifty bucks will give you at least one more month of your three legs down $8.00 there you go yeah so yeah I will retweet this find it you will 100 down 40 up 90 AUD a month I mean it's not terrible but that's well I mean they have that here in the States Jesus only DSL where I live a hundred and twenty bucks a month for 16 down and two up really hmm YouTube my building offers 10 Meg's down 0.5 up for three devices capping at one terabyte a month 50 bucks dang well that's interesting thanks for sharing folks we're very curious I guess that another thing would be so well I don't know will what would you say like if you had to group all the first world or developing countries at least into one big pile and pull out the country that had the worst Internet infrastructure which country think that would be well you mean out of all of the developing worlds which one has the worst internet yeah well I don't have any internet right um there's you know if you look at places like Ethiopia I mean that's not what I'm talking about that well I'm talking about like oh no I guess ethiop is developing but like I mean like I I don't know just like a country that is it has a really high GDP or something that has like a terrible internet service Oh like slowest country Alexa Alexa country has the slowest internet in the world sorry you don't know that maiya North Korea there was a North Korea yeah I will but North Korea also has you know they don't really have full on Internet access right there's only a few people who actually have access to the real Internet hello shut up Navi interesting name come on come on still kills people with fiber explain again will how Google Fiber works like how does the payment structure work with Google Fiber cuz there's not like a flat fee right under 70 bucks a month it's just 70 bucks a month flat I think so yeah I thought you said it was based on the usage no no so you can there's two ways to build fiber right residential fiber yeah it's $70 a month residential fiber is billed at a flat rate a commercial fiber or wholesale fiber is build on what's called a 95th percentile so it's average usage over time and then you'll you'll pay for a port speed so if I have a gigabit port speed and then I'm you know averaging 23 Meg's per second which doesn't you know it might mean that I use eight hundred Meg's to download a YouTube video or whatever and then but my average is 23 right knock the top 5% off you have your 95th percentile and then your bill at a per Meg per second price so you know that's how they come up with a pricing there but the residential stuff is usually stacked so you're not buying dedicated bandwidth you know Greg might buy a one gig connection I might buy one gig connection but you know we're sharing some of that on the averaging on the billing side so that's how they profit what about Elon and lo little orbit satellite internet it's definitely possible Google fiber's not dead North Korea does not have access to the Internet everyone in Europe has been in the u.s. yeah but a lot of that has to do with geographical like you know like the United States is so spread out metropolitan marks like all of the areas are so spread out that the infrastructure cost are are a lot like how many super rural places in Europe that are like not within 50 or 60 kilometers of a big city are there in Western Europe you know right and then you know in the United States a lot of the land is flat so the problem with that is you can't use air fiber so like products from ubiquity things like that it's actually you know make air runs in the mountains and that sort of thing check that out James says in Denmark he has two hundred two hundred at 18 bucks a month can upgrade to five hundred five hundred 436 I think he said Wow Wow that's incredible that's crazy some latency on satellite is awful yeah is that not the delay like for people like with cable like that's the delay when you switch channels basically like that like it's more about the digital encoding right it's just because the Box has to decrypt it right because a lot of people used to steal cable boxes they're trash - yeah I mean five years ago you could climb up a telephone pole and screw in a coax and they people still do yeah they sawed it root cable and but now what they've done is they've switched it all with digital signals so it's all encrypted and yet have you have to authenticate with a network and then it allows you to watch them but it has to decrypt them off the line yeah we want upon a crown not - am I being charged logged out it's gone link yes you're being charged you're being charged for hours and 99 a minute to watch us that's just how life works yep 30 bucks us six down one up mountainous region same studio whitey I pay 500 INR which is the equivalent of $7.00 us for one gig in in myopia that's pretty crazy it's awesome Wow yeah I know India has really really strong net neutrality rules it's pretty impressive yeah do you take food stamps [Laughter] unfortunately this live string is being recorded so oh yeah all being recorded while I have a 13 year old router yeah you should get that looked at by a doctor uh hundred fifty down fifteen up 462 uh 50 $60 orz whatever that is yeah dude I had no idea when I was with my parents still like they have a one terabyte cap and I had no clue that was with Xfinity so we actually passed it by like 10 gigs and they told us they were gonna charge us like an extra 20 bucks per 10 gigs that we went over and I didn't even know that was a thing like I seriously never knew because I had never purchased my own cable until just recently so I never knew that there were data caps like that I mean I knew they were there were for mobile phones you know for about five years ago Comcast introduced data caps and the initial rate of Kapil 250 gigs a month and then they had a lot of pushback so they decided just to go ahead and throw it out the window but now with all the net neutrality conversation people are talking about beta caps coming back and that sort of thing would you know if Wireless like t-mobile Verizon spurn 18z you guys have seen all of the all of the hike where you know horizon everybody used to have unlimited data for $30 a month right because the network was you know 3G speeds right so they did they could easily handle the traffic but now with all the live streaming you know Instagram and snapchat and all that sort of stuff the networks are congested and so they switched to a per gig model so they would sell plans and this is in the last five years and then they've you know in the last 12 months they've switched back to unlimited plans but now they limit the top 5% of their users back down to 3G speeds after you know 24 gigs or 26 gigs or one other one that is God this guy said KC Sam says I pay eighty-two dollars a month for 0.25 down in point 1 3 up and have to bundle with an effing phone service latency so bad I am thinking of switching to satellite 30 Meg five Meg's up at $60 including TV and Panama as this guy like keep he keeps like posting the same crap over and over uh every message cost a dollar ninety-nine yeah Akshay most is named cat a car I tried my best man all right let me get this guy's gift card to them the ones I guess net neutrality does not stop for gig plans and data caps what's not and that's not we're arguing we have data caps now and net neutrality laws are in place but if those rules regulations were to Sonny disappear the idea is they can do whatever they want with any tiered system they could say X amount of dollars for this access X amount more dollars for this access oh if you want another 50 gigabytes a month for whatever tier you purchase then you got to pay an extra fee so having the tier system when net neutrality doesn't exist allows them to implement more of those caps per tier is the idea behind that oh I said $1.99 now yeah you better pay that up you be a big boy out ain't paying for Josh Saunders is enjoying this but noticed you included Morales oh and the latest no so Furillo T made the thumbnail or that little picture that I posted on the tweet so I tagged a minute because I wanted to give him credit but I didn't have any more words like I didn't have any more characters in the tweet so I kind of had to leave it there but Tony will be on to like we'll have Tony on the chat probably next week I think I don't this time we're just kind of messing around I didn't think you'd yeah good enough for you bro it cost you another $50 yeah unfortunately it may block websites they could if they lost back we take dogecoin for payment sure sure man yeah three bucks for gigabit is awesome I don't know why YouTube blocks some of these comments like I wish it would just like leave this he used the word okay well alright I'm still gonna allow it cuz screw it oh wait did you ready click allow' oh yeah we have a we have a censorship free burn censorship free express yourselves any celebrity guests yeah we're thinking of having a we thinking I have them well well if anybody wants to jump on the live stream we will let you I I'm not gonna I'm basically just gonna make it this way since we're since we're talking about net neutrality and supporting it if you want to get on the live stream your ass in this money so let's shots the work you got you guys want the laws changed this is how it's done what's the minimum what's the minimum donation they can for your dollars uh-huh no $100 can they send like a penny I'm just curious I've never had to do this before but the highest bidder gets it because that's how I met my child works I expect a bill sent later Gregg also maybe this is a way to test the monetization well this this video won't get to monetize this isn't like we don't need these up for very long how much extra do I have to pay for censorship censorship free propell that's a really good comment I'll approve that one send super chat okay so you can send let's see $0 yeah so let's see if I send fifty cents how it works guys you click it in your gun whoa dude you can send 500 bucks holy crap yeah you can like look see I'm gonna enter my credit card and I'm gonna chain Greg two dollars are you seriously what is that but it came it came from Greg's account cuz I'm logged into his peon sorry good game bro wow I just we just chatted ourselves Jesus hey not exempt from paying alright Santa hats are copyrighted and a hats are copyrighted it looks like we're just gonna keep this one to monetize we're relying on your donations now a $1 for every megabits per second download they have yes Josh we just gave ourselves two dollars yeah don't don't you want to give a cut to YouTube but then get it back in your bank account 45 to 60 days yeah yeah it's it take that long seriously yeah it takes a long time G well I know YouTube takes like a month to pay out so I came here for dude that's like that's worth a lot of money so yeah sure by all means it's 500 bitcoins you can actually send 550 bitcoins okay can I pay can I pay for a super cat with a virtual high five no Greg you need up these rates to $7.99 per minute yeah we're getting too much traffic you is too much too much demand we'll check your accounts with a one big old going your way whatever that means Stumbo me ISP can block and throttle websites now even with net neutrality that's what Comcast did to Netflix last year it was truly good we were just talking about this yeah they did but they stopped it afternoon let's bait them all they say they stopped it baits reveal of $15 wait what he's gonna reveal face man talk about himself Oh 28 69 cents you can donate $69 though hey I had to watch an ad when I got in so I'm pretty sure it's monetized yeah but who's to say we don't like not get that money but I'm pretty sure when when our videos get demonetised on YouTube I know people still get ads on there I'm pretty sure they just don't give us the money yeah is it the livestreams monetized ready to know yeah but even you guys have to realize the amount of money that comes from ads not oh it's trash yeah most go using ad blocker anyway so we're getting screwed over yeah first thing about being a tech tool is that you read the audience uses adblock yep that's about 50% of you guys use that lot yeah you guys are just smart yeah we use it ad block and bunch of smart cookies 347 am is there a discount on off-peak hours oh but what I would tell you is your power company gives you a discount on off-peak hours see if you think the savings and apply them to your science video account boom boom if you keep copying kaak kaak star if you keep copy and pasting the same dumb thing over and over YouTube I pay 500 INR which is equivalent to 7 USD for 10 thousand megabytes per second which is oh let's I don't understand you to use a capital B there's a difference tween a capital M B and a capital M lowercase B bra I mean I kind of get what he's saying is Tim Giggy for 7 bucks is it good I feel like that's not true thinking a bits per second yeah yeah yeah even will not buy international bandwidth in Honduras I I mean even dark fiber is not that you yeah yeah it's okay you're forgiven pot this is if I you're forgiven maybe that's how you get to give them in this world do you still know if you get address when someone uses YouTube bread yes that's for sure no matter what so when you basically with YouTube read what you're doing is you're paying like a subscription fee see you don't see ads and you get extra benefits included with that but we get a proportion that actually when it breaks down our monthly earnings it shows us how much of our earning is from YouTube bread it's like I think for us it's only like five or six percent it's not very big yeah let's see YouTube you know you paid $10 for YouTube right or whatever and then if you're watching a ton of YouTube videos right then you're actually making YouTube lose money but there's you know hundreds of thousands of people that are you know paying for YouTube bread but maybe watch one video every day you know so it all balances out and they pay a CPM it's pretty comparable looking for dinosaurs what do you think of YouTube bread first adblock well YouTube red I mean you're paying for one adblock you're not paying for Jack except for your internet connection so YouTube bread helps us like we do gets we do get kickbacks from that when you watch a video we get like like micro pennies on the dollar but it's still something when you use adblock we don't get anything because no ads show up and YouTube knows that so when you put in you know when you when you have ad block running and you load up a YouTube page and you jump straight into the video Google says well the hell I'm they didn't see an ads we're not gonna pay for that ad right it wasn't implemented you think does the end do you know what Tandy 1000 is what does that well I don't know do you think will win defending net neutrality um I'll look it up Tandy 100 I really don't know how it's gonna go down because it's not it's not like a vote of Congress I don't believe right I think it's an FCC vote and so it really doesn't matter what we think it really matters what you know everybody in the FCC is like where you know where they are on the Tandy 1000 this is coming from who donated the $2 I was Jesse n so Tandy 1000 is the first in a line of more or less IBM PC compatible computer home systems produced by the Tandy corporation for sale in its Radio Shack chain of stores interesting Radio Shack's out of business now so wonder what the fate of Tandy was is this livestream sponsored by Taco Bell I don't know fat joke earth that's like I wasn't even thinking like that but now do you say it it could have been a bad that's real don't make fun of my weight she yeah transcripts back alright okay y'all are so mean Congress can override the FCC with lawmaking Authority after the fact if they choose five-second ad is nothing just watch to support the creators yeah I mean I'm not gonna sit here and tell you guys not to use adblock I mean who cares but you know at the end of the day it's sort of like a principle right look if you if you support the creators you watch then you know watch the ads right if not if you don't like watching ads by YouTube red I mean what's the you know ten bucks a month yeah I mean a lot of people watch YouTube more than they watch Netflix so like you're paying like but I don't Netflix subscription went up by like a bucks and now I'm paying like fourteen dollars instead of thirteen a month so what YouTube Reds like what ten bucks a month there's ten that oh yeah can we get a sponsor read what's the sponsor read sure what do you want me to say it's sponsored by I don't have any crunchy tacos sorry it's got to be soft tacos unless it's a fiery Doritos locos taco cuz that's what's up this isn't sellouts to go right now I don't really uh tony says I've read the Bible sixty nine times and in the book of Greg four twenty Jesus says he who had used AdBlocker shall never have their weiner touch my yeah I feel like you regretted and say reading that about your I didn't read it thanks Tony thanks man appreciate and everyone's gonna be like chipping that might know just don't have audio thank God donation time what's up looking for dinosaur is gonna go broke over here you think YouTube TV is worth it I actually think it's kind of overpriced yeah I get it too I wait you said it was like 1099 no YouTube TV not you - Bret saw our YouTube TV oh oh yeah 35 bucks on them and it's only available in select markets yeah Doritos Locos Tacos are like the best thing ever that's the one hard talk about the eat is skipping the ad after five seconds count or do i watch the whole we still get paid for that yeah I don't I don't yeah like I mean I don't think it really uh I don't think it really matters so I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I sit there and watching my lad you know I'm sitting there waiting for that right but we stayed but it's that like you said it's the principle right so like yeah you don't view the whole ad we still get it we still get a small kickback from it and III don't know like exactly what the proportion is like if they pay out the whole like the whole thing or if they pay only a part like a portion of it like if that's the case who cares you know it click skip anyway if you can they're giving you the option I'll blame you at that point yeah I mean it to me I just bought you know you to bread right like I just don't want the ad to heat ads but your sister said I love live streams hearing Greg Reed that was perfect and now I know why I don't get laid Oh red when you can go down with a tweak box and download YouTube plus plus that doesn't show at YouTube I feel like a blocker is easier YouTube red gives you google play music which is basically a four-person version of spotify bond without $9.99 as a steal someone said Jeff is proud yes that is definitely not true but you could try you're getting trolled I let my bet and my friend borrow my PC and he returns at full malware paying one pay my paying my one cent with interest sir appreciate that mr. Shelby oh yeah that was the yeah that was the person who donated like $2.99 he told me yes we want the interest would be and I told him to be one hundred and eighty percent APR so he's paying right you guys are just tuning in this is $4.99 a minute to watch us bless you with our presents oh yeah this is uh how many trolley works so start paying up here someone says a jiff as in his gift it's not gif not gif don't be weird Bobby reason Bobby all of your comments get blocked and I don't know one whoa Roland Dawson says one time I watched an ad that Greg had that was an hour long and skipped it at the last second it's the pettiest thing I've ever done yeah I don't think that's worth it dude because uh I mean we can't like talking about numbers right but like I can give you a general idea of you know the way YouTube works and it's like there's its cost per thousand so it's you know your one ads not a whole point one percent bro yeah it's okay we don't feel bad Greg you're dumb nail scared the crap out of me I thought it was real you can thank will for that that's all we'll engineering over here yeah I just I made that just just a troll people YouTube red has four month free trial right now for Black Friday so does Apple music Apple music has a three month free trial it's trash I don't recommend it oh yeah and I have an iPhone and in Auto it Auto renews which is the worst part CSM Utley get people that's like the free trial with Netflix like you have to enter a card now I know that was one of the things I wanted to talk about with the app store I remember when I had like my first ipod touch like and I was like fifteen or fourteen it took me a while to get one but I had I got my first iPod touch and you download the app store you create your little Apple account and then you can just download apps if you wanted to buy apps and you had to add a credit card after the fact now in order to even create an Apple account you have to sync up a credit card like no matter what I didn't know that it's like they're basically getting you trigger-happy and if you accidentally miss click something you know that that OneTouch buying options like they do on Amazon oh yeah dude only an app purchases dude it's a money-making machine and they're playing off of people's ignorance which i think is pretty messed up yeah and I mean on you know on the iPhone and and all of the in-app purchases now you can buy things on websites right like Shopify has integrations with it and everything else where they'll actually charge your iTunes account for the transaction all you need is that thumbprint or the face ID or whatever right okay I'm blogging I do too keeps like copying and pasting all this crap Dennis Rigden my dude $20 appreciate that I offer you this twenty as a bulk price for that five dollar minute bit take it or off also Apple music is so bad I'll have to try it just so I can like be on the same boat as you guys because I've never clicked it just cuz I don't do that kind of music I just download music like I have like my own library of stuff I've purchased from way back when and that's just keep adding to it but like I've never wanted to use google play music or out the music or anything like that so what you say Greg do you want jump bring people into their hangout with us yeah let's bring Denison see if Dennis wants to come in yo Dennis how are we gonna chat this to him I don't know let me figure it out Will's gonna try to figure it out hey Dennis we're gonna try to bring you into the chat man we've done this before for those who are new to the live stream thing or at least with the Google Hangouts interface we can actually bring other people into the live stream so you can see yourself on the channel basically it's kind of cool it's different than YouTube more personal yeah I don't know if that's gonna work like we want it to what we could do we could just open it up to the masses for maybe I don't know 15 minutes and then call today yeah I don't know yeah we're got to get better about um possible Robin Estrada's comment I can afford you hangout prices how much stage fright Dennis alright alright we're gonna see let's just let's just link it out there and let's see Dennis you got to be quick my man oh dude this show you can Dennis that he can't yeah Dennis Lee can't uh we can I mean we could just try that both stage fright oh I didn't realize reading its comment okay yeah just like post it out there we'll just get people coming in oh god yeah bring it flooded that's okay come on alright guys here's the rules we're gonna post this chat little turbo hangout thing you can join ask your questions stay on here for like you know talk for a solid 15 seconds and then GTFO 15 seconds 15 like maybe not exactly you know but you know try to keep it short because there's 500 people or 400 now or losing people well you're basically like power questions so you gotta get your questions spit out I'm gonna answer as quick as I can as concisely as I can and then we're gonna move on the next person just so we're fair to everybody when you jump in it how about you guys knew your mics cuz it sucks yeah mute your mics brah all right we'll all right let me get the link scary mm-hm press f to pay respects everyone's tripping oh yeah click it do it do oh he's spamming hard yeah you're gonna see it alright everyone about to join it's gonna suck alright oh geez I've got one person two people oh yeah nobody alright alright mute you mute you and you you remember ya meet yourselves when you come in everyone will be talking all at the same time it gets really really bad hey for some reason when it shows you it doesn't show everyone in the oh there you go no it does are you tinkering with it alright so see for like pressing F all over the boy alright guys also mute your mics mics for me too but mute your livestream in the background if you have it playing in the background just focus on Google Hangouts um and then let's just try to go for it so uh naughty cord I'm gonna got petting its pillow down there let's go with naughty cord what's up dude hey how's it going yeah what's up man not much that much you want to question anything like that I don't know I'm not from the USA so I'm not too happy about the entire ality but it's something that I think it's gonna affect the Canada as well like if it gets put in place it's gonna affect us in somewhere or the other do you think it's like gonna change something for us or no what do you think well yeah I mean it could right because I mean if you're accessing a service that's based in the United States right right now it's all about low latency so if there if it's you know better to have a server in Quebec then they're gonna have a server backup it's better to have one in Chicago they're gonna put it in Chicago well when you start putting these national laws in place then you know now now it becomes the question of or the lack of laws right then it becomes the question of you know what is something restricted in the United States right did we become to the point where companies restrict things over certain networks so instead of you know traffic going through Chicago because it's lower latency you know they go somewhere else because that state doesn't have you know laws that block the content right so but it's a longer it takes longer to get there the latency is higher and the slows are the speeds are slower but yeah I think it I think especially since it's something in the United States where a lot of these tech companies are based and that sort of thing I think people forget that a lot of the infrastructure is also based here I mean there's definitely a significant amount in Canada too but yeah I think it will yeah yeah I was thinking of Facebook Facebook doesn't have any server in in Canada really there's like there's like two data centers in Sweden and there's I think there's one in Chicago and that's it interesting not sure I'm not sure though yeah thanks for your question dude I'm we're gonna try to get those many people as we can oh sure and yeah have a good day let's see if we can get who was next rock rock old that oh what's up how you doing what's up dude what's going on now I'm just chillin that's livestream I was like okay why am i paying $4.99 to watch the stream I was mad as but I'm like oh wait a minute did you pay your $4.99 oh maybe a pay or $4.99 about the perma ban you where'd you go did you meet yourself if needed all right you're still there oh you got a question for us uh yea well jhonny like Canada make it hard to walk to animate or knit so that's why I'm upset it's like one of the good anime well Jesus and out of there all right so let's try this again guys remember all right please mute your mics and mute the audio in the background if you're on the Google hangout you don't need to listen to the YouTube stream all right I had a pretty valid question but couldn't answer it uh it was a valid question though all right Seth man man Seth man Gary here dude yeah I'm here um I'm another guy from Canada and okay other guy kind of answered my question um do you think this is also going to affect like Canadian companies who some of the murder like unite in the United States and some of the American companies that are in Canada you think it's gonna affect them like crazy because like they're trying to put their businesses up and the cost of Internet it's gonna go up in some places and it's gonna affect like how can I runs our stuff because Canadian Internet is already super expensive and stupid some areas like a hundred megabits per second upload I mean download speed is sometimes over a hundred bucks and just Ontario alone it's more expensive to go to or you think it's gonna affect a lot of stuff like that yeah I mean I think well I think it'll be twofold right so I think that in the first five years I don't think we'll notice at all I think the people who are non Texas gonna do go ahead and meet your keep live stream other than me but I think that it's gonna affect it from the side like in the next five years I don't think anybody's gonna notice I think what comes up is you're actually not gonna see price as a bandwidth go up I think what you'll see is is not the opposite but I think you'll start seeing the freemium model you know become relevant in in the internet right so we're people if you know if AT&T can you know acquire a customer by giving them a $5 a month social media package right so that you know their kid can watch YouTube videos in the car while they're driving around and that's all they want them to have access to it then I think that's what will happen but I think the issue becomes later on you know well then now that kids not able to access anything other than that and it you know if you're gonna do these like segmented packages and I think that's where it gets dangerous and and but I mean it affects everybody right because if if the upstream providers like level 3 say all of them you know if they change it to say ok well we're we're gonna discount you know HD video because that's you know we like we like moving that data more than we like moving encrypted data then I think it's fine I think you'll get into an issue where a lot of cable companies a lot of Internet companies are owned by larger media companies if you guys remember about 10 years ago the whole DMCA Act the Digital Millennium Copyright Act we the thing where people always get YouTube videos taking down for and all that sort of stuff the you know people send down a you know send a takedown notice right for that today but LimeWire all of those things the ISPs wanted to block the traffic the torrenting traffic which torrenting in itself is not illegal but what people use it for can be right and so you know using something like tor BitTorrent any sort of encrypted transmissions could be blocked by your ISP just because they don't want you know they want to cut down on all the copyright right right so cool Greg who's next no you pick man I'm not in control that's the I love the internet let's go to Bob what's a Bob hey so seeing that there's so many Canadian people do you think you're gonna do more Canadian content Hey what do you mean Canadian content like what I don't know more Canadian feels I don't know a mass like about 50% of our your bases United from the United States and about I think 12 or 13% of Canadian actually might be less than that I think it's like close to 10% it just wouldn't make much sense fretts just as like people like Steve will tell you like Steve and and Brian the guys that they live over there in Australia they always say their price is first and they'll convert it to USD because they know that a large portion their audience is also from the United States but it wouldn't do us much good at all to do Canadian based deals and stuff like that if most of our viewers aren't from Canada I think it's just a matter of statistics is all that is think of the three out of three people that called in today we're all Canadian yeah but our Google Analytics says otherwise about yeah Bob it's not gonna make any difference I'm from Canada and our dollar is crap so yeah we're okay that's just dumb where's word and we're never gonna be talked about in anything that doesn't make any sense I apologize I don't mean to be rude from Canada but yeah it won't happen I would have to say like even if even if you guys had I guess it would be easier if our dollars were this about the same strength but even if they were let's say they were on a one-to-one I still would do most of my content would be centered around the United States market just because that's where I live that's where I'm most familiar with I know what deals are good here in this country and it's harder for me to relate to countries outside of here because they have different pricing structures they have different tax brackets they have all kinds of stuff that goes into effect that I don't know about so I don't want to act like I do and say oh this is a great deal in Canada even though I don't live here so it's it's more or less just a matter of like where I'm comfortable dealing and I'm not comfortable doing it in another country that definitely makes sense Thanks yeah hey man thanks for question thanks Bob well I was gonna ask if you think net neutrality is gonna come to Canada I don't think it will but just out of curiosity right well it's hard to hear yeah um no I don't I don't think that the regulations right I mean you know they're talking about rolling back something that they put in place that prevents you know people from doing it I think that the question of it really hasn't come up anywhere else in the world necessarily but I think people I think companies reactions in the United States like ISPs instead of them saying you know oh well look like the cellphone companies right like we have all of this you know people are using all this bandwidth to get on Netflix and YouTube and Spotify and all that sort of stuff but instead of increasing our network capacity like tenfold right like let's go ahead and just prioritize traffic you know let's let's slow down other people and I think the one of the biggest misconceptions is that they talk about okay well let's get rid of net neutrality so that we can you know create these fast lanes well I can tell you if Netflix pays you know Comcast 20 million dollars they're not gonna lay new fibre for Netflix right they're just gonna prioritize the traffic that's already on the existing infrastructure and and that's when you know not it's not a win-win right like it's you know somebody I agree with you there because I think what was happening I'm I think was like three to five years ago in Canada um we had cellphone companies from the states trying to get up here cuz our cell phone services argh okay but I pay like a hundred and fifty bucks a month for my cell phone and I only get like five gigs of data like it's it's it is it is stupid and because Bell Rogers tell us they own Canada's cell phone and they said well we put the infrastructure in no you're not coming unless you pay us a hundred million dollars to come up here some outrageous number and they kind of held everybody off which is crap because you guys have awesome and awesome cell phone prices out there compared to us but then our internet here I was doing a little research on it our internet here is kind of government regulated they can't they can't limit anybody but they can almost charge us whatever they want like if you live on a farm out here oh god you're you're gonna be paying or $500 a month for like a hundred gigs like it's dump and and 35 up and nothing else like it's crap yeah I would like to see like a map kind of like just of the United States for one so that I'm more familiar with these prices again but but I'd like to see how the pricing structure differs from between like rural places and urban places or suburban places like what are the what are the different prices that people are paying location based right so it's not only about how many ISPs you have in your area but also about how far you are from you know wherever they're splitting this stuff off I wonder if yeah broadband map go but is it going to show us prices like it has like a price density map like that's I would be really interested to see something like that yeah probably not not sure why it would requires so much data you'd have to have a sample from literally a signal probably has it they do a lot of analytics with cell phone companies but I'm not sure if they do anything with you know wired or Wireless well it's these cell phones a little different I mean you pay it and you either get the service or you don't like it's just like a flat you know rather giddy because it's all Wireless but with the wired stuff like you're actually paying for that infrastructure and some to some extent there sometimes they have to come out and lay the cable for you yeah I just I wonder what the what the prices are maybe like price per megabit or something like that awesome yeah that's usually how it works what about angry tech what's up angry tech yeah we can't hear you so can't hear you okay here you give me a thumbs up anyway man give me a just me that there we go that's what start come back okay we'll just assume you asked something about net neutrality because that's what everyone else is been asking a bit all right all right all right man we got fall Bros it's not a thing up dude yo oh yo hear me that's an affirmative okay so I have a cue 6,600 machine with six gigabytes for ham and a 1050 so I'm trapped I want to upgrade it but I still want to keep the 1050 what would be an upgrade path for the computer with a 1050 I just go like with a risin three or something and fifty is that what you said okay texts 1050 you want to use everything well it's just like a placeholder so that I don't have to spend a ton of money on the graphics card so like down the line I'll get a better graphics card so because by the time that I get all the other stuff that I need it's gonna be like two generations of graphics cards yeah I would say if you're planning on keeping the 1050 then and for a while they still you upgrade if you want a platform like a CPU motherboard Ram combo that'll last you four five six years and I would say go with something like horizon 5 go for like a 1400 or maybe a 1600 if you can work it out go for 8 gigs of ram and then upgrade to 16 later if you want use the 10 v you're gonna get decent frame rates especially in 1080p the 1050 is a little under kill I will say but if you upgrade that to a 1070 later on let's say let's say you get a use 1070 for like 200 300 bucks like that's a good price for one right now then I you'll be sitting really good because that's a really good value combo right there like horizon 510 70ish so that's what I would shoot for just kind of hang out with that 1050 for a while upgrade that q 6600 platform still a great I mean it's a quad-core CPU right but it's based on what like 2000 and I'm gonna miss I'm gonna miss State this year I think it's like 2006 I want to say the Q 6600 something like that it's pretty old like it's over a decade old so yeah upgrade that platform first I can tell that it's like seriously black bottlenecking my yep it will yeah that's exactly what's that's cool even a 1050 it'll bottom like a 1050 it's hard to believe but it actually will do that by man that's the luck appreciate you appreciate you get on the livestream alright we got Jack Quinn - Ron oh God it's it's D Quinn - Taryn and I already talked and asked my question I'm just listening in guys oh yeah no cool sweet Greg by the way the 10 70s in Canada even used are like 370 plus well I couch my eyes out that's pretty insane yeah I paid I haven't I have a GeForce GTX Strix and 60 OC I got it on Amazon and I like I scrounged around to find the best deal and I still paid 436 for a10 64th just in the middle of the mining crazy so how long ago was this this was two months ago okay so it's a downturn it but still you paid a lot more that was that was the best price still right now there they've gone down about 20 bucks Vince yeah that's insane that's what we pay for a 1070 here I know and I actually want to run a 1070 in my my system yeah and still I haven't it's like 500 bucks plus for a 1070 here yes plenty territory for us yeah it's retarded man retard instead below even they give me up it's I I honestly just want to get my car and drive to the states buy it and bring it back ideally I'd the Canada or not Canada people live in like Vancouver and Toronto I could imagine it'd be pretty feasible although it'd be difficult trying to get that through customs but ya know cuz I just put it in a computer like a case on my way down like in the in the car with me on my way down I'm going to a gaming event come back up with the exact same asus strix card in it watch out man big brother's watching what do ya'll call big and I'd like a big brother saying in Canada no man I can still use like I can still use pirate bay here they just it a whole bunch of add like a whole bunch of windows will pop up and say hey you're not supposed to like they're slapping your wrist and you just X out and you can still use them here there's no real laws against any of that here uh there's a couple like Internet companies that'll like they'll throttle you for a month if you're caught doing too much torrent downloading but other than that no like I it it's it's it's dumb here I hate it here I'm I want to move to the states so bad man you have no idea Canada who live here so maybe you know what honestly I would take Trump over frickin Trudeau whatever all day long livestream room move on we get some other people we're gonna actually be hanging up here soon I don't have much longer I got some schoolwork to get to I know that's like serious downer but all right man V no more man whatever what's up you know got me mad if it's you can come back Matt instead anyway hello from Israel it's right now 6 a.m. I think what a lot to talk about is more so basically about cell phone prices and internet prices like here I pay for unlimited and kept data for like 15 bucks so yeah that's a faint here and we have a net neutrality laws and everything so basically the difference is that they cannot book any website and they cannot block any service even though like yeah we have the free infrastructure companies and you will pay for the is be a different payment and we have like 20 I speak companies and still they don't allow like we don't have a monopoly my daughter'll blocking without allowed hearing and don't about anything like that so yeah that's where you should be going and although this start suing the companies that we started to do anything like that like blocking or tearing prices yeah that's stupid what's going on where what part of Israel are you from very slightly part I'm just the closer to the center but yeah it's more country yeah yeah for sure the what is it Tel Aviv you guys have got a pretty crazy technology scene over there right now there's a lot of startups coming out of there a lot of Technology it's getting built over there I guess in Tel Aviv now basically a really big company in the world has a R&D center in Israel but it's small North in Tel Aviv like Tel Aviv is just a basic it's like the New York of Israel yeah but were spread out all over I mean like all the internships are being developed in Israel apparently all the processors so yeah but the thing is about the net majority that we had lows from thousand in eleven I think not me too chatty but they still permit like we still say something about it's fair use like you cannot overuse it's and then they are allowed to slow you down or whatever but they cannot really because you cannot prove that you use the internet too much or whatever right so yeah good luck with effort it's really important yeah yeah yeah no really know what she brew but Bogert oh nice one it's about all I got insulting sure but no it's not it's actually really good yeah I've been there a couple times that's right you take it Israel forget about that yeah I've been there comes hiked Timna I was fun yeah that's a self yeah yeah it's really hot to them yeah jib to our yeah you want to Regis I know Jordan and Israel and now I thought you're in Cairo or the border border crossing to Egypt is a lot harder to get through them to Jordan because the physical Jordan is a lot better than with Egypt yeah but still you can just go through some kind of bullet pass yeah always too much of your time even me on Twitter or something I'll take you to dinner next time I'm over there okay oh that's really one or two more we'll all right we got ooh Daniel Paige what's up dude Daniel hey yo what's questions be quick we're trying to get through everybody yeah no now I kind of feel a little bit useless after that good conversation you guys just had I was just asking them well what kind of overclocked settings have you been able to get on an RX 480 with just a stock cooler and no water block or anything like that it's that well I got my eye I usually I'll confess I usually don't over Clark cards anymore I just don't even bother most of them will kind of throttle themselves so if you take like I know I'm more familiar with this with Nvidia cards I know that they will throttle heavily when they get pretty hot they'll drop to 300 megahertz and when they're cooled appropriately they'll stay maxed out clock speed I mean when you have to touch them and they'll actually go overclocked to some extent or they have that boost clock is what they gets basically Auto overclocking on a and B huh skillet things what's up yeah what is a what's a fairly acceptable temperature for like a reference cooler Arak 480 no no it's not a reference it's an MSI it's got two fans okay you don't want any card getting above like 85 C like that's I would say if you're if you're in like the mid to low 80s you're fine getting into 90 degrees is unhealthy unless it's a Hawaii or excuse me a Fiji GPU which like r9 390 or ninety to ninety X that type deal so unless it's Fiji it shouldn't get above 85 I would say okay okay and what about temperature wise on the horizon are 1700 rising any CPU shouldn't get above 80 I would say same thing around mid 80s like if you're getting close to water boiling temperature then it's too hot and what will happen is the CPU will throttle itself you'll know when you get too hot your CP will throttle or in some cases with rise and the peace feel completely shut off so okay that's pretty much what I've thought I've just been always afraid to push it because I've always stuck like 65 70 something safe temperatures there sorry man we gotta go we gotta move on to other people but I appreciate it thank you guys oh man thing is he already what about Aaron Montu whatever Aaron whose last name looks like postman long once twice sold done alright see you later buddy Andrey's gosh man alright the guy that I just I muted oh I can't hear me ah this is the only question I have how order ISP monopolies in the US because I'm not Canadian or American and from a third-world country in South America why are there monopolies like in terms of highest peace how are they able to get that construction laws permits the fact that the FCC actually allows them to be monopolies but they regulate pricing on utilities yes but like people are not willing to pay well not for the initial but for the service afterward to get that infrastructure from that company in the first place what do you mean for example here we most buildings they are not individual houses we there's compounds right and they're administered by a single person they're like apartment buildings but spread out right and those get offers from the ISPs to build infrastructure in those buildings - so - people yeah there's like five different companies in the buildings I live in how does the US don't have that they have more money do you have more spending power yeah on a micro-level the US does that with apartment complexes but the difference is to keep construction costs low I mean you know if we wanted to bring in Comcast and say three other cable companies that's three or four different runs inside the building right to get that cable to differ but what they do is they just have you know also the entire apartment complex - Comcast right so if you want internet you're gonna buy it from Comcast if you want TV you're gonna buy it from Comcast if you don't or say you wanted Wow or you wanted Cox or Mediacom or any of the other ones you could call them and ask them but they're just not going to be able to do it because the apartment complex is not going to give them you know the the authority or whatever to actually go in there and do it that's so sketchy yep money talks man yep all right okay Thank You Man all right that's not even a word so I can't be yelled at for not pronouncing that what's up last name clan with rising bosses of epicness I can read that one what's up dude oh that's why your audios trash in a t-rex costume that's alright what is pretty trash you back oh wow thanks that's alright they say the same all right quick question my favorite build yeah I like the Andromeda I really like the Andromeda that was a really fun build I think it looked really good some just mean it like the game though right no hate again go man three costumes do it yeah alright that was interesting what's India with octane gamer what's up dude hey hear me well yeah okay yep sup okay one question I have a cool HD 1750 that goes up to 90 as really hot yeah sure I had several pods or however they stood cooler okay repeat that little slower cuz the audio is kind of trashy I was a I'll put my mouse Kosan like my HD 7850 goes up to 90 yeah should I replace type of thermal heads or should I replace the cooler have you already replaced the the the the thermal paste yeah I did they did it yeah I would do that first we didn't worry about your about your cool or whatever I would swap the thermal paste first did you probably some really terrible caramel pay they rotted over the past five years that you've that it's been in existence so that would be my first thing you any pitcher is a bit high though okay again just swap your thermal paste dude that's what I would do okay okay oh thank you though all right that worked well so that was interesting see T Rexes um Jehovah's Witness is man you never know what's gonna happen oh it was lovely well for those who are still around we appreciated the 300 or so who who stuck around I think we peaked at like five 2530 which was pretty sweet I was a really nice wall to do some things extra to keep them around next time maybe have some actual topics to discuss instead of just like improving which is my what's up 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